@@MacaqueStinx Does this mean it will occasionally refuse to fire at all until its been "updated" with a speaker and some old ass mp3 player that tells you about the latest add ons you can buy for it?
@@MacaqueStinx What about buying bullets? Is it "surprise mechanics"? as in maybe you get like, a wrapping to put on it, or maybe some ammo, or maybe a gold plating kit if you are lucky?
I mean you won't be able to fire it more than once since the first shot could have easily resulted tearing/beating the hell out of a muscle or 2, if not a tendon, and bruising the bones in the shoulder if you use the stock, or (without the stock) majorly fuck up your wrist on the trigger hand, and do god knows what else when the barrels slam upwards depending on what direction it goes with how you hold it. But if it's one or 2 people at mid to close range and you're only firing once, the shot from all 4 barrels would be an unavoidable wall of death. In a more significant combat situation, however, you'd fire one shot and it'd hurt like hell, then reload, fire again, and be rendered almost completely useless from crippling pain and long lasting injuries in at least one part of the body that's absolutely vital for firing your weapon, since this would be slamming into you with the same amount of force as a 500 Magnum times 3 except with a very thick, heavy mass of metal. So, for one and done, yes, but your skeleton will not be happy with you; in a situation that necessitates any consecutive firings whatsoever, hell no, you're going to give yourself permanent muscular and possibly nerve damage with any more than one shot, and just the one shot will likely do serious damage anyway. Plus the chance of damaging something on the gun to where it no longer functions properly is very high, most likely bending or cracking the area the primer end of the shells rest against, or even mangling the firing pin(s: plural since multiple independent barrels in your scenario) to the point your weapon is now just a club you can't properly swing with your wrist/shoulder in an extreme amount of unrelenting pain
@Han Lockhart Thank you for your egotistic comment, I appreciate you rubbing your perceived superiority in my face, please don't reply to me ever again.
Using multi barreled shotgun + Max anarchy stacks was crazy damage at point blank taking out non raid bosses in one shot Got me wanting to solo some borderlands again
Well the year is now 2019...almost 2020...it is a barren wasteland with little to no advertising revenue for any content our Google overlords, controlled by giant shitty greedy corporations, for any videos they deem.... Unfit. It is a time of chaos. RUclips channels banding together to form roving gangs, fighting over the scraps they find from adsense... One man stands alone with his liberator Mk IV SIX barrel shotgun, defending those unfortunate enough to find themselves the target of these bandits... Some knew him in the old days as "gun Jesus"....well he's back. Pray for forgiveness. (coming this holiday to a theater near you. Rated R.)
Reiky Foxxe So far they're mocking the weapon because they look like toys. I'm doing my best with my part and design shotguns with that aesthetic for my maybe-probably-kinda Fallout mod.
BurnThePope It's the Bethesda fandom, it's kind of par for the course for them to yap like that. Meanwhile, on my MSPaint screen: puu.sh/sCRvg/66fe116af5.png
Honestly surprised the green looking one never showed up as a blaster in starwars. Looks just weird enough that you wouldn't really have to add too much to it. Maybe an entirely unnecessary scope and some random machine parts and it would definitely look the part.
It's ridiculous that this is basically all George Lucas did to make the DL-44 and it somehow ended up being so much better than pretty much any other sci-fi gun.
I love how one ammunition type is advertised as "Special purpose load". Like, "Any special purpose you may be planning for, we've got the load for you!" Also the slug is SCIENTIFICALLY RIFLED!
@@TexasHoosier3118 too few shots? Buddy, if you need more than a couple SHOTGUN ROUNDS to repel a home invader, I highly suggest you take a good long look at your life & maybe make a few changes. Apologize to some people; donate to charities; make some positive steps in your life.
Home invaders don't always come as ones or twos, they often roam in packs of 4 or 5. A double barrel shotgun is basically a glorified club after the second round in that situation lmao. On the other hand, you can just get an AR-15 and you're basically a one man army in terms of fire superiority. EZ choice.
We need this in a game that allows you to modify weapons and have one of those modifications be modifying the hammer to fire all 4 barrels at the same time. It would be funny as hell.
@@januskristensen4930 quantity of barrels = 4 × Power therefore 4 B (Barrels) = P × 4) to find power add caliber and shell type. There is your math bro
I know a old guy who has one of these in his garage full of Awesome Shop full of antiques. I picked it up and ask him as I was able to open it up and see that it had for shotgun size barrels ask him if this was some kind of military shotgun. He said no he was told that it was a military flare gun. As I examine it I realized that it had to be more then chest a flare gun. But he quickly pulled it out of my hands and put it back up on the Shelf
It's so obscure he probably was told that by the person he bought it off of, who likely made that assumption, which was never challenged because of the small ammout of data regarding it.
@@secretbaguette More likely this guy didn't have a tax stamp and didn't want anyone talking about his illegal SBS. Probably got it from someone who thought it was a flare gun.
Magnesium is actually somewhat difficult to ignite when in large pieces. Many small aircraft use magnesium for engine cases and oil sumps with no problem.
I also fired the 12-gauge one. One of the awesomest times in my life was living in Washington DC. Being a country boy living in Washington state where we used to get the fire guns whatever the hell we wanted. Moving to Washington DC where you couldn't even own a gun legally. But my roommate worked at the J Edgar Hoover FBI building. If you've ever been in there they have this room that you can see that is just filled for weapons even famous weapons that were fired by Bonnie and Clyde, John Dillinger and so many others throughout history. His job were to maintenance those guns in that museum and all the other guns that were kept in that building. Along with maintenance sitting these weapons they were always required to be in firing order. So we, because he always brought me knowing I loved Firearms as much as him , got to go to this firing range at the FBI building. Or we went to outdoor shooting range and Arlington Virginia with some of the bigger guns. Like one time I got to figure out a problem with the a problem with the ammunition feeding system on a m1918 bar that was used by Bonnie and Clyde .. but I got to shoot and hold and even help work on some very awesome rare firearms
That's a very cool, unique story. What did you have to do to the Bonnie&Clyde BAR? The museum they have must be incredible, especially the historic pieces. Holding something involved in historic moments really connects you to the reality of things you've only read about.
Yah, imagine Hellboy 3 where he’s just walking around shooting monsters with a 4 barreled shotgun in each hand while smoking a huge cigar and eating a baby Ruth.
More because the Cody Firearms Museum demands all handlers of guns to wear gloves. Ian has handled plenty of ludicrously expensive weapons at Rock Island Auction House and not worn gloves.
He doesn't feel that firearms require any gloves of any sort to handle, as long as it is cleaned afterwards. After all, firearms are very durable items that are designed for use. He does recognize why museums do insist on using gloves, as museums typically have other, less durable items, such as old paper documents, fragile tapestries, and intricate artwork. So I suppose it is standard museum policy to handle anything with gloves, regardless of the object's durability.
Like any considerate peruser of other people's collections, he wears gloves if the items owner asks him to wear gloves, if it be a comic book or a combat shotgun.
@@classifiedad1 there's been a change over recent years where it's considered better not to use gloves for handling old documents and books because the loss of finger dexterity leads to more damage than fingerprint oils and acids.
The US should've given some of those to the Afghan people when they left. The Taliban would have a lot of trouble trying to take the country if people could just sneak up behind a Taliban terrorist and blow that jerk away.
This is true! Most folks don’t realize that firearms have been in constant research and development for over 800 years. Few things in modern life have been so refined, both for efficiency and safety, as the modern firearm.
the man obviously loved multibarrel firearms and tried his best to make them practical. I'm a big fan as well and hope to see more designs in the future.
I saw the Model 2 and immediately fell in love with this thing. When i eventually become certified to be a gunsmith, I WILL figure out how to make this.
Seems like it'd be a great home defense option! A modern improved ideation of the old Ithaca "Auto & Burglar" (back when those were legal). With break-action, short barrels and huge grip trigger they'd be dead simple and foolproof. In high stress situations fine motor control goes out the window, and it's easy enough to fumble a standard trigger or short stroke a pump when it matters most. This has every advantage of an SxS with two more rounds and far more maneuverable in close quarters than a typical 18"+ bbl gun with standard stock. Also it'd be very affordable. A genuinely solid idea, Winchester just had the wrong market and sadly wrong laws.
I’m so sorry I haven’t seen or heard of you before this last week your really good at doing what you do I am from uk so this is like a brand new thing for me.. And ppl from USA have no idea how how wrapped up in cotton we’ve been when it comes to fire arms most ppl haven’t even seen a gun in the flesh so this info from your video’s is big time interesting thanks mate
it would have been nice to see it in action , as for the ammo problem , they may not have had them at the time , but by the 70's they had speed loaders for revolvers and they could have used the same concept for that shot gun
Those things are...something. I love how the mk2 looks especially and I can only imagine how it would look to be on the receiving end of something so comical yet frightening. I would love to own one of those things.
There was a 1 barrel liberator shotgun that was used in the Pacific theater during WW II. I fired one in the early 70s it belonged to a friend who collected Pacific Theater Items.
Wow!! That is awesome!!! A 4 barrel Coach Gun. That would be an ideal home defense or survivalists gun. That Mark III with the side latch and ejectors would be fantastic to have. And the collapsible stock, well you could easily slip something over the end for some padding. You could even do one in .410 gauge for the children. Just imagine the fun they could have!
I would love to see this in the market today..... Such a convenient weapon to have in a bug out vehicle or something like that, super small and VERY effective.
Hey Ian, when you say cast in magnesium, is that a magnesium alloy? Given how soft and reactive magnesium is, I can't imagine it's an easy metal to work with or particularly strong.
magnesium is a very lightweight material. it's also cost prohibitive to manufacture things with it, which is why you don't see more objects made out of magnesium. it's strange they would choose such an expensive material to make a gun that was designed specifically to be inexpensive.
I guess this is where they got the idea for the Shortstop gun in Team Fortress 2. I love the design of these guns. They're silly-looking but in a cool way.
I am thinking that a 3D Printer & steel barrel insets & rotary hammer would make an awesome shotgun for home defense in 12 gauge, w bayonet mount, included. Picatinny rail for the laser sight. What more could you want?
Thats "Dragons breath" shotgun shells. And i imagine the guy who invented them was like "i really wanna shoot that guy with a shotgun, but I also wanna set him on fire. Hey, ive got an idea!"
William Prince speaking from what I've learned as the son of an occasional tunnel rat, probably not. 1. Too heavy. 2. Recoil hampering follow up shots. 2. I'd take the sound of a .45 in that close of quarters over a 12 gauge
Imagine if someone had just said, "hey, let's get the barrel length up to avoid NFA and market this as the cheapest new-made shotgun on the market, ideal for people who don't want to pay for lots of fine wood-crafted furniture, precision-milled receivers, and so on. People who want gun-care to equal a spray-down of WD40 and swabbing the barrels out with Ballistol. Do you think we could make that happen?"
There's always the cheap single-shot break-action shotgun. That weapon is simpler, cheaper, doesn't require the lengthy and costly process of barrel regulation, and lighter for the same barrel length. You can't get much cheaper than that.
Honestly, one of these would be great as a basic home defense tool. Very little that can break, minimal maintenance necessary, the inaccuracy wouldn't matter at close range, and it's compact enough that you could tuck it into a lot of little safe spots. A shame they never caught on because they really are kind of neat..
The base of a 20 gauge shell (at least those in my possession) is 0.690". In keeping with their minimalist design and cost, did they just use a 0.68" diameter straight tube and give it a bit of a ream in the chamber area so it would accept a 20 gauge shell? I note that the Defender was 20 gauge as well.
The grips on the wooden mockup remind me a lot of the grip of the whitney wolverine though I guess that shouldn't be to surprising considering they where both made by the same person
The problem was the whole concept of a cheap insurgent weapon that didn't require training to use having any effect. It's an artifact from a by gone age when people had romantic notions of winning COIN with small investments of unmarked guns and a handful of Lawrence of Arabia characters leading bands of exotic natives.
Considering how people are making shotguns literally out of pipe from hardware stores on youtube, this seems like an expensive solution to an already cheap solution.
They were created to arm insurgents who were't very proficient with firearms. They were relatively simple. Unrelated to that premise: once loaded, they become a 4 shot semi-auto with virtually 100% reliability. Pump actions do fail, and can be short stroked during stressful situations, and loading the break action is much faster. I think it's a fantastic idea for home defense.
Just a clarification of my understanding of shotgun gauge measurements. As I understand it the gauge of a shotgun is indicated by the division of a 1 pound lead ball. For instance a 1 gauge could theoretically fit a 1 pound ball of lead in its barrel, a 12 gauge a twelfth of a pound lead ball 20 gauge a 20th and so on.
11:32 So what you're saying is, with a bit of modification, this thing can fire all four at once? A certain doom marine might be very happy about that. The recoil will probably kill you though.
If I understand the WW II liberator pistol idea right, you're supposed to shoot a nazi with it and steal his much better gun. You're not supposed to fight an entire uprising with that thing alone.
Make a sure cheap, low cost shotgun.
Make it only take your specialty ammunition.
Is this the birth of the Free-to-Play business model?
A freemium model?
Games As A Service?
More like
Guns As A Service
@@MacaqueStinx Does this mean it will occasionally refuse to fire at all until its been "updated" with a speaker and some old ass mp3 player that tells you about the latest add ons you can buy for it?
@@Elenrai Yes, most certainly.
@@MacaqueStinx What about buying bullets? Is it "surprise mechanics"? as in maybe you get like, a wrapping to put on it, or maybe some ammo, or maybe a gold plating kit if you are lucky?
When you want the killing power of a sawed off, but the ergonomics of a staple-gun.
Hahahahah
Super under rated comment
Oh and don’t forget the price
💯
With the added benefit of looking like doom guy
Perfect for UPS drivers if those damn raiders...
Uhm... wait
The Torgue manufactured barrel increases projectile count by 11 pellets.
EXPLOSIONS!!!!!!!!!!
TORGUE WEAPONS REQUIRE EXCESSIVE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS
Haha lol
That looks more Jakobs tbh
@@bodhidavis1691 AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT READ THIS IN MR. TORGUE'S VOICE?!
What, no selector switch for "all barrels at once"? Disappointed.
@Han Lockhart bullet holes or broken ribs? I know which I'd choose.
@Han Lockhart gladly take that over bullet holes
I mean you won't be able to fire it more than once since the first shot could have easily resulted tearing/beating the hell out of a muscle or 2, if not a tendon, and bruising the bones in the shoulder if you use the stock, or (without the stock) majorly fuck up your wrist on the trigger hand, and do god knows what else when the barrels slam upwards depending on what direction it goes with how you hold it. But if it's one or 2 people at mid to close range and you're only firing once, the shot from all 4 barrels would be an unavoidable wall of death. In a more significant combat situation, however, you'd fire one shot and it'd hurt like hell, then reload, fire again, and be rendered almost completely useless from crippling pain and long lasting injuries in at least one part of the body that's absolutely vital for firing your weapon, since this would be slamming into you with the same amount of force as a 500 Magnum times 3 except with a very thick, heavy mass of metal. So, for one and done, yes, but your skeleton will not be happy with you; in a situation that necessitates any consecutive firings whatsoever, hell no, you're going to give yourself permanent muscular and possibly nerve damage with any more than one shot, and just the one shot will likely do serious damage anyway. Plus the chance of damaging something on the gun to where it no longer functions properly is very high, most likely bending or cracking the area the primer end of the shells rest against, or even mangling the firing pin(s: plural since multiple independent barrels in your scenario) to the point your weapon is now just a club you can't properly swing with your wrist/shoulder in an extreme amount of unrelenting pain
@Han Lockhart miss with 4 shotgun barrels? How?
@Han Lockhart Thank you for your egotistic comment, I appreciate you rubbing your perceived superiority in my face, please don't reply to me ever again.
This looks like something a generic “shotgun enemy” would carry in every shooting game in the 90s
Ahem DooM 1 and 2
Yea
@@mrbootystealer5712wrong decade
Lol yup all those shooting games in the 80's huh...
@@lambda-m1676doom 1 and 2 came out in the 90's?
Everyone "suprised" they havnt seen one on video game.
Im surprised i havnt seen one in Chicago
I just want a modren one
The Duke Nukem shotgun looks somewhat like a Liberator.
🤣🤣🤣
Tony Rios ay fr bro all we got is good awful hi points and aks
they are in a video game, look up the "Hek" from Warframe.
That rotating, ratcheting firing pin selector is genius. Simple to make, hard to break. Perfect for a firearm.
Honestly surprised this has never shown up in a Fallout game.
They've shown Jackhammer in first 2, good enough for me)
Alex Curr something similar was in the Metro games. It was a double barrel that you could add another two on top.
Alex Curr they got that rocket launcher with four shots on fallout 4
Kind of showed up in Metro, though that one used a different trigger mechanism.
This is actually really in line with those games' aesthetics.
The first liberator has a vibe of an old playground in a slavic country
I get doom vibes from it idk why
Must be all the paint.
I’m gonna say it I’m gonna say it
R/Oddlyspecific
Lord Of The Chinese Biscuit, Jesus Claus...
Bravo , you made me literally lol. Well done
Me : Wow! Four barrels, how unique. But, is that too many...
Colt: I GOT A FEVER! AND THE ONLY CURE ARE MORE SHOTGUN BARRELS!
AND MORE COWBELL
@@elijahsellers3727 defiantly more cowbell
If it took more than one shot, you weren't using a Jakob's.
Borderlands....nice!
They do the job!!
Katherine McPartlan Jacob Harrington on “Why Jakobs guns are so rare and expensive”
Using multi barreled shotgun + Max anarchy stacks was crazy damage at point blank taking out non raid bosses in one shot
Got me wanting to solo some borderlands again
@@eduy1985 i wasnt the only one thinking about borderlands :D
"lease comfortable stock ever"
Street Sweeper: "I beg to differ..."
Cobray Terminator has entered the chat.
@@F1god04 Doesn't the Terminator use the exact same kind of stock?
@@DeHerg non
The Colt Defender missed its chance to be in every 80s action movie. I feel like we all missed out.
very sad
Have i fired 7 or 8 shells punk? Do you feel lucky?
Reminds me a lot of the “homemade” shotgun from Metro Exodus when you find the 4 barrel upgrade
"They were just shotgunning it, so to speak"
I love this line.
Just watched a Sailor Moon commercial trying to sell me a Ford Fusion before watching a video on shotguns..... just all over the map today...
What fucking Dystopian future are you from?
Fuzzy Dunlop look it up it's fucking real
Well the year is now 2019...almost 2020...it is a barren wasteland with little to no advertising revenue for any content our Google overlords, controlled by giant shitty greedy corporations, for any videos they deem.... Unfit. It is a time of chaos. RUclips channels banding together to form roving gangs, fighting over the scraps they find from adsense... One man stands alone with his liberator Mk IV SIX barrel shotgun, defending those unfortunate enough to find themselves the target of these bandits... Some knew him in the old days as "gun Jesus"....well he's back. Pray for forgiveness. (coming this holiday to a theater near you. Rated R.)
Oh hey, it's the Fallout shotgun we never got.
Reiky Foxxe So far they're mocking the weapon because they look like toys.
I'm doing my best with my part and design shotguns with that aesthetic for my maybe-probably-kinda Fallout mod.
Joshua Madoc Most of the guns look like fake, futuristic, toys in Fallout anyways. They're almost all comical, or highly impractical.
BurnThePope It's the Bethesda fandom, it's kind of par for the course for them to yap like that.
Meanwhile, on my MSPaint screen: puu.sh/sCRvg/66fe116af5.png
Joshua Madoc Is that Starbound? If you release those mods send em up, they look great!
www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10826/?
Thats what mods are for
Honestly surprised the green looking one never showed up as a blaster in starwars. Looks just weird enough that you wouldn't really have to add too much to it. Maybe an entirely unnecessary scope and some random machine parts and it would definitely look the part.
Lol seriously. They’d glue a scope from some uncommon wwII rifle and corrugated tubing over the barrel on it and you got a star wars prop.
It's ridiculous that this is basically all George Lucas did to make the DL-44 and it somehow ended up being so much better than pretty much any other sci-fi gun.
@@johnnydjiurkopff He tapped into the unrivaled aesthetic of intermediary early automatic pistols.
@@grigoregruesome3606 Uncommon? They did that to nearly every ww2 gun in existance that wasnt a standard looking bolt action/semi auto
looks like a great space gun. huge buttons and triggers. pure power. and VERY compact.
"This could use as a survivalist gun."
Vault Dweller's pants bulge.
Bulgy wolgy 😳 uwu
This does look like a fallout gun
There is a mod that adds this
(You take a sip from your trusty Vault 13 canteen)
I spent two full days in the Cody Firearms museum, and I wager there's still plenty I didn't see. Make the pilgrimage.
So this is what you get when a shotgun and a pepperbox have a baby.
I love how one ammunition type is advertised as "Special purpose load". Like, "Any special purpose you may be planning for, we've got the load for you!"
Also the slug is SCIENTIFICALLY RIFLED!
ChimeranMonstrosity I've got a load for you.
@@Funhaus_Ryan ssßà
That is so much better than magically rifled! 😀
This seems like a fantastic home defense weapon, especially in the 16 gauge.
double barrel too few shots. Pump or semi auto can jam.
May I interest you in the Cobray revolving shotguns?
@@TexasHoosier3118 too few shots? Buddy, if you need more than a couple SHOTGUN ROUNDS to repel a home invader, I highly suggest you take a good long look at your life & maybe make a few changes.
Apologize to some people; donate to charities; make some positive steps in your life.
@@captross07 Flash mobs and home invasions involving a pack of "teens" is a thing and will be a thing the more the fabric of society decays...
Home invaders don't always come as ones or twos, they often roam in packs of 4 or 5. A double barrel shotgun is basically a glorified club after the second round in that situation lmao. On the other hand, you can just get an AR-15 and you're basically a one man army in terms of fire superiority. EZ choice.
We need this in a game that allows you to modify weapons and have one of those modifications be modifying the hammer to fire all 4 barrels at the same time. It would be funny as hell.
Unfortunately I have seen this in a game and it did fire all four at once
It’s the dragons breath shotgun in fortnite
I hate that I know this
@@spectre0969 sorry for your loss.
@@spectre0969 here ya go.
Doomstick from killing floor 2
@@spectre0969 Firing all four barrels would probably blow up the gun.
Firing dragon's breath shots would likely set it on fire.
@@doomguy1167 when having twice the fun is not enough, let's make it four!
dang I can't put my finger on why exactly but for some reason I actually really like these.
I think its the simple crudeness in the design. there is something elegant in simple, to the point, single purpose design.
I think they are pretty darn cool.
4 barrels 4 times the power
@@Aaron-mv1kd do you even math bro
@@januskristensen4930 quantity of barrels = 4 × Power therefore 4 B (Barrels) = P × 4) to find power add caliber and shell type. There is your math bro
I'm surprised I haven't seen one of these in a video game. They look awesome.
I'm not sure but I believe there are 4-barreled shotguns in Borderlands 2
They sure do look similar, some even have the grip at the front
Boom BaQ But those are pump action, use magazines, and fire four shots at once. But I guess the concept is similar.
andrack Would be cool in Killing Floor 2, eh?
There's one in the recent Mad Max game.
there's one in warframe
The MK II would make for a great Star Wars blaster.
Or DOOM gun
@@scunthorpe5513 Or just a great boomstick. Lol, put some dragons breath in there and watch it melt everything including your hand.
Everyone in here has that doom thing going on and I'm sitting here thinking boba fett all day.
Maybe then they will hit something
I know a old guy who has one of these in his garage full of Awesome Shop full of antiques. I picked it up and ask him as I was able to open it up and see that it had for shotgun size barrels ask him if this was some kind of military shotgun. He said no he was told that it was a military flare gun. As I examine it I realized that it had to be more then chest a flare gun. But he quickly pulled it out of my hands and put it back up on the Shelf
It's so obscure he probably was told that by the person he bought it off of, who likely made that assumption, which was never challenged because of the small ammout of data regarding it.
@@secretbaguette More likely this guy didn't have a tax stamp and didn't want anyone talking about his illegal SBS. Probably got it from someone who thought it was a flare gun.
Something, something something Webley.
Winchester: Hold everyone's beer.
These look absolutely awesome
really?
Arminius Yes, really.
At such a low price (even adjusted for inflation) I would buy four in an instant.
I would buy one just for the laughs of hipshooting it at cans in the desert
@@therideneverends1697 Now, home defense seems more likely.
16 barrels!
And then tape them all together
And you need four because?
looks like something Valve would have picked up on to make a new scattergun for everybody's favorite punching bag, the Scout from TF2.....
The Shortstop filled whatever role this could've had in the game only in pistol form
hmm... a shotgun made of highly flammable metal
interesting choice
wulfrvm l o a d i n g i n c ie n d i a r y r o u n d s
Magnesium is actually somewhat difficult to ignite when in large pieces. Many small aircraft use magnesium for engine cases and oil sumps with no problem.
Just don't get it wet
Con Dra I believe you are thinking of sodium. There’s about a ten lb magnesium rod in your water heater keeping the tank from rusting out in 6 months
If it's on fire and it gets wet it will also do a big explosion type of thing
Doom Slayer: *breathes heavily*
Okay?
Z4ID4N ' Okay?
@@raviolithief4009 Okay?
@@tm_14_44 Okay?
@@dankmemes2354 okay?
i love how it progressively gets uglier and more utilitarian.
Wasson_G ,I think these shotguns look very cool
the ugly makes it look... better?
I like how the one near the wooden looks like its poorly photoshopped
That's what you get when your product is dictated by profit margins via capitalism.
Ugly no cool as frick yes👍
Doomguy would enjoy this weapon
Jack Mcslay I would too.
GmodPlusWoW
I don't think the kick of a 4 shotgun shells matter to a dude who can fire a rocket launcher from the hip while sprinting at full speed
Jack Mcslay rocket launchers have next to no recoil.
nardgames Except the rocket launcher in doom has no exhaust holes to reduce recoil
Reggie from the Phantasm movies would definitely appreciate it.
I'm pretty sure you can still buy these over at the Marcus Munitions vendor in fyrestone.
Whatever you drive, drive a Fyrestone!
I appreciate this reference.
No Refunds!
400% more awesome! Also Torgue doesn't make their guns out of friggin wood!
@@onewhosaysgoose4831 unless it's a 90s ford explorer.
I also fired the 12-gauge one. One of the awesomest times in my life was living in Washington DC. Being a country boy living in Washington state where we used to get the fire guns whatever the hell we wanted. Moving to Washington DC where you couldn't even own a gun legally. But my roommate worked at the J Edgar Hoover FBI building. If you've ever been in there they have this room that you can see that is just filled for weapons even famous weapons that were fired by Bonnie and Clyde, John Dillinger and so many others throughout history. His job were to maintenance those guns in that museum and all the other guns that were kept in that building. Along with maintenance sitting these weapons they were always required to be in firing order. So we, because he always brought me knowing I loved Firearms as much as him , got to go to this firing range at the FBI building. Or we went to outdoor shooting range and Arlington Virginia with some of the bigger guns. Like one time I got to figure out a problem with the a problem with the ammunition feeding system on a m1918 bar that was used by Bonnie and Clyde .. but I got to shoot and hold and even help work on some very awesome rare firearms
That's a very cool, unique story. What did you have to do to the Bonnie&Clyde BAR? The museum they have must be incredible, especially the historic pieces. Holding something involved in historic moments really connects you to the reality of things you've only read about.
I smell bullshit
@@olliefoxx7165 holy crap that's right those guns are priceless
It’s very sad that the FBI museum is closed to the public
I love the styling of Hillburg when most shotguns have one or two barrels he builds four and when that doesn't sell he tries eight.
It looks like something Hellboy would use.
Excellent observation, I like that one...
Or mad Max
The final upgrade for Max's shotgun in the recent game is actually a 4-barreled contraption like this.
This would make a great mod for Fallout 4.
Yah, imagine Hellboy 3 where he’s just walking around shooting monsters with a 4 barreled shotgun in each hand while smoking a huge cigar and eating a baby Ruth.
He's wearing gloves. These must be worth a small fortune.
More because the Cody Firearms Museum demands all handlers of guns to wear gloves. Ian has handled plenty of ludicrously expensive weapons at Rock Island Auction House and not worn gloves.
He doesn't feel that firearms require any gloves of any sort to handle, as long as it is cleaned afterwards. After all, firearms are very durable items that are designed for use. He does recognize why museums do insist on using gloves, as museums typically have other, less durable items, such as old paper documents, fragile tapestries, and intricate artwork.
So I suppose it is standard museum policy to handle anything with gloves, regardless of the object's durability.
Like any considerate peruser of other people's collections, he wears gloves if the items owner asks him to wear gloves, if it be a comic book or a combat shotgun.
@@classifiedad1 there's been a change over recent years where it's considered better not to use gloves for handling old documents and books because the loss of finger dexterity leads to more damage than fingerprint oils and acids.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Interesting to note. Will keep that in mind.
This seems like a great home defense weapon with open iron-sights, short size and it could be super cheap in 12 and or 20 gauge.
The US should've given some of those to the Afghan people when they left. The Taliban would have a lot of trouble trying to take the country if people could just sneak up behind a Taliban terrorist and blow that jerk away.
I love this channel because more than learning about guns, Im learning about history.
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This is true! Most folks don’t realize that firearms have been in constant research and development for over 800 years. Few things in modern life have been so refined, both for efficiency and safety, as the modern firearm.
I would genuinely love to have one of these with access to ammo for it, it seems like a lot of fun for at the range
The Mk2 locking mechanism is so satisfying.
the man obviously loved multibarrel firearms and tried his best to make them practical.
I'm a big fan as well and hope to see more designs in the future.
I am very surprised this gun never actually show up in video games though there are some similar designs with fantasy aesthetic.
Croz Raven I'm pretty sure there's a shotgun in team fortress 2 based off of it
and lets not forget the hek in warframe
Oh hey it’s the Hek. I was wondering where they got the idea from, always good to see where game devs find weapon designs.
Seeing the white gloves comes out gives me mixed feelings, because you know it’s super rare and cool, but you know it’s probably not getting fired.
This is probably the coolest looking and functioning gun I've seen in a while.
I saw the Model 2 and immediately fell in love with this thing. When i eventually become certified to be a gunsmith, I WILL figure out how to make this.
Definitely!! I would love to see a come back of those!! Why this project didn't clicked is beyond me. That's a crime!
Seems like it'd be a great home defense option! A modern improved ideation of the old Ithaca "Auto & Burglar" (back when those were legal). With break-action, short barrels and huge grip trigger they'd be dead simple and foolproof. In high stress situations fine motor control goes out the window, and it's easy enough to fumble a standard trigger or short stroke a pump when it matters most. This has every advantage of an SxS with two more rounds and far more maneuverable in close quarters than a typical 18"+ bbl gun with standard stock. Also it'd be very affordable.
A genuinely solid idea, Winchester just had the wrong market and sadly wrong laws.
I’m so sorry I haven’t seen or heard of you before this last week your really good at doing what you do I am from uk so this is like a brand new thing for me.. And ppl from USA have no idea how how wrapped up in cotton we’ve been when it comes to fire arms most ppl haven’t even seen a gun in the flesh so this info from your video’s is big time interesting thanks mate
it would have been nice to see it in action , as for the ammo problem , they may not have had them at the time , but by the 70's they had speed loaders for revolvers and they could have used the same concept for that shot gun
The Mk. 2 is my favorite. Really beautiful.
Yea i would love to see the mk2 in a video game or something
Those things are...something. I love how the mk2 looks especially and I can only imagine how it would look to be on the receiving end of something so comical yet frightening. I would love to own one of those things.
"The least comfortable stock ever envisaged by humankind"? Come on Ian, you've fire a Street Sweeper! Lol.
Какие классные ружья!!!Хочу!Хочу!Спасибо что делаете обзор на такие эксклюзивное оружие!!!
- 7 minutes through a 16 minute video
"Problems with this gun"
Hmmm...
There was a 1 barrel liberator shotgun that was used in the Pacific theater during WW II. I fired one in the early 70s it belonged to a friend who collected Pacific Theater Items.
So a sawed off break action single barreled shotgun? Or was it able to be more than a one shot and done gun?
What the hek?
Warframe jokes aside, the stock reminds me of some makeshift Nerf gun stocks
zeus lim lol
This is just the origin of the Hek
Howdah shotguns
The Death Korps of Krieg wants 20 million of these shotguns.
AldanFerrox only 20 million
Prometheus Yeah, for the annual tithe of regiments. Next year they are going to order the same amount.
Chowdah shotguns
They would indeed prove useful for sappers. I am getting tired of executing men for sawing off Lasguns.
Wow!! That is awesome!!!
A 4 barrel Coach Gun. That would be an ideal home defense or survivalists gun.
That Mark III with the side latch and ejectors would be fantastic to have. And the collapsible stock, well you could easily slip something over the end for some padding.
You could even do one in .410 gauge for the children. Just imagine the fun they could have!
I would love to see this in the market today..... Such a convenient weapon to have in a bug out vehicle or something like that, super small and VERY effective.
Danged interesting.
Would make a unique umbrella rack if mounted facing skyward in someone's man-cave/castle.
Needs a proper BAYONETTE!!!!
A Mosin Nagant-style "spike" bayonet that would be attached right in the middle between the barrels would be cool
Hey Ian, when you say cast in magnesium, is that a magnesium alloy? Given how soft and reactive magnesium is, I can't imagine it's an easy metal to work with or particularly strong.
Yes, an alloy.
Cheers.
Why magnesium?
magnesium is a very lightweight material. it's also cost prohibitive to manufacture things with it, which is why you don't see more objects made out of magnesium.
it's strange they would choose such an expensive material to make a gun that was designed specifically to be inexpensive.
i like your profile picture
Damn, i'd love to get a reproduction of one of these, especially MKI-II, they just look so cool.
When Ian calls out your shoulder stock in particular, you know you f***ed up.
If they released a Vaykor version, I'd buy it. Better stats for sure.
I guess this is where they got the idea for the Shortstop gun in Team Fortress 2.
I love the design of these guns. They're silly-looking but in a cool way.
I am thinking that a 3D Printer
& steel barrel insets & rotary
hammer would make an awesome shotgun for home
defense in 12 gauge, w bayonet mount, included.
Picatinny rail for the laser sight. What more could you
want?
no
Looks like a gun from tf2
SirTickleTots Probably a Soldiers secondary, maybe a Scouts primary.
SirTickleTots Nah, Hellfire Shotguns IRL
SirTickleTots
the short stop for the scout
Sal that’s what I was thinking
that gun is so damn cool. i wish it was in production.
Me too. This would have be a great 4 barrel pistol
Incendiary ammo was a nice touch. Could be a whole new dimension of pyromania.
Thats "Dragons breath" shotgun shells. And i imagine the guy who invented them was like "i really wanna shoot that guy with a shotgun, but I also wanna set him on fire. Hey, ive got an idea!"
Incendiary ammo? It’s made of magnesium it’s a whole incendiary gun look up what happens when you put magnesium in water
The Sharps 4 barrel derringer had the same rotating firing pin.
Its like a Borderlands shotgun with its quad barrels and the weird sight
I wonder if tunnel rats in Viet Nam would have found these useful
William Prince speaking from what I've learned as the son of an occasional tunnel rat, probably not. 1. Too heavy. 2. Recoil hampering follow up shots. 2. I'd take the sound of a .45 in that close of quarters over a 12 gauge
Thank you.....very valid points
Bobistdeinemuda which is why so many great designs never take off.
Nellson Stout For many even the .45 was too loud and they opted to use other handguns available.
TheMushroombadger funny considering that I shoot 5.56 NATO and 7.62x39 with no ear protection. And I'm just 18
Imagine if someone had just said, "hey, let's get the barrel length up to avoid NFA and market this as the cheapest new-made shotgun on the market, ideal for people who don't want to pay for lots of fine wood-crafted furniture, precision-milled receivers, and so on. People who want gun-care to equal a spray-down of WD40 and swabbing the barrels out with Ballistol. Do you think we could make that happen?"
There's always the cheap single-shot break-action shotgun. That weapon is simpler, cheaper, doesn't require the lengthy and costly process of barrel regulation, and lighter for the same barrel length. You can't get much cheaper than that.
Honestly, one of these would be great as a basic home defense tool. Very little that can break, minimal maintenance necessary, the inaccuracy wouldn't matter at close range, and it's compact enough that you could tuck it into a lot of little safe spots. A shame they never caught on because they really are kind of neat..
Lengthen the barrel to 18", sell it to the public.
Include a metal saw in the package!
or 26" overall length :-)
26" OAL Colt model legal in Canada, so I'd want one.
The base of a 20 gauge shell (at least those in my possession) is 0.690". In keeping with their minimalist design and cost, did they just use a 0.68" diameter straight tube and give it a bit of a ream in the chamber area so it would accept a 20 gauge shell? I note that the Defender was 20 gauge as well.
I want to see a 6-cylinder revolver 12 guage shotgun with this two-grip kinda layout.
Seeing this made me realize that the Hek from Warframe is probably based on this.
The grips on the wooden mockup remind me a lot of the grip of the whitney wolverine though I guess that shouldn't be to surprising considering they where both made by the same person
Forgotten Weapons drinking game: Take a shot everytime Ian smacks his lips
The problem was the whole concept of a cheap insurgent weapon that didn't require training to use having any effect. It's an artifact from a by gone age when people had romantic notions of winning COIN with small investments of unmarked guns and a handful of Lawrence of Arabia characters leading bands of exotic natives.
Johny Ricco let's be honest you just wanted to be able to use by gone age in a sentence
+ Maxx Gibbs I can't even begin to describe to what extent your comment accurately describes my feelings towards Johny's comment.
"bygone" is one word.
Great catch right there. That one slipped by me.
The problem is that cheap insurgent weapons don't stand up to the ak47.
They were just kind of just "shotgunning it" so to speak. 14:34
lol
Considering how people are making shotguns literally out of pipe from hardware stores on youtube, this seems like an expensive solution to an already cheap solution.
SpecialSauces yup, I’m pretty sure some have disappeared from existence
Rip nonesuch
Thats an incorrect answer to an irrelevant question.
They were created to arm insurgents who were't very proficient with firearms. They were relatively simple.
Unrelated to that premise: once loaded, they become a 4 shot semi-auto with virtually 100% reliability. Pump actions do fail, and can be short stroked during stressful situations, and loading the break action is much faster.
I think it's a fantastic idea for home defense.
@@kevinhowell2818 I mean I'd rather one of these than a double barrel
I remember seeing these and the other quad barrel shotguns in the Cody museum as a kid, wild to see them here
Just a clarification of my understanding of shotgun gauge measurements. As I understand it the gauge of a shotgun is indicated by the division of a 1 pound lead ball. For instance a 1 gauge could theoretically fit a 1 pound ball of lead in its barrel, a 12 gauge a twelfth of a pound lead ball 20 gauge a 20th and so on.
Yes.
11:32 So what you're saying is, with a bit of modification, this thing can fire all four at once? A certain doom marine might be very happy about that.
The recoil will probably kill you though.
I want a modern version of this.
Dp-12
Oh sweet Hek, those quad barrels look real nice.
this might be the coolest shotgun i’ve ever seen (aesthetically)
Gibs 😍
That trigger is just somthing else man.
"Here`s Libby!!"
(BLAM x4)
If I understand the WW II liberator pistol idea right, you're supposed to shoot a nazi with it and steal his much better gun. You're not supposed to fight an entire uprising with that thing alone.
Looks like the Hek shotgun in warframe
It's exactly a Hek holy shit just no stock
A Mini-Hek to be more accurate.
YES, I was looking for people like you in the comments
As "silly" as this design seems, I seriously want one! 😀
The mark 3 looks like what a cartoon would make for a big 4 barrel shotgun that demolish a house with one trigger pull...
These look like a pistol, a pump and a rifle got crazy diamonded together