@@eg2070 Big Boss in Metal Gear 2 literally does a speech confessing that he uses children as war tools with the goal of repeating the "war cycle" that he and Snake are a part of He was definitively a tragic misguided villain
@@msmaria5039 this comment punched me in the gut in the best way. really sucks how hal barely knew his mom but reflects SO MANY of her positive qualities (loyalty, intelligence, bravery) and got nothing but similar looks and shitty luck from his dad 😔he deserves so much better than what he got
@@maldacah But I do think Hal got it better. He has a friend that's extremely loyal to him and who respects him deeply. He has a daughter who really admires him (it was never confirmed but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hal adopted her) and if we count Revengance as canon, he has tons of women who wants to date him both for his looks and personality
Hal is the guy with the otaku line? The one after/before (I don't remember I only just got past it a few months ago) the invisible ninjurai fight in mgs1? (Been playing other games since, had to restart since I moved from epsxe to the retroarch one)
Christopher Randolph doesn't get nearly enough credit for voicing a character as likable as Otacon, and as detestable as Huey, while using almost the EXACT SAME VOICE. That is mad talent.
It’s crazy how with almost the exact same voice, he voices a scared yet brave otaku who’s willing to do anything he can to help save the world, and also a snivelling conniving little cowardly brat who would snitch and sell out on his own organs just to survive, while still being a self righteous little prick. Amazing voice work, nothing short of genius.
Another thing I find funny about Huey: when Strangelove told him she'd give him a chance if he "stood up by himself" she was most definitely talking about his dependace on other people's work, telling him to learn to do his own research and stop using other, better scientists as stepping stones. Huey, of course, being Huey, thought she was taking a jab at his disability. Essentially, he took light-hearted constructive criticism to heart and made it personal. The blueprint of a bastard, he was.
standing up by yourself regularly means about will and independence, Strangelove admires strong wills, her crush was The Boss, one of the strongest soldiers in history, and Huey standing up by himself ended wrong because he's corrupted by birth, with a hard life in unsure times like post-war, ideologies too fresh about weapons and no close adults to see as a role model, he's like Yamcha from Dragon Ball after curing himself from his shyness, but a lot worse
Honestly it could also be a reference to the classic film, Doctor Strangelove, in which the German (ex-nazi) scientist who was wheelchair bound the whole movie (unknowingly) manages to stand on his two legs moments before he and everyone else dies in a nuclear strike
He wasn't the blueprint, he was the damn assembly instructions. 1. Take Asshole A. 2. Remove Asshole A's control over his lower spinal column. 3. Put the altered Asshole A into situation B. 4. Add Compatriot C and group D. 5. Let stand for two years.
As a person who was confined to a wheelchair for two years, I can tell you that his motivation for evil is directly tied to that. Your butt gets real itchy.
It's even more sad when you consider why BB even believed in Santa. When you consider the wording, "He brings me presents. Or well. He used to", it suggests that it stopped happening fairly recently. This would mean that it stopped in around the time of Snake Eater or not long after. This means that The Boss could've very well been bringing Snake presents and now that he killed her and no longer receives presents, Snake thinks that he's on the naughty list forever. This is further backed up by the existence of the Santa camouflage in Snake Eater. Now who could that have belonged to? Santa *Camouflage* . I rest my case, and with it, evidence that Huey is the most despicable character in gaming history.
Literally the most dislikeable character in video game history. - He is responsible for the deaths of most of the likeable characters in Peace Walker. - He destroyed MSF. - He is a complete coward. - He constantly pleads ignorance and blames everyone else for his actions. - He used his own son as a test subject in a potentially deadly experiment and suffocated his mom for trying to protect him. - He lies about literally everything. - Kaz's Arm - When he offed himself, he tried to take his stepdaughter with him because he is just that much of a spiteful, cowardly PoS. - He made fun of Snake for believing in Santa. - He stole research and gave the most powerful metal gear ever constructed to a group of incompetent child soldiers. - He robbed us of our chance to get revenge on Skull Face. - He forced Venom to kill dozens of his own men just so he could create a WMD to sell to Cipher and in turn mocked Venom for doing so. Honestly, screw Huey man.
He also mutated the vocal cord parisites as mother base was finally just finding a way to stop it's spread, by adding a certain radiation which led to a huge outbreak on the base. Forcing venom snake to kill eveyone who was infected and then huey had the nerve to try to call out snake on it.
the thing that bothers me the most about huey is that he looks and sounds like otacon which unconciously gave him this base trust from me because my brain said yo this is just otacon who is a good lad. Makes me think they did this on purpose for that reason.
Even In Peace walker when Big Boss Rescue Huey and present himself, Huey Said "Snake? Seems Familiar" It was a obvious Nod to Solid Snake and Hal Friendship.... But it was used to the perfect betreyal
@@heavymetalfishingla and that requires stairs and ladders to get between levels. technically huey's legs work, but his bones are as brittle as God's sympathy for him
If I remember right it’s not the first time he’s been tossed down them. In peace walker he’s pushed down them and you feel a little bad. Then it happens again and it’s everyone feeling good
@@HopeyDiamond Ishmael was NOT Big Boss. He was a manifestation of Venom's original personality, helping his "new self" get on his feet. But what about Ground Zeroes? And Mission 46? Remember that EVERYTHING we see as the player is through the distorted view of Venom's mind. A cocktail of incomplete brainwashing, hallucinations, brain damage, and trauma created a twisted version of events. Much of what we're seeing isn't real at all.
You could already see the seeds of Huey's shitiness in Peace Walker. This is a man who complains about having to build nuclear death robots for Hot Coldman but then immediately turns around and starts building them for Big Boss.
@@DragoonCenten Big Boss was initially against the nuke addition, he was fine with the Metal Gear as Zeke is pretty awesome. Who else sides Kaz convinced him.
And it culminates with his final rant as he drifts on his raft into exile: "SNAKE! You should be on this boat! There'd have been no inspection if it weren't for your precious nuke!" That line was a masterpiece of delusional self-victimization: the nuke was always Huey's idea, as was the inspection. The lies gave him a false sense of control, but in the end they were no different from his bionic legs, which only hid the broken man who had no real foundation to stand on.
santa clause is real. the real issue is how fucking ignorant people are to historic figures and people. saint nick was a real man who really gifted good children presents. he spread love and joy and asked nothing in return. the story is exagerrated to fit new nations beyond the origin. to say santa isn't real, is not only ignorant, but it's insulting to the memory that brought about such a joyous soul. the difference is the magic and illusion of a flying sleigh with reigndeer along with krampus and elves. these are extra details that every story from history is endowed with. from tales of magicians turning water into wine or walking on water, to conjuring tricks as well as manipulations of matter which in fact, are just tricks which, when described as they are seen, sound mystical and beyond comprehension. don't insult the mans memory just because you heard an exagerrated version. where's your fucking respect! i fucking hate this planet and everybody on it. you're all fucking insultingly thick.
The use of Christopher Randolph’s voice to give a veteran metal gear player a base amount of trust towards Huey was actually kinda brilliant, and it subverts the expectations established by Hal’s and David’s friendship later on in the series.
Yup i fell for it i thought "Sweet big boss has an otacon" didn't occur to me this is the same cuck who killed himself trying to take his step daughter with him
I resent the idea that this game wasn't good or as good as the others. That's just one example of how I feel like it makes the saga as a whole even better and more complete and full as a story and makes the other games even more fun to play and view under
Isnt that the first clue that falseness is good to hold is that we hold onto a false belief about huey. We like to hate huey and for me what I saw is that the audiance was a integral part of that with a sense of groupthink. We have a comedic and conceptual sense of huey but facts didnt show the rest only what was shown and said. And when he died by committing suicide and saying what gose around comes around. What mentality that is, in the real world actually exists, and if that is common good, it sounds half sword insidious while with a straight face. I thought kojima was giving a social experiment tricky us, and it did well.
Okay, here's the plan. Develop a new type of aircraft based on Santa's sleigh. Additionally, develop a suit that makes someone look quite a ways fatter than they actually are. Next, acrue funding for presents for every member of the Diamond Dogs (also, research the wants of every member of Diamond Dogs beyond being with Big Boss which would be granted anyway as an extra thing). Finally, on Christmas Eve night, activate the 'Sleigh' and fly it over Mother Base while blasting "Ho Ho Ho!" from the speakers. If Big Boss sees it, he'll be none the wiser and will even be more excited. Finally, on Christmas morning, bring everyone to the Command Platform and give out the presents. Big Boss will be handed his present by none other than 'Santa'.
@@peepeepoopoo7724 I mean in a world where people can prolong their lives and gain super human abilities thanks to parasite and nanomachines, he very well can be real in the metal gear universe
I still think that Venom's punishment for Huey was perfect. He sent Huey into the heartless sea, unlike his dead comrades, who he ordered to have diamonds made from their ashes instead of having been thrown into the sea.
plus, if he had his legs, he could at least use them to help paddle his raft or w/e, but without the use of his legs he could barely shift around to get his food and water, he is a very lucky man that he survived.
@@heliveruscalion9124 i have a headcanon that once Huey made it to land and got back to the states, he immediately snitched on Diamond Dogs and let the world know they were a bunch of whackjobs.
@@Palemagpieno, those are rough diamonds, naturally made. The diamonds made from the ashes can be found on the ”diamond dogs” shoulder patch on all mother base soldiers
@@Caryll_byrgenwerth-scholar -Revolver "I took advantage of the Patriot A.I's routine way of thinking so that JD and the rest can be destroyed." Ocelot.
Here are the rules. Don't matter how old they are, if they believe Santa is real, you nod your head and smile. If they ask if Santa is real, you lay out the truth for them.
yeah, lay out the truth like how it's asinine to say "twenty oh one" for one of the greatest movies ever made like you're an alien who has never heard of, seen or spoken about before this very moment at 2:13
It's truly amazing how Hal and Huey are polar opposites. Hal is a scientist who wants to do good for the world, and believed REX was gonna be something to make the world a better place. When he learns the truth, he's horrified about the monster he created and blames himself. Despite not being a fighter, he does everything he can to help Snake on his mission to destroy it. He even stays behind on Shadow Moses to cover his and Meryl's escape route, despite knowing the base will be bombed and he'll die in it. He loses a lot of people he loves and cares about, but still finds strength to move on and keep fighting. He goes from being a secluded man, to being a hero of the world who brings an end to the Patriots' reign. Huey is a scientist who doesn't care at all about anything, or anyone, but himself. He builds WMDs with no regards at all for what it'll do to the world and kill so many. He even tried to create a weapon on MSF's Mother Base to sell to Cipher. He doesn't care about his loved ones at all. He didn't truly love Strangelove. He put his own child at risk by trying to make him a test pilot. He tried to kill Emma when he committed suicide. He allowed the near death of MSF and got so many people killed because of his actions. Instead of facing his consequences, he arrogantly believed it wasn't his fault. He blamed everyone else for his own actions, and believes himself to somehow be the "hero". He goes from a man who seems to want to help Big Boss, to being a remorseless monster who sees others as disposable and doesn't care what terrible weapons he makes so long as he gets some sort of profit. Usually in the MGS series, people think the real bad guy was Liquid or Zero. However, I feel the real villain in the entire MGS series is Huey. Liquid at least was born into a life he didn't want and wasn't even supposed to exist. Zero at least had good intentions and wanted to make amends with Big Boss. Huey is a man though that has nothing redeeming himself at all. He's a monster who cares only about himself, and he did nothing but cause death and destruction everywhere he went and blamed everyone else around him. He's the real villain of MGS.
Allow me to add more fuel to the fire. Apparently Strangelove was the one who was coding the Patriots AI`s and her death led to the system being poorly designed including a lack of empathy and given broad instructions. Sooo...Huey is the cause of the rouge AI`s. :V
@@bjosto1251 When you guys put it that way, that would mean that literally almost every bad thing that happens in the MGS universe during and after Peace Walker can be directly traced back to being Huey's fault in some form. I say "almost" because Operation Snake Eater and the war between Zero and BB definitely caused their own problems for the global state of affairs, but it can be arguably said that those problems wouldn't have been anywhere *near* as bad were it not for Huey's later involvement. The only good thing to come from Huey was Hal, and in the long run that basically just amounted to Otacon cleaning up his father's mess (possibly even his whole family's mess, given his grandfather's presence on the Manhattan Project).
Another thing no one seems to talk about is how differently they handled killing an enemy. Otacon hesitated and ultimately missed his shot at getting revenge for Emma when Naomi told him to peg Vamp with the syringe, despite being the one person in the room who'd be justified in killing Vamp. Skullface never did jack shit to Huey besides pushing him down some stairs, and Huey williingly helped the bastard, but Huey shot him anyways and cheered for a revenge that wasn't even his own.
Boss: So Huey why’d you put Nukes on Zeke Huey: no reason Huey in TPP: Boss if it weren’t for you and your damn nukes none of this would’ve happened! Boss: 😑
@@Doodle-MeWasHere So fun little detail An actual fire bionic arm was planned for TPP, but the idea scrapped along with a parasite arm and some other models
I love Doktor because Doktor is basically who Huey would have been if he weren't a sociopath. Doktor felt sorry for what he did building weapons as a scientist under the Soviet Union, however he didn't have a choice unlike Huey, so when he came to the west, he IMMEDIATELY SHOWED THAT HE COULD USE HIS EXPERTISE FOR GOOD. Doktor exists in the world of Metal Gear to do two things: Help disabled people with his cyborg technology, and help Raiden destroy the shitty UG's that Desperado and other PMCs built through reverse engineering his work. By the end of Rising, he's used this to SAVE potentially THOUSANDS of orphans' lives during the World Martial Incident alone, and we don't know what he did between the fall of the berlin wall and the beginning of Rising.
It's kinda cool cus it felt like Raiden was gonna be kind of powerless when it came to salvaging the lives of the kids/brains he saved during the WM incident. Like he'd saved them from the worst but they were basically screwed now anyway and would be lucky to have any semblance of a life. Then Doktor just causally lays out his entire plan (which has a nice amount of detail and makes a decent amount of sense) and is like "I got yo back homie!". Dude's a great example of the 'science hero' trope and feels useful and powerful in his own way despite having nothing resembling combat ability or ruthlessness. Huey just makes you go: "Imagine all the good you could have done if you weren't this much of a sad, spiteful, remorseless, utter bastard."
Communists, socialists, and fascists all do this. They accuse their enemies of their own crimes and claim the moral high ground. Their doublethink sickens me.
@@combativeThinker wow, said like someone who clearly knows nothing about communism or socialism. Probably not much about fascism either but at least you're right there
@@fangsabre Condescension will not win friends. Now I know a good bit of history. That Merrill fellow is right that it's a common tactic used by those who follow both communism & fascism. As for socialist? Well historically both communist and fascist have claimed the title "socialist". Even the books written by members of the "Nazi party" referred to themselves as socialist. Many powerful people today prefer to be called socialist, even if they are communist in practice. I do not know if many people know what the word means these days. So many people just use it to label themselves since both words "communist" & "fascist" are currently social taboos in the western world.
@@fangsabre My guy Communism and Socialism have killed MORE civilians than Fascism. Hitler's camps were child's play compared to Stalin and Mao. And yes they did ethnic cleansings of the Jews just like Hitler but we don't get taught that in school. China to this day is committing genocide. You are ignorant of history.
Huey: *Shoots a man sitting on a chair eight times. Reloads the gun. Continues to shoot them until the gun runs out of ammo.* *Looks towards the Camera* Huey: "Why did Big Boss murder that man?"
sometimes i think about the post mgsv concept art of huey and hal and even as a young child, hal just looks so broken. especially compared to how bright he was with strangelove. and huey... huey did that to him. there is no end to my rage toward this man.
There were like 2 or 3 scenarios here were Huey actively offered and pursued making these weapons and added nukes to them and was in different when questioned. He made hinself both.
Ocelot's mother pretended not to know him to protect Ocelot. Huey pretended not to know his son to save his own life, despite using him for dangerous experiments. I'm glad Ocelot got a chance to torture him.
@@cosmicneko7225 You're right. Not in the original pilot episode, but later on as the seasons go. Brock becomes attached to the boys and does keep Rusty in line every now and again.
He also tried to commit MURDER on top of that suicide (Drown himself AND Emma), thankfully she survived but was horrifically traumatised and we got that particular part of the fucking escort mission in MGS2.
@@loserinasuit7880 I get that, I think it's more that I'm mad that after all he did, he never pays for his crimes. We, "the player" never get retribution against him for his actions.
Huey didn’t kill Skullface to stop him from being interrogated. They never were going to interrogate him. They were going to leave him to die painfully in the name of revenge, Huey killing Skullface wasn’t to rob the player of getting to kill him, it was to show how his motives were separate from everyone else’s, showing how he never was truly working with Venom, he was working against him.
Skull Face likely would not have actually died there despite being crushed by the debris from Sahelanthropus. His parasites would have kept him alive even as maimed as he was, because the parasites kept him alive through being horrifically burned more than once. Maybe Huey didn’t kill him to stop him from being questioned, but Skull Face definitely would have been captured by someone (either the Soviets or Cipher) and Huey’s name would probably be mentioned
I believe it's a bit of both, illustrating a disconnect between Huey and Venom's goals while also robbing the player of that white whale they've been hunting all game, possibly in reference to Moby Dick
You pitied a man that might well have tried to drown a child, sentenced dozens of men to death, stole research, and killed the woman he "loved"? I don't have pity for shit, it just gets flushed down the drain with the rest of it's kind, or buried in the woods.
@@AJGundam I understand that you pity what he became, but I still feel exactly as i felt when i heard he may have tried to drown Emma in mgs4: shit can be polished, but it's still shit in the end.
@@denkerbosu3551 it's because i've only played phantom pain because im a dum dum and also because I'm a dum-dum i actually believed and trusted what Huey was saying while in the phantom pain
I never really paid attention to Hal's hatred for his father when mentioned in MGS2 until Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain came out. And after seeing first hand what a jackass Huey was, it made me respect Otacon even more. Hal atoned for his sins and tried to right his wrongs. Huey would just put the blame on everyone else but himself for his screwups and just to gain sympathy because he's a two bit scientist with no original ideas himself. Plus Snake and Hal's bromance is the best, they are complete opposites, yet theres a overlap between them of not letting their lifes be dicatated by genes or predetermined destiny by the sinsof their fathers.
In a way, Hal sleeping with his stepmom is pretty much karma towards Huey. It's funny how through all horrible things he's done, his son sleeping with his wife is what destroys him
I think it's what Ocelot said in TPP coming to fruition. Being pissed at both himself and his wife, Huey tries to kill himself and Emma Emmerich to get back at his wife and to redeem himself after finally realizing what kinda of monster he was. He couldn't run from himself anymore.
Seriously? From what Hal said after Emma died was that his stepmom seduced him, implying that she forced herself upon him, probably without his consent. And besides, what Julia did was adultery which is basically equally unforgivable to what Huey did to Emma. I know we should be against Huey during his suicide, but should we really side with Julia who slept with her stepson?
Great vid, quick note: He always had hydrophobia, proved in Peace Walker when calling the codec while looking at a river. This was possible foreshadowing at the time to his suicide you mentioned, but after the release of V, also his exile.
The complexity of Huey's lies is truly commendable. It takes quite a lot of investigation to completely know Huey is full of lies. Personally, that scene where he condemns Boss's actions to kill the sick soldiers was enough for me to throw him to the sharks.
that is the longest train of thought to get a name I got my name from a fictional love interest from a real-life movie with a robot that has a similar disability named after real-life fictional ducks from a show in the 80's
So uhh... admittance I've always had a soft spot for the guy. Since my first introduction to the series was Peace Walker I never hated him, just saw him as a pitiful and selfish man who didn't earn the right for me to hate him. Until like, MGSV lmao.
@@legomancb12 yeah i Used to think Huey didn't know about the Inspection of msf being a Setup But after learning that He accepted the Inspection without the consent of big Boss i understood
At first I thought that Huey and Hal “Otacon” were the same people, so I felt betrayed for a bit until realizing that Huey is actually the father of Hal. When I played the mission of rescuing Huey, I thought he was Hal and was confused about why Venom went on to ‘rescue’ him that way (by putting a bag over his head and deactivating his legs while also not treating him as nice). Turned out he was deemed a traitor to DD. I was confused and thought to myself, “Otacon would never do that”. I’m thankful for the comment section for helping me realize that Huey isn’t the Otacon we know and love.
Such a strange concept that the design of a character was based on their son, effectively meaning the son gave birth to his father's design. Mind fuck.
My first Metal Gear game is MGS GZ, then TPP. First time I've encountered Huey I thought he was just eccentric, then the story continued and I realized he's a man who tried to do too much, said too many lies, and blamed everyone but himself for his misfortunes. He was a good villain in TPP, despite him looking like the sanest person on Mother Base.
My first mg game is rising (because memes) and then tpp. At first I trust huey (a bit) but letter on I trust more on miller and ocelot just because I feel more safe with them.
Funny thing is, Ocelot being the expert interrogator would've seen through ALL his lies and crocodile tears and Huey still lied right 'til his exile. Must've been tiring to put up lie after lie, especially when you have someone who's the best at detecting lies doing the asking.
Expert at detecting lies or just expert at making people break? Torture works if you need something specific and can check it right away like computer password. With enough torture everybody always talks.
@@burnttoast.2017 When you torture enough they always talk. Even if they don't know anything they will talk. Smart torturer knows that and maybe uses torture as means of confirming do they really know.
I think what makes Huey even more pathetic is that even Strangelove viewed him as nothing more than a tool, using him to pass on the Boss’s will and memes. She says in her final moments in the AI Pod that she believed that the father of her child wouldn’t matter, and to pour salt on the well-deserved wounds, referred to Hal as being the child of the Boss and herself
can I just take a moment to say how awesome the camera work is in MGSV cutscenes? the slight shakiness, the angles, focusing, and general operation really feels like some guy is documenting the whole thing and sets the game apart well
Huey is this series’s biggest monster, even the other villains were either misguided thinking they were doing good, or used by others with no choice. Huey is a snake in a rats body.
Backstabbing and treacherous, but not by ambition. He was scared of everything which looked mean and made noise. Constantly scared people are unpredictable.
@@vksasdgaming9472 justify the intentional mutation of the parasites using beta rays then. Someone who is scared wouldn't intentionally mutate a highly infectious and deadly disease to sell it to Cipher.
I started with MGSV, having only the most basic understanding of MGS’s story. I know and understand it now, but back then, it was mostly just memes and summaries. So going into it, I thought Huey was going to be like Hal. “Wait, his name is Emmerich? Is that Huey’s dad? Holy crap, that’s so cool! They’re even voiced by the same guy. I’m pretty sure that’s to show how similar they are.” Now, I didn’t know about the events surrounding Huey and the death of Hal. So as I continued playing the game, I was thinking “Well, yeah, he helped with the fall of Mother Base, but he’s Emmerich! He’s not a bad guy!” And then I kept listening to the cassette tapes. “Um...Huey, that’s not a good excuse.” “Wait, why would you do that? And you lied about that other thing?” “Wait, YOU DID WHAT?!” Eventually I just was thinking “What pathetic crap is this coward gonna spout this time?” But there was always this feeling. This feeling of “Was my hate justified?” And when I learned about Hal’s full backstory, I knew it was.
8:47 "But Big Boss was able to defeat ZEKE and launch Pacifica Ocean into the Pacifica _Ocean."_ Okay, that made me laugh. However, that's not technically accurate; MSF's Mother Base was off the east coast of Costa Rica in the Caribbean Sea, not the Pacific Ocean.
I remember first hearing the story and being like "christ!" then I saw huey and was like 'how did he drown himself?" then 5 "ooohhhh" then it all came together
the thing that gets you about Huey is that he looks, sounds and even in some cases acts like Otacon (his son) who is a genuinely good and even heroic guy and a longstanding staple character of the series that the player trusts and likes. Huey, unlike his son, however, is a deeply unsympathetic sociopathic bastard. Kojima definitely did that on purpose, to make the player unconsciously overlay their positive feelings about Hal onto his father, who doesn't deserve them.
One recording I love from MGSV is Ocelot’s interrogation after Eli stole the metal gear, where he mimics the AI from MGS2 (or vice versa): “We’re not smothering the world, you are.” “The real world isn’t making you suffer, it’s the other way around.” Huey is a prime example of what the Ai is talking about, and sadly I think we hate Huey a lot because of the Jungian psychology of the shadow, when we dislike someone a lot or maybe a case they subconsciously were identifying negative traits they share, and the fact is many of us are like this where we don’t take responsibility for our actions. I think Huey’s last recording were he’s calling us all hypocrites but then saying he’s also alone is likely a huge mirror to the player and Diamond Dogs and it’s the first time he admits his faults but pointing out he is just like us wanting to believe in legends like Big Boss, he even says “Snake is like this too isn’t he...”. He even points to DD saying he’s a wolf not a dog, something the player is willing to accept and everyone gets strangely defensive over if you point it out, Hell i felt insulted when he said it I was saying “you crossed the line Huey no one insults DD like that!”. Though I do like the trial outcome as it shows wisdom from Venom that likely even Big Boss wouldn’t show, so far Venom is willing to accept blame for actions despite their justification; killing his MSF soldiers even if they were infected was still murder in his own eyes (eye), he continues to feel guilt for Paz as I believe he thought he should of been able to find the second bomb but even then sees himself as nothing more than causing her unnecessary suffering; I think a subtle moment in all of this was when in the “retcon flashback” we all accepted at first, Big Boss was the one that suspected the second bomb, the medic even in a disillusion doesn’t want to give himself credit for saving her. Venom stabs himself to prove a point to his men when they fight each other and take out knives to potentially kill the other, essentially saying through actions “you take a knife out on another soldier you stab me in my heart.”.
@@arsy9753I think he means in the sense that they're opposites, keep in mind Venom is a combat medic who had his mind raped and is trying to cling to sanity as he rebuilds what he lost, while Big Boss is a megalomaniac who justifies manipulating and abandoning his comrades by saying it's a part of The Boss' dream (it isn't) Tbh I think in a clever way Huey is supposed to represent Big Boss' inability to accept failure or fix his mistakes
Christopher Randolph is such an amazing voice actor! First, he managed to make you love Otacon for the majority of the series... And then, he managed to make you hate Huey for what he did, and his nuanced tone in his voice truly reflected that!
Huey grievances: - Made deals with XOF during the fall of MSF - Put Hal inside Sahelanthropus' cockpit - Trapped Strangelove inside the AI pod - Leaked radiation into the Diamond Dogs quarantine facility - Drowned himself and tried to drown his daughter *- Doesn't believe in Santa Claus*
When a man is raised on a steady diet of denied prospects, legacy, and lies, then that is all that man will be. For it is all he knows and all he can be. Do not pity the fool though. For truth is never far from reach, and always available to anyone suffering under ignorance's twisted visage. You need only grasp the first rung and climb.
Huey being a bastard just helps make hal and snake's relationship so much better me. He may have his father's looks but he has his mother's heart (who he barely knows because *cough* fuck you Huey *cough* )
Huey isna reference to the Kubrick's De Strangelove character. Him being crippled is also an symbol for his (as well as dr strangelove's) impotence as well as his cowardice. He is also the kind of scientist who The Unabomber described. Their main motivation isn't the benefit of other people, but surrogate activity in which their inventoins give them a sense of power and purpose. Huey looks for this and pathologically tells lies and narrate things differently in which he is indeed seen in anyway less of a man.
Dude also clearly had a love for weapons of destruction as well, despite his words, when I first played Peace Walker, during the Pupa battle, I recall him actually getting very excited at how fast it was capable of moving, even complementing himself over it, Huey is the ultimate sociopathic narcissist, but he knows what most would think of "his" creations and hides behind disgust of them, truly the biggest bastard in the series
My first Metal Gear was Peace Walker and back then, when I first met this character, I thought he was a bit weird, I mean, I never thought this would be the result of saving a poor crippled man but... Sometimes I really thought he was hiding something.
Mission 43 pissed me off so badly because it's so obvious that he is trying to guilt Venom for killing the men to push the fact from his mind that his device allowed the parasite to mutate. There's something so irredeemably sickening about using a man's love for his comrades as ammunition to avoid your own faults.
there's also the fact that Huey wouldn't be able to get his hands on the mutant strain to sell it to Cipher if Snake killed all the hosts of the parasite. He is quite literally gaslighting you so he can make a quick buck.
I love that the most watched part is the beginning, meaning that like me there are many people who keep rewatching this video, for some reason it's addictive
It's actually funny how half of the Metal Gear series is literally Solid Snake and Otacon cleaning their fathers' mess
I'm not sure Big Boss was really a bad guy, he did bad things to stop Zero. And both did what they did to honour the boss
@@eg2070 Yeah, honoring the Boss by grooming war orphans to become soldiers. Get real.
Metal gear solid is pretty much the old addage that the path to hell is paved with good intentions
@@eg2070 Big Boss in Metal Gear 2 literally does a speech confessing that he uses children as war tools with the goal of repeating the "war cycle" that he and Snake are a part of
He was definitively a tragic misguided villain
@@eg2070 "It all began with a bunch of old fools..."
Venom didn't want the ashes of his comrades in the merciless ocean, but forced Huey to the merciless ocean. Ending up in the merciless swimming pool.
Wow :O
Because my men were loyal, he was not
And so his ashes were scattered over the heartless sea.
Yet somehow he ended up making it all the way back to the States. Rats really do swim well
Venom to his men: I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea
Venom to Huey: You took innocent lives, *you ask the sea for mercy*
It makes Hal's and Solid Snake friendship shine so much brighter.
Hal inherited his mother's loyalty.
@@msmaria5039 😭👍
The relationship between Solid and Hal is defiantly a much healthier and redemptive version of the relationship between BB/Venom and Huey
@@msmaria5039 this comment punched me in the gut in the best way. really sucks how hal barely knew his mom but reflects SO MANY of her positive qualities (loyalty, intelligence, bravery) and got nothing but similar looks and shitty luck from his dad 😔he deserves so much better than what he got
@@maldacah But I do think Hal got it better. He has a friend that's extremely loyal to him and who respects him deeply. He has a daughter who really admires him (it was never confirmed but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if Hal adopted her) and if we count Revengance as canon, he has tons of women who wants to date him both for his looks and personality
Whenever I get depressed I think about Huey and my rage fuels me forward
Fuck yea dude 🫡
Maybe this is just me, but for me I get rageful when I think of Skullface
such a lust for revenge.
@@robertmarley9380 WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!
why mgs 4 huey was different is he not the same person
Every bit of love I have for Hal, it is reflected in my hate for Huey.
Exactly
It makes me love Hal more. Masterful really.
Hal is the guy with the otaku line? The one after/before (I don't remember I only just got past it a few months ago) the invisible ninjurai fight in mgs1? (Been playing other games since, had to restart since I moved from epsxe to the retroarch one)
@@theaxolotlgod1204 Yeah, that's Otacon, Huey's son.
He's infinitly better than his father tho
@@Voc_spooksauce Ah okey. Awesome.
Christopher Randolph doesn't get nearly enough credit for voicing a character as likable as Otacon, and as detestable as Huey, while using almost the EXACT SAME VOICE. That is mad talent.
That explains why i confused the two men often before mgsv.
Leave Huey alone
It’s crazy how with almost the exact same voice, he voices a scared yet brave otaku who’s willing to do anything he can to help save the world, and also a snivelling conniving little cowardly brat who would snitch and sell out on his own organs just to survive, while still being a self righteous little prick.
Amazing voice work, nothing short of genius.
That's mostly on the writer honestly
virgin huey vs Chad Hal "Otacon"
Another thing I find funny about Huey: when Strangelove told him she'd give him a chance if he "stood up by himself" she was most definitely talking about his dependace on other people's work, telling him to learn to do his own research and stop using other, better scientists as stepping stones. Huey, of course, being Huey, thought she was taking a jab at his disability. Essentially, he took light-hearted constructive criticism to heart and made it personal. The blueprint of a bastard, he was.
That and he interpreted a turn of phrase literally
standing up by yourself regularly means about will and independence, Strangelove admires strong wills, her crush was The Boss, one of the strongest soldiers in history, and Huey standing up by himself ended wrong because he's corrupted by birth, with a hard life in unsure times like post-war, ideologies too fresh about weapons and no close adults to see as a role model, he's like Yamcha from Dragon Ball after curing himself from his shyness, but a lot worse
Honestly it could also be a reference to the classic film, Doctor Strangelove, in which the German (ex-nazi) scientist who was wheelchair bound the whole movie (unknowingly) manages to stand on his two legs moments before he and everyone else dies in a nuclear strike
He wasn't the blueprint, he was the damn assembly instructions.
1. Take Asshole A.
2. Remove Asshole A's control over his lower spinal column.
3. Put the altered Asshole A into situation B.
4. Add Compatriot C and group D.
5. Let stand for two years.
Luckily he’ll always be remembered as the guy who got cucked to death.
As a person who was confined to a wheelchair for two years, I can tell you that his motivation for evil is directly tied to that. Your butt gets real itchy.
XD
why couldnt he just invent an ass scratcher and put it on his wheelchair
@@BigBossultrastealth In a world where bionic arms exist in the 80's, I suppose there was no reason not to, eh?
So you're telling me that he went evil, because he was booty bothered?
@@heroicbannana8605 hate is such a strong word I disliked this comment but now I'm warming up to it
Never trust a man who doesn't believe in Santa
That laughter at Big Boss was just mocking at that point
A man who drowned in a pool making fun of someone who believes in Santa is ironic
SANTA IS A REAL GERMAN CARDINAL.
It's even more sad when you consider why BB even believed in Santa. When you consider the wording, "He brings me presents. Or well. He used to", it suggests that it stopped happening fairly recently. This would mean that it stopped in around the time of Snake Eater or not long after. This means that The Boss could've very well been bringing Snake presents and now that he killed her and no longer receives presents, Snake thinks that he's on the naughty list forever. This is further backed up by the existence of the Santa camouflage in Snake Eater. Now who could that have belonged to? Santa *Camouflage* . I rest my case, and with it, evidence that Huey is the most despicable character in gaming history.
@@DarkPlaysThings dude, i now want cry knowing that.
Literally the most dislikeable character in video game history.
- He is responsible for the deaths of most of the likeable characters in Peace Walker.
- He destroyed MSF.
- He is a complete coward.
- He constantly pleads ignorance and blames everyone else for his actions.
- He used his own son as a test subject in a potentially deadly experiment and suffocated his mom for trying to protect him.
- He lies about literally everything.
- Kaz's Arm
- When he offed himself, he tried to take his stepdaughter with him because he is just that much of a spiteful, cowardly PoS.
- He made fun of Snake for believing in Santa.
- He stole research and gave the most powerful metal gear ever constructed to a group of incompetent child soldiers.
- He robbed us of our chance to get revenge on Skull Face.
- He forced Venom to kill dozens of his own men just so he could create a WMD to sell to Cipher and in turn mocked Venom for doing so.
Honestly, screw Huey man.
He also mutated the vocal cord parisites as mother base was finally just finding a way to stop it's spread, by adding a certain radiation which led to a huge outbreak on the base. Forcing venom snake to kill eveyone who was infected and then huey had the nerve to try to call out snake on it.
"- He made fun of Snake for believing in Santa."
this seals the deal for me
Ted Faro is also up there for me
No WONDER Julie cheated on him with Hal, she probably wanted a real man who wouldn't bitch and moan about the various 'injustices' done to him.
keep in mind it was MEANT to be that way. he is meant to be hated so it's just great writing tbh
the thing that bothers me the most about huey is that he looks and sounds like otacon which unconciously gave him this base trust from me because my brain said yo this is just otacon who is a good lad. Makes me think they did this on purpose for that reason.
If I remember correctly Huey and Otacon are related, so yeah
I think even Otacon hates him
@@penguinlordalan Huey is otacon’s dad
i played the prequels first so huey made otacon seem like an untrustworthy guy when you first meet him in the first game, another thing huey ruined
Even In Peace walker when Big Boss Rescue Huey and present himself, Huey Said "Snake? Seems Familiar" It was a obvious Nod to Solid Snake and Hal Friendship.... But it was used to the perfect betreyal
Emmerich in MGSV is a rare example where I saw a crippled man thrown down the stairs and enjoyed it.
Which makes me laugh thinking about it now. Having a crippled person aboard Morher Base and not a single wheelchair accessible ramp for any doors
@@heavymetalfishingla and that requires stairs and ladders to get between levels. technically huey's legs work, but his bones are as brittle as God's sympathy for him
@@heavymetalfishingla I think Huey had some sort of mechanism in his wheelchair to allow it to climb stairs without assistance
@@jamfingers55 there were the triple wheels he used in peace walker after the first metal gear boss fight
If I remember right it’s not the first time he’s been tossed down them. In peace walker he’s pushed down them and you feel a little bad. Then it happens again and it’s everyone feeling good
“Kaz, I’m feeling deja vú here” is a hilarious line shows what a missed opportunity it was to have Kiefer almost exclusively in tapes.
Seriously, I thought it was hilarious! Man, in context Kefir is a pretty good Big Boss.
@@mileator Kiefer feels more serious which fits venom and MGS V as it has a serious Story
But i Love David hayter to death
Kiefer is venom, that's why they don't sound alike
"but the first mission has both with..."
shhhh, head-cannon ;)
@@HopeyDiamond Ishmael was one of many hallucinations inside Venom's head
@@HopeyDiamond Ishmael was NOT Big Boss. He was a manifestation of Venom's original personality, helping his "new self" get on his feet.
But what about Ground Zeroes? And Mission 46? Remember that EVERYTHING we see as the player is through the distorted view of Venom's mind. A cocktail of incomplete brainwashing, hallucinations, brain damage, and trauma created a twisted version of events. Much of what we're seeing isn't real at all.
Ah, Huey Emmerich. The guy who ran around with only a single reverse Uno card to play, never realizing that everyone else was playing poker.
"Ran" is a strong word.
@@jeremiahc6358 HAHAHAHAHA
@@jeremiahc6358 crawled?
@@sirsponge9633 Slithered. Like a slug
@@ALJ9000 Hey, slugs are way more honorable and likeable than Huey.
You could already see the seeds of Huey's shitiness in Peace Walker. This is a man who complains about having to build nuclear death robots for Hot Coldman but then immediately turns around and starts building them for Big Boss.
He wanted deterrence
Big Boss is a chad.
He's a toadie.
@@DragoonCenten Big Boss was initially against the nuke addition, he was fine with the Metal Gear as Zeke is pretty awesome. Who else sides Kaz convinced him.
And it culminates with his final rant as he drifts on his raft into exile: "SNAKE! You should be on this boat! There'd have been no inspection if it weren't for your precious nuke!"
That line was a masterpiece of delusional self-victimization: the nuke was always Huey's idea, as was the inspection. The lies gave him a false sense of control, but in the end they were no different from his bionic legs, which only hid the broken man who had no real foundation to stand on.
Snake earnestly believing in Santa is such a cute detail.
santa clause is real. the real issue is how fucking ignorant people are to historic figures and people. saint nick was a real man who really gifted good children presents. he spread love and joy and asked nothing in return. the story is exagerrated to fit new nations beyond the origin. to say santa isn't real, is not only ignorant, but it's insulting to the memory that brought about such a joyous soul.
the difference is the magic and illusion of a flying sleigh with reigndeer along with krampus and elves. these are extra details that every story from history is endowed with. from tales of magicians turning water into wine or walking on water, to conjuring tricks as well as manipulations of matter which in fact, are just tricks which, when described as they are seen, sound mystical and beyond comprehension.
don't insult the mans memory just because you heard an exagerrated version. where's your fucking respect!
i fucking hate this planet and everybody on it. you're all fucking insultingly thick.
@@swanclipper there's a very special amount of irony in this comment, and I hope someday you see it
@@swanclipper I really hope this comment is ironic
@@swanclipper This is Big Boss's alt account.
@@swanclipper dude calm.the fuck down Imagine getting this triggered on a metal gear video
The use of Christopher Randolph’s voice to give a veteran metal gear player a base amount of trust towards Huey was actually kinda brilliant, and it subverts the expectations established by Hal’s and David’s friendship later on in the series.
He fooled me that' for sure
Yup i fell for it i thought "Sweet big boss has an otacon" didn't occur to me this is the same cuck who killed himself trying to take his step daughter with him
I resent the idea that this game wasn't good or as good as the others. That's just one example of how I feel like it makes the saga as a whole even better and more complete and full as a story and makes the other games even more fun to play and view under
19:40 If Big Boss says Santa is real, Santa is fucking real
Who says big boss is wrong, if he says it, it’s real
Isnt that the first clue that falseness is good to hold is that we hold onto a false belief about huey. We like to hate huey and for me what I saw is that the audiance was a integral part of that with a sense of groupthink. We have a comedic and conceptual sense of huey but facts didnt show the rest only what was shown and said. And when he died by committing suicide and saying what gose around comes around. What mentality that is, in the real world actually exists, and if that is common good, it sounds half sword insidious while with a straight face. I thought kojima was giving a social experiment tricky us, and it did well.
Okay, here's the plan. Develop a new type of aircraft based on Santa's sleigh. Additionally, develop a suit that makes someone look quite a ways fatter than they actually are. Next, acrue funding for presents for every member of the Diamond Dogs (also, research the wants of every member of Diamond Dogs beyond being with Big Boss which would be granted anyway as an extra thing). Finally, on Christmas Eve night, activate the 'Sleigh' and fly it over Mother Base while blasting "Ho Ho Ho!" from the speakers. If Big Boss sees it, he'll be none the wiser and will even be more excited. Finally, on Christmas morning, bring everyone to the Command Platform and give out the presents. Big Boss will be handed his present by none other than 'Santa'.
@@peepeepoopoo7724 I mean in a world where people can prolong their lives and gain super human abilities thanks to parasite and nanomachines, he very well can be real in the metal gear universe
@@curtailedbike4123 you're saying that like he isn't already real
"Big Boss was able to defeat Zeke and launch Pacifica Ocean into the Pacific Ocean"
God Fucking Dammit Kojima
Wasnt it Atlantic ocean, though?
@@paulwalker5225 It was. The original Mother Base was off the eastern coast of Central America. (i.e. the Atlantic Ocean.)
@@Darkoriax17 Well Carribean sea.
Kojima why, WHY KOJIMA!!!!!!
I still think that Venom's punishment for Huey was perfect. He sent Huey into the heartless sea, unlike his dead comrades, who he ordered to have diamonds made from their ashes instead of having been thrown into the sea.
plus, if he had his legs, he could at least use them to help paddle his raft or w/e, but without the use of his legs he could barely shift around to get his food and water, he is a very lucky man that he survived.
@@heliveruscalion9124 i have a headcanon that once Huey made it to land and got back to the states, he immediately snitched on Diamond Dogs and let the world know they were a bunch of whackjobs.
Is that where all those diamonds I nicked off mother base came from!?
@@Palemagpie No, if you interrogate one of the soldiers he tells you he hid some diamonds in the base
@@Palemagpieno, those are rough diamonds, naturally made. The diamonds made from the ashes can be found on the ”diamond dogs” shoulder patch on all mother base soldiers
"You cant run from yourself forever" - Revolver Ocelot, beacon of strong self identity
And a manipulator
at his core, Ocelot did it all for the man he loved, Big Boss. Talk about the truest bro of the series.
- Revolver "hypnotize yourself into believing you are someone else" Ocelot
@@Caryll_byrgenwerth-scholar
-Revolver "I took advantage of the Patriot A.I's routine way of thinking so that JD and the rest can be destroyed." Ocelot.
To be fair, his true personality still caught up with him in the end.
Here are the rules. Don't matter how old they are, if they believe Santa is real, you nod your head and smile. If they ask if Santa is real, you lay out the truth for them.
Amen
Facts
St Nicholas of Myra is more real than anyone I know.
That's when the NORAD hotline comes into this, which is a fairly straightforward explanation.
yeah, lay out the truth like how it's asinine to say "twenty oh one" for one of the greatest movies ever made like you're an alien who has never heard of, seen or spoken about before this very moment at 2:13
It's truly amazing how Hal and Huey are polar opposites.
Hal is a scientist who wants to do good for the world, and believed REX was gonna be something to make the world a better place. When he learns the truth, he's horrified about the monster he created and blames himself. Despite not being a fighter, he does everything he can to help Snake on his mission to destroy it. He even stays behind on Shadow Moses to cover his and Meryl's escape route, despite knowing the base will be bombed and he'll die in it. He loses a lot of people he loves and cares about, but still finds strength to move on and keep fighting. He goes from being a secluded man, to being a hero of the world who brings an end to the Patriots' reign.
Huey is a scientist who doesn't care at all about anything, or anyone, but himself. He builds WMDs with no regards at all for what it'll do to the world and kill so many. He even tried to create a weapon on MSF's Mother Base to sell to Cipher. He doesn't care about his loved ones at all. He didn't truly love Strangelove. He put his own child at risk by trying to make him a test pilot. He tried to kill Emma when he committed suicide. He allowed the near death of MSF and got so many people killed because of his actions. Instead of facing his consequences, he arrogantly believed it wasn't his fault. He blamed everyone else for his own actions, and believes himself to somehow be the "hero". He goes from a man who seems to want to help Big Boss, to being a remorseless monster who sees others as disposable and doesn't care what terrible weapons he makes so long as he gets some sort of profit.
Usually in the MGS series, people think the real bad guy was Liquid or Zero. However, I feel the real villain in the entire MGS series is Huey. Liquid at least was born into a life he didn't want and wasn't even supposed to exist. Zero at least had good intentions and wanted to make amends with Big Boss. Huey is a man though that has nothing redeeming himself at all. He's a monster who cares only about himself, and he did nothing but cause death and destruction everywhere he went and blamed everyone else around him. He's the real villain of MGS.
Allow me to add more fuel to the fire. Apparently Strangelove was the one who was coding the Patriots AI`s and her death led to the system being poorly designed including a lack of empathy and given broad instructions. Sooo...Huey is the cause of the rouge AI`s. :V
@@bjosto1251 When you guys put it that way, that would mean that literally almost every bad thing that happens in the MGS universe during and after Peace Walker can be directly traced back to being Huey's fault in some form.
I say "almost" because Operation Snake Eater and the war between Zero and BB definitely caused their own problems for the global state of affairs, but it can be arguably said that those problems wouldn't have been anywhere *near* as bad were it not for Huey's later involvement. The only good thing to come from Huey was Hal, and in the long run that basically just amounted to Otacon cleaning up his father's mess (possibly even his whole family's mess, given his grandfather's presence on the Manhattan Project).
Another thing no one seems to talk about is how differently they handled killing an enemy. Otacon hesitated and ultimately missed his shot at getting revenge for Emma when Naomi told him to peg Vamp with the syringe, despite being the one person in the room who'd be justified in killing Vamp. Skullface never did jack shit to Huey besides pushing him down some stairs, and Huey williingly helped the bastard, but Huey shot him anyways and cheered for a revenge that wasn't even his own.
Hal truly is a real human being, and a hero.
@@MaskedSongbird things beforehand can be traced back to Volgin, another irredeemable piece of shit who's only influence is making things worse
Boss: So Huey why’d you put Nukes on Zeke
Huey: no reason
Huey in TPP: Boss if it weren’t for you and your damn nukes none of this would’ve happened!
Boss: 😑
Ocelot: "you want me to get a flamethrower Boss"
Boss: "Get two, no need to hog all the fun for myself. Isn't that right Kaz?"
Kaz: OH! OH! Can I get a flamethrower arm!?
@@MidnightKingL Damn that would be a cool arm. Color it a bright and dark red with black accents and dub it "The Sinister Fire"
@@Doodle-MeWasHere
So fun little detail
An actual fire bionic arm was planned for TPP, but the idea scrapped along with a parasite arm and some other models
13:16
I love how casually Venom, the usually silent protagonist, pulls Kaz aside to tell him this
Basically if he had been written by Araki he would have built all of his machines out of the bones of slaughtered dogs.
Classic Araki.
Soooo Araki self insert?
@@onyourleft9273 If he licked a spider or two, then yes
@@onyourleft9273 Araki does that to show the evil people. He loves dogs
Poor DD
I love Doktor because Doktor is basically who Huey would have been if he weren't a sociopath. Doktor felt sorry for what he did building weapons as a scientist under the Soviet Union, however he didn't have a choice unlike Huey, so when he came to the west, he IMMEDIATELY SHOWED THAT HE COULD USE HIS EXPERTISE FOR GOOD. Doktor exists in the world of Metal Gear to do two things: Help disabled people with his cyborg technology, and help Raiden destroy the shitty UG's that Desperado and other PMCs built through reverse engineering his work. By the end of Rising, he's used this to SAVE potentially THOUSANDS of orphans' lives during the World Martial Incident alone, and we don't know what he did between the fall of the berlin wall and the beginning of Rising.
It's kinda cool cus it felt like Raiden was gonna be kind of powerless when it came to salvaging the lives of the kids/brains he saved during the WM incident. Like he'd saved them from the worst but they were basically screwed now anyway and would be lucky to have any semblance of a life. Then Doktor just causally lays out his entire plan (which has a nice amount of detail and makes a decent amount of sense) and is like "I got yo back homie!".
Dude's a great example of the 'science hero' trope and feels useful and powerful in his own way despite having nothing resembling combat ability or ruthlessness.
Huey just makes you go: "Imagine all the good you could have done if you weren't this much of a sad, spiteful, remorseless, utter bastard."
Doktor turn off my huey inhibitor
AHHHHHHGGGG
Doktor, turn off my BASED inhibitors.
@@klickonthat5244 "But you might post cringe!"
"DO IT!!!"
"Alright... 🥺"
@@ellagage1256 "I WAS JOKING WHY DID YOU DO IT"
Huey is the worst kindof coward, the one who even fools himself into thinking hes innocent.
I have encountered such people & must strongly agree. Few things are as infuriating.
Communists, socialists, and fascists all do this.
They accuse their enemies of their own crimes and claim the moral high ground.
Their doublethink sickens me.
@@combativeThinker wow, said like someone who clearly knows nothing about communism or socialism. Probably not much about fascism either but at least you're right there
@@fangsabre Condescension will not win friends. Now I know a good bit of history. That Merrill fellow is right that it's a common tactic used by those who follow both communism & fascism. As for socialist? Well historically both communist and fascist have claimed the title "socialist". Even the books written by members of the "Nazi party" referred to themselves as socialist. Many powerful people today prefer to be called socialist, even if they are communist in practice. I do not know if many people know what the word means these days. So many people just use it to label themselves since both words "communist" & "fascist" are currently social taboos in the western world.
@@fangsabre My guy Communism and Socialism have killed MORE civilians than Fascism. Hitler's camps were child's play compared to Stalin and Mao. And yes they did ethnic cleansings of the Jews just like Hitler but we don't get taught that in school. China to this day is committing genocide. You are ignorant of history.
Huey: *Shoots a man sitting on a chair eight times. Reloads the gun. Continues to shoot them until the gun runs out of ammo.*
*Looks towards the Camera*
Huey: "Why did Big Boss murder that man?"
Rolling 😐
cmon guys he didn't do it, it was the Diamond Dogs and that menace Venom Snake
He is basically MG's JJJ
He's innocent in all of this!
IS HE THE ONLY SANE ONE ON MB?!
@@Voc_spooksauce I don't want world peace or the end of the war for profit machine
I want pictures of BIG BOSS
SNAKE, YOU SHOULD BE ON THAT BOAT!
@@Voc_spooksauce Dude, JJJ has higher ethical standards than Huey, and JJJ is a journalist.
Giving Huey the same face and voice as Otacon, a character fans have come to love and trust, was a brilliant move on Kojima's part.
sometimes i think about the post mgsv concept art of huey and hal and even as a young child, hal just looks so broken. especially compared to how bright he was with strangelove. and huey... huey did that to him. there is no end to my rage toward this man.
I'm just happy Hal turned into Ottacon and not Huey 2.0
Here's a question: Who's the biggest bastard? The dude who makes the weapons? Or the dude who makes the weapons necessary?
Trick question, Huey does both.
The man who makes the weapons and blames others for the blood on his hands
There were like 2 or 3 scenarios here were Huey actively offered and pursued making these weapons and added nukes to them and was in different when questioned. He made hinself both.
They can both be bastards, there's room for that.
Those who build death but are too afraid to use or face it in person, are the biggest bastards. I.e. politicians.
The lack of care I had for Huey when he was begging to keep his legs was near psychopathic.
but justified
Ah yes, the “Romantic” story between Huey and Strangelove.
I miss the super best friends
Such a strange love they had
@@theeloquentbrigand2232 is there a specific episode you're thinking of?
@@PainCausingSamurai fucking everything man
Same
Ocelot's mother pretended not to know him to protect Ocelot. Huey pretended not to know his son to save his own life, despite using him for dangerous experiments.
I'm glad Ocelot got a chance to torture him.
It's too bad he never put the metallic archea on his stupid leg nodes
What? Ocelot's mother was The Boss and she never met Huey. I think those first two uses of 'Ocelot' you wrote you actually meant Otacon.
@@jacobclark6002 I would suggest you read that sentence one more time.
@@XxDigitalDaftPunkxX Oh lol my b
that leg scene is legitimately painful to watch tbh.
Oh god, that birthday scene...
It's from a youtuber called Lakitoulle, he's basically a MGSV funny modder
"YOU SHOULD BE ON THIS CAKE SNAKE" is very huey
SNEK
@@ZZ3_43 Huey if he was a good person:
What I expected to learn: The true depths of a despicable man's betrayals and moral failures.
What I actually learned: Snake believes in Santa Claus.
Big Boss also believes in vampires and has nightmares about them.
@@ShaoShaoMienshaoTo be fair. they may as well be real in the Metal Gear universe
@@ShaoShaoMienshaoI know it's a year late, but to be fair vampires kinda exist in universe.
To be fair, Snake is more concerned with being the best soldier than to know the truth about Santa Claus
@@RivLabs Vamp
It was eerie hearing otacons voice lie to me. Considering how he's more trustworthy than even any snake in the series.
The fact that such a genuine hero like Hal came from Huey never ceases to surprise me.
All credit to strangelove
just goes to show it's the memes, not the genes
I am convinced that is the way Christopher Randolph actually sounds when he cries.
Idk why but this made me think that im going to be sad when Christopher Randolph passes away, or any MGS voice actor for that matter.
Huey is like Rusty Venture without the charm
And that is fucking saying something
Ay venture brothers fan.
Who?
And at least Rusty has the capacity to stop and say "Wait, am I the problem?", if only on occasion.
@@outsideofadream not to mention I think Brock keeps him somewhat in line, I’m not very sure tbh
@@cosmicneko7225 You're right. Not in the original pilot episode, but later on as the seasons go. Brock becomes attached to the boys and does keep Rusty in line every now and again.
“I’m innocent I tell ya?! Why won’t you believe me?”
Me hearing that actual quote: *Shut up Huey*
Joe Pesci: “Shut up, kid!”
Do you think we got it wrong? I think the words that are said are only heard as noise, and let's admit we see it as comdey
"It seems like everyone hates Emmerich; Including God, who designed his legs."
Jim Carrey the Mask: I always wanted to shove a crippled man down the stairs.
The way we know Huey kills himself makes me feel robbed, like he never got what he deserved.
He died in a pathetic display of impotent rage. I'd say that fits him rather well.
@@loserinasuit7880 and he got ultra cucked too so I'd say that's an extra 10 points
He also tried to commit MURDER on top of that suicide (Drown himself AND Emma), thankfully she survived but was horrifically traumatised and we got that particular part of the fucking escort mission in MGS2.
@@loserinasuit7880 I get that, I think it's more that I'm mad that after all he did, he never pays for his crimes. We, "the player" never get retribution against him for his actions.
@@dantevitale5714 It's infuriating but ultimately he's always been a weasel so him escaping the player is expected.
Huey didn’t kill Skullface to stop him from being interrogated. They never were going to interrogate him. They were going to leave him to die painfully in the name of revenge, Huey killing Skullface wasn’t to rob the player of getting to kill him, it was to show how his motives were separate from everyone else’s, showing how he never was truly working with Venom, he was working against him.
Skull Face likely would not have actually died there despite being crushed by the debris from Sahelanthropus. His parasites would have kept him alive even as maimed as he was, because the parasites kept him alive through being horrifically burned more than once. Maybe Huey didn’t kill him to stop him from being questioned, but Skull Face definitely would have been captured by someone (either the Soviets or Cipher) and Huey’s name would probably be mentioned
There you go
And then he lied saying he never killed anyone before after that
I believe it's a bit of both, illustrating a disconnect between Huey and Venom's goals while also robbing the player of that white whale they've been hunting all game, possibly in reference to Moby Dick
My first playthrough of TPP: "Geez ease up on the poor guy :("
Me replaying TPP after knowing the lore: "YEAH SEND IN OCELOT WITH THE ACID SYRINGE!!"
They did a good job at making him hatable but still made you take pity
You pitied a man that might well have tried to drown a child, sentenced dozens of men to death, stole research, and killed the woman he "loved"? I don't have pity for shit, it just gets flushed down the drain with the rest of it's kind, or buried in the woods.
@@treyatkinson7564 pity as in from the man he became not because they made you sympathize with him.
@@AJGundam I understand that you pity what he became, but I still feel exactly as i felt when i heard he may have tried to drown Emma in mgs4: shit can be polished, but it's still shit in the end.
@@treyatkinson7564 I sure pitied him in Peace Walker. However, by the time of MGS V Ground Zeroes, I saw through his bs.
You don’t pity him, you pity the people around him that has to deal with his BS
you know i din't understand why everyone hated huey,but this video with all the details gave me a much clearer picture
Its downright stated in one of MGS V's few cutscenes though...
@@denkerbosu3551 it's because i've only played phantom pain because im a dum dum
and also because I'm a dum-dum i actually believed and trusted what Huey was saying while in the phantom pain
I hated his ass during The Phantom Pain but I had only played The Phantom Pain, so I thought that I was just an asshole for hating him.
@@howdyimhowdy but did you miss how he killed his wife and used his son to test his war machine?
@@proxius3 what I asked the other guy, if you don't mind.
I love the metal gear series meti does.
How dare Huey mock snake for believing in Santa, how fucking dare he
I never really paid attention to Hal's hatred for his father when mentioned in MGS2 until Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes/Phantom Pain came out. And after seeing first hand what a jackass Huey was, it made me respect Otacon even more. Hal atoned for his sins and tried to right his wrongs. Huey would just put the blame on everyone else but himself for his screwups and just to gain sympathy because he's a two bit scientist with no original ideas himself. Plus Snake and Hal's bromance is the best, they are complete opposites, yet theres a overlap between them of not letting their lifes be dicatated by genes or predetermined destiny by the sinsof their fathers.
In a way, Hal sleeping with his stepmom is pretty much karma towards Huey. It's funny how through all horrible things he's done, his son sleeping with his wife is what destroys him
I think it's what Ocelot said in TPP coming to fruition. Being pissed at both himself and his wife, Huey tries to kill himself and Emma Emmerich to get back at his wife and to redeem himself after finally realizing what kinda of monster he was. He couldn't run from himself anymore.
@@burnttoast.2017being cucked was the final draw .
Seriously? From what Hal said after Emma died was that his stepmom seduced him, implying that she forced herself upon him, probably without his consent. And besides, what Julia did was adultery which is basically equally unforgivable to what Huey did to Emma. I know we should be against Huey during his suicide, but should we really side with Julia who slept with her stepson?
Everyone here ignoring Hal was like 13 so his stepmom was molesting a child lmao
I don't like that people say "slept with" Hal was raped
"I didn't even knew he were born"
Also "We called him Hall" Dude can't lie for shit.
to be fair some people name babies before birth
Great vid, quick note: He always had hydrophobia, proved in Peace Walker when calling the codec while looking at a river. This was possible foreshadowing at the time to his suicide you mentioned, but after the release of V, also his exile.
The complexity of Huey's lies is truly commendable. It takes quite a lot of investigation to completely know Huey is full of lies.
Personally, that scene where he condemns Boss's actions to kill the sick soldiers was enough for me to throw him to the sharks.
15:17 funny that even RUclips AI doesn't believe Huey is crying
RUclips (CC): [Laugher]
that is the longest train of thought to get a name
I got my name from a fictional love interest from a real-life movie with a robot that has a similar disability named after real-life fictional ducks from a show in the 80's
I swear; the lengths some people will go to avoid straight-up saying, _"I was named after a fictional duck."_
I didn’t even realize Huey was the reason the parasites mutated. Venom Snake was merciful
I'd love to see a video on Ocelot, i can imagine the title "The Man who Played all Sides, Ocelot"
Always remember, NORAD has a direct hotline with Santa.
This information is on a need-to-know basis.
Oh my god,
EVERYONE IT'S EVERYONE'S FAVORITE CHARACTER!!!!
So uhh... admittance I've always had a soft spot for the guy.
Since my first introduction to the series was Peace Walker I never hated him, just saw him as a pitiful and selfish man who didn't earn the right for me to hate him.
Until like, MGSV lmao.
@@legomancb12 yeah i Used to think Huey didn't know about the Inspection of msf being a Setup
But after learning that He accepted the Inspection without the consent of big Boss i understood
At first I thought that Huey and Hal “Otacon” were the same people, so I felt betrayed for a bit until realizing that Huey is actually the father of Hal. When I played the mission of rescuing Huey, I thought he was Hal and was confused about why Venom went on to ‘rescue’ him that way (by putting a bag over his head and deactivating his legs while also not treating him as nice). Turned out he was deemed a traitor to DD. I was confused and thought to myself, “Otacon would never do that”. I’m thankful for the comment section for helping me realize that Huey isn’t the Otacon we know and love.
Such a strange concept that the design of a character was based on their son, effectively meaning the son gave birth to his father's design. Mind fuck.
My first Metal Gear game is MGS GZ, then TPP. First time I've encountered Huey I thought he was just eccentric, then the story continued and I realized he's a man who tried to do too much, said too many lies, and blamed everyone but himself for his misfortunes. He was a good villain in TPP, despite him looking like the sanest person on Mother Base.
@@KingOfFrye Back then he at ;east was somewhat of a good guy.
My first mg game is rising (because memes) and then tpp. At first I trust huey (a bit) but letter on I trust more on miller and ocelot just because I feel more safe with them.
Funny thing is, Ocelot being the expert interrogator would've seen through ALL his lies and crocodile tears and Huey still lied right 'til his exile.
Must've been tiring to put up lie after lie, especially when you have someone who's the best at detecting lies doing the asking.
Expert at detecting lies or just expert at making people break? Torture works if you need something specific and can check it right away like computer password. With enough torture everybody always talks.
@@vksasdgaming9472Doesn't mean the stuff they talk is accurate information.
@@burnttoast.2017 When you torture enough they always talk. Even if they don't know anything they will talk. Smart torturer knows that and maybe uses torture as means of confirming do they really know.
Hal's life is a case where Huey getting NTR'd is completely acceptable.
I think what makes Huey even more pathetic is that even Strangelove viewed him as nothing more than a tool, using him to pass on the Boss’s will and memes. She says in her final moments in the AI Pod that she believed that the father of her child wouldn’t matter, and to pour salt on the well-deserved wounds, referred to Hal as being the child of the Boss and herself
can I just take a moment to say how awesome the camera work is in MGSV cutscenes? the slight shakiness, the angles, focusing, and general operation really feels like some guy is documenting the whole thing and sets the game apart well
0:47
Damn, didn't expect to see a lakitouille video here...
Of course xD.
The guy behind the T posing Ocelots and D dog guns
He's a genious and most underrated MGSV content creator
Or was atleast idk how he is now
Huey is this series’s biggest monster, even the other villains were either misguided thinking they were doing good, or used by others with no choice. Huey is a snake in a rats body.
I just can't believe that Big Boss, or his body double, just let him go after everything that he's done.
I only played The Phantom Pain, I thought Huey was being treated unfairly, when he was actually just a backstabbing bastard the whole game
Backstabbing and treacherous, but not by ambition. He was scared of everything which looked mean and made noise. Constantly scared people are unpredictable.
@@vksasdgaming9472 justify the intentional mutation of the parasites using beta rays then. Someone who is scared wouldn't intentionally mutate a highly infectious and deadly disease to sell it to Cipher.
Venom won't toss the ashes of his men to the heartless sea. He will for Huey.
Huey: I just want peace
Also huey: lets literally essentially make the current beast titan(s) from aot
Don't bring up AoTs name in a MGS video. It's disrespectful
I started with MGSV, having only the most basic understanding of MGS’s story. I know and understand it now, but back then, it was mostly just memes and summaries. So going into it, I thought Huey was going to be like Hal. “Wait, his name is Emmerich? Is that Huey’s dad? Holy crap, that’s so cool! They’re even voiced by the same guy. I’m pretty sure that’s to show how similar they are.” Now, I didn’t know about the events surrounding Huey and the death of Hal. So as I continued playing the game, I was thinking “Well, yeah, he helped with the fall of Mother Base, but he’s Emmerich! He’s not a bad guy!” And then I kept listening to the cassette tapes. “Um...Huey, that’s not a good excuse.” “Wait, why would you do that? And you lied about that other thing?” “Wait, YOU DID WHAT?!” Eventually I just was thinking “What pathetic crap is this coward gonna spout this time?” But there was always this feeling. This feeling of “Was my hate justified?” And when I learned about Hal’s full backstory, I knew it was.
Jeez I give it to hal for still being able to be such a nice guy and friend since his father was on a whole other level of evil.
the memes
8:47 "But Big Boss was able to defeat ZEKE and launch Pacifica Ocean into the Pacifica _Ocean."_ Okay, that made me laugh. However, that's not technically accurate; MSF's Mother Base was off the east coast of Costa Rica in the Caribbean Sea, not the Pacific Ocean.
Sometimes you need to sacrifice the facts for the sake of a good joke.
I remember first hearing the story and being like "christ!" then I saw huey and was like 'how did he drown himself?" then 5 "ooohhhh" then it all came together
the thing that gets you about Huey is that he looks, sounds and even in some cases acts like Otacon (his son) who is a genuinely good and even heroic guy and a longstanding staple character of the series that the player trusts and likes. Huey, unlike his son, however, is a deeply unsympathetic sociopathic bastard. Kojima definitely did that on purpose, to make the player unconsciously overlay their positive feelings about Hal onto his father, who doesn't deserve them.
One recording I love from MGSV is Ocelot’s interrogation after Eli stole the metal gear, where he mimics the AI from MGS2 (or vice versa):
“We’re not smothering the world, you are.”
“The real world isn’t making you suffer, it’s the other way around.”
Huey is a prime example of what the Ai is talking about, and sadly I think we hate Huey a lot because of the Jungian psychology of the shadow, when we dislike someone a lot or maybe a case they subconsciously were identifying negative traits they share, and the fact is many of us are like this where we don’t take responsibility for our actions. I think Huey’s last recording were he’s calling us all hypocrites but then saying he’s also alone is likely a huge mirror to the player and Diamond Dogs and it’s the first time he admits his faults but pointing out he is just like us wanting to believe in legends like Big Boss, he even says “Snake is like this too isn’t he...”. He even points to DD saying he’s a wolf not a dog, something the player is willing to accept and everyone gets strangely defensive over if you point it out, Hell i felt insulted when he said it I was saying “you crossed the line Huey no one insults DD like that!”.
Though I do like the trial outcome as it shows wisdom from Venom that likely even Big Boss wouldn’t show, so far Venom is willing to accept blame for actions despite their justification; killing his MSF soldiers even if they were infected was still murder in his own eyes (eye), he continues to feel guilt for Paz as I believe he thought he should of been able to find the second bomb but even then sees himself as nothing more than causing her unnecessary suffering; I think a subtle moment in all of this was when in the “retcon flashback” we all accepted at first, Big Boss was the one that suspected the second bomb, the medic even in a disillusion doesn’t want to give himself credit for saving her. Venom stabs himself to prove a point to his men when they fight each other and take out knives to potentially kill the other, essentially saying through actions “you take a knife out on another soldier you stab me in my heart.”.
Venom very quickly became my favorite character in all of mgs. For how little he talks and how lame it was the game not being finished he was awesome.
Great insight, that's probably what they were going for !
Amazing comment from Muzzle. Grats for over 100 likes
Huey is literally anti-otacon. He’s like the venom snake version of Hal.
How on Earth are Venom and Huey similar?
Terrible analogy
@@arsy9753I think he means in the sense that they're opposites, keep in mind Venom is a combat medic who had his mind raped and is trying to cling to sanity as he rebuilds what he lost, while Big Boss is a megalomaniac who justifies manipulating and abandoning his comrades by saying it's a part of The Boss' dream (it isn't)
Tbh I think in a clever way Huey is supposed to represent Big Boss' inability to accept failure or fix his mistakes
Christopher Randolph is such an amazing voice actor!
First, he managed to make you love Otacon for the majority of the series...
And then, he managed to make you hate Huey for what he did, and his nuanced tone in his voice truly reflected that!
Imagine mocking someone who still believes in Santa. Smh, bet Christmases at Outer Heaven go hard.
"sahelantropus was his most desructive machine" that thing took me under 20 seconds to destroy
Huey grievances:
- Made deals with XOF during the fall of MSF
- Put Hal inside Sahelanthropus' cockpit
- Trapped Strangelove inside the AI pod
- Leaked radiation into the Diamond Dogs quarantine facility
- Drowned himself and tried to drown his daughter
*- Doesn't believe in Santa Claus*
When a man is raised on a steady diet of denied prospects, legacy, and lies, then that is all that man will be. For it is all he knows and all he can be.
Do not pity the fool though. For truth is never far from reach, and always available to anyone suffering under ignorance's twisted visage. You need only grasp the first rung and climb.
climb?... _what a thrill..._
Huey being a bastard just helps make hal and snake's relationship so much better me. He may have his father's looks but he has his mother's heart (who he barely knows because *cough* fuck you Huey *cough* )
Huey isna reference to the Kubrick's De Strangelove character. Him being crippled is also an symbol for his (as well as dr strangelove's) impotence as well as his cowardice. He is also the kind of scientist who The Unabomber described. Their main motivation isn't the benefit of other people, but surrogate activity in which their inventoins give them a sense of power and purpose. Huey looks for this and pathologically tells lies and narrate things differently in which he is indeed seen in anyway less of a man.
Dude also clearly had a love for weapons of destruction as well, despite his words, when I first played Peace Walker, during the Pupa battle, I recall him actually getting very excited at how fast it was capable of moving, even complementing himself over it, Huey is the ultimate sociopathic narcissist, but he knows what most would think of "his" creations and hides behind disgust of them, truly the biggest bastard in the series
The fact it took me a solid minute to realise how huey drowns in a pool until I realised “oh right, no legs”
"Building a bastard: Melon" , I hope one of this day Meti will cover him too
Melon?
@@Abdega final villain from beastars
Anthony Fantano's not that bad...
The Glory of Erwin Smith is also WAY overdue
This is probably the one character who was itching for a Building a Bastard video
Just reading his name in the thumbnail made me clench my fists in a rush of rage.
Jeez Kiefer Sutherland makes such a good Big Boss voice I could literally listen to him all day
My first Metal Gear was Peace Walker and back then, when I first met this character, I thought he was a bit weird, I mean, I never thought this would be the result of saving a poor crippled man but... Sometimes I really thought he was hiding something.
I think your MGS vids are my favorites
I really like your HxH vids too and I hope you do more in the future
Mission 43 pissed me off so badly because it's so obvious that he is trying to guilt Venom for killing the men to push the fact from his mind that his device allowed the parasite to mutate. There's something so irredeemably sickening about using a man's love for his comrades as ammunition to avoid your own faults.
there's also the fact that Huey wouldn't be able to get his hands on the mutant strain to sell it to Cipher if Snake killed all the hosts of the parasite. He is quite literally gaslighting you so he can make a quick buck.
I think Granin was wrong, the real "link" between infantry and artillery would be power armor, the kind used in the Starship Troopers novel.
I love that the most watched part is the beginning, meaning that like me there are many people who keep rewatching this video, for some reason it's addictive