Thanks for sharing I have one of those in India and managed to start it again yesterday after 30 years since it was last used (forgotten in the garage)
I don't think your off on the 8 to 1 mix. I think that I heard that on the old Odd Jobs channel. He ran a 2 hp Elgin. I have both. They do run nice. I have the 2.5 hp water cooled one too. And a 5, 6 and 7.5 hp. I did see a 1-1/4 hp Wizzard in a antique store window in Beacon NY a couple of years ago. It was indentical as the Elgin but white or cream coler. He wanted a lot of money for it. They made a 3 hp water cooled one in the 40s too. I need one of them. Thanks for the cool videos.
I have that exact motor one of the first antique Motors I bought back in the '80s bought it from the original owner all he said was he took it halfway across Lake Freeman and it quit and they had to row home and he never used it again was in a nice little custom-made wood carrying box. West Bend bought the remnants of the Kissel car company they were making outboards selling under the water witch name I believe for Sears.
@@GearHeadJP don't know what was wrong when I got it we cleaned the gas tank in the carburetor clean the points in the spark plug in it seemed to take right off and I run it probably 6 hours over the years and it's always just hums along.
I've got one just like that! It's pretty clean and original. Only thing is, someone drilled a hole to adjust the low speed, or rather knawed a hole! I'm going to try and fill it because I want to repaint it. They are awesome little motors!
how do you get the flywheel off the clean the point(s)? i just dont want to jack anything up lol. also, do you happen to know what kind of compression numbers i should be looking for? great video thank you!
It’s been too long since I did this one to remember if it had threaded holes in the flywheel to use a bolt type puller on. If it does, I definitely recommend a bolt type puller. If it doesn’t, I would gently apply prying pressure under the flywheel with a pry bar and then hit the crankshaft squarely with a heavy brass hammer with a sacrificial nut on the crank threads. I’m not crazy about the latter method as it stresses the rod journal area of the crank. Do not ever use a jaw type puller as it will most certainly bend the aluminum flywheel. This engine had 50psi compression and the most I’ve heard of one having is 60psi. Keep in mind that these are low compression engines and everyone’s gauge reads a little differently.
@@GearHeadJP sweet thank you, unfortunately there are no bolt holes to speak of. I’m getting 45psi turning the flywheel by hand so seems like I’m ok. Thank you again, and dreading pulling the flywheel lol
@@GearHeadJP hey! I got it running, I think all it needed was a new condenser, but I put in a new spark plug and wire and completely tore down and cleaned the carb. I have a couple questions though, 1. What fuel lox should I run? Guy at the parts store said the old motors should be 32:1 the decal on the motor says for general use use 8:1 and 24:1 for trolling. Ideally I would like to run as lean a mixture as possible because I don’t want to leave an oil slick in my wake. 2. Any tips on how to adjust the fuel so it has less affinity for being choked? 3. When it runs it seems to push air out of the mating surface between the bottom unit and the exhaust, it seems to be lacking a gasket but i was uncomfortable taking the gear off the drive shaft on the bottom to pull it off. Is this a bog problem? finally, if i had fuel leaking from the exhaust that is most likely the fault of the float in the carb right? anyway you don't need to read all that or respond, but it's much appreciated if you do :)
Cool. I'm a little concerned about the fact that the pull starter looks like it might be rattling around eccentrically a little bit. I wonder if it has crankshaft main bearings that are getting a little sloppy? Did you take the engine apart to check it for clearances?
@M-n-Vacafornia thanks for your concern. This engine must have been dropped on its head at some point in its life. Both the sheave cup and flywheel nut, which are aluminum, are a little bent. I checked the crank and it is true.
Crazy gas/oil ratio right!? I think the math came out to 11:1 according to the operating instructions, but in a rush I used the 8:1 line on my mixing cup. She roles coal like diesel with the hammer down. 😂
Thanks for sharing I have one of those in India and managed to start it again yesterday after 30 years since it was last used (forgotten in the garage)
That’s amazing!
Such a sweet little motor you're a lucky man
Yes I am!
Wow !! Nice😅 little motor!
Thanks! 👍
I don't think your off on the 8 to 1 mix. I think that I heard that on the old Odd Jobs channel. He ran a 2 hp Elgin. I have both. They do run nice. I have the 2.5 hp water cooled one too. And a 5, 6 and 7.5 hp. I did see a 1-1/4 hp Wizzard in a antique store window in Beacon NY a couple of years ago. It was indentical as the Elgin but white or cream coler. He wanted a lot of money for it. They made a 3 hp water cooled one in the 40s too. I need one of them. Thanks for the cool videos.
It sounds like you’ve got a great collection. Art, from the Odd Jobs channel was a great influence on me and I never met him.
great little machine
Yes indeed!
I have that exact motor one of the first antique Motors I bought back in the '80s bought it from the original owner all he said was he took it halfway across Lake Freeman and it quit and they had to row home and he never used it again was in a nice little custom-made wood carrying box. West Bend bought the remnants of the Kissel car company they were making outboards selling under the water witch name I believe for Sears.
I wonder why he got stuck. It seems like a great running engine with little that could fail on it.
@@GearHeadJP don't know what was wrong when I got it we cleaned the gas tank in the carburetor clean the points in the spark plug in it seemed to take right off and I run it probably 6 hours over the years and it's always just hums along.
I've got one just like that! It's pretty clean and original. Only thing is, someone drilled a hole to adjust the low speed, or rather knawed a hole! I'm going to try and fill it because I want to repaint it. They are awesome little motors!
It is definitely worth fixing.
I'm looking for the carburetor cover for the 2 hp air-cooled version if anyone has one. Thank you
Nice!
Thanks!
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how do you get the flywheel off the clean the point(s)? i just dont want to jack anything up lol. also, do you happen to know what kind of compression numbers i should be looking for? great video thank you!
It’s been too long since I did this one to remember if it had threaded holes in the flywheel to use a bolt type puller on. If it does, I definitely recommend a bolt type puller. If it doesn’t, I would gently apply prying pressure under the flywheel with a pry bar and then hit the crankshaft squarely with a heavy brass hammer with a sacrificial nut on the crank threads. I’m not crazy about the latter method as it stresses the rod journal area of the crank. Do not ever use a jaw type puller as it will most certainly bend the aluminum flywheel.
This engine had 50psi compression and the most I’ve heard of one having is 60psi. Keep in mind that these are low compression engines and everyone’s gauge reads a little differently.
@@GearHeadJP sweet thank you, unfortunately there are no bolt holes to speak of.
I’m getting 45psi turning the flywheel by hand so seems like I’m ok.
Thank you again, and dreading pulling the flywheel lol
Take your time, be gentle. It’ll run!
@@GearHeadJP hey! I got it running, I think all it needed was a new condenser, but I put in a new spark plug and wire and completely tore down and cleaned the carb. I have a couple questions though,
1. What fuel lox should I run? Guy at the parts store said the old motors should be 32:1 the decal on the motor says for general use use 8:1 and 24:1 for trolling. Ideally I would like to run as lean a mixture as possible because I don’t want to leave an oil slick in my wake.
2. Any tips on how to adjust the fuel so it has less affinity for being choked?
3. When it runs it seems to push air out of the mating surface between the bottom unit and the exhaust, it seems to be lacking a gasket but i was uncomfortable taking the gear off the drive shaft on the bottom to pull it off. Is this a bog problem?
finally, if i had fuel leaking from the exhaust that is most likely the fault of the float in the carb right?
anyway you don't need to read all that or respond, but it's much appreciated if you do :)
@@GearHeadJP I tested mine reading 70psi, faulty gauge?
Cool. I'm a little concerned about the fact that the pull starter looks like it might be rattling around eccentrically a little bit. I wonder if it has crankshaft main bearings that are getting a little sloppy? Did you take the engine apart to check it for clearances?
@M-n-Vacafornia thanks for your concern. This engine must have been dropped on its head at some point in its life. Both the sheave cup and flywheel nut, which are aluminum, are a little bent. I checked the crank and it is true.
What paint did you use please?
I didn’t paint it. The previous owner did. But I have used Vintage Outboard Paint many times on other engines with great success.
It needs bigger propeller
😂
8 to1 oil 🛢 mix never heard of that before, I have ⚀ 1 like it but never needed to be restored. 😮 oh yeah baby 🤱.!!!😮😮😮
Crazy gas/oil ratio right!? I think the math came out to 11:1 according to the operating instructions, but in a rush I used the 8:1 line on my mixing cup. She roles coal like diesel with the hammer down. 😂
I asked about the paint but I initially missed that it was already painted. 😊