Ben Watkinson hi points are ugly and uncomfortable, but they’re reasonably reliable, especially for the price. With the terminator shot gun and .22 zip gun you’d be lucky to get them to fire even once.
One of my favorite parts is the vented grip/barrel shroud, because god knows that baby’s going to get hot when you’re putting all those 2 rounds per minute down range
This is accurately named the ‘Terminator’ given how many Terminator movies there have been where the cybernetic robot from the future, programmed to kill a particular person, fails utterly at killing its target.
There were some termies in the comics that did, but aside from T3's John Connor by the T-850 in the future, no hostile film T has ever accomplished its objective With the very possible exception of Dark Fate, but Imma not spoil a movie people like/hate so let's put it there
@Sm3xyM3xican has it right - when Ian pauses for a second before looking annoyed, it misfired. When Ian flinches before muttering, "Gah!" or, "Jeez!" and rubs his shoulder, it fired.
I thought the entire video was misfires. Only when he said he wasn’t impressed, did I start questioning it. Like “wait. It didn’t fire and you’re just not impressed??”
@@AppalachianCryptidDoge Nope. Hitler was a Roman Catholic. Stalin was atheist, but he didn't do what he did because he was atheist (and the Nazis didn't do what they did because of Jesus). ISIS, the Byzantines, the KKK, Saudi Arabia, etc. etc. etc., on the other hand...
@Mike Perkins That statement is ridiculous because you are assuming all religions are the same. That is like someone saying America is a bad place to live because North Korea is. Some religious sects did more bad than good, but many religions did far more good than bad.
Naked Snakey well yeah. A good slingshot user can get the same energy as, I think it was either a .45 or .50 bullet (not from a rifle). But blunt so you don't get a hole, you just have everything in the immediate area get yeeted
Remember those crappy "survival" knives from the 1980s? The ones with a compass in the pommel and all the durability of a defective spork? This is the gun version of that.
oh so THAT'S why my brother's "cool knife" i found in the garage broke 30 seconds after i found it. must've already been busted but was held together by gunk, crust, and sheer midwestern willpower
I had the same knife here in germany too in the 80s. I was about 8yrs old when I got it, but it was perfectly safe for me and my enviroment, because it was unuseable as a weapon and as a tool. Just nice to watch and feel like John Rambo ^^
I wonder if you could make gunpowder that would make a marshmallow smell when ignited? I'm suddenly filled with the desire to start producing my own brand of fragrant ammunition. Like 9mm rounds that smell like strawberries when you fire them.
KageMinowara I can see that being a worthwhile investment 👍... If incase somebody does get shot with one... will they go down smelling the scented fragmentations ??🤔
@@MrCmon113 Microphones are really poor at picking up gunshots properly. It's peaking whenever the gun fires so the mic (depending on microphone) will dampen it significantly. It might also just be edited down after recording.
ThatGuy67 I feel like norinco is considered decent because you can’t buy them in the US. There’s a reason they’re cheap in Canada. They work, but fit and finish isn’t paramount.
@@ringingsteel8729 I have a Norinco Made AK and they seem to be a pretty reliably built gun, The steel is thicker than on a WASR and I haven't had a single problem with it at all.
I'd still treat is as an active, legitimate threat in that scenario. Because if I'm not, it might work then, or he'd clube with it while my guard was down.
This gun is hilarious. It's almost like it's designed to have as much recoil as possible. The stock has no give whatsoever, it's a shotgun, so it kicks fairly heavy to begin with, and on top of all that the whole mass of the mechanism, which is most of the gun, is already moving backwards, so you have to absorb that momentum too. Wow.
on top of that when it fails to fire it puts a tiny dimple in the shell so you have to put your fingers right next to the hot shotgun shell to move the barrel chamber forward & unload the bloody thing
@@adamwilson7811 This reminds me of the Boy Scout camp where I first learned to shoot. Because Boy Scout safety rules they load each round for you. The guy loading the rounds kept a spent shell with the front cut off so it is the same size as a loaded round in his pocket, so if you had a bad habit of flinching and yanking the shot he would load the dummy and you would jerk backwards despite the gun not going off. It looks a lot like this, only here the shooter is not the problem, it's the gun.
@@HALLish-jl5mo The Newton's third law pairing prior to the round actually firing is between the shooter's front hand and the front half of the gun, not the front and back parts of the gun. That chain of force actually makes the shooter move forward slightly, which would marginally increase the felt recoil if anything.
Sometimes a weapon was a good concept that got overshadowed by other designs. Sometimes it's a concept ahead of its time. This is not one of those guns. Sometimes a gun deserves to be forgotten.
Who the hell thought this was a good idea?! A single shot (???) shotgun made in the 80s constructed to look like more of an older SMG with a flimsy folding stock and an unnecessarily uncomfortable loading system. Ian has shown a lot of guns that were not that great but that one is just horrible.
I can only see one potential use case for it. It's so dirt simple, it should be possible to mass produce and sell new for 30 bucks. If it was also somewhat reliable, I could see some people buying it and a couple boxes of ammo just to throw in the trunk or pack in a go bag for survival situations. Of course, this thing cost more and isn't reliable so yeah it's useless. I'm just talking about the concept.
Ian speculated that this was an attempt by Cobray to show the government was targeting their products unfairly. So they made a mean looking but ineffective piece of junk. Thus if even a single shot slam fire got targeted it would prove they were right.
The only thing more illogical is a tacticool looking muzzle loader google prairie river arms PRA 50, a bullpup muzzle loader actually sold in the 90's, but at least it worked
I can't even imagine. It's absolutely baffling. Even a teenager knows that a shotgun with one barrel and no magazine is stupid. I can only think it was deliberately intended as a Saturday night special in shotgun form: as in you'll shoot somebody once and then drop it and run.
Been there. My unconscious mind would happily render an AKM in perfect detail, but it's a crapshoot whether it would fire or affect the target if it did fire. Eventually, I somehow managed to train my unconscious mind how guns work, and now they generally function as expected. This would probably seem weird to someone who isn't hardcore into guns, but I don't have nightmares anymore now that I can just shoot the monsters.
You too!? I shot an Iver Johnson safety pistol once as a "so this is how this works" and ever since then I'll randomly have dreams that I'm trying to use my carry gun in a defensive situation and the trigger just stacks and stacks and stacks and wont break.
After the fifth time the gun fails to fire, the thief would feel bad and give you your television back and leave. By the time it does fire, you are so jaded you aren't on aim that time, and do more damage to your own shoulder.
Cobray: “let’s make a gun so simple it will be indestructible and unmatched in reliability” *Also Cobray: but let’s make sure it doesn’t do either those things*
Bit difference is one of them works, and where one of the first... The Terminator is made after a crap load of experience and knowledge of what works and what doesn't but someone on crack made it anyway
I mean this may as well be a pipe gun, only an entire company poured lots of money into its creation instead of some chucklehead with knowledge of basic ballistics and a love for the Fallout series going to Home Depot with a n o t e b o o k
You can literally make a more reliable multi-shot version of this for $33 and a trip to Lowe's and harbor freight. (Always get your hose clamps and bungee cords at the hazard fraught, more skookum for less moolah)
If you're using a terminator for home defense, you're not actually supposed to shoot it. You're meant to use it as a beating stick to chase off the invaders and then while they're fleeing, you try to shoot them to see if you get lucky or not. Usually not.
@@joaogomes9405 i think you're onto something, you load the shell, press the trigger then ram the barrel into the attacker like a bayonet, hopefully making the shell go off. A 10th century fire lance would still be more reliable tho.
New game: Shotgun Roulette Rules: each player passes around the shotgun in the video, holds the butt end of the gun in front of their face, and pulls the trigger. If the round doesn’t go off, then it is passed to the next player. The last player with a broken nose wins.
TBAG [Epic Gaming] once I saw the video title, I was thinking about the streetsweeper. Also, I've seen some of your videos TBAG, they're pretty useful to get better in bf1.
I'm waiting for the April Fools episode where he talks about the Nerf Maverick. I mean to be fair, the Maverick has more sound and intelligent engineering than this thing.
I can't think of a Nerf gun with worse design than the terminator. Even the least well designed have good reason to have form precede function, they're toys. Besides, I'm not counting on them in an actual gun fight.
For those struggling with the automatic gain control muting the sound, you can hear the echoing in the background after the shot along with seeing increased recoil vs just the slam. He successfully fires at 3:204:304:434:50
Dunno, it has practical value in shit hits the fan situation if no other weapons are available and you have few boxes of 12 gauge around. Except make subframe jump forwards, so it counters some of the recoil and add much better stock.
Does that happen a lot where you're from? Stuck somewhere with nothing but a box of shotgun ammo, no shotgun but this piece of crap and your life is on the line? Seems very specific.
Man' the jury rigged pipe rifles in Fallout 4 are feats of engineering masterwork next to this piece of crap. Every gun in Metro 2033 is a goddamn work of pragmatic art. This is...*AWFUL*
Well those are fictional guns, unless someone remade them in real life and they work, then they could do what ever the developer wants them to do, they could fire god damn goats if the devs wanted
@@spartanwar1185 The weapons in 2033 were co-designed by a gunsmith. If you replicate their mechanisms, most of them work perfectly, as people that put together a Duplet or Tikhar have demonstrated.
@@DinnerForkTongue Unfortunately, the Bastard aint one of them since it's stupidly complex for its size. I'd love to see it made irl but concessions will need to be made. No spring in the clipazine, it's double stacked, the mag holder moves up and down to make up for a lack of feed lips, there seems to be no gas system so it's a blowback of some sort, the clipazine moves through the gun and etc. Either it loses the double stack so it can be like a mercie benet or it adds feed lips + spring/follower + fixed mag so it can be more like a sten/owens gun.
Meh FO4 pipe weapons are bad in design...they have a lot of inconsitencies and they could not even fire irl...metro on the other hand...that's probably possible they were based on real Gop-Stop handyworks...
Blunderbuss will still fire at least you will know why it misfired, easily fixed with just hand positioning, add to the fact that it was the first ever handheld shotgun leads to the factor of the Blunderbuss outperforming the COPRAY
A blunderbuss will fire reliably and accurately granted that it's not from the 18th century. Advancements with barrels really perked up the range of firearms at that time.
Even on paper the concept of this gun produces a massive 'why?'. A double barrel sawn-off outperforms this thing. It's much more reliable, easier to reload, holds more ammunition, and doesn't hurt particularly. How this came into existence might remain a mystery.
Only at the end of the video did I realize it had actually been firing all along; without the firing noise, I thought all that was happening were malfunctions....
Tequila Cured Salmon Carpaccio With Vodka Foam I like how you so eloquently called the gun a piece of junk! Lol. And yes, Royal Nonesuch would make something much better.
Define failure: Saying the recoil from a shotgun is physically painful when you've fired anti-tank rifles and didn't complain about it. A lead pipe would be a more viable choice of weapon than this waste of metal.
@@Jung-Thug Seriously, you could make a better gun out of some pipes and scrap metal. This is such a bad design, who thought it will be a good idea to try to sell it?
@@dawid12301d There were a couple of companies in that era that tried to build their brand off of the free advertising they'd get by producing "controversial" guns at a time when there was a lot of cultural anxiety around gun violence. The fact that we know about this thing despite the fact that they only sold like 1000 of them is proof both that the free advertising angle worked and that it wasn't a substitute for making a quality product.
I have 100% spent more time watching and enjoying Ian with garbage at the range than actually exhibiting exceptional guns. The way he stays professional in the way he talks about it even when you know that juuust under the surface he wants to smash it on a rock is an art form that cannot be taught.
It looks cool, but for something that looks simple in design, I am amazed how the designers managed to make it so unreliable. What's more, surely you'd stick a magazine on it and make it semi-auto.
@Roger Dodger No, pushing the barrel forward would just add to the overall momentum of the rest of the gun slamming back into your shoulder. It would be basically a blow-forward design in shotgun form. Ian has a good explanation of that shortcoming of blow-forward guns in his Schwarzlose 1908 pistol video: ruclips.net/video/kHQep9KW0ys/видео.html
3:35 the way you tilt your head with frustration combined with the jumpcut just makes me cackle every damn time lmao Also I love that a failure to fire with this gun gives as much of a jarring buck as a well-designed shotgun does when it fires
It must be the camera, I think, or the microphone cancellation or something, but the action of the barrel sliding, is louder than the shot, i could not tell until i heard the echo and saw the smoke and his reaction, of course. Damn that gun is bad.....
.... from all my sesion whit tabletop role play I can tell you that my track record whit melee stuff working in melee is not great maybe slightly better then Ians Fire record whit that thing but still.
Buy some pipes, rods, and an old AR pistol grip (an airsoft one will do too). Cobble them together so it looks like a Cobray Terminator. Now you have a Cobray Terminator that's just as useful as the real thing.
Some one probably saw an Sten Gun and an Owens gun from his grandfathers collection and thought that terrible apocalyptic design would make for a "good shotgun". And thus we have a single chamber no under barreled horrible ass monstrosity. This gun makes his ancestors double barrel look like a futuristic weapon because of how bad this one really is.
I don't think you're supposed to fire it unless absolutely necessary. I think you're just supposed to wave it around menacingly while you're robbing a bodega. :- |
Remember, switching to your Zip 22 is always faster than reloading
And then it jams
I honestly don't know what is worse, the Zip or the Cobray Terminator :/
That's not necessarily a true statement... Well, provided that you intend to continue firing.
‘Remember, switching to your Zip 22 is always faster than clearing the jam’
@@Basedmursenary lol it was clearly a joke, and a nod to the zip 22
They say the loudest sound in the world is hearing a click when you expected a bang...
Using this gun must be absolutely deafening.
why would you ever expect a bang out of this? if someone flagged me with one of these loaded i probably wouldn’t even be scared
@@bananamustard1151 if someone flagged me with this, I'd be more scared for them than me.
I think the sound of an unloaded gun going off is much louder lol
cobray terminator should be called "click gun"
No one likes the sound of door closing.
Be sure to carry a USFA Zip 22 as backup in case this thing doesn't work.
*in case it does work
And a hi point 🤣🤣🤣
Ben Watkinson hi points are ugly and uncomfortable, but they’re reasonably reliable, especially for the price. With the terminator shot gun and .22 zip gun you’d be lucky to get them to fire even once.
Tom O - Hahaha! “Just wait a second sorry I brought a backup....’click’ FUCK SAKE MAN!”
or a liberator pistol
One of my favorite parts is the vented grip/barrel shroud, because god knows that baby’s going to get hot when you’re putting all those 2 rounds per minute down range
I suppose the grip being stationary make sense where the barrel moves, must not the way most smartly designed actions have the barrel move.
Are you including or excluding the light strikes?
"What is your last wish before standing in front of the firing squad?" "Could you please outfit them with Terminator shotguns?"
And under-barrel zip 22 :D
A firing squad armed with Cobray Terminators? I'll roll the dice on those odds any old day of the week.
Embarrass the firing squad
Has to be one of the most clever comments I've seen
Wouldn’t be ironic if they all worked perfectly?
This is accurately named the ‘Terminator’ given how many Terminator movies there have been where the cybernetic robot from the future, programmed to kill a particular person, fails utterly at killing its target.
SSky06 isn’t cybernetic robot a bit of a redundancy?
There were some termies in the comics that did, but aside from T3's John Connor by the T-850 in the future, no hostile film T has ever accomplished its objective
With the very possible exception of Dark Fate, but Imma not spoil a movie people like/hate so let's put it there
Well they couldn't even kill Sara Connor before she became a real badass or John Connor when he was still a juvenille delinquent,hehe.
...Or because of the amount of _Terminator_ films that fail to be good movies.
@@Crlarl Every single film since Terminator: Salvation or maybe even Terminator 3
I had a hard time telling when it fired and when it malfunctioned.
I didn't think it fired at all. Looked like 9 or 10 misfires (I lost count). Although there was some smoke?
It fired a few times, you can tell when there was smoke and recoil. The microphone peaked and didn't pickup the sound of the gunshot properly though.
When in doubt, call it misfire.
@@77gravity you know it fired when ian says something lol, also I think the last 4 shots in the video fired
@Sm3xyM3xican has it right - when Ian pauses for a second before looking annoyed, it misfired.
When Ian flinches before muttering, "Gah!" or, "Jeez!" and rubs his shoulder, it fired.
Wow. I thought it wasn't firing at all. The sound of the "slam" is louder than the shell going off.
Sounds more like a weird side effect of automatic gain control or something else artificially limiting the recorded level.
I thought the entire video was misfires. Only when he said he wasn’t impressed, did I start questioning it. Like “wait. It didn’t fire and you’re just not impressed??”
Hold on, wait, it DID fire? When?
@@magiklok 3:21 and 4:30
@@JohnnyQuickdeath Yeah, I'm thinking that gun did not go off. At any time.
Gun Jesus to his followers: "One of you will betray me."
The guy who owns this: "Hey Ian, wanna shoot a thing?"
THIS
Owwww.... I laughed so hard at this it probably hurt more than Ian's shoulder did..
@@AppalachianCryptidDoge Nope. Hitler was a Roman Catholic. Stalin was atheist, but he didn't do what he did because he was atheist (and the Nazis didn't do what they did because of Jesus). ISIS, the Byzantines, the KKK, Saudi Arabia, etc. etc. etc., on the other hand...
And it kicks like an SOB even when the shell doesn't go off.
@Mike Perkins That statement is ridiculous because you are assuming all religions are the same. That is like someone saying America is a bad place to live because North Korea is. Some religious sects did more bad than good, but many religions did far more good than bad.
“Let’s shoot this thing”
Gun: “not today, I don’t feel like it”
@Say The N Word, NPC I got you man Ill come back tomorrow.
@@Razor-gx2dq you liar
@Mark Patino Yas66 on Danbooru
@Mark Patino no need to thank me citizen, just doing my job
What a concept, recoil without a discharge. Makes the Zip 22 look like a good investment.
A slingshot is better than theese 2
Naked Snakey well yeah. A good slingshot user can get the same energy as, I think it was either a .45 or .50 bullet (not from a rifle). But blunt so you don't get a hole, you just have everything in the immediate area get yeeted
I'm dead
The zip at least fires the first time you shoot it
the Lathi L-39 has recoil when discharging the bolt
Remember those crappy "survival" knives from the 1980s? The ones with a compass in the pommel and all the durability of a defective spork? This is the gun version of that.
oh so THAT'S why my brother's "cool knife" i found in the garage broke 30 seconds after i found it. must've already been busted but was held together by gunk, crust, and sheer midwestern willpower
That sums things up nicely.
My dad’s old side-by-side feels like it would be better then that thing, even if you pull both triggers together.
This is the only logical explanation.
I had the same knife here in germany too in the 80s. I was about 8yrs old when I got it, but it was perfectly safe for me and my enviroment, because it was unuseable as a weapon and as a tool. Just nice to watch and feel like John Rambo ^^
Cons: A literal waste of metal and parts
Pros: "It smells like Marshmallows"
I wonder if you could make gunpowder that would make a marshmallow smell when ignited?
I'm suddenly filled with the desire to start producing my own brand of fragrant ammunition. Like 9mm rounds that smell like strawberries when you fire them.
You could probably do it. It wouldn't sell enough, but you could do it.
KageMinowara I can see that being a worthwhile investment 👍... If incase somebody does get shot with one... will they go down smelling the scented fragmentations ??🤔
@@bthsr7113 i remember the 231 i had loaded in .45 ACP smelling like butter in the morning ipsc matches.
M on bored.
It doesn’t even look like he’s shooting. It just looks like the gun is malfunctioning, and he is taking a beating from the slam fire BS.
....
Honestly what I thought
The slam fire that there's absolutely no need for? Yeah, she's a real beaut.
That is literally what I thought as someone, who has never held a gun.
How come it's so silent?
@@MrCmon113 Microphones are really poor at picking up gunshots properly. It's peaking whenever the gun fires so the mic (depending on microphone) will dampen it significantly. It might also just be edited down after recording.
Cobray's line-up is the epitome of the "I expected nothing and I'm still let down" joke
"Cobray" is another word for "Pre-Recycled Metal".😂
@Merc Kitsuné Norinco is already good in terms of quality at least.
ThatGuy67 I feel like norinco is considered decent because you can’t buy them in the US. There’s a reason they’re cheap in Canada. They work, but fit and finish isn’t paramount.
@@ringingsteel8729 I have a Norinco Made AK and they seem to be a pretty reliably built gun, The steel is thicker than on a WASR and I haven't had a single problem with it at all.
@@secondpath5148 the thickness of the steel matters, but I would argue that the quality of the steel and the quality of the heat treat matter too
"I can't put this off any longer."
But the gun itself can.
Terrible joke, Michael
@@strv103b2 When the comments were first written, one stood, with boiling blood, he scoured the Umbral plains, seeking to find who asked.
@@strv103b2 it’s really quite a good joke
@@Breakaway-ic5gj who asked
@@floo1465 who asked
This gun looks like a Chinese knockoff off a Vietnamese knockoff.
Chinese norinco Ak is legit, more like Afghan village knock off a ISIS home made shotgun.
@@luvpewthings8528 I think Afghan/Pashtun villagers can actually improve an ISIS homemade shotgun if Khyber Pass is an indication.
Chinese makes everything
This comment is absolute money.
Actually more like an Afghani knockoff, of a Chinese knockoff, of a Viet Cong knockoff, of a North Korean design
Some Weapons are Forgotten for a reason....
No shit...
Max Harter chill your balls dude
B. Schmidt no because it looks “scary”
PavarottiAardvark better to nevet forget a weapon so that the mistake will never be repeated.😂
too good to talk shit about
This feels like a joke weapon you'd find in a game. A gun that jams 100% of the time
Perfect for Halo's cursed mod LMAO!
Chuper chotgun
Doom Extreme Weapons mod candidate.
like the chauchat from fallout tactics
If ever made an FPS video game I'd definitely throw this in as a joke weapon
I want a game where one of your possible loadouts is the cobray terminator with a ZiP 22 as your secondary
phantom forces?
The Zip 22 Needs to be rail mounted on the Cobray for historical accuracy
And you can put a sniper scope on both of them
@@taxevasion4870 sniper on the zip, WW1 lens sights on the cobray
Cruelty squad has zip 22
When you bring a knife to a gunfight but the gun is the cobray terminator
You can still use it as a club.
@@Morbacounet it would malfunction even if used as a club. Don't ask me how i have no idea I just know that is what would happen.
Someone is gonna leave here in a closet casket
I'd still treat is as an active, legitimate threat in that scenario. Because if I'm not, it might work then, or he'd clube with it while my guard was down.
The chicago way in reverse..
You could play Russian Roulette with this thing
and the one time it would work
It would fall over and then you'd trip over it to your death.
Bravo sir! LMFAO. That literally make me burst out in laughter.
What a piece of crap gun.
Me: wanna play russian roulette?
Him: sure, But with what tho?
Me: *The TeriMinaTor!*
Him: *stairs at me*
_Not good for Russian Roulette:_ *The first shot would make the shotgun fail and explode, sending out metal shrapnel, killing everyone in the room!*
Clearly a bad batch of ammo. Couldn't possibly be that fine piece of engineering.
no silly. he was holding the gun wrong.
This gun is hilarious. It's almost like it's designed to have as much recoil as possible. The stock has no give whatsoever, it's a shotgun, so it kicks fairly heavy to begin with, and on top of all that the whole mass of the mechanism, which is most of the gun, is already moving backwards, so you have to absorb that momentum too. Wow.
on top of that when it fails to fire it puts a tiny dimple in the shell so you have to put your fingers right next to the hot shotgun shell to move the barrel chamber forward & unload the bloody thing
The fact that misfires have recoil really says something
@@adamwilson7811 This reminds me of the Boy Scout camp where I first learned to shoot. Because Boy Scout safety rules they load each round for you. The guy loading the rounds kept a spent shell with the front cut off so it is the same size as a loaded round in his pocket, so if you had a bad habit of flinching and yanking the shot he would load the dummy and you would jerk backwards despite the gun not going off. It looks a lot like this, only here the shooter is not the problem, it's the gun.
The mechanism moving backwards should pull the rest of the gun forwards though?
@@HALLish-jl5mo The Newton's third law pairing prior to the round actually firing is between the shooter's front hand and the front half of the gun, not the front and back parts of the gun. That chain of force actually makes the shooter move forward slightly, which would marginally increase the felt recoil if anything.
Sometimes a weapon was a good concept that got overshadowed by other designs. Sometimes it's a concept ahead of its time. This is not one of those guns. Sometimes a gun deserves to be forgotten.
hence the channel name
Excellent summary!
The guns a pipe it was stolen from the axel of a trash can
But if we forget it, how will we learn never to do it again?
This one deserves a visit to an electric-arc furnace. Industrial version of the electric chair.
you can actually see Ian physically stop himself from yeeting this piece of junk into the desert XD
This abomination needs to be thrown into a smelter
@@christianweibrecht6555 more like the fires of mount doom
i bet thats what he did when the cam stopped rolling lol
Wth is "yeeting" mean?
@@k.c.lejeune6613 Heartily throwing.
Maybe they wanted it to be used in the next Star Wars. It looks like a Blaster.
That would explain why the stormtroopers won't hit anything.
E 11
*puts an acog scope or any scope on top
E11 done
Yeah
More like a STEN.
I didn’t even realize it was firing until the end because I was waiting for the sound
Sergeant, report situation in field.
"I've shot 1 foe, 3 colleagues and my right foot. I urgently need another 200 rounds to finish the last bad guy."
Have you tried swinging it
@@mikepette4422 Damn, I'm stupid.
That would probably be the deadliest way to use it :)
I didn't even realize the gun fired at first because the sliding action is so loud.
I thought they all failed until I heard an echo, finally.
Yeah, that confused me until I saw this comment and rewatched. I didn't think any rounds had fired until I checked again.
Ditto
Orangefan me too
I only realized from the sound of the empty shells when he extracted them.
Who the hell thought this was a good idea?! A single shot (???) shotgun made in the 80s constructed to look like more of an older SMG with a flimsy folding stock and an unnecessarily uncomfortable loading system. Ian has shown a lot of guns that were not that great but that one is just horrible.
I think the only thing it would be good for is a movie prop.
I can only see one potential use case for it. It's so dirt simple, it should be possible to mass produce and sell new for 30 bucks. If it was also somewhat reliable, I could see some people buying it and a couple boxes of ammo just to throw in the trunk or pack in a go bag for survival situations.
Of course, this thing cost more and isn't reliable so yeah it's useless. I'm just talking about the concept.
Plus from what I understand it's pretty heavy for a single shot shotgun.
Ian speculated that this was an attempt by Cobray to show the government was targeting their products unfairly. So they made a mean looking but ineffective piece of junk. Thus if even a single shot slam fire got targeted it would prove they were right.
John O ́neil I see this gun and its remembers me from Sten SMG :P
"...the worst shotgun I have ever heard of."
"...but you have heard of me."
Terrible joke
@@strv103b2 ...but you did recognize it was a joke.
@@strv103b2 you again? it was a pretty good joke, man
"This Shot Is Not Meant For You."
@@floo1465I guess he hates PotC 😂
This versus a 18th Century musket. Place your bets.
Military Aviation History musket guaranteed
Provided the musket is loaded correct it'll go bang every time. Plus this takes almost as long to load lmao
Musket
Muskets usually had a pretty good bayonet attachment so musket.
I suppose you could throw this thing at them and do some damage.
This versus a $99 single shot break open, this loses on all counts.
Question. Can something be truly considered a "firearm" if it doesn't fire?
Its just an arm at that point
To do that, we have to first go back to the beginning, starting with defining what a firearm is, and what it isn’t.
Don't think so haha
Windarm
The ATF thinks so. To them, just the receiver of a gun is a "firearm."
What was the logic behind a tacticool looking single shot shotgun? "14-year-old's Lamborghini poster on the wall" is SO accurate.
The only thing more illogical is a tacticool looking muzzle loader google prairie river arms PRA 50, a bullpup muzzle loader actually sold in the 90's, but at least it worked
@@aryanson Just looked up the PRA 50. Nuttiest thing I've seen in a long time.
@@Sensorium19 The one I have shoots great, not too thrilled with with the idea of of the breech area of the barrel next to my neck though.
I can't even imagine. It's absolutely baffling. Even a teenager knows that a shotgun with one barrel and no magazine is stupid. I can only think it was deliberately intended as a Saturday night special in shotgun form: as in you'll shoot somebody once and then drop it and run.
Tactial fucking what? This looks tactical to you? Since when tactical means "looks like pipe with pistol grip"?
You know it’s a bad gun when later on Ian can shoot guns that are literally a pipe, a screw, and a broom handle, and enjoys them more than this gun
The Owen gun earned its respect. ;w;
The one time where bringing a knife to a gunfight will actually ensure victory
This is like one of those dreams where you find a gun during a firefight, but it never works, or is a really slow burn of gunpowder.
Been there. My unconscious mind would happily render an AKM in perfect detail, but it's a crapshoot whether it would fire or affect the target if it did fire. Eventually, I somehow managed to train my unconscious mind how guns work, and now they generally function as expected.
This would probably seem weird to someone who isn't hardcore into guns, but I don't have nightmares anymore now that I can just shoot the monsters.
You too!? I shot an Iver Johnson safety pistol once as a "so this is how this works" and ever since then I'll randomly have dreams that I'm trying to use my carry gun in a defensive situation and the trigger just stacks and stacks and stacks and wont break.
Okay god the slow fire. No kidding. Pressing the trigger and it not going off for a few seconds. Wonky shit
I can never rack my slide
I always end up fighting something that can't be hurt by bullets, like a T-1000.
It would kill a home invader though ...he'd die laughing.
Well, it is pretty decently shaped to be used as a blunt weapon. So when he starts to laugh, you can charge in and hit him on his head...
Markus Mahlberg yeah that’s the better purpose of this “gun” (actually a club)
Gun is heavy...heavy is good...heavy is reliable...if it doesn't work, you can hit him with it.
After the fifth time the gun fails to fire, the thief would feel bad and give you your television back and leave.
By the time it does fire, you are so jaded you aren't on aim that time, and do more damage to your own shoulder.
the home invader would take himself to jail just to tell the cops and everyone else you tried to stop him with this piece of trash.
Cobray: “let’s make a gun so simple it will be indestructible and unmatched in reliability”
*Also Cobray: but let’s make sure it doesn’t do either those things*
This think makes the Chauchat look like a masterpiece.
Bit difference is one of them works, and where one of the first...
The Terminator is made after a crap load of experience and knowledge of what works and what doesn't but someone on crack made it anyway
At least the Chauchat worked after _a lot_ of bloody failures.
American or French version? One have a failure every 2 bullet, the other every magazine
NK_33 the chauchat itself wasn’t that bad, it’s mostly the magazines to blame
@@NukeSaturn_ yeh the spring is awful.
You can still buy these from any hardware store for about $20. Some assembly required.
A fucking pipe gun would fire more reliably than this.
Those are markably more reliable
I mean this may as well be a pipe gun, only an entire company poured lots of money into its creation instead of some chucklehead with knowledge of basic ballistics and a love for the Fallout series going to Home Depot with a n o t e b o o k
You can literally make a more reliable multi-shot version of this for $33 and a trip to Lowe's and harbor freight. (Always get your hose clamps and bungee cords at the hazard fraught, more skookum for less moolah)
$20? Yeah still not worth it.
Before watching video: How could this possibly be worse than the street sweeper?
After watching video: .... oh.
BOCW moment:
When you had enough to kill Adler with Streetsweeper.
That recoil looks brutal. I can only imagine if it actually fired.
This gun is like, some kind of elaborate anti gun prank. The finest ammunition ruiner you can buy.
The sooner that thing is a forgotten weapon the better.
No, we shall forever remember it as a bad example.
Do you want someone in the far future to accidentally recreate it?
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
The guy who lent it to you said nothing about wanting it back right?
Boom! That was a better shot than the gun.
you know, even if this thing actually fired reliably, I can't thing of a single area that this isn't outclassed by a simple single barrel break open.
A sawed off, single shot break open shotgun would be just as compact and problems have less recoil anyways.
unlike a break open it makes you think.
it makes you think: "Why not a single barrel break open instead"
Goes to fire on a home invader...
*Fails to fire*
"Damnit. Hang on a second, this always happens..."
If you're using a terminator for home defense, you're not actually supposed to shoot it. You're meant to use it as a beating stick to chase off the invaders and then while they're fleeing, you try to shoot them to see if you get lucky or not. Usually not.
@@joaogomes9405 i think you're onto something, you load the shell, press the trigger then ram the barrel into the attacker like a bayonet, hopefully making the shell go off. A 10th century fire lance would still be more reliable tho.
@@joaogomes9405 OMEGALUL
@@joaogomes9405 This one made me almost spit-take my drink from laughter.
@@joaogomes9405 would best as a spear just add a bayonet
More useful as a melee weapon than a firearm.
Collapsing stock
@@meeperdudeify Still solid enough to use as a club
@atfd 8273 what kind of enemy is stupid enough to use a gun you give to them?
@@meeperdudeify it's a saying you doughnut
@@huzzahuttus5963 it’s spelled donut?
I'll bet the guy who owned this didn't leave a return address hahaha!
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Well not am accurate one.
I want to see the blooper reel for this one. I can just Imagine Ian when he walked off camera. That can't have been a pleasant string of words.
New game: Shotgun Roulette
Rules: each player passes around the shotgun in the video, holds the butt end of the gun in front of their face, and pulls the trigger. If the round doesn’t go off, then it is passed to the next player. The last player with a broken nose wins.
Let's be real, no one is going to want to play this for a whole month.
@@_tyrannus 🤣🤣 I died
Even then the Streetswipper would work better for that in the roulette side
this thing makes the streetsweeper look amazing XD
TBAG [Epic Gaming] didn’t expect to see you here!!
Chad The African Bullfrog yeah dude I love this channel :)
TBAG [Epic Gaming]
Hell yeah! Great to know you're an Ian fan!
TBAG [Epic Gaming] once I saw the video title, I was thinking about the streetsweeper. Also, I've seen some of your videos TBAG, they're pretty useful to get better in bf1.
TBAG [Epic Gaming] guess I'll have to subscribe to you now
“Well this is less than spectacular”-Ian
"We'll be back with a much better gun"
Next episode:"Awesome Nerf Guns!"
I'm waiting for the April Fools episode where he talks about the Nerf Maverick.
I mean to be fair, the Maverick has more sound and intelligent engineering than this thing.
I can't think of a Nerf gun with worse design than the terminator. Even the least well designed have good reason to have form precede function, they're toys. Besides, I'm not counting on them in an actual gun fight.
If Ian made a separate channel examining Nerf guns I'd sub it in a heartbeat.
@@DrDestructo The Maverick REV-6 has a MUCH better design than that piece of shit,
it looks pretty damn cool though.
@@tgcid2018 there's honestly some good engineering in Nerf blasters. A good gun expert's opinion would be interesting.
My freakin' Nerf guns are more reliable than this thing is.
Probably more lethal, given the same amount of time.
Like all you gotta do is add thumbtacks and boom, better weapon
My Water guns are more reliable then this thing
sgt Hale107 just buy a double barrel
To be accurate, this gun is very reliable. It succeeds 100% at not working every time.
On the up side you could manufacture one in a third-world country for less than $4.
Isaac Raschke With guns that don't work..... meanwhile you could buy AK's for 12 dollars in some conflict areas
Not even South Africans want this gun. They make their own, better firearms.
You could make a cheaper and probably better one with spare pipes.
ryan you can make a far better slamfire gun for like $30 worth of plumbing supplies there are yt vids of them
We gunna be kangs again
With a terminator like this, I don't fear skynet anymore.
It can't be bargained with, can't be reasoned with and it absolutely will not fire, until you are dead.
For those struggling with the automatic gain control muting the sound, you can hear the echoing in the background after the shot along with seeing increased recoil vs just the slam. He successfully fires at
3:20 4:30 4:43 4:50
So basically it's like a last ditch weapon. Except worse and no need for it in the first place.
Dunno, it has practical value in shit hits the fan situation if no other weapons are available and you have few boxes of 12 gauge around. Except make subframe jump forwards, so it counters some of the recoil and add much better stock.
Does that happen a lot where you're from? Stuck somewhere with nothing but a box of shotgun ammo, no shotgun but this piece of crap and your life is on the line? Seems very specific.
I'm sure you could bludgeon someone with it in a pinch.
@@Hellsong89 why not just buy a shotgun that works in case of emergencies?
"Terminator" is a single shot open bolt. Wow
5:37 "We'll be back tomorrow with a much better gun."
**Uploads a video about a gun made by an apprentice in the Khyber Pass.**
Compared to this every gun is a better gun. Heck, even sling shot would fare better.
Harsh but fair....
I cant help but feel that Ian did that intentionally as a joke, and to really emphasize just how bad it is.
Cobray's entire design philosophy was "imagine the look on the perp's face when you pull THIS out!".
"Those perps will bust so many ribs laughing, you no longer NEED a firearm!"
"That's right! This thing's so god damned ugly that upon looking at it, your adversary will turn to stone!"
who in their right mind looked at a Sten gun and went "that looks like a good basis for a shotgun, eh?"
Like...just why.
I suppose you could make a Sten with a longer stroke to handle .410 cartridges if you want a Sten-based shotgun.
At least the Sten gun could be counted on to work most of the time.
There's Forgotten Weapons, and then there's Weapons We Dumped in the Oubliette. This gem is from the latter series.
@@kirkstinson7316 Not if they watched Labyrinth
@@kirkstinson7316 Wasn't it a level from Quake? I think that's where I first heard it. E2M6, "The Dismal Oubliette".
Theres only one place it will work, the gungeon where it will shoot a million bullets but they harm the user
@@kirkstinson7316 I think it was in Metroid Prime Hunters too.
Man' the jury rigged pipe rifles in Fallout 4 are feats of engineering masterwork next to this piece of crap. Every gun in Metro 2033 is a goddamn work of pragmatic art.
This is...*AWFUL*
Well those are fictional guns, unless someone remade them in real life and they work, then they could do what ever the developer wants them to do, they could fire god damn goats if the devs wanted
@@spartanwar1185
The weapons in 2033 were co-designed by a gunsmith. If you replicate their mechanisms, most of them work perfectly, as people that put together a Duplet or Tikhar have demonstrated.
@@DinnerForkTongue Unfortunately, the Bastard aint one of them since it's stupidly complex for its size. I'd love to see it made irl but concessions will need to be made. No spring in the clipazine, it's double stacked, the mag holder moves up and down to make up for a lack of feed lips, there seems to be no gas system so it's a blowback of some sort, the clipazine moves through the gun and etc.
Either it loses the double stack so it can be like a mercie benet or it adds feed lips + spring/follower + fixed mag so it can be more like a sten/owens gun.
Meh FO4 pipe weapons are bad in design...they have a lot of inconsitencies and they could not even fire irl...metro on the other hand...that's probably possible they were based on real Gop-Stop handyworks...
I think a blunderbuss is slightly worse...
EDIT: watched the video, a blunderbuss is better...
Blunderbuss will still fire at least you will know why it misfired, easily fixed with just hand positioning, add to the fact that it was the first ever handheld shotgun leads to the factor of the Blunderbuss outperforming the COPRAY
Even a flint lock is more reliable
A blunderbuss will fire reliably and accurately granted that it's not from the 18th century.
Advancements with barrels really perked up the range of firearms at that time.
Yo, don't diss the 'buss, it was a very good piece of engineering for its day. We just happen to have better today... and worse too.
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The only gun that still has recoil even when you haven’t shot.
I think in this case, I will bring a knife to a gun fight
It could be a pretty good substitute for a metal baseball bat, you never know
Dunk Master was about to say. I've seen some lead pipes do some damage.
Very witty !!!!
I think I will just throw the bird shot instead.
A knife can't fail to fire.
Even on paper the concept of this gun produces a massive 'why?'.
A double barrel sawn-off outperforms this thing. It's much more reliable, easier to reload, holds more ammunition, and doesn't hurt particularly.
How this came into existence might remain a mystery.
Only at the end of the video did I realize it had actually been firing all along; without the firing noise, I thought all that was happening were malfunctions....
Me too. I think most of the shots did not fire but a few actually worked. If this is the case then we found its one positive, it's damn quiet.
When he looks at his shoulder in pain you know that it just fired
Apparently, only 3:20 , 4:26 , 4:44 and 4:50 were actual shots, and had about 5 malfunctions lmao
Me
"I'm not used to guns that actually physically hurt"
Looks like something Royal Nonesuch would make for the sake of making one except it would probably work better if he made it
Tequila Cured Salmon Carpaccio With Vodka Foam
I like how you so eloquently called the gun a piece of junk! Lol. And yes, Royal Nonesuch would make something much better.
He’s got better since he tried making a .50 zip gun.
His do work better and he even has added better stocks.
I thought the same thing
The only good thing about that gun was it didn't explode or actually injure the shooter other than maybe bruise his shoulder.
Define failure:
Saying the recoil from a shotgun is physically painful when you've fired anti-tank rifles and didn't complain about it.
A lead pipe would be a more viable choice of weapon than this waste of metal.
Other than the fact that it’s not lead, is there really a difference?
@@forksinaoutlet3403 Well uh...a lead pipe is cheaper. Does that count?
@@supereldinho the pipe has a better chance of firing a round successfully
Also he didn't even mention the lack of any sort of heat shield or handguard
The terminator is better used as the lead pipe
That design literally adds recoil with the barrel slamming backward... and it doesn’t even work
Plus manual loading of the cartridge AND impressively unintuitive design
It's like a worse version of those improvised pipe shotguns that people make sometimes.
@@Jung-Thug Seriously, you could make a better gun out of some pipes and scrap metal. This is such a bad design, who thought it will be a good idea to try to sell it?
@@dawid12301d There were a couple of companies in that era that tried to build their brand off of the free advertising they'd get by producing "controversial" guns at a time when there was a lot of cultural anxiety around gun violence. The fact that we know about this thing despite the fact that they only sold like 1000 of them is proof both that the free advertising angle worked and that it wasn't a substitute for making a quality product.
I have 100% spent more time watching and enjoying Ian with garbage at the range than actually exhibiting exceptional guns. The way he stays professional in the way he talks about it even when you know that juuust under the surface he wants to smash it on a rock is an art form that cannot be taught.
Watched this entire video and didn't realize that the gun fired.
Me too .. Until i saw smoke from barrel ... i assume the camera's microphone has some kind of sound reducing properties.
Jerry K
It fired? I thought the smoke was from using it as a bong.
fried rice be more effective as one
Same.
It looks cool, but for something that looks simple in design, I am amazed how the designers managed to make it so unreliable. What's more, surely you'd stick a magazine on it and make it semi-auto.
AmateurHetman naw.. you would have to retool the whole thing. That would raise the cost and you would never make your money back..
@Roger Dodger No, pushing the barrel forward would just add to the overall momentum of the rest of the gun slamming back into your shoulder. It would be basically a blow-forward design in shotgun form. Ian has a good explanation of that shortcoming of blow-forward guns in his Schwarzlose 1908 pistol video: ruclips.net/video/kHQep9KW0ys/видео.html
Well one big spring in the right spot should make it semi
This whole time I thought it wasn't hitting the primer hard enough and wasn't firing, but it was just an audio thing.
I thought it wasn’t firing?
Yep, the lack of smoke when it fired also fooled me, should've cranked the volume up
3:35 the way you tilt your head with frustration combined with the jumpcut just makes me cackle every damn time lmao
Also I love that a failure to fire with this gun gives as much of a jarring buck as a well-designed shotgun does when it fires
It must be the camera, I think, or the microphone cancellation or something, but the action of the barrel sliding, is louder than the shot, i could not tell until i heard the echo and saw the smoke and his reaction, of course.
Damn that gun is bad.....
Yea, his camera cuts loud sounds REALLY aggressively
Yeah I think everyone thought it was totally misfiring from the comments. But it was only a couple of times. Still a pos gun.
ZIP .22: *Finally, a worthy competitor*
*Our battle will be legendary!*
*Both procede to jam repeatedly*
@@arrowtt3364 hi point :
*you dare oppose me mortal*
Remington R51: I have awaken from my slumber...
@@thatoneguy2793 Hi points are so many orders of magnitude better than either of these that there is no possible comparison.
@@jonathonparks9518 Gen 1 was garbage, but people are actually liking the gen 2, oddly enough
That viewer is going "No take backsies" right now
This made cry so hard lol
"what? My FFL didn't give you his data when he shipped it?"
"Pity."
"I guess I can't put this off any longer, so..."
The most glowing recommendation ever from a guy who loves reviewing and shooting guns.
So am I right in saying that it's actually better to use it as a bat rather than a gun?
Mihály Törley If nothing else, it will most likely have a higher success rate of working as a bat
.... from all my sesion whit tabletop role play I can tell you that my track record whit melee stuff working in melee is not great maybe slightly better then Ians Fire record whit that thing but still.
It is a anti-flinch training tool.
Hahaha
It’s basically a useless one shot 12 gauge American Sten gun.
@Alec Hinshaw If I remember right, the first Sten guns were crap, but that eventually got fixed.
The fact that he's seen and reviewed so many crudely made shotguns and this one is "professionally" made and still worse really says something
3:47 the anger in that moustache is tremendous
Watching this, and the only thing that comes to mind is Marvin the Martian with one of these.
"Where's the KABOOM?! There's supposed to be a KABOOM!"
It's silenced
Kerry Blanchard thank you so much for the cartoon reference. ....priceless 🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒
Kerry, awesome comment! Takes me way back, and I love it! Priceless creativity on this comment!
Kerry Blanchard ok, Kerry, that’s funny!
Buy some pipes, rods, and an old AR pistol grip (an airsoft one will do too).
Cobble them together so it looks like a Cobray Terminator.
Now you have a Cobray Terminator that's just as useful as the real thing.
Actually, probably more useful since there's a bigger chance it will actually fire
Pzgraf someone with a pointy stick would've killed him all ready.
Some one probably saw an Sten Gun and an Owens gun from his grandfathers collection and thought that terrible apocalyptic design would make for a "good shotgun". And thus we have a single chamber no under barreled horrible ass monstrosity. This gun makes his ancestors double barrel look like a futuristic weapon because of how bad this one really is.
The Lamborghini poster that represents this gun is clearly just a Pontiac Fiero wearing a fiberglass conversion kit.
Pros: Didn't explode.
Cons: Everything else.
Reminds me of a TIME magazine review of a 1,000+ page James Michener novel: "1. Don't read it. 2. Don't drop it on your foot."
“If you want want of these ‘cuz they look... like this...” lmao easily one of his best insults to any gun
“Ian roasts a shotgun for 6 minutes”
I don't think you're supposed to fire it unless absolutely necessary.
I think you're just supposed to wave it around menacingly while you're robbing a bodega.
:- |
Strohmann I’d buy that for a dollar
Was that Robocop ?
That was either designed while wasted or with the mother of all hangovers
So you said you wanted a shotgun?!? Hold my beer!
Thank you for doing this to yourself just for us!
What a fitting name. The terminator indeed terminates your shoulder