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DPReview TV: Tamron 35mm F2.8 ($349) vs Sony/Zeiss 35mm F2.8 ($800)
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- The new Tamron 35mm F2.8 lens for E-mount has an attractive price, but how does it stack up against Sony's own 35mm F2.8 Zeiss? According to Chris and Jordan, pretty darn well. Find out what they like about this lens. Want to pixel-peep the images from this episode? Check out our sample galleries:
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I love the subtle dry humor. And the accurate USD to CAD conversion.
I had to do a double take.
That was beautiful.
Yeh. That was laughs. :)
It's not pesos.
That was a good one indeed! :D
LoL, Chris' humour has reached a new level. Their little review videos are becoming really funny, which is much needed when we're talking about 35m lenses
The crying Jordan photo is such a fine art piece
These need to be a T-Shirt.
perfect for my living room
I just got the Tamron, and can confirm it's excellent. It's lightweight on the Sony, and it's sharp. Definitely has the image quality of prime lenses twice the price, the only caveat being the smaller aperture. At 2.8 it's plenty usable, but at f/4 it really shines. I usually keep at it at that aperture all the time as a walk-around lens for images with sharp with punchy contrast.
A serious omission is that the Sony Zeiss Sonnar 35mm f/2.8 T* ZA is made in Japan. (One of the very few Sony full frame e-mount lenses that is made in Japan). The Tamron FE 28mm f/2.8 is made in Vietnam.
Most small Sony e-mount APS-C or full frame lenses have a 49mm filter thread. The 49mm is very common with Sony even during the Minolta a-mount era. 67mm filters of the same brand and type are always more expensive than 49mm filters. Plus the lens hood of the Sony Zeiss FE 35mm f/2.8 with the code ALC-Sh129 has a filter thread of 40.5mm can accept even smaller and maybe less expensive
and heavy filters. The Sony Zeiss 35mm f/2.8 like most lenses with Sonnar design has good sharpness but suffers from serious chromatic aberration.
The Sony Zeiss was one of the very first full frame e-mount lenses. It was even earliest than the kit lens Sony FE 28-70 f/4-5.6. It was made small and light in order to emphasize how small and light the Sony a6 and a6r cameras were in comparison to full frame dSLR in 2003. Since 2003 of the introduction of Sony a7 and a7R, the Sony Zeiss is still smallest and lightest full frame e-mount lens.
Sony has two APS-C e-mount pancake lenses but it isn't interested at in a full frame e-mount pancake lens.
Also don't forget to check the much cheaper Samyang/Rokinon full frame autofocus e-mount FE 35mm f/2.8 which have a very similar size and weight with the Sony Zeiss FE 35mm f/2.8.
I think someone mentioned this below, but the 35mm Zony 2.8 is probably best found gently used. Personally, I’ve come to love this lens for its rendition. The colors I find preferable to the equivalent Tamron or the Samyang. I also trust the build quality more for it. I found mine for a bit less than $400 USD (probably like 3.48 billion CAD with today’s conversion rate). If this difference is, say, a Samyang used for $300 or the Zony for $400, I think its a nod to the Zony. Definitely overpriced when it came out, but for travel and streetphotography (where fast, great auto AF is welcomed), buying used, this is one of the best deals on the A7 platform.
Sony really needs to drop the prices on some of those early E-mount lenses. Especially this and the 35 1.8 APS-C lens. At this point they’ve already paid off the tooling and they cost them pennies on the dollar to produce.
I have 10 vintage lenses and the kit lens. I am not planning on buying any new lenses with the current price market
plz. is sony 35mm f1.8 for full frame or just for aps ?
@@BaraaAljanabi the 2 versions exist
#10-18mm
@@julienxie1110 oss version
that CAD conversion rate is getting pretty crazy these days
I'm a simple man, I see Chris & Jordan, I like
Excellent, concise, informative review, thank you. (Even the humor works!)
The price of the Zeiss lens seems to fall off a cliff in the used market. I got a near-perfect one for about US$350, and couldn't be happier with it.
Amazing as always guys
“Which is about 4.8 billion Canadian”
Lolllllllllll
Awesome - we need that Xylophone as a wrap up / conclusion sound every time now !!
Omg this video was great. Love your humor and musical talent lol
I'm shocked at the results but I think at the end of the day that autofocus is huge.
that and the focus breathing.
yup especially for wedding videography!!
Nice tones at the end!
Nice vid. Nice to see YYC featured! Love the Camera Store! Tamron it is.
Another entertaining review! So....would you recommend the Tamron over the Samyang 35/2.8 as well?
Which lens sounded better when hit with glockenspiel hammer? I guess we’ll never know.
This show is getting better and better.
Love the look of the S1H footage
Nice review, thanks guys. I’d like you to do one for the Sigma 1.4 Sony APS-C lenses too! (16-30-56)
Great review video as always. I'd pick up the Tamron; however, I already have a 35mm. 35mm is a great walkaround lens.
Tamron is absolutely amazing, no doubts. But autofocus speed and the size of Sony Zeiss were decisive in my choice once I was seeking for a compact lightweight travellers lens. Got a second hand in perfect state for the same price of a brand new Tamron.
A musical ear, a great eye for photography, a great commentary and of course can’t forget Jordan who keeps you always in focus.
Love your camera gear reviews and you guys are the best. Short, fun but very informative. You guy are “Shanghai Noon” in term of camera review version. 😜
love these location shoots. they show a lot of Calgary......particularly the end scene with chris playing the tubes.............nice depth of field and contrast. i'm in northern nsw, australia. high summer. bush fires everywhere. best. j.
Dear, now is DEC 12, 2021, WE are able to get zeiss at 268 including shipping cost. 2nd hand of course, it's nearly brand new, i like it so much.
Its worth mentioning that the auto-focus will likely improve over time with future firmware release in the same way the auto-focus was enhanced on the now famous Tamron 28-75.
Scott Katzenoff quite incredible that they give it to reviewers before fixing this stuff...:o
Nice video, love the look on the S1H but seems like off focus a bit on the walk and talks?
A few month ago (2023) I got the Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar 35mm 2.8 ZA used for US$215 (taxes included), I like this Lens a lot and I can recommend it !
Crucial question is, how will Tamron compare to Samyang 35/2.8?
I don't know, but I had the Samyang/Rokinon 35mm f/2.8 and while it was reasonably good, I wasn't very impressed and don't plan on buying anymore.
The Samyang formula is similar to the SonyZeiss 35 2.8 so the image quality is similar. The focus speed is near Sony made lenses. No sealing of any kind. Skinniest 35 FE.
I have the Samyang, think it's great, focus is better by the looks of it over this Tamron.
@dennytenny How do you know the IQ is not as good? Do you also have the Tamron?
Must be tough pushing those wheelbarrows full of Canadian dollars through the snow.
Great review!
We burn bills as heat for our igloos. :)
@@niccollsvideo aha, so that's why the icecaps are melting
I am curious how much sharper is this Tamron compared to the zooms?
Awesome review
Loving this tamron! I'll be grabbing one
do you think it's possible for the focusing to be made faster in a firmware update ? because it just doesn't make sense that Tamron would have a slow focusing lens when other lenses that they have are not slow.
Do you suggest this or the new Sigma 35mm f2 for a Daily-Outdoor ( trekking-climbing) use with a Sony A7ii? I actually use a Sony 24-70 F4, and the AF is good for my use.. I'd love to have a small, qualitative 35mm, and this Tamron looks perfect, but I'm afraid of the AF ( My A7ii Is not a Rocket for what concerning AF).
I think a crying Jordan calendar is in order
Nice video - thanks! I sold my Zeiss largely because of the CA. Really frustrating given the price. Now I'm looking for a good street lens for by A7Riv for a trip to Cambodia. Hope I can find a run-off between the Tamron and the Samyang.
For daily photography i got samyang 35 2.8 sony lens for around 250$ and i am considering this 35 (only when it hits some good deals), only because of the close focusing, which is tempting. For my a7R3. For the paid work (baptism, weddings,) got 35 1.4 samyang -a very sharp lens.
Has it been any firmware update or a newer version that fixes the the autofocus problem?
In Australia used market, The Sony Zeiss costs around 350-400AUD (228USD) which basically 25% cheaper than the Tamron.
It's kinda an obvious choice.
Lenses don't usually break that easily so if you can go for a good used copy without dust/moisture in the elements. Go for it.
Man I want Tamron to start making Fuji X mount lenses 😬
ReN TiL everybody wants 50mm f4 equivalent that weights more than camera:)
the colors are amazing on the S1H
Thanks
I think also you should compare Sony vs sigma (2.8 24-70) and update your site seggestion lens
Were any of the early E/FE Zeiss lenses Zeiss quality? E16-70mm, FE35mm, etc.
I wonder if Tamron can fix the AF issue with a software update. They did that with one of their other lenses. The AF issue will be a deal breaker for some potential buyers.
I think this is a awesome deal for someone getting into full frame. A used a7 or a7II and a few of these lenses would be less than 2,000
I have the Zeiss and I love it!
I find the image quality of the Tamron surprisingly good for this price point! If the 20 mm can come up with similar quality, I know what lens to buy next …
What about distorsion? A the resolution part of the video, it was more than conspicuous at the corner zooms. Chris smartly evaded that subject.
is the sound of focus noticable for tamron?
I’m a telephoto shooter : 70-200 and 200-600 lenses, but wanted a cheap, compact sharp portrait lens for general walk about photos and this Tamron has been perfect.
As you mentioned in the video - focus speed is poor but everything else is great and I love the lens hood design too 👍🏻
Noct weight comparisons 💯💯💯
I would love to see you review the 24mm
I am wondering how much of a resolution edge the Tamron has over the Tamron 28-75/2.8.
For real. It's so big, you barely get a size advantage haha.
Wabajak13 good point haha:)
I can see that the fast focus of the Zeiss would be an advantage for still photography, but is jarring in video, where I preferred the Tamron, which melted from one focus point to another.
The Rokinon / Samyang 35mm 2.8 is awesome too, and much smaller and lighter than the Tamron, and lighter than the Zeiss too - 85g for the Rokinon vs 130g for the Zeiss and 210g for the Tamron.
Those exchange rate calculations made me spit my coffee all over my computer monitor! "4.6 billion Canadian" Lol
I am just getting into photography I was taking pictures with a 13 year old point and shoot, so I took the plunge and bought a Canon SL2 with the kit lens EF-S 18-55mm IS STM Len so with this said what would you suggest for taking pictures and video at disney we are heading down there in early January. The camera store guy suggested 35mm 2.8 macro I did some reading and there were more lens that came up, they are EF 50mm F 1.8 stm, this len I heard mixed views on, the EF Stm 10 - 18 F-4.5 - 5.6 , 18 - 135mm stm I am going to take mostly videos and some pictures.
You should always use the cymbals for comparison verdict sound! :D
Hi Chris Please review Tamron 24mm f2.8 Thanks
still rocking the 35 1.4 ZA. only problem is. alittle big n heavy. but loving the quality.
Love you Chris
Hey Jordan and Chris can you shoot a BTS video of how you shoot DP review TV from scripting to delivering to youtube?
Hi, do you suggest this on an "old" Sony A7II? It looks like a perfect lens for me (travel, trekking, climbing) due to its lightweight and optical performance.. but I've read some reviews talking about slow AF... Actually I have a 24-70 F4, can this Tamron AF be compared with my actual lens, or is it really slower?
I'm wondering to buy this the new Sigma 35mm F2, or the Sony 35mm F 1.8.. I would love the Tamron for the 2:1 magnification ratio, the price (I will use it during trekking session, or Bike Travelling, so a small and cheap lens is best) and for the complete tropicalization.. I'm only a bit boubtful for the AF.. (I will use it for stills at 90%)
I also like hiking but what I took during those trips are usually things that don't move. Slow AF doesn't matter in those cases. Ask yourself, do you need to take photos of fast moving objects a lot? On the other hand, macro ability is an absolute killing feature for me. Taking pics of small flowers, leaves, berries on the way...
Nice pipes at the end was it Christmas bells Chris?
So which better , sony or thamron bro
If I can get a Zeiss 35mm at 300 euro (new one is 629euro here), should I buy Zeiss or Tamron?
The Sony Sonnar T* FE 35mm f/2.8 ZA Lens now sells for $598 new in the USA.
You should have included the Samyang 35 2.8 ! It's smaller and cheaper than both!
3:39 What is that pattern on the roof of that building? (Tamron lens)
Probably interpolation/demosaicing artifacts. When the lens' image detail gets finer than the sensor's color array, the software can get confused when interpreting it (usually only a problem on sensors without extra low pass filters like the a7R line). This might show that the Tamron is more detailed there, though artifacts in an image might make that a negative...
can someone explain to me why some have rectangular front glass and some are round ?
nevermind its the lenshood ... right ?
Can you update firmware on the tamron?
Great review, Chris! I love Tamron lenses.
You look really handsome in the video!!!
Haha 8:59 A star wipe would have been perfect 👌
the currency conversion killed mee omgggggg sooo accurate xD
I am not really that interested in the Tamron 35 2.8, but i want to see how it performs as an indicator for the upcoming 20mm 2.8. That is a really interesting Lens. We already have a lot of options for 35mm primes on sony, but when it comes to uwa primes there are not that many choices, especially not a lot of compact and light ones.
I hope you will review the Tamron 20mm 2.8 when it is released, to me it is the most interesting option of that trio of lenses.
Would love to see a showdown between the budget 2.8 primes of Tamron vs Samyang/Rokinon :)
Chris K yeah that would have been the logical comparison I think
For the focus test you have to be at the sâme distance of the subject to compare them. Because the tamron has à better minimum focus distance, the lens have more course when you focus far and near.
I'ved owned both Zeiss and Samyang with the latter being the best bang for your $, cheaper and smaller too making it a better travel lens.
I know it is a not fair comparison but the Tamron 35mm 2.8 looks to be the same size as the RF 35mm 1.8 while being slower. Different camera mounts though
Can you do that with a Big objectif
I am surprised the rokinon/samyang 35 2.8 isn't compared here, since they are similar pricing to the tamron
A lot cheaper than the Tamron here in the UK
Yeah it would be a fairer comparison although most people who have compared the Samyang to the Sony Zeiss say the Sony is not worth the extra. The Samyang looks very sharp with great colors. I need another prime to go with my 55 1.8 Sony Zeiss but unlike the 55 the 35 does not seem to be as highly rated?
Where was this video shot?
I'd have liked to see some notes on distortion...
Another good comparison would be against the Samyang/Rokinon 35mm F2.8
Jose Antonio Alvarado yup, that’s what this video should have been comparing. Literally no one buys the Sony 2.8 at full retail price these days
If you use AF-C instead of AF-S, which focus faster?
Jeff Luo
i’ve got the zeiss. AF-C uses phase detect AF so it snaps into focus quicker.
AF-S uses contrast detect for better accuracy so it has to hunt a little, hence being a little slower.
@@gohrhyyan5483 I meant which lens focus faster in AF-C mode, Zeiss or Tamron? This video only tested the AF-S mode. Maybe the Tamron could do better in AFC.
Maybe you should do reviews of the Samyang 35mm f/2.8 and the Samyang 35mm f/1.4 (they are both excellent in my opinion).... Chris will love that.
Zeiss has great AF, coating and is absolutely tiny. However Tamron is priced excitingly, macro capabilities are the unexpected plus and weather-sealing. All it all, it seems Tamron really did nicely here again. I'm sure they'll sell many of these, for good reason.
Jordan can add model to his list of skills like actor and video producer. The lens appears to do camera based firmware updates, so hopefully they will improve the autofocus situation.
Great video as always but I like my little Sony 35 zeiss
OMG Chris, how can you say that USD to CAD conversion without bursting a laugh? hahaha
Had to return the tamron 24/2.8 since the af on my a7ii was horribly slow... What a bummer, but I know it would annoy me when using it.
Sorry to hear that. Did you try another copy or look online for other users with the same issue?
@@natashanicole7408 I've read from two other users about the same issues. Also the barrell distortion on the 24mm was crazy and despite it being easy to correct, it's an optical flaw and was the second reason for me to return it.
A lot of SonyZeiss 35 2.8 lenses on the UK secondhand market at the moment. Average pricing is around £350-375 so close to the new price of the Tamron.
I never got the 35mm 85mm combo. The first is never wide enough, and the other is never long enough. 28mm and 105mm is my dream prime combo.
Im very happy with my tamron 35mm 2.8 . autofocus is slow but i never really shoot fast pace anyways !! But the macro 1.1 😍 Can’t beat it for the price!! Very please !! 🤙🏻
Macro is 1:2 not 1:1
i almost made my decision for the tamron until that AF test....huge difference, zeiss it is.
Zeif or Gm ?