Fox 2.5 Performance Elite vs King 2.5 Shocks Offroad
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
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There isn't one best shock for everyone, its whats best for you.
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Had such blast driving and shooting with you guys! Been loving the Kings. Maybe it's time we test SDI universal e click on the Kings next?
I'm excited to see this shootout. Another coilover which I can't find any real youtube footage on are the Falcon 3.3 Series Fast Adjust Coilover Kit that will fit 37's. They seem like a good idea but the only group on RUclips that can even come close to real world testing them are the Shock Surplus guys!
I ended up here looking for a ready lift/teraflex video.. I’m really considering that setup as well
There's nothing specific to the Falcons that allow 37's to fit, its just the ride height gain - which Fox and King and Icon and Eibach all provide enough for.
Thanks for your continued support, hope this video helps!
I have to say, I'm not sold on either but lean to the Fox setup. Please test the Falcon 3.3 Series Fast Adjust Coilover Kit that's made for 37's 🙏
I want to see shootout or showdown to see which is the best monotube shock absorber replacement for daily use.
Can u guys do an entry level of Bilstein B6/4600 VS. KYB Gas-A-Just VS. rough Country monotube shocks VS. Fox Monotube shocks?
And see which is still the best overall for performance, handling control, which one is firm or soft? And which one is definitely worth the money, what MM internal piston size it has?, which shock has a better digressive piston?, and which one has a better rebound control?.
And this is about stock ride height shock replacement, no lift involve.
thanks for the suggestion, we do have something like that in the queue. While we haven't done those specifically head to head to head, we do have a good understanding of each of them.
@@ShockSurplus I’m lookin forward to see this one day.
We know what’s the best monotube shocks.
But we want to hear more in depth from ya’ll.
U guys are the only real deal that knows more suspension, specifically lift kits and shock replacements to know which is best for what do we want for our vehicles.
should talk about the internals - which shock is built more stout-inside & out & service intervals ....
They are almost identical on internal component quality and service intervals if we are being honest.
Love these videos! Keep up the great, first hand real world experience!
Thank you so much for addressing on the limit performance it’s so hard to get reviews on this stuff and the problem is even worse when trying to find that information on stock cars most 4wd reviewers don’t even take them off-road properly let alone given any feedback on the limit handling of different chassis or setups. Please keep this segment in future comparisons would be great if you had any personal predictions when testing other shocks head to head say icon and bilstien something like ‘icon has great balance on the limit but not quite as good as I think an equal fox setup would of been/was’ purely hypothetical but hope it gets the idea across
Thanks for the feedback, thats our approach in a nutshell though - test as many as possible to compare against stock, and each other, in all environments.
High quality video. Well done.
Much appreciated!
I’ve had the fox 2.5s for a year. First - it’s a huge upgrade over stock sas. They are awesome off-road. I did buy a hand tool to help me turn the adjustment knob - highly recommend it. My only gripe is the rear springs are too soft - 37s, tailgate reinforcement, fold out table and upgraded track bar have slumped mine quite a bit. I’ll likely remove them and adjust the preload to compensate, but I wish there were stiffer springs available. Overall very happy with them.
thanks for the feedback, pretty sure there are firmer springs available for the rear. reach out to seanbowman@shocksurplus.com and we can figure it out
Awesome video. Appreciate your videos and knowledge on suspension stuff. So I have a 23 4 dr badlands and when I took ownership fabtech Dirt logics coilovers were the only option...how do think those compare to the fox. The Dirt logics are not adjustable so I guess maybe just the normal fox 2.5 with resi. Just wondering your opinion. Are the Dirt logics rebuildable? Appreciate your feedback!
Dirt Logics are rebuildable by Fabtech, we haven't done it ourselves. We haven't had the chance to run the DIrt Logic on the Bronco yet, so not familiar with the ride quality.
Very well done. I do know that King has since switched to a single spring in the rear now. Or at least they told me that on the phone a few months ago. For the king front resi mounts. I threw mine up front where the frame horn extensions used to be. Cut those suckers out and placed the resi there. Super easy to access and protected, no heat either!
I was flabbergasted to see you say how little height you gained from the Kings. My 2.3 Sasquatch with a bumper and winch sits what I think is too high at the lowest preload setting! Like way high. This is after 10,000 miles on them too. My steering angles are atrocious, I estimate about 2” lift at lowest setting. I’ve compared to a Fox bronco on 37’s and I’m higher at my lowest setting.
We could have definitely preloaded the springs on the kings much more, but height gain wasn't the goal, since the 4door was still going to run the 35s for a while and didn't need that extra clearance. On top of that, the driver isnt a hard charger, so keeping minimal preload would give him the best ride quality in his environments.
@@ShockSurplus im as low as it gets up front and I still sit high. I’ve compared to another Bronco that bought the Fox shocks and also on 37’s and he sits much lower then me. Just curious why my Kings sit so high
Same experience with my Kings on a 4dr 2.7 SAS. I have no added preload and net 2” of lift. ShockSurplus, do you know what rate/length spring was on the front of your test Bronco? Mine shipped with a 550lb 16” which I confirmed with King.
@@mikehastert7620 do you have the single spring rear Kings? In this video they discuss the old setup which I have which is a dual spring setup on the rear for King. They have recently switched to a single spring rear, I’ve been trying to find someone that has that setup
I have the dual rate spring on the rear. The tender is damn near fully compressed at ride height and has a nice clunk when going over bumps as it unloads/loads but it does perform well.
i have base 4 door 22 bronco what about ford proformance 2 inch lift coil overs ? please help.
I have the Fox 2.5 shocks on my '22 4Runner, and a pair of FOX 2.0 with reservoirs in the rear. And the knobs on mine were STUCK out of the box. Literally cold, they would not turn. I end up sending them to FOX for warranty repairs, after having them just 1 week. They did replaced some part (and did it for free) but the knobs remain difficult to move even today over a year later. This seems to be a common problem with these shocks, going by all the complains I read online. Nice shocks, but this is incredibly frustrating
we hear that a lot, its even happened on another brand's dual speed adjuster, its something in the shim stack mechanism.
I find it strange that my fox mtn bike shocks are basically perfect once tuned, and the fox vehicle shocks require an order of magitude more time and money to even come close to being "dialed". They should offer a broader range of springs available to be installed when ordered. Or maybe even engineer air spring shocks for vehicles.
It seems to me that the “benefits” of running 37 inch tires aren't worth all the negative aspects in how your vehicle can be set up for anything high speed anyway. None of the shocks seemed to have adequate rebound damping to control those heavy ass tires and with the added height comes less stability. Is gaining an inch of ground clearance really worth it? Then there’s all the potential rubbing issues, loss of bump travel etc. No thanks. I’ll stick to the 35’s it was designed for…..
awesome review! how would the king's compare to the fox 3.0 internal bypass?
I need help deciding what shocks I should get. I’m on the verge of getting a Bilstein 6112 and 5160 set, but I don’t want to regret it. I don’t tow often but I haul a decent amount of weight everyday and drive a couple hundred miles daily. 90% of my travel is on pavement, I want a smooth ride that can also support the weight of my material and ladders. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!! Thank you!!
Forgot to mention, I drive a 2018 Ram 1500 and I’m running 35s
I’ve been waiting for the dobinson mrr kit any eta on when they will be available
We're waiting as well, no word yet, they're very close though and have been in development for over a year from what we know.
Do a shootout with these broncos with Dobinson MRR ‘s ASAP … and compare them to king and Fox 2.5
Any plans to test and review the Fox 3.0 Factory Series coilovers for the ford bronco soon?
When can we expect the 8112s?
What would be softer ride on bronco old man emu (light) or eibach stage 2? What do you recommend?
I love the stock shocks on my 24 Badlands SAS. It rides beautifully. In fact, if it weren't for the weight on my Bronco, I'd stay with stock. Unfortunately that's not the case.
what else is going on the Bronco in terms of weight?
@ShockSurplus I just did a 10 day trip and my Bronco weighted in at 6180, same as my GVWR. I have a roof rack and RTT. Inside I have some molle panels and my camping gear
Make one for the Tacoma please
In progress! subscribe and you'll see when it hits
Has the vision team considered doing diff drop brackets to relieve the CV angles?
not at this time, we didn't lift the front that much.
What about dirt king
Thank you great video!
glad it could help!
who's better? i have a 4th.gen tacoma offroad???
if you're doing a bit of everything, we'd recommend the Fox Performance Elite. The adjustment cant be matched by King's offering. If you just want pure offroad comfort and performance, then King.
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Is the softest setting on the fox 2.5 DSC “softer” or “stiffer” than the Fox 2.0?
Good question, we haven't officially tested that on a dyno. From experience though, seems to be same/similar compression valving, but more rebound valving. So it takes the bumps about the same, but settles the vehicle faster, if that makes sense.
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Between these two shocks which would be the right one for a Sierra 1500 AT4?
Will I run into the Kings “Squeak” bearing problem? Is this a common problem with ALL Kings shocks ??
If I go with the Fox 2.5 Elites, will I run into the DSC knobs getting stuck problem? Anybody have this set up on their truck? Any feedback greatly appreciated! Thanks
both shocks have their risks, we'd say the Fox DSC adjusters getting stuck'ish is a common issue, depending on your environment and how well you clean the shocks off after a weekend of offroading. The King's bearings is also common/uncommon, once again - on maintenance.
There are a lot of other options depending on your year of vehicle and use, text us 213-433-3616.
Where’s this at again??
We do all of our testing in Johnson Valley, California where King of The Hammers is held.
Yeyeas love it
Some friendly advice. You drive very much as I do. Balls to the wall, almost like a trophy truck/rally car. You are fighting those giant ass tires in every video my man! The weight, WIDTH and fitment are all negatively impacting your Bronco and especially your suspension! Those tires are perfect for airing down in dunes or deep snow. The rest of the time they are a liability.
For the way that you are driving and testing shocks, you would be MUCH better off running the 35x17x10 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT tires! Do you REALLY need that single inch better ground clearance that you gained with running 37's? 🤔 * I didn't realize that I'd already posted a similar comment a few months ago. My bad.
The host making me sea sick with all the hand and body movements while he speaks 😆
lol thats a first, thanks for the feedback
Gotta love the enthusiasm
super annoying........
which part?