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Ain't threatened by a Minuteman General with power armor for days? What makes Gage think this general wont turn Nukaworld into one giant settlement even Preston's wildest wet dreams couldn't conceive..?
The raiders pretty much killed everyone. I recall being glad finding friendly scavengers from a distance only to watch them get overrun and killed by Pack members in like 10seconds
Mike Aba Not if you kill them first. Was able to save some of those Scavengers too, not all of them though. 3 lvl Scavenger vs 59 lvl Pack Tormentor is not balanced fight ^^;
I wish you could bring an army of Minutemen to liberate Nukaworld, that would have been epic.. maybe even BOS. .. I guess I'll just make do with the second best thing, a souped up Preston or that monster Danse.
He knows for sure that you're with the Railroad and Institute, two very secretive organizations, but he only "thinks" he's heard of you in the brotherhood?
- Contains moderate spoilers, I think. Or mild at least - Kinda funny, but I guess it depends? It doesn't take a rocket scientist (no pun intended) to figure out you're with the Institute after some point - as some people who are opposed to it know, your companions and perhaps even the general public to some extend as you blurt your radio message with your voice all over the commonwealth. You also take part in some major fights for the factions so chances are you are seen and associated appropriately. The Institute combat forces are also more 'distinct' - it's mostly Synths and non-Synths would be more obvious if seen - like scientists or anyone not looking alike, which could be the case of the protagonist. Think of a group of Synths and then Kellog - the odd one out visually. The BOS seems more like a generic army at times, making it possibly harder to distinguish you. The Railroad tho? Never was a big fan, didn't really play their quests but I get that they're secretive enough, on a general Institute level or more. No clue how Gage could find out. But all written is just an excuse or possible way of explaining the precise wording in his line - in the end Bethesda simply tried to deliver a brief mentioning of your faction choice to let it have a tiny bit more weight. Would have actually been funny if you had difference lines depending on what you wore. You could give the lines right now if you don't wear any cliché faction clothing - if you did it would be slightly different, like "I guess you really are with XY" or similar. But I suppose that saved some work.
+ Maugre Gage mentions the RR if you've defeated the Institute. I played it with a RR character who didn't yet stop the Institute, and he doesn't say anything.
The sole survivor makes some serious noise over the course of the main story, like gage himself says you're a bigshot, a lot of what you do is well known
Anyone else think that Nuka-World was kinda like Bethesda saying, "Here, you weren't able to be in charge of the Railroad or Brotherhood, so we'll let you be in charge of a shit ton of raiders. You're welcome."
Except it's really short if you choose to be a heroic character. I was with the Railroad and the minutemen. Plus I doubt the institute would work with a bunch of low life raiders.
@@jaeg.3806 Kellogg was a mercenary who only did what was instructed in order to get paid, much like the Gunners. Raiders take whatever they can get for their own gain.
Gage perfectly summarizes each faction: BOS: Take what they want, by force if necessary. Institute: Do what they want, no matter the cost or ethics. Railroad: Strung up in their questionable ideology. Minutemen: Fighting a fight that can't be won.
No, the Railroad IS strung up in their questionable ideology. I think Deacon says so himself as he complains that they focus too much on synths on not people, which he also thinks is why they don't have as much support as they could have.
***** But they could maybe pitch in a little, the Minutemen have settlements and settlers covered but the railroad could align themselves with the minutemen just to gain more support or something.Which I think Deacon even states is something they lack and they could send synths like Glory who aren't comfortable with killing the gen 1s and 2s.
It was pretty awkward that he recognized my Sole as general of Minutemen.. but still told him to take over Commonwealth's settlements for Raiders. Like no buddy, that's exactly what Minutemen are fighting against, Raiders trying to attack settlements and common folks. Being Minutemen's general made whole DLC quite awkward.
@@FeCyrineu the brotherhood from fallout 4 is really diferent from the outcasts i think they take the best of lyons brotherhood of steel and the outcasts and combine them very well
@@thedoggo5139 I wouldn't say "the best". They still force people to pay them, look down upon outsiders. care more about hoarding technology than helping people and don't consider synths or ghouls to be people. I'm not saying they are only bad. They incentive to clear out feral ghouls, super-mutants and raiders does make the Commonwealth a safer place, but I don't view them as the gallavant heroes they see themselves as.
@@FeCyrineu I never saw the part where they force people to pay them but i dont get whats wrong with the others we cant have every faction in the wasteland be goody two shoes we also need some to be focused on actually helping human kind not just helping a citizen at a time
***** I think what he means is Minutemen + Institute alliance which you can do in the game. Not only do the Institute and Minuteman alliance, but your the leader of both of them. (hope I did not spoil). What ever happens after you ally the two factions is up to your own headcannon as there really isn't any in game effects from the choice other than that one quest.
***** i mean the institute really is like, "fuck the comonwealth, we care bout us" And with the minutemen at our side, the minutemen help the People while as the institute leader you can control the threats to the institute, that are usually threats to the comonwealth as well
Funny, because one faction goes around killing super mutants, ferals, raiders while the other kills civilians and uses them in lab experiments. Guess which is which. inb4 as leader you can change the institute to be good. Yea right, because other department heads wouldn't kill you in your sleep.
I love this comment section, it's all fighting for their factions while I'm here like, bow down and feel atom's glow and watch as I launch this nuke and see you blow
The Institute director gonna organize bunch of dirty raiders to get caps, this is sure is part of that whole redefining humankind plan, Father just died too early to start his own raider gang obviously. 1) Get the energy to produce more free labor. 2) Start raider gang to get caps. Humanity redefined.
TBF, the Institute don't give a damn about the surface. So using a raider gang to get caps to fund it's research and round the escaped synths up would be a good idea I believe. Would also be useful for keeping any groups that want to take on the Institute too preoccupied with the raiders to do anything. Yeah, the more I think about it, the better it sounds.
Gage: heard about you. Your with the minutemen aint ya? Guess you'll be defending settlers from our attacks and bringing your group to wipe us out. Fuck it, you still get to be overboss anyway. (after doing open season) Gage: how could you kill all the raiders? I trusted you completely to be the overboss (preston shoots his face) Preston: good work general, now lets help those traders get their collars off so they can live their lifelong dream of running a nudist market. Babe.
I can definitely see a ruthless Brotherhood player who made all of the dark decisions during the main campaign suddenly decide to go rogue and turn on the Order and the rest of the Commonwealth. Spoiler Below: If you're willing to kill Danse, blow up the Institute with everyone in it and leave your synth "son" behind then ya, just screw the Commonwealth at that point.
Shaun called the minutemen and the people of the Commonwealth of Disgusting Filthy Savages. What Shaun did with Virgil has no forgiveness. And Shaun sent a troop of syinthetic destroy an entire settlement because a woman refused to be kidnapped. Shaun said the syinthetic Who want to make their own choices and choose their own destiny is wrong. The institute is rosponsible for the super mutants in Boston ( Commonwealth ) :(
If you’re with the Brotherhood: Gage: Respect If you’re with the Institute: Gage: Respect If you’re with the Railroad: Gage: Ridicules you If you’re with the Minutemen: Gage: Ridicules you
+StarterSteel the farm side quests don't mean anything because you can literally buy the crops, Acadia is just a bunch of robots excluding Kasumi because I saved her first. Terminals throughout the commonwealth also is meaningless unless you specify. There solid evidence that the institute are scum. You can't even take a violent route when doing the farm quests btw. Just intimidation. Can't kill anyone.
I fully expected gage to betray the SS the entire time. Like "hey, I know we made you the new overboss, but we were actually using you" then he leaves you for dead and takes you stuff. After surviving some hard dungeon or something you'd come back with your faction and wipe them out.
My Brotherhood Sentinel would want to throw that piece of crap out of the window for that abysmal analogy. The difference between a raider and BoS soldier is that raider could rape, steal, and murder without their piers judging and/or punishing them for their actions. Some may argue that the Brotherhood is okay with murder and theft by bringing up the "feeding the Troops quests". Any harmful actions are on the players hands not the Brotherhood. Do you think Teagon and his Scribes would be alright knowing they unintentionally brought a death sentence upon some farmers? Another point. Paladin Danse is basically the embodiment of the Brotherhood's ideals. He doesn't approve of murder or theft. His only sin here is his bias against ghouls in most cases. I've always seen the Brotherhood as "The ends justify the means" kind of people. They might not enjoy some of the things they do. But they feel compelled to because they believe that's what needs to be done.
Good job! You looked at the good side of the brotherhood but not the bad. What a nice brainwashed little biased one you are. Ok, sorry about that but it seems you completely took what gage said wrong. He said they aren't much different as they still take stuff, which is very true. They take technology without consent of people to "protect" them from themselves preventing the uprising of civilization again (and sometimes with force), They are willing to take food from farmers that are afraid of them, they hate wastelanders who are seemingly dirty like, they attack the railroad for really no reason besides maybe the weaponry they have (and don't keep synths), they attack any ghouls and mutants on sight without making sure if they are nice or not, hostile to apparently sane ghouls, and kill even people who are found out to be synths and killed without a second thought (example paladin Danse who even though was part of the brotherhood, followed them loyally, did nothing wrong was hunted)
The Wishard Starting off by insulting me? And then saying sorry after? No, that shit doesn't get a pass asswipe. Have YOU ever met a band of friendly super mutants in the commonwealth? You could probably count the amount of friendly super mutants on the east coast on one fucking hand! If that's not a good reason to treat them like pests I don't know what is. They only attack ferals on sight man. I don't remember being told by Elder Maxon to "exterminate" the people of the Slog or Goodneighbor. If what the case you made was true the Knights I saw the other day would have slaughtered the Slog. Goodneighbor directly opposes the Brotherhood in Ideology. The main reason the Brotherhood doesn't like ghouls is because ALL ghouls eventually go feral. They see them as a liability. As for Synths. Do you know how huge of a threat Paladin Danse could be if he was an Institute plant? Incredibly huge. It's basically impossible to tell the difference between a plant and a escaped synth without being the Institute or the Railroad without taking a huge chance. Was it morally right to banish/execute Danse? Hell no! Tactically? It was the only way. The fact that you could convince that mother fucker to spare his life shows that the Brotherhood isn't an evil organization. The Railroad determine the Brotherhood a threat the minute they show up in the commonwealth. They are clashing because they are ideologically opposed to one another. Like I said. They are the " The ends justify the means" kind of people. They aren't raiders playing soldier mother fucker. They do it because they are trying to pave a future for mankind. Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing for the right reason.
Yeah, I usually go Railroad. They're out to help people no one else wants to hellp, are way better organized than the Minutemen, and have a specific, attainable goal rather than a vague "help everyone" like the Minutemen or an overreaching "CONTROL ALL TECHNOLOGY" like the Brotherhood. Though I gotta admit, Brotherhood does have style, as do the Instititute. And the Institute seems to be the only faction in the universe who remembers how to use a damn vacuum cleaner...
Neither can any of the factions, the minutemen never leave concord without you, the institute never leave their hole, the brotherhood hide in their blimp the entire time.
I joined the Railroad, mainly because I didn't know when I could join the Minutemen as a faction at the time. But I still like the Minutemen and as such, after realizing I would have to take over settlements, and after trying it out, I went back to a previous save and killed all the bandits. I really didn't want those bastards running around the Commonwealth. I would have been fine if they had stayed in Nuka-World. But they wanted settlements, and I owned all of them. There are a lot of bodies now.
I thought I could control them kind of like the best way to stop crime is to control it kind of thing but I wasn't willing to kick farmers off there own land so I just decided to get rid of the raiders. They deserved it anyway. The pack are a bunch of savages and the disciples are blood thirsty maniacs. The operators are pretty bad too but at least they're not as freaky as the others.
And then theres me, the absolute psychopath that took the settlements I didnt have and just said "Fuck You" to Preston. I loved that playthrough. Went the Mercenary route with things
@@dylanpierce3045 fun fact, if you actually never go to concord and do the nuka world dlc story in it's entirety first, Preston never finds out about your using raiders to take settlements...and if you didn't set defenses at any of them, you can clear the bastards and take them back.
"They ain't that different from a Raider gang, you ask me. Just try and act all legitimate, but they still just take what they want." To be honest, it feels like a cool phrase at start, but with that logic all faction are "Raider gang with legtimate", even the NCR, Caesar's Legion, etc. Also, there is a world of difference between be a faction with obsession for the technologic, with a extrict rank hierarchy and, in other hand; Using dead bodies for decorating the walls.
Good video. I was wondering about this, and I also like how your four characters were helpfully wearing the right outfits for the factions to make it easy to distinguish!
They should not have made colter know about your past. It defies all logic. "Oh, the leader of an organization that we hate and fight at any moments notice? Sure we trust you to command us!"
+freakyskull516 well he only reacts if you beat the main quests. fyi the institute announces themselves to the commonwealth and sends synths over to diamond city. they take total control. who wouldn't hear about that?
Damn I like how they finally called out the bos everybody acting like the brotherhood is the best faction even though their just like the institute the only difference between them is that the brotherhood tries to justify anything bad they do because of justice
actually BoS are good, they keep dungerous stuff from ppl for don t make another disaster, they also rescue ppl if they have time. Imagine a civil with a nuclear bomb, you have to keep it in a safe place, and here BoS come, at leat they have a moral that is preserve human being
Truest words about the BoS anyone ever said. They're just another raider group that takes what they please and do what they want. I liked the Brotherhood a lot more when they were under Elder Lyons. He actually had a heart and tried to help the people, unlike Maxon who literally destroyed a city to build his precious Prydwen. What happened to all the people living in Rivet city? they just took their home for their own gain.
In the long run, siding with and becoming head of the Institute would probably help the Commonwealth the most in the long run. They have advanced technology that could help literally various different issues in the wasteland, from food shortages or power shortages. Even if they are shady.
Jaelon Griffin I'm just gonna assume when you do help him and he asks you to be general, he just turns right around and gets mad the second you say yes
I always just play the minutemen as an evil faction. Like I'll go with the institute and then have the minutemen function similar to diamond City police under McDonough. I usually go institute because I like teleportation. It's cool looking.
OMG now i know why i loved the Brotherhood of steel .... they are like raiders . Gage just enlightened me . Take what you want , do what you want and take out anyone who is in your way . Raiders = BoS
+ Nasko K. Dimov The Eastern chapter wouldn't be making purchases in Diamond City and with traders (as per the Prydwen terminals) if they simply took what they wanted.
what i did was partway through the nuka-world dlc i created 4 different sentry bots and armored them to high hell armed them with missile launchers and mini-nuke launchers and laser gatling guns and basically turned myself into a near immortal tank and decided nuka-world must be purified of the red raider menace and set to work mowing down every single raider and collecting every single gun i could pick up during the battle in the end i think i had nearly 200 handmade rifles after all of the fighting which i set out to set to stock and then scrap into useful parts my game became nearly unplayable from the amount of guns it had to render
What??? The brotherhood is so powerful now, I mean they have vertibirds and an airship. Even though they are a bit tyrannical now they are still better than Lyons' BOS.
Maxson's Brotherhood is one of the best chapters. Worst in the series? You really think those cowardly piles of slag in the Mojave are better? Even the west coast Brotherhood is just a stagnate faction, barely hanging on to the old ways. Maxson is a fucking hero, making the Brotherhood adapt and thrive, recruit locals, not just hoard technology, but actively produce and create new tech, and actually seek out a threat, close width and destroy it instead of hiding in a fucking bunker like rats. If you think Maxson is soooo bad, you obviously no nothing of the mid-west Brotherhood.
Why when I go to a settlement or farm for supplies it has "give me all your food and drink and free, no exceptions" or "die and be replaced by Brotherhood loyalist"
Well Interesting Video, I have got nearly 6000 Hours up in Fallout4, but Cage Always Dies 2 seconds after he opens the Door after Colter, and the Gangs within 30 mins of that, its become a speed-run of Sorts, for me, anyway, maybe I'll will be Friendly to Cage Next time, & actually check out the Dialog, maybe ...
Well the legion aren't the nicest people they're sexist slavers and even rapists. Well according to Veronica. I'd much rather have the BOS or the NCR rule than Cesars legion.
The only way siding with the raiders from a faction standpoint is the institute. Either orchestrating them to have control above ground or using them to help slowly kill off the above ground populace for a complete overhaul later.
1:48 Granted they're more principled against harming the innocent. They're more fascist than ever before, but they're not inclined to marauding caravans, pillaging settlements, rapping, deceiving or decorating their dwellings with blood and guts of friends and foes alike. For that matter, they don't seem to have that much interest in feeding chem addiction or scoring caps. Other than that, I see his point.
They take farmers crops exactly the raiders do. They demand payment from caravans for protection. They destroyed Rivet City by stealing their power source to power the Prydwen. They likely killed everyone in Underworld for being ghouls.
+lumpythebored to be fair rivet city couldn't survive for much longer. do you know how many resources it takes to hold an aircraft carrier together? not to mention the fact it was in a nuclear blast and the 200 years of lackluster maintenance at best.
Are his reactions to player factions based upon what you're wearing? Because I didn't get ANY of these reactions (even though I'm deep into all the faction quest lines). I was just wearing a mismatch of Legendary Gear and army fatigues
No, his ractions are based on a quests. Those reaction triggers only if you finished the main quest so that you could only be in a single faction. I used faction armor only for representation purposes.
Every time I play this dlc I hate it more and more because I can’t take it as a settlement for the minutemen I know other people might have said this but it’s true I want a giant epic war between them
I remember that there is a "red rocket" station that becomes available as a settlement after you complete "open season". But yea, no giant whole nuka-world settlement.
Is not that bad, what they needed to add was different voice types, this one just sounds so innocent and friendly, I always laugh my ass off everytime my character tries to sound menacing when speaking to raiders
I agree with both of your points. I liked making up the voice of my character in my head rather than have someone speak for me, but on the other hand I enjoy my character speaking, I just wish that their was better variety. Well I wish their was a variety.
The minutement can easily kill the raiders in nuka worls with the right leadership, tactics and weaponey they probabily can get 1 oe 2 but one is just luck which one is i
Gage is just a product of trying to survive in an unforgiving, post apocalyptic world. I don't condone his actions but he's honest. It's just too bad that I had to kill him once I turned on the other Raider factions. The other Raider leaders would have killed me,if given the chance. I just never gave them the opportunity to do so,lol
If you don't complete the main story before this conversation with Gage then he skips that bit of talk going straight from Colter being weak to being able to help you make it work. No separate dialog for not being aligned with a faction.
It should be noted that Gage himself is loyal to the raider gangs before you. They count as a faction, and therefore making an enemy of them, makes you an enemy of Gage.
Why does this look so bad? Is this on Console? I use HD Texture Packs and just grabbed the game for PC last month and just started Nuka World after finishing Far Harbor - Level 52 - Ultra Settings @ 144hz - It looks insanely stunning like RE-7 Graphics. (Seriously tho, it looks really bad) 2010 graphics er something.
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Ain't threatened by a Minuteman General with power armor for days?
What makes Gage think this general wont turn Nukaworld into one giant settlement even Preston's wildest wet dreams couldn't conceive..?
I like this guy
Well.. that's pretty much what my Sole is doing. If only I could put up recruitment beacons...
The raiders pretty much killed everyone. I recall being glad finding friendly scavengers from a distance only to watch them get overrun and killed by Pack members in like 10seconds
Mike Aba
Not if you kill them first. Was able to save some of those Scavengers too, not all of them though. 3 lvl Scavenger vs 59 lvl Pack Tormentor is not balanced fight ^^;
I wish you could bring an army of Minutemen to liberate Nukaworld, that would have been epic.. maybe even BOS.
.. I guess I'll just make do with the second best thing, a souped up Preston or that monster Danse.
He knows for sure that you're with the Railroad and Institute, two very secretive organizations, but he only "thinks" he's heard of you in the brotherhood?
- Contains moderate spoilers, I think. Or mild at least -
Kinda funny, but I guess it depends?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist (no pun intended) to figure out you're with the Institute after some point - as some people who are opposed to it know, your companions and perhaps even the general public to some extend as you blurt your radio message with your voice all over the commonwealth. You also take part in some major fights for the factions so chances are you are seen and associated appropriately.
The Institute combat forces are also more 'distinct' - it's mostly Synths and non-Synths would be more obvious if seen - like scientists or anyone not looking alike, which could be the case of the protagonist. Think of a group of Synths and then Kellog - the odd one out visually. The BOS seems more like a generic army at times, making it possibly harder to distinguish you.
The Railroad tho? Never was a big fan, didn't really play their quests but I get that they're secretive enough, on a general Institute level or more. No clue how Gage could find out.
But all written is just an excuse or possible way of explaining the precise wording in his line - in the end Bethesda simply tried to deliver a brief mentioning of your faction choice to let it have a tiny bit more weight. Would have actually been funny if you had difference lines depending on what you wore. You could give the lines right now if you don't wear any cliché faction clothing - if you did it would be slightly different, like "I guess you really are with XY" or similar. But I suppose that saved some work.
Maybe because that's the only "good" faction that's closest to a raider besides the Institute.
+ Maugre Gage mentions the RR if you've defeated the Institute. I played it with a RR character who didn't yet stop the Institute, and he doesn't say anything.
Technically speaking BoS just arrived in the commonwealth... So yeah
The sole survivor makes some serious noise over the course of the main story, like gage himself says you're a bigshot, a lot of what you do is well known
Anyone else think that Nuka-World was kinda like Bethesda saying, "Here, you weren't able to be in charge of the Railroad or Brotherhood, so we'll let you be in charge of a shit ton of raiders. You're welcome."
Except it's really short if you choose to be a heroic character. I was with the Railroad and the minutemen. Plus I doubt the institute would work with a bunch of low life raiders.
Pelcogo They workes with Kellogg. Having an army is better than one man, especially when they have no morals you need to get mixed up in.
Late reply but I guess you have a point. The more I think of it it would make sense they would use the raiders to they're advantage.
Pelcogo i worked with raiders
@@jaeg.3806 Kellogg was a mercenary who only did what was instructed in order to get paid, much like the Gunners. Raiders take whatever they can get for their own gain.
Gage perfectly summarizes each faction:
BOS: Take what they want, by force if necessary.
Institute: Do what they want, no matter the cost or ethics.
Railroad: Strung up in their questionable ideology.
Minutemen: Fighting a fight that can't be won.
I'd love an option to go loner style, albeit with a few friends along the way, no ties to any faction
True but doesn't mean im gona stop fighting that fight
True.
No, the Railroad IS strung up in their questionable ideology. I think Deacon says so himself as he complains that they focus too much on synths on not people, which he also thinks is why they don't have as much support as they could have.
***** But they could maybe pitch in a little, the Minutemen have settlements and settlers covered but the railroad could align themselves with the minutemen just to gain more support or something.Which I think Deacon even states is something they lack and they could send synths like Glory who aren't comfortable with killing the gen 1s and 2s.
It was pretty awkward that he recognized my Sole as general of Minutemen.. but still told him to take over Commonwealth's settlements for Raiders. Like no buddy, that's exactly what Minutemen are fighting against, Raiders trying to attack settlements and common folks. Being Minutemen's general made whole DLC quite awkward.
lucky there is an option to skip the take over and 'do the right thing' just think of it as some sort of deep cover job for the minutemen
you could just kill the raiders
Why kill them? Those fucking minutemen with their quests and shit.
Panda not if ur fed up with Garveys bs
@alena e Preston disliked that
If he knew me, he'd know I only ride or die for one faction. Atom Cats, baby.
In the fight for a cooler commonwealth.
yea I've heard of you... with the institute. People from the future taking our jobs!
Pfft, nice one.....
they stealing our jobs!! we don' take kindly for your kind around here :D
I miss Lyons' Brotherhood so much. Imagine what they could have done with all their newfound power and technology...
i miss the outcasts myself
@@thedoggo5139 The new Brotherhood are the outcasts, though. Or at least, they follow their ideology.
@@FeCyrineu the brotherhood from fallout 4 is really diferent from the outcasts i think they take the best of lyons brotherhood of steel and the outcasts and combine them very well
@@thedoggo5139 I wouldn't say "the best". They still force people to pay them, look down upon outsiders. care more about hoarding technology than helping people and don't consider synths or ghouls to be people.
I'm not saying they are only bad. They incentive to clear out feral ghouls, super-mutants and raiders does make the Commonwealth a safer place, but I don't view them as the gallavant heroes they see themselves as.
@@FeCyrineu I never saw the part where they force people to pay them but i dont get whats wrong with the others we cant have every faction in the wasteland be goody two shoes we also need some to be focused on actually helping human kind not just helping a citizen at a time
When a raider calls the Brotherhood out on their bullshit.
+teedonster2 institute + minutemen, nah, that is the Best
***** I think what he means is Minutemen + Institute alliance which you can do in the game.
Not only do the Institute and Minuteman alliance, but your the leader of both of them. (hope I did not spoil). What ever happens after you ally the two factions is up to your own headcannon as there really isn't any in game effects from the choice other than that one quest.
No minutemen is just the most boring, and they're disorganized, they've already betrayed each other once.
***** i mean the institute really is like, "fuck the comonwealth, we care bout us"
And with the minutemen at our side, the minutemen help the People while as the institute leader you can control the threats to the institute, that are usually threats to the comonwealth as well
Funny, because one faction goes around killing super mutants, ferals, raiders while the other kills civilians and uses them in lab experiments. Guess which is which.
inb4 as leader you can change the institute to be good. Yea right, because other department heads wouldn't kill you in your sleep.
I love this comment section, it's all fighting for their factions while I'm here like, bow down and feel atom's glow and watch as I launch this nuke and see you blow
In far harbor dlc
@alena e you can actually as an inquisitor
I need a fallout game where there is a children of atom ending, not a dlc, a main game
C-shift Report how could they?
The Institute director gonna organize bunch of dirty raiders to get caps, this is sure is part of that whole redefining humankind plan, Father just died too early to start his own raider gang obviously.
1) Get the energy to produce more free labor.
2) Start raider gang to get caps.
Humanity redefined.
TBF, the Institute don't give a damn about the surface. So using a raider gang to get caps to fund it's research and round the escaped synths up would be a good idea I believe. Would also be useful for keeping any groups that want to take on the Institute too preoccupied with the raiders to do anything. Yeah, the more I think about it, the better it sounds.
When a raider finds common ground with Institute methods.
Wow...
Gage: heard about you. Your with the minutemen aint ya? Guess you'll be defending settlers from our attacks and bringing your group to wipe us out. Fuck it, you still get to be overboss anyway.
(after doing open season)
Gage: how could you kill all the raiders? I trusted you completely to be the overboss
(preston shoots his face)
Preston: good work general, now lets help those traders get their collars off so they can live their lifelong dream of running a nudist market.
Babe.
A nicest market sounds really funny.
thought I was the only one who had all the traders turn naked for no reason
+Jon Puma no. It actually always happens. Theres a video about it
+This Guy it actually happens if you help the traders
"Now I got some more settlements that need your help"
I can definitely see a ruthless Brotherhood player who made all of the dark decisions during the main campaign suddenly decide to go rogue and turn on the Order and the rest of the Commonwealth.
Spoiler Below:
If you're willing to kill Danse, blow up the Institute with everyone in it and leave your synth "son" behind then ya, just screw the Commonwealth at that point.
Shaun called the minutemen and the people of the Commonwealth of Disgusting Filthy Savages. What Shaun did with Virgil has no forgiveness. And Shaun sent a troop of syinthetic destroy an entire settlement because a woman refused to be kidnapped. Shaun said the syinthetic Who want to make their own choices and choose their own destiny is wrong. The institute is rosponsible for the super mutants in Boston ( Commonwealth ) :(
Minutemen = Continental Army.
Railroad = C.I.A
Brotherhood of steel = Academi (Blackwater)
Institute= Nazis.
+Ivan Florêncio brotherhood of steel are more nazis at least the institute takes prisoners and leaves people alive
+funnyblog100 Nazi? So why the brotherhood has Black members and physically handicapped and a Homosexual?
+funnyblog100 Kidnap people + Fev Lab + Fev test = Super mutants in Boston (Commonwealth) :(
If you’re with the Brotherhood:
Gage: Respect
If you’re with the Institute:
Gage: Respect
If you’re with the Railroad:
Gage: Ridicules you
If you’re with the Minutemen:
Gage: Ridicules you
was expecting a fine bro intro when i read the title ........
You know, you gotta stay in trend :D
Just imagine if those assholes had their way, this video would have been flagged for having the word "react" in it.
Old Internet meme...
funny how you were clever with faction armor but didnt choose BOS on the combat armor lol
Ha! He nailed Maxson's new BOS.
At least Maxson wasn't doing some fucked up super mutant experiments! And murdering an entire settlement just for shits n giggles like the institute!
Stryker Hill
Nah, he just wipes out a town for not giving up their Waser Wiffles.
+StarterSteel he's never actually done that tho, that's made up.
Stryker Hill
The farms side quests given to you by the quartermaster, wiping out Acadia, all of the locked terminals throughout the Common Wealth.
+StarterSteel the farm side quests don't mean anything because you can literally buy the crops, Acadia is just a bunch of robots excluding Kasumi because I saved her first. Terminals throughout the commonwealth also is meaningless unless you specify. There solid evidence that the institute are scum. You can't even take a violent route when doing the farm quests btw. Just intimidation. Can't kill anyone.
I fully expected gage to betray the SS the entire time. Like "hey, I know we made you the new overboss, but we were actually using you" then he leaves you for dead and takes you stuff.
After surviving some hard dungeon or something you'd come back with your faction and wipe them out.
This would make complete sense tbh considering the sort of people they are.
The minute-men gear gives off an assassin's creed vibe.
Ezio! another failing city needs your help! I will mark a nearby bank on your map
Post apocalyptic Italy? That sounds kinda cool.
Pretty sure he was referring to Assassins creed 3 since it takes place in colonial America so it would be Conner.
My Brotherhood Sentinel would want to throw that piece of crap out of the window for that abysmal analogy. The difference between a raider and BoS soldier is that raider could rape, steal, and murder without their piers judging and/or punishing them for their actions.
Some may argue that the Brotherhood is okay with murder and theft by bringing up the "feeding the Troops quests". Any harmful actions are on the players hands not the Brotherhood. Do you think Teagon and his Scribes would be alright knowing they unintentionally brought a death sentence upon some farmers? Another point. Paladin Danse is basically the embodiment of the Brotherhood's ideals. He doesn't approve of murder or theft. His only sin here is his bias against ghouls in most cases.
I've always seen the Brotherhood as "The ends justify the means" kind of people. They might not enjoy some of the things they do. But they feel compelled to because they believe that's what needs to be done.
Ad Victoriam
Sentinel Gamin' Reasons
that makes two of us building castles in the sky just the two of us you and I
Good job! You looked at the good side of the brotherhood but not the bad. What a nice brainwashed little biased one you are. Ok, sorry about that but it seems you completely took what gage said wrong. He said they aren't much different as they still take stuff, which is very true. They take technology without consent of people to "protect" them from themselves preventing the uprising of civilization again (and sometimes with force), They are willing to take food from farmers that are afraid of them, they hate wastelanders who are seemingly dirty like, they attack the railroad for really no reason besides maybe the weaponry they have (and don't keep synths), they attack any ghouls and mutants on sight without making sure if they are nice or not, hostile to apparently sane ghouls, and kill even people who are found out to be synths and killed without a second thought (example paladin Danse who even though was part of the brotherhood, followed them loyally, did nothing wrong was hunted)
The Wishard Starting off by insulting me? And then saying sorry after? No, that shit doesn't get a pass asswipe.
Have YOU ever met a band of friendly super mutants in the commonwealth? You could probably count the amount of friendly super mutants on the east coast on one fucking hand! If that's not a good reason to treat them like pests I don't know what is.
They only attack ferals on sight man. I don't remember being told by Elder Maxon to "exterminate" the people of the Slog or Goodneighbor. If what the case you made was true the Knights I saw the other day would have slaughtered the Slog. Goodneighbor directly opposes the Brotherhood in Ideology. The main reason the Brotherhood doesn't like ghouls is because ALL ghouls eventually go feral. They see them as a liability.
As for Synths. Do you know how huge of a threat Paladin Danse could be if he was an Institute plant? Incredibly huge. It's basically impossible to tell the difference between a plant and a escaped synth without being the Institute or the Railroad without taking a huge chance. Was it morally right to banish/execute Danse? Hell no! Tactically? It was the only way. The fact that you could convince that mother fucker to spare his life shows that the Brotherhood isn't an evil organization.
The Railroad determine the Brotherhood a threat the minute they show up in the commonwealth. They are clashing because they are ideologically opposed to one another.
Like I said. They are the " The ends justify the means" kind of people. They aren't raiders playing soldier mother fucker. They do it because they are trying to pave a future for mankind. Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing for the right reason.
If you don't like what you do. Why do you do what you do?
***** Sometimes doing what's right doesn't make you feel like a good person.
Can't lie, I feel pretty damn prideful that the only faction Bethesda didn't write a bad word about in that dialogue was the Railroad.
Only because they are the most irrelevant.
+Sports Fan Tell that to the lantern flag flying over Diamond City and smouldering ruins where the Prydwin and Institute once were ;)
Yeah, I usually go Railroad. They're out to help people no one else wants to hellp, are way better organized than the Minutemen, and have a specific, attainable goal rather than a vague "help everyone" like the Minutemen or an overreaching "CONTROL ALL TECHNOLOGY" like the Brotherhood.
Though I gotta admit, Brotherhood does have style, as do the Instititute. And the Institute seems to be the only faction in the universe who remembers how to use a damn vacuum cleaner...
Because of the Sole survivor lol, the Failroad can do nothing on their own.
Neither can any of the factions, the minutemen never leave concord without you, the institute never leave their hole, the brotherhood hide in their blimp the entire time.
I joined the Railroad, mainly because I didn't know when I could join the Minutemen as a faction at the time. But I still like the Minutemen and as such, after realizing I would have to take over settlements, and after trying it out, I went back to a previous save and killed all the bandits. I really didn't want those bastards running around the Commonwealth. I would have been fine if they had stayed in Nuka-World. But they wanted settlements, and I owned all of them. There are a lot of bodies now.
I thought I could control them kind of like the best way to stop crime is to control it kind of thing but I wasn't willing to kick farmers off there own land so I just decided to get rid of the raiders. They deserved it anyway. The pack are a bunch of savages and the disciples are blood thirsty maniacs. The operators are pretty bad too but at least they're not as freaky as the others.
And then theres me, the absolute psychopath that took the settlements I didnt have and just said "Fuck You" to Preston. I loved that playthrough. Went the Mercenary route with things
@@dylanpierce3045 the true way of playing fallout
@@dylanpierce3045 fun fact, if you actually never go to concord and do the nuka world dlc story in it's entirety first, Preston never finds out about your using raiders to take settlements...and if you didn't set defenses at any of them, you can clear the bastards and take them back.
@Deviantbreed but then I can't tell him to go fuck himself
"They ain't that different from a Raider gang, you ask me. Just try and act all legitimate, but they still just take what they want."
To be honest, it feels like a cool phrase at start, but with that logic all faction are "Raider gang with legtimate", even the NCR, Caesar's Legion, etc.
Also, there is a world of difference between be a faction with obsession for the technologic, with a extrict rank hierarchy and, in other hand; Using dead bodies for decorating the walls.
0:40 Well maybe it's because if I tried to join the Raiders I'd get fucking shot
0:32 He looks like Haytham Kenway from Assassins Creed 3.
1:14 That easter egg to the University Point Massacre and the CPG Massacre.
Good video. I was wondering about this, and I also like how your four characters were helpfully wearing the right outfits for the factions to make it easy to distinguish!
They should not have made colter know about your past. It defies all logic. "Oh, the leader of an organization that we hate and fight at any moments notice? Sure we trust you to command us!"
Colter's dead
gamingwizard 120 Oops. I'm on mobile so I cant fix it. My bad. I meant Gage.
Yeah I was like Colter dosnt even talk to u except for threats
or better yet.
"youre a secret agent for a secret organization that hides all of its operative's identities? i know all about that."
+freakyskull516 well he only reacts if you beat the main quests. fyi the institute announces themselves to the commonwealth and sends synths over to diamond city. they take total control. who wouldn't hear about that?
Damn I like how they finally called out the bos everybody acting like the brotherhood is the best faction even though their just like the institute the only difference between them is that the brotherhood tries to justify anything bad they do because of justice
actually BoS are good, they keep dungerous stuff from ppl for don t make another disaster, they also rescue ppl if they have time.
Imagine a civil with a nuclear bomb, you have to keep it in a safe place, and here BoS come, at leat they have a moral that is preserve human being
"I can fix I can make this work"
an hour later
*shoots up nuka world*
"it just works"
Siding with The Institute and becoming a Raider Overboss is a balance of Order and Chaos. Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil under one ruler.
any time i see combat armor i think gunners
Truest words about the BoS anyone ever said. They're just another raider group that takes what they please and do what they want. I liked the Brotherhood a lot more when they were under Elder Lyons. He actually had a heart and tried to help the people, unlike Maxon who literally destroyed a city to build his precious Prydwen. What happened to all the people living in Rivet city? they just took their home for their own gain.
In the long run, siding with and becoming head of the Institute would probably help the Commonwealth the most in the long run. They have advanced technology that could help literally various different issues in the wasteland, from food shortages or power shortages. Even if they are shady.
Fun fact: Gage is voiced by Mark Rolston, who also played Drake in Aliens :D
The minuteman response is probably the most ironic considering what you could later fight.
Damn raider, he should learn to respect the Minutemen.
What if you reach the level to get to nuka world but never help Preston... and never joined a faction? What would he say?
ThatRandomName Nothing.
Jaelon Griffin I'm just gonna assume when you do help him and he asks you to be general, he just turns right around and gets mad the second you say yes
@@thatrandomname7788 Yes, that's correct. He then gives you the Open Season quest and won't interact with you again until you complete it.
Bliss :)
Nuka world is kind of a happy version of The Pitt
He’s right about the BOS being like raiders!
I see Nuka world as a place where if you have the caps and can bring the family together you can get what you want and be the one who always wins.
I always just play the minutemen as an evil faction. Like I'll go with the institute and then have the minutemen function similar to diamond City police under McDonough. I usually go institute because I like teleportation. It's cool looking.
OMG now i know why i loved the Brotherhood of steel .... they are like raiders . Gage just enlightened me . Take what you want , do what you want and take out anyone who is in your way . Raiders = BoS
my name is gage
I guess I've always been playing as the bad guy then. Now my character just fights for himself. I like being the bad guy though. It's fun.
+ Nasko K. Dimov The Eastern chapter wouldn't be making purchases in Diamond City and with traders (as per the Prydwen terminals) if they simply took what they wanted.
what i did was partway through the nuka-world dlc i created 4 different sentry bots and armored them to high hell armed them with missile launchers and mini-nuke launchers and laser gatling guns and basically turned myself into a near immortal tank and decided nuka-world must be purified of the red raider menace and set to work mowing down every single raider and collecting every single gun i could pick up during the battle in the end i think i had nearly 200 handmade rifles after all of the fighting which i set out to set to stock and then scrap into useful parts my game became nearly unplayable from the amount of guns it had to render
I hate what he says to dog meat. Dog meat whines when you hook up with him and Gage's say beat it mut
Same with Cait, she calls him a molerat.
He roasted the BOS but it's so accurate. Maxson's BOS is the worst one in the whole series
What??? The brotherhood is so powerful now, I mean they have vertibirds and an airship. Even though they are a bit tyrannical now they are still better than Lyons' BOS.
Lyons' BOS was 10x better. At least he gave a general shit about the people.
Lyon's Brotherhood actually felt like real people in a faction. Maxson's Brotherhood is a destructive hivemind for the most part
Maxson's Brotherhood is one of the best chapters. Worst in the series? You really think those cowardly piles of slag in the Mojave are better? Even the west coast Brotherhood is just a stagnate faction, barely hanging on to the old ways. Maxson is a fucking hero, making the Brotherhood adapt and thrive, recruit locals, not just hoard technology, but actively produce and create new tech, and actually seek out a threat, close width and destroy it instead of hiding in a fucking bunker like rats. If you think Maxson is soooo bad, you obviously no nothing of the mid-west Brotherhood.
Why when I go to a settlement or farm for supplies it has "give me all your food and drink and free, no exceptions" or "die and be replaced by Brotherhood loyalist"
Well Interesting Video, I have got nearly 6000 Hours up in Fallout4, but Cage Always Dies 2 seconds after he opens the Door after Colter, and the Gangs within 30 mins of that, its become a speed-run of Sorts, for me, anyway, maybe I'll will be Friendly to Cage Next time, & actually check out the Dialog, maybe ...
If only you could.. somewhat legitimize the raider gangs.
Jedai jesus Well you know the Legion is also entirely corrupt and evil.
I meant make them proper.
I get evil, but how the hell are they corrupt? That's pretty much the one thing they arent.
Well the legion aren't the nicest people they're sexist slavers and even rapists. Well according to Veronica. I'd much rather have the BOS or the NCR rule than Cesars legion.
I've already made my choices, but It's nice to see alternatives.
First time in this dlc i tried to make everything to so these guys would like me, after that i just killed them all every time i replayed it
Crime never changes, men do.
1:40 he’s not wrong lmao
The only way siding with the raiders from a faction standpoint is the institute. Either orchestrating them to have control above ground or using them to help slowly kill off the above ground populace for a complete overhaul later.
You know, I love the BOS. I really do. But Gage is right, Maxson's BOS is a fucking mess.
1:48 Granted they're more principled against harming the innocent. They're more fascist than ever before, but they're not inclined to marauding caravans, pillaging settlements, rapping, deceiving or decorating their dwellings with blood and guts of friends and foes alike. For that matter, they don't seem to have that much interest in feeding chem addiction or scoring caps. Other than that, I see his point.
They take farmers crops exactly the raiders do. They demand payment from caravans for protection.
They destroyed Rivet City by stealing their power source to power the Prydwen.
They likely killed everyone in Underworld for being ghouls.
+lumpythebored to be fair rivet city couldn't survive for much longer. do you know how many resources it takes to hold an aircraft carrier together? not to mention the fact it was in a nuclear blast and the 200 years of lackluster maintenance at best.
rapping so you're saying they rime?
If there is one thing the Brotherhood of Steel can't stand, it's hip hop.
I have yet to see them use cryo weapons. :P
Honestly I find it more fun to wipe out the raiders of Nuka World, just wish I could tell Preston that the general just saved an entire theme park!
he does the same hand gestures as nick
It’s a preset animation most npcs have.
Too bad no one has any redeeming features for any raiders in Nuka World.
catsndogs98 no you just use them as muscle to charge rent for the settlers who live on ya bases
Are his reactions to player factions based upon what you're wearing? Because I didn't get ANY of these reactions (even though I'm deep into all the faction quest lines). I was just wearing a mismatch of Legendary Gear and army fatigues
No, his ractions are based on a quests. Those reaction triggers only if you finished the main quest so that you could only be in a single faction. I used faction armor only for representation purposes.
I finished the main quest and joined the Railroad in my Mercenary build. i was wearing lightweight combat armor.
Think it's who you finished the main quest with
Gage reminds me of that one actor. Tallahassee (Forgot name)
Woody harrelson?
Hey you’re the leader of the Minutemen, why don’t you just become a raider? You know the thing you’ve been fighting the entire time? Logic.
What he gonna say if we'r not meeting Preston yet/before the main quest?
Here I am ripping the child of atom
gage is kinda scared in institute
Every time I play this dlc I hate it more and more because I can’t take it as a settlement for the minutemen I know other people might have said this but it’s true I want a giant epic war between them
I remember that there is a "red rocket" station that becomes available as a settlement after you complete "open season". But yea, no giant whole nuka-world settlement.
thanks todd, its.... alright
Jesus, even a raider of all people is criticising the Brotherhood of Steel.
I managed to get up to level 30 without joining any faction and he didn't say anything about any of them.
gage really reminds me of my boss lol
Hopefully the next game bathesda puts out will have an option to turn off the player's voice acting.
Is not that bad, what they needed to add was different voice types, this one just sounds so innocent and friendly, I always laugh my ass off everytime my character tries to sound menacing when speaking to raiders
I agree with both of your points. I liked making up the voice of my character in my head rather than have someone speak for me, but on the other hand I enjoy my character speaking, I just wish that their was better variety. Well I wish their was a variety.
Darkfox Bill There is a mod for that.
*****
Yeah, but I want to be able to mod my game to make it better instead of having to mod it just to make it acceptable.
I prefer my character to have a personality rather than latching myself to them. I hate blank slates it's a lazy way to identify with a character.
So anyway, I started blasting....
Nice character name
Since both names are together, I'm thinking the characters might be named for the voice actors Troy Baker and Laura Bailey.
Wait, dude, where did you get that synth outfit?
You can get it off synths or off x6-88.
But what he says if you are not part of any faction
what if you havnt finished a main quest line? just got level 30 through side stuff then went?
he just skip the line
I don’t like how cage had two good points
The fine bros copyright striked this
The minutement can easily kill the raiders in nuka worls with the right leadership, tactics and weaponey they probabily can get 1 oe 2 but one is just luck which one is i
I've heard about you and your honeyed words
Where did you get the outfit from the institute?
If you kill the synth that sells food you can take it.
X6-88 has it in his inventory.
AYYY THIS GAGE LIKES THE BROTHERHOOD
ADVICTORIAM
What does he say if you don't have joined a faction yet?
Who is Gage's VOICE actor!!
Can't hide shit from Gage.
Ad Victorium.
Gage is just a product of trying to survive in an unforgiving, post apocalyptic world. I don't condone his actions but he's honest. It's just too bad that I had to kill him once I turned on the other Raider factions. The other Raider leaders would have killed me,if given the chance. I just never gave them the opportunity to do so,lol
So he only really respects the railroad?
potatos are out of season thos is carrots time to shine
I don't think he respects any faction.
Honestly, I think that Gage is the most infuriating companion I've ever seen in a game.
What does he say if you don't join any faction?
He just skip right to the mission
my name is gage
so what?
@@user-hi2hm5ts7w late, but don’t be like that.
What would he say if you don't join a faction?
You have to join a faction
+Logan Sanchez you dont have to join immediately. I assume he says nothing
you can kill the bos railroad and institute
If you don't complete the main story before this conversation with Gage then he skips that bit of talk going straight from Colter being weak to being able to help you make it work. No separate dialog for not being aligned with a faction.
It should be noted that Gage himself is loyal to the raider gangs before you. They count as a faction, and therefore making an enemy of them, makes you an enemy of Gage.
Steel be with you brothers and sisters!! Ad Victoriam!!
Why does this look so bad? Is this on Console? I use HD Texture Packs and just grabbed the game for PC last month and just started Nuka World after finishing Far Harbor - Level 52 - Ultra Settings @ 144hz - It looks insanely stunning like RE-7 Graphics. (Seriously tho, it looks really bad) 2010 graphics er something.
Maybe it’s because you know you been using mods to make the game look better 👀
You know the moment I heard him say the brotherhood was like a raider gang I went on a genocide of all raiders.