🎹Roland FP-30 vs Roland FP-10 Digital Piano Comparison, Review, & Demo🎹
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
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Introduction:
The Roland FP-10 and FP-30 are two of the piano industry’s most popular entry-level 88 note digital pianos, and part of the same series. The FP30 came first, and the FP10 snuck in over the last year and a half to become a dominant player in the $500 USD digital piano market. They share an action, very similar tone generators, and overal dimensions are also quite similar - so what are the reasons that someone should pay $300 more for the FP30 vs FP10? Or perhaps more importantly...are you really missing out on anything great to just go with the cheaper version of the two? Let’s find out!
Tone Engines & Sound:
The FP10 does include a slightly limited version of the Supernatural Sound Engine (the general sound architecture that’s found throughout Roland’s entire lineup), and a slightly lower polyphony than the FP30 has, but it has no noticeable effect on the playing experience really. When played side-by-side with identical settings, the FP30’s beefier circuitry actually does produce a fuller more complex tone, but you need almost ‘laboratory-type conditions’ to detect it.
The piano tone, Rhodes, and all the other standard sounds are well rendered on both, and particularly with a good set of headphones, the piano is altogether fully usable as a PIANO, not a cheap imitation of one. The limitations of the speaker size and power on the FP10 means that the onboard sound is usable only in the most private of settings - anything more than that and you’re looking at reinforcement from an amp. The FP30 on the other hand has a surprisingly capable set of speakers on it; while it doesn’t exactly deliver warm lush bass tones, it cuts through adequately, and in a small enough room, does give a pretty full spectrum experience without any additional reinforcement.
The polyphony is relatively close, 96 vs 128, and the number of sounds is substantially beefed up on the FP30 as well.
Action:
Both instruments use the PHA-4 Ivory-touch action with escapement, which is a pro-level action found in instruments all the way up to (and above) the $2000 price point. This makes the FP10 & FP30 both a substantial value, when you consider they have a triple sensor, ivory touch with escapement, and an extremely robust construction quality.
The PHA-4 is the exact same action that you’ll find in the FP60, but also the F140r and the RP501r. It has a very well executed ‘faux’ ivory keytop feel and ebony feel on the black keys, a believable escapement simulation, and a rugged physical construction that doesn’t give off unreasonable mechanical sounds or ‘clunks’.
Other Features:
Both the FP10 and FP30 offer Bluetooth over MIDI, and limited functionality through the Piano Partner 2 app. The FP30 does offer rhythm accompaniments through the app (FP10 doesn’t), and also features ¼” output + 3.5mm outputs (which can be used as either headphone jacks or not, without auto-shutting off the local speakers...a nice feature). The FP30 also has a basic recording function onboard.
Conclusions:
If the purpose of the instrument is to provide a great action and piano or epiano tones, in as light-weight a case as possible, the FP10 wins the gold. The quality of piano tone and action delivers extraordinary value for it’s price. However, the FP30, with available triple pedal, expanded tones, Rhythm Accompaniment, and onboard speakers to use it for professional applications like rehearsals or teaching rooms, make it an equally high value. It all depends on what you need!
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Мабуть найкращий огляд цих інструментів на RUclips. Дякую, ви вкотре мене переконали у виборі FP-30
Differences: Roland Fp 10 vs Roland Fp 30
Sounds: 15 Tones vs 35 Tones 8 Rhythms
Speakers/Output: 12cm(2x6watts) vs 12cm(2x11watts)
Song Recorder: No vs Yes + USB memory
Headphones: One vs Two ( 3.5mm,6mm)
Pedals: Single sustain vs 3 way Compactability
Size: 1280mm vs 1300mm
Weight: 12.3 kg vs 14.1kg
@Camila Gatica yes. You need to connect Roland fp10 to external speakers. The inbuilt speakers are pretty good for an average single room. Nit great for large spaces
FP30 also has red felt on the keys, FP10 does not. Minor difference, but worth mentioning.
@@gns942 may I know how they make a difference while playing?
@@jeremiahdaniel6339 Probably not much difference, as I did try out an FP-10 and an FP-30 in person, and they both felt similar. I think the FP-30 might have been slightly better in the feel, but it could just be me.
@@gns942 Alright. Thanks.
I got the FP10. What kept me from getting the FP30 was the difference in weight, size, and of course $$. My idea was to have a basic practice instrument at home (with headphones) for day - to - day practice and learning new pieces, and then play, perform and do recordings on a real Grand Piano I have regular access to... better said, HAD, until COVID19 shut the place down. Now I wish I'd gotten the FP30 which has on-board feature that allows recording to a memory stick, and 2 line outputs (which would allow me to record directly to the aux of a recorder while still using headphones or a small monitor speaker).
Not that I'm unhappy with the FP10! It fits the bill pefectly for the originally intended purpose, but if I had to make the choice again I'd go for the FP30 because of the additional features I mentioned, and I want to share this point of view here.
Hmm thanks I'm deciding between these two now.
Hi Andres, I've just ordered one FP10 two days ago and as I wait for it to come I've been watching videos about it and I'm noticing that there's a bunch of people out there having that problem with the keys, saying that they make that clunk sound and is annoying. I never played a DP so I can't tell if that would annoy me a lot but knowing myself I honestly think it will. What's your thoughts on this issue? Thanks
@@luispinheirodosmontes7219 Hi Luis. I have my FP10 since November 2019. I have put it to use average 2 hours / day since then, in professional grade classical music practice sessions, which are hard for any instrument. Only recently the keys are starting to clatter a little bit, which doesn't wonder me: Roland says specifically that this is an entry level e-piano, implicit: Not a professional, heavy duty grade one.
The *clunking* sound some complain about is not constant. It happens only when I 'repeat' at a certain speed, and doesn't affect the sound of the piano, and Roland says specifically that this is normal; not a defect.
I hope this information helps, and that you enjoy it nevertheless!
I wanted an fp-30/30x but they were all sold out and it was just a little out of budget, put an order on the last fp-10 in my country, got an email back saying "sorry, we sold the last one before you placed your order, but we have one fp-30 left we can sell you for only an extra $50 (aud), winning! 😀
That's what I'm looking for. Thank you for your sharing
Well done! Thanks Stu, useful comparison 👍🏼
Your videos has been very helpful. Thank you! :)
I can,t thank you enough for your knowledgeable reviews!
Very useful comparison. Thank you!
Another excellent detailed and honest review. Thank you!
Thank you kindly for tuning in! We're glad you enjoyed it! :)
Thank you so much for all these informations.
Thank you for the information, I was thinking of buying fp 30, but wasn't sure about action ☺️👍🤗😊
Thanks for this video.
really an amazing video to help you make the perfect choice. well done and thank you.
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for tuning in! We appreciate it. :)
awesome thank you!
Best Keyboard Reviews I've found on RUclips - Thank you!! Do you guys carry the Casio PX-S1000 and PX-S3000? They look sweet and I would love to see you weigh in on them!
The best FP10 vs F30 on youtube with demo. Thanks Sir
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for tuning in! :)
thank you for perfect review
You're welcome! Thank you so much for tuning in! :)
While the FP-10 may not have a speaker output jack, you could connect an amplifier and external speakers to the headphone jack.
Very good comparrison. Thanks a lot!
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Hi Stu thank you very much excellent video but I would want to ask you the next question: I have bought the Roland FP30 a pair of months ago but I have notated that the sound of the speakers is more opaque from the side of the piano player and brighter towards the hearer, is it normal? or it would be a possible factory damage. Thank you very much for your answer and help (or if somebody else who has the same piano and read this could help me I would thank you greatly)
hey, you realky helped to make a choice and the result was satisfying. thank you! The instrument behaves exactly as you have described.
You're very welcome! We're so glad to hear that you found the video helpful through your process. :)
Is this sound generated by line out through remote speakers? I like the FP 10 but the Korg D1 beckons because I'd need an external amp and speakers for that, and I might need these elements on the FP 10 if that's what you're using for this review..
So, which one is loudest in terms of max DB or SPL?
In a recent RUclips video (with a more negative bias), the FP30 was reported as being very tall. Stu, when you sit at the keyboard, you look like you're sitting at a good height relative to keyboard. How are you achieving this? I thought X-stands were for standing gigs. How do you keep the correct height? How does Roland recommend keeping correct height? As I shop, Roland's custom stand doesn't show dimensions and searching the internet for this keyboard height + stand is noticeably missing.
Stu, connecting to Garage Band can't you use some of the backing tracks with the FP10?
Was hoping for sound comparisons
I have an fp30, love it. Although, it's not compatible with Piano Designer. Not sure how you would connect a triple pedal either, it only has one pedal jack input.
Was looking to buy fp-10, and as you might have guessed; they are out of stock everywhere. While searching, luckily got a brand new fp-30 with just CAD 120 more, as they are being discounted while the new fp-30x hit the store. Perfect time to get the fp-30.
Hi there, what about that clanking noise on the key action? How are you experiencing that? In this video the guy talks about it and you can hear to that noise. I've just ordered the FP10 but I'm getting cold feet about it because I know that clank will drive me nuts. Could you give any thoughts about that? Thanks🙌
How did you record it? I'm using USB - B, my laptop acknowledges it, but Audacity still recording the laptop microphone and Reaper says that the device (roland fp10) couldn't be opened
I think FP10 is good enough for general piano practice.
Im agree too. I decided to buy it one 😀
@Yu Wong YoU WrONG
@@0h_218 hi, i read some comments there was q clicking issue with fp 10, is that real?
Hi, i read some comments, there was a clicking issue with fp 10, is that real?
@@Daniel9Joshua nope, it's p45 issues
This is a fantastic review, but you could mention that FP-30 does not support piano designer app, which is a critical flaw.. I am enjoying your reviews! Keep it up :)
Oh my, i thought its the other way around, so FP-10 eventually has more possibilities regarding sound tweaking?!
I thought he just said in the video that both pianos supported the designer app
He said both support Rolland partner 2?
@@kikokoussi7594 He said both support piano partner 2 & piano designer, but the thing is FP-30 does support piano partner2 and does not support piano designer app.
Stu, I purchased the fp30, the top, hi g - hi c keys just clunk, no ring at all, so I tried all the sensitivity settings, same. While considering exchanging it another problem reared it’s ugly head. The app stopped working. Two days of research online and in the manual wit it only intermittently working then nothing. I’m hopeful this was just defective. I didn’t purchase it from Meriam but your videos are the best and you seem pretty informed, just thought you may have some input. I’m going to exchange it. I would like your thoughts especially regarding the dead or loud clunky hi keys. Thanks again.
Great review, thank you. I saw somewhere that on the FP30, if you hold down some keys and play other keys, it will, like on acoustic piano, "activate" the held down keys from the harmonics. I was a demo of that. Does the FP10 do the same or is this part of the chips/programming differences between the 2 models?
Thanks so much! We're glad you enjoyed it! The Roland FP30X model does in fact have a "string resonance", which simulates the sympathetic vibrations of strings adjacent to the played string like on an actual piano. The FP10 has this feature as well, but it is always on and not adjustable. Overall, the FP10 and FP30X both use the same core SuperNATURAL sound engine, but there are some differences between the two when you compare their spec sheets, such as the max polyphony.
Anyone have a link to where i can buy the FP-10? I cant seem to find them on amazon or any where else
Thank you
Thank you for your review! Do you have to have the app to change the sounds or can you do it directly from the keyboard?
You can change the sounds present on the Instrument directly on it. This is done by pressing & holding the 'Function' button + Key (labelled with a tone name on top of it)
Jeremiah Daniel thank you! I bought the FP-10. I am happy with it.
You're most welcome Sophie!
Hi guys, wanted to express some gratitude for the tremendous help, even tho you're on the other side of the world from me, bc I finally got a piano today! (..tho there's been a lil' mix-up I'm not sure what to feel about that I want to hear your thoughts, if I may, please?)
I've been in the shopping research haze for the past two months, went from looking for a decent keyboard to play my fav Sondheim tunes to wanting a full sized piano bc I got interested in classics down the road, and stumbled upon this channel somewhere around that change of objective.
I gotta say this is a very nice space and I ended up falling in love with Stu with his playing, presentation and vast knowledge; that's delivered full of personality, enthusiasm, and compassion. This is embarrassing, but if I have to confess I'm currently having the biggest sort of celebrity crush on Stu, to the point I'm looking up his stuff here and on other platform, got myself in a "I could listen to him talk/play for hours" kind of situation haha. I'm binging many of this channel's videos, even ones unrelated to my purpose, it's been a fun and educating ride to a world I've always thought could never comprehend for a decade. I was surprised that my country have a piano industry when I watched your 'Pianos of The World' series. Of course, my appreciation also goes beyond Stu to the rest of the team for the high-quality and engaging content you guys put out, as well as the nice interactions in the community. (Can I also just say what a nice community this is? Like 99% of the time the comments here had been a joy to read; there are times I stumbled upon a channel where the comments just make me want to step out asap.)
So, I've been on-off interested in playing an instrument since grade school, tried guitar a few times but it never really clicked in my brain? Pianos are actually one I want to play but I never expressed this to my parents bc I had an idea how expensive it was where I'm from, both the intrument and the lesson. Now, my family still isn't exactly supportive and discouraged me (even a bit against music in general), but I'm at a point where I can personally afford a digital piano and not be a burden, and tldr I fell in love with Roland FP10 (tho I was kinda on an agonizing FP10 vs P45 for awhile there) and decided to buy a used one for a good deal.
The thing is, I've asked the right questions and gotten good answer except one thing I didn't consider which is... the seller apparently mistook the piano he owned as FP10 and listed as such, while it's actually FP30 which I just found out when it arrived at home a few hours ago. Now I tested almost everything and it works great (except the Bluetooth, which I'm still not sure about, and the USB Midi bc I don't have the cable on hand), but I'm just not sure how to feel? Is this a fortunate/unfortunate thing? I'm a little bit disappointed bc it's not the FP10 I fell in love with, but objectively is this a lucky mistake kind of thing, or one I should be upset about? The other thing, I checked the box, and it's listed as the model "FP 30 BK L" (the list was the usual BK, WH, then BK L, WH L) do you have an idea what's the L stands for? I have yet to find anything on it, and I'm a little worried thinking it might have to do with Bluetooth capability.
I really want to be happy with my first piano, even might be my only piano (at least for a long while), but currently I'm just... anxious. Would appreciate to hear your thoughts!
Thanks and have a nice day Stu, Brent, and the rest of the team! :)
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Firstly, thank you so much for your incredibly kind words and for supporting our channel! To say that we appreciate it would be a massive understatement. Also, I will be happy to share your kind words and feedback to Stu on your behalf. :)
I am glad to hear that you've taken the plunge into studying music and the piano. Playing piano is incredibly rewarding and there are nothing but benefits that come along with it. The Roland FP10 is a wonderful instrument. When shopping for a starting digital piano, I (like Stu) prioritize action as this will pay dividends in the long run in terms of technical development.
As for the mixup with the piano, while the FP30 is not a current model, it is a superior instrument to the FP10 in virtually every category. While they possess the same action (PHA4), the FP30 has a superior speaker system, more built-in features, and triple pedal support. So, from my stand point, I think this could be a happy and beneficial mistake in the long run!
Thanks again and enjoy your new piano! :)
Was hoping to hear a demo of the speaker outputs, back to back. Have yet to find a video that provides this.
Do these have any additional outputs for hooking up an ipad or all of that is done through the bluetooth? Is is compatible with all of the standard learning apps ?
instablaster...
It's worth mentioning that you can use all 35 sounds of fp30 on fp10 - using Roland Piano Partner 2.
Does fb10 has a transpose ?
@@musical_. yes, it does.
@@just_ppe thank you
When you connect to the piano partner 2 do the number of sounds become equal or does the fp30 gain sounds that the fp10 doesnt? I've tried asking roland but they wont give me a clear answer.
I can't believe it , are you sure?
Key difference you mentioned is on the Pedal: single sustain Fp10 vs 3way compatibility Fp30 - can anyone tell a beginner why this would be important to learning?
I'm absolutely clueless about epiano stuff but it seems like being the dynamic in sustain
Single sustain: press the pedal and you get the same sustain everytime
3way: the more you press, the more sustain, on 3 levels
But again - I don't really know
Question: when you connect to the piano partner 2 app, does the catalog of sounds become equal btwn the two or are there more for the fp30?
Also Im wondering about it, if t hey have same number of sounds via app, then fp-10 enough for me..
According to this webpage yes, www.pianodreamers.com/roland-fp10-review/ , it says literally:
"However, what I found is that if you access the FP-10 via the Roland Piano Partner 2 app, you can actually access all the sounds from the FP-30, which is pretty cool."
Can you use the fp-10 with plugins like omnisphere in your daw? And use different sounds like bells and stuff?
Yes! You certainly can. Any MIDI compatible instrument can be used in conjunction with VST plugins or a DAW. :)
Does the Roland fp10 make clicking noise s after some months?
Your reviews are so fantastic! The two audio ports and the three pedals are really the deciding factor. I could not figure that out for sure without your review.
I agree with what you said about the DP-10 pedal. I had tried an M-audio pedal for a couple of years, but it squeeked, moved, and did not have the half-pedaling option. I finally decided to get the DP-10, which costs almost $50 but I found it to be well worth it. The design of the bottom rubber, to address the moving, etc. is important for piano players.
Some reviews say that the FP10 will add 20 additional sounds with the Piano Partner 2 app, making it the same as the FP30 in that regard. Are the added sounds the same quality as the FP30? And does the app give additional sounds to the FP30 on top of the 35?
Hello, friend, how did you find out if other additional functions coincide with the FP30?
postscript I'm waiting for my FP10 to be delivered to me;)
How do you record the audio directly from the piano and use it in this video?
Does anybody know this?
Hi Alex, We took 3.5m Stereo cable into a sound interface, and then monitored with a quiet amplifier in the corner of the room (so my mic wouldn't pick it up).
Would you do a review of the new Roland Piano App? The ones in this video have been replaced.
Thanks for the suggestion! An updated video that tackles all of the new apps is an excellent idea! :)
Can I use the FP-10 as a MIDI controller to use many other virtual instruments (from other sotware brands) than the Roland Partner Piano 2 included with it ?
Yup - you certainly can! Any MIDI compatible digital piano can be used as a MIDI controller via either Bluetooth MIDI, MIDI outputs, or USB outputs (depending on which connectivity options are available on a specific model). :)
Great!@@MerriamPianos Thanks for lighting me up! I expect to buy it very soon then! Yeah!
There is a new fp30. The fp-30x. If people are like me thinking of buying one. I highly suggest waiting. I have not seen a fp-10x but I suppose there will be. But when is the question... Not so after reviewing rolands website stating their new fpx lineup contains the regular fp-10.
probably never
Merriam Music one question:
Yamaha p45 or Roland fp10
I‘m a beginner and i have no idea which one to buy. people say that roland fp10 sounds better than yamaha but they also say that it has clicking keys.
can you help me? i’ll buy one of them today..
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Without having all of the context behind your decision making process, my lean would in favour of the Roland FP10. For me, it really comes down to the quality of the action. It is a wonderful touch that I personally find to be superior to that of the P45. Thanks and hope this helps! :)
Great video, thanks a lot! I bought an FP-30 for Christmas, and am just getting started with the basics. I'm curious about the Piano Designer app you mention. On the AppStore for iOS the description doesn't list the FP-30 or the FP-10 as compatible models (it does include the FP-90, FP-80 and FP-60 models), but on your video we can see you using it with the FP-10. Is it just a problem with their description, or something actually changed that stopped support for the FP-10 and FP30s? Thanks in advance.
Edwin, I tried the Piano Designer app today in the store. Although it does not list the FP10 in their "compatible models" list, the FP10 connected without any problem. It is a fantastic app to tweak all kinds of parameters, and the acoustic presets are great. You should definitely try it out with your FP30.
Did you have a chance to try the app?
When having the FP30 replaying what you've recorded, does it output midi signals just like when you're playing on it normally, so that you can recorde those on in a DAW if desired? Pretty sure the answer is yes, but I'd like to have that confirmed. Also, can you record and store multiple recordings, and if so how many?
If GPT4 is correct, the recording is actually audio and not midi, so playback will NOT output midi in that case. That's disappointing. I want to record the ideas I might get during a session, and then just transfer it to the DAW later. Instead of just using the recording feature to remember the ideas and having to play them live - which won't work anyway since it only records a single audio, if GP4 is correct. There should have been a midi recording feature.
Hi there! My understanding is that, even when playing back a recorded file from onboard the piano, it would still be spitting out MIDI data. With that said, if you record the track to a USB stick, I believe it will only be an audio file without any MIDI data.
@@xyhmodid you figure this out? I have the same idea of working with it if I will buy the keyboard.
Nice
can you do a review on alesis recital pro?
I was going to get the recital pro but there are no good stands for it they are all just basic janky x stands. I might go for a Williams allegro 3 but the review were bad so I think I’m going for a yahmaha p71 unless the Williams feels good when I try it at guitar center
IMHO, the Alesis Recital sound doesn't come near the good sound of the Roland's.
Can someone explain which is better and what is the difference between NUX NPK 10 and Roland FP 10?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! While I am familiar with the NUX NPK10 model, I have not personally played one. With that said, I can attest to the Roland FP10 being a wonderful piano with a fantastic tone and touch. In my opinion, it presents one of the best cost-to-value ratios on the market right now. :)
Please tell us what ur recommendation a really good headphones for practice with that's two instruments
Get something from Audio Technica
that is a nonsensical question... go to a headphone review site, stop being lazy
Is there a great difference in sound between fp 10 and 30? I begin with piano and i got no acustic piano
There is a difference due to the speaker system. The FP30X has a more powerful and higher-fidelity sound system. Beyond that, the FP30X also offers triple pedal support, which may be an appealing feature. :)
I wonder if the 30 has the ability to turn off / down the speakers while outputting exclusively to the headphone ports. For noise sensitive apartment situations.
Yes, of course.
@@veetour Ok, and FP10 is same in this respect too?...
Fer De Armas If you plug in headphones then you won’t get any external noise from the speakers.
Is the fp 10 decent for classical piano?
Yes
Fp10 vs fp 30x ?
Can the fp10 connect to a bluethooth headphone? What size it the headphone jack?
Hey MD, replied in another thread! Thanks! -Stu
Can you plug a microphone into the fp30?
No.
Can you use the headphone out ports to record audio into a DAW?
If there is a signal OUT - then it can be recorded (basic Physics)... but you may need to put more effort into understanding the technology's sound quality limitations.
PLS 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 RD-88 VS FP-60
Which keyboard would fit for advanced classical playing? I mean, I don't know if I am there, but I plan to be there.
"You could kinda get away with that keyboard"-I was sure the PHA-4 is state of the art. Is it absolutely necessary to get the PHA-50 for professional classical performances? Or another keybed?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for tuning in and for your question! We have many advanced classical piano piano players purchase and use the FP10 or FP30X as their travelling/gigging piano with great satisfaction. So, from that perspective, the PHA4 action can definitely keep up with that level of playing if required. With that said, some players are a little pickier than others and will opt for a more sophisticated action, such as the PHA50, that has a higher degree of authenticity in terms of feel and touch. Hope this helps! :)
So... can you plug the FP-10 Directly into and piano amplifier with one cord? I have a Fender KXR 60 ( Sorry if you covered this, I am new to this stuff and don't understand a lot yet )
Yup! You can take a patch cord from the headphone output of the FP10 to the input of your amplifier. :)
@@MerriamPianos Thank you so much for replying to my question 😁 I am grateful for your time, I know its a lot of work and time to keep up with social media, So thank you. I found a FP10 "new in box" with headphones bench and stand for $450 but I was not sure if I could use it with my amp, but now I know, Thank you again :)
The PHA4 is the better feeling action, but the PHA50 is probably more durable.
Is it still possible to use designer? I'm thinking about about buying FP30 and this is very nice feature to have.
No Sir, the Roland Piano Designer app will not work with the FP-30 as I have the FP-30; I use the Roland Piano Partner 2 app to handle all on board controls, voicings, settings, volumes, rhythm track selections, etc...
Piano Designer will not work with the FP-30; I believe it will work with the FP-90 if you are willing and able to spend $2000 for that beautiful Roland model.
Hi stu can u connect the fp10 to an interface? And external speakers?
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! The headphone output can also be used as a line output technically, so that is certainly a possibility. :)
Thank you!
is it not possible with the fp-10 to record via the app?
Yes, you can record through the app. And can access to more voices or effects through the app.... and the 2 extra pedals of fp30 are not very common to use. .. 🤷🏻♂️
Will there be an updated FP30 being released anytime soon?
The answer is yes, FP30x, but you probably already know this.
Hi Stu.
You say that you can use roland's "Piano Designer" app on the FP10 and FP30. Unfortunately, this does not work for my FP30. According to "Roland", this app only works from the FP60/80/90 and so on. Did you make a mistake?
Although the app does not list the FP10, I had downloaded the app when I went to my music store today. It connected with the FP10 on the shelf without any problem.
@@Solobratscher I've tried today with the FP30 on Android and it says it's not supported...I'll try updating firmware and post the results
Luis Gomez have u tried that yet?
@@Solobratscher Did it let you change some settings?
@@LuisGowez Does it work with FP30?
Yesterday I had the opportunity to try the Roland FP30X and... It sounds good, and most importantly for me, the key structure and key action are very good, but... I was shocked when I accidentally pressed the plastic part directly above the keys. The plastic has bent a lot!!! I pressed it a little harder and the keys fell off too! For a €650 instrument, the body quality is terrible! Plastic keyboards for 100 euros are more solid...
Hi there! The FP30X's PHA4 action certainly provides quite the rewarding touch. I am little confused as to what you are referring to. I tried pressing the plastic enclosure above the keys as hard as I could and nothing bent nor did the keys fall off. The enclosure seems pretty durable and robust from my perspective.
@@MerriamPianos I understand your confusion and the shop clerk was also confused. Maybe Roland uses cheap components for the Eastern European market. I don't know. But I'm definitely giving up Roland and buying a Korg D1.
RP30 vs PX770 vs C1Air vs KDP75 ?
Thank you for the suggestions! We do our best to tackle as many relevant comparisons as possible and will certainly add those suggestions to our list of potential comparisons for future videos. :)
Does fb10 has a transpose ?
Yes. What none of the reviewers here on YT has mentioned is that you can download the REFERENCE MANUAL for free from the Roland website (in PDF format). This explains all the functions you can set on the FP10 WITHOUT having to connect it via bluetooth to a device. You can TRANSPOSE, and also fine-tune the pitch to other instruments if you play ensemble. The REFERENCE manual is complementing the printed OWNERS MANUAL that comes with the keyboard in the box.
I'm on my 5th FP10 due to clicking, noisy keys. The problem is described by many. Has anyone here experienced the problem?
what? why would you keep buying it then?
@@kevinvanhove5834 there is this thing called warranty
@@Relyfew lmao.
my only worry is how to use a 14cm tall keyboard on a desktop bceause I don't have space for a stand, I think it will too tall😔
Perhaps, getting a shorter desk or an adjustable chair might do the job! :)
@@MerriamPianos can't move the desk because is the type that is kinda mixed with the bed, is like 6cm thick and sadly with a adjutable chair my legs gets squished, if I was taller...😔 tho I'm going to measure on the store if they keys height isn't exactly 14cm bc the black panel must be 1-2cm after the keys, that's why I'm considering Korg B2 (11'7) or Casio cdp s110 (9'9) but both are worse right :( couldn't find neither locally, roland is currently 399€
Now if only the FP10 were in stock 🙄
I switched from yamaha clavinova to fp10, and for me the sound of fp10 is really awful without speakers. The key touch and the mechanism is something more than legit for the price. Additionally, SuperNatural algorithm has some very nice piano sounds. If I knew about the sound from the speakers, I would have bought fp30 or CASIO Privia, but unfortunately they told me that fp10 is the same instrument as fp30, but with less polyphony and sounds. I am not sure if this is true. I remember myself playing on fp30 and I remember a more legit sound. The speakers of fp10 are very moderate and it is a real problem for somebody who doesn't like them because he has to buy external speakers and it doesn't seem to support all the kinds of speakers or headphones.
I'm not a piano player, however i'm buying this as a gift for someone, can you elaborate on the speaker sounds? is it fp10's own speakers you're talking about? and is it because it sounds unnatural or ? if you find a solution to that problem i'd appreciate any info :)
@@rawanabd6534I’m currently deciding between these 2, the 30 has speakers twice the size of the 10 and so will therefore practically eliminate any worries there for you
I wish I had money
It looks like Roland is replacing the FP-30 with the FP-30x
I bought FP30 for my daughter. And I bought NUX NPK-10 for myself. It seems to me that NUX sounds and feels better than FP-30, it has 189 polyphony, not as many sounds as FP-30. Grand piano and organs sound seriously better on NUX. The design and functions are so similar that it feels like they are made by the same factory. Even the functions are assigned to the same keys. I'm going to try if Roland apps you mentioned would work with NUX. That would be cool
Nice review!
the keys, how do they differ from each other? you made me interested in that one...
@@viggo100 the keys are identical, only Roland FP-30X has more sounds, which are assigned to Bb0-G#1 on NUX, and Roland Bb0-C3 or beyond.
NUX Chip: Dream 5708 DSP with 189 polyphony, 12 instruments
FP-30X Chip: SuperNATURAL with 256 polyphony, 54 instruments
The buttons are identical, but Roland placed them vertically, and NUX horizontally. the rest of the mold is identical, including the dimensions.
The speakers are identical 2x10.5W (sound weak, you need to practice with the headphones, then the sound is pristine on both, I prefer NUX sound, no bias here as I own both)
BTW
I have very good hearing, I measured my ears up to over 20kHz while my friends usually stop hearing sound above 15.5kHz.
I use Philips Fidelio X1 headphones to practice and to test the sound.
On Roland FP-30X, when you hold the piano keys more than 75% way down, you can hear some high frequency buzz which doesn't fade out, as long as you keep the piano key down.
The volume of that buzz is very minimum and you can hardly hear it, but i can, my friends said they can't hear anything.
When I did the same test on NUX, the sound is perfectly clean, no matter what velocity, percentage of the piano key down, holding, releasing, pulsing, there is no buzz, except the desired note sound.
On Roland, the high frequency buzz is on EVERY key held at 75% down. It sounds like some end of the frequency gate, which they set maybe to 15kHz and assumed nobody would hear it anyway. I can and it irritates me to the extent I don;t want to play on Roland at all. Especially when you play pianissimo and that buzz level is comparable to the note sound. It will freak you out, and to silence the buzz, you will be hitting the piano keys harder, to achieve better "signal to noise" ratio.
I absolutely agree with you. I had also tried experiencing sounds of both Roland and Nux side by side in a musical store. The quality of Nux was way much better & more realistic than roland. Nux was also ahead in terms of speaker quality. Only doubt i have is about the durability of Nux Piano. Roland is a well established brand while Nux is relatively new. Also does keys of Nux start making any clicking sound after some time of usage?
@@happylearning192 I've been using Nux piano for few months now and I sometimes like to go crazy forte and play rock boogie chords repeatedly. So far I have no issues with the keys. They seem as solid as houses. The hammer weighted action is also very realistic and feels like a real stand up fortepian.
I like the Nux sounds so much that when I record Midi I actually ask Nux piano to play back the Midi recording so that I can capture its own sound rather than a VST virtual instrument.
I'm really pleased with the Nux purchase and highly recommend it especially at this price
@@happylearning192 I also managed to setup both Bluetooth audio for the headphones and bluetooth Midi for connecting to my Linux workstation with Reaper, which is fantastic because Midi cable was causing horrible square analog noise overlapping the Focusrite Audio Interface analog signal path. Now with bluetooth Midi I have zero noise and my recording sounds like from the professional studio
96 polyphony?! D:
Yes.
Please clear something up for me... On this video - ruclips.net/video/8MrwHAipNwg/видео.html where you compare the Yamaha P45 to the Roland FP10, at around the 12 minute mark you say that the FP10 can use the piano designer app, but not the FP30. Yet on this video you say that the FP30 can use the piano designer app, and has more features available on that app over the FP10.
So which is it? Can i use the piano designer app on the Roland FP30 or not? I'm going to buy one of these. I want to buy the FP30, but if i can't use the piano designer features on the FP30 i'll buy the FP10. I'm going to do my own research in the meantime but thought i'd point out your contradiction and allow you to clarify.
I found one one video with FP10, but none with FP30.
Exactly the same question.
Now I have to choose one of them. Mostly I think I am going to buy fp30 since fp10 isn't available.
Can you please tell me which one did you buy?
And have you found an answer for your question?
@@ysh1173 I brought the FP10. You can't use the piano designer app with that, unfortunately.
Polyphony doesn't mean how the piano sounds. It means how many notes a piano can simultaneously play. So 128-tone polyphony means 128 simultaneously notes can be played simultaneously which includes notes that were sounding because of the use of the sustain pedal. A quick google search before making assumptions in a review video would've been nice.
Mohammad Raza that’s not what he said. The differences in polyphony are accompanied by differences in the sound processors. Correlation but not causation.
The processor generates multiple tone samples when only a single note is played. That is why you get a richer sound from higher number of tone polyphonies.
@Yu Wong Hey. Seen alot of your comments on this video. Planning to buy the fp10. How is it going for you?
@Yu Wong So the weight of the keys are that heavy? And does it have any clunky sounds from the keys after a few weeks? Also how is the piano partner 2 app? Does it work well and does it give extra 20 tones once I connect to it?
@Yu Wong and what about the clacky noises from the keys? Is that an issue? Also I have heard in reviews that you can access more tones in the app as compared to tones in the piano.
I bought an FP-10 and I’m very happy with it. However I recently saw my mate’s FP-30 and there is one difference worth flagging.
The position of the headphone jack on the FP-10 is at the back of the unit more or less behind middle C. It’s very inconvenient and fiddly. It’s really the only disappointment I have with the FP-10.
By contrast the headphone jack position on the FP-30 is much more sensible; on the front on the left hand side.
Have you seen any clicking on your keyboard yet? I herd Roland fp pianos click after a while of playing g
Does that mean I will have to use a stand for the sound to be clear? Or can I use a table?
@@riot4530 no clicking!
@@Nada-qn2rg I’m not sure to be honest. The sound does seem to come from under the unit.
@kingwardytube I see.. but the thing is, I want to play just for my self, not before an audience or anything so I need the speakers to fulfill at least that. If you're like me and still see that the speakers aren't good enough, I will pick another keyboard. Sooo what do you think?
Tbh you are a bit all over the place with this comparison review. You began by saying they are basically the same hardware wise and the difference is only software. Then you pointed out the superior hardware and sound features of the fp-30?? Btw the fp-10 DOES have the ability to record and play back your performance, I've done it. All in all this is video looks as if it's just been thrown together quickly without doing thorough research. It would have been much better if you had taken the time to move the camera and show the apps working.
The fp-10 and the fp-30 are quite different, having the same keyboard action and similar weight does not make them identical.
There’s the new FP30X that replaces the FP30
If only you could play while not talking...
Do they have midi USB port?
Yup! Both of these models have USB MIDI ports. :)