Well done, Jimmy. These guys should be called out for this, as in my book what they do should be illegal!!!! Like a previous poster said, how many people scrap their car/van when faced with a £2-3K potential bill, when there is absolutely nothing wrong with their vehicle, and someone who knows what they are doing, like you, could sort it for a couple of hundred quid!!!
GM/Vauxhall were doing this together with the emissions cheat software. I had two new diesels bought at the same time that were driven for different purposes and both had the same fault at the same mileage. They also took them in for fake recalls, tried suggesting they found other work and even reflashed ECUs in a panic to hide emission cheats in 2013. All we need now is to visit a few scrapyards and reverse engineer whatever is in the ECU to see when it all started. My guess is around 2010. I know for a fact, about 10 years before this, insurance companies used to work closely with Car Insurers and get ECU data relating to max values of sensors and inputs/outputs for different components. For example, they could see if a car had some kind of ECU REMAP applied, or one of those cheap nasty tuning boxes containing £5 of components and sold for £500+ ! Insurers advised what they needed to catch people out and police then took an interest as they were able to see the state of the car around 30s before impact or collisions. That data was used in evidence, the same way as airbag ECU data records speed of deployment. This all developed and car manufacturers were able to encrypt this data to stop it being erased. A lot of it was hidden, but main dealerships could read it to void warranty claims. Car makers also started causing things to happen, they first used this to limit the power of the engine until certain mileages were covered, and later to abuse the customers. In response to complaints from dealerships that wanted to sell more cars, which they got for 30% of list price anyway, more cars had to break, get big repair bills quoted and cars traded in or scrapped. It's now got out of hand and I suggest each manufacturer is running a number of "failure programs" within software, so it is random as to whether you get the one with the failing DPF at 11,000miles, faulty radio, or the broken turbo at 40,000miles. It is unclear if dealerships could alter this, if they could, it would explain how some were able to max-out the warranty claims on nearly new cars by presenting fake data for claims, but not having to fix anything. Warranty companies should investigate all this. A Vauxhall franchise, now close down, had a deal with a car hire company to get them business by claiming for as many hire cars and prolonging repairs - often blaming lack of parts. I once waited 4months for a DPF, even though a factory had hundreds of them they did not need and were willing to order more and hand those in stock over. The offer was declined! I remember talking to people at a car factory that supplied dealership franchises. Around 2012 one vauxhall franchise (staff were convicted of theft and fraud on customers before it was closed down) got really mad about so many Birmingham registered cars driving around the North West and being taken to dealerships. They would be on the phone whinging about people "stealing their customers" and it turned out it was workers at the factory buying the cars on a staff scheme at 40% of List Price, paying them off in 4months, selling them without paying tax, then ordering a new one every few months absolutely loaded with optional extras! So with hundreds of people at it, the market was flooded. There is a lot of things about car dealerships, franchises and how they work with insurers and police that is not always made public. It would make a fantastic documentary. Another interesting one would be how staff at one dealership I used would be forced to sell as much as possible, even offer finance and service plans to screw the customers! They were told each corner is worth a set figure - so get it or face disciplinary action. Women with child seats were always told brakes were faulty and it would be illegal to put the car on the road again. Younger boy racers were always told shock absorbers and clutches were broken. Often the cars had nothing wrong. You can't trust anyone.
Criminal, pure greed from this manufacturer( fraudulent i wound say, given it does not need a new DPF but would have).. Shocking behaviour. I admire your honesty and integrity Jimmy for calling out this information, esp for those running these cars and who maybe are worried sick about replacement DPF costs during a cost of living crises. Well Done 💪👍🏻👌👏👏👏👏
I've got a Berlingo and I was worried about future costs with the DPF etc. But thanks to the info you've shared on your channel over the years, and the Launch tablet (not the posh one!) I decided to buy, I'm much more confident I can diagnose issues like this myself now and if I can't fix it, I can at least be armed with knowledge before contacting a garage for repair. Keep up the good work 👍
Well done to you mate for highlighting these devious B*******s tricks, and not taking advantage of these situations. We all need someone like you, who we can trust. Cheers Quinny
It would be hilarious if Peugeot and Citroen doing this violated some sort of consumer protection law. Imagine if it turned out like the VW diesel emissions scandal.
Yer - well they have made sure that wont happen - Reiner Fulmich -) who brought the case against VW) - they fabricated some evidence against him and locked him up !!
@@hughmarcus1 Yer they are all at it - it was Just VW that got caught - they are building in faults - Ford is a classic - you buy a new van & then have to spend £2000 getting the locks upgraded - as a kid can open them - and dont get me started about the Eco boost engines !!!
Mercedes have done something similar with their hybrid batteries. They have a finite number (I can’t recall what that is, but tends to average around 100k miles). It works by measuring the number of times the vehicle stops & starts & when it reaches the pre-determined number it won’t start. Replacement battery? £10k plus. Not surprisingly you can buy one for a song. 😬
I understand that at that age the dpf should be checked, who honestly would do that unless they were forced to? Enjoy your content and appreciate the information.
Good morning, I have the same principle on my psa 5008 blue hdi 120. The fap works well, the pressures are good, the vehicle has 135,000 km, and with the diag tool the data indicates replacement limit 160,000 km. Thank you for this video.
Very interesting, did a scan on my 17 plate 508SW using the Xtool AM30 on the phone, superb bit of kit, anyway the cut off reading I have is at 158,960 miles, I've done 107,770 so 51k to go, bar stewards, keep up the excellent videos.
Well done James big fan of the chanel😮 had my self last month just another way of getting you to spend £100 an hour plus parts at your local pug Citroen toyota vauxhall dealer muging us over
a-m-az-i-n-g !!! During the past decades I've learned a lot about sleezy car maker's policies and service practices but this one makes my blood boil....thanks a million for revealing this, will certainly check with my Dacia (aka Renault) Duster...I am now over 150 000 km and take care of my car better than myself....btw, I first hit the subscribe button even before writing this comment ....
Excellent explanation with proof in the pudding data 👍 is there a way of checking the eloys tank level with a diagnostic machine, autel for example 😉 keep em coming Jimmy 👍
I bought a Citreon Berlingo van with 160 thousand miles and drove it for a further 5,000 miles. Following a normal journey and parked in my garage but it refused to start after a few days. My fault finder indicated an intermittant crankcase sensor. Although I replaced the sensor I had to take it to my local Citreon Dealer which cost me £800. However the repair only lasted about a week and again it did not break down until after it was parked in my garage.
I have a 2011 Citroen C5 1.6hdi with 218,000 miles on it, have it since 80,000 miles and I have never had a dpf related fault code just a warning that it needs a regen and it does it the next time I drive because when I park the fan is on. We have a 2008 C4 grand Picasso with 195,000 miles on it the exact same no problems. We use high grade oil and top tier diesel and change the oil every 9000 miles.
I’ve never heard my 2009 be golf regen in months now but both my car and my sons seat Ibiza both about same miles both needed new turbo actuators so maybe be and seat also set fault codes to come on at certain miles 🤔thanks for all other info in other videos
So after watching this video I checked the FAP fluid on my 2013 Citroen C4 1.6HDI that has done 71.000 miles. The diagnostic showed that the ECU detected 650ml of fluid left in the FAP tank but when checking the tank itself I found only a few drops, less than 5ml. No wonder the DPFs get clogged. It seems PSA is intentionally trying to make sure these engines go bad after 100.000 miles
Every car manufacturer makes more profit on parts than selling the car. Rolls Royce aero engines make no money at all selling the engines, all.of the profit is parts and maintenance contracts.
I dont think the problem is that the warning light comes on at 120K. The problem is more with the garages saying the dpf needs replacing. If instead of saying it needs replacing they said it needs connecting to a scanner and checking it would make more sense. I was a bit disappointed with the Kingbolen K8. I have been considering replacing my scanner with a K8 or K10. The Launch scanner is good but I can't justify the price when I only do my car and friends cars.
This is the problem - main dealers at least, seem to only employ parts fitters now. Not people with diagnostic skills or who can actually repair stuff. I guess from a business point of view there's more money to be made selling parts than diagnosing and fixing issues.
@@MultiVogonAgreed. I trained in garages late 70s early 80s. We learnt to fix things. Recently I was talking to a garage " mechanic " about a faulty starting motor on a very rare older foreign car. He said he could not find a replacement starter so I said try and replace the brushes. He looked confused and had never heard of brushes. He had been a full time mechanic in the garage for 5 years and had all his college papers. Another reason they just replace parts now is the labour charges often make it cheaper to just replace the part rather than repair it.
A main dealer will be following a workshop procedure set by the mfr. that procedure will tell them what to do. If they exercise a bit of discretion they risk losing their franchise. In any case, a main dealer isn’t really interested in a 10yr old model with 120,000 miles.
Lol, my car is 60 years old with starship mileage, I don’t get any of these problems, plus it’s more reliable than these new fangled things! Plugs, oil and filters once a year, do it myself, other maintenance as required, jobs a good un! Beam me up Scotty! 😂
Surely this is easily proved illegal, surprised the blame/claim layers haven't started a campaign. Edit, Jimmy you should get in touch with them with your findings, might be a little earner in it for you
I don't quite agree with it being legal, by comparing it to air/oil filters. Simply beacause it would cost more to test those items than to replace. Also when purchasing a vehicle you are made aware of servicing items and cost if you enquire at the service desk Where does Citroen state that at 120k you will need a new DPF as a standard service item.
@@geoffwoodgate7450 But if it's still functioning they have obviously calculated it's design life incorrectly. Name one other component that has a design life mileage, that disables the vehicle functioning
Hi A quick question saw one of your videos on insignia screen replacement Can I fit a bigger screen from a 2017 into my 2013 ? If so do I need extra wiring ?
We have some Renault masters that have Dpf issues.. we've followed your videos on using launch UK cleaner & have done 3 cycles on a van but I cannot get the differential pressure down lower than 30 hpa at idle. Would this suggest a Dpf that's just too blocked?
@@ORileysAutos Thanks for replying. Yes we used a gun and compressor but it's not the genuine launch gun, they're out of stock ☹️ we were desperate to get van on road so bought an aftermarket one. I'm suspicious of it though as it doesn't seem to foam up like it does on your vids.
Was about to buy one Kingbolen K8. But seems like this tool doesn't work properly with PSA engines (DPF diagnostic). Maybe otofix will do the job? Or some other low price diagnostic tool? Any suggestions?
@@ORileysAutos Thanks mate! So the question remains, which toll will work better with most common PSA engines (Citroen, Renault, Nissan and also Vivaro). Watched all of your low price tools reviews (Kingbolen k8/10, Otofix D1,Topdon, Mucar, Lauch... ). Maybe you had a chance to check which would be better for PSA? Or maybe Launch X431 CRP919 will do the job?
@@ORileysAutos Watched your another video you posted about a year ago. Your air compressor and DPF gun were new and shiny back then :D And also noticed you have been using Autel MS906BT. Do you think this one would be ok for beginning to work with PSA ?
If all the values and dpf flows are OK could you rest the dpf before the mileage or get a dpf clean and reset Another question if you have a adblue tank do you also have a eolys tank
Another great job, Jimmy. What would you consider as high dpf pressure for vw 2.0 tdi-s (ea288) engines? I’d be interested in idle and 3k rpm values :)
Hi Jim if you still have the Launch X431 CRP919X that you reviewed a while ago would you be able to use it on a future job ?? - I bought one but would like to see what it can do in the professionals hands - Thanks for all the videos you do it is a great help to people
Peugeot 180k km ? They are worse than BMW with 245k km . I had mine on my E90 at about 245.000km , bought a cleaning spray + lambda and reset it . I’m at 280.000 now and never again that error. And how others say in the comments, I agree that is soft based and also that it is not as no as performant as a new one , but my muffler is still shiny inside and passed the MOT so it should be fine.
Needs someone to read the software in the ECU or what ever gives that code and then ID the code that triggers the 120k. Or...someone to jig the mileage (clock) from a low mileage to just before 120k and see what happens.
On a similar theme. My mate who instals alarm systems put one in for me after I had been burgled. He showed me the pragramme on the control panel that selected the date and time that the system would stop working with the message 'Contact installation technician to clear system fault'. Bunch of bastards!
How do they get away with doing this? and things like continuing to release new shape cars with old engines with same old faults vauxhall timing chains been one but then who do all the manufacturers pay tax ect to😂
I dont think Jimmy is correct here. He is not an engineer. Clearly the filter itself has a life regardless of whether it has a high differential pressure. Because of this, the manufacturers (who do have engineers) need a way to alert owners of the life being exceeded.
So are you saying, all dpf filters should be replaced at 120k regardless whether its in perfect working condition, ie not blocked? And why is it, only Peugeot and Citroen that have adopted this practice 🤔
@@ORileysAutos I agree but the filter itself must have a finite life. This will be related to the distance driven because there will be an average speed therefore an average volume of exhaust gas processed by the filter. It may be that they must put this limit in to meet the emission regulation design criteria.
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Well done, Jimmy. These guys should be called out for this, as in my book what they do should be illegal!!!! Like a previous poster said, how many people scrap their car/van when faced with a £2-3K potential bill, when there is absolutely nothing wrong with their vehicle, and someone who knows what they are doing, like you, could sort it for a couple of hundred quid!!!
GM/Vauxhall were doing this together with the emissions cheat software. I had two new diesels bought at the same time that were driven for different purposes and both had the same fault at the same mileage. They also took them in for fake recalls, tried suggesting they found other work and even reflashed ECUs in a panic to hide emission cheats in 2013. All we need now is to visit a few scrapyards and reverse engineer whatever is in the ECU to see when it all started. My guess is around 2010. I know for a fact, about 10 years before this, insurance companies used to work closely with Car Insurers and get ECU data relating to max values of sensors and inputs/outputs for different components. For example, they could see if a car had some kind of ECU REMAP applied, or one of those cheap nasty tuning boxes containing £5 of components and sold for £500+ ! Insurers advised what they needed to catch people out and police then took an interest as they were able to see the state of the car around 30s before impact or collisions. That data was used in evidence, the same way as airbag ECU data records speed of deployment. This all developed and car manufacturers were able to encrypt this data to stop it being erased. A lot of it was hidden, but main dealerships could read it to void warranty claims.
Car makers also started causing things to happen, they first used this to limit the power of the engine until certain mileages were covered, and later to abuse the customers. In response to complaints from dealerships that wanted to sell more cars, which they got for 30% of list price anyway, more cars had to break, get big repair bills quoted and cars traded in or scrapped.
It's now got out of hand and I suggest each manufacturer is running a number of "failure programs" within software, so it is random as to whether you get the one with the failing DPF at 11,000miles, faulty radio, or the broken turbo at 40,000miles. It is unclear if dealerships could alter this, if they could, it would explain how some were able to max-out the warranty claims on nearly new cars by presenting fake data for claims, but not having to fix anything. Warranty companies should investigate all this. A Vauxhall franchise, now close down, had a deal with a car hire company to get them business by claiming for as many hire cars and prolonging repairs - often blaming lack of parts. I once waited 4months for a DPF, even though a factory had hundreds of them they did not need and were willing to order more and hand those in stock over. The offer was declined!
I remember talking to people at a car factory that supplied dealership franchises. Around 2012 one vauxhall franchise (staff were convicted of theft and fraud on customers before it was closed down) got really mad about so many Birmingham registered cars driving around the North West and being taken to dealerships. They would be on the phone whinging about people "stealing their customers" and it turned out it was workers at the factory buying the cars on a staff scheme at 40% of List Price, paying them off in 4months, selling them without paying tax, then ordering a new one every few months absolutely loaded with optional extras! So with hundreds of people at it, the market was flooded.
There is a lot of things about car dealerships, franchises and how they work with insurers and police that is not always made public. It would make a fantastic documentary.
Another interesting one would be how staff at one dealership I used would be forced to sell as much as possible, even offer finance and service plans to screw the customers! They were told each corner is worth a set figure - so get it or face disciplinary action. Women with child seats were always told brakes were faulty and it would be illegal to put the car on the road again. Younger boy racers were always told shock absorbers and clutches were broken. Often the cars had nothing wrong.
You can't trust anyone.
Criminal, pure greed from this manufacturer( fraudulent i wound say, given it does not need a new DPF but would have).. Shocking behaviour. I admire your honesty and integrity Jimmy for calling out this information, esp for those running these cars and who maybe are worried sick about replacement DPF costs during a cost of living crises. Well Done 💪👍🏻👌👏👏👏👏
I've got a Berlingo and I was worried about future costs with the DPF etc. But thanks to the info you've shared on your channel over the years, and the Launch tablet (not the posh one!) I decided to buy, I'm much more confident I can diagnose issues like this myself now and if I can't fix it, I can at least be armed with knowledge before contacting a garage for repair. Keep up the good work 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Well done to you mate for highlighting these devious B*******s tricks, and not taking advantage of these situations. We all need someone like you, who we can trust.
Cheers Quinny
Thank god I found ,bloody hell can't believe it
How many other manufacturers do this ?
It would be hilarious if Peugeot and Citroen doing this violated some sort of consumer protection law. Imagine if it turned out like the VW diesel emissions scandal.
Yer - well they have made sure that wont happen - Reiner Fulmich -) who brought the case against VW) - they fabricated some evidence against him and locked him up !!
If we really knew what the rest were at, the VW thing would look like a picnic.
@@hughmarcus1 Yer they are all at it - it was Just VW that got caught - they are building in faults - Ford is a classic - you buy a new van & then have to spend £2000 getting the locks upgraded - as a kid can open them - and dont get me started about the Eco boost engines !!!
@@colinblythe3710 Safly very true Colin. 🤪
Spot on Jimmy. Well done for exposing this scam.
Learn so much from this channel 👍
Glad to hear it!
Hi there Thankyou so much for your insight and most of all your honesty
Mercedes have done something similar with their hybrid batteries. They have a finite number (I can’t recall what that is, but tends to average around 100k miles).
It works by measuring the number of times the vehicle stops & starts & when it reaches the pre-determined number it won’t start.
Replacement battery? £10k plus.
Not surprisingly you can buy one for a song. 😬
Makes sense, a bad battery would burn your car down which is more than 10k.
I understand that at that age the dpf should be checked, who honestly would do that unless they were forced to? Enjoy your content and appreciate the information.
I suspect many main dealers will be crying in to their overstocked DPF parts bins.
Great content,never too old to learn something new.👍
Good morning,
I have the same principle on my psa 5008 blue hdi 120. The fap works well, the pressures are good, the vehicle has 135,000 km, and with the diag tool the data indicates replacement limit 160,000 km.
Thank you for this video.
Very interesting, did a scan on my 17 plate 508SW using the Xtool AM30 on the phone, superb bit of kit, anyway the cut off reading I have is at 158,960 miles, I've done 107,770 so 51k to go, bar stewards, keep up the excellent videos.
Well done yet again👍👍
Thanks again!
Cheers jimmy, you have touched on this before with PSA Vehicles. This very situation stops me from buying a newer Diesel Van. See you on the next one.
Jimmy. Fair dues for showing whats what.
You're the man Jimmy. Good lad.
Knowledge is Power thanks for enlightening us
My pleasure
A lot of companies use the same strategy with hybrid batteries.
Always enjoy watching your videos ❤
Well done James big fan of the chanel😮 had my self last month just another way of getting you to spend £100 an hour plus parts at your local pug Citroen toyota vauxhall dealer muging us over
a-m-az-i-n-g !!! During the past decades I've learned a lot about sleezy car maker's policies and service practices but this one makes my blood boil....thanks a million for revealing this, will certainly check with my Dacia (aka Renault) Duster...I am now over 150 000 km and take care of my car better than myself....btw, I first hit the subscribe button even before writing this comment ....
God I wished you lived near me !!! Makes total sense thank you brother 👍
Hi there Jimmy excellent,,top man in this field 💪,, keep up with your great work,,,
Excellent explanation with proof in the pudding data 👍 is there a way of checking the eloys tank level with a diagnostic machine, autel for example 😉 keep em coming Jimmy 👍
Well done that man!
I bought a Citreon Berlingo van with 160 thousand miles and drove it for a further 5,000 miles. Following a normal journey and parked in my garage but it refused to start after a few days. My fault finder indicated an intermittant crankcase sensor. Although I replaced the sensor I had to take it to my local Citreon Dealer which cost me £800. However the repair only lasted about a week and again it did not break down until after it was parked in my garage.
what was the problem then ??
A flat battery
@@alanc1406😂😂😂😂
Top man. Excellent video that 👍
Thanks 👍
I have a 2011 Citroen C5 1.6hdi with 218,000 miles on it, have it since 80,000 miles and I have never had a dpf related fault code just a warning that it needs a regen and it does it the next time I drive because when I park the fan is on. We have a 2008 C4 grand Picasso with 195,000 miles on it the exact same no problems. We use high grade oil and top tier diesel and change the oil every 9000 miles.
Top man jimmy
Great info Jimmy.
Glad it was helpful!
Well done, Jimmy!! What a dreadful thing to do to these owners'!
I’ve never heard my 2009 be golf regen in months now but both my car and my sons seat Ibiza both about same miles both needed new turbo actuators so maybe be and seat also set fault codes to come on at certain miles 🤔thanks for all other info in other videos
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Question : can we use "diesel additives" pour into tank to clean PDF, fuel lines and glow plugs?
Yes. Check out www.launchtech.co.uk
So after watching this video I checked the FAP fluid on my 2013 Citroen C4 1.6HDI that has done 71.000 miles. The diagnostic showed that the ECU detected 650ml of fluid left in the FAP tank but when checking the tank itself I found only a few drops, less than 5ml. No wonder the DPFs get clogged. It seems PSA is intentionally trying to make sure these engines go bad after 100.000 miles
PSA been doing stuff like that for years. Thats why their cars are cheaper because they get you on the parts
Every car manufacturer makes more profit on parts than selling the car. Rolls Royce aero engines make no money at all selling the engines, all.of the profit is parts and maintenance contracts.
Still a good 1 O'Riley :-)
I dont think the problem is that the warning light comes on at 120K. The problem is more with the garages saying the dpf needs replacing. If instead of saying it needs replacing they said it needs connecting to a scanner and checking it would make more sense.
I was a bit disappointed with the Kingbolen K8. I have been considering replacing my scanner with a K8 or K10.
The Launch scanner is good but I can't justify the price when I only do my car and friends cars.
This is the problem - main dealers at least, seem to only employ parts fitters now. Not people with diagnostic skills or who can actually repair stuff. I guess from a business point of view there's more money to be made selling parts than diagnosing and fixing issues.
@@MultiVogonAgreed. I trained in garages late 70s early 80s. We learnt to fix things.
Recently I was talking to a garage " mechanic " about a faulty starting motor on a very rare older foreign car. He said he could not find a replacement starter so I said try and replace the brushes. He looked confused and had never heard of brushes. He had been a full time mechanic in the garage for 5 years and had all his college papers.
Another reason they just replace parts now is the labour charges often make it cheaper to just replace the part rather than repair it.
A main dealer will be following a workshop procedure set by the mfr. that procedure will tell them what to do. If they exercise a bit of discretion they risk losing their franchise.
In any case, a main dealer isn’t really interested in a 10yr old model with 120,000 miles.
Great stuff.
Thanks again jimmy for this info 👍 do Vauxhall have this
Not that I know of
@@ORileysAutos thanks jimmy 👍
Lol, my car is 60 years old with starship mileage, I don’t get any of these problems, plus it’s more reliable than these new fangled things! Plugs, oil and filters once a year, do it myself, other maintenance as required, jobs a good un! Beam me up Scotty! 😂
How many cars get scrapped off when they hit this magical mileage vs cost, especially if you are a low mileage driver.
You think that they intended to build a light bulb that never burns out? That won't help their sales.
Surely this is easily proved illegal, surprised the blame/claim layers haven't started a campaign.
Edit, Jimmy you should get in touch with them with your findings, might be a little earner in it for you
I don't quite agree with it being legal, by comparing it to air/oil filters. Simply beacause it would cost more to test those items than to replace. Also when purchasing a vehicle you are made aware of servicing items and cost if you enquire at the service desk
Where does Citroen state that at 120k you will need a new DPF as a standard service item.
They probably dont but if it is set in the ECU that is most likely within its design life limit.
@@geoffwoodgate7450 But if it's still functioning they have obviously calculated it's design life incorrectly. Name one other component that has a design life mileage, that disables the vehicle functioning
Ford injectors?
@@Phantom-mk4kp
Hi
A quick question saw one of your videos on insignia screen replacement
Can I fit a bigger screen from a 2017 into my 2013 ?
If so do I need extra wiring ?
than you for your videos. i think the help many people around the world. can you recomend a scanner for that work you make to a fair price ?
kingbolentool.com/?ref=iq39r3l2
K8 or K10?
We have some Renault masters that have Dpf issues.. we've followed your videos on using launch UK cleaner & have done 3 cycles on a van but I cannot get the differential pressure down lower than 30 hpa at idle. Would this suggest a Dpf that's just too blocked?
Did you use it with the gun on a compressor?
@@ORileysAutos Thanks for replying. Yes we used a gun and compressor but it's not the genuine launch gun, they're out of stock ☹️ we were desperate to get van on road so bought an aftermarket one. I'm suspicious of it though as it doesn't seem to foam up like it does on your vids.
Was about to buy one Kingbolen K8. But seems like this tool doesn't work properly with PSA engines (DPF diagnostic). Maybe otofix will do the job? Or some other low price diagnostic tool? Any suggestions?
All tools will have issues like this. Kingbolen has it on this model. Otofix will have it on the next one. You need 3 different tools to minimise this
@@ORileysAutos Thanks mate! So the question remains, which toll will work better with most common PSA engines (Citroen, Renault, Nissan and also Vivaro). Watched all of your low price tools reviews (Kingbolen k8/10, Otofix D1,Topdon, Mucar, Lauch... ). Maybe you had a chance to check which would be better for PSA? Or maybe Launch X431 CRP919 will do the job?
@@ORileysAutos Watched your another video you posted about a year ago. Your air compressor and DPF gun were new and shiny back then :D And also noticed you have been using Autel MS906BT. Do you think this one would be ok for beginning to work with PSA ?
Does anyone know if Mazda is programmed to do the same? I have a CX-7 that has thrown this fault at around the same mileage...cheers
If all the values and dpf flows are OK could you rest the dpf before the mileage or get a dpf clean and reset
Another question if you have a adblue tank do you also have a eolys tank
Have the same van coming up to 120k what diagnostic tool will do this on a budget?!
Contact Launch UK www.launchtech.co.uk
Probably the new MOT4
@@ORileysAutos Would the Launch 919x do this reset? Maybe something to try for a future video?
Ti posso dire un grazie mille.
They should just have a warning light for it like the oil light saying due a check with a qualified inspector.
Another great job, Jimmy. What would you consider as high dpf pressure for vw 2.0 tdi-s (ea288) engines? I’d be interested in idle and 3k rpm values :)
Higher than 10hPa at idle and higher than 50hPa at 3000 revs would be high dpf pressures
Hi Jimmy, how do you rate that KingBolen and would you recommend it for novice? Or anything else for a grand?
Thanks
Yes I've put my affiliate link in the description. K10 is a better unit if you can afford it.
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@ORileysAutos I appreciate that 🙏, thank you very much
I would have preferred it if you had done the finger in the tailpipe to show it was clean.
I went to Toyota years ago, left many problems behind.
Hi Jim if you still have the Launch X431 CRP919X that you reviewed a while ago would you be able to use it on a future job ?? - I bought one but would like to see what it can do in the professionals hands - Thanks for all the videos you do it is a great help to people
Peugeot 180k km ? They are worse than BMW with 245k km .
I had mine on my E90 at about 245.000km , bought a cleaning spray + lambda and reset it . I’m at 280.000 now and never again that error.
And how others say in the comments, I agree that is soft based and also that it is not as no as performant as a new one , but my muffler is still shiny inside and passed the MOT so it should be fine.
Needs someone to read the software in the ECU or what ever gives that code and then ID the code that triggers the 120k. Or...someone to jig the mileage (clock) from a low mileage to just before 120k and see what happens.
Is there 2 types of dog for these berligos???
Is there a casee for fraud if the manufscturer had sabotaged the car to steal money from you in repairs
Mini is exactly the same.
It’s the Peugeot engine in the Mini that’s why.
So should be the same for Toyota, would be interesting to know. Different continent may have different legal positions
It's a BMW engine i was talking about.@@pauldolphin6390
Class action potential, vehicle manufactured and programmed to deactivate the vehicles emission equipment. 😬
On a similar theme. My mate who instals alarm systems put one in for me after I had been burgled.
He showed me the pragramme on the control panel that selected the date and time that the system would stop working with the message 'Contact installation technician to clear system fault'.
Bunch of bastards!
Its terrible how companies are allowed off with this sort of thing (legalised robbery)👍
Absolutely disgusting behaviour from these manufacturers.
How do they get away with doing this? and things like continuing to release new shape cars with old engines with same old faults vauxhall timing chains been one but then who do all the manufacturers pay tax ect to😂
Taught by Apple
Is the car worth that lol 😢
GEOFF Thats nonsence
I dont think Jimmy is correct here. He is not an engineer. Clearly the filter itself has a life regardless of whether it has a high differential pressure. Because of this, the manufacturers (who do have engineers) need a way to alert owners of the life being exceeded.
So are you saying, all dpf filters should be replaced at 120k regardless whether its in perfect working condition, ie not blocked? And why is it, only Peugeot and Citroen that have adopted this practice 🤔
I think Jimmy is correct. This is build in obsolescence.
The differential pressure sensor is there to alert the owner of a problem
@@ORileysAutos I agree but the filter itself must have a finite life. This will be related to the distance driven because there will be an average speed therefore an average volume of exhaust gas processed by the filter. It may be that they must put this limit in to meet the emission regulation design criteria.
How many kilometers do you think it should last?