Differences: Roland Fp 10 vs Roland Fp 30 Sounds: 15 Tones vs 35 Tones 8 Rhythms Speakers/Output: 12cm(2x6watts) vs 12cm(2x11watts) Song Recorder: No vs Yes + USB memory Headphones: One vs Two ( 3.5mm,6mm) Pedals: Single sustain vs 3 way Compactability Size: 1280mm vs 1300mm Weight: 12.3 kg vs 14.1kg Price : 750 CAD vs 1050 CAD Ref @ 10.25
i still consider the FP-10 because i want it more portable and btw i'm a professional pianist not an amateur and as long as they feel the and play the same it's not a problem for me and i can still hook the FP-10 in to monitor speakers so i don't care about the smaller speakers
One great feature of the FP-30 over the FP-10 is the ability to play along with .wav audio files through the USB Memory (Type A) port (~8:30 in vid). USB "play" controls cycle through songs on your flash drive & song volume is controlled using the "ambience" controls. Songs come through the piano's speakers (or headphone jack) in stereo & you can play along with them. For MIDI recording, however, only your piano playing part will be sent through the USB Computer (Type B) port. Great feature on the FP-30 - it's like having a line in jack through USB port. It will only work with .wav files, not mp3. The FP-10 uses it's USB Type A port for updates only.
@@Dariocomposer With the FP-30 I cannot obtain full velocity from 0 to 127. But I don't know which digital piano can. Anyway, I am satisfied with the range of velocities I obtain and I use it for classical music that needs a good velocity dynamics.
I must say review video of the same products done by Jamie at Andertson was so fun to watch. Literally that's why I bought my FP-10. It's funny how the same person can be so different at different locations. ( Yes, I'm talking about Remie )
Mellow? While Roland's SuperNATURAL piano sound isn't overly bright, I think it's quite dynamic and strident compared to those of rival digital pianos. I mean that in a good way, as it makes me feel like I'm listening to a real Steinway Model D concert grand, but I'd hardly call it mellow.
The FP-30 is hands down the best bang for buck digital piano on the market right now. It feels the best out of the P-45 and the CASIO equivillents with all the same or more features. Weighted, graded, hammer action ivory feel with a far more advanced sound engine with a 3 trigger sensor, plus it's fully compatible with tri pedal setups. Go in to a store and try one for yourself. It feels great in comparison to the others. Also, I don't know if it was just my own experience, but the FP-30 felt slightly heavier to the touch than the FP-10. Try both. Compare with the P-45 and CASIO equvillents. Unless you want entry level stage option and find a PX-5S (it's totally boss, with a way better rhodes sound) You'll walk out with a FP-30.
Thanks for the info. I've played guitar for many years and would like to learn how to play the piano as well. I've been thinking of buying an FP-30, which will cost me the equivalent of $700 U.S here in Sweden.
@@hugomikaelsson4055 nice! I'm the same. Can't play piano to save my life, but guitarist for 15 years. Try all the keyboards in your budget that you can find. I'm almost certain you'll walk out with an FP-30.
@@Seamus_Dolan I tried both in the shop recently. Have kind of changed my mind. The FP10 and FP30 do feel different though. I prefer the feel of the FP30 as the keys are slightly heavier.
I've seen professional pianists saying that few are able to play pieces that would require more than 96 poliphony. Both of these are intended for begginers, It might be the case that even 64 is enough.
Great review. The escapement aka double escapement is the mechanism that prepares that note to be repeated in quick succession. It means the note doesn't have to fall right back into its seated position and is ready to be played again. The little let-off sensation you feel is merely just an accepted side effect. The term escape comes from where the Jack 'escapes' the knuckle. Open up your piano and check it out!! Mainly Grands, but uprights do have versions of these!
@Philip Snegirov NO, idiot, stop spreading misinformation. FP-30 can PLAY wav audio files from the flash drive but CANNOT RECORD them, just midi files.
Please clarify whether you are talking about USB-to-host (left-port, computer) connection or directly to a USB flash drive (memory port). When I first heard "audio" I thought they were talking about the computer port but I'm guessing they meant otherwise.
@@kbach6524 USB-to-host is only for MIDI communication. Memory port is for several things: 1) upgrade firmware, 2) recording your performance in MIDI format ONLY on a flash drive, 3) to play MIDI files and WAV (audio) files you have in your flash drive. What you CANNOT do is record your performance in WAV audio file in your flash drive like Remi says on the video.
@@walterbova7205 What do you want to do ? If you want your song with the FP30 piano sound you don't need a midi file. You just have to record the headphone output. If you want your playing to sound with another piano sound you have to record the song in midi file format in the FP30. Then you transfer the midi file to the flash drive. Then you transfer it to a PC. Then you import it in a piano software instrument in a DAW and then you convert it to a WAV file. I recommend Galaxy Vintage D. I use it in Cubase. There are many piano software and DAW, some free.
Hi Sam ! Thank you for this nice review with "Remie from Roland". It made me buy the FP-10 ;-) One question : in the demo I see that the volume is set to max (with the DP connected to your recording system)... Is that the optimal level when connecting to external amplification (in my case, directly to a pair of Prodipe Pro 8 V3 studio monitors) ?
The quick rule of thumb is to have the levels set about the same on all instruments. If you find that your amplifier is in the 40% or the 75% range, then you would pull down the keyboard and up the amplified until they are about equal. That gives you optimal control on both to make adjustments and keeps you in the happy range of the gain.
Question! 8:35 so both record audio. FP-10 into a USB stick only correct? In the differences's table at the end (10:55), it says the FP-10 cannot record. So, which is it? I'm confused
Show a specs comparison table including the bits, and polyphony and similar additional specs ... so we can have the most objective perception among them, please.
Just got the FP10, I cannot speak for the FP30, but I think you'll be slightly underwhelmed by the speakers on the FP10..maybe if they had them facing upwards instead of downwards it would help a little? Just slightly missing the mark on the speakers I think. Hook it up to a pair of speakers and its great. The size and the action are amazing...I can fit it in my walk in closet/practice room if I absolutely wanted. Included pedal get's the job done if you don't have anything else and the stand is great for maybe books but I don't think it's great for stand alone sheet music..I'd just use a regular stand for that. It's really aimed at beginners like myself who want hammer action in a digital piano.
@@h.p.734 Polyphony is the number of tones the instrument can play/sound at one time. 96 (FP-10) would be enough for someone starting out, but it adds up quickly when you start layering sounds like piano + strings. Each "note" then counts as two tones. One of my older digital pianos has 64, and notes start dropping off running arpeggios (piano "rolls") or other complex phrases while holding the sustain pedal. Some instruments run higher than 128 (256). "Note" that polyphony often follows computer multiples (64, 96, 128, 256) !!
I saw the Roland girl on the thumbnail and thought ”oh no it’s another one of those where the guy tries to constantly flirt with her and its super awkward and weird to watch”, but the channel name here looked different to what I remember the other one being so I decided I’d watch this. Much more informative because this is actually about the keyboard and not about the distracting relationship between the people.
Hey there how are you? I bought a roland fp10 and I am delighted with the action for the price but very disappointed when it comes with the sound with headphones. Not sure what should I do, should I buy a headphones amplifier? What do you think? Thanks in advance
But, how to record the audio? There are no audio outputs, and the bluetooth function seems to be only for MIDI. Maybe I can use the phone output and use a cable which splits it into right and left and plug those into the audio interface(?)
What is the physical process to connect other speakers rather than rely on the down firing internal speakers? Is it just a matter of disconnecting the speaker leads from the internal speakers, lengthening them and connecting them to the externals, without an extra amp? I have a pair of reasonably efficient speakers sitting idle...
yes you can extend cables from the internet speakers and use it on external speakers, headphone out will need an extra amp, but you can make a headphone jack at back of the piano to connect external speakers without needing an extra amp.
remie from roland there is no direct line out for external speakers is this limiting. IM thinking ill run with an Fp10 for now, see how I et n with that. I do want to be using an external speker at some point. am I better looking at yamaha? kawai?
There are couple of important points not discussed here. 1. Polyphony (96 vs 128) 2. FP30 has onboard accompaniment rhythms that FP10 does Not. Also not discussed if the FP10 can accomplish the accompaniment rhythms feature via bluetooth and ipad+app. 3. I have also read that FP10 can receive only 3 levels of sustain information from the optional more advanced pedal. The FP30 have many levels, depending how you press it.
I own a fp30, when I have a gig in a small setting I sometimes don't need extra speakers/amplification because of the volume it has. With my previous piano (ep880) that was no option and if I recall, that one had the same speakers as the fp10. So it can make a difference!
Hi, please somebody help here..., i´m worried for the lack of half pedalling in FP10 against FP30, is very sad that Roland only put 3 levels in FP10 when you used the DP10 pedal. What do you think about it?. Thanks!.
Do you have any thoughts on this now? I’ve heavily researched both fp10 and 30, and the only reason I can see to pick the 30 is that it has more pedal support. But I don’t know if that’s something I need or if it’s worth $200
@@maxfrombeyblade I'm debating the same thing right this moment. Should I spend $200 for the extra pedal support and better speakers? I don't care about the extra sounds, really.
Jonathan Faulhaber I went with the more expensive Roland RP501r because my family wanted something that looked nice as furniture. I went with that model because it came with many more tones. I can say I NEVER use them. Maybe they’ll come useful if you want to produce? But otherwise, the tones aren’t necessary
How is the fp30 a beginner piano? It has nice weighted keys and escapement. They keep emphasizing its beginner and "entry level" but the features on the fp30 with escapement isnt the entry level by any means into good digital pianos. This can go well into intermediate to the beginning of advanced.
I bought the fp30 5 months ago after comparing the keybed to the kawai es110 and some yamahas because it had the most weighted keys. Heavier than my upright piano but the others were far more lighter than my piano so the fp30 seemed to me the closest to a piano. What a surprise today... at the same store with the same model i put my fingers on the fp30 and the keys were way lighter than mine! A close friend used to play my fp30 was at the store and i havnt said anything to him except to play something and at the first stroke to a key he noticed the change too. Im now looking for an answer. Maybe roland has changed the weight of the keys because people were complaining about the fp30 being too hard to press i remember. But i want to contrast if people with older fp30 feel the keys as heavy as me. The yamaha (p45 or the newer one maybe) today had heavier keys than the fp30 at the store. But my fp is heavier than the yamaha. The new fp30 was easier to play but I prefer the feel of mine... but im very surprised and looking for an explanation. Two items of the same model cant be so different if it isnt a design thing...
My FP30 bought more than a year ago feels heavy compared to the Kawaii ES110, Yamaha P45, P115, P125. But I prefer it like that. I haven't played an FP30 in a store since then so I cant see if it has changed.
The 2 most significant downsides of the FP-30: 1. Downward floor facing speakers; Horrible inexcusable design flaw. 2. No true LINE OUT jack; Even more horrible inexcusable design flaw. I can’t help but to believe these flaws were intentional to force experienced consumers to purchase the FP-60 and/or FP-90. It is the only theory that makes sense bc those 2 design flaws cannot be just “honest mistakes.” With this being said, I’m a beginner, thank goodness, received my FP-30 less than a month ago, and I absolutely LOVE it for my limited abilities and uses. The Piano Partner 2 app handles all piano features easily, the ebony/ivory textured keys eliminate sweaty fingers slipping everywhere, and the speakers are still plenty powerful enough, despite downward facing directional flaw, to boom throughout my home. Overall, a fabulous piano for beginners who can log hundreds of practice hours on it before upgrading to the FP-90 which is my plan. Cheers! 👊😎🎹
the pedals are the deal breaker for the FP10. I'm restarting my playing after 34 years off (!), I used to be a merit grade 7 at school, then never got round to finishing grade 8. Not interested in any of the gimmicky stuff, but it has to be as similar to a quality upright as possible, in a compact package. The FP10 simplicity therefore is fine, but not the one pedal only. FP30 it (probably) is, then.
I like piano but not an expert in it. Please guys tell me whether FP10 or FP30 has Midi Out facility so that in future I can connect this set to a VST engine for superior piano sounds - please tell me.
@@kevinlukac I agree with Dare; as much as everyone says, "you need a full size 88 keys", in reality, the top and bottom octaves are rarely used. I would rather have a smaller keyboard with the great weighting and feel but have 61 keys so that it is more portable and takes up less space.
@@nigeldsouza6088 not even just classical music. I'm not a professional piano player whatsoever but even playing some subgenres of pop music can be pretty frustrating because of the missing keys. In my opinion having 88 keys is an absolute necessity if you're a beginner and want to play any type of music
Yes there is Transpose function. Hold the function button and press A7 for +1 Transpose and G7 for -1 Transpose. G#/Ab for 0 transpose. I wish the keyboard had a tiny screen just to show minimum.
I'm interested in the np10. With regards to recording, will this keyboard allows me to play back the music that I recorded, and at the same time let me play the piano to create a dual effect, like 2 people are playing the piano?
FP10 can as well. I brought my macbook to the music store and connected it to the FP10 using a USB cable and was able to play/record midi through my daw (Logic Pro X)
@@glipoi6528 indeed... Even the fp30 is just headphones... What a shame because the pianos sound quality are absurd in these series! Anyway, you still can output from the headphones, just set the volume to 80%
FP30 more piano realistic I would say, touch and sound ... when you compare both pianos side by side you will know what I mean, FP30 has a brilliant realistic sustain decay and a more realistic keybed. But it's better to compare them side by side ...
@@CornyChalky Thank you for your suggestion. I think i am gonna order FP30 in couple of months. Please click on my name to watch some of my immature covers. You will like em
Hey, Please could you advise me on what the best battery powered digital piano (that isn't casio, I do not like their signature sound) for under £500 is please? I am a beginner as well so a piano with phone connectivity so i can learn from apps would be super helpful. Any advice would be super appreciated.
96 polyphony is more than enough since you cannot press more than 96 notes with your 10 fingers in a second. event 64 is good. polyphony is the least important feature you should look while choosing a digital piano since most of them are good enough. it is more like a marketing gimmick. I have 128 polyphony piano but thought too much about getting a 256 one at the time which I find absurd now. You should listen to the "sound" of the digital piano and the piano "buttons" should be of some quality. These two are the most important features if you ask me.
also for the price, roland rocks the budget level high quality portable digital pianos with these two models. the roland piano buttons are better than kawai and yamaha in this price range. only yamaha piano buttons get better with higher price ranges but it is not worth. fp10, fp30, rp102 are very good for their prices. also yamaha ydp 164 is good for its price range. I made research about pianos for the last 3-4 years and clearly say that these models are the best bet you can find for the price.
@@robertdublowski5544 You're welcome. I think you might like Kawai k200 atx3 model. It is called a silent piano. It sounds very similar to Kawai acoustic pianos but you can use it with headphones so that people around you won't hear the piano sounds at night. Yamaha has similar models (silent piano) but they have higher price tag. Btw these silent pianos are considerably more expensive than digital pianos.
@@tarkgundogdu8940 Next year I will be looking for a good acoustic piano. And because of the cost it will be a used piano, i.e. rather without a silent system. The one I have now is borrowed. For now, I think I will opt for Roland FP-10 or FP-30. Thanks for the suggestions. Best regards :)
Everything is about sales these days. Musicians became Brand Instrument Specialists. We never hear their actual music. Meanwhile, crap plays on the radio..
dear purists posh english speakers, thanks you for your comparison between those great instruments . I could be more happy to be able to understand all those poshy accent english spoken words, spitted as a connoseiurs, but, maybe my next life I'll be born in ENgland, so no further need for subttitles. Thanks !
Differences: Roland Fp 10 vs Roland Fp 30
Sounds: 15 Tones vs 35 Tones 8 Rhythms
Speakers/Output: 12cm(2x6watts) vs 12cm(2x11watts)
Song Recorder: No vs Yes + USB memory
Headphones: One vs Two ( 3.5mm,6mm)
Pedals: Single sustain vs 3 way Compactability
Size: 1280mm vs 1300mm
Weight: 12.3 kg vs 14.1kg
Price : 750 CAD vs 1050 CAD
Ref @ 10.25
thnx
And price 😂
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They both have metronome?
@@riteshpamnani1711 yes they both have it
7:08 fp30
8:47 fp10
10:53 that table is more helpful than most videos, thank you!
i still consider the FP-10 because i want it more portable and btw i'm a professional pianist not an amateur and as long as they feel the and play the same it's not a problem for me and i can still hook the FP-10 in to monitor speakers so i don't care about the smaller speakers
Did you get it? I saw some videos that the FP 10 starts clicking after a month of use. Did you experienced that?
Saaame XD
They don’t feel exactly the same though. I’ve tried both and I’d say the FP30 keys are slightly better than the FP10
@Yu Wong I got myself the Yamaha P-45, which is about the same price region, and I had no problems so far.
indeed
One great feature of the FP-30 over the FP-10 is the ability to play along with .wav audio files through the USB Memory (Type A) port (~8:30 in vid). USB "play" controls cycle through songs on your flash drive & song volume is controlled using the "ambience" controls. Songs come through the piano's speakers (or headphone jack) in stereo & you can play along with them. For MIDI recording, however, only your piano playing part will be sent through the USB Computer (Type B) port. Great feature on the FP-30 - it's like having a line in jack through USB port. It will only work with .wav files, not mp3. The FP-10 uses it's USB Type A port for updates only.
Okay so the FP-30 doesn't actually record audio, only midi. She says audio in the video so it's confusing
Differences are at 10:25
They both have identical keys with PHA-4 action, and they both use the same SuperNATURAL sound engine.
If I didn't use the jump drive on the FP30 so much I would prefer the FP10
Is it possible plug in usb cable in FP-10 with computer? I like to use it for pianoteq or synthogy ivory.
@@stuchelik You can definitely use it with Pianoteq through USB midi connection.
Would the F10 be a good midi controller? For something like keyscape library or film scoring in General?
@@Dariocomposer With the FP-30 I cannot obtain full velocity from 0 to 127. But I don't know which digital piano can. Anyway, I am satisfied with the range of velocities I obtain and I use it for classical music that needs a good velocity dynamics.
by the way, the Liebestraum has a Db... everytime I hear that natural D makes me cringe...
Yes!! I was about to comment that
Liszt was really into the Lydian mode. 😂
That sounded quite weird.
Literally just heard it as I was reading this lmao
Exactly!
I must say review video of the same products done by Jamie at Andertson was so fun to watch. Literally that's why I bought my FP-10. It's funny how the same person can be so different at different locations. ( Yes, I'm talking about Remie )
Mellow? While Roland's SuperNATURAL piano sound isn't overly bright, I think it's quite dynamic and strident compared to those of rival digital pianos. I mean that in a good way, as it makes me feel like I'm listening to a real Steinway Model D concert grand, but I'd hardly call it mellow.
The FP-30 is hands down the best bang for buck digital piano on the market right now. It feels the best out of the P-45 and the CASIO equivillents with all the same or more features. Weighted, graded, hammer action ivory feel with a far more advanced sound engine with a 3 trigger sensor, plus it's fully compatible with tri pedal setups. Go in to a store and try one for yourself. It feels great in comparison to the others.
Also, I don't know if it was just my own experience, but the FP-30 felt slightly heavier to the touch than the FP-10. Try both. Compare with the P-45 and CASIO equvillents. Unless you want entry level stage option and find a PX-5S (it's totally boss, with a way better rhodes sound) You'll walk out with a FP-30.
Thanks for the info. I've played guitar for many years and would like to learn how to play the piano as well. I've been thinking of buying an FP-30, which will cost me the equivalent of $700 U.S here in Sweden.
@@hugomikaelsson4055 nice! I'm the same. Can't play piano to save my life, but guitarist for 15 years. Try all the keyboards in your budget that you can find. I'm almost certain you'll walk out with an FP-30.
DV7Dave how come you wouldn’t buy an FP10?
@@Seamus_Dolan I tried both in the shop recently. Have kind of changed my mind. The FP10 and FP30 do feel different though. I prefer the feel of the FP30 as the keys are slightly heavier.
@@DV7Dave How can this even be possible? They use exactly same keyboard.😀
Omg, thx for the video. It was very useful that in the end you wrote the difference between them. Good luck and thanks again.
One important difference that wasn't mentioned - polyphony. FP-10 = 96, FP-30 = 128
I've seen professional pianists saying that few are able to play pieces that would require more than 96 poliphony. Both of these are intended for begginers, It might be the case that even 64 is enough.
Great review. The escapement aka double escapement is the mechanism that prepares that note to be repeated in quick succession. It means the note doesn't have to fall right back into its seated position and is ready to be played again. The little let-off sensation you feel is merely just an accepted side effect. The term escape comes from where the Jack 'escapes' the knuckle. Open up your piano and check it out!! Mainly Grands, but uprights do have versions of these!
Came to learn about the FP30. Stayed to warch Remie.
It sounds extremely beautiful
The higher number the better. I saved you 12 min.
Thanks.
Lovely
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And the bigger your wallet needs to be
no you didnt, people still need to see how much difference the lower number is. not everyone have unlimited budget
1:48 she is talking about P125 and P45 which are weighted in group rather than individually weighted
8:30 CORRECTION: The FP-30 ONLY records MIDI, not audio into the USB Memory
@Philip Snegirov NO, idiot, stop spreading misinformation. FP-30 can PLAY wav audio files from the flash drive but CANNOT RECORD them, just midi files.
Please clarify whether you are talking about USB-to-host (left-port, computer) connection or directly to a USB flash drive (memory port). When I first heard "audio" I thought they were talking about the computer port but I'm guessing they meant otherwise.
@@kbach6524 USB-to-host is only for MIDI communication. Memory port is for several things: 1) upgrade firmware, 2) recording your performance in MIDI format ONLY on a flash drive, 3) to play MIDI files and WAV (audio) files you have in your flash drive. What you CANNOT do is record your performance in WAV audio file in your flash drive like Remi says on the video.
@@pocojoyo Hi, I am not an expert. How can the MIDI files be transformed in wav audio files?
@@walterbova7205 What do you want to do ? If you want your song with the FP30 piano sound you don't need a midi file. You just have to record the headphone output. If you want your playing to sound with another piano sound you have to record the song in midi file format in the FP30. Then you transfer the midi file to the flash drive. Then you transfer it to a PC. Then you import it in a piano software instrument in a DAW and then you convert it to a WAV file. I recommend Galaxy Vintage D. I use it in Cubase. There are many piano software and DAW, some free.
As a professional musician... This is the BEST review of both the Rolands... Credit to you PMT
Hi Sam ! Thank you for this nice review with "Remie from Roland". It made me buy the FP-10 ;-) One question : in the demo I see that the volume is set to max (with the DP connected to your recording system)... Is that the optimal level when connecting to external amplification (in my case, directly to a pair of Prodipe Pro 8 V3 studio monitors) ?
The quick rule of thumb is to have the levels set about the same on all instruments. If you find that your amplifier is in the 40% or the 75% range, then you would pull down the keyboard and up the amplified until they are about equal. That gives you optimal control on both to make adjustments and keeps you in the happy range of the gain.
Hi , are you happy with your purchase ?
Hi, i read some comments there was a clicking issue with fp 10, is that real?
Question! 8:35 so both record audio. FP-10 into a USB stick only correct? In the differences's table at the end (10:55), it says the FP-10 cannot record. So, which is it?
I'm confused
From what I understood, the fp10 has no on-board recording. They both can record over bluetooth.
Thank you so much-great video:)
if you are just looking for a midi controller go with the fp10...same action :)
What about the pedaling?
Weird watching Remie without Jack.
Yeah
Show a specs comparison table including the bits, and polyphony and similar additional specs ... so we can have the most objective perception among them, please.
What is the name of the piece at 8:50? 🤔
Chopin's Nocturne in B-flat minor, from his Op. 9 set.
Please give me the name of the song which is being played at 03:11.
Benyamin 1996 Part of Clair de lune by Debussy
@@jacobalexandrou5493 thanks for giving the name of the song
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Just got the FP10, I cannot speak for the FP30, but I think you'll be slightly underwhelmed by the speakers on the FP10..maybe if they had them facing upwards instead of downwards it would help a little? Just slightly missing the mark on the speakers I think. Hook it up to a pair of speakers and its great. The size and the action are amazing...I can fit it in my walk in closet/practice room if I absolutely wanted. Included pedal get's the job done if you don't have anything else and the stand is great for maybe books but I don't think it's great for stand alone sheet music..I'd just use a regular stand for that. It's really aimed at beginners like myself who want hammer action in a digital piano.
Hi, i read some comments there was a clicking issue with fp10, is that real?
@@Daniel9Joshua
No . Yamaha fanboys are trashing.
Can I plug the FP10 in an effect pedal? Is tha 3,5 jack output suited for that? Thank you.
Lei en google que el 30 tenia Premium action en las teclas a diferencia de la standard action del 10, alguien podría confirmarlo?
1 difference not mentioned: The polyphony on the FP-10 is 96, on the FP-30 it's 128. I have the FP-30.
What does that mean? How is one better than the other? Can you please explain?
@@h.p.734 Polyphony is the number of tones the instrument can play/sound at one time. 96 (FP-10) would be enough for someone starting out, but it adds up quickly when you start layering sounds like piano + strings. Each "note" then counts as two tones. One of my older digital pianos has 64, and notes start dropping off running arpeggios (piano "rolls") or other complex phrases while holding the sustain pedal. Some instruments run higher than 128 (256). "Note" that polyphony often follows computer multiples (64, 96, 128, 256) !!
@@wayneb.4987 wow! Thanks for the explanation :D
whats the piece played at 8:46 ??
I saw the Roland girl on the thumbnail and thought ”oh no it’s another one of those where the guy tries to constantly flirt with her and its super awkward and weird to watch”, but the channel name here looked different to what I remember the other one being so I decided I’d watch this. Much more informative because this is actually about the keyboard and not about the distracting relationship between the people.
he only flirts off camera.
May I know what is the name of the piece played at the very beginning?
Hey there how are you? I bought a roland fp10 and I am delighted with the action for the price but very disappointed when it comes with the sound with headphones. Not sure what should I do, should I buy a headphones amplifier? What do you think? Thanks in advance
But, how to record the audio? There are no audio outputs, and the bluetooth function seems to be only for MIDI.
Maybe I can use the phone output and use a cable which splits it into right and left and plug those into the audio interface(?)
I've heard they both make the same clicking noise after a few months of playing.
What is the physical process to connect other speakers rather than rely on the down firing internal speakers? Is it just a matter of disconnecting the speaker leads from the internal speakers, lengthening them and connecting them to the externals, without an extra amp? I have a pair of reasonably efficient speakers sitting idle...
Just use the headphone out
yes you can extend cables from the internet speakers and use it on external speakers, headphone out will need an extra amp, but you can make a headphone jack at back of the piano to connect external speakers without needing an extra amp.
Can we install LED reactive visualizer on FP10 like Patrick piestchman or Rousseau?
Don't be a baby and learn some notes.
@@catcherintherye6479 to each their own old man
remie from roland
there is no direct line out for external speakers
is this limiting.
IM thinking ill run with an Fp10 for now, see how I et n with that.
I do want to be using an external speker at some point.
am I better looking at yamaha? kawai?
Noob question : what's the difference between 1 pedal & 3 pedals ? For a beginner, will it really matter ?
No all you really need is a sustain pedal
Remie is so pretty ....and good piano player also...its nice to watch her on this video
There are couple of important points not discussed here.
1. Polyphony (96 vs 128)
2. FP30 has onboard accompaniment rhythms that FP10 does Not. Also not discussed if the FP10 can accomplish the accompaniment rhythms feature via bluetooth and ipad+app.
3. I have also read that FP10 can receive only 3 levels of sustain information from the optional more advanced pedal. The FP30 have many levels, depending how you press it.
sfomann sorry I’m stupid could you explain what 3 levels of sustain info means? I’m tryna buy the fp10 btw
So hows the key noise after months of playing? Roland has this issue right? Coz I'm planning to buy the FP10
Nice review! Planning to buy this for my RUclips channel.
she´s so cute! it´s an awesome review btw, thanks!
Solid review. 5/5
Thanks ! Really useful review. I was in your Manchester store yesterday and found this by chance on the Tube.
I just need to go back with my wallet 😂
“The tube”?
@@andrewwexler4779 RUclips
Do these have battery power enabled?
so they are no different if you use a laptop to produce the sound.??? except that the fp30 is heavier to lug to around to gigs?
Nope, same software
I own a fp30, when I have a gig in a small setting I sometimes don't need extra speakers/amplification because of the volume it has. With my previous piano (ep880) that was no option and if I recall, that one had the same speakers as the fp10. So it can make a difference!
nice video.
Hi, please somebody help here..., i´m worried for the lack of half pedalling in FP10 against FP30, is very sad that Roland only put 3 levels in FP10 when you used the DP10 pedal. What do you think about it?. Thanks!.
Do you have any thoughts on this now? I’ve heavily researched both fp10 and 30, and the only reason I can see to pick the 30 is that it has more pedal support. But I don’t know if that’s something I need or if it’s worth $200
@@maxfrombeyblade I'm debating the same thing right this moment. Should I spend $200 for the extra pedal support and better speakers? I don't care about the extra sounds, really.
Jonathan Faulhaber I went with the more expensive Roland RP501r because my family wanted something that looked nice as furniture. I went with that model because it came with many more tones. I can say I NEVER use them. Maybe they’ll come useful if you want to produce? But otherwise, the tones aren’t necessary
what are the headphoneS that compatible to the FP30?
can you connect bookshelf speakers on this fp10?
what is the Chopin piece that plays at the end of the video? It's been stuck in my head all week and it's driving me crazy!!
Barcarolle in F sharp major, Op. 60
@@midnightantelopes thank you so much🙆♀️
@@sarahhan1867 One of my absolute favorites, op. 60, I have 2 recordings of it on my channel
What is the song at 3mins 15secs?
imma get an e-piano as a gift, should i go for the fp10?
Hi! What kind of cable / pin do you use to connect the fp10 to an amplifier or speakers?
How is the fp30 a beginner piano? It has nice weighted keys and escapement. They keep emphasizing its beginner and "entry level" but the features on the fp30 with escapement isnt the entry level by any means into good digital pianos. This can go well into intermediate to the beginning of advanced.
I bought the fp30 5 months ago after comparing the keybed to the kawai es110 and some yamahas because it had the most weighted keys. Heavier than my upright piano but the others were far more lighter than my piano so the fp30 seemed to me the closest to a piano. What a surprise today... at the same store with the same model i put my fingers on the fp30 and the keys were way lighter than mine! A close friend used to play my fp30 was at the store and i havnt said anything to him except to play something and at the first stroke to a key he noticed the change too. Im now looking for an answer. Maybe roland has changed the weight of the keys because people were complaining about the fp30 being too hard to press i remember. But i want to contrast if people with older fp30 feel the keys as heavy as me. The yamaha (p45 or the newer one maybe) today had heavier keys than the fp30 at the store. But my fp is heavier than the yamaha. The new fp30 was easier to play but I prefer the feel of mine... but im very surprised and looking for an explanation. Two items of the same model cant be so different if it isnt a design thing...
fp 30 harder to play than an upright piano ? O.o
i think you can change that by pressing one of the higher c and d keys on the fp30 it's called 'key touch'
@@nickshirazi7821 That is not what he is talking about. He is referring to the weight of the keys. And that cant be changed
My FP30 bought more than a year ago feels heavy compared to the Kawaii ES110, Yamaha P45, P115, P125. But I prefer it like that. I haven't played an FP30 in a store since then so I cant see if it has changed.
Same here, have my FP30 more than 2 years now and it has pretty heavy keys compared to all the other same range pianos
Price...
10:52
If you are looking for the differences
I just played both of them in a music store from my town. I was quite impressed with how much better the fp30 is. It's really worth your money.
I mean as far as sound and feel for piano tones there basically equally minus the half sustain in the fp30
Kyle Kondit I thought the fp30 sounded way fuller and louder, probably due to the better speakers
Placebo
3:12 7:08
Life saver mate
Song?
The 12w speakers on FP10 bothers me. How bad is that?
The 2 most significant downsides of the FP-30:
1. Downward floor facing speakers; Horrible inexcusable design flaw.
2. No true LINE OUT jack; Even more horrible inexcusable design flaw.
I can’t help but to believe these flaws were intentional to force experienced consumers to purchase the FP-60 and/or FP-90.
It is the only theory that makes sense bc those 2 design flaws cannot be just “honest mistakes.”
With this being said, I’m a beginner, thank goodness, received my FP-30 less than a month ago, and I absolutely LOVE it for my limited abilities and uses.
The Piano Partner 2 app handles all piano features easily, the ebony/ivory textured keys eliminate sweaty fingers slipping everywhere, and the speakers are still plenty powerful enough, despite downward facing directional flaw, to boom throughout my home.
Overall, a fabulous piano for beginners who can log hundreds of practice hours on it before upgrading to the FP-90 which is my plan. Cheers! 👊😎🎹
Hola, qué tal te ha ido con el piano?
What was the piece at 3:12?
Claire de Lune
the pedals are the deal breaker for the FP10. I'm restarting my playing after 34 years off (!), I used to be a merit grade 7 at school, then never got round to finishing grade 8. Not interested in any of the gimmicky stuff, but it has to be as similar to a quality upright as possible, in a compact package. The FP10 simplicity therefore is fine, but not the one pedal only. FP30 it (probably) is, then.
Do any of these models accept a mic plug in for voice recording?
I like piano but not an expert in it. Please guys tell me whether FP10 or FP30 has Midi Out facility so that in future I can connect this set to a VST engine for superior piano sounds - please tell me.
I have an fp30. It has midi connections and USB. I play vst's and Ableton live via my PC.
Both have usb midi, which is in and out. Both can be used with VSTs and DAWs on a computer.
Just wish Roland would put some decent outputs on these keyboards, and 76 & 61 key versions....they would really have a winner!
hey im a noob and would like to know why is it useful to have a few keys less than 88?
kevinlukac it’s cheaper. It would also be useful if you have limited space and don’t have room for the 88 key size.
@@kevinlukac I agree with Dare; as much as everyone says, "you need a full size 88 keys", in reality, the top and bottom octaves are rarely used. I would rather have a smaller keyboard with the great weighting and feel but have 61 keys so that it is more portable and takes up less space.
@@kevinlukac If you decide to go for classical music (Chopin and stuff) you will have to buy the 88 keys. Otherwise you should be fine with 61
@@nigeldsouza6088 not even just classical music. I'm not a professional piano player whatsoever but even playing some subgenres of pop music can be pretty frustrating because of the missing keys. In my opinion having 88 keys is an absolute necessity if you're a beginner and want to play any type of music
Does it has transpose and recording function?
Yes but only from the app sadly
Yes there is Transpose function.
Hold the function button and press A7 for +1 Transpose and G7 for -1 Transpose. G#/Ab for 0 transpose. I wish the keyboard had a tiny screen just to show minimum.
I'm interested in the np10. With regards to recording, will this keyboard allows me to play back the music that I recorded, and at the same time let me play the piano to create a dual effect, like 2 people are playing the piano?
the missed note in the intro killed me,
never mind you murdered the piece itself with the pacing :)
lol
Does fb10 has a transpose ?
5:08 wtf no way.. shat ap and take my money
what loll
C7 you can’t hear the harmonics can’t you ?
What is the name of the song he plays at 3.12??
Claire De lune
*10:30** Song Name?*
Barcarolle in F sharp major, Op. 60
Which countries are blessed with Bluetooth connection?
Papageno Sweden and Finland
What?
I thought it was Denmark and Norway!
India! Using FP10 bluetooth model.
Can they be connected to a daw like fl studios?
Yes, the FP30 can be connected via a USB cable to your computer for use in DAWs. Don't know about the FP10 as I don't have one.
FP10 can as well. I brought my macbook to the music store and connected it to the FP10 using a USB cable and was able to play/record midi through my daw (Logic Pro X)
definitely. I think you can do it through Bluetooth too on the FP30 but Im not sure
yeh both pianos can be used as midi controllers
And can the FP10 be connected to external speakers via aux as well?
The stretched tuning on the Roland is such a shame. Sounds horrible. Is there any way of turning it off?
What is stretched turning?
Do these pianos have 1/4" jack to hook up to amps ??
the fp30 yes, the fp10 has only a p2 (headphone) out.
No. You're wrong. Neither of one has line out. I think this is a great weakness on theese models
@@glipoi6528 indeed... Even the fp30 is just headphones... What a shame because the pianos sound quality are absurd in these series! Anyway, you still can output from the headphones, just set the volume to 80%
So there would be no difference using headphones?
Yes. U r right.
Roland for me 👍
You missed the fact that both of these only export sound as midi. So it's not a true song recorder.
Fp30 or casio ap270 ? Please suggest
FP30 more piano realistic I would say, touch and sound ... when you compare both pianos side by side you will know what I mean, FP30 has a brilliant realistic sustain decay and a more realistic keybed. But it's better to compare them side by side ...
@@CornyChalky Thank you for your suggestion. I think i am gonna order FP30 in couple of months. Please click on my name to watch some of my immature covers. You will like em
No speakers?
ok they're underneath
@@p.davidhughes5780 Yes, you need to have very long arms playing these pianos while keeping you head close to the speakers. Pianos for Orangutans!
what is she playing at 8:51??
Chopin - Nocturne op.9 No.1
@@SNSDTae with wrong notes and many audible mistakes.
It sounds beautiful.
Hey,
Please could you advise me on what the best battery powered digital piano (that isn't casio, I do not like their signature sound) for under £500 is please? I am a beginner as well so a piano with phone connectivity so i can learn from apps would be super helpful.
Any advice would be super appreciated.
Good question
A used Yamaha p90 or p80. htey both used Yamaha's GHE board, much better than GHS.
Do these have line outputs for sending signal to a PA system?
Not dedicated line outputs. But you can use the headphones outputs with no problem.
fp10 or fp30 can it transpose?
I got a Fp 30 and you can transpose keys for sure
Both can
Im in love with lady Remie ❤️
88 keys ?
yes...
Did he intentionally played Liebestraum this way in the beginning?
honestly... I don't think so
yes, with wrong notes
I want her to read me bedtime stories. That voice is so soothing. Love her accent as well.
Whats the name of the piece played in the introduction?? Is it chopin? Would you mind to tell me please.
Esteban Malebrán
Liszt - Liebestraum no.3
Hello. Thank you for the comparison.I have a question if 96 polyphony is enough to play or can it get stuck?
96 polyphony is more than enough since you cannot press more than 96 notes with your 10 fingers in a second. event 64 is good. polyphony is the least important feature you should look while choosing a digital piano since most of them are good enough. it is more like a marketing gimmick. I have 128 polyphony piano but thought too much about getting a 256 one at the time which I find absurd now.
You should listen to the "sound" of the digital piano and the piano "buttons" should be of some quality. These two are the most important features if you ask me.
also for the price, roland rocks the budget level high quality portable digital pianos with these two models. the roland piano buttons are better than kawai and yamaha in this price range. only yamaha piano buttons get better with higher price ranges but it is not worth. fp10, fp30, rp102 are very good for their prices. also yamaha ydp 164 is good for its price range. I made research about pianos for the last 3-4 years and clearly say that these models are the best bet you can find for the price.
@@tarkgundogdu8940 Thank you :) I have got an acoustick piano, but i looking for a digital piano for playing in the evening and at night :)
@@robertdublowski5544 You're welcome. I think you might like Kawai k200 atx3 model. It is called a silent piano. It sounds very similar to Kawai acoustic pianos but you can use it with headphones so that people around you won't hear the piano sounds at night. Yamaha has similar models (silent piano) but they have higher price tag. Btw these silent pianos are considerably more expensive than digital pianos.
@@tarkgundogdu8940 Next year I will be looking for a good acoustic piano. And because of the cost it will be a used piano, i.e. rather without a silent system. The one I have now is borrowed. For now, I think I will opt for Roland FP-10 or FP-30. Thanks for the suggestions. Best regards :)
I'm not sure about FP10 or FP30 but she's very cute 😄😍
Everything is about sales these days. Musicians became Brand Instrument Specialists. We never hear their actual music. Meanwhile, crap plays on the radio..
dear purists posh english speakers, thanks you for your comparison between those great instruments . I could be more happy to be able to understand all those poshy accent english spoken words, spitted as a connoseiurs, but, maybe my next life I'll be born in ENgland, so no further need for subttitles. Thanks !