Because his idea of a good and responsible politician is that of the one who reads from the teleprompter and says all the correct things all the time, while they do the exact opposite of what they claim, while keeping their atrocities hidden, which is something the "good" people/American, that you and this ytber clearly think you are, absolutely love. Nothing says moderation and intelligence like slowly dehumanising your political opponents down to the individual! Yay for democracy!
They have rules about disallowing crippled people from running for President and Roosevelt still got elected, four times. It's all acceptable if you fooled the people.
MGR was surprisingly right about the memes. The game outlived and surpassed it’s own story. Ahead of its time, truly. Memes aside, Armstrong is just… a very good antagonist.
If I had a nickel for every time a Metal Gear game featuring Raiden as the protagonist contained political and social commentary that only became more and more relevant each passing year, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
I feel like raiden shines because he's much more "vulnerable" as a character at least it feels to me that I can connect more to Raiden and less to solid,naked,venom snake i sadly dont player all games of the series just 2,3,5 and rising
In Senator Armstrong's defense, the nanomachines aren't JUST a cheat. When you realize that Raiden is also augmented, it means nothing anymore. The bigger aspect of the nanomachines are that the senator's enhancements are completely invisible, giving the illusion that he's fighting with his own hands, instead of for something he doesn't understand. This shows very well with his 5 minutes speech: He was being cornered by Raiden and beaten up, but once he began to talk about his own speech, he slowly began to regain strength. Armstrong is not just powered by money... he's powered by convictions. There's a reason why he doesn't use a blade or anything else but relies on brute force, mankind's oldest weapon.
And ain't there nothing more American than that son? While guns are in the DNA since literally landing here the modern American loves their strongmen, the football player, the boxer, the MMA fighter. There's something about seeing someone beat the absolute tar out of another that drives the modern man to cheers. Maybe it's feeling impotent compared to all these heroes we have raised. Can't start a nation like the founding fathers or win the West like mythological cowboys but damn can I punch whatever. Punch it so hard that everyone has to see reason. It's America at it's most cartoonish and controllable. The dreams of politicians and populist is to control that wave and to direct it as they see fit.
@@ravenoferin500 Not just American, pop... universal it is. As much as fists were outdone by bullets, there is always that masculine pride in being able to punch somebody so hard they start to see stars. There's a reason why Popeye decides to throw haymakers instead of unloading a gatling magazine on Bluto. There's a reason why boxers wear gloves and not shotguns. The naked body is a weapon that's universal to mankind even back in the days where they were physically closer to monkeys. Even with nothing but underwears equipped, you can still ball up your fist and punch. Tie your fists and you can still kick somebody. Tie your legs and you can still headbutt somebody. No matter how many fancy stuff you use to fight... your body is always ready for an ol' fashioned beatup.
It's not necessarily political conviction or anything in that matter. It's the aspect of realizing that in this day and age. It's either you push your morals on to someone else. Or they push theirs on to you. It's been that way for ages. It's just that we keep forgett, and we let the fantasy of new ages, clouds, ower judgments of what we still do. Or what we should do.
The whole bit where Armstrong is so happy that Raiden caves in only to be betrayed three seconds later after a almost vulnerable handshake and hug, you can’t help but briefly feel sorry for him, he is THAT charismatic. As batshit insane as he was, he was still charismatic as hell
Batshit insane, and in any other time wouldn't be even given a time of day... but if he actually existed, he'd get votes. He'd be quite bipartisan, and maybe he could actually achieve the goal he wanted if he doesn't drive the country into the ground.
Once in high school, in history, we were all told to make our own political campaign for president. A lot of people worked in groups, but i worked alone because i didnt wanna risk my idea being overrulee. My idea was to copy and paste armstrongs ideology. I had a speech and some advertisements, and i got first place. The american people love this guy
Holy shit i just realized. Armstrong tells jack to "fight for something you believe in" and he literally does. Once he has sams sword, jack starts fighting for an ideal hes always believed in but denied: revenge God this game is so fucking GOOD
I am not up to the complete lore of Metal Gear games. Why would Raiden want revenge from Desperado? Because they produce the same kinds of child soldiers like how he was once?
@ruzgar1372 revenge specifically might not be exactly correct, but Raiden has multiple reasons to hate desperado. Child soldiers, them starting wars, death of the president and his injuries from the beginning. If you wanted to stretch you could say this was sams revenge too for what Armstrong did to him.
The fact the Armstrong is a "might makes right" villain that *actually believes* might makes right both makes him unique and terrifying because... you can't really argue with him. Try to claim good triumphed over evil? *Nope.* You just beat him at his own game. You followed his rules, and you were just the better player. So many "might makes right" villains crumble at the end, revealing it as just a flimsy argument for them to be in charge. The fact Armstrong at the end goes "Yup, you win. You make the rules now" and follows through on his stated philosophy makes him extremely difficult to beat in a battle of ideals. And in the end... Yeah, he and Raider *aren't* so different. Armstrong is all like "I want a world where the strong take what they want and the weak are extinguished, and I'll kill anyone in my way to do it." Meanwhile Raiden is like "I want a world where the strong protect the weak, where the hungry and poor are fed and taken care of... *and I'll kill anyone in my way to do it."*
I mean, that's because might does make right. That's just how the world works. You can do whatever you want, including good things, if you have enough power to do so. And if you don't, your ideals are irrelevant, because you'll be forced to do what someone else wants. Any law works only as long as it's enforced, after all.
@@ForOne814the concept of “right” is about what should happen not about what does happen. Either way people often choose to construct institutions around their moral/ethical beliefs.
@@kylehankins5988 depends on the definition. Stuff like "human rights" is absolutely more of a guiding principle and not an actual enforceable thing. They are about what should be done, and rarely things that are being done even remotely follow those notions. To the point that I honestly don't care about them, those are just buzzwords to me. But property rights, labor rights, gun rights? Those are both docrtinal and actual enforceable rights. They are both about what should happen and what is happening. Those are actually important. My actual point is, while you can disagree with the principle, you can't change it. And because you can't change it, you should follow if, if you wish to achieve desirable results. Whatever those results are is irrelevant.
"Raiden destroys the death murder robot, Then, armstrong marches out and beats the crap out of raiden with his bare fists" is a sentence that could ONLY come from the Metal Gear Franchise.
I always thought that when Armstrong says "weak" he doesn't actually mean the powerless, the disadvantaged in society, but rather the "morally weak", people without conviction, without willpower, the kind of people that drifts along the current of life, those who let themselves be easily influenced. And by contrast, the "strong" are the people who have the balls to stand up for what they believe in, those who work hard to accomplish their dreams. Wich i think fits perfectly with the American myth, Armstrong wants America to go back to the time of the frontier, a society of self made men. And Raiden is the perfect example of Armstrong's ideal, he was a child soldier and managed to survive, he was a tool of the Patriots and managed to break free from their control.
You explained this perfectly. America has deep roots in the values of “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps”. I don’t really know how to articulate this right now but conviction and the desire to be something more permeate American culture, and that is what Armstrong wants for all of the country.
This is what Armstrong's first theme, "Collective Consciousness" criticizes; those souls who didn't have the confidence to establish themselves in society and better themselves rather giving in to their existence as one person in a land of many, along with the upper class that manipulates them into carrying out their will for them.
To be honest, he’s almost like Thanos in a way. He knows exactly what the problem is, but his solution to the problem is the most horrible, and insane solution anyone can think of.
No he fucking isn't. Thanos was a guy trying to wipe out half the universe for a booty call and the mcu one is a pseudophilosophic dumb ass Watch Panther as Star Lord. He couldve used the Embers to fix everything but then again the mcu is plagued with shitty writing and retconned lore
@@sebastianfilip6459Armstrong was the eren before eren then lol. Armstrong solution to freedom is cull the weak, and eren takes it a step further and decided that the solution to freedom is kill literally everyone else lmao.
@@vudangtung5638 Armstrong strongly believed on his own ideals, while Eren ended up being a pathetic cuck who didn't even knew what he was doing. I 100% blame twitter, zoomers and the editor for messing up Isayama's work, assuming he's not a hack.
So, a Teddy Roosevelt. Fun fact, Teddy wanted to fight in WWI, but the army denied his attempt because they were worried about what an ex-president being killed in battle would do to national morale.
@@justinweber4977 Also King George VI and even Winston Churchill wanted to enter into direct military in WW2 as they both once serving in army before but in the end they decide not to, not only they bit too old but also they worry how would Uk react if they lose King and Prime Minster altogether in war
There's a nice detail about Armstrong and Raiden's fight in the cutscene. Raiden manages to briefly get the upper hand while tearing apart Armstrong's supposed reason for his plot. Then when Armstrong finally admits what his real goals are, he gets back to thrashing Raiden easily. In other words, Armstrong is at his most powerful when he is honest about who and what he truly believes.
@@user-uq9se1nx9qOh, definitely. That’d also link back into his tool of justice thing and the Ripper dilemma he had. Struggling against Armstrong wasn’t necessarily because Raiden lacked power, but because he went in trying to slice through Armstrong apart like he was just some purely evil villain. Once Raiden realized the truth of Armstrong and why they really had to be enemies, *that* was when he could finally start the real fight.
Armstrong's reliance on nanomachines for his physical strength is perfectly in line with his worldview. Being able to lead people and convince them to do what you want _is_ a strength.
yeah, even if a person isn't physically strong there's still other strengths they can use to get what they want, whether it be intelligence or charisma or willpower or whatever else. Physical strength isn't the only way to get what you want and Armstrong seems to acknowledge this fully
I look it more as, if you aren’t strong, then get stronger. He acknowldge that Raiden was weak at one point and grew to become stronger. So it is not the power you are born into, but power that you have. Nanomachine are just one way to obtain power, and it is foolish not to use it. I feel it is wrong for Brett to call him hypocritical for this. It is totally in line of his philosophy.
@@Bluedragon-iz3oo It is hypocritical as that nanomachine tech (along with the shitton of stuff he bought and/or hired) is clearly not a product of sheer willpower, but a fuckton of employees and the finance to fund and maintain everything. Which means financial and social prowess (as Armstrong could not have had gain access to clearly unusual technology were he to not have statuses). Which means tangible, quantified strength.
Every single enemy in MGR used augments, Armstrong using them is not cheating. It literally serves as an explanation as to why he isn't destroyed by his own men or Raiden.
I think what brett is referring to is while Armstrong states he desires individual strength he is infact relying on the collective support of those who made the nanomachines
@@meepfanmeepster8620no, he's using his own resources to buy those things. His world view is intact, even if this brainlet video essayist does not get it. That's like saying someone in the wild west with a similar world view was cheating by using a 6 shooter instead of his fists. It's idiotic.
@@maniacone4499 “Samuel Rodrigues, also known as Jetstream Sam and Minuano (ミヌアノ, Minuano?), was a cyborg mercenary involved with the Desperado PMC group who fought against Raiden during the events of 2018. “ “Sam did not have many cybernetic enhancements, as Raiden discovered upon killing him, having maintained most of his original body. Instead, he was equipped with a powered exoskeleton (serial number 977-AZQEE) that enhanced his strength, durability, speed and agility to incredible superhuman levels, as a means of matching up to other cyborgs. Sam's only cybernetic replacement was his right arm, although he displayed great skill in the use of his Murasama sword prior to this.”
I think Armstrong failing to see the flaw in his logic gave him a crucial weakness in his fight with Raiden. When Blade Wolf showed up with Sam’s Murasama, he doesn’t believe Wolf would be willing to sacrifice himself to let Raiden kill him. He tries to intimidate him. If he helps Raiden, he’s dooming himself. Armstrong believes that if you want a job done right, you need to have the strength to do it yourself. He doesn’t believe in self-sacrifice to further a cause. So when Wolf challenges this line of thinking with his own actions, Armstrong’s completely blindsided. He goes for Wolf instead of trying to maybe catch the Murasama or something. He only sees Wolf as another one of the nonsense-spouting helpless nobodies he’s purging.
If I remember right, Wolf said something to the effect of "Yes, I am programmed to value my own well being first and foremost" or something _and then immediately contradicting what he just said his programming is._
@@StarshadowMelody He showed that he's more than his programming, and more than his selfish nature - which instantly refuted Armstrong's entire worldview. That's powerful stuff.
@@johndoe8655 Armstrong’s a hypocrite, though. He sees the nanomachines as his own power, even though he just bought the enhancements. My point is not that Armstrong doesn’t see the value of collective effort. My point is that he doesn’t understand what Wolf would have to gain from self-sacrifice. Wolf does end up surviving, of course, but I feel like that’s more because Armstrong didn’t get the chance to completely finish him off.
@@StarshadowMelody Wolf doesn’t contradict it, but rather states that he’s moved beyond his programming. He says something like “I can establish my own parameters and directives now, so I’m choosing to prioritize Raiden kicking your ass over my ass remaining intact”
Heh, it's less that Blade Wolf was pointing out a flaw in his logic, and more like Blade Wolf was applying Armstrong's logic to himself. He decides to make his own choices and fight. Armstrong, following the logic, just accepted the challenge and started punching, may the best man/dog/being win.
The first king may very well not have been the strongest warrior in the tribe, but the rather the best at manipulation who convinced the strongest he had ideas so good he should be the one who tells everyone what to do.
That's the same point I have about Armstrong. He doesn't mean it by physical only. He means it mentally as well. With great strength, it's useless without a strong mentality. You'd only have a barbarian if strength is dominant
Yes. Though it's not enough to be smart. He sees people who risk themselves to satisfy their desires as strong. A politician sending soldiers to die for something they don't believe in is the ultimate weakness to him.
Completely lost my mind when I played this a decade ago and he quoted both Martin Luther King Jr and Ronald Reagan in the span of like 3 and a half minutes.
Something that i noticed when Armstrong dies is that he completely covers Raiden's shadow when he falls, reinforcing the fact that Raiden and Armstrong are the same,since Raiden carved his path through sheer determination and strengh and that is exactly what Armstrong was talking about when he was giving his speech about the strong purging the weak. This means that Armstrong was just the shadow of Raiden, they WERE the same.
Even the song during the final boss fight reflects this and the neat part of that particular song is who is singing it? Is it our hero? Or is it the villain? Either way, the two of them came to the same conclusion and yet had massively different paths to reach that conclusion.
@@Lightna I heard that the theme that plays when you fight the MG Excelsius (Collective Consciousness) is Raiden's perspective of Armstrong and his morals before his speech and how he believes Armstrong is just another corrupt ruler, somewhat similar to Big Brother in 1984. The theme after he realises Armstrong has a different philosophy than just "Control the people's thoughts, Control the economy" shows that in a way, Raiden agrees with him, but its too late for talking out of it after Raiden gets Sam's sword, hence the name "It Has To Be This Way", he didn't want to fight Armstrong, but at that point he had to. idk tho, its up for negotiation since there's multiple views on it and that's just my view. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
To this day, my favorite reaction to Armstrong is when Super Best Friends played. When Armstrong said, "I have a dream" Matt and Patt both said, "What?" Then Raiden said it too and they just absolutely burst out laughing. God damn poetry right there.
I love how Armstrong changes his attitude when he thought he got through to raiden. It shows his honesty. He doesn’t want war to have war he admits he wants one last war to end all wars. A man by his word as insane as it is. He sticks by his goal and doesn’t deviate. He wants exactly what he says. So yes he definitely would win if he was real 😂😂😂
Well, most Americans would have the same mindset towards old enemies too, so long as they’re “genuine” or serve our interests. You don’t think the U.S would love to get along with Russia more? The only thing stopping us is a difference in idealogy
@@mote_vengador2832Kinda. Same deal with Europe, there is many cooperation, but the second us isn't on first place...they are on their own. This is a dirty game, and you can prosper in peace only by being the best, one way or another.
I think you missed a great opportunity to talk about how gameplay can show a character's personality Raiden, for example, moves with agility and grace while chopping his enemies to bits, showing his combat experience as well as his ruthlessness. However, Armstrong is different. Armstrong is by far the easiest boss is block/parry in MGRR because all his attacks are so slow and telegraphed, showing just how inexperienced he is. However, he is still dangerous due to his massive health bar, his fire attacks that are hard to avoid, his powerful melee that hit like a truck, his throwing building at you that you have to cut precisely, his self healing that you can interrupt if you're quick. Everything is due to his nanomachines. All this helps show, (remember show, dont tell) you about Armstrong's worst and best traits. He is powerful not because he is hard working or talented but simply because he is rich enough to buy a shortcut. But on the other hand, he fights more honourably than every other boss (except Jetstream Sam) Mistral uses Dwarf Geckos to harass you while you fight. Monsoon uses smoke grenades and uses his unique body to attack from a distance and avoid attacks. While also throwing helicopters, and giant spinning wheels of death. Sundowner uses a helicopter to attack and harass you. He uses explosive shields, and he sends goons and swings massive poles at you when he starts losing. Compared to that, Armstrong may be a privileged, powerful villain but he has ideals and principles, and you can see that in how he fights because, unlike all those bosses he doesn't fight dirty and accepts his loss with dignity I had to rewrite this comment 5 times because RUclips kept crashing.
Um... I'd point out that the dude makes it a point that his training is military and sports. He doesn't have refined swordsmanship like Jetstream Sam or advanced cybernetic bodies like the other Winds. He's slower and clunkier because he's a fleshy human bolstered by Nanomachines (, son). It's not that he's inexperienced, he's just not as refined as Sam or as advanced as people like Monsoon. Not only that, due straight up calls out Raiden's attempt to play him up as some suit only for him to point out that not only did he go to a more 'standard' college, he actually gave up a pro career in football to serve his country. Dude's more of a hard worker than you give him credit for, and does care about America. Too bad he's also ****ing nuts.
Armstrong is a type of villain that I've been craving more of for a long time: A caricature of the negative aspects of American Exceptionalism, but presented in the bombastic and undeniably contagiously fun way that American patriotism tends to present itself with. In the same way Captain America represents the ideals that America strives for, Armstrong represents the ugly realities of America and its culture, but presented in an equally stars-and-stripes-laden package. It's a form of villainy that presents itself with the look and feel of the good guy. It's a very realistic portrayal of how villains can be compelling ideologically and aesthetically, using a real-world template that we're very familiar with. We need more things like this.
Homelander from The Boys hits the same beat. Putting on the mask of this god loving, america first patriot, wearing the flag as a cape. And then you hear him complain about the marketing bs they make him say and realize he doesn't care about anyone but himself and his image in the most cynical ways possible.
Hmm I would as armstrong is right up there with the illusive man from mass effect. Humanity first, make humanity great again. Humanity will lead the other species.
Armstrong directly rejects American Exceptionalism in literally very next cutscene when he talks about how America is rotten to the core & how he hates American pride & everything around it. He's anarchistic to the highest degree.
Love how Armstrong has gone from an over the top cartoony villain when this was first released to now where he’s an over the top cartoony villain that is UNCOMFORTABLY familiar.
Saying Armstrong is a "cheater" for his nanomachines is like saying Raiden is one for his cybernetic enhancements. The strength Armstrong refers to isn't a purely physical one anyways.
Raiden didn't ask to be a cyborg though, to be fair. Considering the lengths Armstrong went to in order to conceal his augmentation, it's safe to say he did.
i'd even go as far as to argue it's perfectly fine under his own ideals, just be strong enough to get the nanites, whether that being to get yourself into the position where you have access to it legally, or just stealing it or what have you, that's perfectly fine in his own ideology, armstrong became a politian through various 'strengths' like charisma, intelligence and through having made connections and the like, that strength gave him access to the nanites.
@@supremcaos Well. He was originally turned into a cyborg when the Patriots abducted him and forced those modifications onto him. So yeah, he didn't ask to be a cyborg. But he did ask to get that upgraded body after Sam nearly killed him. Still agree with your initial point anyway.
My favorite line from Armstrong is after he went on his rant on everything wrong with America, Raiden asks how he got elected, and his response is "Well, I don't write my own speeches." Everything he said is unhinged and highly controversial, and he knows it damn well. It's a line that implies that he know how to work the system in spite of his radical beliefs.
As insane as Armstrong is, his perspective on war is more noble than our current understanding. War is young men dying and old men talking as the quote goes. But in Armstrongs world people will fight on their own terms instead of being shipped off to a country they don’t know to a war they don’t want to fight for reasons they’ll never truly understand. At least if Armstrong’s word existed, if people were going to fight they’d be fighting and dying on their own terms for their own reasons which is arguably better than what we currently have.
Except even that idea is flawed, because the idea of unrestricted power being based on strength ultimately means being unrestricted from just… Forcing people to fight for you. And having people fight for you, would be called war. His ideology would come full circle into the same society he complains about, where the masses (or in this case, the weak) become sheep to the few (or in this case, the strong). The strong would simply reinforce weakness amongst those below them, because why not? Nothing’s stopping them from doing so. So, no, you’d still end up with young men dying and old men talking.
@@ferrik1675 Except he would just point out that if you didn't like that, you should get strong and force everyone to _not_ do that. Strength and might makes right have no implicit bias for any one way of ruling. If the strong choose to rule through example, kindness and loyalty, or if they choose to subjugate and enslave, it makes no difference to Armstrong.
This guy is the reason I love Videogames. By far the best video game villain, Zeus my ass. The most quotable, iconic and fun character out of one of the best game franchises. Metal gear rising is my favorite game and this guy is 90 percent of the reason.
The funny thing is the director told the localization team to embellish Armstrong's politics. In a bizarre twist for English localizations, we have a better version of Armstrong than Japan does.
@@NightCap7 The story of MGR was done in collaboration with Kojipro after the decision was made to shift from a prequel to a sequel of MGS4, Kojima was brought in to consult.
@@PirateKingBoros And Reagan took it from the America First party, a pro-Nazi political group from WW2 who took the phrase from someone else before them. It has a long history as the slogan for American nationalists and antisemitism.
His ideas, on paper, aren’t terrible. While he does take it to the extreme, he wanted a world where the people came before the government. And he works to prove his goals.
You misunderstand. Money is also a form of strength, power. The product of work, influence, skill. He earned his enhancements and did not "cheat" any more than Raiden, who is in a body that is also worth an insane amount of money. Plus, look at him. He's jacked to the point of being peak human. His flesh looks as strong as physically possible. If using nanomachines makes him weak, then relying on a HF blade also makes Raiden weak. Such tools are just necessary to fight in this universe. The greater irony is that a man who espouses radical individualism is powered by billions of cooperating robots.
a lot of people who have never read hubert spencer (or in this case, haven't played the game) assume social darwinism is survival of the physically strongest, ie: muscle and brutality. they are the thickskulled muscle-brains they imagine themselves standing against. survival of the fittest refers to adaptation, fitting in.
The relationship between Raiden and Armstrong, despite having such a short time to develop, is arguibly the highlight of their interaction. Despite seeing the former as a threat to his plans, Armstrong sees Raiden as the perfect example of a "self made man". A child soldier who survived, was trained to be Snake's equal and became a nigh unstoppable cyborg "vigilante" And as far as Armstrong's idea of "strength" its probably not literal strength, but *moral* strength. Someone who is unwilling to compromise his own morals for something as base as greed and where politics doesn't get in the way of good people like Raiden dealing out true justice. Its why he's not too mad at dying once he realises that Raiden's eyes have sort of been opened by his journey throughout the story. Like he said, he left behind a worthy successor.
Already made a joke about this in another video. AND the fact he's also the same guy who voices Celebrimbor in Shadow of Mordor/War! XD Armstrong would respect the HELL out of Kratos, and you know it.
Armstrong is the kind of guy I would go to war for. Not because he's a great politician, but because I know he would be jumping around ripping up tanks and truly helping in the war.
I mean, to be fair, name me ONE politician from the last century that you're truly confident was both morally and mentally upright and had a meaningful impact. The nature of the job itself just attracts the power-hungry, the narcissistic, and the delusional. Y'know, all the people who view themselves as the main characters of real life. So what really makes Armstrong worse than any of them? They're all guilty of similarly twisted aspirations, so why NOT side with the one who genuinely believes in his cause rather than just manipulating everything for his personal benefit and who has the means and competence to succeed in his mission. The bitter truth is that humanity isn't really capable of producing leaders who can be good people while remaining effective in their efforts to bring about change. You often have to fight dirty to accomplish anything, but you probably won't have a very positive impact on the world if you do fight dirty. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Entropy will win out in the long run, anyway, so unless you're comfortable just being passive, neutral doormat, there's not really an objectively better option to get behind than someone like Armstrong. It really just comes down to if your subjective ideals are compatible with his.
I would but YT would censor him. A politician who was put through the grinder of humanity and trashed on his whole life, yet managed to fix everything that plagued his country.@@metanightmare4454
So basically, the only hope for the future is luck that a politician wants what the people want and is hellbent on that front as opposed to human vices?
The reason I know that Armstrong would get votes, is that he's the most popular character in the game. By a huge margin. And even I have gotten into that. And I think what nails is is "I have a dream" which is the best line for his entire characterization. I don't know if this line was developed by the localization team, or if the writer truly did understand this man, somewhere along the line, this man became as American as any American you could find. Even more so. America hates bureaucracy and committees culturally as well. It's fundamentally populist as well desiring things in the hands of people. It's a very VERY deep understanding of how America ticks which plays right into almost every American's worldview. I think however what this analysis misses is how "the weak" fits into Armstrong's worldview. It's not just the physically weak. It's the people who abuse the system and such actions. It's not the child on the side of the road. And to him, that's just an impetous become stronger.
Exactly people miss his point all the time he isn't talking only about the fisicly weak he is talking about useless burocrats that abuse the sistem they have total control. He wants to wipe the slate clean off all the bullshit.
I mean, in all fairness, almost no villain in MGR fights using 'their own strength'. They're cyborgs, their strengths come from their kit and how experienced they are in using them, in addition to certain underhanded tactics. Out of all of them, Armstrong is the most grounded and fair out of all of them. Sure he is roided with nanomachines, but all that's doing is just buffing his physical might and endurance. Everything else is just him pulling on his own 'martial prowess'. I'd say given the worldbuilding and the story, the nanomachines were a great compromise. Armstrong used what was needed, but it isn't like he's able to summon minions, create invulnerable shields, cut anything into ribbons, or be able to split his body and put it back together. He's just all roided up so his bluster can pack some literal punches.
Armstrong literally needs to suck the energy out of the world around him for his nanomachines to work. Unlike every other villain in the game, all his strength has to come from sources outside himself.
@@Urd-Vidan Could be argued, but the electrolytes seem to be mostly used for repair, as Raiden can use blade mode even if he's out of energy. So that's an argument that is tied to player effectiveness. Conversely, Armstrong's fight literally starts with him draining energy out of his giant robot for his powers to even work, and he continually tops himself off during the fight. Without a convenient external power source to drain, Armstrong has no power, much like how his personal business needs the forces of brainwashed kidnapped orphans to drum up business while Armstrong claims to follow an ideology that wants people to 'fight their own battles'.
@@HeavySighSA Tbf, that's part of his powerset. Almost all the bosses in the game have their own "hacks" that give them something over Raiden. Even Raiden is a state of the art cyborg that's continuously evolve in the game by taking his opponent's weapons along the way(Examples like Mistral's arms and Sam's sword). Armstrong's philosophy doesn't only mean physical strength, but also mental strength and willpower to take what you want, with the power to do so. It's overall strength. He's still following his philosophy, even when born with a silver spoon. He took opportunities and put in the work to get to where he is. He used everything he was born with to the maximum. Even in death, he still won with Raiden, the ideal citizen for his "America", who took his ideology.
If Armstrong really were a cheating coward, that would mean he’s afraid of actually losing and dying. He expresses no fear of anything like that. That’s why Sam was working for him. When Raiden literally kills him, he only expresses admiration for him. Armstrong dies only telling Raiden that he hoped to have taught him something through it all. No fear, and only acceptance
Pretty good, but I have some criticism. Armstrong isn't talking about strength of body, but strength of will. He desires a country defined by the Ubermensch. People like Raiden and Armstrong who will fight, suffer, even die for ideals wholly their own. He believes that those with strength of will will naturally stamp out the weak like Khamsin, who fight for empty ideals they don't understand, fight wars they don't care about, cowards who create death and suffering for no purpose and yet beg and plead when given the same treatment. Of course this is still a nonsensical ideal for the same reason that the utopia Andrew Ryan wanted was an impossible ideal: someone has to scrub the toilets. It sounds cool if everyone was their own master off fighting a meaningful battle against ideals they don't believe in, but unless you have "weak" workers without their own 50 page essay on ideals who just kind of work and chill, everything breaks down.
The best part about Armstrong is that: he speaks about freedom like a libertarian, wants total control like a democrat, and is more patriotic to the cause than a republican.
@@anthonynorman7545he’s an extreme libertarian if not a full blown anarchist. That’s basically the polar opposite of Fascism. Sure they have the same strongman idea but in execution they’re polar opposites.
@@william2glaser227"Government is more gooder in real life then Armstrong the bad guy, the news and my favorite entertainers and influencers said so (I actually have no clue what happens in the world but if anyone tells me about the WEF and NWO that's just a conspiracy theory!1!!)"
@@Hariburgeronly not long ago, the coffee giants signed a document that using slave and child labor is bad, what kind of morality are you talking about?
The only antagonist I know well that could possibly rival him is Mephiles from 06, and that's only because he gets so much screentime. He's great, but Armstrong is exceptional
@@thatdoofus4529and this is more or less the only screen time Armstrong really gets until dlc it’s insane how well written he was for essentially an hours worth of game at most
@@boney2982 Alot of their work is peak. Studio Ghibli has a really good game called Ni No Kuni Wrath of the White Witch, I highly recommend. Very good and cute rpg, but not afraid to hit you with a lot of dark narratives
my favorite kind of villian: the kind whose ideology isn't entirely wrong, just taken to an extreme. Individual freedom is important, self-determination is important, but armstrong's dog-eat-dog world would be pretty terrible. chaos and mayhem isn't very epic.
The best part about Armstrong is that: he speaks about freedom like a libertarian, wants total control like a democrat, and is more patriotic to the cause than a republican.
@@geronimo5537 As Brett said, every American can find something agreeable in Armstrong. And unfortunately, it's clear that that is all it takes. ONE agreeable thing and all the rest can go f*ck itself.
Japanese writers often criticize America and its culture in a particular light based on America’s foreign policy, including Japan as an unequal and conditional ally. I think Senator Armstrong sums it up the most blatantly, and this helped me spot the pattern show up more subtly in so many other stories.
Putting aside all the fighting, I feel bad for Armstrong when jack is tricking Armstrong by giving false hope. He Picks jack up, dusts him off, and even gives jack a hug. When jack tricked Armstrong and pushes him aside you can see the pure disappointment in his face, like bro was just looking for a friend 😢.
He was delusional. He thought that his strength up till that point had granted him through self interest and because he deserved to win up till that point through being strong that therefore Jack would agree with him. It was his defeat ideologically before the physical loss he would soon face
@@BallerDickson Easy to be on the same side with strength when one is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and is a Senator. Never be fooled by demagogues.
"Could he get elected?" Frankly, I don't into social media, and I'd vote for him. Purely because of the line "fuck chicken shit bureaucrats." Guy is just so charismatic.
Armstrong only says that his Nanomachines harden with physical trauma. But this doesn't really make him stronger, just more durable. On the contrary. Making your muscles and skin more rigid and resistant by hardening them up would decrease their elasticity, and by extension your physical strength. So not only is Armstrong really that strong on his own - he was fighting with a handicap. Edit: Btw yes please gimme some more Metal Gear content.
He's actually really strong. Raiden can lift thousands of tons of steel or stop a moving ship. And we can see Armstrong stoping and catching Raiden punches or straightup wrestling with him.
I think an essay on Raiden would be interesting too. Cause in the post credits seen, he literally says "I got my own war to fight." Meaning that Armstrong did indeed have an impression on Raiden.
I think that a big part of senator armstrong's character that often goes misses is that he is also a caricature of Japan's own nationalists and warhawks. The kind of people that admire the country'a dominance during wwii and the economic excess of the 80s without knowledge of nor care for the atrocities that took place within those periods.
Nationalism is a meme repeated over and over across the world so yeah parallels can be made. The sweeping under the rug of past tragedies and the heightening of glory.
Hideo Kojima is my favorite game director, his analysis on America and the internet is spot on, but also, his games aren't nihilistic about the problems we face. Like at the end of MGS2, when Raiden gets to choose his new name and life, free of GW's control
Aside from the memes, I always thought Armstrong was an amazing villain! A pure showman who is all about the stuff the worst of us here in the U.S. are fervently obsessed with. He's ahead of his time!
I really like the exposition in 27:30 with Armstrong lying on the ground dying with his body resembling Raiden's shadow (reflecting a version of him that took a darker path with his understanding of strength and morals)
Raiden's Strength also comes from his Cybernetic Body. So I don't see this so much as a hypocrisy on Armstrong's side, just a scaling issue. We are at a scale where, money provides strength. I think what it boils down to is a level of naivete, Armstrong is naive enough to think that that kind of true freedom would be anything more than a continuing of the status quo as it is. The "Haves" ruling over the "Have Nots" Nothing would truely change if he succeeded, things would just get harsher as there would not be layers of political and socioeconomic fuckery between people with money and power, and their want to just trample everything they see as beneath them.
Yeah, Armstrong represents the naive ideals of absolute individual freedom that americans lean towards, I think it's odd to characterize the fact that his strength comes from money as a contradiction when that money is clearly something that is understood as an expression of strength by that ideology.
@@CrystalLily1302 Its a shame they didn't include Armstrong's interactions with Sam. Armstrong has no issue with a man going out into the world and destroying those he perceives as evil and bringing justice down upon them (like Raiden does) but tells Sam that the evil he wishes to defeat is like a Hydra - just cutting off one head at a time won't kill it - You need something greater than yourself to pull it out at the roots.
i imagine that some people would just straight up assasinate the 'havers' and steal cybernetics or whatever, they have the strength to do it so why not ya know? the people rising up and overthrowing the system are also using strength to pursue they own goals and ideals, not like there aren't a shit ton of people who would have the means and motives to do so, this IS america after all
Armstrong would win in a landslide on the simple fact that he offers “security “ just by his appearance. Let alone his talking points. He’d atleast win all of the south and every purple state would be a red state.
And every deep blue state politician and MSM would do everything in their power to smear him to the edge of Sol and back. But would they be successful in doing so? Every red and hot blooded American would be on Armstrong's side and believe him when he says he would destroy the bureaucrats, media, everything the common American despises, with his bare hands, and nanomachines, son.
One neat touch that I don't know if is intentional, but his tie is yellow. Dems have blue ties, republicans have red, third party and especially libertarians are yellow. I'd vote for him just to screw up the two party system.
He's also the spitting image of a weak and dumb person thinks powerful people should be: large strongman body with the preference and ability to bulldoze their way through problems. The real problem is that Armstrong would be more than smart enough to _keep_ a good portion, easily a majority, of his voters in lock step with his vision to the point where breaking his influence would likely mean resorting to physical violence, much like Raiden.
@@darkthunder301 I mean, we saw what happens when a shadow of Armstrong’s charisma falls from power. If Armstrong was able to start in the elections, he would either win, or civil war would erupt.
One thing I love, is that you barely knew Armstrong before his fight, you see him for like 10 seconds in a cutscene, but he was characterized so well during his fight that he is so beloved
Not only is the narrative brilliant, but the themes of the bosses add to it too, express things that we don't get to see in some of the villains. While Collective Consciousness is more from Armstrong's point of view, It Has To Be This Way could be Armstrong or Raiden. The soundtrack could make its own essay.
Borrowing an observation from another essay on the subject? The fact that at a FEVER PITCH, the soundtrack breaks out in to SONG with lyrics singing about the emotions and tensions of the current scene makes MGR a Musical.
I feel like Collective Consciousness is more like the image Armstrong conveys at a surface level, as it's the theme that plays during Sam's encounter, and later when Raiden faces him in Excelsus however, after Armstrong starts explaining his ideology without any of the bullshit for the public, It Has To Be This Way starts playing, Raiden slowly realizing "maybe we're _not_ that different"
Collective Consciousness is basically what Raiden initially sees Armstrong’s worldview as, or even further what both Raiden and Armstrong see the Patriot AI as. Only after the MG is taken down and Armstrong is pressed on his actual beliefs, ‘It has to be this way’ could be either of them.
There's actually an internet meme that Armstrong is a part of called "Be the American the Japanese think you are" that plays on the ridiculously over-the-top stereotypes Americans have in Japanese media.
The best part about Armstrong is that: he speaks about freedom like a libertarian, wants total control like a democrat, and is more patriotic to the cause than a republican.
@@geronimo5537What do you mean Democrats want total control? Republicans are the ones who keep talking about small government but then want to control everything from what a teacher is required to reveal to their students' parents to what a woman can do with her own body.
Grear video, and I love that you are taking Armstrong seriously. Although, I think that his ideas have much more validity than you are presenting here. While he is presented with overwhelming physical strength, he is also presented with overwhelming ideological strength, which makes his villainy so scary. He fully believes in absolute strength in every aspect. In his ideal America, people could absolutely be capable of committing atrocities but would be so morally strong that it would never cross their mind. By being so focused on only his combat prowess, you are underselling the rest of what makes him such a great villain.
And the best part? He still won, even though he died he accepted defeat and he passed his memes onto jack. Just like Sam, mistral, and monsoon. As the song says “when our guard is down I think we’ll both agree, violence breeds violence but in the end it has to be this way” Idealism is a comfy and pretty idea but it’s unrealistic, in the end the universe is cruel, power dictates truth and even though we want it to be different it has to be this way. Even at the end scenes jack agrees with him in a way, if only quietly in his own mind.
The best part of Armstrong is that he appears right at the end and completely steals the show every second he's there. Truly a master class of a villain, his philosophy was also something you could agree with but also understand the means he used were where he went wrong, when he gets to the "Fuck american pride... Fuck everythingthing" in his speech we see that he believes in what he says and it's not a lie to him
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 I would say that Armstrong doesn't just believe in the purely physical "might makes right", as when he describes what he seems to view as strong and weak it tends to revolve around character, morals, principles, ideals, etc. He wants an America where those who are strong enough, intelligent enough, brave enough, or willful enough are able to do what they want to do or what they believe is right and just. His criticisms are about people lacking guiding principles of their own and not bothering to think about why they do the things they do. The real problem is that in Armstrong's America nobody else but him is actually going to follow or understand his values because it will be watered down and simplified. And, when he's gone it would just descend into total anarchy. The issue is not so much Armstrong himself, but rather that his ideals would lose their meaning once actually put into effect, because people would just use it to justify their own evils.
@@austinkersey2445 You haven't thought this through, whatsoever. You've still described might makes right, and Armstrong makes a point of this when referring to how Raiden took his life back into his own hands, in spite of his initial conditions limiting his ability to do so. As well, those with severe disabilities would never be strong enough, intelligent enough, nor literally willful enough to simply protect themselves against enemies who are more capable. They would effectively be euthanized en masse, because like Armstrong says, "people will die and kill for what they believe." It's infuriating how a series that inspired such emotion and sympathy over the conditions of war can have a fanbase that ultimately believes in war anyway. If I were Kojima, I couldn't be more heartbroken.
@@megamillion5852it is truly shocking and appalling to me how many people seem to unironically buy into all Armstrong's bullshit. He is an excellently written villain but he is a villain, vile and reprehensible. It is kind of terrifying that so many people fail to understand that he is wrong or why he is wrong.
22:46 you could say that about pretty much every character in MGR. The Winds of Destruction are all cyborgs with advanced custom bodies, Sam uses an exo suit to increase his strength and movement to stand up to cyborgs. Blade Wolf and the other robots didn't earn their strength, they didn't train, they were built with their weapons. Raiden himself is a cyborg, and after he got beaten by Sam, he got a new, more advanced body. Heck, they even address this in a CODEC call about cyborgs in sports. Everyone doesn't fully have their own strength, they just use expensive, high grade technology. That is the same type of "cheating" you criticize Armstrong for.
TBF, Sam before the exosuit, at a very young age took on an entire cartel who had automatic weapons and such... This was before his blade was turned into an HF blade... SAM is effectively the perfect example of what Armstrong was talking about, and even after he lost his arm, was given another by Armstrong who could have killed him.
@@thebanditman5663 that is absolutely true. Still, Sam used advanced technology to augment his skills during the events of Rising. He would still qualify as "cheating", according to the video
@@tinaherr3856 however this technology has in effect become commonplace now within society. Athletes with cybernetics are mentioned. It’s like phones. Once upon a time only the rich had them, not just because of expense, but because of limited supply, but tech evolved and now everyone can poses them with a little work. In Rising, Sam has a single cyborg arm, and an outdated exosuit, but is a better swordsman than Jack because he was traditionally taught. Canonically Sam lost to Jack because Jack after his loss, continued to train, then of course gained access to his repressed ripper personality.
@@thebanditman5663 again, I don't disagree that Sam has skills before and beyond the tech he uses. I was saying that the video is wrong to say that using advanced tech is "cheating"
Armstrong having nanomachines doesn't lessen his ideals about strength, he had the opportunity to gain more power and he took it. Others would be able to gain cybernetics, just not the cutting edge stuff that Armstrong has. But if someone was skilled enough to steal the blueprints of those nanomachines, they would have the same power that Armstrong has. As we see with his death by Raiden's hands, he would hold no hard feelings for being taken out by someone who was stronger then him.
It really doesn’t matter what form that power takes. Look at Raiden. I think it just matters how you use that power. Again, like Raiden. And as to Armstrong’s ideology, I believe it’s less about the stronger person killing him, more that the person who kills him embodies his ideology that he’s content with. Raiden, for better or worse, proves Armstrong, at least to a point, that the truly strong can carve out a destiny for themselves, even if they choose to help those who don’t have the strength themselves, and they can kill to keep the “status quo” going. Might makes right.
Ain't even gonna lie, Senator Armstrong makes a lot of good points. There is some truth to what he says, whether it's that this country is rotten to the core, or that he says that people have no values, and all they care about is money, or when he says fuck all the media and internet bullshit. I love him and the plot to this game. It's so smart, truthful to an extent, and hilarious.
Except like the majority of people who tell you "fake news" and all that, he himself acknowledges he's a master user of all that rot and corruption. He engineered a social media campaign. How can he then denounce the media as being corrupt? The man is a hippocrite. He claims he will abolish the very lever of power that allowed him to ascend. He wants to abolish war by waging war. He wants to reform the media by spreading lies and disinformation. He wants to remove bureaucratic innefficiency for a libertarian dictatorship, one of the most self-eating power structure in history. If the man is not a vile liar at the core, then hes just delusional.
@@ArgonmentYTI don't think there's any way of knowing that considering a major part of his philosophy (with no evidence that he's lying) is cutting off the source of income he KNOWS to be absolute. Armstrong cares about some fucked up things but he's not all about the green.
Something I love to relate to this fight is when buzz and woody fight in toy story. When riden uses Sam's sword because his sword is a "tool of justice" but Sam's isn't. It's like the part of toy story where buzz says "but we're not on my planet. Are we?"
I think an interesting detail in the Armstrong death scene is how Armstrong lies in front of Raiden, almost as if Armstrong is Raiden's own shadow. Paired with the dialogue from Armstrong, and it's pretty interesting. I also like how the camera moves upward to reveal Raiden standing above Armstrong.
(And his boss fight cutscene being redone due to accidently predicting 9/11 just as it was about to come out, tying the theme of memes back around on itself)
@@couchpotato2222 It didn't predict 9/11. Arsenal Gear was meant to crash through the Statue of Liberty, not the Twin Towers. This was removed because Kojima didn't want to come off as insensitive.
@@samfire3067 Tbf that was before everyone knew the US was a warmongering shithole responsible for the attacks themselves alongside funding judt about every terrorist organization on earth Fuck sensitivity towards an evil empire
The shadow of the protagonist trope is even more blatant in his death scene literally laying down in Raiden's shadow. It's great use of camera work to emphasize storytelling.
You can't literally hit the gym hard enough to be able to lift a few thousand tons of the Excelsus' remains, or literally cause the ground to erupt in flames. The nanomachines did significantly more than just make him significantly more durable.
I would argue that the reveal that Armstrong is using nanomachines only heightens the deconstruction rather than cheapens it. As you pointed out, people who find Armstrong's ideals compelling are people who cannot or will not recognize that they have weaknesses. One of the most common beliefs among elites in society, especially American society, is that they earned their status through their hard work or superior skills/knowledge/smarts/etc while ignoring that most of the time, there was a lot of luck involved, usually what class they were born in. Likewise, Armstrong points to Raiden as an exemplar of his ideals, ignoring the fact that Raiden didn't have control of his own life for the majority of it. Even his nature as a cyborg and the strength that resulted was because of someone else's influence, not his. The hypocrisy merely underlines just how flawed his viewpoint is. Social Darwinism claims to be about weeding out the weak, but all it really is are the privileged enforcing weakness upon the underprivileged to keep their position as the "strong". It merely creates more weakness, the exact opposite of the philosophy's stated goals.
This is the part which flies over most folk's heads, those who invoke social darwinism understand neither darwin nor society, yet feel assured they'd stand as "winners" in the eyes of both.
Except strength isn't the absence of weakness. That's one of the very few things I disagree with in the whole analysis. Having weaknesses does not and has never meant not strong no one's perfect no one's strong and every single aspect. Being strong is just maximizing your strengths and minimizing your weakness. You can say swordsmanship is Armstrong's weakness but that doesn't mean he's weak. (Being strong is the ability to do)
Armstrong is truly insane but his charm and he saying what we think of bureocracy and similar crap might make us overlook that for a while. Such a memorable villain that steals the spotlight with mere minutes of showing up.
He is right about the bureaucrats being a huge problem. Think about how much the buraucracies of every institution in our lives have multiplied their sizes 300% or more in the last 2 decades. And how we keep inventing new ones to just give people with near useless degrees a job in an already oversatuated market for their major or education level. We are legislating and bureaucratizing away every aspect of our lives and free will. Giving those decisions up to a policy written by an "expert" with no experience in real life or any connection to you and your unique situation.
armstrong just appear at the end of the main game, and took the main character spot for a while until he lets raiden have his spotlight back the only reason raiden could be at the center of attention at the last cutscene is only because armstrong bowed out he's great because he's gone before he could turn into a bad character, we want more of him but the devs know better than to make him stale
The fact that Armstrong is, at the end of the day, a dirty cheater and a hypocrite, is to me at least *perfect.* Of course the guy shouting about “We should all be free!” is only talking about himself. “We” to these people always, *always* actually means “I.”
Exactly. It's easy to spew rhetoric about "every man should be allowed to follow his own rules" when your a wealthy, manipulative, Nano enhanced monster. He only has the guts to talk so confidentially about because he feels (and for a large part IS) indestructible
Raiden sums it up quite well: "You're not greedy.... you're batshit insaaaaaane!!!" Edit to extrapolate: Over my last thirty-odd years, watching the internet grow from sapling to the gnarled husk we know it as today, I've seen my fair share of hard libertarian types, especially when crypto became the big interest for them. It seems the harder line you go past 'a man's freedom only ends by another man's fist' the more you realize a lot of these turbo-libertarians for some reason think you can simultaneously live in a universe where they're on top and yet also sell it how everyone else can, while also with a bit of squinting realizing that the type of life and mindsets they're often wishing for sounds suspiciously like being the top of the feudalism totem pole. Armstrong's not immune to this either of course, his views are a hyper-focused might make right sort of libertarianism, but well, look at the man! I'd seriously argue and debate how much of his philosophy is just part of a twisted form of bloodlust, something that is kinda another theme of MG:R in general considering how many of the other stories are some level of 'how does the rest of the cast cope with being mass murderers?'
It does weaken his relatability. Since yeah, its obvious now he will rule the utopia of shit that he would create. But as you stated, yeah it makes so much sense, because we see this all the time. People with power framing a change as beneficial for everyone, when in reality, its only because it benefits them, you'll never see the benefit of that change.
That's not much of a realization, he even says it himself. His goal is the total freedom of the individual and the natural, evolutionary survival of the fittest. Screw communism and capitalism, anarchy is the way to go.
One of the coolest parts of that game is at the end when Raiden is standing over Armstrong. The sun is on his back, which means that Armstrong is positioned directly inside of Raiden's shadow. This further cements Armstrong's final words when he said he was leaving Raiden as his successor, because in that one image, Armstrong is literally residing inside of Raiden's shadow - the dark part of the protagonist's otherwise noble philosophy.
2:23 “The game has antagonists where none of them are killing for the sake of killing. None of whom are evil the sake of being evil.” Sundowner: “Allow me to introduce myself.”
Even then, Sundowner thinks Violence is as pure and natural as love itself. Red Sun puts it the best I think; "Only Love is with us now, Something warm and pure Violence breeds within ourselves (Or find the peace within ourselves idk) No need for a cure."
Each is flawed but each believes they are just. Each a possible future for Ryden and in turn the player and each a criticism if the main character through acting as a foil
Great breakdown. I genuinely believe that someone grandiose like Armstrong that spouts Nationalism and Individual Strength complimenting community (like you said) would dominate American Culture for the next 100 years. The idealism from the Founding Fathers and call for an united America from Lincoln are literally the basis for everything Americans believe. They all spouted Freedom as being the ultimate ideal. Side note: Abraham Lincoln was SO instrumental to America's Unity we have one of our biggest and most famous Monuments dedicated to the man in our Capital. I swear the air around that place feels different.
Except Lincoln wanted national unity, not anarchy born of "every person for themselves". Lincoln also advocated the emancipation of blacks--"the weak" of the society, which Armstrong wanted to purge. Trust me. when you look deeper, Armstrong is just a madman, fallen into his own hype.
Rule of Law is one of the most important principles of America and liberal democracies in general. Rule of Law if fundamentally incompatible with a society "Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around".
this man encapsulates what i love about metal gear rising, it manages to be ridiculous and over-the-top, yet somehow use that to deliver really interesting and deep takes and themes, the writing is just amazing in this game
Senator Armstrong is the good deconstraction of the villian is because he is honest and not a viliian if you wathing on his deeds. If Stiven Armstrong was a true villian as a Homelander of some freak, he will not so merciful to the Sam and Raiden and he has a other purpors not like a true villian, that want Power and money(for power). Stiven Armstrong is the best the personification of a politician who cannot talk about his dream, because he could be considered a fascist. And with Raiden he saying true because he know, that he would be agreed with him, deep inside.
"Raiden calls armstrong insane, as if thats a disqualifying factor in American politics."
Truer words have never been spoken.
I died laughing when I heard that at work
Because his idea of a good and responsible politician is that of the one who reads from the teleprompter and says all the correct things all the time, while they do the exact opposite of what they claim, while keeping their atrocities hidden, which is something the "good" people/American, that you and this ytber clearly think you are, absolutely love. Nothing says moderation and intelligence like slowly dehumanising your political opponents down to the individual! Yay for democracy!
especially true in light of recent events lmao
@rohankishibe6433: Unfortunately. Being insane *should* disqualify you from politics.
They have rules about disallowing crippled people from running for President and Roosevelt still got elected, four times. It's all acceptable if you fooled the people.
MGR was surprisingly right about the memes. The game outlived and surpassed it’s own story. Ahead of its time, truly. Memes aside, Armstrong is just… a very good antagonist.
If I had a nickel for every time a Metal Gear game featuring Raiden as the protagonist contained political and social commentary that only became more and more relevant each passing year, I'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
I feel like raiden shines because he's much more "vulnerable" as a character at least it feels to me that I can connect more to Raiden and less to solid,naked,venom snake i sadly dont player all games of the series just 2,3,5 and rising
@@jjtheenton Crazy how everything is meme here, including what i just wrote
isn't there an american division about memes?
@@jjtheentonanother day for thanking god that Raiden isn't the main guy of mgs4 or we are absolutely fucked
In Senator Armstrong's defense, the nanomachines aren't JUST a cheat. When you realize that Raiden is also augmented, it means nothing anymore. The bigger aspect of the nanomachines are that the senator's enhancements are completely invisible, giving the illusion that he's fighting with his own hands, instead of for something he doesn't understand. This shows very well with his 5 minutes speech: He was being cornered by Raiden and beaten up, but once he began to talk about his own speech, he slowly began to regain strength.
Armstrong is not just powered by money... he's powered by convictions. There's a reason why he doesn't use a blade or anything else but relies on brute force, mankind's oldest weapon.
And ain't there nothing more American than that son? While guns are in the DNA since literally landing here the modern American loves their strongmen, the football player, the boxer, the MMA fighter. There's something about seeing someone beat the absolute tar out of another that drives the modern man to cheers. Maybe it's feeling impotent compared to all these heroes we have raised. Can't start a nation like the founding fathers or win the West like mythological cowboys but damn can I punch whatever. Punch it so hard that everyone has to see reason. It's America at it's most cartoonish and controllable. The dreams of politicians and populist is to control that wave and to direct it as they see fit.
@@ravenoferin500 Not just American, pop... universal it is. As much as fists were outdone by bullets, there is always that masculine pride in being able to punch somebody so hard they start to see stars. There's a reason why Popeye decides to throw haymakers instead of unloading a gatling magazine on Bluto. There's a reason why boxers wear gloves and not shotguns.
The naked body is a weapon that's universal to mankind even back in the days where they were physically closer to monkeys. Even with nothing but underwears equipped, you can still ball up your fist and punch. Tie your fists and you can still kick somebody. Tie your legs and you can still headbutt somebody. No matter how many fancy stuff you use to fight... your body is always ready for an ol' fashioned beatup.
A character's strength is dependent on their political convictions.
It's not necessarily political conviction or anything in that matter. It's the aspect of realizing that in this day and age. It's either you push your morals on to someone else. Or they push theirs on to you. It's been that way for ages. It's just that we keep forgett, and we let the fantasy of new ages, clouds, ower judgments of what we still do. Or what we should do.
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Not only would Sen. Armstrong get votes, he'd be VERY popular.
I mean he is now
He’s gonna make America great again 🇺🇸🦅
I'd vote for him, no contest.
He had my vote after that first sentence when we get asked if he would get votes. Restoring freedom of the individual and the right to choose.
How would Pres. Sears have done in comparison?
The whole bit where Armstrong is so happy that Raiden caves in only to be betrayed three seconds later after a almost vulnerable handshake and hug, you can’t help but briefly feel sorry for him, he is THAT charismatic. As batshit insane as he was, he was still charismatic as hell
Batshit insane, and in any other time wouldn't be even given a time of day... but if he actually existed, he'd get votes. He'd be quite bipartisan, and maybe he could actually achieve the goal he wanted if he doesn't drive the country into the ground.
He's not insane. This world is.
@@Kim_YoJonghe was kidnapping children and stealing their organs alongside making them fight wars
@@Kim_YoJong #Im14andthisisdeep
@revengance4149 I'm 37 and Armstrong is right.
Once in high school, in history, we were all told to make our own political campaign for president. A lot of people worked in groups, but i worked alone because i didnt wanna risk my idea being overrulee. My idea was to copy and paste armstrongs ideology. I had a speech and some advertisements, and i got first place. The american people love this guy
Congratulations, you have officially made the mother of All omelettes, without fretting about a single egg
Truly a certified big boss solid snake metal gear moment
i want to see your presentation.
@@macebee5587Literally a kiefersnake venom snake body double moment
@@literallytohruadachi me when my dad and brother keep trying to kill me in new bodies and I hit on every chick i see.
Holy shit i just realized. Armstrong tells jack to "fight for something you believe in" and he literally does. Once he has sams sword, jack starts fighting for an ideal hes always believed in but denied: revenge
God this game is so fucking GOOD
REVENGEance you might call it
I am not up to the complete lore of Metal Gear games. Why would Raiden want revenge from Desperado? Because they produce the same kinds of child soldiers like how he was once?
@ruzgar1372 revenge specifically might not be exactly correct, but Raiden has multiple reasons to hate desperado. Child soldiers, them starting wars, death of the president and his injuries from the beginning. If you wanted to stretch you could say this was sams revenge too for what Armstrong did to him.
The fact the Armstrong is a "might makes right" villain that *actually believes* might makes right both makes him unique and terrifying because... you can't really argue with him. Try to claim good triumphed over evil? *Nope.* You just beat him at his own game. You followed his rules, and you were just the better player. So many "might makes right" villains crumble at the end, revealing it as just a flimsy argument for them to be in charge. The fact Armstrong at the end goes "Yup, you win. You make the rules now" and follows through on his stated philosophy makes him extremely difficult to beat in a battle of ideals.
And in the end... Yeah, he and Raider *aren't* so different. Armstrong is all like "I want a world where the strong take what they want and the weak are extinguished, and I'll kill anyone in my way to do it." Meanwhile Raiden is like "I want a world where the strong protect the weak, where the hungry and poor are fed and taken care of... *and I'll kill anyone in my way to do it."*
I mean, that's because might does make right. That's just how the world works. You can do whatever you want, including good things, if you have enough power to do so. And if you don't, your ideals are irrelevant, because you'll be forced to do what someone else wants. Any law works only as long as it's enforced, after all.
@@ForOne814the concept of “right” is about what should happen not about what does happen. Either way people often choose to construct institutions around their moral/ethical beliefs.
@@kylehankins5988 depends on the definition. Stuff like "human rights" is absolutely more of a guiding principle and not an actual enforceable thing. They are about what should be done, and rarely things that are being done even remotely follow those notions. To the point that I honestly don't care about them, those are just buzzwords to me. But property rights, labor rights, gun rights? Those are both docrtinal and actual enforceable rights. They are both about what should happen and what is happening. Those are actually important.
My actual point is, while you can disagree with the principle, you can't change it. And because you can't change it, you should follow if, if you wish to achieve desirable results. Whatever those results are is irrelevant.
it was "the weak should get stronger" for armstrong, he doesn't hate the weak, he just doesn't care (about neither the strong nor the weak)
@@HungVu-ec3jk he was indifferent to almost everyone involved, although that doesn’t make his ideas any less insane.
"That's a nice argument, senator. But why don't you back it up with a source!?"
"My source is that I made it the fuck up!"
Exquisite meme Jack
Heh heh, Max0r go brrrrr
Honestly this is American politics too 😂
😂😂😂
honest and intelligent, he has my vote
"Raiden destroys the death murder robot, Then, armstrong marches out and beats the crap out of raiden with his bare fists" is a sentence that could ONLY come from the Metal Gear Franchise.
12:04
Maybe Devil May Cry too.
Or Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
Actually, it also describes Lore Genome from Gurren Lagann. In that anime too, the man is actually more powerful than the giant robot.
@@weareharbinger914 Given that that's Gurren Lagan, I'm not surprised.
I always thought that when Armstrong says "weak" he doesn't actually mean the powerless, the disadvantaged in society, but rather the "morally weak", people without conviction, without willpower, the kind of people that drifts along the current of life, those who let themselves be easily influenced. And by contrast, the "strong" are the people who have the balls to stand up for what they believe in, those who work hard to accomplish their dreams. Wich i think fits perfectly with the American myth, Armstrong wants America to go back to the time of the frontier, a society of self made men. And Raiden is the perfect example of Armstrong's ideal, he was a child soldier and managed to survive, he was a tool of the Patriots and managed to break free from their control.
You explained this perfectly. America has deep roots in the values of “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps”. I don’t really know how to articulate this right now but conviction and the desire to be something more permeate American culture, and that is what Armstrong wants for all of the country.
Indeed.
This is actually his point. But he poorly articulates it to the point the video completely misses his point
The latter is what he means, the former is what it obviously would happen
This is what Armstrong's first theme, "Collective Consciousness" criticizes; those souls who didn't have the confidence to establish themselves in society and better themselves rather giving in to their existence as one person in a land of many, along with the upper class that manipulates them into carrying out their will for them.
To be honest, he’s almost like Thanos in a way. He knows exactly what the problem is, but his solution to the problem is the most horrible, and insane solution anyone can think of.
That's an interesting but accurate viewpoint..
True . There us nothing wrong with wanting freedom. But how Armstrong wanted to implemented and the methods he used to achieve his goal are wrong
No he fucking isn't. Thanos was a guy trying to wipe out half the universe for a booty call and the mcu one is a pseudophilosophic dumb ass
Watch Panther as Star Lord. He couldve used the Embers to fix everything but then again the mcu is plagued with shitty writing and retconned lore
@@sebastianfilip6459Armstrong was the eren before eren then lol. Armstrong solution to freedom is cull the weak, and eren takes it a step further and decided that the solution to freedom is kill literally everyone else lmao.
@@vudangtung5638 Armstrong strongly believed on his own ideals, while Eren ended up being a pathetic cuck who didn't even knew what he was doing. I 100% blame twitter, zoomers and the editor for messing up Isayama's work, assuming he's not a hack.
The fact that a guy like him is still more willing to give someone on the other side a chance than the average political person today soeaks volumes
So, a Teddy Roosevelt.
Fun fact, Teddy wanted to fight in WWI, but the army denied his attempt because they were worried about what an ex-president being killed in battle would do to national morale.
sad but true lol
@@justinweber4977 That’s a nice anecdote, why don’t you back it up with a source?
@@Butter_Warrior99my source is that I made it the fuck up
@@justinweber4977 Also King George VI and even Winston Churchill wanted to enter into direct military in WW2 as they both once serving in army before but in the end they decide not to, not only they bit too old but also they worry how would Uk react if they lose King and Prime Minster altogether in war
There's a nice detail about Armstrong and Raiden's fight in the cutscene. Raiden manages to briefly get the upper hand while tearing apart Armstrong's supposed reason for his plot. Then when Armstrong finally admits what his real goals are, he gets back to thrashing Raiden easily. In other words, Armstrong is at his most powerful when he is honest about who and what he truly believes.
Or, maybe, it is Raiden who is stronger when he believes he is fighting pure evil
It's effectively Raiden's idea too: The dominant worldview always came from the ruling class.
@@user-uq9se1nx9qOh, definitely. That’d also link back into his tool of justice thing and the Ripper dilemma he had. Struggling against Armstrong wasn’t necessarily because Raiden lacked power, but because he went in trying to slice through Armstrong apart like he was just some purely evil villain.
Once Raiden realized the truth of Armstrong and why they really had to be enemies, *that* was when he could finally start the real fight.
@@teslashark "No matter who wins justice will prevail, because those who win decide what is just" -Donquiote Dofaminco
@@chriscormac231 Yeah, Oda and Kojima are pretty open about drawing from Marx's observations about culture formation
"Fk 24/7 of trivia and celebrity bullshirt and the media" He got a point there
Man would get my vote just for that
He would definitely vote for that TikTok ban lmao
@@HuneeBruh it should be banned everywhere tbh
because it's such a low-hanging fruit take
Armstrong's reliance on nanomachines for his physical strength is perfectly in line with his worldview. Being able to lead people and convince them to do what you want _is_ a strength.
yeah, even if a person isn't physically strong there's still other strengths they can use to get what they want, whether it be intelligence or charisma or willpower or whatever else. Physical strength isn't the only way to get what you want and Armstrong seems to acknowledge this fully
I look it more as, if you aren’t strong, then get stronger. He acknowldge that Raiden was weak at one point and grew to become stronger. So it is not the power you are born into, but power that you have. Nanomachine are just one way to obtain power, and it is foolish not to use it. I feel it is wrong for Brett to call him hypocritical for this. It is totally in line of his philosophy.
I though it was pretty clear he was talking about will power , those who are willing to stand up for what they belive in and fight for it.
@@Bluedragon-iz3oo It is hypocritical as that nanomachine tech (along with the shitton of stuff he bought and/or hired) is clearly not a product of sheer willpower, but a fuckton of employees and the finance to fund and maintain everything.
Which means financial and social prowess (as Armstrong could not have had gain access to clearly unusual technology were he to not have statuses). Which means tangible, quantified strength.
He isn't self controlled, which is strength.
Every single enemy in MGR used augments, Armstrong using them is not cheating. It literally serves as an explanation as to why he isn't destroyed by his own men or Raiden.
I think what brett is referring to is while Armstrong states he desires individual strength he is infact relying on the collective support of those who made the nanomachines
@@meepfanmeepster8620no, he's using his own resources to buy those things. His world view is intact, even if this brainlet video essayist does not get it. That's like saying someone in the wild west with a similar world view was cheating by using a 6 shooter instead of his fists. It's idiotic.
I’d love to know if he had that size and physique prior to the nanomachines.
Not everyone.
Jetstream Sam has no augments and was still able to hold his ground against Raiden.
@@maniacone4499 “Samuel Rodrigues, also known as Jetstream Sam and Minuano (ミヌアノ, Minuano?), was a cyborg mercenary involved with the Desperado PMC group who fought against Raiden during the events of 2018. “
“Sam did not have many cybernetic enhancements, as Raiden discovered upon killing him, having maintained most of his original body. Instead, he was equipped with a powered exoskeleton (serial number 977-AZQEE) that enhanced his strength, durability, speed and agility to incredible superhuman levels, as a means of matching up to other cyborgs. Sam's only cybernetic replacement was his right arm, although he displayed great skill in the use of his Murasama sword prior to this.”
To Armstrong, the nanomachines are just another gun, and he's just the right American with a licence
"Licenses are for pussies." - Armstrong, probably
Why does this go hard though-
Senator Armstrong wouldn’t give to rats *sses about a license, let’s be real.
I think Armstrong failing to see the flaw in his logic gave him a crucial weakness in his fight with Raiden. When Blade Wolf showed up with Sam’s Murasama, he doesn’t believe Wolf would be willing to sacrifice himself to let Raiden kill him. He tries to intimidate him. If he helps Raiden, he’s dooming himself.
Armstrong believes that if you want a job done right, you need to have the strength to do it yourself. He doesn’t believe in self-sacrifice to further a cause. So when Wolf challenges this line of thinking with his own actions, Armstrong’s completely blindsided. He goes for Wolf instead of trying to maybe catch the Murasama or something. He only sees Wolf as another one of the nonsense-spouting helpless nobodies he’s purging.
If I remember right, Wolf said something to the effect of "Yes, I am programmed to value my own well being first and foremost" or something _and then immediately contradicting what he just said his programming is._
@@StarshadowMelody He showed that he's more than his programming, and more than his selfish nature - which instantly refuted Armstrong's entire worldview. That's powerful stuff.
@@johndoe8655 Armstrong’s a hypocrite, though. He sees the nanomachines as his own power, even though he just bought the enhancements. My point is not that Armstrong doesn’t see the value of collective effort. My point is that he doesn’t understand what Wolf would have to gain from self-sacrifice.
Wolf does end up surviving, of course, but I feel like that’s more because Armstrong didn’t get the chance to completely finish him off.
@@StarshadowMelody Wolf doesn’t contradict it, but rather states that he’s moved beyond his programming. He says something like “I can establish my own parameters and directives now, so I’m choosing to prioritize Raiden kicking your ass over my ass remaining intact”
Heh, it's less that Blade Wolf was pointing out a flaw in his logic, and more like Blade Wolf was applying Armstrong's logic to himself. He decides to make his own choices and fight. Armstrong, following the logic, just accepted the challenge and started punching, may the best man/dog/being win.
I always thought Armstrong's idea of strong isn't purely physical but overall strength. Like a smart person is also considered strong for him.
The first king may very well not have been the strongest warrior in the tribe, but the rather the best at manipulation who convinced the strongest he had ideas so good he should be the one who tells everyone what to do.
That's exactly correct. He isn't just talking about physical strength.
That's the same point I have about Armstrong. He doesn't mean it by physical only. He means it mentally as well. With great strength, it's useless without a strong mentality. You'd only have a barbarian if strength is dominant
Yes. Though it's not enough to be smart. He sees people who risk themselves to satisfy their desires as strong. A politician sending soldiers to die for something they don't believe in is the ultimate weakness to him.
Not because they're smart, but because they've used their intelligence to gain power over others. It's all domination with these types of people.
Completely lost my mind when I played this a decade ago and he quoted both Martin Luther King Jr and Ronald Reagan in the span of like 3 and a half minutes.
Armstrong: “I have a dream.”
Super Best Friends Play: “What?”
Me: “What?”
Raiden: “What?”
Everyone watching/playing the game: ***dies of laughter***
Something that i noticed when Armstrong dies is that he completely covers Raiden's shadow when he falls, reinforcing the fact that Raiden and Armstrong are the same,since Raiden carved his path through sheer determination and strengh and that is exactly what Armstrong was talking about when he was giving his speech about the strong purging the weak. This means that Armstrong was just the shadow of Raiden, they WERE the same.
Even the song during the final boss fight reflects this and the neat part of that particular song is who is singing it? Is it our hero? Or is it the villain? Either way, the two of them came to the same conclusion and yet had massively different paths to reach that conclusion.
@@LightnaI've seen many treat it as a dialogue between them.
@@Lightna I heard that the theme that plays when you fight the MG Excelsius (Collective Consciousness) is Raiden's perspective of Armstrong and his morals before his speech and how he believes Armstrong is just another corrupt ruler, somewhat similar to Big Brother in 1984. The theme after he realises Armstrong has a different philosophy than just "Control the people's thoughts, Control the economy" shows that in a way, Raiden agrees with him, but its too late for talking out of it after Raiden gets Sam's sword, hence the name "It Has To Be This Way", he didn't want to fight Armstrong, but at that point he had to. idk tho, its up for negotiation since there's multiple views on it and that's just my view. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
and after the end credit Raiden actually keep on fighting , keeping Armstrong's legacy on going .
@@Lightnaive always seen it as the two doing it in unison sorta
To this day, my favorite reaction to Armstrong is when Super Best Friends played. When Armstrong said, "I have a dream" Matt and Patt both said, "What?" Then Raiden said it too and they just absolutely burst out laughing. God damn poetry right there.
You're Armstrong. You know why?
I miss those guys
Ahh good times 😔
@@SilentSoul645 , do you have huggable arms too?
@@MegaToonzNetwork I do 🫂
I love how Armstrong changes his attitude when he thought he got through to raiden. It shows his honesty. He doesn’t want war to have war he admits he wants one last war to end all wars. A man by his word as insane as it is. He sticks by his goal and doesn’t deviate. He wants exactly what he says. So yes he definitely would win if he was real 😂😂😂
Nah, Armstrong looks for tools he can use to further his own interest. The man was a manipulative politician through and through.
Well, most Americans would have the same mindset towards old enemies too, so long as they’re “genuine” or serve our interests. You don’t think the U.S would love to get along with Russia more? The only thing stopping us is a difference in idealogy
@@MsMrapplepieideology isn't the problem it has to do with economics and worldwide influence
@@mote_vengador2832Kinda. Same deal with Europe, there is many cooperation, but the second us isn't on first place...they are on their own. This is a dirty game, and you can prosper in peace only by being the best, one way or another.
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 sadly it is like that but eventually one way or the other the superpowers would have to cooperate further
I think you missed a great opportunity to talk about how gameplay can show a character's personality
Raiden, for example, moves with agility and grace while chopping his enemies to bits, showing his combat experience as well as his ruthlessness.
However, Armstrong is different.
Armstrong is by far the easiest boss is block/parry in MGRR because all his attacks are so slow and telegraphed, showing just how inexperienced he is.
However, he is still dangerous due to his massive health bar, his fire attacks that are hard to avoid, his powerful melee that hit like a truck, his throwing building at you that you have to cut precisely, his self healing that you can interrupt if you're quick. Everything is due to his nanomachines.
All this helps show, (remember show, dont tell) you about Armstrong's worst and best traits. He is powerful not because he is hard working or talented but simply because he is rich enough to buy a shortcut.
But on the other hand, he fights more honourably than every other boss (except Jetstream Sam)
Mistral uses Dwarf Geckos to harass you while you fight.
Monsoon uses smoke grenades and uses his unique body to attack from a distance and avoid attacks. While also throwing helicopters, and giant spinning wheels of death.
Sundowner uses a helicopter to attack and harass you. He uses explosive shields, and he sends goons and swings massive poles at you when he starts losing.
Compared to that, Armstrong may be a privileged, powerful villain but he has ideals and principles, and you can see that in how he fights because, unlike all those bosses he doesn't fight dirty and accepts his loss with dignity
I had to rewrite this comment 5 times because RUclips kept crashing.
Great comment
He does throw giant debris tho
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Um... I'd point out that the dude makes it a point that his training is military and sports. He doesn't have refined swordsmanship like Jetstream Sam or advanced cybernetic bodies like the other Winds. He's slower and clunkier because he's a fleshy human bolstered by Nanomachines (, son).
It's not that he's inexperienced, he's just not as refined as Sam or as advanced as people like Monsoon.
Not only that, due straight up calls out Raiden's attempt to play him up as some suit only for him to point out that not only did he go to a more 'standard' college, he actually gave up a pro career in football to serve his country. Dude's more of a hard worker than you give him credit for, and does care about America. Too bad he's also ****ing nuts.
Nice
Armstrong is a type of villain that I've been craving more of for a long time: A caricature of the negative aspects of American Exceptionalism, but presented in the bombastic and undeniably contagiously fun way that American patriotism tends to present itself with. In the same way Captain America represents the ideals that America strives for, Armstrong represents the ugly realities of America and its culture, but presented in an equally stars-and-stripes-laden package. It's a form of villainy that presents itself with the look and feel of the good guy. It's a very realistic portrayal of how villains can be compelling ideologically and aesthetically, using a real-world template that we're very familiar with. We need more things like this.
Homelander from The Boys hits the same beat. Putting on the mask of this god loving, america first patriot, wearing the flag as a cape. And then you hear him complain about the marketing bs they make him say and realize he doesn't care about anyone but himself and his image in the most cynical ways possible.
Hmm I would as armstrong is right up there with the illusive man from mass effect. Humanity first, make humanity great again. Humanity will lead the other species.
Nicely stated.
I wonder which characer represents a positive caracature of American Exceptionalism?
Armstrong directly rejects American Exceptionalism in literally very next cutscene when he talks about how America is rotten to the core & how he hates American pride & everything around it. He's anarchistic to the highest degree.
Love how Armstrong has gone from an over the top cartoony villain when this was first released to now where he’s an over the top cartoony villain that is UNCOMFORTABLY familiar.
MGR understood America better than most Americans.
Lol, the parts that actually are familiar are great.
Saying Armstrong is a "cheater" for his nanomachines is like saying Raiden is one for his cybernetic enhancements. The strength Armstrong refers to isn't a purely physical one anyways.
I didn't even realize he ignore raiden cybernetics completely
Raiden didn't ask to be a cyborg though, to be fair. Considering the lengths Armstrong went to in order to conceal his augmentation, it's safe to say he did.
@@mercury2157 He did ask for an upgraded body, considering he would have never been able to defeat the winds, let alone Armstrong, with his older one.
i'd even go as far as to argue it's perfectly fine under his own ideals, just be strong enough to get the nanites, whether that being to get yourself into the position where you have access to it legally, or just stealing it or what have you, that's perfectly fine in his own ideology, armstrong became a politian through various 'strengths' like charisma, intelligence and through having made connections and the like, that strength gave him access to the nanites.
@@supremcaos Well. He was originally turned into a cyborg when the Patriots abducted him and forced those modifications onto him. So yeah, he didn't ask to be a cyborg. But he did ask to get that upgraded body after Sam nearly killed him.
Still agree with your initial point anyway.
My favorite line from Armstrong is after he went on his rant on everything wrong with America, Raiden asks how he got elected, and his response is "Well, I don't write my own speeches." Everything he said is unhinged and highly controversial, and he knows it damn well. It's a line that implies that he know how to work the system in spite of his radical beliefs.
As insane as Armstrong is, his perspective on war is more noble than our current understanding. War is young men dying and old men talking as the quote goes. But in Armstrongs world people will fight on their own terms instead of being shipped off to a country they don’t know to a war they don’t want to fight for reasons they’ll never truly understand. At least if Armstrong’s word existed, if people were going to fight they’d be fighting and dying on their own terms for their own reasons which is arguably better than what we currently have.
Except even that idea is flawed, because the idea of unrestricted power being based on strength ultimately means being unrestricted from just… Forcing people to fight for you. And having people fight for you, would be called war.
His ideology would come full circle into the same society he complains about, where the masses (or in this case, the weak) become sheep to the few (or in this case, the strong). The strong would simply reinforce weakness amongst those below them, because why not? Nothing’s stopping them from doing so.
So, no, you’d still end up with young men dying and old men talking.
@ferrik1675 It's the mother of all omelettes.
Can't fret over every egg.
@@ferrik1675Strength of Conviction, not just strength of Body.
@@ferrik1675 Except he would just point out that if you didn't like that, you should get strong and force everyone to _not_ do that. Strength and might makes right have no implicit bias for any one way of ruling. If the strong choose to rule through example, kindness and loyalty, or if they choose to subjugate and enslave, it makes no difference to Armstrong.
The armed forces in volunteer systems tends to be staffed by working class and underclass folks who get a "choice" between the military and poverty.
This guy is the reason I love Videogames. By far the best video game villain, Zeus my ass. The most quotable, iconic and fun character out of one of the best game franchises. Metal gear rising is my favorite game and this guy is 90 percent of the reason.
The funny thing is the director told the localization team to embellish Armstrong's politics. In a bizarre twist for English localizations, we have a better version of Armstrong than Japan does.
Hmm I would as armstrong is right up there with the illusive man from mass effect.
Very quotable… so quotable in fact that (Trump)
The Boss & Liquid are way better.
@@SomeGuy_Somewhereopinions brother
Kojima’s understanding of the American psyche is always incredible.
Hideo Kojima had very little to do with this game as it released
@@NightCap7he was still a consultant, so every story element had to be approved by him. It's in the gameplay where he was truly hands-off
@@NightCap7 The story of MGR was done in collaboration with Kojipro after the decision was made to shift from a prequel to a sequel of MGS4, Kojima was brought in to consult.
Makes sense he is a Westaboo.
Kojima wants to be american so bad
The funniest thing in that cutscene is that Senator Armstrong's slogan is Make America Great Again. That's absolutely incredible.
Just like Trump he’s taken inspiration from Reagan for better or for worse. 💀
@@PirateKingBoros And Reagan took it from the America First party, a pro-Nazi political group from WW2 who took the phrase from someone else before them. It has a long history as the slogan for American nationalists and antisemitism.
@@PirateKingBoros Definitely worse.
His ideas, on paper, aren’t terrible. While he does take it to the extreme, he wanted a world where the people came before the government. And he works to prove his goals.
He was also willing to fight and die for it. He may be a madman, but god damn does he have balls to go face to face with a cybernetic ninja psycho.
@@stephenlee1664
...while being even stronger (at least he thought).
@@kjj26khe was stronger than raiden, raiden only won because of the murasama.
He wanted a world where it was morally acceptable to kill people you disagreed with. No thanks.
He literally quotes Umberto Eco's essay "Ur-Fascim". He's a cartoonist platonic ideal of what a fascist is.
You misunderstand.
Money is also a form of strength, power. The product of work, influence, skill. He earned his enhancements and did not "cheat" any more than Raiden, who is in a body that is also worth an insane amount of money.
Plus, look at him. He's jacked to the point of being peak human. His flesh looks as strong as physically possible. If using nanomachines makes him weak, then relying on a HF blade also makes Raiden weak. Such tools are just necessary to fight in this universe.
The greater irony is that a man who espouses radical individualism is powered by billions of cooperating robots.
you expect an intangible consciousness to do everything?
a lot of people who have never read hubert spencer (or in this case, haven't played the game) assume social darwinism is survival of the physically strongest, ie: muscle and brutality. they are the thickskulled muscle-brains they imagine themselves standing against. survival of the fittest refers to adaptation, fitting in.
The relationship between Raiden and Armstrong, despite having such a short time to develop, is arguibly the highlight of their interaction.
Despite seeing the former as a threat to his plans, Armstrong sees Raiden as the perfect example of a "self made man".
A child soldier who survived, was trained to be Snake's equal and became a nigh unstoppable cyborg "vigilante"
And as far as Armstrong's idea of "strength" its probably not literal strength, but *moral* strength. Someone who is unwilling to compromise his own morals for something as base as greed and where politics doesn't get in the way of good people like Raiden dealing out true justice.
Its why he's not too mad at dying once he realises that Raiden's eyes have sort of been opened by his journey throughout the story. Like he said, he left behind a worthy successor.
I can’t believe this guy is voiced by the same guy as Mimir from God of War. The two characters could not be more different.
Imagine Raiden carrying around Armstrong's reanimated head as he continues rambling about America 🤣
Actually a few times, I thought “hey, he sounds familiar” 16:43
Already made a joke about this in another video. AND the fact he's also the same guy who voices Celebrimbor in Shadow of Mordor/War! XD
Armstrong would respect the HELL out of Kratos, and you know it.
The voice of Alucard in Hellsing is also the voice of Sundowner.
@@DeathMessenger1988Greek Saga Kratos, but not Norse Saga.
Armstrong is the kind of guy I would go to war for. Not because he's a great politician, but because I know he would be jumping around ripping up tanks and truly helping in the war.
mfw Biden steps in the Ukraine war and obliterates an entire Russian batallion
Same, but for the opposite reason
I mean, to be fair, name me ONE politician from the last century that you're truly confident was both morally and mentally upright and had a meaningful impact. The nature of the job itself just attracts the power-hungry, the narcissistic, and the delusional. Y'know, all the people who view themselves as the main characters of real life. So what really makes Armstrong worse than any of them? They're all guilty of similarly twisted aspirations, so why NOT side with the one who genuinely believes in his cause rather than just manipulating everything for his personal benefit and who has the means and competence to succeed in his mission. The bitter truth is that humanity isn't really capable of producing leaders who can be good people while remaining effective in their efforts to bring about change. You often have to fight dirty to accomplish anything, but you probably won't have a very positive impact on the world if you do fight dirty. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Entropy will win out in the long run, anyway, so unless you're comfortable just being passive, neutral doormat, there's not really an objectively better option to get behind than someone like Armstrong. It really just comes down to if your subjective ideals are compatible with his.
I would but YT would censor him. A politician who was put through the grinder of humanity and trashed on his whole life, yet managed to fix everything that plagued his country.@@metanightmare4454
So basically, the only hope for the future is luck that a politician wants what the people want and is hellbent on that front as opposed to human vices?
His son was killed in a pointless war that served the interests of shareholders. He wanted to make sure that never happened again
Yet the narrator never explains that point
Wait, I can't find information that Armstrong had a kid
The reason I know that Armstrong would get votes, is that he's the most popular character in the game. By a huge margin. And even I have gotten into that.
And I think what nails is is "I have a dream" which is the best line for his entire characterization. I don't know if this line was developed by the localization team, or if the writer truly did understand this man, somewhere along the line, this man became as American as any American you could find. Even more so. America hates bureaucracy and committees culturally as well. It's fundamentally populist as well desiring things in the hands of people. It's a very VERY deep understanding of how America ticks which plays right into almost every American's worldview.
I think however what this analysis misses is how "the weak" fits into Armstrong's worldview. It's not just the physically weak. It's the people who abuse the system and such actions. It's not the child on the side of the road. And to him, that's just an impetous become stronger.
Exactly people miss his point all the time he isn't talking only about the fisicly weak he is talking about useless burocrats that abuse the sistem they have total control. He wants to wipe the slate clean off all the bullshit.
I mean, in all fairness, almost no villain in MGR fights using 'their own strength'. They're cyborgs, their strengths come from their kit and how experienced they are in using them, in addition to certain underhanded tactics. Out of all of them, Armstrong is the most grounded and fair out of all of them.
Sure he is roided with nanomachines, but all that's doing is just buffing his physical might and endurance. Everything else is just him pulling on his own 'martial prowess'.
I'd say given the worldbuilding and the story, the nanomachines were a great compromise. Armstrong used what was needed, but it isn't like he's able to summon minions, create invulnerable shields, cut anything into ribbons, or be able to split his body and put it back together. He's just all roided up so his bluster can pack some literal punches.
Armstrong literally needs to suck the energy out of the world around him for his nanomachines to work. Unlike every other villain in the game, all his strength has to come from sources outside himself.
@@HeavySighSA thermodynamics called, it wants you back in the lecture hall
@@HeavySighSA in a way, doesn't Raiden also do that, with his enemies electrolytes and him taking his enemies weapons for himself?
@@Urd-Vidan Could be argued, but the electrolytes seem to be mostly used for repair, as Raiden can use blade mode even if he's out of energy. So that's an argument that is tied to player effectiveness.
Conversely, Armstrong's fight literally starts with him draining energy out of his giant robot for his powers to even work, and he continually tops himself off during the fight.
Without a convenient external power source to drain, Armstrong has no power, much like how his personal business needs the forces of brainwashed kidnapped orphans to drum up business while Armstrong claims to follow an ideology that wants people to 'fight their own battles'.
@@HeavySighSA
Tbf, that's part of his powerset. Almost all the bosses in the game have their own "hacks" that give them something over Raiden. Even Raiden is a state of the art cyborg that's continuously evolve in the game by taking his opponent's weapons along the way(Examples like Mistral's arms and Sam's sword). Armstrong's philosophy doesn't only mean physical strength, but also mental strength and willpower to take what you want, with the power to do so. It's overall strength. He's still following his philosophy, even when born with a silver spoon. He took opportunities and put in the work to get to where he is. He used everything he was born with to the maximum. Even in death, he still won with Raiden, the ideal citizen for his "America", who took his ideology.
That final shot of the dying Armstrong lying perfectly in Raiden's shadow would have perfectly set up another game.... If it was ever possible.
If Armstrong really were a cheating coward, that would mean he’s afraid of actually losing and dying. He expresses no fear of anything like that. That’s why Sam was working for him. When Raiden literally kills him, he only expresses admiration for him. Armstrong dies only telling Raiden that he hoped to have taught him something through it all. No fear, and only acceptance
he played college ball yk
Also, Armstrong outmuscled Sam, and Sam expected a quick solution which was the cutting of stuff. Even there, Armstrong had a stronger will than Sam.
Pretty good, but I have some criticism. Armstrong isn't talking about strength of body, but strength of will. He desires a country defined by the Ubermensch. People like Raiden and Armstrong who will fight, suffer, even die for ideals wholly their own. He believes that those with strength of will will naturally stamp out the weak like Khamsin, who fight for empty ideals they don't understand, fight wars they don't care about, cowards who create death and suffering for no purpose and yet beg and plead when given the same treatment.
Of course this is still a nonsensical ideal for the same reason that the utopia Andrew Ryan wanted was an impossible ideal: someone has to scrub the toilets. It sounds cool if everyone was their own master off fighting a meaningful battle against ideals they don't believe in, but unless you have "weak" workers without their own 50 page essay on ideals who just kind of work and chill, everything breaks down.
The best part about Armstrong is that: he speaks about freedom like a libertarian, wants total control like a democrat, and is more patriotic to the cause than a republican.
Yep, he's a bona-fide fasc!
And Sam don't forget Sam.
@@anthonynorman7545 "Everything I Don't Like Is Fascism"
@@anthonynorman7545he’s an extreme libertarian if not a full blown anarchist. That’s basically the polar opposite of Fascism. Sure they have the same strongman idea but in execution they’re polar opposites.
He sounds like less of a villain then any politician we have today, you could’ve convinced me he was the protagonist if you wanted to
He would have the world burn to live in a world where he is the only free man
@@land_and_air1250 at least there would be one truely free man
@@Hariburger are you suggesting that current us politicians wouldn’t do that?
@@william2glaser227"Government is more gooder in real life then Armstrong the bad guy, the news and my favorite entertainers and influencers said so (I actually have no clue what happens in the world but if anyone tells me about the WEF and NWO that's just a conspiracy theory!1!!)"
@@Hariburgeronly not long ago, the coffee giants signed a document that using slave and child labor is bad, what kind of morality are you talking about?
I was _not_ expecting a MGR video from Brett, but I have never been happier to see one. Greatest antagonist in video games.
The only antagonist I know well that could possibly rival him is Mephiles from 06, and that's only because he gets so much screentime. He's great, but Armstrong is exceptional
@@thatdoofus4529and this is more or less the only screen time Armstrong really gets until dlc it’s insane how well written he was for essentially an hours worth of game at most
@@boney2982 Exactly! In just 40 minutes of cutscenes he outshines 99% of any kind of media's antagonists (books, movies, video games, etc.)
@@thatdoofus4529 the Japanese are truly a different breed when it comes to a lot of fiction
@@boney2982 Alot of their work is peak. Studio Ghibli has a really good game called Ni No Kuni Wrath of the White Witch, I highly recommend. Very good and cute rpg, but not afraid to hit you with a lot of dark narratives
my favorite kind of villian: the kind whose ideology isn't entirely wrong, just taken to an extreme. Individual freedom is important, self-determination is important, but armstrong's dog-eat-dog world would be pretty terrible. chaos and mayhem isn't very epic.
The best part about Armstrong is that: he speaks about freedom like a libertarian, wants total control like a democrat, and is more patriotic to the cause than a republican.
@@geronimo5537this
@@geronimo5537 Based
@@geronimo5537amazing
(here before somebody starts an argument)
@@geronimo5537 As Brett said, every American can find something agreeable in Armstrong.
And unfortunately, it's clear that that is all it takes. ONE agreeable thing and all the rest can go f*ck itself.
Japanese writers often criticize America and its culture in a particular light based on America’s foreign policy, including Japan as an unequal and conditional ally. I think Senator Armstrong sums it up the most blatantly, and this helped me spot the pattern show up more subtly in so many other stories.
Especially, since the drop.
"He says he could break the President in half with his bare hands and I believe him" Obvious statement of a life time.
"none of the antagonists are evil for the sake of being evil"
Literally Sundowner
He’s evil because he loves war and the bloodshed that comes from it.
"YES WE TURN KIDS INTO CYBORG NINJAS AND THEY WILL FIGHT"
Putting aside all the fighting, I feel bad for Armstrong when jack is tricking Armstrong by giving false hope. He Picks jack up, dusts him off, and even gives jack a hug. When jack tricked Armstrong and pushes him aside you can see the pure disappointment in his face, like bro was just looking for a friend 😢.
Nah, Armstrong looks for tools he can use to further his own interest. The man was a manipulative politician through and through.
He was delusional. He thought that his strength up till that point had granted him through self interest and because he deserved to win up till that point through being strong that therefore Jack would agree with him. It was his defeat ideologically before the physical loss he would soon face
Bro you took his bait 😭
@@ElBandito I don’t really agree with that he just wanted to be on the same side as one is the epitomes of strength
@@BallerDickson Easy to be on the same side with strength when one is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and is a Senator. Never be fooled by demagogues.
"Could he get elected?"
Frankly, I don't into social media, and I'd vote for him. Purely because of the line "fuck chicken shit bureaucrats."
Guy is just so charismatic.
Armstrong only says that his Nanomachines harden with physical trauma. But this doesn't really make him stronger, just more durable.
On the contrary. Making your muscles and skin more rigid and resistant by hardening them up would decrease their elasticity, and by extension your physical strength.
So not only is Armstrong really that strong on his own - he was fighting with a handicap.
Edit: Btw yes please gimme some more Metal Gear content.
That's interesting
That just means that you don't mess with this senator
If anyone doesn’t get it. He basically said “harden skin doesn’t make you hit harder. It makes your moves slower and more rocky.”
He's actually really strong. Raiden can lift thousands of tons of steel or stop a moving ship. And we can see Armstrong stoping and catching Raiden punches or straightup wrestling with him.
Didnt he absorb the electricity from the metal gear which gave him strength and powered his nanomahines
I think an essay on Raiden would be interesting too. Cause in the post credits seen, he literally says "I got my own war to fight." Meaning that Armstrong did indeed have an impression on Raiden.
I am a real American.
Fight for the rights of every man.
I am a real American.
Fight for what's right!!!
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIIIIIFE!
-Senator Armstrong
On God
Terry Bollea would 100% vote for him.
the memes brother
@@aaronchef82is......ARMSTRONG
BECAUSE THEY HAVE STRONG ASS ARMS
I think that a big part of senator armstrong's character that often goes misses is that he is also a caricature of Japan's own nationalists and warhawks. The kind of people that admire the country'a dominance during wwii and the economic excess of the 80s without knowledge of nor care for the atrocities that took place within those periods.
I think you have a good point
Nationalism is a meme repeated over and over across the world so yeah parallels can be made. The sweeping under the rug of past tragedies and the heightening of glory.
Sounds like a win/win to me.
You could, in theory, have that. The dominance without the atrocities, or at the very least a lot less heinous ones compared to Imperial Japan.
I feel like it could be a caricature of both the U.S and Japan during those times
2:20
I mean, tbf, there’s Sundowner, who was some random jackass who LOVED war.
If he could get married to it, he probably would.
And if the war were a child, he'd touch it.
@@heavystalin2419 He'd probably do that anyway, sadly.
@@heavystalin2419 "Kids are cruel, Jack. And I LOVE minors!"
Hideo Kojima is my favorite game director, his analysis on America and the internet is spot on, but also, his games aren't nihilistic about the problems we face. Like at the end of MGS2, when Raiden gets to choose his new name and life, free of GW's control
Kojima didn't write MGR
MGR wasn't written by Kojima though
No it isn't. Kojima's views is stereotypical whiny Japanese man.
@@EpicRedCondorhe was still doing advisory work to Platinum since the Franchise was his child in terms of scrip writting
Aside from the memes, I always thought Armstrong was an amazing villain! A pure showman who is all about the stuff the worst of us here in the U.S. are fervently obsessed with. He's ahead of his time!
The academic term is Hauntology, thanks, French socialists, but Kojima can't fit this long word into tight scenes.
I really like the exposition in 27:30 with Armstrong lying on the ground dying with his body resembling Raiden's shadow (reflecting a version of him that took a darker path with his understanding of strength and morals)
Raiden's Strength also comes from his Cybernetic Body. So I don't see this so much as a hypocrisy on Armstrong's side, just a scaling issue. We are at a scale where, money provides strength. I think what it boils down to is a level of naivete, Armstrong is naive enough to think that that kind of true freedom would be anything more than a continuing of the status quo as it is. The "Haves" ruling over the "Have Nots" Nothing would truely change if he succeeded, things would just get harsher as there would not be layers of political and socioeconomic fuckery between people with money and power, and their want to just trample everything they see as beneath them.
Yeah, Armstrong represents the naive ideals of absolute individual freedom that americans lean towards, I think it's odd to characterize the fact that his strength comes from money as a contradiction when that money is clearly something that is understood as an expression of strength by that ideology.
@@CrystalLily1302 Its a shame they didn't include Armstrong's interactions with Sam. Armstrong has no issue with a man going out into the world and destroying those he perceives as evil and bringing justice down upon them (like Raiden does) but tells Sam that the evil he wishes to defeat is like a Hydra - just cutting off one head at a time won't kill it - You need something greater than yourself to pull it out at the roots.
i imagine that some people would just straight up assasinate the 'havers' and steal cybernetics or whatever, they have the strength to do it so why not ya know? the people rising up and overthrowing the system are also using strength to pursue they own goals and ideals, not like there aren't a shit ton of people who would have the means and motives to do so, this IS america after all
Armstrong would win in a landslide on the simple fact that he offers “security “ just by his appearance. Let alone his talking points. He’d atleast win all of the south and every purple state would be a red state.
And every deep blue state politician and MSM would do everything in their power to smear him to the edge of Sol and back. But would they be successful in doing so? Every red and hot blooded American would be on Armstrong's side and believe him when he says he would destroy the bureaucrats, media, everything the common American despises, with his bare hands, and nanomachines, son.
One neat touch that I don't know if is intentional, but his tie is yellow.
Dems have blue ties, republicans have red, third party and especially libertarians are yellow.
I'd vote for him just to screw up the two party system.
He's also the spitting image of a weak and dumb person thinks powerful people should be: large strongman body with the preference and ability to bulldoze their way through problems. The real problem is that Armstrong would be more than smart enough to _keep_ a good portion, easily a majority, of his voters in lock step with his vision to the point where breaking his influence would likely mean resorting to physical violence, much like Raiden.
Yup. Americans don’t care if people elsewhere get killed, they‘d vote for him hands down
@@darkthunder301 I mean, we saw what happens when a shadow of Armstrong’s charisma falls from power. If Armstrong was able to start in the elections, he would either win, or civil war would erupt.
One thing I love, is that you barely knew Armstrong before his fight, you see him for like 10 seconds in a cutscene, but he was characterized so well during his fight that he is so beloved
Not only is the narrative brilliant, but the themes of the bosses add to it too, express things that we don't get to see in some of the villains. While Collective Consciousness is more from Armstrong's point of view, It Has To Be This Way could be Armstrong or Raiden. The soundtrack could make its own essay.
Borrowing an observation from another essay on the subject? The fact that at a FEVER PITCH, the soundtrack breaks out in to SONG with lyrics singing about the emotions and tensions of the current scene makes MGR a Musical.
I feel like Collective Consciousness is more like the image Armstrong conveys at a surface level, as it's the theme that plays during Sam's encounter, and later when Raiden faces him in Excelsus
however, after Armstrong starts explaining his ideology without any of the bullshit for the public, It Has To Be This Way starts playing, Raiden slowly realizing "maybe we're _not_ that different"
All of the themes in mgr are not only absolute bangers but wonderful descriptions of the bosses psyche, past and reasons for being where they are.
Collective Consciousness is basically what Raiden initially sees Armstrong’s worldview as, or even further what both Raiden and Armstrong see the Patriot AI as. Only after the MG is taken down and Armstrong is pressed on his actual beliefs, ‘It has to be this way’ could be either of them.
Collective consciousness is literally the thing Armatrong hates the most. The whole song is cynical to the letter.
There's actually an internet meme that Armstrong is a part of called "Be the American the Japanese think you are" that plays on the ridiculously over-the-top stereotypes Americans have in Japanese media.
The best part about Armstrong is that: he speaks about freedom like a libertarian, wants total control like a democrat, and is more patriotic to the cause than a republican.
@@geronimo5537 he'd honestly be a damn great president if he had someone to help him tone down the crazier parts of his ideas
@@geronimo5537What do you mean Democrats want total control? Republicans are the ones who keep talking about small government but then want to control everything from what a teacher is required to reveal to their students' parents to what a woman can do with her own body.
Grear video, and I love that you are taking Armstrong seriously. Although, I think that his ideas have much more validity than you are presenting here. While he is presented with overwhelming physical strength, he is also presented with overwhelming ideological strength, which makes his villainy so scary. He fully believes in absolute strength in every aspect. In his ideal America, people could absolutely be capable of committing atrocities but would be so morally strong that it would never cross their mind. By being so focused on only his combat prowess, you are underselling the rest of what makes him such a great villain.
And the best part? He still won, even though he died he accepted defeat and he passed his memes onto jack. Just like Sam, mistral, and monsoon.
As the song says “when our guard is down I think we’ll both agree, violence breeds violence but in the end it has to be this way”
Idealism is a comfy and pretty idea but it’s unrealistic, in the end the universe is cruel, power dictates truth and even though we want it to be different it has to be this way.
Even at the end scenes jack agrees with him in a way, if only quietly in his own mind.
The best part of Armstrong is that he appears right at the end and completely steals the show every second he's there. Truly a master class of a villain, his philosophy was also something you could agree with but also understand the means he used were where he went wrong, when he gets to the "Fuck american pride... Fuck everythingthing" in his speech we see that he believes in what he says and it's not a lie to him
his philosophy os also wrong in amd of itself: a world where might makes right is a world devoid of morals
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 I would say that Armstrong doesn't just believe in the purely physical "might makes right", as when he describes what he seems to view as strong and weak it tends to revolve around character, morals, principles, ideals, etc. He wants an America where those who are strong enough, intelligent enough, brave enough, or willful enough are able to do what they want to do or what they believe is right and just. His criticisms are about people lacking guiding principles of their own and not bothering to think about why they do the things they do. The real problem is that in Armstrong's America nobody else but him is actually going to follow or understand his values because it will be watered down and simplified. And, when he's gone it would just descend into total anarchy. The issue is not so much Armstrong himself, but rather that his ideals would lose their meaning once actually put into effect, because people would just use it to justify their own evils.
@@austinkersey2445 You haven't thought this through, whatsoever. You've still described might makes right, and Armstrong makes a point of this when referring to how Raiden took his life back into his own hands, in spite of his initial conditions limiting his ability to do so. As well, those with severe disabilities would never be strong enough, intelligent enough, nor literally willful enough to simply protect themselves against enemies who are more capable. They would effectively be euthanized en masse, because like Armstrong says, "people will die and kill for what they believe." It's infuriating how a series that inspired such emotion and sympathy over the conditions of war can have a fanbase that ultimately believes in war anyway. If I were Kojima, I couldn't be more heartbroken.
@@megamillion5852it is truly shocking and appalling to me how many people seem to unironically buy into all Armstrong's bullshit. He is an excellently written villain but he is a villain, vile and reprehensible. It is kind of terrifying that so many people fail to understand that he is wrong or why he is wrong.
Armstrong has the best final boss theme ever
Everytime I see Armstrong I can feel the patriotism
*Nationalism
@@nielsjensen4185 no. Patriotism
@@yeah_definitelysame difference
@@JohnBrown-tw2qi All shit.
@@JohnBrown-tw2qiNo there is a difference. Patriotism is loving your country and being loyal to it, nationalism is the belief of its superiority
22:46 you could say that about pretty much every character in MGR. The Winds of Destruction are all cyborgs with advanced custom bodies, Sam uses an exo suit to increase his strength and movement to stand up to cyborgs. Blade Wolf and the other robots didn't earn their strength, they didn't train, they were built with their weapons. Raiden himself is a cyborg, and after he got beaten by Sam, he got a new, more advanced body.
Heck, they even address this in a CODEC call about cyborgs in sports.
Everyone doesn't fully have their own strength, they just use expensive, high grade technology.
That is the same type of "cheating" you criticize Armstrong for.
yeah, I think critizing Armstrong for that misses the whole point of his character.
TBF, Sam before the exosuit, at a very young age took on an entire cartel who had automatic weapons and such... This was before his blade was turned into an HF blade...
SAM is effectively the perfect example of what Armstrong was talking about, and even after he lost his arm, was given another by Armstrong who could have killed him.
@@thebanditman5663 that is absolutely true.
Still, Sam used advanced technology to augment his skills during the events of Rising. He would still qualify as "cheating", according to the video
@@tinaherr3856 however this technology has in effect become commonplace now within society. Athletes with cybernetics are mentioned. It’s like phones. Once upon a time only the rich had them, not just because of expense, but because of limited supply, but tech evolved and now everyone can poses them with a little work.
In Rising, Sam has a single cyborg arm, and an outdated exosuit, but is a better swordsman than Jack because he was traditionally taught. Canonically Sam lost to Jack because Jack after his loss, continued to train, then of course gained access to his repressed ripper personality.
@@thebanditman5663 again, I don't disagree that Sam has skills before and beyond the tech he uses. I was saying that the video is wrong to say that using advanced tech is "cheating"
Your talk of building community and empathy during this was so so nice to hear
Armstrong having nanomachines doesn't lessen his ideals about strength, he had the opportunity to gain more power and he took it. Others would be able to gain cybernetics, just not the cutting edge stuff that Armstrong has. But if someone was skilled enough to steal the blueprints of those nanomachines, they would have the same power that Armstrong has. As we see with his death by Raiden's hands, he would hold no hard feelings for being taken out by someone who was stronger then him.
It really doesn’t matter what form that power takes. Look at Raiden. I think it just matters how you use that power. Again, like Raiden. And as to Armstrong’s ideology, I believe it’s less about the stronger person killing him, more that the person who kills him embodies his ideology that he’s content with. Raiden, for better or worse, proves Armstrong, at least to a point, that the truly strong can carve out a destiny for themselves, even if they choose to help those who don’t have the strength themselves, and they can kill to keep the “status quo” going. Might makes right.
@@acgearsandarms1343 also it implies that the status quo is not so great and raiden is fighting a lost cause yet refuses to do anything about it
@@HungVu-ec3jkWell doesn't Raiden go rogue at the end
@@Author_Paluthor Going rogue to carry out Armstrong mission. Not literally but come on he's basically doing that
Ain't even gonna lie, Senator Armstrong makes a lot of good points. There is some truth to what he says, whether it's that this country is rotten to the core, or that he says that people have no values, and all they care about is money, or when he says fuck all the media and internet bullshit. I love him and the plot to this game. It's so smart, truthful to an extent, and hilarious.
Except like the majority of people who tell you "fake news" and all that, he himself acknowledges he's a master user of all that rot and corruption. He engineered a social media campaign. How can he then denounce the media as being corrupt?
The man is a hippocrite. He claims he will abolish the very lever of power that allowed him to ascend. He wants to abolish war by waging war. He wants to reform the media by spreading lies and disinformation.
He wants to remove bureaucratic innefficiency for a libertarian dictatorship, one of the most self-eating power structure in history.
If the man is not a vile liar at the core, then hes just delusional.
Dude, all senator armstrong cares about is money lol
@@ArgonmentYTI don't think there's any way of knowing that considering a major part of his philosophy (with no evidence that he's lying) is cutting off the source of income he KNOWS to be absolute. Armstrong cares about some fucked up things but he's not all about the green.
@@ArgonmentYTno way in knowing that
@@ArgonmentYT the truth then he does need capital and votes wanna know why he has a dream
Something I love to relate to this fight is when buzz and woody fight in toy story. When riden uses Sam's sword because his sword is a "tool of justice" but Sam's isn't. It's like the part of toy story where buzz says "but we're not on my planet. Are we?"
I think an interesting detail in the Armstrong death scene is how Armstrong lies in front of Raiden, almost as if Armstrong is Raiden's own shadow. Paired with the dialogue from Armstrong, and it's pretty interesting. I also like how the camera moves upward to reveal Raiden standing above Armstrong.
That’s the beauty of it. They both want the same thing, just have a completely different way of achieving it
Honestly, I would love Solidus video, as he is often overlooked compared to other villains due to his nature being extension of Big Boss.
(And his boss fight cutscene being redone due to accidently predicting 9/11 just as it was about to come out, tying the theme of memes back around on itself)
@@couchpotato2222 It didn't predict 9/11. Arsenal Gear was meant to crash through the Statue of Liberty, not the Twin Towers. This was removed because Kojima didn't want to come off as insensitive.
@@jjtheenton*remembers ground zeroes*
Well..... Kojima got over being sensitive, apparently. Lol
The Man that wanted to defeat it's creators Just to me imortalised in The history books.
@@samfire3067
Tbf that was before everyone knew the US was a warmongering shithole responsible for the attacks themselves alongside funding judt about every terrorist organization on earth
Fuck sensitivity towards an evil empire
You said that no villain in this game is evil for the sake of being evil but thats sundowners whole character
So happy you‘re covering this villain.
The shadow of the protagonist trope is even more blatant in his death scene literally laying down in Raiden's shadow. It's great use of camera work to emphasize storytelling.
The fact hes the same voice actor as Mimir is hilarious
The nanomachines actually don't make Armstrong stronger, they just make his skin virtually impenetrable
You can't literally hit the gym hard enough to be able to lift a few thousand tons of the Excelsus' remains, or literally cause the ground to erupt in flames. The nanomachines did significantly more than just make him significantly more durable.
Even if they did, so what? Raiden is basically 99% augmented himself.
I would argue that the reveal that Armstrong is using nanomachines only heightens the deconstruction rather than cheapens it. As you pointed out, people who find Armstrong's ideals compelling are people who cannot or will not recognize that they have weaknesses. One of the most common beliefs among elites in society, especially American society, is that they earned their status through their hard work or superior skills/knowledge/smarts/etc while ignoring that most of the time, there was a lot of luck involved, usually what class they were born in. Likewise, Armstrong points to Raiden as an exemplar of his ideals, ignoring the fact that Raiden didn't have control of his own life for the majority of it. Even his nature as a cyborg and the strength that resulted was because of someone else's influence, not his.
The hypocrisy merely underlines just how flawed his viewpoint is. Social Darwinism claims to be about weeding out the weak, but all it really is are the privileged enforcing weakness upon the underprivileged to keep their position as the "strong". It merely creates more weakness, the exact opposite of the philosophy's stated goals.
Wow, I've yet to see this put so clearly and understandably. Well done.
I believe Armstrong meant PHYSICAL strength more than anything(not that I totally agree with him)
This is the part which flies over most folk's heads, those who invoke social darwinism understand neither darwin nor society, yet feel assured they'd stand as "winners" in the eyes of both.
Except strength isn't the absence of weakness. That's one of the very few things I disagree with in the whole analysis. Having weaknesses does not and has never meant not strong no one's perfect no one's strong and every single aspect. Being strong is just maximizing your strengths and minimizing your weakness. You can say swordsmanship is Armstrong's weakness but that doesn't mean he's weak.
(Being strong is the ability to do)
13:15 he would win election IRL singlehandedly with that speech.
Armstrong is truly insane but his charm and he saying what we think of bureocracy and similar crap might make us overlook that for a while. Such a memorable villain that steals the spotlight with mere minutes of showing up.
He is right about the bureaucrats being a huge problem. Think about how much the buraucracies of every institution in our lives have multiplied their sizes 300% or more in the last 2 decades. And how we keep inventing new ones to just give people with near useless degrees a job in an already oversatuated market for their major or education level. We are legislating and bureaucratizing away every aspect of our lives and free will. Giving those decisions up to a policy written by an "expert" with no experience in real life or any connection to you and your unique situation.
armstrong just appear at the end of the main game, and took the main character spot for a while
until he lets raiden have his spotlight back
the only reason raiden could be at the center of attention at the last cutscene is only because armstrong bowed out
he's great because he's gone before he could turn into a bad character, we want more of him but the devs know better than to make him stale
The fact that Armstrong is, at the end of the day, a dirty cheater and a hypocrite, is to me at least *perfect.* Of course the guy shouting about “We should all be free!” is only talking about himself. “We” to these people always, *always* actually means “I.”
Exactly. It's easy to spew rhetoric about "every man should be allowed to follow his own rules" when your a wealthy, manipulative, Nano enhanced monster. He only has the guts to talk so confidentially about because he feels (and for a large part IS) indestructible
What if he was used as a reskin for TF2's "VS. Saxton Hale" mode?
Raiden sums it up quite well: "You're not greedy.... you're batshit insaaaaaane!!!"
Edit to extrapolate: Over my last thirty-odd years, watching the internet grow from sapling to the gnarled husk we know it as today, I've seen my fair share of hard libertarian types, especially when crypto became the big interest for them. It seems the harder line you go past 'a man's freedom only ends by another man's fist' the more you realize a lot of these turbo-libertarians for some reason think you can simultaneously live in a universe where they're on top and yet also sell it how everyone else can, while also with a bit of squinting realizing that the type of life and mindsets they're often wishing for sounds suspiciously like being the top of the feudalism totem pole.
Armstrong's not immune to this either of course, his views are a hyper-focused might make right sort of libertarianism, but well, look at the man! I'd seriously argue and debate how much of his philosophy is just part of a twisted form of bloodlust, something that is kinda another theme of MG:R in general considering how many of the other stories are some level of 'how does the rest of the cast cope with being mass murderers?'
It does weaken his relatability. Since yeah, its obvious now he will rule the utopia of shit that he would create. But as you stated, yeah it makes so much sense, because we see this all the time. People with power framing a change as beneficial for everyone, when in reality, its only because it benefits them, you'll never see the benefit of that change.
That's not much of a realization, he even says it himself. His goal is the total freedom of the individual and the natural, evolutionary survival of the fittest. Screw communism and capitalism, anarchy is the way to go.
One of the coolest parts of that game is at the end when Raiden is standing over Armstrong. The sun is on his back, which means that Armstrong is positioned directly inside of Raiden's shadow. This further cements Armstrong's final words when he said he was leaving Raiden as his successor, because in that one image, Armstrong is literally residing inside of Raiden's shadow - the dark part of the protagonist's otherwise noble philosophy.
It's scary how often this franchise predicts the future.
2:23 “The game has antagonists where none of them are killing for the sake of killing. None of whom are evil the sake of being evil.”
Sundowner: “Allow me to introduce myself.”
Even then, Sundowner thinks Violence is as pure and natural as love itself. Red Sun puts it the best I think;
"Only Love is with us now,
Something warm and pure
Violence breeds within ourselves (Or find the peace within ourselves idk)
No need for a cure."
Each is flawed but each believes they are just. Each a possible future for Ryden and in turn the player and each a criticism if the main character through acting as a foil
nah he just loves miners
Great breakdown.
I genuinely believe that someone grandiose like Armstrong that spouts Nationalism and Individual Strength complimenting community (like you said) would dominate American Culture for the next 100 years. The idealism from the Founding Fathers and call for an united America from Lincoln are literally the basis for everything Americans believe. They all spouted Freedom as being the ultimate ideal.
Side note: Abraham Lincoln was SO instrumental to America's Unity we have one of our biggest and most famous Monuments dedicated to the man in our Capital. I swear the air around that place feels different.
Except Lincoln wanted national unity, not anarchy born of "every person for themselves". Lincoln also advocated the emancipation of blacks--"the weak" of the society, which Armstrong wanted to purge. Trust me. when you look deeper, Armstrong is just a madman, fallen into his own hype.
Teddy Roosevelt?
Rule of Law is one of the most important principles of America and liberal democracies in general. Rule of Law if fundamentally incompatible with a society "Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around".
@@ElBandito said it good ty
Didn't expect a deconstruction of this character. A nice surprise.
this man encapsulates what i love about metal gear rising, it manages to be ridiculous and over-the-top, yet somehow use that to deliver really interesting and deep takes and themes, the writing is just amazing in this game
"out-americaning the irl politicians" is the crazy version of out-pizzaing the hut
I love how Max0r changed much of the dialogue in his videos on MGR but Armstrong's ideals are kept intact. 😂
I'm glad to see Raiden managed to touch Armstrong's heart in the end.
😂😂😂😂
That’s because Raiden is a fan of heartfelt endings
Senator Armstrong is the good deconstraction of the villian is because he is honest and not a viliian if you wathing on his deeds. If Stiven Armstrong was a true villian as a Homelander of some freak, he will not so merciful to the Sam and Raiden and he has a other purpors not like a true villian, that want Power and money(for power). Stiven Armstrong is the best the personification of a politician who cannot talk about his dream, because he could be considered a fascist. And with Raiden he saying true because he know, that he would be agreed with him, deep inside.
Fun fact: Armstrong was voiced by Alastair Duncan, the same guy who voiced Mimir in the 2 recent God of War games
First time I heard that it sounded insane, now after hearing it so many times I can hear it.
Especially in the first line
He also voiced Celebrimbor in Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War! That guy is an absolute legend
I like Mimir a lot more as character. He is wise and kind and chill.
Armstrong was fun to have as a nemesis, but I was glad to kill him.
Everyone has weakness, but not everyone is weak
Weak are purged, more weak appear relative to the new situation
I cant believe this video was like 25 minutes of just mgr clips and 5 minutes of actual dialogue from the creator
but im here for it
i would vote for armstrong just because he doesnt look like he could drop dead at any moment
Sometimes you want 'em on death's door. Opens up the floor for your actual guy.