The Cult of Calvinism and its Uninspired Men vs the Bible
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- As a follow up to my video last week about 6 Reasons Calvinism is a Cult, this video explains why Calvinism has a false gospel when we look closely at their TULIP theology and I illustrate how Charles Spurgeon and their "giants of the faith" who popularized Calvinism and defended its theology fed this arrogant cult-like view of its supposed superiority and exclusivity as having a monopoly on Biblical truth but they rejected crystal clear Scripture. I also show how Calvinism cannot be reconciled with 1 John 3:23,24 and the commandment of God to believe in Jesus Christ.
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Calvinist seem to love saying, Jesus was a failure if he didn't save everyone. That's the same old humdrum as usual. Jesus was 100% a success at saving whosoever will. It would appear that calvinism itself limits Christ's atonement.
Why don't the jews believe?
Who don't the j-ws believe?
When they say that tell them they’re too man-focused. Jesus died to satisfy 100% of God’s requirement of justice for sins, and he accomplished that 100%. God was 100% satisfied.
@@TheRomans9Guy why aren't the jews saved then?
@@fourthplateau944 Some do believe, the ones that don't believe is for the same reason as the Gentile, they loved the darkness rather than the light.
You’re misquoting and misrepresenting what Spurgeon said. Here’s the full quote since you cherry picked the part that would make it easier for you to misrepresent him:
I have my own opinion that there is no such thing as preaching Christ and Him crucified, unless we preach what nowadays is called Calvinism. It is a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else. I do not believe we can preach the gospel if we do not preach justification by faith without works; nor unless we preach the sovereignty of God in His dispensation of grace; nor unless we exalt the electing unchangeable eternal, immutable, conquering love of Jehovah; nor do I think we can preach the gospel unless we base it upon the special and particular redemption of His elect and chosen people which Christ wrought out upon the cross. (Charles Spurgeon, The New Park Street Pulpit, Vol. 1, 1856).
Praying the Lord rebukes you and leads you in repentance from tearing down other believers publicly and seeking to cause division. May the Lord bring about unity in His body, the church, for the glory of His name and the good of His people.
Calvinists made that image and quote, not me. The full quote is just as bad and does not contradict the portion of the quote I showed, which I did not create or shorten myself but I took from posts Calvinists made.
@@faithonfireministries it absolutely contradicts what you were getting at. Spurgeon clearly says Calvinism is merely a nickname for the doctrines we find in scripture. You didn’t represent him as saying that. You’re just doubling down on your folly.
It is the folly of Calvinists who promote Spurgeon and their false theology that way, as the only valid one. Take up your argument with the Calvinists who spread that Spurgeon quote around so often. You say it is taken out of context, so that means it is taken out of context by Calvinists, and I just refuted their claim so you should be happy, because you are refuting the claims of Calvinists just like me, but you are foolishly misdirecting your rebuke to me instead of them whom you clearly have issue with.
@@faithonfireministries wrong again. Calvinists use the quote to promote what Spurgeon preached as a whole as well as to honor who he was. You’re using it to reinforce your misguided views which are to tear down what Spurgeon (and as represented in this quote as a whole) what the scriptures teach. Cherry picking a part of a quote because it makes it easy for you to demonize a person or group of people is cowardly. Everything Spurgeon says in that quote is exactly what scripture teaches. Calvinism is merely a nickname. Your entire “ministry” seeks to tear down an entire group of Christian’s that you don’t agree with. And in order to do that, you frequently misrepresent them and their views in order to satisfy your own lusts for controversy.
Oh, as I suspected. When Calvinists post that same image and Spurgeon quote to claim the Gospel is exclusively found in Calvinism, you are perfectly okay with that, but when I post the same image and explain it the same way, but to refute it, I am spreading misinformation and taking the quote out of context. You are two faced and not to be trusted.
You're doing a great job on the false teaching of Calvinism. The LORD bless you and keep you.
Thanks very much! God bless you!
You’re doing a great job wrongly dividing the word of truth. Please stop.
@@davidbradsher8460 with all due respect to all who believe in the Calvinist theology, Why? I'm not a novice in the Word of the LORD, and I have not studied the Scriptures pertaining to Calvinism. I heard John Piper talk about it over the years he's a leading proponent of Calvinism and I've heard Leighton Flowers channel, he openly rejects the teaching along with this channel. Just listening to Piper try to explain will give you a headache, secondly because we (humanity) are so prideful and sinful in my opinion Calvinism could easily deceive someone and cause them to be self deceived in my opinion. I mean you're testifying to someone about the loving kindness of God and ultimately you end up telling them that Oh, by the way Jesus may not have died for you, you had to be predestinated (preselected) from the beginning. I'd walk away asking myself wow am I going to go to eternal hell because I'm not predestinated? That would be hard to endure for the rest of one's natural life wondering if they were chosen? Wow! Many people already hate God, if they didn't beforehand they may after listening to that teaching; leaving them in serious fear of the eternal destination. Man the Calvinist teaching breaks my heart.
@@faithonfireministries
Isn't calling Calvinism a "cult"... projecting onto believers in Calvinistic theology... the errors of what YOU believe..?..
you see it works both ways....
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being a Calvinist... and having been one before I Even knew what the Calvinistic theology was... I have Yet to see where any parts of Calvinism disagree with what the bible teaches..
I was never taught Calvinism... nor did I read anything from John Calvin before hand...... I just "stumbled".. onto what I believe by reading and studying the bible... then one day.. I ran into some of what John Calvin taught.. and I said to myself..."Oh ... so THAT is what they call it"... here all along... I thought that the Holy Spirit was leading me into a new truth and opening My eyes alone to see the wonders of God...
I was surprised to discover that 400 years ago some person by the name of John Calvin already had this mapped out...
the neat thing about all of this is... I was finding out things.. in God's word.. and then I realized by God pointing me to Calvinism theology.. that
God's plan was at work... I am in awe of how God works..
Imagine... showing me His truths... and THEN finding there is a name for this...
what I cannot understand.. is why God hasn't opened up MORE people's eyes to the truth...
perhaps John Calvin.. IS correct.. in his views of unconditional election...?
I came across a solid refutation of limited atonement today in one of Sam Shamoun's videos. At the Last Supper, Jesus looked at Judas Iscariot and said: "This is my body broken for you. This is my blood shed for you."
Sam Shamoun has so much truth yet he's completely wrong on the gospel message.
Sadly 😔.
I used this verse to refute a Calvinist.
He changed the text, claiming Jesus meant his blood was shed "for you all that are mine."
@@primeobjective5469. Exactly, of course he twisted n added to scripture because they don't have any respect for anything it says that refutes them
@@CecilSpurlockJr. Listen to your pride. Calvinists don't talk this way about you.
Do you believe in the age of accountability?
I’m pretty comfortably and confidently Reformed, and I was interested in hearing an alternate perspective, but man starting off the video explaining that it is a false gospel cult comparable to JW and Mormonism is actually insane. Sorry but please you need to remove your biases
I have lots of prior videos explaining why Calvinism / Reformed Theology is unbiblical and explaining why it is has a false gospel of election (they teach that everyone who is elect is universally going to be saved and go to heaven no matter what on the basis of their election unto salvation alone). And in those videos I don't even mention cults. However this is an important topic as well, to recognize that if it acts like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is a duck.
Reformed churches do have a lot in common with what those other false religions that even they (Calvinists) would consider to be cults like JWs and Mormons who attempt to recruit Christians into their false belief systems.
In my last video I explained 6 reasons why Calvinism is a cult. If you are truly interested in an alternate view (the Biblical view) then put your own biases aside and go watch it. Other Christian denomination do not act like Calvinists do, and the hundreds of comments on the video confirm everything I said. Many people have noticed these traits of Calvinist churches. The Calvinists who tried their level best to discredit me or my message in the comments only ended up unwittingly confirming the points I made in the video by their own foolish cult-like statements.
@@faithonfireministries And all of your "reasons" are straw men arguments.
@@faithonfireministries Saying that Calvinism has a 'false gospel of election' is to commit a categorical error. As far as I know, according to scripture, a false gospel is a 'gospel' that teaches that a person must rely on something besides believing in Christ and His atoning work (and all that implies) for salvation. If you can back up your assertion, with scripture, that election is a form of false gospel, I'll consider it.
Thank you for always sticking with the word of God and not with deceitful men. thank you for all the work you’ve done whilst always giving glory to the lord God.
John Calvin followed the word of God and not the deceit of man.
Thank you for speaking out on this!
I left a church a few years ago because I rebuked the pastor who was trying to weave Calvinism into the gospel. I explained to him just how corrupt this reformed view is and how it actually slanders God good character.
Coming from a family of Jehovahs Witnesses I have a pretty good (cult meter) you are right to say Calvinism is a cult. Keep up the good fight for the true gospel brothers and sisters!
God Bless!😁
My Pastor quotes Ephesians 2: 8, 9, then he always says that faith is a gift from God.
That's weaving Calvinism into the gospel message.
I said that is only partially true.
God in fact draws all men unto Him and He gives a measure of faith to *every man* , it's then up to us to decide where to place our faith.
God certainly doesn't pick and choose to save some and damn others.
@@colonalklink14 Faith is a gift: Many examples of this in scripture.
1. Ephesians 2:8-9 - "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." This verse emphasizes that faith is not something we generate on our own; it is given to us by God as part of His grace.
2. Philippians 1:29 - "For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake." Here, the ability to believe (have faith) is described as something that has been granted, or given, by God.
3. Romans 10:17, which says, "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
This verse highlights the process by which faith is developed in an individual. It emphasizes that faith arises when a person hears the message of the Gospel-the Word of God. The act of hearing the Word of God, whether through preaching, reading Scripture, or other forms of communication, is what sparks and nourishes faith in a person's heart.
This verse complements the idea that faith is a gift from God. While God is the one who grants faith, the means by which He often does so is through the proclamation of His Word. When people are exposed to the message of the Gospel, the Holy Spirit works in their hearts to bring about faith. So, faith comes both as a gift from God and as a response to hearing His Word.
The real slander to God is saying He can't save you without your choice. If you choose God, sinners choose Hell. Does it make you feel better that people choose eternal damnation? Does it help you sleep thinking you're better than others because you chose right?
@@fourthplateau944 Your false god is the author, perfector, and finisher of sin.
"Whosoever will let him take of the waters of life freely."
"God is not willing that any should perish but that all may come to repentance."
@@colonalklink14 Not what is taught.
I. God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass, (Eph 1:11; Rom 11:33; Hbr 6:17; Rom 9:15; Rom 9:18): yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, (Jam 1:13; Jam 1:17; 1Jo 1:5); nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established, (Act 2:23; Mat 17:12; Act 4:27-28; Jhn 19:11; Pro 16:33).
Keep going, brother! Don’t give up! I think you are fighting against one of the most wicked lies ever given to mankind! The gnostic, doctrine of Augustine, and John Calvin, and now, John Piper, is a slimy attempt at attacking God‘s character! My God and my father are good All the time!
And the sad truth is that the majority of people in Christian church pews have zero clue on Calvinism and it’s upside down theology.
Problem started with the satanic cult of sola scriptura a man made tradition invented by a devil possessed man and Calvinism is just a part of it.
How is God’s character attacked?
@@justsomeguy9192-hx7jv these problems started ever since the satanic cult of sola scriptura a man made tradition invented by a devil possessed man was introduced just five hundred years ago and Calvinism is just a part of it
@@justsomeguy9192-hx7jvThis will require taking off your cult lenses. Hopefully you haven’t been fully given over to
Your deception.
Agreed (believe so simple), i have actually read someone comment from a calvinist claiming faith is an irresistible gift. Hmm so i guess they think a gift needs to be irresistibly received for God to get the glory, which leads down a further rabbit whole. The way you plainly point this system out is great.. What i always find odd are those who want to argue me into calvinism "as if" my rejection of this system wasn't in eternity past foreordained in their perspective of who God is. Nah, humanity never lost their "ability" to choose or reject Him
The most dangerous aspect of calvinism to me is that they have all the same words, but not the same meanings, so often it takes time to see through where their trust lies.
I'm still laughing at the claim that God never intervenes. I serve a God who intervenes. So, they must serve a different God.
No one said God never intervenes. The claim by non calvinists, is that God is intervening because he is reacting to events as He learns them. God is eternal and not held to a temporal existence. He knows all from beginning to end.
I am still laughing at the fools who try to sound smart but keep making really dumb comments.
@@davevandervelde4799 I have the two videos where it is said "God never intervenes." I've noticed that people like to argue without knowing what they are talking about.
@@hotopolis Temporally or eternally? In other words, mans view or Gods view? You need to know the difference.
@@davevandervelde4799 I am not laughing at those who call fools anybody who doesn't agree with them when they come up with such ridiculous statements about what those they don't agree with believe
Not dumb
Just ignorant
@@davevandervelde4799I think you need to check all the alternatives to Calvinism before speaking, and especially calling others ignorant.
What you said here is similar to saying "all non-Cessationists have Kenneth Copeland as their pope." Or that all non-whites are black.
Reminds me of the good-ol days when all non-Calvinists were Arminians (something to which some in your camp hold to to this day).
So please direct some of that laugh at yourself and relax. You are the only 100% ignorant in here, sadly.
Idol Killer and Leighton Flowers, the big bad wolves that Calvinists check under their bed for certainly don't view this topic the same, brother.
Those that have been in a cult like myself for 10 yrs. Can see the cult collectivism of Calvinism……I was in it for 3 yrs and began to see the heresy of it as well as the Holy Spirit leading me out of that false doctrinal system…..
Every cult will state they have cornered the market of the gospel as well as the arrogance of cults as well…..
Yes. Question their doctrine with a Calvinist leader and watch what happens. Worse yet, leave their church and most will do the shun show typical of majority of cults.
@Jesusisking235 the Bible literally tells you to shun people in 1 Corinthians 5
@@fourthplateau944 So shun a born-again believer who leaves a Calvinist Church to go to another church? So if you don't stay in the Calvinist clan you are to be shunned because you go elsewhere? Wow.
@Jesusisking235 thats not what I said. You use strawman yet again. The bible says shunning is acceptable and therefore it's not just the practice of cults.
And yet, here you are listening to a man that claims to have a monopoly on the truth.
Any theological doctrine that people have to be dragged into kicking and screaming, or by stealth, is not of God.
Exactly!
Problem is with the satanic cult of sola scriptura a man made tradition invented by a devil possessed man and Calvin was just a part of it
People aren't dragged kicking and screaming? Your belief that people HAVE TO CHOOSE THEMSELVES is dragging them kicking and screaming. You tell them: "better make the right choice or you will burn forever!" Whatever helps you sleep at night ig
@@fourthplateau944 the root cause of these problems are with the satanic cult of sola scriptura a man made tradition invented by a devil possessed man and Calvin was just a part of it. One thing is very clear that sola scriptura is neither biblical nor historical nor logical nor even practical, right from the beginning it always ended up with sola Martin sola Calvin sola Zwingli sola Smythe sola Ellen sola Wesley sola Knox sola Russell on and on and on and on and on and after five centuries by now around fifty thousand sola idiots like McArthur Benny Copeland Todd Crepo Osteen Hagee etc all are contradicting each other all the time bringing chaotic anarchism into Christianity
@fourthplateau944 Your calvinist non elect are dragged to hell - Predestined since birth.
Thank you for your videos! We have come out of several false teachings already including word of faith and now we found ourselves at a reformed church we didn’t realize. We are so discouraged and don’t know what to do now. We live in West MI where it’s so full of reformed theology. Please pray for us!
Happened to us as well. Went to around 9 different churches until we found a good fit. Take your time and learn along the church seeking journey.
The only true worship I enjoyed over the past five decades was in ongoing home gatherings with a few fellow Believers. "Churches" are businesses, partnered with the govt, and staffed by cookie cutter seminary graduates of whom many are unsaved hirelings. I would urge you to pray to find a few Believers who are also disenchanted, and meet together - where two or three are gathered in His name, He'll be in your midst.
Stay at home and love God,,peace will rule your heart,
@@Jesusisking235
@@Krista1979 providence has placed you there. Rejoice.
Like all cults, they view the Bible through the lens of their beliefs instead of allowing the Bible to judge their beliefs. Great Channel, keep up the good work.
Yes, well said. God bless you!
Thank you for saying not everyone in cults is not a Christian. After I spoke with Christian leaders from my town back in 1999, it was ONLY the Mormons who told me of repentance and the atonement of Jesus Christ on the cross. God used that! Over the past 25yrs I have went from mormonism to calvinism to saved by grace through faith. Praise God we don't have to have it all figured out for the Holy Spirit to regenerate us!!
Calvinism's faulty claim of No Free Will for humanity is nothing more than the Enemy's projection of his own condition unto humanity. The Devil and his minions made their choice and forfeited any other choice for themselves. For them no other choice is left open, nor is there the choice to return or receive redemption. Christ did not die for them. He only died for fallen humanity.The Devil and his cohorts stand condemned already. In stark contrast to the Enemy, humans have that choice available to exercise their Free Will and to return of their own accord to Christ and thus be saved. Redemption is still open for humans. It is no longer open for the Enemy. This infuriates the Enemy and so the ridiculous narcissistic gaslighting attempt to heap his own lost condition (one of total depravity, no redemption , no more choice to return and only ever deeper depravity until the Judgement comes) onto humanity. He is performing a vile and twisted switcheroo in the minds of those who let themselves be deceived by the evil one's projection of his own condition onto humans.
Yes, very well explained. God bless you.
Name calling and too much psychological terms. Just tell me the box you want to put me in and I will happily do it just to keep you from your hopping skipping word salad.
ALL SUNgodday Church realm is a Papal design. NO MATTER how hard you try to “escape the satanic calvinISM lutheran ISM poisons, it STILL exists in ALL your SUN day church realm sects, , all 45,000 of them. They are exclusively papal . and Papal products are satanic srart to finish. This guy is wallowing in it and nobody can tell him anything about it. He’s a proponent of Manichaeism theology to a large degree!
IF you're in a SUNday or SUNworship papal church entity, you're STILL in the Augustinian false gospel.
NONE of the Apostles or Christ violated the Torah scripture principles, this channel does front to back. And all the cults I listed.
And his #1 excuse LIE is it's NOT a salvation issue. The second he sat\ys that demonic rationale you know ‘WHOM’
the spirit that drives his carnal mind biblical Facade TY channel.
It ALL started with simple innocent small LIES didn’t it?
DID God really Say” Oh gee that OLD obsoleted Torah again..
Satan played the reverse card but God reversed it so it could not be undone. The first shall be last and the last first. The key of David locks so no man can open and opens so no man can lock.
another winner !!!! 9:50 BINGO !! Here's the quote from R.C. Sproul on salvation in Calvinism... very telling.
Dr. Sproul was asked to respond to the polemic accusation that salvation under Calvinism is no more than 'spiritual rape'. He responded that he did not appreciate the term... but he could not dispute the sentiment. Sproul wrote; "I personally do not like the term “rape” for the Reformed position concerning regeneration (i.e being born again) prior to belief. Yet with that said, I think I understand why non-Reformed folk invoke the term, for despite protestations, when one breaks down Reformed soteriology, one is left with the fact that regeneration occurs against the will of the unregenerate sinner-the sinner has NO CHOICE in the matter; as such, there is some truth to the claim that it is “a forced love”." SO... RAPE... BECOMES... 'FORCED LOVE'🤔😎...Try telling that to a victim some time.
Dr. Sproul agrees with it but like to say it 'nicer'.😎 Which is typical of Calvinists when confronted with their own doctrine in 'plain' terms'.
"Forced Love" is NOT love. And our Heavenly Father, who is the very personification of 'Love', (a noun), would know the difference! It would not be satisfactory because it is no more than deception. Calvin also explained apostasy as God imposing Evanescent (false) Grace/faith on some which is later withdrawn that their eternal punishment be even greater.... because God never really loved them anyway. If "Total Depravity" is true there is no other way to explain a former believer who denies their faith later.... god 'did it'. They can't trust their 'faith' anymore than the God they think gave it to them! These descriptions of God are unavoidable in Calvinism and they are diametrically opposed to the nature of our Heavenly Father as Jesus portrayed him and as Paul describes him in 1 Cor. 13.
Calvinists have God slipping man a 'mickey' to make him think and act 'as if' he loves God because he cannot risk the rejection of a man who might freely refuse him.
"Love does not insist on its own way."
-1 Cor. 13:5
Calvinisms doctrine of Irreisisble Grace is already refuted.
@@primeobjective5469 🎯👍I always like reading that chapter and replacing Love with God. It reads great ...undoes Calvinism's view of God
excellently!
Calvinism is a form of gnostic heresy.
100% correct.
Not true. Slandering people is not love.
@@fourthplateau944reread" 1st Timothy 4v6..
WARNING is LOVE!!!!
@johnmorgan7947 I agree that warning is love. What the people in these comments have is pure hatred, though. To hate your brother is murder, and many people here are full of hate because someone thinks differently. Explain how calvinism is gnosticism please.
Calvinism claims to have a deeper knowledge of scripture that is not biblical. That is gnostic. Look it up.
We preach Christ and Him crucified. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
I am a Calvinist
This is so true about what you said in your intro. Just because there are Christians in these "Denominations"/"Cults" doesn't necessarily mean that they are not "real" Christians. I personally used to be a part of a very Legalistic church and God miraculously shook that church toward the truth of Grace. My wife and I have since moved on toward Grace and Kingdom of God preachers and teachers. Ironically though, God once corrected me on this very thing when I heard a Catholic declaring how much he loved serving Christ and in my heart I said, "yeah but you're a Catholic, you're not a 'real' Christian" and immediately I heard God speak to me in my heart and say, "Don't LIMIT who my children are!" I said I was sorry for saying what I said but I never forgot what God said and even what my own experience taught me. God knows who His kids are and that's why I believe channels like this are so important. Tell His kids the truth in love and allow the Holy Spirit to do the rest. Keep going Faith on Fire and just keep allowing the Holy Spirit lead you.
I follow the doctrines of grace because after years of studying the Bible and different theology, reformed theology makes most sense to me of who God is.
On a completely personal level I can testify that I came to faith by a working of the Holy Spirit. I hated God and had no time at all for Jesus, then one day the Lord came for me in a profound way. I can testify His grace is truly irresistible as I went pretty much kicking and screaming into repentance. When I saw my sin and saw how it offended God I repented on the spot. It was all of God and nothing of me.
Can I ask a question? If Calvinism is a cult then does this charge stand for those who hold an Arminian position or molonist stand point? What about new earthers over old earth creationists? What about cessationists or continuationists? Surely none of the above are a cult but a theological stand point?
By the way I started out in a Pentecostal church but left those circles as reformed theology made more sense to me.
Thank you so much for keeping your foot on their neck. There are so many Calvinist slyly tearing down others on YT while ironically being 100% false themselves.
I know the Calvinist TULIP. Do you know the Arminian DAISY? He loves me, He loves me not, He love me, He loves me not......
There was a woman in my church who suddenly became a calvinist. She started to convert people in the church the way they do. She also tried to convert me too during a time I challenged her beliefs. As spewing her false doctrines on me she suddenly became as if possessed by a demon. I was shocked and realized this is some kind of demonic deception. It's definitely not of God.
Totally agree!
YES I'd like to see the extra commentary you mentioned!
You have helped me soooo much. I didn't realize how the things that Calvinists say & teach were the reason I had such a fatalistic (& burdensome) effect in my life. God bless you for teaching the real word of God!!
Calvinists are like JW. They have a,distorted chapter and verse reply for everything. ESV bible (Calvinist bible) have changed words.
Ps. They looking for an argument because thats how they bend your mind.
Its horrible.
Yes, exactly. Well said.
For the Calvinist, how can there be sin when EVERYTHING that happens is caused by God? If EVERYTHING happens according to God's will and His will is ALWAYS being done, there can't be sin unless God is sinning. I am NOT saying God is a sinner, but the Calvinist by implication, is.
@@doulos9828My problem is with hyper Calvinists like James White who says God causes or determines EVERYTHING. He once said if a man brutally rapes a young girl, God caused it. Otherwise, it is just a meaningless random act. SORRY, the God of the Bible who "is love" did not cause that brutal rape. Joshua 24:15 says, "CHOOSE you this day whom you will serve." Revelation says, "WHOSOEVER will, May...drink freely of the waters of life." God says, 'I have put before you life and death, CHOOSE life " I could go on and on. God CLEARLY, calls us to choose right from wrong, light from dark, life over death and ultimately He calls us to CHOOSE Christ. Notice Jesus says, No one can come to me unless the Father DRAWS him." It does NOT say, "...unless the Father causes, determines, or forces him."
@@MB777-qr2xvGod has determined the beginning and the end. God sees and knows everything from past present and future. Omniscience. He is outside of time. Our days are numbered.
@@abuelb God does indeed know everything, but HE says this in Jeremiah 19:5, "...they have also built the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings to Baal, which I DID NOT COMMAND or speak, nor did it come into My mind."
So, while He certainly KNOWS everything, He Himself in the above Jeremiah 19:5 says He does NOT determine everything.
Every cult base their false teaching on higher knowledge and when someone tells the cult that they are wrong the answer allways is the same that you do not understand sophisticated teaching of theirs and have no secret knowledge of things but bible sats that His doctrine is simple.Psalm 119:130 - Bible Gateway
Psalm119.130
The opening up of Your Word gives light. It gives understanding to the child-like. The teaching of your word gives light, so even the simple can understand.
Wonderful Bible verse. Thanks for sharing. God bless you!
Thank you, Yes, I'm so interested in your Genesis 1 video and a part 2 on this one.
Calvinists twist simple Bible verses around to fit their twisted thoughts and feelings.
As in Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Calvinists believe that the gift of God is Faith and is given to them by the Holy Spirit. 😮
As you said.
I am going through all of your videos and I really appreciate all your hard work and especially for presenting the true and clear Gospel of Jesus Christ unto Salvation.
Thank you 💕
Appreciate your effort to explain something that has been troubling me of late.
Why does Christianity have multiple "Systematic Theologies"?
Looking forward to more of your thoughts.
Brian: *Breathes*
Calvinists in his comments section: Heresy!!
😂😂😂
Christ truth vs false Calvinism
There are two human choices involved when Jesus said: "The love of money is the root of all evil" he already knew that Judas as the treasurer loved money more than he loved Him." This shows us CHOICE in at least two ways: 1. ROOT of all evil means it is something that GROWS, evil is something that is harbored and nurtured in someone's heart.And it grows from a tender sprout that could be discarded to a small plant that could still be taken out to finally the full grown entrenched plant. As humans we can choose to let evil overgrow us and choke off the good fruit. It illustrates the perpetual CHOICE humans have in letting the root grow or pulling it out. 2nd Choice: Finally, even if evil has overtaken a human, there remains still the choice: that of asking Christ to forgive us in His Grace (as Peter did after he denied Christ) or the choice that Judas made, to believe only in himself and his own failings rather than look at Jesus and His greater Grace.
This is a great point and reminds me of two verses in Scripture, so thank you.🌻
Hebrews 12:15 NKJV - looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled;
2 Corinthians 7:10 NIV - Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.
Our human choices align with God's predetermined plan.
Otherwise, how can he be sovereign?
@ryleighloughty3307 Indeed He is sovereign however sovereignty does not mean meticulous devine control as in calvinism. Those who have excepted the "free gift" of His mercy and grace 👉through faith👈 are now predestined ie. in Him Jesus is the key not Calvin nor the doctrines of grace. Catholics think Peter holds the keys, but he doesn't he was just a man God chose for a service, because he was listening and learning from the Father, but most of the religious Pharisees didn't recognize Him because they weren't. No secret now Jesus has risen and He is alive.
@@reg7916
Does God absolutely control what is happening in the universe now?
Does he absolutely know what will happen in the universe in the future?
@ryleighloughty3307 Sovereignty in Calvinism is set without genuine choice they have their own form of “free will” nothing happens unless every dust mite is controlled with in an infinite Creators mind in Calvinism i do not see nor trust this definition of sovereignty.. if I did then I would trust everything within His creation that appears to be granted (freedom) is not and it is unable to do anything other than what he/she was decreed to do.. so compatiblistic freedom literally does NOT exist, because they are bound to do what they were created to do... And I find this view of God to be a very narrow small minded view of who He is... simply put genuine love and any true relationship with meaning requires a choice. I do not believe I will wake up one day and poof be enlightened to trust this man centered esoteric baggage.. I simply see it as Augustine's slide back into gnostic practices and others following.
Colossians 2:10 NKJV - and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
Hi,
Could you also do a video on the “Calvinist discernment club”. Yeah, they have so much “discernment”, that they can’t even recognize the heresy they teach.
Please pray for my restoration I do have actual spiritual gifts from God
Romans 11:29 says, “For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.” “Without repentance” means that God won't change His mind about what He has called you to do. If God has called you, that calling is still there, whether or not you have obeyed.
Be encouraged! Many of us with children have been convinced to give gifts which we later regret..... God NEVER draws back from what he has given to his children.
In 2 Timothy 1:6 Paul says, "Therefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God which is in thee through the putting on of my hands". In this verse, the apostle Paul is telling Timothy to develop his own spiritual gifts and faith, even though he received them from others. The Greek word translated as "stir up" in this verse means to kindle a fire, similar to using bellows. The idea is that Timothy should keep his spiritual gift from growing cold and instead "stir it up" to keep it burning brightly.
Phil 1:6 "Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ"
God is Faithful.
Blessings and prayers .
I’m sure you do… but you are not a prophet, Ray.
I adore the God Inspired vs. Not Inspired chart!! I'm going to type it up in big letters and hang it on the wall.
Thanks! I only wish I had thought of making that chart years ago. Oh well, but for this video it took me 5 seconds to think of it and about 5 minutes on the computer to make it. And yet, its so profound. This is what it boils down to when professing Christians choose who to believe, writers of Scripture inspired by God or writers of theology that were not inspired by God and wrote zero Scripture.
I didn't mention it... saving it for another video, but that uninspired list of people are the "Yea, hath God said..." bunch. Do you know what I am talking about from Genesis 3? Calvinists say, "Yea, hath God said for God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life? No, God really meant He so loved the elect only.
That illustration between Scripture and what Calvinists teach can be repeated over and over again in the Bible.
@@faithonfireministries You nailed it with that chart!
Thank you Brian! You always are so encouraging. Love the way you explain things in a way that I wish I could. I learn so much from you. Please keep the videos coming. I pray God gives you wisdom and courage to ignore and answer the 'trolls'. God bless you.
You are very kind and I appreciated the encouraging words. Thanks! God bless you!
I definitely agree with you that it is a cult. In my experience though, I think for the most part your average Johnny or Sally PewSitter who calls themself "Reformed" or who repeats Calvinistic phrases doesn't really even understand what they're saying. I think most of them don't actually realize what Calvinism is or it's repercussions. I think the lesson is, we really need to be able to analyze/discern what we're being taught, and know our Bible well enough that we can do so. Thanks for the video!
Bingo! Thanks. well said. God bless you!
"Arrogant and cult-like view... superiority...exclusivity... rejected crystal clear scripture."
Respectfully, sir, are your accusations a confession of who you are?
No, they are about Calvinists. I thought I made that clear.
@@faithonfireministries
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks." - Gertrude (Hamlet-1600).
I'm sorry but Hamlet isn't Scripture. This is better, from the Book of Jude: "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."
@@faithonfireministries
When a purported Christian casts vitriolic aspersions on fellow Christians, should I not question their motivation?
Correcting bad theology and contending for Biblical truth is not vitriolic at all. It is the loving thing to do so others are warned about the dangers of that cult and don't join it. It is also loving to share this with even those in the cult in order that perhaps some of them will recognize their plight and return to the correct faith from Scripture. That does result in some of them getting triggered and upset because the truth of the Bible offends them. They want to follow the words of men, not the Word of God. We can go round and round over this all you'd like but I don't think we are going to get anywhere. Let's agree on this. I will keep preaching from the Bible and pointing out the false theology of Calvinism and you can continue to get upset about it and make baseless accusations against me as a form of defense.
Without free will you cannot love God, if Calvin-ism is true but one really loves God as God is just forcing you to love Him.
2 Timothy 2:12]
IF we endure,
we will also reign with him.
IF we disown him,
he will also disown us;
IF we deny Him he will deny us.
IF you walk away from the Savior rejecting Him you are damned.
He will renounce you. Matthew 10:33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
2 Timothy 2:13
IF we are faithless,
he remains faithful,
for he cannot disown himself. It does not mean He will remain faithful to you otherwise deny in v-12 would mean nothing. IF you are faithless and throw it away, you're not a believer. He is faithful to Himself.The way he vindicated Himself is by throwing you out. God values His trustworthiness and IF you decide I'm going to go my own way to a life of sin you no longer trust in Him.
He's faithful to the worth of His name.The way God vindicates His trustworthiness to those who reject it, its called hell.
Don't fool yourself with your unbelief by thinking God's still faithful to me He is faithful He cannot deny Himself,that's who He is faithful to.
IF you hold to Jesus saying you are trustworthy you are everything to me, acknowledge you're just a hopeless sinner He cannot deny you. Your security is as firm as His allegiance is to His name.
In other words, you are relying on your performance and not his.
What Bible version is that. My KJV says something quite different which in that passage is distinguishing those who never believed vs those who have believed and become made new in Christ.
@faithonfireministries
Did you not say IF we become faithless He is still faithful to us?
2 Timothy 2:13 kj
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Paul isn't saying IF you deny Him He will remain faithful to you.
He doesn't say Christ will remain faithful to you He cannot deny Himself, that's who He is faithful to.
Verse 12 says IF we deny Him He will deny us.
It's very clear
@@EugeneHolley-rc6ry
Do you consider it works to remain faithful to Christ and not deny Him?
That's what you are saying.
@@2Chronicles714_ The only thing I have seen in the scripture as to why faith is not considered a work is because it comes to us through the hearing of the word of God, it comes through the preaching of the gospel that we are to believe in order to receive the gift of God, eternal life. When it comes to 2 Timothy 2:12 it must be in the context it was written, look at the chapter from the beginning he is talking about being a good soldier of Jesus Christ, and not being entangled with the affairs of this life, and bringing the elect, which are his Jewish brothers in the flesh to salvation and there are people like Hymenaeus and Philetus trying to overthrow their faith. Faith is what we are dealt by God through his word in order to receive his grace, or as it says in Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace: to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed. This is the way it is written in Eph 2:8 We are saved by grace through faith, everything from God comes through faith, Romans 14:23 says whatever is not of faith is sin.
I am a Calvinist and honestly you misunderstand our belief and therefore can't explain what it is. No Calvinist believes it because Calvin taught it. We believe it because it is taught in scripture.
I am afraid you are not aware you have Calvins glasses on when you read the bible.
Religious lie is one of the hardest one to become free from. But Jesus can and The Holy Spirit will help you.
@@anitassigmundsen2554 Okay. Let me ask you 4 questions
1. Do you believe in total depravity?
2. Please explain to me the meaning of John 6:37 without Calvin's glasses
3. Also John 6:44
4. Also John 10:29
1. Sitting on a deathbed with an 85 year old man, Jesus stretching his hand out for him the last time, he answered with cursing.
2. Context
3. Context
4. Context
Remember Jesus is here then, he has not died or risen yet, the Holy Spirit is not given on Pentecost to all who believe and receive. Later he prays I kept everyone you gave me, talking about his disciples@@iankip9362
If Calvin had not come up with this ridiculous heresy no one ever would read the scripture and come to that conclusion. Anyone that is a calvinist was taught that by man and not by reading the scripture Calvinism is heresy and absolutely ridiculous
@@TheHillrat4wd Hi, Augustin reached close to the same conclusions as Calvin over 1000 years before him!
Let me ask you 2 questions then
1. Do you believe in total depravity?
2. If Calvinism is false and a heresy, what is John 10:27-29 talking about?
I came to trust in Jesus and when exposed to Calvinism, it immediately seemed alien to the Christ I came to know.
I passed it up right off.
If there's anything I despise it's gatekeeping the Gospel.
And Calvinism IS a gatekeeping philosophy to the Gospel.
Calvinists consider themselves to corner the truth of Christianity. Ever learning but never able to come to the truth.
Next thing I’ll hear is Calvinists are racists. Stop with the labels.
Then you, sir, do not understand the teachings of Calvinism.
The Bible says, the believers were first called " Christian" according to the book of Acts, they weren't called Calvinist. Calvinism is a man made doctrine, because it's named after a man.
It sounds better than Church of Pagan Determinism.
Most of the New Testament was named after individuals. Are they also man-made doctrine?
A cult says we can lose our salvation and it always causes people to life in fear. Also they demand money! It is ridiculous! Leave it and find a Church who has the truth and the bible is the final authority.
OSAS is a cult of its own.
We as born again Christians can have confidence in our salvation and still believe that we can loose our salvation, like the Jews who were a branch broken off of the vine due to their unbelief, but they can be graffed back into the vine IF they continued not in unbelief.
Romans 10:8-10
New Living Translation
8 In fact, it says,
“The message is very close at hand;
it is on your lips and in your heart.”[a]
And that message is the very message about faith that we preach: 9 If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved.
If Paul was here today, I think he would say:
what is it that I hear? someone told me there are quarrels among you?
What I mean is that each one of you say "I follow Calvin",or "I follow Luther", or "I follow Augustin", or "i follow christ",
Is Christ divided?
Did Calvin die for you?
Were you baptized in the name of Luther?
I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you.
In all my years as a believer in Christ I have heard a message from a calvinist preacher or teacher on John 3
*** I have NEVER heard a message on John 3 . I often wonder if " catechisms are like other religious cults
Interestingly
There is this Gospel Jesus Preached which The Church is not Preaching.
The Gospel Jesus Preached is The Gospel of The Kingdom of God. Mark 1 vs. 14 & 15. (I am talking about Dispensationalism)
The moment Catholocism via The Reformation caused the Church to stray from The Gospel Jesus Preached, we gave birth to Philosophies of Men such as
Calvinism: Determinism and all these ISMS.
The Gospel as Proclaimed by Messiah Jesus (Mark 1 vs. 14 & 15) is that God's Spiritual Kingdom has been brought into our world by Jesus of Nazareth who is The Christ (The King of The Jews) and by extension The Lord of The World. And Messiah Jesus is inviting all humans to return to living in God's Kingdom here and now by living under the Lordship of Jesus.
I agree with You on Calvinism, It is Scriptural Non-Sense.
I advocate that you make time to understand The Gospel of The Kingdom Jesus Preached which The Apostles Preached which also Paul Preached (Acts 20 vs. 25, Acts 28 vs 31)
There is a clear difference between Preaching The Gospel of The Kingdom which Jesus preached which he commanded his disciples to Preach and Preaching That Jesus is The Christ (Messiah) which apostle Paul did quite often.
I encourage you to take time and listien to this Teaching on The Gospel Jesus Preached.
Kind Regards and Shalom!
You can make practically any doctrine from one misinterpreted verse.
Yea let me see that Genesis commentary!😂
Yes please, I would like to hear Genesis 1 used to refute calvinism. Thank you.
Okay, thanks. I'll make that video.
Looks like you got rogues attention . The pit of hell is upset at you Brian . You must be on the right track
Amen on your first point Brian, fantastic
And i didny know Mr charles Spurgeon said dat... " Cal is da Gos" i am humbled n shocked n kinda disappointed ..but..
However... i ,together with Tons of others.. i Thank God For Jesus Christ
John Wesley said that Calvinism makes God out to be worse than the devil. Notably, it's mostly because of Augustine that the doctrine of infant damnation took hold in the Church.
Very true. Thanks for sharing that.
Yes. Amen
appreciate you! keep pressing forward brother. prayers for you and your family .
Thanks so much! The prayers are very much appreciated. God bless you!
I was dead in my sin. Dead. I did not choose Him, He chose me. Therefore i have nothing to boast of in myself. If i chose Him, I could boast about my brilliance and look down on others as stupid if they don't choose God. Read Romans 9 to understand God's sovereignty. By the way, I don't follow Calvin, I follow God. Calvinism is simply an explanation of sovereignty, grace, and redemption.
I've been saying calvinism is universalism but just on a smaller scale for years as people are saved against their will in both systems .
Calvinism or reformed theology is so far removed from universalism. Let me explain to you as well as this content creator who made such a bogus statement.
Universalism, within the context of Christian doctrine, is the belief that ultimately all people will be saved and reconciled to God. This view holds that God's love and grace will eventually overcome all sin and unbelief, leading to the salvation of every human being, regardless of their faith or actions during their lifetime.
Proponents of Universalism often cite verses such as 1 Timothy 2:4 ("[God] desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth") and Romans 5:18 ("Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men") to support their view. However, traditional Christian interpretations argue that these verses should be understood in the context of the whole Bible, which includes teachings on eternal judgment and the necessity of faith in Christ.
Universalism is often criticized within mainstream Christian theology as being inconsistent with the overall biblical narrative, which includes warnings of eternal judgment and the necessity of faith and repentance. Critics argue that Universalism undermines the seriousness of sin and the need for evangelism, as it suggests that everyone will eventually be saved regardless of their response to the Gospel.
So with all that being said, Universalism is a perspective within Christian thought that offers a hopeful vision of ultimate reconciliation for all people, which Reformed Theology denies.
@PastorJeffAddison obviously you didn't pay attention to what I have stated , because calvinism and universalism share the attribute I that I've said they did .
Cecil, you are 100% right. Universalism is what Calvinists teach. They will deny this until the cows come home because they will always say the only definition of Universalism is that everybody on earth no matter what goes to heaven and nobody goes to hell. That is NOT the only definition of Universalism. It is also universalism to claim that everyone who is unconditionally elected by God will be saved and go to heaven no matter what, and that is exactly what Calvinists teach.
Do you believe that people's will should trump God's will?
@ryleighloughty3307 you're either a female , or quite young aren't you .
Isn't calling Calvinism a "cult"... projecting onto believers in Calvinistic theology... the errors of what YOU believe..?..
you see it works both ways....
Strong & solid truth Sir. Thank you! Praying for you & thankful for you. I’d love to hear your insights on Genesis 1 and how it refutes the Calvinist’s man centered and man generated summation.
Okay, thanks. A bunch of people have also responded requesting I do the Genesis 1 video so it looks like I got my next video topic. It will be out soon. God bless you!
Honest question, don't religions (like Calvinism) make repentance/salvation an act of futility to persue?
Yes, calvinism is wrong, unfortunately pentecostalism is wrong too, ive suffered great spiritual abuse under both belief systems.
I am a christian and everynight i am watching you tube videos. At least 95% are about christianity and the comments people write. I dont waste my time watching tik tok goofy videos. I do it because i thirst for knowledge and i also do try to read the bible. What i have noticed is people saying, the catholic church, protestants, churchs of christ, seventh day adventists, calvinist churches, they are all wrong. Of course all these churches think they are right, which makes everything even more confusing. I am not talking about jws or Lds churches as we know they have some wrong theology. Of they think they right too! I am not a bible scholar or expert but this is my pov. You are not going to be saved or going to hell because you go to church 1 hr a week. Going to church is like the tip of the iceberg when it comes to being a christian. The most important thing is having a relationship with god and jesus. Also to try to live a good christian life. We may end up being in a church with not so great theology but the bible says all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god. Many may disagree with me and that is ok.🙏
Free will, it's a real thing
Yep: 1:27 Imago Dei: mankind was made in God's own image! Does God have a Free Will? Yes! So either God was lying (God forbid) that He made mankind in His own image. Or God was truthful and we have Free Will as God tells us when He says we are made in his Image.
@Dr.CorneliaKratzer Good point, we have our own sovereignty and that is why the Lord always asks us to do certain things, he ASKS husbands to love their wives!
What you're overlooking is the Fall.
@robertwheeler1158 Calvinists overlooked the fall because you lot posit that your specially randomly selected elect were 'saved from the foundation of the world'
Overlooking the fall leads you to conclude that the elect DIDNT fall with Adam.
Including the fall, you would have to side with armininian loss of salvation 🫠
@@THEGOSPELISFOREVERYBODY No. You have it completely backwards. The Fall resulted in the total depravity of the entire human race and the necessity of salvation in Jesus Christ.
Calvinists try to use the Fall as an excuse to ignore this, but that just demonstrates how negligent they are of any part of Scripture other than the prooftexts they can twist to "fit" their manmade system. The Fall did not somehow remove God's image from humanity. It merely corrupted it. Otherwise God never would have said “Whoever sheds man’s blood, by man his blood shall be shed; for in the image of God He made man." (Genesis 9:6)
Note that God declared this to Noah and his family after they left the Ark, over 1,600 years after the Fall had taken place.
One aspect of what you are presenting shows the importance of knowing history.
Wow. I did not know that Spurgeon made that kind of heretical statement. I am tossing out all of his writings from my house…
You may want to consider tossing anything written by a Calvinist.
Yeah Spurgeon is often called the "Prince of Preachers" As near as I can tell that's only because he was very eloquent. What actual fruits did he produce? Of course Paul warns us against eloquence alone: "I did not come to you in eloquence of speech but in demonstration of power by the Holy Spirit.."
Which proves again that we all need to be careful about what we read and who we listen to. Deception is rampant and Satan has his minions. Best to heed Jer. 17:5…”Cursed is the man who trusts in man…”
I wish I knew the truth about Spurgeon years ago…sigh:(
John MacArthur seems to be the American hero. Every one who sides with him says he is a great speaker. Does not John teach from a Calvinistic point ?
Oh yes, MacArthur is big Calvinist. You need to watch this regarding him and stealth Calvinism: ruclips.net/video/1040ZETZFsY/видео.html
In simple words Calvinism shows God the Father as dictator who deny man's ability to choose while hiding the truth of love, mercy, grace and kind of God the Father. 😂😂😂 I am predestined to write this message 😂😂😂
Do you equate sovereignty with dictatorship?
@@ryleighloughty3307 loaded question ⁉️ sovereignty of what ⁉️ do you mean God the author of sin⁉️
@@johnsonaugustine366
Is God sovereign over the heavens and the earth and all that exists therein?
If he is perfectly sinless, can he be the author of sin?
Or, for his purposes, can he allow sin to exist?
@@ryleighloughty3307 yet again loaded ❓stop twisting words like in garden, God doesn't allow sin to exist, he allows time for mankind to repent from sin for purpose of salvation before his judgement.
@@johnsonaugustine366
If God does not allow sin to exist, why does he not eliminate it altogether?
Does God know what will happen in the future?
Please list the top 100 proof texts for free will and top 100 proof texts for Calvin'sm
No, I don't respond to challenges. If you have 100 proof texts against free will or 100 proof texts for Calvinism, then you present them.
Is there a difference between the Calvinism of 50, 100 years ago then today's New Calvinism?
Calvinism also undercuts both the role and the power of Faith. Faith would be a mute point, null and void, made impotent through Calvinism. Even the Cross would be unnecessary if Calvinism was correct, because He could just ordain His supposed 'elect' few to follow him robot-like. No, instead God has elected for each one of us to be saved. Some, by faith in the power of the Cross, accept that calling and follow Him, others reject that calling. That is why he calls us to have faith in Him. Faith is not work, Faith is surrender to God and to His good Will for us and it is developed and increases over time.
Very good! Amen!❤
I am not ashamed to admit I struggle to call calvanists brothers/sisters in Christ. I do not hold to the tulip god bit the true God of the bible. I sincerely fear for the final outcome of calvanists. Lets be honest most calvanists were not tulip god worshippers when they came to Christ. I believe in osas but if they were true believers of the true God of the bible than there is no way the holy spirit would speak to them and tell them to believe in the tulip god. Ultimately praise God what I think of calvanists doesn't matter it is all in His Almighty hand.
I didn't realize I agreed with calvinism but my first read through the bible made me see I agreed with it. I went from a vicious atheist to loving the word and worshipping God. I never even wanted that. Seems like God changed me without my will.
Just as Christians still sin after being saved though they may seriously not want to and pray over and over again that God gives them strength to overcome all sins in their life, but they still struggle. This is the reality of the flesh which won't spend even one second in heaven with our soul, spirit and new glorious heavenly body at the resurrection. So just the same as a Christian remain susceptible to sin, so does one remain susceptible to the false seductive teachings of cults that masquerade as a sect of Christianity but aren't really Christian at all. This is why I believe real Christians who believed the Gospel and received the gift of God, forgiveness of sins and eternal life, and then fall away for the lies of Calvinism or other cults still remain saved and will go to heaven. I know there are other solid Christians who will disagree with my view on that. Either way, we can agree Calvinism is dangerous and not true Christianity at all and we should be warning others to avoid it.
@@faithonfireministries Is catholicism dangerous too?
@@fourthplateau944It’s a very short step through the swinging door of atheism to
Calvinism , Calvinism to atheism.
@@truthseeker5698 you really have no mercy or love
Yes, Genesis 1 would be good. Ty.
The passage in 1 John is telling us that our on going faith in Christ and the keeping of his commandments are the effects of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.
I would like to add that faith is one of the blessings we receive as a result of being embraced by the everlasting covenant of grace (Heb. 13:20).
I’ve always wondered is that a real sword in the background? Looks like a cool antique.
I am so happy you noticed it. That is a very unique sword that means a lot to me. It is my Dad's US Marine Corps sword. He died a few years ago and my Mom gave it to me knowing I would honor him and his love for the Marine Corps. He was a wonderful Dad and effective Christian who bore his faith on his sleeve unapologetically. So, I bought the display case and mounted his sword in my home office where you see it in the background of my videos. Semper Fi... It means always faithful.
@@faithonfireministries aww…thats beautiful thank you❤
Calvinism is a lie from the pits of hell. I've listened to over 100 sermons from Spurgeon. I've never heard that in his sermons. I have never considered him a Calvinist. I do know he was reformed, and that can be completely different. I did hear him quote Calvin at times and also say that he care not what Calvin said. Meaning, he cares what Jesus says. God bless you
From what I've read of Spurgeon's writings, he seems to have been mistaken about what "Calvinism" actually is. He once stated that Calvinism was the Christian Gospel, a quote many internet Calvinists hold dearer than any part of the Bible. When one looks at what Spurgeon actually taught and what sides he took in various arguments, he wasn't nearly as "Calvinist" as he is made out to be, nor as "Calvinist" as he himself thought he was...
@@DamonNomad82 I agree 💯
@@DamonNomad82
Either calvinism was a lot different in Spurgeon's time, or Spurgeon was the absolute worst calvinist in the history of calvinism.
I'm new to this debate/argument but I do have a question; did Jesus choose His disciples, or did they choose Him?
Jesus had many disciples and chose 12 to be His Apostles. You are most likely thinking of John 6: 70 or John 15: 16 is which Jesus is speaking to the 12 Apostles. He didn't choose them for salvation but for service to a mission, to bear fruit (more believers) for the Kingdom of God. John 6: 70 clarifies perfectly that Jesus did not choose them for salvation despite Calvinists claiming so, Jesus saying to the 12 Apostles, "Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?" That devil was Judas and he was chosen but not saved.
And in John 15: 16, it says that the 12 Apostles didn't choose Jesus, He chose them, but then the verse explains exactly what Jesus chose them for. The Calvinist lie is that Jesus chose them for salvation but that isn't true based upon the verse itself. Worse yet, the Calvinist lie extends beyond the 12 Apostles and they often cite the beginning of the verse only (You didn't choose me, I chose You) and drop off the rest of it and then claim this applies to us today, that nobody chooses Jesus, He must choose us as the elect unto salvation but no Scripture supports that.
Here is the full verse from John 15: 16, "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."
11 of the 12 did what they were chosen for, to bring forth fruit that remains. That is us Christians and there are many millions around the world today, so they were chosen for a mission, not for salvation as one of them, Judas was chosen but failed to do the mission. Later, Jesus would give all Christians that same mission to go bear fruit that remains. We call it the Great Commission in the Bible, which is to preach the Gospel around the world and teach people to follow Jesus. All Christians are chosen to do this mission as followers of Jesus, but we are not forced by God to do it. We must choose to do it.
@@faithonfireministries I dont know nor do I particularly care about the specifics of Calvinism, I'm more interested in the Word than factions.
It would appear that He chose them for a stated purpose, but I was more focused that He chose them and specifically the word "chose" or Eklegomai in the Greek. It sounds like we would agree that He made a willful choice in choosing them.
I see the same word is used in Ephesian 1:4, so I can see where some would consider it arguable whether scripture supports that He chose the elect unto salvation.
Calvinists want you to come to that conclusion by isolating Ephesians 1:4 and reading it in a vacuum. I hope you will go back and read the entire chapter and in chapter 2 at least. Context is key to understanding what it means to be "in Christ" and what exactly is predestined, individuals to salvation or spiritual blessings in heavenly places to those who are already saved, in Christ. Read Ephesians 1:3 at least. That gives the context as to what is being predestined to believers. Verse 4 says nothing about the individual being chosen for salvation. It is the one who is "in Christ" that is already saved and they chosen (not to be saved) but chosen to be holy and blameless before God. Just read it again!
When we come to faith in Christ, God does not give some salvific gifts such as the adoption or justification by faith to some believers and different gifts to other believers or perhaps no gifts to some believers. Paul is explaining a list of spiritual blessings that extends over into even more spiritual blessings listed in Romans 8, that every single believer will receive from God because that was God's plan of redemption for mankind from before the foundations of the world.
Context continues into Ephesians 2 when Paul writes this, " 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: 13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ."
Notice that people were not chosen to be "in Christ" from before the foundation of the world. Before they became believers with faith in Christ, Paul says they were "without Christ." So, Calvinism is totally perverting Ephesians 1: 4 to try to lend credibility to their false theology, and they are ignoring the actual words on the page and avoiding most of the chapter and avoiding reading on for the full context. This is a wise saying, "context kills Calvinism."
Amen ........absolutely.......exactly.......
Amen!!
I would like to see the commentary
A lot of people requested it so I made that video. Here it is: ruclips.net/video/HbIoka48UW8/видео.html
Ephesians 1:34-14 tells us we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise AFTER that you heard that word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom AFTER that you BELIEVED, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit. We are not born again or regenerated before believing, it is after believing. We are saved by grace through faith, not saved by faith through grace, they have it backwards. Faith is not the gift, salvation or eternal life is the gift. Romans 6:23 says the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord, whatever is not of faith is sin, everything from God comes through believing his promises. Hebrews 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith. Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith. as it is written, the just shall live by faith. Every doctrine of TULIP can be debunked by scripture, it all came out of Catholicism as did Arminianism which is unbiblical as well. Another good video Brian, I really liked the way you presented both sides by the writers of the bible and the writers of Calvinism.
Calvinism is t a cult and this is a silly accusation. There are MANY great theologians and teachers who espouse this view and there are plenty of scriptural principles. For the Arminian who believes that sinful and deprived humans have the ability to choose God when Jesus clearly said “unless the Father draw you to me” has their own problems as well or if one believes that a human can reject that same drawing. Things a minor issue that should be debated and should be treated as such.
Part 2) We are LOST without Spiritual Truth. Instead, we debate one another according to 2 men's carnal beliefs. If they knew truth, they would not be debating. There is ONLY ONE TRUTH. and The Truth has no more Knowledge to know. So, if the truth is known than NO man would be able to dispute it. because it would be seen in ALL scripture the same truth. and indeed, it is.. But only those given truth can see it within the word. And ALL versions Have this IMAGE. NO MATTER who wrote it. Because EVERY version written by man is corrupt and has been added too or taken from in some way. either to make it easier to understand (because we in a carnal mind need order according to what we see, so we gave it numbers and commentary according to an image and order that we can better understand. Or outright change or take out whole verses. It does NOT matter. Because unless you take out the IMAGE of LIFE out of the bible. Which is IMPOSIBLE without destroying the whole thing. then it's inspired by God and can and does get people to see the truth he gave us in spirit withi9n the word. Don't take my word for it, take it up with God. I'm only a man and servant to the Truth God Gave me to see. I can no longer UNSEE it, lest I call the Word a Lier. In this Truth ONLY God can judge me. I judge no man according to the flesh but according to their truth. Lest it be carnal or spiritual the TRUE GOSPEL of Jesus Christ. Or WHO the people say that He is. My God bless all who read this according to His time and His Will for you. Sorry so Long, but Very important for us to Know if you don't want to be judged by the Physical Law in the end, Truth of it Spiritually was rejected and your physical works and belief and faith cannot save you, and God does not know you Spiritually, Your heart is that of STONE (Physical written word, ten commandments written on stone to see). Not a heart of flesh, as the TRUTH of Them are given Spiritually to us by God. To Only then see the TRUTH of Them as they are now written on our hearts, not in stone, but in the stone, we see the truth of them and WHO has written them. Love is Perfected in us. Who is Love "GOD" and what is the image of God? LIFE!. Not man, but in religion, that's who is perfected in us all right. MAN. We are really good at being a man, not so much a child and servant of God. We get our comfort from the world and men. rejecting the Spirit of Truth. Is this NOT a direct blaspheme of the Spirit, and indeed the sin we are in danger of never coming to God? Yes, it is. So go on then, don't say no one told you. You just cannot hear or see it. Because had you, then you would know EVERYONE in scripture is telling you the same thing. It's the Word we find our comfort, because the world religion and carnal mind will reject it and hate you for your Truth God Gives you, they cannot see it.. I promise you that you will feel alone in this world with TRUTH. The only comfort you have is seeing and knowing that Others before you were given this same truth as you see it in their words to us, as the Word bears witness to the Truth Now IN YOU. Good Luck in your religion though. You know, the One who says they have the truth. Oh Wait, that's ALL of them. Ya, good luck in your truth.. It leads to death. So, yah, if your image you see is only found in One version, then it's Not the right image, I promise you. It's a carnal understanding and Satan lead to keep you in the lie. Putting the creation before God. Your knowledge before Gods Truth. Carnal before Spiritual. All religion has it wrong, ALL. Because to say you're a religion is to say you hold the truth and All Others are wrong. Yet in this very judgement says that you don't know truth. Because If you did, you would Know that NO MAN CAN GIVE TRUTH TO MAN. So, by you saying that if you don't believe your truth given to others by YOU. Then your Lost. So, if someone is given truth by God and it goes against your image for Him, then The Spirit Is a Lier? No, your truth is carnal and NOT TRUTH. So, in this ALL religion has it wrong and the truth is Not In them). It's seen by How You Judge. Carnally or spiritually. Because if truth is known, you would know YOU did not find it. It was Given by GOD to you. So, what makes you think YOU can be the One to Tell others and get them to See It or Hear it? You can't. This is why we in TRUTH give the Gospel (spiritual Truth of Jesus the Son of God) and if it's not excepted, its Ok. We don't kill, fight, argue, or anything. We simply dust off our feet and leave. Because YOU can't get them to see ANYTHING. Think about this. Jesus, the WORD itself spoke the TRUTH and Not all believed Him. What makes you think you can do better than the WORD/Image of God Himself explaining TRUTH? You can't, and you understand this, so there is No need to judge physically other sinners like you. Or seek the Best Carnal version or religion. Because I'm At Rest in the truth. I no longer have to defend the Word. The Word is my Defense. and the Truth is my sword. Only God can judge me in this, NO MAN. Because they judge carnally (Something I already know and reject as carnal). It's not me who needs to know your truth. I had it for 40 years in a Baptist religion, who only thought the KJV was the right version. I was Wrong, and now it's You who needs Gods truth he gave to me. You can't judge that which you cannot see. I can, know having knowledge of what's carnal and spiritual. Carnal men only judge other carnal men. I'm no longer interested in Mans image or interpretation of Truth. I'm only interested in Gods. Its then seen in Scripture to give FAITH to the one who Gave it to you to see in the word/physical man (as the spirit will know the Spirit), God). Not the Physical Word, Physical Man, Jesus). But the Spiritual LIFE within the Physical man. The Word that was there in the beginning and will be there in the end.
We can only shine the Truth and leave it to God, to do A work in them. In this is not judgement, because you knew you were lost Also until God opened your eyes. So, too will HE them, if it be His Will. But if you hold to your truth, then DANGER you are in as you blaspheme the Spirit. Because you only have till you die to come to God. God Creates and He makes. We are created, then made in the image of our fathers (Unto death, in carnal understanding). At some point you must repent from your Carnal truth and come to God for His truth. So, He can Make You in His Image, not as Jesus (Perfect Man, Physical Law). But As God in Him, LIFE. Spiritual Truth of the LAW/Jesus/image of God/Word).
Unfortunately, Paul tells us that faith comes by hearing, Hearing the word of God.
Exactly.
Yes would like to see your thoughts on Genesis 1 and Calvinism ; than̈k you for your clear teaching.
Okay, that is coming up next. God bless you!
I think anyone who teaches Calvinism, especially the stealth infiltrator Calvinist pastor, don't actually know God. And by virtue of them not actually knowing God I think it's safe to say they aren't saved and aren't Christian. After all, Jesus said coming to know God is everlasting life. If you know him you'd reject Calvinism as the wicked, satanic lie it is.
'Wicked, satanic lie'? Are you a Christian?
So, your opening is ambiguous. Is Calvinism a cult or is it cult-like? You should be careful with your words, and your assertions.
I love you brother. I agree that Calvinism isn’t true, however I don’t believe all Calvinistic preachers are heretics. That would imply that they are damned when there are some that are truly saved
I am glad you disagree with Calvinism. Do you believe there are some real Christians who are truly saved but then got a visit from some Jehovah's Witnesses with their own NWT Bible and resources and as crazy as it sounds, that person ultimately thought what they taught made sense and that Christian converted to their belief system and is now a JW? Or do you believe that conversion is evidence the person was never saved in the first place? If that is your view then likewise no Calvinist is a saved Christian either, but I don't agree with that. Now, to your point. Do you think that person was ever saved to begin with if they are not only converted to JWs, but the person becomes an influential leading voice and pastor in the JW religion?
We may disagree on this point, but I think those who pastor such churches were never saved and I believe they know they are unbiblical and they concoct all sorts of deceptions to convert Christians over to their belief system anyway, and they do it because they are cult leaders who want more cult followers. The same dynamic is true in Calvinism.
Actually, John Calvin may have had a little help from The Cathar Book of the Two Principles in the formulation of his theology.
Make the Genesis 1 refuting Calvinism video.
Will do. Thanks
What about the dangers of Universalism aka Martin Zender, Ace Theo on RUclips.
They all use only the Concordant literal version Bible by AE Knock
Universalism is always false according to Scripture which is the sole basis for truth, so no matter who is promoting universalism, they are all false teachers and don't know or believe in the true Gospel of Christ.
I don’t belong to a “camp”. I was unchurched except for cultural Americanized christianity. I thought I was saved because I was born here. That’s a lie. I began yearning to know God. That was not me. We know that because of Scripture. I went by choice to an SBC church and was gladly taken in with nothing more than a simple profession of faith that I did not even understand. God opened my ears to the the beautiful GOSPEL on His time. Not mine. The LAW convicts the sinner that is in delusion and the GOSPEL becomes GLORIOUS.
That is regeneration. No need for any additional prophets, signs or wonders because the GOSPEL is the power of God unto salvation. Oh glorious repentance - no longer trying to hide my sins but telling my Father how sorry I am and wanting to obey because He loves me and cares about me. Jesus paid for the sun I committed.
I don’t know what kind of camp you’d want to put me in but the constant belittling is tiring. Every false prophet will be exposed.
Jesus Christ is THE Lord. My High Priest. THE Savior. THE KING.
Yes to genesis 1
Calvinism is more of an Aberent theology than a Cult. I understand a Cult as a belief that denies the Trinity, the Supreme Deity of Jesus, Heaven and Hell and Grace and not works. Calvinists believe in all that. Calvinists don't have a different plan of salvation, rather a different way of God achieving that plan .
Calvinists are cessationists yet the T in TULIP - total depravity - relies on the working of the Holy Spirit to regenerate them!
You need to re-read 1 John 3:23- 24. John is speaking to believers in the church. Note what he says at the end of 24 it is the Holy Spirit whom he has given us that we are able to keep the commandments. Stop misinterpreting scripture. You’re using a verse like this to make your point but the verse does not back up your premise.
Did you go back and actually read this in context? I’m trying to help you here as it’s clear you struggle to interpret the Bible correctly.