Roland FP-10 vs Yamaha P-45 | Better Music
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2019
- Today, Rudi compares our best selling digital piano, the Yamaha P-45 against the new Roland FP-10. Which one do you like?
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Can't afford either but giving a like because this is exactly how you should compare two pianos.👍🏻
What is on your profile?🤔
@@juliotabamo1898 it's an entry level keyboard. I have uploaded a few videos on this keyboard check it out if you want.
Giving this comment a like because this is how comments should be
1like=1pray for our friend😄
This was such a brilliant review! :D Thank you so much!
Thanks for the review mate. That was really good
i love this man's review. so unbiased and professional
Excellent comparison video. Very helpful and informative. Thank you look forward to more videos like this. Hope to see you do a longer in-depth review of the Yamaha CP-73 no one does the review quite like you. Thank you sir
G'day mate and thanks for the review
Excellent review, thank you! Really helped me make a decision. :) P45 for me.
finally someone who is doing good comparison. thank you
Great idea to do a VS on these two. Lovely playing too Sir!! X
Best piano comparison i've ever seen. Thank you!
It's a matter of taste to choose one of these pianos
Update here. I gone with the Yamaha p45. It's been 2 years now. Still like new. No click sound nothing. Just that when recording with my phone it has the key plastic pressing sound which is normal. Other than that. All works perfect. And also 1 thing I didn't like is the speaker the quality isn't that good it's just fine.
But the game.changer come. When you plug in headphones. And I do.mean expensive audiophile headphones. It sounds so rich. And warm. If you plug in cheap headphones it sound worse than the speaker. If you plug in good headphones. It sounds amazing. Overall it's well worth purchase. And also the roland at that time was way more expensive and literally over budget.
I am trying to make a decision. The Roland features sound more appealing to me and I think the bluetooth will help me learn faster. However, it is $156 more expensive than the Yamaha. I still can’t make my mind.
@@M7MD- well I never seen a Roland in real life. But all I can say is. The sound from the Yamaha speaker is fine. Decent . Can fill a room no problem. The build is solid . Everything is still good but. If you want awesome sound quality u need to have a good headphone plug it into the Yamaha. You will be surprise how much the sound changed.
It did for me I use the speakers it didn't sound that great but is ok. Than I swap to headphones it even sound more crappy than the speaker than I swap to a decent like Ath m40x , shp 9500 . Not gaming headphone omg. The sound literally boom. Out of this world. And I can tell the difference between cheap and expensive or decent headphones. No joke.
My Yamaha still as good as new.
Before you buy go see the review for me I did check up on Roland. Yes they sound good on speaker from RUclips videos and the Bluetooth is nice and all but. Most of them even on forum I seen many and many of them complaining about key lose , or some other problem with the device after few months of use or 1 to 2 year. And my Yamaha still holding up nicely. So choose wisely. Fixing these stuff cost alot of money. Just saying . As goes for the Yamaha at least this model I hardly or even never see problems with it. As for Roland I did though.
@@calvinyip364 how was recording with thge p40? i'm debating for both, but i really love the sound on the p40 but f10 roland has more buttons and gimmicks which i like, such as the bluetooth whicgh i can use my sony xm1004s, other wise id be using my sony mdr ex800st
I got the Roland FP10 and it is the same story. I use Beyerdynamic DT770 Pros and it sounds beautiful. The on-board speakers are not that bad though.
Awaiting my P45 tomorrow!
Currently trying to learn on a rather tired 1989 Korg M1 plugged into a horrific iPad Grand Piano patch so I’m sure I’ll be impressed!
Thanks for the great video 👍🏼👍🏼
The korg m1 is very nice tho. I'm using a kawai k4 for piano
So helpful! Thanks
Didn't help me make a final decision, but loved the side by side comparison, definitely very helpful!
Roland fp-10 sounds exactly like a grand piano while the p45 has a lot to sort out 😅
Great review and playing. As an absolute beginner which one would you recommend?
Grand piano + Pad on the Roland sounds gorgeous. In my opinion, better than with strings.
Great comparison! Thanks
I have a question, both are built-in speakers?
I listened to this with my $5 earbuds, both sound terrible.
you have cheap earbuds, what do you expect?
@@novice6869 r/wooosh
i listened to this with my $2.5 earbuds (uisii c200), both sound awesome XD
*Edit :
May 8th, i bought yamaha p45, it's quite good (8.8/10)and for recording, just use VST for the best sound (i use noire vst)
@@novice6869 you are a clown
@Anime Harmonics he's just mad he gots a small penis
Hi can I make a suggestion. When you're doing a review, can you also record the actual sound of both units of their built-in speakers because like me, that's a deal breaker. Though these 2 have both 12 watts speakers, for sure sound quality is different. Sometimes the sound they produce on a computer recordings is not exactly how they sound through the built in speakers, if that makes sense. Thank you.
I tried both, FP 10 is more heavier than p45 i tried just like this video compared two of them at same time, coz i like weighted keys to build power than i choose FP 10..
Its personal opinion tough...
Always love hearing Rudi play! I watch these just to hear him
🎹Thank you. But between P45 and Yamaha ARIUS YDP-103 which one do you think is better and i should get? thank you...
Both sounds great to me and I would be happy to have both or either one. Just to be very picky, when he played the chord progression at the lower register in the 3rd comparison, the Yamaha P-45 sounds warm and beautiful tone than RolandFP-10 which sounds a little too electronic to me.
For me to😀
Might be just from recording it. Just tried the fp10 and p45 in a store and I think the Roland has a much fuller and stronger sound. Also the hammer technique seems better. But I read something of clicking noices on the Roland. Does anybody know how bad it is?
@@Peekcasso Hey mate, maybe you could help me out or give me advice. As you've already tested the Roland fp10 within a store and are saying that the sound of it is just fuller and stronger, I can absolutely NOT tell the same about my FP30X. The FP30x has a better speaker system and a better sound engine than the FP10, so I'm therefore very confused. Am I doing smth. wrong? The sound of its in-build speakers are just 'average', there is no fullness or authenticity to hear. So I thought ok, must be the build-in speakers itself. I've connected my FP30x to my 2.1 sound speaker system, which is a high quality sound system - but still: the sound the Roland is producing through my external speakers are still bad and at best average. There is still none of the fullness, you can hear in this video by the Roland FP10. Why is that? Could it be, that the sound is produced and delivered much differently if its connected to a audio-interface? How is this guy able to produce so crystal clear sound of those low budget epianos? Ty buddy. (If you probably speak german, schreib auch gerne auf deutsch)
@@zjaeger1800 Hi, dann werd ich auf deutsch schreiben 😄
Also ich habe ein Yamaha clp 545 und das fp10. Ich finde das spielgefühl auf dem fp10 besser obwohl es um einiges billiger ist. Der Sound des fp10 kommt nicht ganz auf die Lautstärke des clp545 aber ich denke von der Qualität nahezu ident. Ich benutzt das fp10 in eknem kleinen Raum und das yamaha in einem größeren deswegen habe ich leider keinen exakten Vergleich und vl täusche ich mich nur wegen der ton Qualität. Was ich auf jeden Fall sagen kann, mit Kopfhörer hört sich das fp10 echt fantastisch an
@@Peekcasso I had the clicky noise on a few keys in the Roland FP-10 after 1 week and I ended up sending It back. I'm happy with the P45 now as a beginner.
Very helpful, thank you!! I am taking a chance with an FP-10. Both are sold at Costco through bundles and this provides peace of mind with their wonderful return plan!
where do you live i wanna see if its by my costco as well
@@AGUYNAMED278 Its at Costco.com! : - )
@@vccranker thanks but rip I'm in Canada I checked Canadian Costco and they have jack lol
@@AGUYNAMED278 The FP-10 has been pulled from Costco's website. : - ( And I had an issue with mine so it's going back tomorrow. In the meantime, I purchased a Yamaha P-45 from Costco for less $ and like it so far. Only thing is, it has since gone out-of-stock, making me even more glad I got one right away before Christmas. Maybe you can find an FP-10 or Yamaha P-125 at Tom Lee's?! Love (and miss) CANADA!
Perfect comparison!
Thank you very much!
Big thanks for this review. I went to the shop and tested myself the Yamaha P45, Yamaha P125, Roland FP 10 & Roland FP 30. I decided to buy the Roland FP10 for some reason. Roland feels more nicer on the keys really feels like a piano. Roland sound is better in terms of treble and bass feels more piano to me. Yamaha sustain is too much for me. Roland sustain feels better and accurate in my opinion only. Thanks again! Each individual has each own preference. I used to be a Yamaha fan ever since but this time Roland feels and sounds better.
do you still have the roland fp 10? I want to buy it but I have heard that the keys get very loud over time.
@@frederikoadr FP30 and FP10 have the same keys
thank you for comparing ...
Both seem like really good keyboards. I don’t think you could go wrong with either for the price tbh
Digital piano 🤦♂️
Not keyboard
@@putra_rimbawan_ I believe digital piano is in the sub category of 'keyboards' instrument. That includes the Arranger, Workstation, and then the Portable/Digital/Stage Pianos, also some midi controllers and Synthesizers
@@putra_rimbawan_ literally a keyboard? are you retarded
Yamaha P45 sounds way more natural! Just ordered mine, so excited!! Thank you for this video
How is it? Do you recommend it?
How is it?
just another account Yes, it is perfect at least for what I wish to learn. Beautiful sound.
Does yamaha P45 connect with the smart pianist app?
Roland sounds way too bright and metallic for things like Romantic Era music that I'd like to play on a piano. So, I'll probably buy the Yamaha P-45 in the future as well.
I actually tried both in a store. FP10 keys textures so good. Feels great on the fingertips. However, I feel the gaps of the keys a little wide? P45 is quite bad, I played 4 "A"s together. The higher A3 and A4 can't be heard almost got buried immediately...
@ Really hard to know when testing in the store. did you have headphones?
Anybody can comment on how heavy the keys are at one end to the other? ex: C4 near the edge vs C4 at the end of the black keys). I have a Casio CDP-S100. The weight difference along the keys make sit hard to play. I'm looking for the cheapest piano with the best action to use as a midi controller with Pianoteq.
Two beautiful keyboards 👍
You are beautiful too! Have a nice day! ^.^
P45 is brighter than fp-10
I prefer fp-10
What? FP is way brighter but sounds terrible, very artificial imho.
@@TheActualTed Hilarious how many of us perceive things so differently. I tend to agree with you on this anyway. lol
@@vccranker I mean, I tried them both but I am leaning towards Yamaha. Maybe for a concert the brighter sound would be better but for practicing I think the warmer sound is more pleasing and less harsh.
@@TheActualTed I guess whichever speaks to you more, but I'm realizing that the P-125 is what should be compared with the FP-10. Otherwise the FP-10 has an unfair advantage. Because the P-45 is older and more affordable. I recommend you purchase from a place that will TAKE IT BACK if you have any issues in the first month or longer. My FP-10 has a defect with the highest octave always sustaining and so it is going back tomorrow. I got the P-45 and like it so far. I noticed that the P-125 has better sound, but it is also more expensive.
@@vccranker Well it probably depends on where you live. There might be like $40 difference between those two but in most stores the price is almost the same here. P125 is $200 more expensive.
The roland has the best feel of any of the entry level keyboards. It was more responsive to soft touch. Thanks for the direct comparison. Not enough price difference to get the fp10 over the fp30. The fp10 should be under $700.
Hola, consulta para los que saben
Cuál tiene mejor teclado? Resistencia, durabilidad, ruido
Do you sacrifice sound quality using an adapter with the headphone out jack compared to a dedicated speaker output?
Nah. Not if u have a good pair of headphones and a DAC
Yamaha P45 little bit more natural.. but for me the winner is Roland FP-10 for better key action
From what I’ve heard, the Yamaha sounds “deeper” and fuller, while the Roland sounds brighter and more open.
I tried playing both at the store and the Roland's key action felt much closer to an acoustic piano (though still not the same) than the P45. The P45 keys felt like a toy to me in terms of how springy they are.
P-45 is amazing. FP-10 is too stiff
Very nice comparisson! Thank you! Roland hasa better key action as I own Fp30 and is the same PH4 action. You can hear more levels of authenticity of real piano sounds, more chromatic, on the FP10. Yamaha has a different tone and less nuances on this model, that might please to some people though.
Would be nice to have one including the new Casio Privia PX-S1000 that is in the same price range as I heard and seems to have even more to offer for the money compared to both Yamaha and Roland.
I think it is an unfair comparison, the FP-10 vs P-45 because the P-45 is old and so the FP-10 should probably be compared with the P-125. To this I say: Watch out Roland, because I think the P-45 was already nipping at the FP-10's heels and with the fairer comparison (FP-10 vs P-125), look out! lol
Yes! I fell like this as well
I love both
great review man! those pianos seems great! i think the Yamaha sounds like more "classic" and Rolando little bit more "pop modern" ...
I like the both. But, I think p45 sound more natural. Specially when you play strong 💪💪💪
Thank you guy!
I tried both and ended up buying the Roland as a light tour piano. The key action and default sounds are better in my opinion. But both are great for the price
Did you start getting clicking keys though?
hello, how are you recording the sound of the Rolandfp10? or how are you amplifying?
Other than a metronome is there a function where I could get some drum beats in either of the keyboards using the app? Thanks
Love this review. May I know the music played in this video?
Its just review music from the "Music bits for youtube puano reviews"
THANK YOU! This is the best way to compare..
Glad it was helpful!
Ambos son buenos..cualquiera puede ser una buena adquisición.
P-45 is kinda like a mellow sound which i like, but fp-10 has more distinctive high and low notes...
Hi Andre, I agree with you. I like P-45.
Dude - my P45 is arriving Monday - was feeling I should have maybe got the FP-10 for its more advanced technology - but after hearing you play the P45 at 2:09 I am glad of my choice! Many thanks from London, England!
Do u regret getting yamaha?
I had to return the P45 as it looked like it was not new - and exchanged it for the Yamaha PSR EW425 arranger instead
@@makarashow's the experience with the 425? Currently stuck in a similar situation and very confused
@@sarthakvinchurkar No issues whatsoever! It only has one or two small red leds - and the totally lcd screen is rather boring - but it has so many functions that it will take several weeks to figure them all out - buy it!!
@@makaras I still feel like investing a bit more and getting a proper digital piano, the sound engine, movement between the keys and the key-feel difference seems like a Lot
I don't know why, it's "hard" to play play on yamaha's GHS keyboard action, I don't know how to explain that, but it's something weird to play on GHS, GH3 and higher are cool actions. Roland's PHA4 seems much closer to an upright piano action.
I like both 🥺💕😩
Hi! Good day!
I was about to purchase Roland FP 10 but when I am about to connect it to my macbook, it doesn't recognize the FP 10 as a midi controller/instrument for my Digital Audio Workstation (Garageband). It is supposed to automatically recognize the instrument like any other midi keyboards unless Roland FP 10 does not support Midi functions for DAW?
Can anyone help? Thank you so much!
I’m a newbie and thinking of getting my first keyboard. Is yamaha NP32 gonna be enough as first keyboard or should i go for P45? Any suggestion from experienced people would be helpful.
Go P-45
Which keys have bigerst dynamic range? I want to use it like a midi keyboard, but dont know which ones to choose
The Roland has a more advanced sound engine, and a really great dynamic range, soft to loud, depending on how the key is touched. It also uses a technology that interpolates the key strike, so it isn't sounding at a specific stepped volume level, but instead has the full dynamic range of an acoustic piano.
It sounds more piano-like and beautiful than any midi piano font I've tried, whether modeled (Pianoteq) or sampled, since Roland developed a proprietary combination of the two. But the dynamic range when using MIDI should be the same, very good. The more you read about it, the more it seems almost unbelievable how well it works. When I got it, I was almost glad I didn't have $4000 to spend on a more expensive digital piano, because I love everything about this one.
Even though I use MIDI, it's still nice to be able to turn on the keyboard and have the piano sound be so good, for when I just want to play the piano.
I originally would like to buy fp30 but I think that fp10 just enough for my needs after watching this video😄
What kind of adapter do you use to connect fp 10 to external speakers?
Do we have option to use External speaker by using 3.5mm Jack in Yamaha P45B
Can the fp10 connect to a bluethooth headphone? What size it the headphone jack?
So Guys, which one the Best ? Yamaha p45 or Roland fp10? Overall?
What are the music examples this man uses please? Beautiful music pieces 🥰
I have the p45 already before watching the vid so i want another one roland f-10
MatXPlayz was there a problem with the keys rattling (mostly middle c) or any other issues with the piano? Roland has very wide keys so I wouldn’t get it unless p45 had an issue most complain of
I read that p45 is not working on smart pianist app??
I want to know what was played around 4:05? Can anyone please advise?
I like the p10 for the higher up note. I like the p45 for the lower notes. I got the p30 instead.
Lol
can you like.. explain why you chose it..
Pouchy17 they didn’t have the FP-10 in stock so I got the FP-30 for $1.5K which is 2X the price of the FP-10.
Good Job Sir.
Both sound very good
what soundcard/audio interface do u use for this piano ? please
What audio interface music box do you use to record these sounds?
I'm going to buy one in a few months asked of the two should I take
if the FP-10 is placed a few inches higher, it may prevent the same playing as the P45... so I think like Merriam Music, they place one of the left and one on the right so they can turn 180 degree and play one of the other, that'd put two piano at an equal playing field
Which one do you choose for a child? We are studding at the first class of music school.
The bright edge on the FP-10 would easily cut through an audience in a loud environment.
Which one would you prefer for jazz and blues style of music ? I still can't decide which is better. They're both great pianos !
Did you decide since I m trying to
@@markelroy3313, same situation
@@sadhorsephile I got the fp10 and I m really glad it's touch is amazing and the piano 1 sounds amazing
@@markelroy3313 glad for your lucky choice :з
most likely I'll buy fp-10 too
@@markelroy3313 I was only so so happy with mine. No volume knob. Seriously? And then about a week into it, I noticed the highest octave is sustained always. Seriously? I tried factory reset. No change. Sustain pedal is unplugged and I didn't use it anyway. No firmware upgrade. And Roland personnel told me to take it to a service center? Forget that. It's going back.. 2 MOROW! lol
How to connect the yamaha p45 to the console, since it has no output?
how do they work as a USB mother keyboard hooked up to a computer?
yes they both would work
Someone will be able to explain which is better and what is the difference between NUX NPK 10 and Roland FP 10.
I have bought Roland for musicschool. My opinion the sound in Roland is brighter, but one minus is that keys clatter louder. But for musicschool Roland is enough.
I'm studying classical singing(I'm a tenor) and I have to buy a piano for my studies. Which one should I get?
Yamaha sounds more natural for me. Less digital, if u like.
I'm playing Roland RD300NX, but I agree with you... Yamaha P-45 has a natural tone..
OMG...I can't believe that next week I'm buying a Yamaha p45 🤩🎹🎹🎹
@@adastefaniu2602 You can sometimes get the P125 for close to the price of a P45, from Guitar Center. Every now and then, they have a 15% off sale, and all you do is ask them at the store at the time, or call the number on their website and tell them you would like to purchase the P-125 but want to take advantage of the 15% savings.
@@vccranker Thank you 😊👍👍
@@adastefaniu2602 Absolutely. You may have to wait for a holiday. Eventually you will see 'Get 15% off any purchase of $49 or more' across the top of the website. Then, just call the phone number and ask them to help you get the discount, or go to your local store and do the same. : - )
which one is better for gigs and practice ?
Prolly p45 that’s just my opinion
The Yamaha seems to be overally balanced with no flaws while the Roland has very amazing tone quality so long as you dont push the notes too hard. Otherwise it starts sounding digital.
Conclusion:
If you have excellent control on your hands then go for the Roland.
If you want a casual piano without having to worry about hand control then go for Yamaha.
Best comment so far
Can you tell me what the song is in the video?
My hearing must be going. I didn't hear any singing!
I prefer the warmth and richness to Rolands in general across the board. I always Yamahas a little sharp and piercing on the ear... and in some cases actually a teeny bit sharp in pitch!!!! ???!
FP-10 is better! Keys action, Piano sound is more rich
@Mimi Ibrahim I think it's the way the keys seems heavier on the left than on the right. Reproduce the weight of the hammers on a real piano.
@@Colocassecouille That's just the graded action which both have. When people typically talk about better action it means they feel more like real piano keys overall from weight to feel to everything else.
FP-10 has great feel and love the weightedness but unfortunately develops clicking noises very quickly with the PHA4 action. Not happy with mine because of this.
I tried both and I feel like FP10 is very plasticky and clicky. Also the dynamic range seemed much smaller. I had to tap the keys incredibly lightly to get a quiet tone and mash them very hard to get louder. Yamaha felt more responsive.
@@Bec888B Bummer and sorry to hear. I purchased an FP-10 and a week or so into it, discovered the right most 16 or 17 keys are always sustained. Tried factory reset. No firmware upgrade available. I was able to return it in time and am trying the P-45 and like the way the keys don't feel as weighted. I hear that the keys on real grand pianos are generally not as firm as those on an upright acoustic. So perhaps in a way, the lesser weighted keys on the P-45, more closely resemble an actual grand piano? Kind of ironic.
Omg... Roland so so warm! i love it, and i'll buy roland
You could have had my yamaha grand for nothing it was only £100.000 but the boy at the top 5 dollar ear phones made rock jam 88 key piano sound way much better its was barry manilow who is sponsored by yamaha, I phoned him sent him a voucher for the earphones, he's starting to use rock jam, could it magic sounds magic, but what would the man who was the top student in his music school know, a lot of people don't know this, but manilow has fund for school of music in America, he used all money for meet and greet yamaha let him have instruments at cost, he donates to a lot of schools in the 🇺🇸 USA, he's very private no a lot know that, I reckon rock jam will be new sponser
FP-10 : Sampled from an European grand piano
P-45 : Sampled from Yamaha's own premium upright pianos
I hope that was the truth. "But it isn't"
Will you compare it to Yamaha p115?
Sofia Chatz I would prefer Yamaha 115 as it has excellent built in speakers compared to p 45
I think when it comes to music production. You would eventually need vst plugins . So might as well get the cheaper one.. in this case the P45 and get a good piano plugin, and you are good to go
But even action is important right
@@nigeldsouza6088 yes, I lacked knowledge before ... I had the P45 before and man I can tell you, it is very bad when you pair it up with a high end VST plugin... I ordered the fp-10 recently . It has the triple sensor and escapement while the P45 has dual and no escapement aswell. Might not be the best out there compared to a Kawai and all. But I am sure it will give a better midi output then the P45
@@sakefchowdhury9668 Im glad you bought the fp10. Action is very important. And I have taken a demo of the P45 before and it just doesn't feel that great to play. However I have not got to take a demo of fp10 here in India and I'm curious to feel the keys and experience it. I hope soon I will be able to. Have you tried CDP s350?
@@sakefchowdhury9668 Also do you happen to stay in Mumbai, India?
@@nigeldsouza6088 nah I din't try out the CDP-S350... But I just checked, the CDP also is a dual sensor keybed... I am sure the fp-10 would be a better choice if you are considering among the two ... And I live in Bangladesh
I trained playing classical for years, but I am thinking of switching to romantic. Not sure which one I would use.
Yamaha p125 best choice
Thank You! I make a decision 🤩
HELLO MY FRIEND! THANKS FOR THIS REVIEW. I am about to buy a digital piano, and it is a huge investment for me. Since I was a little girl I am used to play real piano. Wich one do you feel that it is more like a piano in therms of keys , weight of them and sound? Thanks!!!
p45 but get p125 if you can afford it
Does anyone know what song this is starting at 1:42
which one is better. I want real piano sound . FP10 or yamaha p45
To my ears the Roland sound Abit digital the ending notes. Where the Yamaha sound full and bright
I'm a beginner. I'm torn between Yamaha p45, Roland FP-10 and korg b2. Please help.
Timothy I think you should 100% go for Yamaha p45! It’s amazing
I recommend you to buy Roland fp10. The keys are much better than Yamaha, (where Roland uses the PHA-4 Standard and has an Ivory feel & Escapement). For sound, Roland is better i think, because they use the "SuperNATURAL Sound Engine" where they produce excellent dynamics and expressions.
@@stephem8 I tried the FP-10 and thought the volume control (lack of) was sort of cheesy and unfortunately the last octave and change is sustained at all times, no sustain pedal pressed, and in fact unplugged just to be sure. Tried factory reset, which was not well documented, but that didn't help. No firmware upgrade. It is going back tomorrow and I say good riddance because I am disappointed, to be sure.
Turns out this is normal, but Roland support did not tell me, but instead recommended getting it serviced.
@@stephem8 No, when I asked I was told it might be a defect, but it's supposed to be like that because that is what acoustic pianos do as well.
Which one will give connectivity to android mobile through cable
You can connect to the fp 10 via bluetooth