Excavator Main Hydraulic Supply Repair. DIFFICULTY 10/10. Case 170B.
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- This repair turned out to be so much more difficult and involved than you would ever guess, for a number of different reasons. This is definitely the hardest I have ever worked to fix a leaking hydraulic line, by far.
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Awesome video, glad I could be help in getting those hoses 😊
Le Large Marge will live on green pastures.
Yep, you saved the day, brother!
Very nice of you to help out !
Aż miło że europe's little texas udzielił wsparcia ;)
Hero! Greetings from the Netherlands.
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Just told my girlfriend that we would have dinner in 1 hour, 1 minute and 25 seconds, because i have to watch that farmer guy, my favorite. «Oh yeah that guy, i recognized his voice». So now i will have a beer, watch my favorite youtuber do his thing and then i’ll eat tacos. Greetings from Norway🇳🇴
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Dang we use that hose all the time 3 1/2 inch ID.
We use it here in the oil field for top drive drilling units drilling oil Wells.
You can either purchase it from Wilson supply or directly from Stewart and Stevenson one of the largest equipment companies in the world when we get it it ships right out of San Antonio we purchase it in 40 foot rolls it runs about $10 a foot.
It is the exact same hose you have sitting in front of you. Red label 150 psi working return hydraulic line.
I've been working in the industrial hose/hydraulic/fluid conveyance field for 10 years now. Next time you need something like that, I'd b happy to help. I'm also on the East coast.
The message is that you need to get some Brits in your Patreon, so that one of them could have received the hose and passed it on. 😁 But then we wouldn't have this fun problem solving video.
Don't worry, we're here! 🇬🇧
Yup, didn't need to be on Patreon. If you'd asked on RUclips I'd have helped you out with shipping from the UK.
I’ll gladly do that for you. 🇬🇧
same - happy to help
Same!
Didn’t realize I clicked on Cutting Edge Engineering! So much lathe work! Great vid so far I’m halfway through
As a regular watcher of both channels I wasn't surprised that the pin was induction hardened. Good idea to anneal the pin.
CEE are running a video this Friday having a rest day.
I thought so, too. I wonder if Kurtis would approve of his work.
I love Fridays CEE AND FARMCRAFT 101 what more can a man need on a Friday
Love both channels, my best way to start weekends! 😎
Commenting cause comments help the RUclips algorithm for you and I want your channel to grow so you make more of these awesome videos.
I'm also from Poland and I watch your videos. Well done Kuba 😀
Like me, as we say: dobra robota Kuba!
Foreseeing the change from English to metric, I spent a month's pay on metric tools. I was a Brown & Sharpe Graduate. All my tools were B&S. I ordered all metric tools from Canada. Then, President R. Regan canceled the change. My heart flipped. I again called the Canadian Supplier. Miraculously, they agreed to buy everything I ordered and pay me to ship them. Wow! I escaped unscathed, save for time and heavy breathing.
Largess Marge. The gift that keeps on giving.
Is there a major system that he has left unaddressed? I guess we'll find out.
With cutting edge engineering taking a weeks break it was farm craft taking over on the lathe. First thing I did was shout out ‘it’s induction hardened ‘ … I held off the comments until the end . Great work . Thanks Jon
I will share a Poclain story. There was a huge, front shovel excavator (red & white) that for many years sat in the same rural location not far from a highway service/feeder road. It was a hydraulic front shovel and not cable design. The excavator wasn't close enough to the highway to see a brand or manufacturer name. Originally it sat on vacant land adjacent to what was at the time a livestock sale barn. That sale barn eventually went out of business. It became an RV camp ground in later years. When the vacant land next to it sold to a church for a big new church and other buildings, the excavator was given to the owners of the now RV camp ground. They got it moved from the vacant land to the RV campground somehow.
Pretty sure teenagers had vandalized the humongous excavator before it ever got moved to the adjacent campground. Fast forward a few decades. I was big into heavy equipment and had long had a strong curiosity about why such a huge excavator had ended up there and wasn't used. A friend farmed some acreage on the opposite side of that highway from the excavator. I ended up on the acreage across from it where the friend farmed. He sold me a row crop diesel tractor that had broke down in the field. Noticeably that excavator was no longer where it had been. I asked all around and nobody seemed to know.
Well, I ended up hiring a heavy equipment hauler to move and haul the farm tractor I had purchased. It just so happened that the man I hired lived a couple miles away and had once been in management over a highway construction crew that worked on that same highway. He knew quite a bit about the humongous, front shovel excavator that I remembered nearby. His story filled in the blanks for all except where the excavator went to.
He began by saying that the excavator had been purchased by a mining company in Mexico. The Poclain excavator originally had been at a dealer in another state. Where? I don't recall what was stated. A heavy equipment hauler was hired to haul the huge machine across multipole states and at least close to the border. I'm not certain if in those years a US hauler could legally and safely haul anything into Mexico. I was told that during that era the highway bridges were commonly lower. This resulted in a heavily modified and longer route to haul the machine being necessary.
The man sharing the story mentioned how the hauler had to offload and reload the excavator several times along the route because of the lower bridges. That Poclain was 100 tons or more/ I am not sure what the exact model number may have been. That thing was much larger than any regular excavators I had ever seen in person anywhere. From what it sounds like, the hauler's trip took longer than anticipated and burned a substantial amount of fuel as well as time.
Somewhere along the journey in Texas, the hauler got word that the buyer had cancelled the order for the excavator. This meant that the hauler may not get paid for all his efforts and expenses. Just making it to where he was currently at, caused the man to endure a lot of frustration. No word on if he got ticketed by law enforcement along the way. I'm told he had enough of this nightmare of a hauling job and came upon what at that time was an unincorporated, rural location. There were more low hanging bridges on that stretch of highway which forced him to stay on the service road as much as possible.
He spotted the flat, vacant field along the service road and made plans to offload the excavator there. Since he more than likely wasn't going to get paid for any of his expenses, he figured the best thing was to unload the behemoth a couple hundred feet from the service road and call it good. Let the dealer figure it out from there. That Poclain sat in the same spot for just over three decades. Never found out if the thing ended up being scrapped or what. No idea if the dealer ever knew exactly where the machine ended up after the order was cancelled and the hauler dumped it.
that was alot of reading for not much story... i really dont think its even a true story, youre telling me the dealer and the hauler both accepted this sale/job without any coin upfront and were both just happy to eat the loss of a brand new excavator and what would of been days if not weeks of work? who was the trucker even meeting if he was just dropping it on this side of the border.. just doesnt add up
also if it was such a mystery to you why not walk across the road and ask the rv supervisor where it ended up, surely it was no secret, and if it was so hard to move the first time i have to imagine it was even harder now that its a rusty old pile that doesnt operate and has no value except for scrap
That engineering is equal to what my mechanical engineering machine design professor once said: "If one of you idiots put an M7 bolt into your design and can't write a 3-page essay on why it had to be an M7 bolt, I'm failing you on the spot". They could have either fixed the valve or the pump end relatively easily or just made the exact part you made, but no, the intern who got that assigned had to spec a custom hose with an integrated reducer. I didn't even know that was an option that could be ordered.
Hey John, thats an EMD coupler pin, the top number is the part number.
I am in the UK. Happy to ship something I can buy here to you, Dave
Same
To quote CB @ NBS welding " learn to work with what you've got and you'll always have everything you need " Jon, you just demonstrated the proof in that statement from the material to the tools and tooling. Ole large' Marge' never stops giving.
Your videos are a great start to the weekend, thank you for posting
I assume the case hardening was even, but when you turned it with the part tilted you removed the hardened layer asymmetrically.
When I saw where you were filing I knew what was up - but it's much easier to back-seat-drive the lathe from the keyboard than to be in the moment though. Thanks for taking us on the journey with you again
You had me in tears trying to figure out the material you were using (20 years manual machining, I remember those types of days). 😂😂😂 Great video as always.
Large Marge is turning out to be the Elizabeth Taylor of Excavators.
High Maintenance. 😂
Someone may have already mentioned this, but there are companies that act as a buy broker for companies that don’t ship overseas. You open an account and have your item shipped to the brokers facility in-country, then they will ship it to you anywhere in the world. I know it’s too late now, but keep it in mind if you run into this in the future. Those companies aren’t hard to find. Great video as usual so far! Had to stop and comment before I forgot
Well.. that was challenging on many levels.
It’s ironic that this channel is built on your frustration with dealing with monumental challenges and developing an economical solution. Persistence is working. 👍😁
These videos are proof that time travel exists. An hour goes by in a matter of moments!
Hi John, you have no idea how much I enjoy all your videos and handcrafts, really amazing.
Thanks a lot for such a great effort effort.
Thanks to your patron who sent you that hose!
Been down that road before, but with 1-1/2" fuel line that necked down to 1" at the pump. Couldn't get replacement hose anywhere, unavailable online during 2020. I took off the flange and welded on a barb to increase the size to the same 1-1/2" on the tank. One size hose, no extra clamps or fittings to create additional points of failure. Had the machine back together the next day.
You saved me from an expensive screw up when I tackle hydraulic oil replacement in the skid steer, time for me to rtfm!
typically a frenchman would call her Grosse Bertha (literally fat Berha) a famous very large german cannon used to bombard Paris during the 1rst world war and a name often used for many big machines.
In fact, your Adapter is the far most suitable Solution for the leaky Hose. It should be part of the original Construction of the Pump-Suctionline. But it is like always with Customer Problems. Sometimes the best Solution comes from the Customer, not from the Manufacturer. Great job 👍😎🇩🇪
My 1965 427 AC Cobra MKIII : Built Engine = $45,000 (Ford Racing Aluminum basic engine with very expensive components), 648 Flywheel HP. Not to worry, the original engine is in a crate. Now ... the resulting engine / radiator fitment had many odd angles. Resolution ... I butt-welded (TIG) light aluminum tubing sections and attached high pressure / high temperature flexible connectors at each end. Again ... this setup involves high temperature / high pressure. After 2 years of operation (and some polishing time) there are no issues. This would have been a very effective answer to Marge's low pressure / low temperature line and You could have controlled the fitment by having the tube "bent" to fit (no welding). I'm recommending You revisit the frame pass-through hole. The hose is rubbing on the bottom portion of the hole. Cut a 3" section of that Polish Hose, then again in half (length wise) and zip-tie it on each side of the frame to the bottom part of the main hose to protect it from vibration and chaffing against the metal. Based on the video, there's ample room. Also, if Marge wants to race, I'm available at Willow Springs, CA (BIG WILLOW), radar @ 156mph (not me ... I'm not stupid, but my #1 Son who takes after his Mother).
Greetings from Poland, always happy to help if you need something
Excellent video. Always enjoy watching your videos. It's always nice to see all the participation and all your viewers helping you with solve problems keep up the good work
I always find it interesting when machining the hardened layer off how it's just melts instead of chips
Haven't watched the episode yet but jumping in early to the comments...you must have either had a really good week or a really bad one given your back on releasing a video on Friday! Seals and Johnstons forever!
Really interesting. Nice job John. Large Marge is coming together a little at a time.
That is a very nice adapter you made.
Looks like it came from the factory with it.
I love the community you got going here, people from the metric side of the world sending you the hoses you need.
300$ including shipping and a tip isn't all that bad. Hose that size isn't cheap.
Oh, how awesome it is to have friends abroad!!
Was getting bored building Rc's and running errand now I can chill with Farmcraft it's a good Friday 👍 👌
New to the channel. You are an amazing guy. Never seen someone who can literally fix or do anything. Nice work.
A farmcraft video and payday! How could the day get any better?
Yet another great video. Large Marge is lucky to have such a talented owner.
Hi John, long time UK viewer here. If you are stuck in the future & the parts are available in the UK but you're having shipping issues from the UK to US feel free to reach out to me & we can see if we can resolve things.
Also there is re-shipping companies to get around the issue you encountered with the company refusing to ship to the US.
On this particular excavator loads of the parts are relatively readily available here in the UK but impossible for you to source in the US, which sort of makes a mockery of Case being an International company who should be able to source their spare parts from anywhere in the World.
But hey ho, well the offer is there if it helps in the future.
This channel makes my Friday better than I ever thought it could be. Thank you!
John, from one Virginia boy to another, your videos are freaking awesome. You do an amazing job with editing and your work. I am recommending your videos to everyone. Thank you so much and God bless
Wow, thank you!
Next time you run into a problem like that. Call oil/gas field suppliers. They use those mud line hoses all the time.
A pretty good machinist for a farmer! Good job Jon.
Can’t stop laughing at that part. So good!
gotta love it, at the very beginning of an hour-long video "shouldn't be too hard" 🤣 I think many of us can say been there, done that, and at the time wasn't very humorous👍
You're a trooper John, master farm mechanic.
This takes me back to the 3 months I had in Machine Shop during my apprenticeship.
Jon, great job making that hose fitting and getting it all back together. It is really enjoyable watching your videos. They are always interesting and exhibit your various talents and skills solving problems. You remind me of my father who also had many skills. Anxiously awaiting the next video on Large Marge.
"As the metal Turns" 😂
Thanks , John, great vid.👏👍🏻
Large Marge can now drink again. Good job sir.
You have some skills John Good work.
That hose look hauntingly like marine exhaust hose. I could be wrong I often am. But that might have been a resource that could have worked also. Great video as usual Jon Loved it!
We have used that hose for exhaust on marine engines. We also used copper fittings for tight bends. It worked very well
Simply put - a GRAND job Jon!!!
Well... if the pet turtle can't help you, you really are SOL... but maybe if you check with the elephants for an extra trunk... or an aardvark for an extra snout... and if they don't have anything that will work, you just might need to take your wife on a trip to Paris through that Time Machine I know you are building... right? Seriously, your tenacity (and all it entails) is what draws me to the channel, and you never disappoint. Thanks for sharing this one with us.
Jon, The expert fabricator and all around ingenious mechanic. When you showed us the book for the bleed valve, you should know that most of us trust you….haha! I like the solution you came up with. I’m just sorry you couldn’t find good hose in the USA.
boat exhaust/water mixed tubing would have worked great and is readily available in those sizes online. glad you got the material figured out.
Thank you JACOB!
Just goes to show have good content be a likable host and we will follow. Jon must make you feel good there are so many people ready to help you out from across the world, that is cool. Love your long episodes too!
Shaft was induction hardened. Hard on the outside only. Ceramic insert would have cut through it until you got to the chewy center.
*edit. posted before 23:20
Nice job. If you hang on to your extra hose it will be easy to fix it again when it leaks in 30 years.
Always look forward to your vids Jon. Bravo 👏
The fitting you made should have been an original part, nice job.
Hi John; you are determine to stop all those leaks ,you my kind of guy, I just can't stand having a unit dripping on the ground ,thanks....Norm
John you are amazing!!! Great job!!
Nice solution!
GOOD JOB nice piece of engineering you can turn your hands to anything
I thought of maybe using multiple sizes of short hoses fit inside the larger hose near the pump end to shrink the diameter down and using t-clamps to tighten it really hard.
But your solution was way more entertaining :)
Midwest Hose in OKC has all sorts of stuff like that we use in oil and gas industry
Very nicely done!
Well done, sir!
Great job, John. Excellent work
Hi John! I just love your channel! Thank you!!!
John...you should rename Large Marge...."Frenchie"
Great Video!!! I look Forward to your new Videos!
Haha largie Margie now that’s original.😂
Can't wait to see some dirt moved.
Larje’Marje’ is a hose monster’
That was an awesome repair! Love this channel. I’m surprised Jon doesn’t have a mighty-vac for vacuum/pressure testing considering all the engine repair he does.
Impressive work ethics (some people call it stubbornness) it is clear that wherever you do you do it right...great job. Ps. No wonder you got a good deal 💵 on that machine 🙈
Hose looks like loading hoses used for oils and dairy products - unloading trucks and reinforced hosing between Iso containers pods and fixed stainless steel pipework... Couplings are usually used - not belt clamps...
Really enjoyed this John, thank you so much...
Hello. Seeing your problem with hydraulic hoses, I was about to write that I can send it to you from Poland. But as I see, my friend helped. Regards 😉
Good job !
Hey, That hose looks like fire hose intake line and also fuel truck hose, also boiler line.
Nice solution doc.
Great video Jon. Wow, what a pig of a job. By the way, you did a better job of explaining the annealing process than my science teacher did over 50 + years ago, and he was paid to teach kids. 🇬🇧
Nice work John!
I watched too much CEE Australia to know what was wrong the moment I saw those sparks :)
my inner troll expected an explosion cut when the saw touched ijs :)
those years of playing with your Johnson payed off!
well done :)
Love your videos. Sure do miss them when you're not making them.
Nice work Jon! Great video thumbs up.
You got it in the end alright! Thanks!
Did ya ever notice the jobs that look simple always turn into nightmares.
I picked up 5 of those from the dollar store.
Darn! I didn't think to check there!! ;-)
Our Piggly Wiggly carries them too. Inch and Metric. Between the beer and frozen food isles. He should have said something...
One of your best videos.❤
Definitely exceeding hose connecter tolerance specifications