Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
@@anjalideane Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
I'm a 58 year old drummer who decided to start playing piano. I picked up a Roland FP-30x this week and absolutely love it. It has the same character as the piano I ignored in the house I grew up in. Luckily, my mother and sisters played so I got to enjoy it. I look forward to this bright new path in my life.
Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
FYI if you are considering the Yamaha P125, note that the newly released Yamaha P-125a is NOT an upgrade to the P-125; it is the exact same piano only with a MASSIVE feature removed; they took out the built in audio interface! This means you can no longer stream audio IN to the piano (to hear your Pianote lessons, or RUclips along with your piano through your headphones/speakers), and you also can no longer easily record audio with just a USB cable; including easily making piano performance videos to share! (now you will need audio cables and an external audio interface to do that). The P-125 is my favorite digital piano ever, but I would not recommend the P-125a
Such a weird decision, but I bet its because of newer operating systems on computers that dont allow for the specific type of driver they were using for audio
@@The.Boo. Not sure what you mean by that? The P125a will still work as a midi controller if that’s what you mean. But the 125a has no audio interface anymore so you cant stream AUDIO in or out of the piano like you could with the P-125
@@PianoteOfficial Yeah hard to figure out why - they should have at least added an aux in port (so there still would have been a way to listen to pianote lessons while playing along!)
@@islandtony5009 sorry I was replying to pianote and forgot to hit reply .. I just got my son a p125 for Christmas and made sure to stay away from the 125a for this very reason
Kawai KDP75. Kawai all the way. I had a Roland and a Yamaha. Kawai beats them both in terms of closeness to acoustic sound and feel, and also for the price point. I had a kpd90 for a while but had to switch to an es110 due to moving states and houses a lot. Will switch back to a kdp 120 (or latest model equivalent) eventually.
Not if you’re an adult with a job. Save a few months and get a board that you can grow with. That 700 dollar keyboard may be the last one you ever need, saving you from buying a board you won’t use for long.
Great video here guys, you did a fantastic job, but I need to mention some misleading things here. I had been shopping around for the last 2 months before choosing my absolutely favorite digital piano the Roland FP 30X. First off it also has 2 headphone jacks, and the ability to split the keyboard. Second the optional stand with the 3 pedals, most people don’t purchase because it is very expensive and not really worth it. So most people will use an inexpensive keyboard stand like all the other pianos on your list. Also even if you had gone with the full cabinet with 3 pedals, you can lift it right off the same way as on a standard piano stand. The Roland doesn’t come with any stand and it only comes with a single sustain pedal out of the box unless you go with a special package that includes the cabinet, which by the way is also a separate purchase from the 3 pedal unit. Next the 2 Casio keyboards you demonstrated here are a bit outdated and don’t directly compete with the Roland FP 30X but they did with the older FP 30. Casio’s answer to the 30X is the Casio Privia PX S5000. That is their new entry level digital piano to compete with big dogs: Roland, Yamaha, and Kawai. This is the first time I have heard the term Key Velocity, as everywhere else I have heard the term Touch Sensitivity when referring to light touch making a soft sound and a more forceful press will produce a louder sound. Key action is what is typically used to describe the feel of the keys. Which brings me to an important feature on the Roland pianos that are not mentioned here. Only the Roland pianos have Escapement simulation on the key action to mimic a real acoustic piano.
Doing a research on all of them, one would fine that both Casio (older models) got flaws in keyboard design - black keys are heavier, compared to white ones. Plus short keys (the most compact piano) means a bigger difference in feel on edge and in middle. They've fixed it on PX-S5000/6000/7000 but they cost 2-4x times as much as Roland FP-10, which combined with Pianoteq8 would eat them all for lunch. For true classic piano players - KAWAI must be tried as well. P.S. FP-30x + Pianoteq8 owner.
@@unotoli I agree with you wholeheartedly in regards to the Casio pianos. I was able to borrow a Roland FP 60X for a few weeks, and loved it. Then after having to give it back I was planning on buying the Roland FP 30X as it was in my budget and the 60X wasn't. But then the new kid on the block the Kawai ES120 was on the scene and creating a buzz and was the next big thing. I went online after hearing all the glowing reviews and even though it was priced much higher than the Roland FP 30X I had to try it. They were sold out everywhere online but I managed to find some stock at a local music shop. I have to say that it was the biggest disappointment I have ever had playing a piano. The keys felt like they were barely weighted, even less than my family's Donner DEP-20. Also the keys felt like they had no cushioning underneath at the bottom of the keybed. There was also an annoying thud as the keys hit bottom even on a light touch. I also was not as thrilled with the sound or tones coming from the piano and the piano sounded much better on the RUclips videos. I took it back the next day and exchanged it for the Roland FP 30X and I couldn't be happier.
I agree with Lisa's choice because I bought the Roland FP-30x one year ago and it is awesome! It has the sound and feel of an acoustic piano and so reasonably priced under $1,000. It is the perfect keyboard and I highly recommend it for beginner or intermediate player like me.
But Roland's new FP-E50 at $1000 just blew away everything at that price range. The only others I can think of being comparable is the new Kawaii ES120 and the Yamaha DGX-670.
I just got home with the FP-30x and some of the keys have a cheap rattle sound or even a squeak sometimes which I found offensive within the first 30 seconds. I was about to go back to the store to swap it out with a replacement when I looked up the issue and found that tons of people have the same problem and it's just a manufacturing issue. Lots of people are going through all kinds of trouble to grease and tape the inside of the board but I'm sorry, no $800 keyboard should need to be taken apart the day it is opened from the box. If it wasn't for the cheap keys I would have no real complaints but anyone who is very particular about keyboard feel and sound and might be playing with the volume on low should get a different board.
@@noheader let me give you a suggestion. Unfortunately 85% of people who try to learn an instrument including piano give up within 2 years. That means there's a bunch of instruments out there no longer wanted. Look for those people who want to get rid of their keyboards. That's your opportunity to buy a good quality piano at dirt cheap prices. Sometimes people are willing to just give them away to get them out of their houses. I know people who have gotten free pianos this way. Just start looking.
@@noheader The suggestion below you is good, but let me give you another one: start with a 61-key keyboard whose sounds is good enough and close to a piano sound. Once you know that you are in it for the long haul, you can buy an used piano. Buying an used instrument only makes sense when you have a certain grasp of the instrument. An absolute beginner is not going to know whether an used piano is worth the purchase or not, as the buyer will only tell you the good points of the thing they want to sell.
Just bought my Roland FP30X from Sweetwater using your link. I was able to use their financing programs that lets me breakdown the payments over 6 pay periods at 0% interest. It’s great because I get to enjoy the piano now without incurring a huge monthly cc statement. They have a great bundle going right now where they are throwing in the Keyboard, 2yrs of insurance, a stool, stand, & pedal all for the same price and the normal keyboard $899 ($1k after tax). I’ve been tracking the pricing for a while and it’s the best deal I’ve ever seen on this item. Thank you!
Love the advice, at 38 I've decided to take up learning to play as its something I've always wanted, I've been watching through your videos and it's made me feel more comfortable and confident to get started. Thanks, keep up the amazing work!!
If you buy Roland FP30X, you will not get the stand or the 3 pedals. You will need to buy them separately if you so wish. So I think the part where you discuss how hard fp30x is to move is a bit misleading, because obviously you can use it without this wooden stand and then it is as easy to move as the rest of the keyboards mentioned in the video. There are similar wooden stands for Yamahas (and 3 pedals for 125), making them equally hard to move if you so wish
Good to add. Worth pointing out to that the FP-10 only supports 1 pedal and the 30 is where it starts supporting more than one if you choose. The FP-30x by default comes just like the FP-10 and with 1 pedal.
I am a 67 year old complete beginner who decided to learn an instrument going into my retirement. I don't know how I will do. I chose the Roland FP-10 as it seems to have the most realistic piano experience for the price. I think that it is something that I will not outgrow in the short term even if I were to do extremely well (unlikely). And even very accomplished pianists seem to like it as something they can practice on with a realistic feel for an affordable price. It doesn't have very powerful speakers. But for me that is fine. I am not planning on "performing" on it it large venues. It is not overly heavy or bulky, which is important to me as I am using it in a very limited space. And I was able to get one on the local used market at a modest discount with an X stand and a seat. I have only had it a few weeks. But I still think it was the right choice for my situation.
The Roland FP-30 can also be bought alone without the furniture part, if people wanna move it around for a gig. Also, you can adjust the key velocity on it to whatever you desire! That’s surprisingly something that not many find out before buying it.
I chosen Roland FP-30X as my first piano. It is very amazing and close to grand piano voice! It also got a beautiful white color 🥰 Highly recommended !
Wow. Reading thru the comments I can see it really is all about personal preference. I’ll put my experience: was frustrated with the lack of emotion from the P125-traded up a year later for the P515. Still loving it after 2 years.
The sound engine in the FP10 and FP30x may have the same name, but the FP30x is a newer model with an upgraded chipset that adds more complexity and dynamic range. Also, the FP30x definitely is designed as a portable piano. The stand and triple pedal board are entirely optional.
Nice video but I agree with others that a more systematic comparison would have been nice (as done by others on RUclips) : play exact same tune on each. I also would have stayed with cheaper models, since most beginners give up in less than 6 months. Weight will likely only matter if you persist more than 6 months, at that point you're probably in it for the long haul and it makes sense to upgrade. Bear in mind that your ears and fingers (ie Lisa's and Truman's) have way more sensitivity than any beginners' do, so pianote instructors can hear and feel differences that will take a beginner many months if not years to discern. I use the analogy of learning to compete as a runner : you first had to learn to walk and run, yet when choosing shoes, it would have been a waste to worry about elite qualities like extra traction, compression, breathability, etc. Basically you want the cheapest instrument that's sounds inviting to your ears and fingers and is "close enough" to the piano. The "enough" part is where things get subjective. So I settled for a yamaha np-32. I enjoy the sound enough that I never think "uh I'll have to listen to that sound again", rather the opposite. Sure, my wife's real piano has much deeper sound and the weight of the keys feels nice on the fingers, but at just $300 US, the np-32 is a really nice starting point. Once I've established (in about 6 months) that I'm in this for the long haul, I will exchange it for a fully weighted 88-keys keyboard around the $1k mark ie like those you showed today, and if I'm *still* into piano in a couple years I will treat myself to a digital piano in the 2-4k range. One step at a time, earn your stripes, you'll appreciate the upgrades way more than if you get get everything up front (not to mention that technology changes rapidly). About the models that have 2 headphone jacks : a headphone jack splitter costs less than $10 on Amazon. So for those attracted to that feature don't let that dictate your choice.
I went to a local music store and was very overwhelmed by all the different models of digital pianos. After commiserating over the number of keys, functions, brand name, I finally decided on the Roland FP-30X. Unfortunately, the store only had the floor model without a box and no instruction manual (yes, I know ~ can always download it, but I'm old school, need the book in hand lol). Any road, I thought about it and decided to wait and discuss it with my roommate, who also wants to take piano lessons as I do. Today the two of us went back to that store, but this time I was taken by the Roland RP501R Digital Upright model, as was my roommate. While I am no expert on pianos whatsoever, the keys felt so nice and the sound was amazing, sooooooo....I took the leap, spent the extra money, and will soon have a beautiful instrument for both of us to begin our journey on learning how to play the piano. Had I seen this before today, I would have purchased the FP-30X.
I bought my first keyboard in 2014 when I retired. Got it at Guitar Center, a Yamaha p125. Went back 1 year later and upgraded it to the Yamaha dgx650 which was a huge improvement. In January 2022 I upgraded again and got the DGX 670 for a net cost of $400. It’s fabulous with a ton of sounds and a ‘piano room’ which give several styles of pianos and various lid positions and room environments. Love it!
@@gerardcanes7244 no. This was the in store trade in price. They gave me a 15% discount for trading in my my old keyboard and $400 off for the trade in. Definitely a sweet deal
Thanks for this. The most important reason to take along your own headphones when testing digital pianos in a store is that you will know how things sound through your headphones - they will be a constant - and because of that, you will be able to evaluate the differences in piano tones.
I have a Roland FP-30X and I love it. I've been tracking my play time with it and I'm at around 12 Hours of playing with 30 minutes every day at least, except when I'm on a business trip which is a day or two every other week. Great Piano, feels good, and sounds amazing. My mom got herself a Yamaha P-45, and it's not as fancy, but she really likes it for how simple it is and the under $500 price tag.
I picked up a Casio CDP S360 for $499 on Black Friday. Seemed to hit the right price target and had the weighted keys. I am new to piano, zero experience, so didn't want to pay more than $500 in case I didn't commit. Its been pretty good so far as I can tell and learning more every day.
After all the searching and reviewing and playing pianos at the stores, the perfect one for me was the Yamaha DGX-670. Since I bought it, I've had nothing but an absolute blast on it! 100% satisfied with that beautiful machine! Thank you Yamaha!
I looked at the the p-125 and the dgx-670. Also the Roland’s they showed on this video and then sat down and played the Yamaha p-515. And it just felt like I would never out grow it. I love the fun features and voices on the dgx. But the action of the p-515 won it for me
I just looked up the keyboard and was surprised to see its #1 in New Release on Amazon. It seems like a really good quality piano. I always fall into the trap of buying too heavy of a keyboard. Do you think it's heavy or pretty light?
@@PianoWithStacey Oh it is quite heavy! I do not consider this portable as it's 88 keys! I have mine mounted to the stand designed for it, with the 3 petals below. Here we are 11 months later and I still stand by my first statement. Itt is absolutely phenomenal for the money!
I tested the Roland FP30X, Yamaha P125 and Kawai ES120 as well as acoustic pianos. Which had the best feel, sound out of the 3? The ES120 brought the biggest smile to my face. The feel of the Yamaha wasn’t ideal and the FP30X was more complex. The ES120 was amazingly close to the feel of an acoustic piano with a fabulous sound.
Late response but I tried P45, P225, FP30X and ES120. Kawai is just way more superior among them in terms of action and sound, no doubt. So I ended up with ES120 with stand and 3 pedals bundle. Can't recommend more.
I played a piano when I was about 8-10 and have just taken it up again at 62. I bought a cheap Casio without weighted keys because I wasn’t sure how long i would stick with it. I had no strength in my fingers when I went to my lesson! My teacher thought I was crazy but I couldn’t hardly push the keys down. Luckily I broke it when I pulled the headphone out of the jack. I’m now sear for an affordable replacement. Thank you so much for your recommendations! I’m hoping the Roland FP 30 is on a Black Friday sale! 🤞
I got Yamaha P45 last year. My first piano. I love it. It is super uncomplicated. I mainly use it as a a midi input for my DAW. I wasn't interested in something with lots of inbuilt features. I have it the corner of my lounge which amplifies the volume.
@@Danil-bj5tjyes, you don't need to use the built in sounds, the sound can come entirely from the computer/daw. My piano is cheap with a terrible sound, but I use a DAW with a nice piano and it's great. This way you can use any sample or instrument that you want and just use the piano as a midi input.
Awesome! I wasn't sure what to buy when I decided to learn piano and bought my 1st keyboard. I decided on the Roland FP 30X!!! Thanks for validating my decision!
I just bought my first digital piano two days ago. For me it was an extremely exhausting decision. I was so close to buying the FP-30X. I went for a Kawai ES 520 instead. I'm so glad I'm no longer thinking about what piano to buy.
Thanks to one of your previous comparison videos, I decided upon the fp-10. Main thing is that it had the most bang for the buck in that price range: great sound, and best feeling keys compared to the casio and yamaha’s in the same price range, space saving and portable. I’m coming from a standing yamaha piano on which I learned to play over 30 years ago now.
Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
@@Pekka.Pekka.1296 Just want to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for you on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and turn away from all wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING BACK SOON.
I had a low end Roland 88 key model. Which I ended up hating because it had low volume through the headphones, and there were really not enough instrument choices. I fell in love with the lowly Yamaha PSS A50, which is a small toy piano, and have played nothing but this since. It's very small, easily portable, battery powered if you want, it has an onboard recorder, which can be LOOPED! and a pretty beefy arpeggiator for drums and other piano arpeggios. So you can build a backing track using the loop recorder, and the arpeggiator for drums, and you are an instant band in a box. The sound is great too for the thing. Tons of instruments. I love it.
Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
I have just received my new Kawai KDP120, 800€ furniture stand included. In entry level range, it's awesome. Feels terrific, sounds incredible. I can't stop playing it...
Kawai ES110 has the best sound quality for me it's for beginner to advance, it has the same price as Yamaha 125. I recommend watching comparison of both piano.
Hi. I'm a total beginner and I've just ordered the Roland FP-10 (+stand). For me one more important feature was to connect the piano to pc or android tablet in order to use learning apps.
I was willing to spend hundred even thousands in a great keyboard that mimicked a grand 88 key piano, and the Casio s110 was what I chose , the touch the look the sound everything about it was just so perfect over all the others and it isn’t expensive at all
So, I got the Roland FP-10 which comes as a package (piano, bench, stand, headphones) at Costco for $550 + $70 for shipping/handling if you get it delivered. It also came with a 3 month subscription for Pianote, but I enjoyed the content so much that I ended up just getting an annual membership anyway. For value in a beginner keyboard, I would pick this one. The only qualm I have is the cheap pedal setup, but I can live with it until I reward myself with an upgrade down the road.
I love Donner. I got the DEP-20 for under 400$. Full 88 weighted keys, velocity sensitive for 355$. I dont think you can go wrong looking for a beginner keyboard. Also has built in speakers that sound great, or you can plug it into your amp/PC for even more sound.
I've been hesitant to go with Donner since I never really heard of the brand before, but I'm going to order one to test it out. Any issues with it so far?
I have a P125 and it's been an absolute joy to play. The piano sounds are better than any other keys I've played. I also play an mofx8 an I refer the 125. The 8 can do so much more, but I find myself staying on the 125. Piano, rhodes, wurly, DX7 patches are spot on. IMHO.
@@pimpstick9988 it's nice to have the 88 but you don't need them. If there is a cost benefit to getting a 61 I'd go with the 61. I'm a creature of habit so I like having all 88. My recommendation is to get the keyboard that feels the best and has the features you like. I hope that kind of helps. Good luck and have fun!
I love my FP-10 sometimes it has some weird hickups when playing many notes at once for a long time but as an instrument to learn the piano in my opinion it is the best. When you play a real grandpiano and you will find that your fingers know where to go and how hard they should press on the keys. It's a seamless transition that I really appreciated when I had the chance to play a proper piano coming from the FP-10.
I decided on the p125 because I’m just learning at 70 and when I’m comfortable and enjoying it completely then I will go out and try playing higher end pianos til I find one that suits. Besides I don’t know any good or bad habits or feeling of keys or anything yet lol. I’m sure to be an expert 😂 with an opinion soon. Thanks for all your great videos.❤
I'm a pianist and organist -- also in the 70's (but not exactly a beginner). I have the P125 and am very satisfied with it for professional practice (it also has a couple of very usable organ voices and a beautiful harpsichord voice). You will be able to develop a good piano technic on the P125 if you practice correctly. One way I like to practice (piano) on the P125 is to set the touch to "hard" and lower the volume just slightly below the middle. This allows me to play with considerable weight to get a sound that is close to that of an acoustic grand with a heavy action - great for developing finger strength and transfer of weight into the keys -- both important for playing an acoustic instrument. Best wishes for your continued learning!
Small World. I followed Pianote for quite some time. After buying a Juno-X a few months ago, I came across Mr Tuna music and also follow him. I thought Truman looked liked him. Thats because it is him. So cool you guys teamed up. Keep the great content coming. Love it.
Thanks for the video. I like your enthusiastic energy in this video guys and gals. 😎😉 My favourite from the ones mentioned is the Roland FP-10, which I have purchased with the optional stand. It is my favourite because it is an entry level digital piano for beginners like myself and one of the most affordable for a very good digital piano with very nice features and very little nonsense feetures included, which would just raise the cost for no good reason. I like the look of the body and textured keys simulating ivory. ❤️🏠🎶🎹
As an absolute beginner I just wanted a "best bang for buck" keyboard and ended up picking up a Yamaha PSR E473.. I think it's pretty cool for the money .. it will be a while before I want something bigger.
I am not even half way through the video but just want to say it's an amazing video that includes a lot of worth noting points. I played piano for 5 years and achieved grade 7 when I was a teenager and stopped more than a decade ago because I hated being forced into doing an instrument. Recently, my little girls wanted to start learning piano but I don't want to buy a piano, I do have a 61 portable keyboard but when I feel like playing, 61 is just not enough for some pieces, I might look into getting a full size keyboard in the future.
I literally just bought the Yamaha P-125a yesterday (upgraded from a Yamaha PSR E-373, which had semi-weighted keys) and it's great. It feels much more like an acoustic piano and the sound engine is amazing. 1 correction to what was stated in the video; The Yamaha P-125 and P-125a (which is the upgraded version of the P-125) has a sustain pedal port (1/4") as well as a 5-pin port for (3) pedal unit (same 3 pedals of an acoustic piano). Also, both versions have dual headphone jack at the front (which is much better than most that places the headphone jack at the rear). Both let you record, so you can listen to your playing.
I have a different perspective regarding the selection of musical instruments. I came into music really early in my life, wanting desperately to learn guitar. I wanted a Gibson Hummingbird, which at the time was $375, a lot back then, but the sound it produced was amazing. My parents bought me a guitar one Christmas; knowing nothing about musical instruments and the effects the choice of instrument quality would have on my success. The guitar I received was made in Mexico, using Masonite. It had a spray-painted guitar look, and the strings were more suitable for a cheese cutter than for music making. Needless to say, I made no progress in learning to play, as the sound quality was worse than horrible. So, now I buy the best I can afford. And believe me, it makes the enjoyment of playing worth every cent invested in a quality instrument. Likewise; for over 30 years I had a cheap keyboard in my studio and did nothing with it, mostly because I could not get it to do anything note worthy. Last year I got serious about learning piano and purchased a Roland FP90X and I don't regret the purchase for one second. It is very enjoyable to play, and I am progressing nicely.
My favorite piano has been a Korg XE-20, now my newest one is a Casio PX 360m. The Casio is a several year old production model with an incredible price for the features.
Casio is so underrated! We bought a Casio piano a couple years ago and the sound quality is phenomenal. It stands the test of time too with its durability.
Right before watching this, I bought my nephew a Roland FP-30x today because I have a Roland GP-3 and I absolutely LOVE how much it feels like an acoustic piano with the weighted keys. The action on the GP-3 is amazing (at full volume, lower volume it feels very heavy) and for my nephew, who's a beginner, the reviews on FP-30X sold me for my nephew's first digital piano. We gave him a keyboard a few years back and he taught himself Fur Elise by ear, so this kid NEEDS a piano! 🎹 Great review and I was thrilled the pianist picked the FP-30x as well. I agree if you're a keyboard player, you'll want all the voices and tech, but for someone who grew up playing classical on acoustics, the Rolands are my fav!
I have the Roland and I agree with Lisa: incredible sound and the keyboard touch is simply amazing. I can't grt bored by playing it, actually van't stop playing it: a 30mins session takes 2hours sometimes. I love it!❤
I use the P-45. I don't care about all the bells and whistles. It feels good has 88 keys and has a great sound to me. Eventually one day I would like an actual piano though.
I think velocity and sustain jack is the most important for beginners because weighted is so expensive. if the beginners like piano and they take it seriously then they can move up to weighted keys because the weighted keys don't really effect the sound of the song.
The Roland FP-30X does not come with the stand and pedals as standard, there extras much like you can get for most digital pianos! It comes with a single pedal only. I know others have mentioned but it's important it's emphasized. As someone who went through 4 piano's before trying this and instantly falling in love, I wouldn't want others put off and miss out on what I consider the best entry level for feel, sound and price! - it also has 2 headphones too! :)
Another important upgrade in the fp 30x is that the keys are weighed individually. The keys of the fp 10 are weighed in sets of three. have the 30x and still am blown away by sound and all.
This is completely false. They both have the exact same key action in every way and feel absolutely identical. I played the FP-30X and fell loved the key action, but opted for the cheaper FP-10 since the extra features of the FP-30X don’t interest me, and it feels exactly the same.
@@DeviousCookieHD since you don't need all those extra features you made an excellent choice with the Fp-10. It has excellent sound quality and the key action and feel similar to an acoustic piano. I love everything Roland makes!
I would be very enthusiastic but I had to take my Roland fp90x which is the more 'fancy line' of the fp 30x to the keyboard repair store within the first year of me owning it. I was disappointed.. :/ have you had any issues so far?
Own 2 Casios, 1 Yamaha and 1 Roland and I must say that the Roland offers the best experience. However, that Italian keyboard seems better than the Roland. Have to try it out.
I'm an absolute beginner and have decided I think I'll buy the Roland FP10. The FP30X also sounds good but I like the cleaner look of the FP10 with fewer buttons on the top and also the price is better for the FP10. I can't wait to get started on my piano playing journey.
I just went from the Donner 61 to the Roland FRP NUVOLA (basically the FP 30) and I love it. I have large hands and have had issues with fouling sharps when playing chords that require positioning against the backboard but its not as much an issue with this instrument. 10/10 recommend.
Thanks so much for taking the time to put this review together guys. I'm leaning toward the Roland FP-30X. What is the music Lisa is playing at 15:37 please, love that! And recommended sheet music for that song?
I bought a casio lk-230 many years ago. It was the most cost effective solution and is portable since we've moved a bunch. My dream is to sit in front of a grand piano one day 🤤
My daughter, who's 7 and been taking piano for 2+ years, has been fine with our cheap 61 key Roland. But now we are getting into more advanced ( but still beginner stage) playing where we are playing some notes notes harder or softer, so key velocity is now important. Our cheap keyboard won't do this. Also, we are starting to touch on classical pieces that require 88 keys board. While our teacher recommends getting a real accoustic piano by the time our daughter is 10 or so, she felt a good 81 keyboard will fill the gap nicely and our daughter will still transition easily. I figure that if I spend up to $1,000 its a good value because she'll always have a keyboard to use even if she sticks with piano forever. She can play it in her bedroom or even take it to college. And if, God forbid, she bails out on piano forever, I haven't sunk too much money into it. I'm still researching, but I'm leaning toward the Yamaha p125a with the stand and the three pedals. We spent two hours playing real accoustic pianos at a gallery the other day, but we stopped off at Guitar Center and someone showed me the p125a. To me it felt like a real piano and had a terrific sound (no doubt an experienced pianist may disagree). I'm still considering some more expensive options, that have a built-in LCD screen and many more features, but part of me thinks this is overkill and will add unneeded complexity to what we really want, which is simply a piano for her to learn on. Plus, they are bulkier and can be FAR heavier.
I was researching for a beginner digital Piano and was set to get the Roland FP-10 but ended up getting the awesome Kawai ES110. I was surprised the Kawai ES110 wasn't on this list. :)
I bought a Korg B2 and it's a lot of fun. Paid $550 for it back in April. 88 weighted keys. I'm studying my scales and learning some sheet music with this great lady Mrs Whitt.
This was super helpful thank you. My kids are gonna start piano lessons this year and I’ve been trying to decide on what to get and I think the rolan 30 makes sense.
I have the FP-10. The FP-10 does not support MIDI over Bluetooth. It supports remote control and recording over Bluetooth. There is missing Bluetooth/MIDI functionality to make it work with a DAW. Theoretically it can work if you install 3rd party bridge software, but even then it still didn't work. MIDI over a USB cable does work and is how you should expect to use the piano as a MIDI controller. Also, the Bluetooth is finnicky. It can fail to connect upon connecting for a 2nd session. And if you connect "wrong" by using the tablet's Bluetooth selector, it won't work. You have to plug it in and initiate the connection from the piano. Having to reset both the piano and app multiple times is the only thing that got it working again. I've had to go through that process several times. There is also no visual feedback from the piano lights that the piano is attempting to connect. You only get feedback once you've successfully connected. The Bluetooth problems are the one major failing with the FP-10. Do not buy the FP-10 if MIDI over Bluetooth is your plan. It is fine in all the other ways though. Also, who actually uses MIDI over Bluetooth? Bluetooth adds lag. It's not a great option. A USB cable Is the way to go.
I really love what you do. I was considering buying a new keyboard for christmas, I actually have a recital from Alesis but I don't really like how it feels. Your video is very much appreciated, I was hesitating between Yamaha and Roland, and I think that I will go for the FP-10!
FP10 has been one of our best recomendations since it was concieved--- with the same sound and key action as the higher end rolands, it really pulls ahead of the rest!
I went to the store and checked Yamah P-45 - keyboard is glossy and easy to scratch, sound was ok, Roland RP-10 has hard but realistic keyboard but the sound is bad - sounds very electronic and the plastic in the middle is easy to bend. But I have fallen in love in both Casio PS-X1100 as well as CDP-S110. The best keyboard and sound for my ear. 🎉
I recently bought the P-45 and I absolutely love it. I tried out the FP-10 too and although the key-feel was superior, the sound really did not convince me. The FP-10 sounded muffled and electronic to my ears, also with headphones. One keystroke on the P-45 and I was sold. Sadly the P-145 was not available otherwise I would've taken that one, but for the money (about $400) I feel I got an absolute steal. Shows you how important it is to actually try before you buy because on paper I was leaning towards the FP-10.
I'm interested to know if the sound of the instruments we're hearing is from the speakers on the instruments, or through a direct line connection. One of my biggest *gripes* about these kinds of reviews is that they seem to just take it out of the box, play it, and judge the "feel" based on whatever the out-of-the-box settings happen to be (I like it, I don't like it, too soft, not a good range of nuance, etc.). In any case, the viewer has no idea which instrument (voice) and settings are being used. Sorry to be a bit blunt here, but that's a fairly "incomplete" assessment which doesn't BEGIN to do justice to the instrument's touch and feel capabilities, and reviewers consistently overlook this and fail to explore this capability which can greatly affect consideration for purchase and use. With regard to the Yamaha P125 (or perhaps any digital piano) ONE THING to be aware of is that, in addition to four "grand" piano choices -- each having a different timbre -- there are *TOUCH* settings (hard, medium, soft) which, *in combination with the volume setting* , affect the "feel" -- or more accurately stated, the perceived "touch-response" of the instrument. The perceived "touch-response" of an instrument is how much sound is coming through given the amount of force with which it is being played. If a lot of sound is coming through with very little effort, the "action" (or "feel") is perceived to be "light". If less sound is coming through while playing forcefully, the "action" (or "feel") is perceived to be "heavy". Worth noting also is that a piano (acoustic) that is voiced brightly is generally perceived to have a "lighter" action since more higher overtones are coming through than on a piano that is voiced less brightly. I have the P125. At times I like to practice with a fairly heavy action, so I set the touch to "hard" and lower the volume just slightly below the middle. This allows me to play with considerable weight to get a sound that is close to that of an acoustic grand which requires the same amount of force. Setting the touch to "hard" and the volume about in the middle provides a wider range of nuance than the "medium" setting; setting the touch to "soft" considerably brightens the sound and also reduces the range of nuance. For playing classical (Beethoven, Schuman, Brahms) I prefer the "Live Grand" with the medium touch setting; for Debussy, I like the "Grand Piano"; for Scarlatti the "soft" touch is interesting (and the P125 has a drop-dead gorgeous harpsichord voice). For serious piano practice -- including nuance -- paying close attention to the volume setting is necessary to best approximate the touch-response of an acoustic instrument. The P125 has four piano voices, and three touch-sensitive settings (soft, medium, and hard) giving a total of 12 possible combinations. I would be interested to hear and see the following as a review of the P125 using "Fur Elise" (or whatever other piece you may want to use): - set the volume to around the middle (or whatever sounds "authentic" to you) - set the instrument to "Grand Piano" - set the touch to "soft" - play a portion of the piece and comment on the "feel" and sound - without changing the volume, change the touch to "medium" - play a portion of the piece and comment on the "feel" and sound - without changing the volume, change the touch to "hard" - play a portion of the piece and comment on the "feel" and sound - repeat using the "Live Grand" instrument Perhaps that might give a prospective buyer a better idea of the capabilities of the instrument than just a single go at it with whatever (unknown) settings were used. Bottom line for *prospective buyers* -- be aware that digital pianos have a variety of settings (in addition to multiple piano sounds) that can be changed to alter the touch, "feel" and sound of the instrument. If you come into a store to try an instrument, it's important to know which settings are in effect. Someone like me may have played it just before you came in and changed the settings so that what you hear ("too bright, too tinny" or "too dark, too mellow") may not be anything like what you're looking for because of how I changed the settings. I would advise that you download the user manual for the instrument(s) you're interested in and become familiar with the touch and instrument settings so that you know what you're hearing, and also be able to try different settings and combinations to see which ones are available.
I loved that you included a complete setup of how to achieve the different playing touches and sounds for the Yamaha P125 . I’m looking to buy an entry level piano to learn on without breaking the bank and taking up space. Thank you 🙏🏾
@@WashingtonJohnson I think you'll find the P125 very accommodating -- it seems (at least to me) to be the sweet spot between price, features, quality, and authentic touch. While the action and feel of the P45 are almost identical, it's worth going for the P125 in terms of better sound quality and additional features. Enjoy!
What do you recommend if you want to learn piano, have a Steinway at home, and you want to quietly (with headphones) practice acoustic piano without playing the Steinway and I could transition seamlessly, price is not a concern. Is there something that lights up the keys that I need to play or convening that helps expedite the learning curve? While still being an 88 key (or preferably 85 👀). The first Dexibell is intriguing.
To anyone starting, Korg B2 is also a great option.. it’s around 400-500 nowadays I think.. I started on it 2 years ago… really enjoyed practicing on it..had to stop for awhile since I’m in school but now I’m getting back and upgrading to mybe the Fp-60X or Korg Krome 88..
@@bdailey8065 Me too! Guitar Center for $499. The Sam Ash Music Store right next door that I went to first had everything in boxes and didn't have it out. I didn't find out until later they had same Casio model in boxes but no display, selling for 599. Instead they were only displaying the cheapo plastic Casio keyboards which weren't any good at all. It was very strange and even stranger that I had to get a Piano instrument at the "Guitar" Center, lol. Well good luck on your piano journey!!!
I just bought myself the Yamaha P-125 and I'm very much happy with it.. I've been learning Piano from your RUclips videos and other channels as well. -from Manitoba, Canada
@@danielmeb84 Hello, I'm pretty much satisfied with my P-125, but if you will be using it for gig or any way you need to carry it I might suggest the P-121 instead. both have the same specs but the Yamaha P-121 is shorter which has 73 keys I think.
@@ryanbautista885 well I ordered it couple days ago and it arrives today :). I wont be moving it arround so 88 keys is fine for me. Thanks for your opinion
I can respect your choices as which piano suits your needs. However I think I understand buying a digital piano is the want for as close to an acoustic piano as possible to get that experience of an acoustic as much as possible. I have been shopping for a new digital piano and have tried all the pianos you showed and about 5 more. Now I know it is a personal preference but I zeroed in for the Yamaha p515 as it is actually sampled from real acoustic pianos. I have been mesmerized and hypnotized by the sound of an upright acoustic my mother played while growing up. I dont need so many extra sounds like other pianos, just the sound and feel as true as can be of a real piano.
My experience has been that, while other digital pianos (Roland, Korg, etc.) "sound great", the Yamaha P125 and P515 provide the most authentic perceived "touch-response" of an acoustic grand -- especially when the settings (touch and volume) are adjusted. They can provide a very authentic playing experience, and I'm very pleased with the results I get from practicing on my P125 -- transitioning to the acoustic grand is almost seamless -- I'm sure you'll enjoy the P515.
@@aBachwardsfellow I upgraded from a Yamaha YPG-535 to the p515. I've only played a CFX once and not long enough. Playing the p515 is like a drug, just can't stop, lol. Its so amazing the level of perfection Yamaha has incorporated into this piano. Thanks for the reply
If you have zero experience, like me, it don't matter what you have, you will enjoy it. I teach Tai Chi at this one place and they have a piano. When I'm there, I play around with it, getting use to this new thing. Its not a Yamaha, just an old upright piano, and I have fun.
Thanks for covering all of the best and popular brands. My Costco store carries the Rolland FRP2 digital piano and since watching this, I'm now considering going with this vs he much less expensive Donner DEP20 that so many youtubeers have been pitching. If you don't mind, can you share your thoughts on this Rolland model. I believe it's considered a step-up from beginner piano and upon testing the floor model at the store, I loved the feel and weighted feel of the keys. Besides 5 different piano modes, there were not many more modes except a church organ and a few others . Thanks again 🎹
I didn't see the whole video and although I agree the Roland FP30X is a great piano, I am a little surprised the Kawai ES120 is not mentioned in this video.
Glad I saw this after buying my digital piano 😊 Went with the Casio CDP-S360, which also has an optional stand with pedals, sold separately of course. Not that I have space anyways... Maybe one day. I love it, the keys feel amazing, more heavy than my teacher's piano - though she said that's good for learning & developing finger strength. Let's see how it goes 😃
I got an Alesis Recital for $46 with 88 keys and touch sensitivity it’s all I need. I’ll probably never play a real piano, semi weighted is fine. Just want some synth and organ sounds to go with my guitar playing. 🎉
I bought a no name second hand keyboard. I am good for now (started playing 3 weeks ago) for trying out I think that’s a fine choice. If I keep going I will upgrade - but for now it’s enough.
My first real keyboard was an M-Audio MIDI controller with 61 keys. It didnt have any sounds on it I had to connect it to my computer but it was a great first step (and very inexpensive too!)
I own a Dexibell S7. Only had it for 8 months and love it. The keybed is very close to real. If I was to replace it the new Kurzweil Sp 7 Piano, from the demos I have seen it amazing and has the same keybed as the S7. If anyone wants to do a swop...
🔍 Get the specs and details on our blog >> www.pianote.com/blog/best-beginner-keyboard/
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Why dont they have midi plug?
What do you think about the Alesis Prestige?
Thanks in advance. 😊
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@@anjalideane Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
I'm a 58 year old drummer who decided to start playing piano. I picked up a Roland FP-30x this week and absolutely love it. It has the same character as the piano I ignored in the house I grew up in. Luckily, my mother and sisters played so I got to enjoy it. I look forward to this bright new path in my life.
I’m looking at that. I currently have a 61 key keyboard 🎹
Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
Best keyboard, I have the same, amazing instrument! Get a teacher and practice-practice, you'll love it!
im 30 and havent played piano since i was 13. I want to pick it up again.
@@ZyroPapuchon18He is not coming or going anywhere-he never existed! 😂
FYI if you are considering the Yamaha P125, note that the newly released Yamaha P-125a is NOT an upgrade to the P-125; it is the exact same piano only with a MASSIVE feature removed; they took out the built in audio interface! This means you can no longer stream audio IN to the piano (to hear your Pianote lessons, or RUclips along with your piano through your headphones/speakers), and you also can no longer easily record audio with just a USB cable; including easily making piano performance videos to share! (now you will need audio cables and an external audio interface to do that). The P-125 is my favorite digital piano ever, but I would not recommend the P-125a
Such a weird decision, but I bet its because of newer operating systems on computers that dont allow for the specific type of driver they were using for audio
It works on any windows machine
@@The.Boo. Not sure what you mean by that? The P125a will still work as a midi controller if that’s what you mean. But the 125a has no audio interface anymore so you cant stream AUDIO in or out of the piano like you could with the P-125
@@PianoteOfficial Yeah hard to figure out why - they should have at least added an aux in port (so there still would have been a way to listen to pianote lessons while playing along!)
@@islandtony5009 sorry I was replying to pianote and forgot to hit reply .. I just got my son a p125 for Christmas and made sure to stay away from the 125a for this very reason
a beginner keyboard for 700 USD? 700 is a lot for a beginner, who is still not sure if the hobby will stick.
Kawai KDP75. Kawai all the way. I had a Roland and a Yamaha. Kawai beats them both in terms of closeness to acoustic sound and feel, and also for the price point. I had a kpd90 for a while but had to switch to an es110 due to moving states and houses a lot. Will switch back to a kdp 120 (or latest model equivalent) eventually.
Not if you’re an adult with a job. Save a few months and get a board that you can grow with. That 700 dollar keyboard may be the last one you ever need, saving you from buying a board you won’t use for long.
As opposed to2000
20 bucks will be fire for just playing
Also, check for people selling theirs. A local piano teacher told me that there were a lot of used 88 key keyboards available.
Great video here guys, you did a fantastic job, but I need to mention some misleading things here. I had been shopping around for the last 2 months before choosing my absolutely favorite digital piano the Roland FP 30X.
First off it also has 2 headphone jacks, and the ability to split the keyboard. Second the optional stand with the 3 pedals, most people don’t purchase because it is very expensive and not really worth it. So most people will use an inexpensive keyboard stand like all the other pianos on your list. Also even if you had gone with the full cabinet with 3 pedals, you can lift it right off the same way as on a standard piano stand. The Roland doesn’t come with any stand and it only comes with a single sustain pedal out of the box unless you go with a special package that includes the cabinet, which by the way is also a separate purchase from the 3 pedal unit.
Next the 2 Casio keyboards you demonstrated here are a bit outdated and don’t directly compete with the Roland FP 30X but they did with the older FP 30. Casio’s answer to the 30X is the Casio Privia PX S5000. That is their new entry level digital piano to compete with big dogs: Roland, Yamaha, and Kawai.
This is the first time I have heard the term Key Velocity, as everywhere else I have heard the term Touch Sensitivity when referring to light touch making a soft sound and a more forceful press will produce a louder sound. Key action is what is typically used to describe the feel of the keys. Which brings me to an important feature on the Roland pianos that are not mentioned here. Only the Roland pianos have Escapement simulation on the key action to mimic a real acoustic piano.
Doing a research on all of them, one would fine that both Casio (older models) got flaws in keyboard design - black keys are heavier, compared to white ones.
Plus short keys (the most compact piano) means a bigger difference in feel on edge and in middle.
They've fixed it on PX-S5000/6000/7000 but they cost 2-4x times as much as Roland FP-10, which combined with Pianoteq8 would eat them all for lunch.
For true classic piano players - KAWAI must be tried as well.
P.S. FP-30x + Pianoteq8 owner.
@@unotoli I agree with you wholeheartedly in regards to the Casio pianos. I was able to borrow a Roland FP 60X for a few weeks, and loved it. Then after having to give it back I was planning on buying the Roland FP 30X as it was in my budget and the 60X wasn't. But then the new kid on the block the Kawai ES120 was on the scene and creating a buzz and was the next big thing. I went online after hearing all the glowing reviews and even though it was priced much higher than the Roland FP 30X I had to try it. They were sold out everywhere online but I managed to find some stock at a local music shop. I have to say that it was the biggest disappointment I have ever had playing a piano. The keys felt like they were barely weighted, even less than my family's Donner DEP-20. Also the keys felt like they had no cushioning underneath at the bottom of the keybed. There was also an annoying thud as the keys hit bottom even on a light touch. I also was not as thrilled with the sound or tones coming from the piano and the piano sounded much better on the RUclips videos. I took it back the next day and exchanged it for the Roland FP 30X and I couldn't be happier.
I agree with Lisa's choice because I bought the Roland FP-30x one year ago and it is awesome! It has the sound and feel of an acoustic piano and so reasonably priced under $1,000. It is the perfect keyboard and I highly recommend it for beginner or intermediate player like me.
But Roland's new FP-E50 at $1000 just blew away everything at that price range. The only others I can think of being comparable is the new Kawaii ES120 and the Yamaha DGX-670.
I just got home with the FP-30x and some of the keys have a cheap rattle sound or even a squeak sometimes which I found offensive within the first 30 seconds. I was about to go back to the store to swap it out with a replacement when I looked up the issue and found that tons of people have the same problem and it's just a manufacturing issue. Lots of people are going through all kinds of trouble to grease and tape the inside of the board but I'm sorry, no $800 keyboard should need to be taken apart the day it is opened from the box. If it wasn't for the cheap keys I would have no real complaints but anyone who is very particular about keyboard feel and sound and might be playing with the volume on low should get a different board.
I can't afford any of these. Looking for a realistic video for non rich people
@@noheader let me give you a suggestion. Unfortunately 85% of people who try to learn an instrument including piano give up within 2 years. That means there's a bunch of instruments out there no longer wanted. Look for those people who want to get rid of their keyboards. That's your opportunity to buy a good quality piano at dirt cheap prices. Sometimes people are willing to just give them away to get them out of their houses. I know people who have gotten free pianos this way. Just start looking.
@@noheader The suggestion below you is good, but let me give you another one: start with a 61-key keyboard whose sounds is good enough and close to a piano sound. Once you know that you are in it for the long haul, you can buy an used piano. Buying an used instrument only makes sense when you have a certain grasp of the instrument. An absolute beginner is not going to know whether an used piano is worth the purchase or not, as the buyer will only tell you the good points of the thing they want to sell.
Just bought my Roland FP30X from Sweetwater using your link. I was able to use their financing programs that lets me breakdown the payments over 6 pay periods at 0% interest. It’s great because I get to enjoy the piano now without incurring a huge monthly cc statement.
They have a great bundle going right now where they are throwing in the Keyboard, 2yrs of insurance, a stool, stand, & pedal all for the same price and the normal keyboard $899 ($1k after tax). I’ve been tracking the pricing for a while and it’s the best deal I’ve ever seen on this item. Thank you!
Love the advice, at 38 I've decided to take up learning to play as its something I've always wanted, I've been watching through your videos and it's made me feel more comfortable and confident to get started. Thanks, keep up the amazing work!!
Best of luck to you! Happy you're doing something that makes your days a bit more special to you
Good luck ❤
Which one dir you buy ?
At 41 I decided the same, am 3 lessons in and loving it 😄
Hopefully it's still going well for you!
If you buy Roland FP30X, you will not get the stand or the 3 pedals. You will need to buy them separately if you so wish. So I think the part where you discuss how hard fp30x is to move is a bit misleading, because obviously you can use it without this wooden stand and then it is as easy to move as the rest of the keyboards mentioned in the video. There are similar wooden stands for Yamahas (and 3 pedals for 125), making them equally hard to move if you so wish
Good to add. Worth pointing out to that the FP-10 only supports 1 pedal and the 30 is where it starts supporting more than one if you choose. The FP-30x by default comes just like the FP-10 and with 1 pedal.
@@NathanKull its definitely worth mentioning about the pedals! the 3 pedal setup is only available on the higher end models 👍
I am a 67 year old complete beginner who decided to learn an instrument going into my retirement. I don't know how I will do. I chose the Roland FP-10 as it seems to have the most realistic piano experience for the price. I think that it is something that I will not outgrow in the short term even if I were to do extremely well (unlikely). And even very accomplished pianists seem to like it as something they can practice on with a realistic feel for an affordable price. It doesn't have very powerful speakers. But for me that is fine. I am not planning on "performing" on it it large venues. It is not overly heavy or bulky, which is important to me as I am using it in a very limited space. And I was able to get one on the local used market at a modest discount with an X stand and a seat. I have only had it a few weeks. But I still think it was the right choice for my situation.
The Roland FP-30 can also be bought alone without the furniture part, if people wanna move it around for a gig. Also, you can adjust the key velocity on it to whatever you desire! That’s surprisingly something that not many find out before buying it.
I bought the Roland FP 30X without the frame and three built in pedals. It is only 32 pounds and easy to move. I move mine frequently and I love it.
I recently bought a Yamaha PSS-F30 keyboard and love it. Only 37 keys, but expandable to 7 octaves using the octave and transpose buttons.
I chosen Roland FP-30X as my first piano. It is very amazing and close to grand piano voice! It also got a beautiful white color 🥰 Highly recommended !
Wow. Reading thru the comments I can see it really is all about personal preference. I’ll put my experience: was frustrated with the lack of emotion from the P125-traded up a year later for the P515. Still loving it after 2 years.
Lack of emotion from the 125? What does that mean. I’ve played it and it sounds great for the price. Rich piano sound what more can you ask for
The sound engine in the FP10 and FP30x may have the same name, but the FP30x is a newer model with an upgraded chipset that adds more complexity and dynamic range. Also, the FP30x definitely is designed as a portable piano. The stand and triple pedal board are entirely optional.
The fp-30x has rattling keys which is an extremely common problem apparently. Mine did out of the box.
My old Casio Privia PX-160 has really noisy keys too, I wonder if these new Casio's have less noisy keys, would be nice.
Nice video but I agree with others that a more systematic comparison would have been nice (as done by others on RUclips) : play exact same tune on each.
I also would have stayed with cheaper models, since most beginners give up in less than 6 months. Weight will likely only matter if you persist more than 6 months, at that point you're probably in it for the long haul and it makes sense to upgrade.
Bear in mind that your ears and fingers (ie Lisa's and Truman's) have way more sensitivity than any beginners' do, so pianote instructors can hear and feel differences that will take a beginner many months if not years to discern.
I use the analogy of learning to compete as a runner : you first had to learn to walk and run, yet when choosing shoes, it would have been a waste to worry about elite qualities like extra traction, compression, breathability, etc.
Basically you want the cheapest instrument that's sounds inviting to your ears and fingers and is "close enough" to the piano. The "enough" part is where things get subjective.
So I settled for a yamaha np-32. I enjoy the sound enough that I never think "uh I'll have to listen to that sound again", rather the opposite. Sure, my wife's real piano has much deeper sound and the weight of the keys feels nice on the fingers, but at just $300 US, the np-32 is a really nice starting point. Once I've established (in about 6 months) that I'm in this for the long haul, I will exchange it for a fully weighted 88-keys keyboard around the $1k mark ie like those you showed today, and if I'm *still* into piano in a couple years I will treat myself to a digital piano in the 2-4k range.
One step at a time, earn your stripes, you'll appreciate the upgrades way more than if you get get everything up front (not to mention that technology changes rapidly).
About the models that have 2 headphone jacks : a headphone jack splitter costs less than $10 on Amazon. So for those attracted to that feature don't let that dictate your choice.
I went to a local music store and was very overwhelmed by all the different models of digital pianos. After commiserating over the number of keys, functions, brand name, I finally decided on the Roland FP-30X. Unfortunately, the store only had the floor model without a box and no instruction manual (yes, I know ~ can always download it, but I'm old school, need the book in hand lol). Any road, I thought about it and decided to wait and discuss it with my roommate, who also wants to take piano lessons as I do.
Today the two of us went back to that store, but this time I was taken by the Roland RP501R Digital Upright model, as was my roommate. While I am no expert on pianos whatsoever, the keys felt so nice and the sound was amazing, sooooooo....I took the leap, spent the extra money, and will soon have a beautiful instrument for both of us to begin our journey on learning how to play the piano. Had I seen this before today, I would have purchased the FP-30X.
How are things after 3 months?
1 yr update??
I bought my first keyboard in 2014 when I retired. Got it at Guitar Center, a Yamaha p125. Went back 1 year later and upgraded it to the Yamaha dgx650 which was a huge improvement. In January 2022 I upgraded again and got the DGX 670 for a net cost of $400. It’s fabulous with a ton of sounds and a ‘piano room’ which give several styles of pianos and various lid positions and room environments. Love it!
DGX 670 for $400? That wasn't online?
@@gerardcanes7244 no. This was the in store trade in price. They gave me a 15% discount for trading in my my old keyboard and $400 off for the trade in. Definitely a sweet deal
@@steveSDLdelong Thanks. It will be my next one.
Thanks for this.
The most important reason to take along your own headphones when testing digital pianos in a store is that you will know how things sound through your headphones - they will be a constant - and because of that, you will be able to evaluate the differences in piano tones.
I have a Roland FP-30X and I love it. I've been tracking my play time with it and I'm at around 12 Hours of playing with 30 minutes every day at least, except when I'm on a business trip which is a day or two every other week. Great Piano, feels good, and sounds amazing.
My mom got herself a Yamaha P-45, and it's not as fancy, but she really likes it for how simple it is and the under $500 price tag.
I picked up a Casio CDP S360 for $499 on Black Friday. Seemed to hit the right price target and had the weighted keys. I am new to piano, zero experience, so didn't want to pay more than $500 in case I didn't commit. Its been pretty good so far as I can tell and learning more every day.
I really like the specs for the price when I read about it! good choice
I heard Casio has the best apps to learn, are you satisfied with the apps? 😊
After all the searching and reviewing and playing pianos at the stores, the perfect one for me was the Yamaha DGX-670. Since I bought it, I've had nothing but an absolute blast on it! 100% satisfied with that beautiful machine! Thank you Yamaha!
I agree this is an amazing piano
I looked at the the p-125 and the dgx-670. Also the Roland’s they showed on this video and then sat down and played the Yamaha p-515. And it just felt like I would never out grow it. I love the fun features and voices on the dgx. But the action of the p-515 won it for me
I just looked up the keyboard and was surprised to see its #1 in New Release on Amazon. It seems like a really good quality piano. I always fall into the trap of buying too heavy of a keyboard. Do you think it's heavy or pretty light?
@@PianoWithStacey Oh it is quite heavy! I do not consider this portable as it's 88 keys! I have mine mounted to the stand designed for it, with the 3 petals below. Here we are 11 months later and I still stand by my first statement. Itt is absolutely phenomenal for the money!
I tested the Roland FP30X, Yamaha P125 and Kawai ES120 as well as acoustic pianos. Which had the best feel, sound out of the 3? The ES120 brought the biggest smile to my face.
The feel of the Yamaha wasn’t ideal and the FP30X was more complex. The ES120 was amazingly close to the feel of an acoustic piano with a fabulous sound.
i love that experience and perspective but most of all I love the grading factor: the smile it gives you is the most important consideration
why noone talking about upgraded version from yamaha p145? it is 2023 year piano, so i dont know why is here p125 which is already 2018 piano
@@Rikipaus i tested these pianos a year ago and the P145 wasn’t available at the time.
Late response but I tried P45, P225, FP30X and ES120. Kawai is just way more superior among them in terms of action and sound, no doubt. So I ended up with ES120 with stand and 3 pedals bundle. Can't recommend more.
I played a piano when I was about 8-10 and have just taken it up again at 62. I bought a cheap Casio without weighted keys because I wasn’t sure how long i would stick with it. I had no strength in my fingers when I went to my lesson! My teacher thought I was crazy but I couldn’t hardly push the keys down. Luckily I broke it when I pulled the headphone out of the jack. I’m now sear for an affordable replacement. Thank you so much for your recommendations! I’m hoping the Roland FP 30 is on a Black Friday sale! 🤞
I got Yamaha P45 last year. My first piano. I love it. It is super uncomplicated. I mainly use it as a a midi input for my DAW. I wasn't interested in something with lots of inbuilt features. I have it the corner of my lounge which amplifies the volume.
I understand correctly that you can play any sample that you want in your DAW?
@@Danil-bj5tjyes, you don't need to use the built in sounds, the sound can come entirely from the computer/daw. My piano is cheap with a terrible sound, but I use a DAW with a nice piano and it's great. This way you can use any sample or instrument that you want and just use the piano as a midi input.
@Danil-bj5tj Yeah, that is right. The piano becomes a midi controller.
Awesome! I wasn't sure what to buy when I decided to learn piano and bought my 1st keyboard. I decided on the Roland FP 30X!!! Thanks for validating my decision!
I just bought my first digital piano two days ago. For me it was an extremely exhausting decision. I was so close to buying the FP-30X. I went for a Kawai ES 520 instead. I'm so glad I'm no longer thinking about what piano to buy.
Thanks to one of your previous comparison videos, I decided upon the fp-10. Main thing is that it had the most bang for the buck in that price range: great sound, and best feeling keys compared to the casio and yamaha’s in the same price range, space saving and portable. I’m coming from a standing yamaha piano on which I learned to play over 30 years ago now.
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@@ZyroPapuchon18 OK, but what would Jesus play? I think he'd enjoy the Roland FP-30 as well. ❤
Best choice! I have it. The touch and sound are by far the best in this price range.
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I had a low end Roland 88 key model. Which I ended up hating because it had low volume through the headphones, and there were really not enough instrument choices. I fell in love with the lowly Yamaha PSS A50, which is a small toy piano, and have played nothing but this since. It's very small, easily portable, battery powered if you want, it has an onboard recorder, which can be LOOPED! and a pretty beefy arpeggiator for drums and other piano arpeggios. So you can build a backing track using the loop recorder, and the arpeggiator for drums, and you are an instant band in a box. The sound is great too for the thing. Tons of instruments. I love it.
Loved being a part of this-- Thank you to Lisa and Pianote!
Just wanted to share this. JESUS CHRIST died for us on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and was, is, and will be The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and also turn away from your wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. The Bible is the true word of God. Please read the Bible and you will see Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Praise only be to GOD. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING SOON FOR HIS CHURCH.
I have just received my new Kawai KDP120, 800€ furniture stand included. In entry level range, it's awesome.
Feels terrific, sounds incredible. I can't stop playing it...
Kawai ES110 has the best sound quality for me it's for beginner to advance, it has the same price as Yamaha 125. I recommend watching comparison of both piano.
Everyone is giving the Kawai ES110 an amazing review I need to check this out!!
Hi. I'm a total beginner and I've just ordered the Roland FP-10 (+stand). For me one more important feature was to connect the piano to pc or android tablet in order to use learning apps.
good call! and the fp10 can do it with bluetooth or usb midi!
About to make the same purchase !
I was willing to spend hundred even thousands in a great keyboard that mimicked a grand 88 key piano, and the Casio s110 was what I chose , the touch the look the sound everything about it was just so perfect over all the others and it isn’t expensive at all
So, I got the Roland FP-10 which comes as a package (piano, bench, stand, headphones) at Costco for $550 + $70 for shipping/handling if you get it delivered. It also came with a 3 month subscription for Pianote, but I enjoyed the content so much that I ended up just getting an annual membership anyway. For value in a beginner keyboard, I would pick this one. The only qualm I have is the cheap pedal setup, but I can live with it until I reward myself with an upgrade down the road.
why is the pedal setup cheap? :)
@@bcpf7041 The included sustain pedal is a simple click-on/click off setup. You can purchase a more "pedal-like" one for around $30 iirc.
We bought the Donner DDP-80 and we love it. 88 full size weighted keys. Velocity sensitive keys, sounds fabulous!
all the most important features right there! and the most important-- that you love it!
I love Donner. I got the DEP-20 for under 400$. Full 88 weighted keys, velocity sensitive for 355$. I dont think you can go wrong looking for a beginner keyboard. Also has built in speakers that sound great, or you can plug it into your amp/PC for even more sound.
I've been hesitant to go with Donner since I never really heard of the brand before, but I'm going to order one to test it out. Any issues with it so far?
I have a P125 and it's been an absolute joy to play. The piano sounds are better than any other keys I've played. I also play an mofx8 an I refer the 125. The 8 can do so much more, but I find myself staying on the 125. Piano, rhodes, wurly, DX7 patches are spot on. IMHO.
truly love the 125!
As a beginner who really wants to learn piano do you recommend 61 keys or 88?
@@pimpstick9988 it's nice to have the 88 but you don't need them. If there is a cost benefit to getting a 61 I'd go with the 61. I'm a creature of habit so I like having all 88. My recommendation is to get the keyboard that feels the best and has the features you like. I hope that kind of helps. Good luck and have fun!
I love my FP-10 sometimes it has some weird hickups when playing many notes at once for a long time but as an instrument to learn the piano in my opinion it is the best. When you play a real grandpiano and you will find that your fingers know where to go and how hard they should press on the keys. It's a seamless transition that I really appreciated when I had the chance to play a proper piano coming from the FP-10.
I decided on the p125 because I’m just learning at 70 and when I’m comfortable and enjoying it completely then I will go out and try playing higher end pianos til I find one that suits. Besides I don’t know any good or bad habits or feeling of keys or anything yet lol. I’m sure to be an expert 😂 with an opinion soon.
Thanks for all your great videos.❤
I'm also a beginner at 69 years young.
I'm a pianist and organist -- also in the 70's (but not exactly a beginner). I have the P125 and am very satisfied with it for professional practice (it also has a couple of very usable organ voices and a beautiful harpsichord voice). You will be able to develop a good piano technic on the P125 if you practice correctly. One way I like to practice (piano) on the P125 is to set the touch to "hard" and lower the volume just slightly below the middle. This allows me to play with considerable weight to get a sound that is close to that of an acoustic grand with a heavy action - great for developing finger strength and transfer of weight into the keys -- both important for playing an acoustic instrument. Best wishes for your continued learning!
Small World. I followed Pianote for quite some time. After buying a Juno-X a few months ago, I came across Mr Tuna music and also follow him. I thought Truman looked liked him. Thats because it is him. So cool you guys teamed up. Keep the great content coming. Love it.
Kawai ES120 is what I went for, keyboard felt best to me and, though there aren't many, has a reasonable selection of sounds.
Thanks for the video. I like your enthusiastic energy in this video guys and gals. 😎😉 My favourite from the ones mentioned is the Roland FP-10, which I have purchased with the optional stand. It is my favourite because it is an entry level digital piano for beginners like myself and one of the most affordable for a very good digital piano with very nice features and very little nonsense feetures included, which would just raise the cost for no good reason. I like the look of the body and textured keys simulating ivory. ❤️🏠🎶🎹
As an absolute beginner I just wanted a "best bang for buck" keyboard and ended up picking up a Yamaha PSR E473.. I think it's pretty cool for the money .. it will be a while before I want something bigger.
I am not even half way through the video but just want to say it's an amazing video that includes a lot of worth noting points. I played piano for 5 years and achieved grade 7 when I was a teenager and stopped more than a decade ago because I hated being forced into doing an instrument. Recently, my little girls wanted to start learning piano but I don't want to buy a piano, I do have a 61 portable keyboard but when I feel like playing, 61 is just not enough for some pieces, I might look into getting a full size keyboard in the future.
I literally just bought the Yamaha P-125a yesterday (upgraded from a Yamaha PSR E-373, which had semi-weighted keys) and it's great. It feels much more like an acoustic piano and the sound engine is amazing.
1 correction to what was stated in the video; The Yamaha P-125 and P-125a (which is the upgraded version of the P-125) has a sustain pedal port (1/4") as well as a 5-pin port for (3) pedal unit (same 3 pedals of an acoustic piano).
Also, both versions have dual headphone jack at the front (which is much better than most that places the headphone jack at the rear). Both let you record, so you can listen to your playing.
I have a different perspective regarding the selection of musical instruments. I came into music really early in my life, wanting desperately to learn guitar. I wanted a Gibson Hummingbird, which at the time was $375, a lot back then, but the sound it produced was amazing. My parents bought me a guitar one Christmas; knowing nothing about musical instruments and the effects the choice of instrument quality would have on my success. The guitar I received was made in Mexico, using Masonite. It had a spray-painted guitar look, and the strings were more suitable for a cheese cutter than for music making. Needless to say, I made no progress in learning to play, as the sound quality was worse than horrible. So, now I buy the best I can afford. And believe me, it makes the enjoyment of playing worth every cent invested in a quality instrument. Likewise; for over 30 years I had a cheap keyboard in my studio and did nothing with it, mostly because I could not get it to do anything note worthy. Last year I got serious about learning piano and purchased a Roland FP90X and I don't regret the purchase for one second. It is very enjoyable to play, and I am progressing nicely.
Yamaha p45 - I love it! 😊 simply and beautiful 😍
My favorite piano has been a Korg XE-20, now my newest one is a Casio PX 360m. The Casio is a several year old production model with an incredible price for the features.
Casio is so underrated! We bought a Casio piano a couple years ago and the sound quality is phenomenal. It stands the test of time too with its durability.
Right before watching this, I bought my nephew a Roland FP-30x today because I have a Roland GP-3 and I absolutely LOVE how much it feels like an acoustic piano with the weighted keys. The action on the GP-3 is amazing (at full volume, lower volume it feels very heavy) and for my nephew, who's a beginner, the reviews on FP-30X sold me for my nephew's first digital piano. We gave him a keyboard a few years back and he taught himself Fur Elise by ear, so this kid NEEDS a piano! 🎹 Great review and I was thrilled the pianist picked the FP-30x as well. I agree if you're a keyboard player, you'll want all the voices and tech, but for someone who grew up playing classical on acoustics, the Rolands are my fav!
I have the Roland and I agree with Lisa: incredible sound and the keyboard touch is simply amazing. I can't grt bored by playing it, actually van't stop playing it: a 30mins session takes 2hours sometimes. I love it!❤
when i find myself in times of trouble... @4:06, love your energy guys
I use the P-45. I don't care about all the bells and whistles. It feels good has 88 keys and has a great sound to me. Eventually one day I would like an actual piano though.
I think velocity and sustain jack is the most important for beginners because weighted is so expensive. if the beginners like piano and they take it seriously then they can move up to weighted keys because the weighted keys don't really effect the sound of the song.
The Roland FP-30X does not come with the stand and pedals as standard, there extras much like you can get for most digital pianos! It comes with a single pedal only. I know others have mentioned but it's important it's emphasized. As someone who went through 4 piano's before trying this and instantly falling in love, I wouldn't want others put off and miss out on what I consider the best entry level for feel, sound and price! - it also has 2 headphones too! :)
I just bought Casio CDP S 110. Good for beginners. My son Love it.
Another important upgrade in the fp 30x is that the keys are weighed individually. The keys of the fp 10 are weighed in sets of three. have the 30x and still am blown away by sound and all.
that is really good info!
This is completely false. They both have the exact same key action in every way and feel absolutely identical. I played the FP-30X and fell loved the key action, but opted for the cheaper FP-10 since the extra features of the FP-30X don’t interest me, and it feels exactly the same.
@@DeviousCookieHD since you don't need all those extra features you made an excellent choice with the Fp-10. It has excellent sound quality and the key action and feel similar to an acoustic piano. I love everything Roland makes!
I would be very enthusiastic but I had to take my Roland fp90x which is the more 'fancy line' of the fp 30x to the keyboard repair store within the first year of me owning it. I was disappointed.. :/ have you had any issues so far?
Own 2 Casios, 1 Yamaha and 1 Roland and I must say that the Roland offers the best experience. However, that Italian keyboard seems better than the Roland. Have to try it out.
Lisa is so awesome! Love her bright positive fun energy! 😊
I'm an absolute beginner and have decided I think I'll buy the Roland FP10. The FP30X also sounds good but I like the cleaner look of the FP10 with fewer buttons on the top and also the price is better for the FP10. I can't wait to get started on my piano playing journey.
I got the Roland fp-30 and it is just amazing. Can recommend it to everyone
So glad to see this because ive just ordered Roland 30x and now im certain ive made the right choice.
I just went from the Donner 61 to the Roland FRP NUVOLA (basically the FP 30) and I love it.
I have large hands and have had issues with fouling sharps when playing chords that require positioning against the backboard but its not as much an issue with this instrument.
10/10 recommend.
Recently purchased a Korg Liano. Good stuff!
3:10 The "quite" was on point! 😮
Thanks so much for taking the time to put this review together guys. I'm leaning toward the Roland FP-30X. What is the music Lisa is playing at 15:37 please, love that! And recommended sheet music for that song?
I bought a casio lk-230 many years ago. It was the most cost effective solution and is portable since we've moved a bunch. My dream is to sit in front of a grand piano one day 🤤
- keep dreaming -- and practicing -- that day will come! :-)
My daughter, who's 7 and been taking piano for 2+ years, has been fine with our cheap 61 key Roland. But now we are getting into more advanced ( but still beginner stage) playing where we are playing some notes notes harder or softer, so key velocity is now important. Our cheap keyboard won't do this. Also, we are starting to touch on classical pieces that require 88 keys board. While our teacher recommends getting a real accoustic piano by the time our daughter is 10 or so, she felt a good 81 keyboard will fill the gap nicely and our daughter will still transition easily. I figure that if I spend up to $1,000 its a good value because she'll always have a keyboard to use even if she sticks with piano forever. She can play it in her bedroom or even take it to college. And if, God forbid, she bails out on piano forever, I haven't sunk too much money into it.
I'm still researching, but I'm leaning toward the Yamaha p125a with the stand and the three pedals. We spent two hours playing real accoustic pianos at a gallery the other day, but we stopped off at Guitar Center and someone showed me the p125a. To me it felt like a real piano and had a terrific sound (no doubt an experienced pianist may disagree). I'm still considering some more expensive options, that have a built-in LCD screen and many more features, but part of me thinks this is overkill and will add unneeded complexity to what we really want, which is simply a piano for her to learn on. Plus, they are bulkier and can be FAR heavier.
I love my Casio CDP-S100 BK for beginner it is perfect.
I was researching for a beginner digital Piano and was set to get the Roland FP-10 but ended up getting the awesome Kawai ES110. I was surprised the Kawai ES110 wasn't on this list. :)
people are loving the kawai!! we didnt have access to it when we did this comparison
I bought a Korg B2 and it's a lot of fun. Paid $550 for it back in April. 88 weighted keys. I'm studying my scales and learning some sheet music with this great lady Mrs Whitt.
sounds like a great keyboard for a great price! I love Korg stuff Im sad we didnt get to feature any here
Lisa is like a small kid . And cute hairstyle too 🥰. Loved the presentation
This was super helpful thank you. My kids are gonna start piano lessons this year and I’ve been trying to decide on what to get and I think the rolan 30 makes sense.
I thought I knew what keyboard to buy, but now ??? Thank you both for your input. Happy New Year!!
(Time to watch this video again)
I just got a $70 one with stand and a pedal. The two 20w speakers sound fine and spring loaded keys feel ok.
I have the FP-10. The FP-10 does not support MIDI over Bluetooth. It supports remote control and recording over Bluetooth. There is missing Bluetooth/MIDI functionality to make it work with a DAW. Theoretically it can work if you install 3rd party bridge software, but even then it still didn't work.
MIDI over a USB cable does work and is how you should expect to use the piano as a MIDI controller.
Also, the Bluetooth is finnicky. It can fail to connect upon connecting for a 2nd session. And if you connect "wrong" by using the tablet's Bluetooth selector, it won't work. You have to plug it in and initiate the connection from the piano. Having to reset both the piano and app multiple times is the only thing that got it working again. I've had to go through that process several times. There is also no visual feedback from the piano lights that the piano is attempting to connect. You only get feedback once you've successfully connected.
The Bluetooth problems are the one major failing with the FP-10. Do not buy the FP-10 if MIDI over Bluetooth is your plan. It is fine in all the other ways though. Also, who actually uses MIDI over Bluetooth? Bluetooth adds lag. It's not a great option. A USB cable Is the way to go.
I really love what you do. I was considering buying a new keyboard for christmas, I actually have a recital from Alesis but I don't really like how it feels. Your video is very much appreciated, I was hesitating between Yamaha and Roland, and I think that I will go for the FP-10!
FP10 has been one of our best recomendations since it was concieved--- with the same sound and key action as the higher end rolands, it really pulls ahead of the rest!
@@PianoteOfficial Thanks !
I went to the store and checked Yamah P-45 - keyboard is glossy and easy to scratch, sound was ok, Roland RP-10 has hard but realistic keyboard but the sound is bad - sounds very electronic and the plastic in the middle is easy to bend. But I have fallen in love in both Casio PS-X1100 as well as CDP-S110. The best keyboard and sound for my ear. 🎉
I own a Yamaha Clavinova CLP 320 built back in 1983. I think that I would go with the Dexibell. If I wanted to change. Maybe one day I will do it.
I own both the Yamaha P45 and the Roland FP-30X. Am I happy? You bet!
what a combo!!
I recently bought the P-45 and I absolutely love it. I tried out the FP-10 too and although the key-feel was superior, the sound really did not convince me. The FP-10 sounded muffled and electronic to my ears, also with headphones. One keystroke on the P-45 and I was sold. Sadly the P-145 was not available otherwise I would've taken that one, but for the money (about $400) I feel I got an absolute steal. Shows you how important it is to actually try before you buy because on paper I was leaning towards the FP-10.
Just got a Casio CTS1 for my son... now I'm looking for myself. I want it all but cant justify it.
I'm interested to know if the sound of the instruments we're hearing is from the speakers on the instruments, or through a direct line connection.
One of my biggest *gripes* about these kinds of reviews is that they seem to just take it out of the box, play it, and judge the "feel" based on whatever the out-of-the-box settings happen to be (I like it, I don't like it, too soft, not a good range of nuance, etc.). In any case, the viewer has no idea which instrument (voice) and settings are being used.
Sorry to be a bit blunt here, but that's a fairly "incomplete" assessment which doesn't BEGIN to do justice to the instrument's touch and feel capabilities, and reviewers consistently overlook this and fail to explore this capability which can greatly affect consideration for purchase and use.
With regard to the Yamaha P125 (or perhaps any digital piano) ONE THING to be aware of is that, in addition to four "grand" piano choices -- each having a different timbre -- there are *TOUCH* settings (hard, medium, soft) which, *in combination with the volume setting* , affect the "feel" -- or more accurately stated, the perceived "touch-response" of the instrument.
The perceived "touch-response" of an instrument is how much sound is coming through given the amount of force with which it is being played. If a lot of sound is coming through with very little effort, the "action" (or "feel") is perceived to be "light". If less sound is coming through while playing forcefully, the "action" (or "feel") is perceived to be "heavy". Worth noting also is that a piano (acoustic) that is voiced brightly is generally perceived to have a "lighter" action since more higher overtones are coming through than on a piano that is voiced less brightly.
I have the P125. At times I like to practice with a fairly heavy action, so I set the touch to "hard" and lower the volume just slightly below the middle. This allows me to play with considerable weight to get a sound that is close to that of an acoustic grand which requires the same amount of force.
Setting the touch to "hard" and the volume about in the middle provides a wider range of nuance than the "medium" setting; setting the touch to "soft" considerably brightens the sound and also reduces the range of nuance.
For playing classical (Beethoven, Schuman, Brahms) I prefer the "Live Grand" with the medium touch setting; for Debussy, I like the "Grand Piano"; for Scarlatti the "soft" touch is interesting (and the P125 has a drop-dead gorgeous harpsichord voice). For serious piano practice -- including nuance -- paying close attention to the volume setting is necessary to best approximate the touch-response of an acoustic instrument.
The P125 has four piano voices, and three touch-sensitive settings (soft, medium, and hard) giving a total of 12 possible combinations. I would be interested to hear and see the following as a review of the P125 using "Fur Elise" (or whatever other piece you may want to use):
- set the volume to around the middle (or whatever sounds "authentic" to you)
- set the instrument to "Grand Piano"
- set the touch to "soft"
- play a portion of the piece and comment on the "feel" and sound
- without changing the volume, change the touch to "medium"
- play a portion of the piece and comment on the "feel" and sound
- without changing the volume, change the touch to "hard"
- play a portion of the piece and comment on the "feel" and sound
- repeat using the "Live Grand" instrument
Perhaps that might give a prospective buyer a better idea of the capabilities of the instrument than just a single go at it with whatever (unknown) settings were used.
Bottom line for *prospective buyers* -- be aware that digital pianos have a variety of settings (in addition to multiple piano sounds) that can be changed to alter the touch, "feel" and sound of the instrument. If you come into a store to try an instrument, it's important to know which settings are in effect. Someone like me may have played it just before you came in and changed the settings so that what you hear ("too bright, too tinny" or "too dark, too mellow") may not be anything like what you're looking for because of how I changed the settings.
I would advise that you download the user manual for the instrument(s) you're interested in and become familiar with the touch and instrument settings so that you know what you're hearing, and also be able to try different settings and combinations to see which ones are available.
P125very good
I loved that you included a complete setup of how to achieve the different playing touches and sounds for the Yamaha P125 . I’m looking to buy an entry level piano to learn on without breaking the bank and taking up space.
Thank you 🙏🏾
@@WashingtonJohnson I think you'll find the P125 very accommodating -- it seems (at least to me) to be the sweet spot between price, features, quality, and authentic touch. While the action and feel of the P45 are almost identical, it's worth going for the P125 in terms of better sound quality and additional features. Enjoy!
Thank you I have an old wooden one that was made in the beginning of previous century , but was bought for me by my parents when I was 12
What do you recommend if you want to learn piano, have a Steinway at home, and you want to quietly (with headphones) practice acoustic piano without playing the Steinway and I could transition seamlessly, price is not a concern. Is there something that lights up the keys that I need to play or convening that helps expedite the learning curve? While still being an 88 key (or preferably 85 👀). The first Dexibell is intriguing.
Definitely, my favorite is the YAMAHA P-125🎹🎶😌💕
excellent, excellent choice!!
@@PianoteOfficial Thank you🥰💕
me too!
To anyone starting, Korg B2 is also a great option.. it’s around 400-500 nowadays I think.. I started on it 2 years ago… really enjoyed practicing on it..had to stop for awhile since I’m in school but now I’m getting back and upgrading to mybe the Fp-60X or Korg Krome 88..
I'm a beginner and I bought a Casio cdp s360 a few weeks ago. I love it and it offers a lot of features for an affordable price!
just looked it up and seems like its got all the right stuff! good buy!
I bought the same on Black Friday, lol. its been great so far. I am beginner too.
@@strykerace Glad you're enjoying yours as well. I bought mine from Guitar center on Cyber Monday for $499.😉
@@bdailey8065 Me too! Guitar Center for $499. The Sam Ash Music Store right next door that I went to first had everything in boxes and didn't have it out. I didn't find out until later they had same Casio model in boxes but no display, selling for 599. Instead they were only displaying the cheapo plastic Casio keyboards which weren't any good at all. It was very strange and even stranger that I had to get a Piano instrument at the "Guitar" Center, lol. Well good luck on your piano journey!!!
@@strykerace Sam Ash loss out on a sale,shame on them anyway for selling cheap junk instruments lol. Good luck to you also on your piano journey.
I just bought myself the Yamaha P-125 and I'm very much happy with it..
I've been learning Piano from your RUclips videos and other channels as well.
-from Manitoba, Canada
any change of opinion after 3 months?
@@danielmeb84 Hello,
I'm pretty much satisfied with my P-125, but if you will be using it for gig or any way you need to carry it I might suggest the P-121 instead. both have the same specs but the Yamaha P-121 is shorter which has 73 keys I think.
@@ryanbautista885 well I ordered it couple days ago and it arrives today :). I wont be moving it arround so 88 keys is fine for me. Thanks for your opinion
Just got the Roland fp30x and i absolutely love it!
Helpful info! Too much camera movement, however. I needed a Dramamine.
I can respect your choices as which piano suits your needs. However I think I understand buying a digital piano is the want for as close to an acoustic piano as possible to get that experience of an acoustic as much as possible. I have been shopping for a new digital piano and have tried all the pianos you showed and about 5 more. Now I know it is a personal preference but I zeroed in for the Yamaha p515 as it is actually sampled from real acoustic pianos. I have been mesmerized and hypnotized by the sound of an upright acoustic my mother played while growing up. I dont need so many extra sounds like other pianos, just the sound and feel as true as can be of a real piano.
My experience has been that, while other digital pianos (Roland, Korg, etc.) "sound great", the Yamaha P125 and P515 provide the most authentic perceived "touch-response" of an acoustic grand -- especially when the settings (touch and volume) are adjusted. They can provide a very authentic playing experience, and I'm very pleased with the results I get from practicing on my P125 -- transitioning to the acoustic grand is almost seamless -- I'm sure you'll enjoy the P515.
@@aBachwardsfellow I upgraded from a Yamaha YPG-535 to the p515. I've only played a CFX once and not long enough. Playing the p515 is like a drug, just can't stop, lol. Its so amazing the level of perfection Yamaha has incorporated into this piano. Thanks for the reply
If you have zero experience, like me, it don't matter what you have, you will enjoy it. I teach Tai Chi at this one place and they have a piano. When I'm there, I play around with it, getting use to this new thing. Its not a Yamaha, just an old upright piano, and I have fun.
Thanks for covering all of the best and popular brands. My Costco store carries the Rolland FRP2 digital piano and since watching this, I'm now considering going with this vs he much less expensive Donner DEP20 that so many youtubeers have been pitching. If you don't mind, can you share your thoughts on this Rolland model. I believe it's considered a step-up from beginner piano and upon testing the floor model at the store, I loved the feel and weighted feel of the keys. Besides 5 different piano modes, there were not many more modes except a church organ and a few others . Thanks again 🎹
It’s the FP-10 with upgraded polyphony. 128 instead of 96.
I didn't see the whole video and although I agree the Roland FP30X is a great piano, I am a little surprised the Kawai ES120 is not mentioned in this video.
Glad I saw this after buying my digital piano 😊
Went with the Casio CDP-S360, which also has an optional stand with pedals, sold separately of course. Not that I have space anyways... Maybe one day.
I love it, the keys feel amazing, more heavy than my teacher's piano - though she said that's good for learning & developing finger strength. Let's see how it goes 😃
I got an Alesis Recital for $46 with 88 keys and touch sensitivity it’s all I need. I’ll probably never play a real piano, semi weighted is fine. Just want some synth and organ sounds to go with my guitar playing. 🎉
I bought a no name second hand keyboard. I am good for now (started playing 3 weeks ago) for trying out I think that’s a fine choice. If I keep going I will upgrade - but for now it’s enough.
$900 beginner piano. OK, then I must be infant level.
😂😂😂
Try the Roland FP-10 for $399, baby steps.🎹
My first real keyboard was an M-Audio MIDI controller with 61 keys. It didnt have any sounds on it I had to connect it to my computer but it was a great first step (and very inexpensive too!)
I own a Dexibell S7. Only had it for 8 months and love it. The keybed is very close to real. If I was to replace it the new Kurzweil Sp 7 Piano, from the demos I have seen it amazing and has the same keybed as the S7. If anyone wants to do a swop...
Thank you for the kind replay I bought a Roland