Yamaha's ($499.00) Fully Weighted Keyboard - P45B (Full Review)
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I did a video of this instrument at the 2020 NAMM Show, but I thought I'd take another look at it here at the studio, and see what it really is like.
A slight correction here. I said that the headphone jack was in mono, but meant to say it just has a single head phone jack for use for headphones, external speakers and recording.
Very good correction. I was like 🤔
Hi. I have a P-35 (which is a "lesser" model) and the headphone jack is stereo which I run very successfully through an external stereo amp and speakers (using an adapter branching into R & L entering the amp). We use it to accompany a choir and (for the money) it sounds great. Very happy with it. Thanks for your review.
ThePianoforever I love your reviews, very professional and informative.... without the gimmicks.
Can I buy a three pedal system for this digital piano?
Is the p45b the same as only p45?
I worked at a retailer for awhile, and I will absolutely concur on Yamaha. Across the board, on nearly every product, at each price point, they have quality that is comparable or exceeding the competition. Very well-made, and if you care for it, it’ll last a long time.
The cardboard in the middle is that you don't accidentally cut too deep in the packaging.
Thank you.
I think it's just to make sure you can't peek the piano if the tape is transparent.
Same thought, brilliant idea when you have your keyboard straight underneath.
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It's amazing just how many customers come back complaining about the deep scratch down the middle of their purchase, and have no idea how it got there !? Despite the fact that the carton clearly tells you not to use a knife to open the box !?
Does this come with a leather jacket?
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Nice review, but it needs to be said that the P45 can easily be used for gigs. The headphone jack is a STEREO output, so you need a cable with a 1/4 stereo jack in one end which divides into L+R jacks in the other end. Sounds great on stage, though you're going to need monitors. The simple design is kind of classy...not all those buttons which make keyboards look like the cockpit in an airplane.
Thank you for posting. I was thinking about getting it to practice accompanying myself and take it out busking.
Got a used P45 a month ago for my son. We have an upright acoustic, but he wanted a Rhodes sound and a sustain pedal, headphone jack, and also have keys that felt sort of real. Oh, and 88 keys! This works. It also has midi connection and I was able to hook up an iPad using the camera adapter and a usb midi cable and then try out some midi apps like NeoSoulKeys and a grand piano app. The sound then comes out of the iPad head phone jack. Or, with a laptop and midi software this is a great keyboard for anything you want, and used this way you have the p125 key bed in a lower cost keyboard.
The key settings are important! Ours came with the velocity sensitivity off, and I did not know it had reverb! Thanks!
I came to this channel to get a good review for the P125, and for some reason I keep watching these even though I've already bought it xD
same
exactly same
How’s the keyboard?
@@Muzart i luv it
Yep! I also got the p125 yet I'm still watching at least 3 of these videos a day just coz I find it all so interesting. All the subtle differences really do add up and you can start to see price differences.
I actually really like the simplicity of the interface... all those buttons are distracting for me.
Yeah true and I dont really need much more stuff other than the piano itself and metronome too
I have only ever accidentally used different settings on my digital pianos, the only thing I ever use is the volume haha.
@@Deeznutsmynamejeff21 same
I advise learning the manual, or atleast what you want to know. The p125 has some very surprising reverb settings. Put the reverb type to concert hall or chamber and put the reverb depth to max..... sounds insane.
Happy to see Henry Bowers getting into a nicer hobby
That made me laugh harder than it should have
Reminds me of a young Eric Christian Olsen
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A few months ago so I could surprise my now wife (as of Feb 29th) at our wedding by singing a song at the reception. I taught myself to play piano. Just 2 simple songs Maybe I’m Amazed & My Love both by McCartney.
In choosing a keyboard I’d narrowed the selection down to the P-45 & P-125. The P-125 hands down has a better sound of a concert grand piano which was what I was looking for. The Rhodes voice is how I ended up adding the 2nd song My Love.
Since I’ve seen your review of the P-515 I really would like to try it out. But I didn’t find one anywhere here in the little town of Baton Rouge. But if the store I bought it from would let me trade up I’d pay the extra 1000 bucks.
By the way both songs were a smashing success and tremendous hit. There were lots of tears which was the desired response I was going for. My son played the guitar solo and daughter’s granddaughters step daughters and one grandson 8 total came in at the chorus like a flash mob shocking everyone.
I’m retired which is how I was able to learn to play piano. Now my P-125 remains out and no longer lives under a guest bed. I’m continuing to learn and having a great time doing so.
Our honeymoon was postponed now for a year. We are taking a Viking cruise and one of the stops is in Vienna. Can’t wait to play a Bösendorfer in their showroom.
How do you like the P-125? I just ordered mine!
Samuel B how do you like yours? Im about to order one hehe
If you are interested in the p 515, check with Lafargue piano in Metarie, LA. I think that they have them in stock. I am from Louisiana, so that is why I am recommending them.
All the hits. This was my first keyboard. It served me well for my first 18 months of piano. I traded it in and upgraded to the FP-90 thereafter.
The p45 key noises?
I know RUclips is getting smarter when it recommends a video like this! Interesting and informative video with helpful samples of music. I then went to your channel to see what to watch next. You've already convinced me that I should spend a little more money and get a Yamaha P125 or something else in that price range. Thanks!
A terrific no nonsense review. Just the facts and useful demos and opinions. One of your best! (and I love the piece at the end!)
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The tone voice generator is an older technology, AWM (advanced wave modelling). This is the reason that it sounds different than the p 125/121 which uses the CFIIIs sampling which is newer technology
The cardboard strip on the top in the packing is to protect the instrument when you use a knife to open the box.
James Pavel Shawcross, (@2:30), the long, narrow strip of cardboard is there to protect the contents from razor knife incursion. It is held securely in place, directly under the 2 widest flaps' meeting point, by correspondingly sized indentions on the top of the foam blocks at either ends of the box.
Seven years ago when I first started playing piano, this was my first digital piano. Served me well. For my professional playing (in church), I now use a Casio PX-5S.
How long did it last you?
The P45 was an option back when our church purchased a digital piano. We went with the P105 because of the line out option as well as the built in piano sounds seemed better on the P105. We are very pleased with the piano as it’s been played very hard (Pentecostal) over the past 6+ years and still feels and sounds the way it did when new. Very durable!
Why the 105 and not the 115 or 125?
@@GamingShiiep Is that a joke? The lineage is 105 -> 115 -> 125, presumably the next one will be p135, he said they had this thing for 6 years. Also I notice there's a lot of P125 on sale atm (I just got one) so I suspect they will bring out the next incarnation in the next 12 months
I always used a Kurzweil PC88 for gigs, it is a lovely piano, but quite heavy to be lugging around. When my spare PC88 bit the dust, I bought a P45 to replace it, and it does the job, while being much lighter to haul around. I also bought one for my grandson's high school graduation last year, and my daughter bought the same unit for her violin teaching studio.
I have just started studing to learn playing the piano, after watching videos about learning to play the piano for many years, because of this locking down period, and suddenly I discovered something that no video said: to learn to play the piano you need to learn to play it without watching the keys, simply because the piano is played by two hands and if you watch to one hand you cannot watch to the other one!
it’s nice to be able to play w/o watching your hands but you should use every applicable sense you have available, especially while learning new music. yes, it’s difficult to see both hands while playing & you will need to look at the music as you go along but you shouldn’t stare at any one place all the time. you need to train yourself to scan around as necessary. once you memorize music you are free to look elsewhere.
Yeah, no the reason is that you can’t take your eyes off the sheet you are reading. In fact, you must learn to read ahead of where you are playing. But, that is sight reading, where there is all too often no accounting for theory. If you know some theory, then look at you hands as one and remember there are only 12 keys (a famous piano star told me this in a recent RUclips ad).
God bless you James. Thanks and continue the good work!
Thats so cool, keep going 😁👍🏼
I love how a person like you reviews the pianos.
Thanks! 😃
The small cardboard at the very beginning is just to protect the piano in case somebody inserts a knife deep from above to open the box
I happen to own the P35, the predecessor of the P45. I think, it's absolutely fantastic for the price. Two comments: 1) I’m using a 6.3mm-stereo cable to connect it to i.e. an amp - of course it’s stereo! 2) Besides playing single sounds you can also layer sounds by pressing the Grand Piano-Button and two „Sound-keys“. I especially like the Grand Piano layered with E-Piano 2 ;-)
$499 for a beginner piano? the world truly is an expensive place
Yep I’m in college and bought this now I’m halfway to being broke
Really? I live in quite poor country and every kid have an iphone, airpods, Ps or xbox, tons of crap that costs way more than 499 and do not really need.
For something this nice, $499 is a great deal. Yamaha makes a high quality product whether it be guitars, pianos, or motorcycles.
The keys are like butter with a rich sound....definetely worth buying.
It is beginner in the sense that it's at the bottom of the price range for full size weighted keyboards. You could get a beginner grand piano too. If you want a "beginner" keyboard, you can get one for $69 all day.
18:00 Pirates of the Caribbean?
Nice review. I bought this pisno for my kid, and i think it's a great piano to start with. Keep up the good work.
Good to see that you are putting the lock down to goo use James. Stay safe.
Hi James, I wanted to thank you for helping me decide whether or not to upgrade from my Yamaha P-45 to a P-125. For quite a while, I thought that since I was running my keys through a Line 6 POD which had stereo outputs, I wouldn't really need an instrument with stereo outputs, but I'm finding the superiority and extra features of the P-125 to be so enticing that simply playing my P-45 feels like i'm settling for a poor imitation of the real thing. That being said, I definitely agree with you saying the P-45 is an excellent beginner to mid-level piano, it certainly helped me grow as a pianist in the two years I've had it, and its helped me get creative with how I can tweak my live sound and really dial in the different tones and combinations of features like layering, balance, and octaves. I'm excited to try out the P-125's split tone function and hear how it sounds through my amp. I'll know i'll be kicking myself for not upgrading sooner!
Hi, Thanks for sharing your experience, do you think P45B was a good decision or is it quite limitting to after few months of practice? We're looking for a entry level Piano or a Piano aimed keyboard for a beginner. In fact my for my girl friend. She's been playing keyboard sometime ago. So, our concern was also if a P45B would be limitting too soon. Would it be better to start off with a PSR-EW300 76 keyboard which we initially planned. It's aimed at beginner paino players and then later we planned to upgrade to good piano in 3-4 years. But now, we've found a bargain for P45B, only a 100$ more than PSR-EW300. Do you think, it's better to go with this? How was it for your beginner 2 years?
Vaga_bonder for a beginner don’t go for anything less than a p45 especially if you plan to upgrade. You need those weighted keys more than you realize to start building technique
You played that Debussy piece (can't remember the title) beautifully. You're a fine musician.
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Very good review as usual, keep it up! P125 is the better choice here, better sounds, line out...Price difference is negligible imho, when you buy any musical instrument that's going to last you years to come...not even 150 difference with the p45 here in the EU. Anyways, love these reviews, well done.
i really appreciate you and like you, i really like Yamaha. My teacher had 2 steinways and I had nightmares of playing a whole piece and not hearing anything because it was like chopping wood to get a sound. My piano teacher had a Steinway from the 30's - wonderful piano. Have a wonderful day !!!!!
I think the reason the samples sound different is a difference in the amplification/speaker setup on the P45B. It's one of the things all the keyboard manufacturers cut cost on to keep the price down. One hundred dollars more buys a lot of fidelity in that price range. This would also be why there isn't separate left and right channel line outs.
I will definitely consider this one. Thank you very much for the honest review. Can you also review Alesis instruments? Because every other reviewer says pretty good things about them.
Any chance you’ll review the yamaha montage 8 or modx8? Curious to what you think about them before I potentially buy one. Love your reviews man. I trust them
I bought this over the 125 because of the clean look, I really like that. It's one of the few digital pianos that has an almost clean front, back, sides etc. For sounds I recordings I use midi... BTW I am not a pianist, wanted a piano to play in the living room.
samiebuka that was a mistake the p125 is so much better dont judge by design
Excellent video and explanations of this keyboard. THANK YOU!
I have a problem, if I press with equal amount of strength on bass notes and same strength on the area near middle C, I get really loud left hand and very quiet right hand. I watch vids with this piano, and I don’t see people use much strength to play with right hand, so is it manufacture’s problem ?
“I believe “ this was a great review. Thanks a lot !
That's a cool piece at the end! Good job :)
you are a cool cat. love your love for pianos dude. and you play so very well!
It would be a real pleasure if you would review the KAWAI CA99
Thank you James, I bought P45B yesterday! 😁
Sobhan Samantaray how was it? Is it heavy to carry around?
looking at this too... how was it?
Sorry for the late reply. It's about 11 kilograms
I honestly agree with James :)
2:19 the long cardboard is there to prevent damages to the piano from cutter blade upon all RUclips unboxings.
Nothing wrong with being honest, I'm not sure why people or so quick to shoot down an honest opinion . Good job
Oh my god, what was that second song you played called? I wanna learn it 😭😭 someone tell me.
i have the same question
If I put the headphones on, does the sound come out from the piano? Or just the headphones?
The most popular digital piano in the world. Every musicians and music student have at least one
Excellent video, thank you for this!
Did you find a problem with the sustain?(without pedal). I find that it cannot sistain a full note (4/4). :/
I get that features are often held back on lower cost instruments by manufacturers to not eat into their other higher priced products but one headphone jack on the back (of all places) is a design flaw/poor user experience in my view. At least put the headphone jack on the front!
I understand the customer annoyance, but that probably is the best placement if you want are cheaper instrument that's also light and balanced in weight. The back is where everything else is on the motherboard/PCB.
Ei KaRumba, I believe you are correct that this was done to get people to move to a more expensive product, but in all honesty this is likely a product that does not make them any money. It is just there for the customer that needs a very basic keyboard and the one really good thing about it is that it comes with the same action as the P125.
That was a very good review as usual, James ;) Would you do a review of the Kawai CA58?
James could you please review korg d1 against FP30, they are almost at same price range!
It's OK. It'll hold up but the internal sounds are on the low-end of Yamaha keyboards. Your test piece did sound pretty nice on it.
Great presentation style. Very helpful. Thanks!
I have a yamaha allegro tenor sax and I really like it. Yamaha has really good products
I have a P105 (older model) and is very happy with it. Agree with the music disk, too short but I added a piece of Perspex for single sheets. . This has the same sounds as the P105
how is this compare to Korg LP380? can you tell me please? thanks
I bought the P45 recently. While the action is lovely, the sound I find just about adequate. Obviously the sound is much better than the keyboards at half the price, but I do wish I had paid a bit more for a better sound. To me, the sound is quite fuzzy and metallic (even with good quality headphones), the top quarter of the notes are quiet and thin, and there's a key or two near the middle that make a weird jarring sound. If you play too many notes at once, the sound seems a bit distorted/unclear (perhaps that's the limited polyphony?). The FC3A pedal you can buy with the half-sustain function does improve things a bit, but that is another £80GBP. I think enjoying the sound really is important as a beginner, because if you don't, you are not inspired to practice, and therefore slows your progress/you quit. I went with the P45 as it seems more reliable than the other brands in its price bracket with regards to reported technical issues etc. It is ok, but I am already looking forward to an upgrade. Think I'll try a Kawai next.
I think Kawai are more expensive but if you can afford it I think its a very good option, some say Kawai have some of the best piano sounds in the market. Did you had any problems playing trills in your yamaha p45?, because I heard its difficult to practice advanced pieces with this digital piano and Im thinking of buying it.
@@BigBoy-cb5nu I am so sorry I only just saw this comment, I didn't get a notification for it! I have never had a problem with the few trills I occasionally come across, but I don't do anything too advanced so I am not too sure about that. I have heard that sound-wise it is limited for advanced pieces, though I thought that was due to the small polyphony rather than action. I definitely find the sound gets a bit weird when the number of notes start building up. Which piano did you end up going with?
Can I use keyscape or any other vst standalone with Yamaha p45 easily?
Between P45 and casio px s1000 , Wich one is better in Price and sound ?
Awesome review (as usual) -
Would be curious to hear your opinion on the Alesis Recital Pro as a budget conscious option
Great review, I have the P-125. I think that the middle C area is too bright on the P-125. What do you think?
the P45B may have the same sound samples as that of P125’s but since the former is a cheaper version, its speakers may be a tad smaller than the latter’s, hence the tinier and less-full bodied sound. have you noticed a difference when it’s played side by side with P125 over a good set of speakers?
No the P45 sound samples are not as good, but very good for the price.
@@ThePianoforever It is the fact that the p 125 uses a better tone generator than the p 45. The tone generator in the p 45 is an older technology.
Which is better to get? The Yamaha P45b or the Kawai Es110?
You should be able to use a Y cable with any headphone jack.
Hey! Just to let you know, the strip of cardboard running across the top is to prevent product damage, which is partly what the box flaps of smaller boxes provide. Though, on larger boxes it saves a lot of material to just leave a strip like that instead of making rediculously long cardboard flaps haha.
Could you review the CVP-809? That is the opposite end of the digital spectrum (really expensive), but I would be curious what you think of that action as compared to an acoustic instrument.
Which is better for you? Kawai Es110 or Yamaha P45?
What is the name of the test piece? I enjoy the videos. Thank you for making them. I just bought a used Yamaha P-105 and I really love it. I'm so excited to be learning and to have access to such great information online.
Please what is the name of the song on 9:20
Thanks for your reviews, much appreciated in this dark times! I am very interested in the twice as expensive Yamaha Ypg S54 piano! Please review this piano, and is it twice as good as the entry level portable pianos?
Best wishes!
It is very hard for something to be “Twice as good” as something that is already pretty good if your a beginner-intermediate go for the p45, if you are more advanced and don’t care about the price go for it.
is there an option for a sustain pedal? Great video by the way!
2:16 this piece of cardboard protects the instrument from your knife ;)
How does the P45 and thePSR EW410 compare or differ?
clothearednincompoop Thank you, I am a total novice. I received an EW410 for Christmas and I am relearning to play. I took lessons as a kid and now 70 years later I am determined to play something again. I am having a blast! But as far as technology, types of instruments and nomenclature of products, I am at a loss !
P125 has four dynamic levels of sampling as Yamaha says. P45 is quite old for now and I think its sound set is rather similar to P115 or even P105 which should be three dynamic levels instead of four. Maybe P105 was released together with P35. But those church organs are still like the same :)
Thanks. Best review out there
James, Have you reviewed any of the Artesia digital pianos? Any impressions you can share? Thank you!
Great review! I'm still using an Alesis QS8 as my main, but only as a midi controller for VST.
Hi James - what would you recommend for authentic grand piano sounds and a decent keyboard action, for the money:
Kawai ES110?
Yamaha P45B?
I own a Yamaha CP300 and a Casio PX-S3000 (as with you, I don’t like the keybed action); however, looking for a smaller footprint 88-key piano type keyboard that I can use in my studio for quick reference. Thoughts?
Dav
I will review the Yamaha P45 VS ES110 soon.
@@ThePianoforever Thank you , James! That would be terrific. Keep up the great work with your RUclips channel. Thx.
BTW, did you already review the ES110 (standalone review)? If yes, i can't seem to locate on your channel; could you send the link?
What are your thoughts of the Korg D1 and its RH3 action?
It's a little more expensive than the Yamaha P45(about the price of Yamaha P125), but people say that Korg's RH3 action is wonderful.. and superior than the one found in both Yamaha's P45 and P125.
I am very upset because the digital piano i have been given had horribly weighted keys. I have a very light touch and am old can I get rid ir the weight factor?
The weight of the keys can not be changed on a digital piano.
Love your Treble Test Piece! Have you posted sheet music anywhere for that? Would love to learn to play it.
Sorry, no
@@ThePianoforever Thanks for the reply! Great piece and really enjoy your videos. I've been hunting for new keyboard and I know 100% that your reviews have kept me from making a few mistakes.
ThePianoforever hello , wath is the name of the piece you play , thanks and saludos cordiales from Spain
Could you consider sell the treble and bass test pieces scores? They are so wonderful 😀
Great review! Have you done one for the relatively new Roland FP-10? Thanks!
which a better to buy roland's fp30, kawai es110, or the yamaha p45, i am so confused right now! but since i keep watching videos about affordable piano's, the kawai es110 seems to be on the top!
I will do a review of all three for you. I have a few more I must do first, but I will place it on the list.
Nice reviews. Any thoughts on the clavinova line? I have an old DGX-230 and want to upgrade as the key action is not the best - keys are much heavier towards the back.
Yamaha Digital Piano P-45B vs casio px 1000 ....? who win ?
Hi James, any chance you could make a review of the Korg B2 to see how it stacks up against the Yamaha P-45?
Another great video!
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the Korg D1,
I've been told its very well priced for the Keybed but I can't try one out at the moment (for obvious reasons)
If you know something about electronics and don't care about a warranty, you can open up the case and add a line out jack to the keyboard. The parts will be less than $10 and you will need a drill and a soldering iron.
I find the lack of outputs (and midi) slightly annoying, but it’s not a big thing for the kind o piano gigs I usually do (that is, almost always with the piano being an additional instrument, the main vein organ, or with me as singer first, accompanied by my own piano playing): I just either bring a DI and plug in the mixer from that or, for the smaller gigs, plug in a small mixer directly.
The demo pieces are actually pretty fun for kids, I’ve found; I totally agree about the EP (and, IMHO, DX7 too) sound: it just doesn’t cut the way it should. The strings are fine but far from being great.
but doees it have midi or usb-midi output?
__s yes I own a P45
Are you aware of any high quality keyboards or digital pianos that will show you the chord that you are playing on the LCD screen?
Is it has rhythm like bosa nova, samba, rumba, polka etc
Is it possible to create MIDI file with this piano ¿
How did you set up to record with this? Headphone jack and an adapter to quarter inch? Just got one and need to know.
Sounds great dude.
I believe it was headphone jack to spliter to headphones / recorder. I would buy the P125 over this one for the extra $150.00 so you could record directly.
What piano will be better from p125 ?
Hi, I'm again posting a similar question to what i asked a p45b user. We're looking for a piano or a keyboard aimed at piano beginners. Our choice was PSR-EW300, 76 key keyboard. Then, after we grow out of it, we will upgrade to better digital piano in 2-4 years. My girl friend also has played keyboard before. But, now we've found a deal on p45B, only 100$ more than a EW300. Would it be too much of a big deal for learning piano to play on a keyboard? Or would the learning process and time will be enhanced by using a P45B like model?
The EW300 has features the P45 does not have, like the chord accompaniment, the music tutorials, and other such learning devices. The P45 is a very basic experience, with the bare essentials for creating great music. If you feel you need these features, the EW300 might be better for you, but based on experience I'd still suggest the P45. The playing experience will be considerably better with its weighted action, versus the EW300's touch responsive keybed.
@@ThePianoforever Thank you so much the quick reply :-) Honestly speaking we had a set budget. We'd not have thought p45, unless this deal. Of course, it might be more fun with the ew300 keyboard, but we were not necessarily looking for the fatures. We were more like, if the Piano play can be studied with a 76 key keyboard which has touch sensitivity upto beginning intermediate level, then why pay too much for entry level piano, rather save up for the better piano. But i see your point, it probably is better to have a right instrument as it would make the learning curve easier and faster and more enjoyable.
Hi! Thanks for the demo. I'm actually in the market for a piano up to the $2k range. Which one should I get?
I have done a quick video at Kim's Pianos of the Kawai ES8, which I like a lot, and am working on a video right now of the Yamaha P515, which has some lovely piano sounds. Both of these are under your budget, and I don't think you can really go wrong with either one.
@@ThePianoforever You also reviewed a Roland FP-90 that should be in their budget. Is it a digital piano that you recommend too? I am considering buying it and the most important feature, for me, is the action.