Mormon Murder In American Fork Utah [The Mormon Newscast 026]
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2024
- On this week's Mormon Newscast we discuss the Mormon Murder Suicide in American Fork Utah involving a Mormon family. We also delve further into the Kirtland Ohio Historical Purchase, and finish by taking a look into recent discussion around unpublished Revelations by the Prophet Joseph Smith.
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Rebecca I love your visuals and AI imagery! You are so very clever!! I always enjoy your news stories - thank you!!!
Thank you so much! I have a great time collaborating with those two! Haha! Thanks for watching!
When someone tells me that they hold invisible keys that they got from an invisible realm that gives them power to do things that are invisible...I know that they must be the real deal.
Doesn’t get any more real than the LDS church!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
..”instead of (seeing the red flags) and avoiding the topic, realize that finding out the truth of things is more important then defending one side of the argument “. - RFM
I hope I got that right. I took note of that comment. Love it. So true. Thanks to the 3 of you for all your episodes 💕
Yes, Rebecca, I agree. Thank you, RFM. It's such a heartbreaking two stories. Thank you for talking about this
Thank you for sharing these stories. So much loss. American Fork is where I lived, it is where David Hamblin's healing circles were often held. It is where the Lafferty Brothers killed their sister in law and baby niece. It is where a current victim of Hamblin's has been harassed (a death threat on her car, strange packages and letters.) American Fork area has a lot of wealthy residents. Important to note that dysfunction in the church is everywhere. So much sadness. Lots of trauma to go around in Utah. Thank you for talking about the hard stuff, it is important.
A very sad episode. My thoughts are with the families affected.
Rob Fotheringham has a podcast explaining the Elijah issue and was excommunicated for it.
I appreciate you bringing to light how one murderer is being treated (he has money and is Mormon) and the other is definitely not getting that treatment.
Rebecca, I lived in a neighboring ward of the Lafferty duplex and once in a while I drive by that duplex too. 23:26
Kerilynn was a family member of my best friend. He mentioned that the kids kept admonishing all family and friends “not to blame” their dad. Horrifying if you ask me. Apparently the wife reportedly suffered years of at least emotional and verbal abuse and just couldnt take it any more. That day she told him that she was divorcing him… he obviously was mega controlling and would rather murder her than let her be free 😡
Without knowing anything about them, that's the first scenario I imagined in my mind when I was listening to the report. It's also odd that the report gives background on her, but provides almost no background on the husband.
Actually he clarified that she said she was divorcing him a few days prior and he clearly planned this for a few days. He closed the blinds and locked all the doors so no one could come in and render aid. Horrible! Who is speaking up for her? 😢
But if pride and honour of the husband was involved, then why have a GoFundMe for funeral expenses? Seems to me that this wouldn't be needed for a US middle class family with solid incomes.
Sounds like the Murder suslcidr in Enoch Utah near Cedar City UT last year(2023l)
Husband murdered Wife Mother in law and 5 kids AND Himself.
His wife filed for a divorce and he murdered everyone in the house.
ALL LDS .
The "un-canonized" revelations of Joseph Smith. I can't help but wonder why I haven't seen any canonized revelation that explains how something becomes canonized. And if there is a canonized revelation that explains how something becomes canonized, but that revelation was not canonized as and when it was received, can we really trust any canonization that was subsequently based thereon?
These stories depict perfectly how the LDS Church deals with any questions... Let's pretend we don't we don't have any! It's a sick system of ignoring the obvious! Shut up! No further questions! 🤨
I pray that whatever community you all live in is far more kind to you when you're grieving the loss of a loved one in the not so distant future, than these remarks have been.
This really does nothing to show how true Christians should act if you're pretending to walk a higher road here.
Sad....
This is really no different than how the Westboro Baptist church 'mourns' at funerals.
I feel bad. How did my g grandparents ever fall into this silliness...even die for it!?
I would like to give attention to a book I've had for years now. Mormon Enigma Emma Hale Smith . By Linda King Newell and Valeen Tippetts Avery. This book is so essential to understanding the life of Emma . I would also like to mention, this book was not received well by the LDS church! I am not sure if it's still in print. Definitely will not find it in Desert Book . I am rereading now.
Thanks for this info. What does the book say about Emma.
@@icecreamladydriver1606it covers her story from her parents genealogy to her death. Right now, I'm just in the part of the Smith family arriving in NY. Before Emma and Joseph meet.
@@rosemariebennett7213 Thanks.
Thanks!
What's in the water in Utah and Idaho?
Maybe its a lack of Coffee ☕️ their diets?
Thank you all for a wonderful episode .
Rebecca, where can we find the funny planet names from Joseph Smith
What ? I never heard of these other planets he named !
Some very bad things happened in the Kirkland Temple as well.
Curious...tell us more
@@beverlya.8751 I refer you to the case of Jeff Lundgren.
The church has to keep that version because we all were taught it and no other truth or writings will be tolerated. Some say there was hallucinatics used . Interesting theory
😊 listen to Mormons on Mushrooms. A host, Byron Blankenship wrote his doctoral thesis on Joseph Smith ‘s possible use of entheogenics. I definitely think this is possible. 🎉
I want to hear if there is more to this family story with the husband killing the wife. The children remain under the illusion of a forever family. They have to hold on to that to keep sane. There might not be any more investigation in it but should be ! He killed her !
I know the family. And I know one of the children well and they no longer hold fast to the mormon lie.
Such an awful situation!
@@oliveoilchicmy most sincere condolences. Sending love to the children
Thank you, Rebecca! I have had a similar experience. I am sealed to a man who tried to k**** me. He then took his life. ( will get worked out on the otherside?). It's very painful 💔 😢 😫
Perhaps a note was left for the family to explain the reason for their father/mother deaths. My sincere condolences are sent to the family. It's a heartbreaking story.
‘The rise of the Dilbert’ 😂
20:56 Rebecca has great points!
How old are the kids?
For me, as a Mormon woman, dating was so unpleasant and unappealing. Both men and women are under way too much pressure and their overwhelm leads to poor relationship experiences.
The kids would have been raised to pretend that all was well.
I served my mission with Olin Johnson. This is beyond upsetting and horrible. 😢
Many sisters will not be able to marry a priesthood holder. This is a sure fired disaster for many of them
Plural marriage could come back in style with these numbers
I was taught those events did take place ,never heard of it not being true ! Geeze
Diboo yibou spibeak Ibibe?
The daughter on Facebook encouraged people to come to a celebration of her parent’s life. Their mother was murdered. May God have mercy on his soul, but honestly let us focus on the actual victim here.
I guess FRM has some kind of inside knowledge. I guess he can be certain that one of them wasn't recently diagnosed with a horrible life ending condition and they decided to do this together right? Don't get me wrong. I do not think that likely. But it's possible.
Why yes. This is perfectly normal. Tragic indeed.
Exactly RFM, if your marriage is that bad and you don’t think there is any resolution to be had, at least separate, preferably divorce. There’s no reason for such drastic actions.
But I think Rebecca has a very valid point. Divorce may be “allowed” but it is frowned upon. Also the assumption won’t just be that the couple realized they wanted very different things in life and had very different personalities. No, people will assume someone was unfaithful and committed terrible sins.
There’s also I think additional pressure that causes and greatly exacerbates marital strife, perhaps not in most Mormon communities, but certainly in the Mordor to act like everything is perfect all the time. You have a temple marriage and kids, and you go to church every Sunday. How could life be anything other than sunshine and roses? Lots of toxic positivity and lots of prosperity gospel. So I think sometimes there is this attitude that couples can’t admit to themselves let alone anyone else that maybe things aren’t going so hot and they need to get into some couples and/or individual therapy. Maybe they need to take a break and have some separation, maybe just even bedroom wise for a bit, to decide what is actually driving the conflict and if/how it can be fixed. It isn’t seen as a normal healthy approach to life, it’s seen as a moral and spiritual failure.
You guys are so corny. It’s cringy listening to you talk. Their kids are the ones that decided to have a combined funeral. You know the kids that knew their parents the best. You all stand on the sidelines and make commentary about the church but only those that are on the sidelines with you care what you have to say. For example the blond lady’s kids are super embarrassed of their mom. They would never be in her videos. They think she’s a nut job. I heard that when she got divorced, the kids lived with their dad. That explains everything!
So you are saying the kids knew their father would kill their mother because they know them best so it’s okay? Who is speaking up for the woman who was killed? And the blond ladies kids are not embarrassed by her and she isn’t divorced and they are all adults so they didn’t go live with their father so you are wrong on every count but we appreciate your comment!
@@mormonishpodcast1036 The kids are speaking and standing up for their mother. You’re acting as if you’re the victim which makes sense for an exmo! The kids decided they wanted to have a combined funeral. The blond’s kids are embarrassed of their mother.
U dont have angel wings.. that is not right.. see Jesus for judgement day..