Killers are all around us, at all times. Anywhere you go, there they are. I've talked to and lived right next to people that have killed other people. You probably would have no idea until the day you find out.
Yeah very chilling, the guy testifying must have had a bad vibe from the killer as refused to help with a ride. Sometimes it’s just an instinct to think this person isn’t right trust your intuition
Coward. The fact that he’s putting his hands over his ears, not listening to the damage he done to students gives me chills. He deserves the worst punishment possible
The way he looked at the defendant was so incredibly strong. You could feel his anger and his fearlessness. His eyes said so much without saying a word. He was waiting for that moment for a long time and I'm glad he was able to have it.
Well majority the kids he kill were good looking popular kids that bullied him and rest of the ugly ones just got in the way and weren’t meant to be killed I’m sure..
Someone hurts your sister and all you can think about is 🤔” hmmm I wonder how good of a stare down it would be with that guy”. No he’s waiting for his moment 🤫 not a stare down!
@@dajourtaylor3643 yeah you don't get it, he can't obviously hurt him. Seeing him in person and looking him in the eye and letting him know that he doesn't scare him, without saying a word is incredibly powerful. It takes courage to do that
@@Michelle-dl5go I UNDERSTAND but, for something in my life along with a lot of others it’s done onna regular whenever to whomever, so I guess I’m Superman with balls of steel /full of courage and not just him ……….
Smart kid. In the video- He got up and moved shortly after suspect sat down. He kept physical distance when outside and didn’t turn his back on the suspect. He denied the ride even though he usually wouldn’t do such a thing. His instincts were spot on.
@@jmorales6539 I second that. When you feel something is fishy gut feeling primes, always, even if you end up wrong in the end. Better safe than sorry.
Thank God he didn’t agree to giving him a ride. Insanely chilling to think what could’ve happened. And for him to be completely unaware he was sitting across from a murderer; the guy that shot his sister! Mind blowing.
It's almost like Cruz is trapped in time. All his surviving classmates have gone on with their lives and are growing into young and responsible adults and he is still the small, pitiful and whimpy child he was when he caused this tragedy.
Actually crazy enough Cruz was the exact same age as John here- both were/are 19 turning 20 He chose to kill innocent people and John decided to actually do something with himself
It's people like you calling kids whimpy and bullying them that earns you a bullet in the head. Respect people regardless of how they look because they may have the balls to do something about it one day
Imagine.. you’re shaken from being told to evacuate campus. You can’t reach your loved ones from school, and now some weirdo is trying to cop a ride from you in McDonald’s. Then you find out your sister was shot 4 times and the creep talking to you is the boy who shot her at school… I can’t even phathom…
I know. It's unimaginable. You can still see and hear his disgust for Cruz, rightfully so. Cruz displayed the same type of behavior as a serial killer. He has no remorse. He went back to the scene, and surrounding area, so he could watch the drama and interact with victims. Once caught, he tried to pretend he was crazy. He is continuing his antics in the courtroom. I'm glad Mr. Wilford said he did not know him and never met him. That's the best way to torture a narcissistic psychopath.
That look he gave him after identifying him in court was powerful!! The anguish he must live in thinking about the ‘what ifs’., and the gratefulness he didn’t offer him a ride.
When I was his age I was excited to be starting college, getting my first real girlfriend, experiencing life, etc. It's wild, last thing on my mind was mass murder. It's sad so many kids these days are so frustrated and feel the need to act out this way. social media and the way the modern dating marketplace works has a lot to do with it. smh
@@datura_boof hey man in the last 50 years there have been 3x more deaths by lightning than deaths by school shootings. Kids today are fine they have to worry more about lightning.
I can not believe someone that just shot his sister sat down with him. I can't even imagine what feelings he had when he found out. That look he gave him is full of pure hatred and it is totally understandable. Although his sister is alive she is not okay and my heart hurts for them.
@@MegaTinni are you talking about John Wilford? What does him being able to walk home have to do with anything? Do you realize he was only a Freshman and couldn’t find his sister Maddy who was seriously injured by N.C.? No one knew at the time that NC was the shooter or where the shooter was. Maybe his mom wanted him to stay in a safer place than the side of the road. I could go on but I’m going to stop here.
Indeed. If looks could kill moment. I hope all of them get the help they need. Guy was in Gr. 9 when he started and now he's in college. Should be having the time of his life (as all the victims should be - going to uni, meeting new people, first girlfriend/boyfriend, milestones...all taken away. Those teachers who lost their lives, should be teaching and mentoring students. It is all so heart breaking. I hope this pos gets what he deserves.
It's very bizarre that the psychopath would go and sit in a booth with a random stranger when the entire restaurant is open... Just speaks to his mentality. He recognized a student and wanted to see what he knew or what he could glean off of his behavior...he wanted to gloat. He's cruel and sadistic.
I was about to say. If a stranger came and plopped down at my table I'd be like "I'm sorry, have we met? Can I help you?" That's just not normal behavior.
the shooter was trying to get a ride from the student so he could escape from the scene... which proves that the killer was completely sane and knew what he had done.
This is the dude who pretended to be insane in interrogation, but casually got an ICEE and mcdonalds after killing 17 people? Who does he think he's fooling? They're gonna give him the death penalty for sure
How does the two correlate? If anything being able to kill then enjoy your food casually shows lack of remorse which points more to someone being insane lol.
I've been noticing him also and wondered who he was the parent of. I just researched it this morning to find out. Also the couple sitting near the front that are always comforting each other and look so grief stricken, I think she is the sister of one of the teachers that was killed because her maiden name is the same as his.
Wow, just realized that is the brother of the girl who was shot 4 times. That family is so very lucky, she survived and the brother was sitting right next to the shooter. Prayers that the whole family will be well.
I can't believe the number of idiots here. "Why would he sit next to him? They know each other!" He sat with him because he knew that if it looked like he was with someone, the police were less likely to single him out. That would be even more true if he got in the car with the guy and his mom. The killer was quite cunning. Secondly, they CLEARLY do not know each other. The body language says it all.
@@traption4617 they had both been at Walmart. MAYBE Cruz heard him calling his mom, asking for a ride and telling her that he would meet her at McDonald’s. Maybe Cruz followed him from a distance because Cruz walked into McDonald’s shortly after the kid sat down. It’s like he knew exactly where to sit and with whom. Cruz knew this was a kid from school and he would blend in, plus Cruz needed a ride. How would a freshman know someone who set to graduate way before they were even in the school, yall are ridiculous, him nor his sister knew him.
The way he looked at the killer, oh man. Made me cry. Aside from the incredibly deep damage this killer makes the parents of the deceased children feel every single day, that killer is the reason why this kid’s sister went into surgery three times, too. And why she has permanent damage to her lung. She was unconscious from having been shot, that’s why she wasn’t picking up his calls.
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 lol ur wrong, bruh just look at the vid when he's getting an icee from subway. u see it very clear in one of the angles.
Watching this live the look this man gave that boy when asked to identify him literally gave me chills. The unspoken words behind that glare. So powerful. Unbelievably proud of every single survivor telling their story.
If looks could beat tf out of you....... Dude would be laying on the floor badly beaten within an inch of his life. Death is too easy for him. He needs to have to live with the thoughts of horror from what he did just like the families he destroyed. SMH I know this feeling firsthand. You can't get it out of your head, you can only try to keep pushing without someone that meant everything to you. You are never ok with it...... NEVER
@@kimalonzo3363 no she actually had testified she was shot 4 times. I think he video clip says student that was shot 4 times testifies. I didn't notice on the day she testified her brother was there.
@@kimalonzo3363 No, miraculously she survived even though she was found unconscious, not breathing, and without a pulse by police and paramedics. Her name is Madeleine Wilford. She'd been hit in the lung, abdomen and arm. She's moving on with her life now. She's a strong survivor! 💪
Willysnowman I’m not a fan of the NRA, but no they don’t support his right to own a firearm. He’s committed crimes that prevent him from doing so. The NRA is simply saying that you don’t get to steal the rights of hundreds of millions of people just because a couple of them do horrible things.
That look in his eyes when he identifies him. Very powerful. You can see the rage & grief & contempt. And rightfully so. Must feel at least a little satisfying to be able to point that little punk out.
So creepy how he just came and sat down right there, and then got up to follow! I'm ao thankful he didn't give him a ride! What a cold blooded piece of 💩
This is so terribly eerie. I cannot imagine how these families feel. How the survivors must feel. This didn't only kill students that day, it killed students and parents afterward. The shockwaves are still happening.
They feel great about it. Every day they wake up and smile, thinking about how wonderful and enjoyable life is on a daily basis, and what good hearted magnificent creatures people are
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Jesus, man. Why the need to make this so political? Also, I assume you're referring to the "democrat deep state"- there's no such thing as leftist fascists. That's antithetical to what the left end of the political spectrum means..
The pixelation is easier to push it as being cruise or whoever they want it to be that’s why they got this guy saying he was there with him but it’s not all that he was sitting alone not ordering food at McDonald’s but somehow he was meeting up with cruise like 10 minutes before you was found unconscious face down on the side the road🙄
Its not about robbing its probably about catching slackers or intimidating them. Companies all want video but they all want to go to Walmart and get a complete system for 500 bucks. With cameras you very much get what you pay for.
There's no such thing as a better place.. you were lied to all along.. Once you're gone,you simply no longer exist.. you become food to termites, maggots, soil and bacteria..
@@missvegasable In the video the witness said Cruz had a ROTC uniform on and there’s no one wearing a ROTC uniform. I think all these kids are put up to do these things. Don’t you care that there could be something bigger than what we imagine? Don’t forget that Branded Lee was shot while filming a movie. Someone put a real bullet in the gun and no one knows who until this day.
This is blood freezing, knowing that the killer sat right in front of him even though there was so much space around. That is rude. He even walked after him and asked for a ride again. Thank god he refused to do it.
He sat right next to him cause he was just trying to fit in & distance himself from the situation . I bet he thought if he sat next to him then others would think they were together so they wouldn’t suspect anything weird .
I can't imagine being a high school freshman that finds later that day he had shared a booth (and almost car ride) with the psychopath who had just attempted to murder his sister, succeeding in 17 deaths... I hope Mr. Wilford gets good therapy and support, this moment on film is certain to haunt him for life.
This was creepy to watch. It looked almost like he was intentionally following and looking for this witness. Good thing they didn't give him a ride. No telling what may have happened.
You could see the anger in that kids face when he pointed that piece of garbage out in the court room. The next person who ever harms his sister better know how to run fast...
Some people are so evil, they don't even deserve a trial. I can't believe how much young people are capable of the most horrific crimes. This is absolutely unbelievable, to see your self, sitting next to the monster who just shot your sister.
Everybody deserves a trail. What gets me is that the trial is public. They should not give out this monsters name or the details of his crime so that the next copycat monsters that are nobody can become somebody. The kid he sat with didn't even know him and now everybody knows him he is famous now.
It shouldn’t amaze me, but it still does. This monster just killed children and he just goes about his day afterwards. Even bought an ICEE. I have no words, just a horrible person.
@@codegolfer well the ppl who want him to live are the ones not reacting to his crimes but more explaining how they feel ab capital punishment in my opinion. That classic philosophical difference in opinion on the death penalty.
If the mother had given the kid a ride the police might not have caught him when they did. They caught him because he was on foot and matched the description being put out. How horrifying that would have been for the mother to find out she had helped by giving a ride to the monster that shot her daughter.
are you saying that the guy in the stands's sister was shot too? he even laughed at one point when asked about that table meeting. u can check. very weird behavior. why did he come to his table? they must 've known each other
True, but even if he got home, by ride or foot, it was just a matter of time before arrest. He had no plan or means of escape, and the evidence points at him directly. Identified as a student by other students after the shooting during escape. Identified clearly as shooter on multiple cameras. Police CAN face scan. He had no chance of evasion.
i’m so glad his sister survived its chilling to unknowingly sit beside the person that shoots your loved one but the person that KILLS them is so much darker and i dont think i could process it
Sending love and Hug's to all the those sitting in this court room. This has been hard to take in. The pain is unreal and you can see it on everyone's faces..💞💞💞
My mom was driving my sister to an orthodontist appointment when the massacre was about to start. She says she remembers seeing a face like his in the car. She says that she could’ve stopped a shooting if she had known, she says she would have crashed into that car if it would stop it or at least delay it. Parents will do anything to protect children, theirs or not. ❤️
@@MrBacon-ou1kw i’m literally not. i live in the exact town and plus i don’t even know if my mom actually saw him, i wasn’t there, it was my sister and mom
I noticed that it appears the "kids" (now adults of course) who are testifying seem to stay in the room afterwards in what appears to be support for the others who are coming into testify. Whether they want it or not, these kids and teachers and parents are bonded for life. It's certainly a bond that nobody is looking for or wants, but it's there none the less. I hope they're able to. continue to be a support and strength for each other over the years to come. I will say, the kids from this school seem to be quite intelligent and well spoken.
So many layers to the creation of this monster of a human....definitely a great example of how many opportunities to prevent this outcome were ignored. I hope at the very least we can learn from this and raise awareness on behaviors' that should NOT be ignored in children, and young adults. What an absolute tragedy in various ways.
Especially when the devil is often not who we think it is, in this case who would think that a harmless appearing boy like him would commit such atrocious act...
Unfortunately he was adopted and both his parents were dead so can't really blame parenting. And mental help can only do so much. He was on meds and stopped taking them. Unless people with mental issues like that are monitored 24/7 there is nothing that can be done short of a lobotomy.
He’s trying to blend in his surroundings so they couldn’t catch him. He’s pretending he’s got friends. He probably heard this guy talking to his mother. Obviously, not insane.
He said Cruz had a ROTC uniform on and there’s no one in the video with that uniform anywhere. I think Cruz is the fall guy and is most likely threatened. If he did dot the shooting he really got very fast to McDonalds and didn’t get to do the rest of the shootings. I could be wrong
Kids go to school to learn. Such a sad world that they would experience such terror again and again. I'm finally a parent and this is truly one of my greatest fears.
Imagine sitting next to the man who 15 minutes prior just shot your sister 4 times (lived) the same person your trying to call then has the audacity to ask for a fing ride. Something makes me wonder if he knew they were related.
Uhhh no Cruz would have no idea where this kid was or going to be And Cruz, after the shooting, probably didn't have an exact escape route. Since he blended in with the students Was random Don't make stuff up...smh
You ever wonder why we actually have any trials to begin with. The nerve of his lawyer to even object to anything. You know they dont even want to be there defending him
Absolutely disgusting the jury did not hand down the death penalty for him today. They have let down EVERY victim along with their friends and family by not doing so. He is a cold, calculated killer Plain and Simple.
@katherine mullany I can see where you're coming from but if he's killed then he's set free. Free from all the feelings of what he's done and free from all the things locking him up for life is denying him from.
I think it’s exceptionally odd that out of all empty seats and tables, he gets into THAT seat…but also you can see him confidently walk to that table like it was planned destination
exactly!!! i also want to point out a fragment of the video where he had a smile when asked about what happened when he came to his table: watch his duping delight smile 3:46
He looked like someone too excited to share what he just did, which is the power of god to decide who gets to live and die. Except that he had no friends to do so, probably hence why he sat next to the first kid he saw at the Mcdonalds, too high on power, but sadly too low on awareness of what he just did.
Cruz probably saw the kid walk in and followed him. The witness mentioned a school uniform so it'd be easy to spot students if their all dressed in uniforms. Cruz probably got some kind of sociopathic thrill doing that.
@@jimskeuh what's up with these wild conspiracy theories, I just thought he sat next to him because he knew it would be less suspicious then if he was sitting alone
Cheap franchise owners who haven't invested a cent in their business since it was built. I dont think they even make new cameras that are this terrible.
I have felt the same suicidality and mental torment of a mass murderer like the dude on trial here but I don't have the psychology to turn the feelings outward to harm or threaten other parties. Selfhatred and self-disappointment to the extent of praying for my own death in a quiet, undramatic, fittingly solitary way. I must still care about my own survival because at least I find the means to put words to the emotions. I can find space to choose to feel another way and trick my mind away from dwelling on dark impulses. My empathy to the rest of you who may feel filled with a sense of weakness, lack of confidence, failure, anxiety and dread
An 18 year old Cruz , saw a 14,15 year old and honed in on him and was still awkward "thank goodness " and hoped to find a way into a car with his family..that's freaking scary.. really really scary because kids usually trust other kids and want to help
Hearing from the kids that were in school that day is heartbreaking, and then you remember that a sitting member of congress has targeted and harassed the survivors.
It's creepy that Cruz walked straight to him, even though he entered through a different door and the booth was semi-covering Wilford. Was Wilford being followed?!
Can you imagine , how close that family could have been from taking the shooter in their car?! I always tell my kids if you have a gut feeling, go with it
It is a sad world we live in that these innocent children are forced to relive their trauma to convince the world that the murderer deserves to rot. I am so disgusted by this tragedy. It is pitiful to have to say you are proud of children for being strong through these things... may god rest easy the innocent souls lost that Valentine's Day and forever protect all affected.
@@Mufasa.43 he doesn’t need a weapon to hold them hostage. Police can only do so much when theirs innocent bistandards involved. Also, how much of a wimp can he be when he killed innocent kids?
This young man was wise beyond his years. He felt something was gf and avoided that POS as much as possible!! There should be no plea deals or life in prison. There should be a brief trial then a meeting with a rope and a tall fall.
He admitted to the crime years ago. But they have to do the trial and they have to make sure everything is lock and key tight so his lawyers can’t get him back out. I know the wait sucks but if the goal is to keep this guy off the streets for the rest of his life then we have to wait for trial
With big cases like this they really want to squeeze every single drop of detail that could lead to an extra minute in jail time or a foot in the door for the death penalty; he has still been in jail but this is defiantly just to see if he can get the death penalty and not some insanity plea or whatever life.
@David Munir they are trying to determine whether or not they can legally take his life, and I fully hope they do. That's what took so long. There are plenty of dirt bags who wait ten plus years being housed and fed before getting Capital punishment
Come to think about it.. they had both been at Walmart. MAYBE Cruz heard him calling his mom, asking for a ride and telling her that he would meet her at McDonald’s. Maybe Cruz followed him from a distance because Cruz walked into McDonald’s shortly after the kid sat down. It’s like he knew exactly where to sit and with whom. Cruz knew this was a kid from school and he would blend in, plus Cruz needed a ride. Then Cruz actually asked for a ride. Thankfully it was denied. Cruz is very calculating, so I don’t doubt that he followed him from Walmart, which is where Cruz went after leaving the school and bought a slushy- I heard the prosecutor talking about it, on a previous video regarding this case. I’m just speculating, but they had both been at Walmart and both walked to McDonald’s and entered McDonald’s around the same time.
@@Amanda-nt7tt deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand
Ugh I can’t even imagine finding out later that the guy sitting in front of you murdered 17 kids and tried to kill your sibling. Chilling. Good job my man. Way to stare that coward down at the end.
A similar theme that I continue to pick of from school protocol is that they don’t have a special alarm for not fire, or extreme emergencies. That way the students know the possible severity of the situation and can act accordingly to try and save his or her own life.. instead of always assuming that it is a routine fire drill and waiting scared like sitting ducks
Well I'm sure that is going to change in the future, these things take time. Please don't forget that these school shootings are still very much new to this generation and we are just getting new protocols and still put in place. plus every state and school district is different.
That he could act so casual after murdering people is beyond me. It reminds me of the three cops that murdered Elijah McClain (along with the paramedics) and went back to the scene to take photos of themselves. There's a great sickness in many people in this country.
How erie that this kid didn’t even know he just got done shooting his sister. I’m sure he wishes he knew in that moment so he can do her and those other kids justice.
BEING KIND, FRIENDLY, NICE to sociopaths does NOTHING but put your safety at greater risk... if someone is OFF... KINDNESS DOES NOT FIX THEM... in fact sociopaths, narcissists, etc. consider being nice to be A SIGN OF WEAKNESS and that makes you an easy to victim in their book. We need to teach eachother about THE SIGNS OF ANTISOCIAL and ABUSIVE PERSONALITY DISORDERED INDIVIDUALS... they are always dangerous to others' wellbeing. Doing harm to get what they want WORKS SO WELL.,.. they have no boundaries... they will do whatever it takes to WIN, get their way or punish other's for getting in their way. They will destroy people emotionally and physically... it is who they are and what they do. They have zero remorse, just more anger when they are challenged by being told NO. they suffer from frustration of not being feared enough and having to work too hard for something... they expect reverence and appeasement.
As someone with narcissistic tendencies, you hit it right on the nose. Most of it stems from extreme lack of self confidence and esteem. The behaviors we present are a coping mechanism of sorts. We get depressed when we don't get enough attention and reverence. My therapist is helping me find healthy ways of using my tendencies (i.e. Using my extreme want of attention and reverence to work harder towards my goals, so that my accomplishments actually warrant the attention I seek). I wouldn't go as far to say that all narcissistic individuals are bad per say, but in general, I agree that we are worse off then neural-typical folk.
The witness said he was wearing a ROTC uniform and there’s no one in the video with one at all. Cruz could be the fall guy and is most likely threatened. I could be wrong
That's very chilling to have the person who's responsible for all the chaos to come up & sit right next to you without you even knowing it. 😬
Also the person responsible for almost killing his sister.
Killers are all around us, at all times. Anywhere you go, there they are. I've talked to and lived right next to people that have killed other people. You probably would have no idea until the day you find out.
@@lovesky7235 almost? She survived?
@@HateTheIRS Yeah the sister testified before him. Shot four times while hiding behind a desk.
Yeah very chilling, the guy testifying must have had a bad vibe from the killer as refused to help with a ride. Sometimes it’s just an instinct to think this person isn’t right trust your intuition
Coward. The fact that he’s putting his hands over his ears, not listening to the damage he done to students gives me chills. He deserves the worst punishment possible
Death penalty
I agree!
true , lock him in a room with nothing in it and play re runs on a loop of the view now thats punishment
Tie he's hands behind his back make him listen
He's probably doing that to show remorse to the juri, as instructed by his lawyers.
The way he looked at the defendant was so incredibly strong. You could feel his anger and his fearlessness. His eyes said so much without saying a word. He was waiting for that moment for a long time and I'm glad he was able to have it.
Well majority the kids he kill were good looking popular kids that bullied him and rest of the ugly ones just got in the way and weren’t meant to be killed I’m sure..
Someone hurts your sister and all you can think about is 🤔” hmmm I wonder how good of a stare down it would be with that guy”.
No he’s waiting for his moment 🤫 not a stare down!
@@dajourtaylor3643 yeah you don't get it, he can't obviously hurt him. Seeing him in person and looking him in the eye and letting him know that he doesn't scare him, without saying a word is incredibly powerful. It takes courage to do that
@@Michelle-dl5go I UNDERSTAND but, for something in my life along with a lot of others it’s done onna regular whenever to whomever, so I guess I’m Superman with balls of steel /full of courage and not just him ……….
@@dajourtaylor3643 well we're talking about him and his moment why down play that? that's sad.. hoping for happiness in your life
Smart kid. In the video- He got up and moved shortly after suspect sat down. He kept physical distance when outside and didn’t turn his back on the suspect. He denied the ride even though he usually wouldn’t do such a thing. His instincts were spot on.
Always trust your gut.
Yeah that was the first thing that stuck out to me, that he never turned his back to him. Cruz’s body language was kind of “imposing” outside too
they knew each other. the suspect ran directly to his table. plenty of empty tables to sit.
@@jmorales6539 I second that. When you feel something is fishy gut feeling primes, always, even if you end up wrong in the end. Better safe than sorry.
@@jimskeuh they didn't know each other. Sitting with someone was protection and company which they both needed at that same time, but only one chose
Thank God he didn’t agree to giving him a ride. Insanely chilling to think what could’ve happened. And for him to be completely unaware he was sitting across from a murderer; the guy that shot his sister! Mind blowing.
You mean like how you bomb innocent countries all the time and then you support it? That kind of mind blowing?
did his sister die?
@@adamsavage2646 barely survived
He was no longer armed
@@adamsavage2646 no
It's almost like Cruz is trapped in time. All his surviving classmates have gone on with their lives and are growing into young and responsible adults and he is still the small, pitiful and whimpy child he was when he caused this tragedy.
I think he's hoping for the death penalty personally. I don't see how he'd want to live with all that guilt.
Actually crazy enough Cruz was the exact same age as John here- both were/are 19 turning 20
He chose to kill innocent people and John decided to actually do something with himself
Just an act. Don’t allow him to fool you. The guy chillin’ after killing 17 people is the real him.
His mind has been compartmentalized. 🙃 📎
It's people like you calling kids whimpy and bullying them that earns you a bullet in the head. Respect people regardless of how they look because they may have the balls to do something about it one day
Imagine.. you’re shaken from being told to evacuate campus. You can’t reach your loved ones from school, and now some weirdo is trying to cop a ride from you in McDonald’s. Then you find out your sister was shot 4 times and the creep talking to you is the boy who shot her at school… I can’t even phathom…
Alright I’ll do it. I’ll be the one. Fathom*
@@Jukelikesgames okay I'll be the one that busts down the door, there is no * in fathom 🖕
I know. It's unimaginable. You can still see and hear his disgust for Cruz, rightfully so. Cruz displayed the same type of behavior as a serial killer. He has no remorse. He went back to the scene, and surrounding area, so he could watch the drama and interact with victims. Once caught, he tried to pretend he was crazy. He is continuing his antics in the courtroom. I'm glad Mr. Wilford said he did not know him and never met him. That's the best way to torture a narcissistic psychopath.
@@Jukelikesgames - You’re doing the Lord’s work here.
Its Fathom actually.
Stunning how he’s staring down the defendant. Speaks a million words.
That look he gave him after identifying him in court was powerful!! The anguish he must live in thinking about the ‘what ifs’., and the gratefulness he didn’t offer him a ride.
Absolutely!!! I was thinking the same exact thing!!!
Yup, like he like to be the one to flip the switch🫡
A lot of anger and contempt in that look…
When I was his age I was excited to be starting college, getting my first real girlfriend, experiencing life, etc. It's wild, last thing on my mind was mass murder. It's sad so many kids these days are so frustrated and feel the need to act out this way. social media and the way the modern dating marketplace works has a lot to do with it. smh
@@datura_boof hey man in the last 50 years there have been 3x more deaths by lightning than deaths by school shootings. Kids today are fine they have to worry more about lightning.
I can not believe someone that just shot his sister sat down with him. I can't even imagine what feelings he had when he found out. That look he gave him is full of pure hatred and it is totally understandable. Although his sister is alive she is not okay and my heart hurts for them.
So shouldn’t have been executed by now? He got to decide someone else’s fate!
@@kingvonasenteredthegulag3705 Whats your point?
@@MoonClawx probably that shes getting paid but idk
@@kingvonasenteredthegulag3705 i’m sure she’d rather have her lungs work but ok 🤷♂️
@@kingvonasenteredthegulag3705 Money doesn't solve everything.
Isn’t it crazy how places in 2018 and even to this day STILL have terrible surveillance cameras?
You should see the 2015 Dylann Roof interrogation. It’s as if they were still using VHS back then
What a mature well spoken young man. So thankful he did not give him a ride. May God bless him.
Look at his body language. He obviously knew who Nicholas Cruz was.
I was also a freshman when this happened 😕😕so sad. Some people are so sick and weird… the fact he shot kids and then asked for a ride..
True, but looking at that map, he could have walked home easily.
@@MegaTinni he wanted a car to drive away not go home
@@MegaTinni are you talking about John Wilford? What does him being able to walk home have to do with anything? Do you realize he was only a Freshman and couldn’t find his sister Maddy who was seriously injured by N.C.? No one knew at the time that NC was the shooter or where the shooter was. Maybe his mom wanted him to stay in a safer place than the side of the road. I could go on but I’m going to stop here.
What a lovely, young man. I love that he held eye contact when Cruz looked up at him. Turned his intimidation around on the monster.
Indeed. If looks could kill moment. I hope all of them get the help they need. Guy was in Gr. 9 when he started and now he's in college. Should be having the time of his life (as all the victims should be - going to uni, meeting new people, first girlfriend/boyfriend, milestones...all taken away. Those teachers who lost their lives, should be teaching and mentoring students. It is all so heart breaking. I hope this pos gets what he deserves.
He went to McDonald’s knowing that he’s gonna meet cruz he didn’t order any food at McDonald’s but that’s not suspicious to you...
@@lastlime3792 his mom was picking him up there did you even watch the video?
@@Newjerseyblows his testimony didn’t match up...did you watch and listen to the video🤔.
@@lastlime3792 uh yes it did
What a strong young man. He did that for all the victims and especially his sister!
It's very bizarre that the psychopath would go and sit in a booth with a random stranger when the entire restaurant is open... Just speaks to his mentality. He recognized a student and wanted to see what he knew or what he could glean off of his behavior...he wanted to gloat. He's cruel and sadistic.
I was about to say. If a stranger came and plopped down at my table I'd be like "I'm sorry, have we met? Can I help you?" That's just not normal behavior.
Its the culture he was raised in
@@vladtepes9614 I think he wasn't even thinking or reacting normally as he was worried about his sister.
the shooter was trying to get a ride from the student so he could escape from the scene... which proves that the killer was completely sane and knew what he had done.
The entire restaurant may have been open but that was the guy he picked to ask for a ride. I don't think it's anymore complicated than that.
This is the dude who pretended to be insane in interrogation, but casually got an ICEE and mcdonalds after killing 17 people? Who does he think he's fooling? They're gonna give him the death penalty for sure
When recordings of the incident have been played in court the little runt has covered his ears.
@@geoffpoole483 Coward. He knows what he did was wrong and still did it, never thought he'd get in trouble for it.
How does the two correlate? If anything being able to kill then enjoy your food casually shows lack of remorse which points more to someone being insane lol.
So he clearly is insane 🤣
You don’t know anything about mental illness
I feel so bad for these children. May they be able to cope with this trauma someday.
The grey-haired man in the blue jacket is so full of grief it spills out on me. His face will show this pain for the rest of his life.
That is Alex Schachter’s father.
how can he not grieve for his cute son Alex if I'm sad for him and I don't know him. just from his pic I can tell he's so cute in soul and body.
Looks like Pierce Brosnan
I've been noticing him also and wondered who he was the parent of. I just researched it this morning to find out. Also the couple sitting near the front that are always comforting each other and look so grief stricken, I think she is the sister of one of the teachers that was killed because her maiden name is the same as his.
Who?
Wow, just realized that is the brother of the girl who was shot 4 times. That family is so very lucky, she survived and the brother was sitting right next to the shooter. Prayers that the whole family will be well.
I’m glad his sister was able to survive. What a scary situation…
I’m so happy to hear his sister survived I can’t even fathom how terrified him and his sister were
And he asked him for a ride home. Imagine if his sister was in the same car as the person who shot her. Very clever decision to say no.
I can't believe the number of idiots here. "Why would he sit next to him? They know each other!" He sat with him because he knew that if it looked like he was with someone, the police were less likely to single him out. That would be even more true if he got in the car with the guy and his mom. The killer was quite cunning. Secondly, they CLEARLY do not know each other. The body language says it all.
Facts
Definitely can tell by the body language…
Doubt that, he knew he'd get caught regardless. Everyone at school would be able to identify him. They obviously knew eachother.
@@traption4617 they had both been at Walmart. MAYBE Cruz heard him calling his mom, asking for a ride and telling her that he would meet her at McDonald’s. Maybe Cruz followed him from a distance because Cruz walked into McDonald’s shortly after the kid sat down. It’s like he knew exactly where to sit and with whom. Cruz knew this was a kid from school and he would blend in, plus Cruz needed a ride. How would a freshman know someone who set to graduate way before they were even in the school, yall are ridiculous, him nor his sister knew him.
You’re right body language says it all and his body language was telling me they knew each other for sure
The way he looked at the killer, oh man. Made me cry. Aside from the incredibly deep damage this killer makes the parents of the deceased children feel every single day, that killer is the reason why this kid’s sister went into surgery three times, too. And why she has permanent damage to her lung. She was unconscious from having been shot, that’s why she wasn’t picking up his calls.
Oh, calm down.
@@louisraya1748 I am so sorry for whatever is hurting you 😕 wishing you deep healing
@@Lucia-Sosa The witness says that Cruz had a ROTC uniform and there’s no one in the video wearing one.
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 lol ur wrong, bruh just look at the vid when he's getting an icee from subway. u see it very clear in one of the angles.
@@Lucia-Sosa Oh, calm down.
Watching this live the look this man gave that boy when asked to identify him literally gave me chills. The unspoken words behind that glare. So powerful. Unbelievably proud of every single survivor telling their story.
I didn't even put it together his sister was shot 4 times
If looks could beat tf out of you....... Dude would be laying on the floor badly beaten within an inch of his life. Death is too easy for him. He needs to have to live with the thoughts of horror from what he did just like the families he destroyed. SMH I know this feeling firsthand. You can't get it out of your head, you can only try to keep pushing without someone that meant everything to you. You are never ok with it...... NEVER
@@rayahnsingleton3215 did she die?
@@kimalonzo3363 no she actually had testified she was shot 4 times. I think he video clip says student that was shot 4 times testifies. I didn't notice on the day she testified her brother was there.
@@kimalonzo3363 No, miraculously she survived even though she was found unconscious, not breathing, and without a pulse by police and paramedics. Her name is Madeleine Wilford. She'd been hit in the lung, abdomen and arm. She's moving on with her life now. She's a strong survivor! 💪
Wow his peer stated him down when asked if he recognized him in court today. Great job on standing your ground. And not letting evil intimidate you
Not like he has a gun in court, it ain't scary.
@@NorthAyase still , glad he stared him down!
@@NorthAyase it’s more than that
@@NorthAyase ur slow 😂
@@christianblazers959 You're sheltered.
This guy clearly had no remorse. Cold blooded
He's mind is off kilter
@@alphaomega8373 A lot of peoples minds are "off kilter", but they dont murder people. This guys mind and heart is just EVIL
The GQP defends this guy's rights to have guns.
Willysnowman I’m not a fan of the NRA, but no they don’t support his right to own a firearm. He’s committed crimes that prevent him from doing so. The NRA is simply saying that you don’t get to steal the rights of hundreds of millions of people just because a couple of them do horrible things.
@@willysnowman but the school was a gun free zone how did that happen??
This just shows how much people in life u could pass not knowing what they did and what there capable of, very creepy and scary
Yes ..example Chris watts went on camera after annihilating his family and dumping his girls in those tanks ..chilling not even a tear ..
you just figuring this ou?
@@michaelhenry8091 🤔
Yes that's why we shouldn't trust anyone.
@@michaelhenry8091 pfffffffffff
If eyes would kill. The look he gave that coward was so deep and powerful. Bless his heart. Gosh I can’t imagine the “what ifs” he must live by.
That look in his eyes when he identifies him. Very powerful. You can see the rage & grief & contempt. And rightfully so. Must feel at least a little satisfying to be able to point that little punk out.
Oh, whatever.
@@louisraya1748 shut up louis
@@louisraya1748 why are you commenting the same boring thing lmao
@@guitarkittens Oh, calm down.
@@louisraya1748 youre the one that needs to calm down.
So creepy how he just came and sat down right there, and then got up to follow! I'm ao thankful he didn't give him a ride! What a cold blooded piece of 💩
Bet you wouldn't be saying this if he was hot like me
Imagine if he agreed to give him a ride and went back home with him. The boy had good instincts to just say no and leave. This is chilling.
This is so terribly eerie. I cannot imagine how these families feel. How the survivors must feel. This didn't only kill students that day, it killed students and parents afterward. The shockwaves are still happening.
This is insane 😞
They feel great about it. Every day they wake up and smile, thinking about how wonderful and enjoyable life is on a daily basis, and what good hearted magnificent creatures people are
I can't believe anybody's buying the Cabal's fascist anti-gun charade...
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Jesus, man. Why the need to make this so political?
Also, I assume you're referring to the "democrat deep state"- there's no such thing as leftist fascists. That's antithetical to what the left end of the political spectrum means..
@@ubermikesocal imagine being sarcastic under a comment that exhibited basic empathic responses to a tragedy
God forbid anyone ever robs that McDonald's with their 10 pixel Security cameras 🤦♂️
The pixelation is easier to push it as being cruise or whoever they want it to be that’s why they got this guy saying he was there with him but it’s not all that he was sitting alone not ordering food at McDonald’s but somehow he was meeting up with cruise like 10 minutes before you was found unconscious face down on the side the road🙄
10 pixels used to be a lot back in the day.
*1 pixel
It's a video of a video numbnuts
What, you can't tell who is who?
Shake yourself Spielberg
Its not about robbing its probably about catching slackers or intimidating them. Companies all want video but they all want to go to Walmart and get a complete system for 500 bucks. With cameras you very much get what you pay for.
RIP to all that was lost on that day. I hope that your memory never fades and that you are in a much better place.
You're talking like the dead are on yt reading this comment 😆 sorry just threw me off
There's no such thing as a better place.. you were lied to all along..
Once you're gone,you simply no longer exist.. you become food to termites, maggots, soil and bacteria..
@@icewallokhum3028there’s time and place for everything 🤡
@@icewallokhum3028yea kinda weird
shout out to uh, 2pac..
just throwing that out there in the ether cos u kno
🤣😂
Good job young man with your statement. I truly pray that you and your family are doing well. It's not easy ,but you did an excellent job.
I don’t see anyone with the ROTC uniform anywhere in the video. The kid Cruz could be the fall guy and is most likely threatened. I could be wrong
Oh, whatever, phony.
@@missvegasable In the video the witness said Cruz had a ROTC uniform on and there’s no one wearing a ROTC uniform. I think all these kids are put up to do these things. Don’t you care that there could be something bigger than what we imagine? Don’t forget that Branded Lee was shot while filming a movie. Someone put a real bullet in the gun and no one knows who until this day.
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 What are you talking about?
@@onewotldgovernmentonlywhen9044 You off your meds lil guy?
This is blood freezing, knowing that the killer sat right in front of him even though there was so much space around. That is rude. He even walked after him and asked for a ride again. Thank god he refused to do it.
He sat right next to him cause he was just trying to fit in & distance himself from the situation . I bet he thought if he sat next to him then others would think they were together so they wouldn’t suspect anything weird .
@@calise7988 If he didn't wanted to get caught he should hide somewhere or go back home and not walk into McDonald
LMAO
Not rude he is mentally not ok
Madness ? Crazy lunatic ...I don't know how he is called ...ughhh
Are you accusing a mass murderer of being rude? Are you serious then you tell us that he should’ve hidden better?
Are you his friend or something?
All my respect to this young man for holding it together. I am not sure I could have done it
I can't imagine being a high school freshman that finds later that day he had shared a booth (and almost car ride) with the psychopath who had just attempted to murder his sister, succeeding in 17 deaths... I hope Mr. Wilford gets good therapy and support, this moment on film is certain to haunt him for life.
Go abort some babies. Lou knee libre earles.
The bravery of these kids. They have been through so much.
And at such a young age.
I already have the tendency to overthink I could not imagine this happening to me, my trusting issues could never
This was creepy to watch. It looked almost like he was intentionally following and looking for this witness. Good thing they didn't give him a ride. No telling what may have happened.
He would have killed them and stolen the car to get away.
You could see the anger in that kids face when he pointed that piece of garbage out in the court room. The next person who ever harms his sister better know how to run fast...
the way nicholas approaches him so closely .. he couldn’t even have his back turned towards him
The parents and victims are amazingly polite during these hearings! I cannot believe the patience they are displaying! Their silence is deafening!
They have to or risk jeopardizing the prosecution
U clearly have never been to court 😂
It's sad these kids who were around 14 at the time have to relive this experience by testifying 4 years later.
wasn’t it a high school tho?
@@MindOfLJ yes??
@@MindOfLJ you can be around 14 in age in highschool
@@MindOfLJ 14 is freshman age
Most kids are usually 14 during their first year of highschool. At least in america
Some people are so evil, they don't even deserve a trial. I can't believe how much young people are capable of the most horrific crimes. This is absolutely unbelievable, to see your self, sitting next to the monster who just shot your sister.
Everybody deserves a trail. What gets me is that the trial is public. They should not give out this monsters name or the details of his crime so that the next copycat monsters that are nobody can become somebody. The kid he sat with didn't even know him and now everybody knows him he is famous now.
@@JayRSwan not him. Our justice system needs some serious tweaking.
The big bosses are the monster and we all working for them, so how is that weird?
@@toreckman8899 that’s ridiculous who would decide these things
@@dancarlso4439 so you’re saying it’s fine. Interesting Dan. Have you seen what’s going on criminally across America Dan? Lmao
I give that young man props for sitting up there and telling his story. His eyes say he wants to rip him to pieces and I don't blame him one bit.
It shouldn’t amaze me, but it still does. This monster just killed children and he just goes about his day afterwards. Even bought an ICEE. I have no words, just a horrible person.
the yt algorithm is locked in today
What else would he do? Do some more monster stuff? Would that me less amazing?
its glorious how the human mind works.
@@codegolfer well the ppl who want him to live are the ones not reacting to his crimes but more explaining how they feel ab capital punishment in my opinion. That classic philosophical difference in opinion on the death penalty.
@@sulsteeze6762 typical recreational outrage.
This is probably the most American thing I’ve ever seen in my life. After committing a mass shooting, the guy heads to McDonald’s
😮
Dumbest thing
What’s wrong with you
If the mother had given the kid a ride the police might not have caught him when they did. They caught him because he was on foot and matched the description being put out. How horrifying that would have been for the mother to find out she had helped by giving a ride to the monster that shot her daughter.
You can play "whatifs" till the cows come home. More fun than puzzle for sure.
are you saying that the guy in the stands's sister was shot too? he even laughed at one point when asked about that table meeting. u can check. very weird behavior. why did he come to his table? they must 've known each other
True, but even if he got home, by ride or foot, it was just a matter of time before arrest. He had no plan or means of escape, and the evidence points at him directly. Identified as a student by other students after the shooting during escape. Identified clearly as shooter on multiple cameras. Police CAN face scan. He had no chance of evasion.
@@jimskeuh yeah I noticed him laughing as well.
@@kylestoddart thank goodness! But nobody knew that he had no plan at that time.
i’m so glad his sister survived its chilling to unknowingly sit beside the person that shoots your loved one but the person that KILLS them is so much darker and i dont think i could process it
So chilling to think that there are monsters among us and we are unaware of what kind of people we interact with, may God protect us all
Sus
Living in perpetual fear seems to be a recurring theme in America. I thank my creator I live in Australia.
But god has a plan for everything. That’s what y’all say
Sending love and Hug's to all the those sitting in this court room. This has been hard to take in. The pain is unreal and you can see it on everyone's faces..💞💞💞
Everybody but that mass shooter guy. No love and hugs for him.
No hug for the killer!
yes you can see it in everyones face this is the worst case scenario literally god bless the family and the victims please jesus heal their pain ❤️🙏🏻
Me too 😌
Every time I see a face, I wonder if it would look different had this animal not existed.
You can see his body language that he wanted space away from him
Saw that he had nervous body language, too. Cruz seems like he was attempting to blend in, but luckily this kid followed his instinct!
My mom was driving my sister to an orthodontist appointment when the massacre was about to start. She says she remembers seeing a face like his in the car. She says that she could’ve stopped a shooting if she had known, she says she would have crashed into that car if it would stop it or at least delay it. Parents will do anything to protect children, theirs or not. ❤️
Stop cappin
@@anthonyriley9908 i’m not bro. why tf would i lie abt a school shooter?
@@anthonyriley9908 I think he cap😂
@@baguettesorcerer bro is capping up a mansion
@@MrBacon-ou1kw i’m literally not. i live in the exact town and plus i don’t even know if my mom actually saw him, i wasn’t there, it was my sister and mom
A very brave and astute young guy and that stare at the end speaks volumes , it was for all the 17 victims and survivors and their families.
With all the money MCDonalds makes they cant even afford a proper camera system .
There are too few bad people. In all the years I worked at subway (12) I only had problems about 5 times max!!!
Some managers are cheapskates
It is clear how important this day was for them . I remember that day exactly and I remember bits and pieces of it but not in so much detail .
This guy deserves the Green Mile Chair.
With the dry sponge
100%
While Mr Jingles watches.
@@Elvengador20092 I didn't know the sponge was supposed to be wet. Deadman, we have dead man walking here. Deadman walking.
@I'm effin done Death is no freedom. Not for the damned.
I noticed that it appears the "kids" (now adults of course) who are testifying seem to stay in the room afterwards in what appears to be support for the others who are coming into testify. Whether they want it or not, these kids and teachers and parents are bonded for life. It's certainly a bond that nobody is looking for or wants, but it's there none the less. I hope they're able to. continue to be a support and strength for each other over the years to come. I will say, the kids from this school seem to be quite intelligent and well spoken.
So many layers to the creation of this monster of a human....definitely a great example of how many opportunities to prevent this outcome were ignored. I hope at the very least we can learn from this and raise awareness on behaviors' that should NOT be ignored in children, and young adults. What an absolute tragedy in various ways.
Goes to show that you could be sitting next to the devil an not even know it. Crazy!
Believe my I know...
Especially when the devil is often not who we think it is, in this case who would think that a harmless appearing boy like him would commit such atrocious act...
The devil doesn't appear with horns and tail it appears as everything you've ever wanted in life.
@@alejandrososa3168 yep it's in disguise
You never know who your standing sitting next to or walking by .This is so sad. There needs to be better parenting and mental health evaluations
this system is designed to destroy you
this is what is supposed to happen
don’t be so naive
Unfortunately he was adopted and both his parents were dead so can't really blame parenting. And mental help can only do so much. He was on meds and stopped taking them. Unless people with mental issues like that are monitored 24/7 there is nothing that can be done short of a lobotomy.
Yeah, we'll take care of all that on Monday.
easy access to guns is the real issue
@@kitezzz360 oh yes! Considering this guy was already on meds they definitely need to add mental health evaluations for all potential gun owners.
The way he glared at him, I bet he was thinking if he could just have him in a room for five minutes. There would be no more worries.
He’s trying to blend in his surroundings so they couldn’t catch him. He’s pretending he’s got friends. He probably heard this guy talking to his mother.
Obviously, not insane.
He said Cruz had a ROTC uniform on and there’s no one in the video with that uniform anywhere. I think Cruz is the fall guy and is most likely threatened. If he did dot the shooting he really got very fast to McDonalds and didn’t get to do the rest of the shootings. I could be wrong
@15:30 - man, the way his demeanor changed. His face and voice spoke for all the victims.
dominance
Kids go to school to learn. Such a sad world that they would experience such terror again and again. I'm finally a parent and this is truly one of my greatest fears.
That's probably the worst quality security camera footage I've ever seen
I've seen 1890s videos with better quality. This is trash video coming from McDonald's billions dollar annually
Are you expecting Spielberg-like quality?
It's a video of a video
Shake yourself
Pentagon 911?
Imagine sitting next to the man who 15 minutes prior just shot your sister 4 times (lived) the same person your trying to call then has the audacity to ask for a fing ride. Something makes me wonder if he knew they were related.
He probably didn't know, but it's unlikely he would have cared if he knew. To psychopaths, other people are just instruments.
You can tell in his eyes that it eats him up that the person who shot his sister was right in front of him. What are the chances.
Uhhh no
Cruz would have no idea where this kid was or going to be
And Cruz, after the shooting, probably didn't have an exact escape route. Since he blended in with the students
Was random
Don't make stuff up...smh
@@chuckfan1 I was asking dickhead
You ever wonder why we actually have any trials to begin with. The nerve of his lawyer to even object to anything. You know they dont even want to be there defending him
They do! They accepted to defend him! They’re in it for the money, lawyers are scum bags.
This trial is just to decide of he's getting death penalty or life in jail
Defense lawyers are scumbags
@@iasminp41 let the majority rule from what the families want.
@@aidenralston5477 wont argue that
I presume he didn't want to be seen alone as the police won't be looking for a couple.
Why else walks right up to the only taken seat?
Now, that's a good explanation.
because they knew each other. he meet up with him htere, obviously they knew each other
@@jimskeuh
So you believe the young man's testimony was a lie, perjury?
Please don't sit on a jury.
@@MAX-tw3qz The way he acts I would not believe Cruz did it either. He is too calm and not afraid of being seen.
Absolutely disgusting the jury did not hand down the death penalty for him today. They have let down EVERY victim along with their friends and family by not doing so. He is a cold, calculated killer Plain and Simple.
Better not to give him the death penalty. Now he has to suffer for the rest of his life. Think about it.
@katherine mullany I can see where you're coming from but if he's killed then he's set free. Free from all the feelings of what he's done and free from all the things locking him up for life is denying him from.
He's gonna get messed up in the penn fs
I think it’s exceptionally odd that out of all empty seats and tables, he gets into THAT seat…but also you can see him confidently walk to that table like it was planned destination
exactly!!! i also want to point out a fragment of the video where he had a smile when asked about what happened when he came to his table: watch his duping delight smile 3:46
He looked like someone too excited to share what he just did, which is the power of god to decide who gets to live and die. Except that he had no friends to do so, probably hence why he sat next to the first kid he saw at the Mcdonalds, too high on power, but sadly too low on awareness of what he just did.
Cruz probably saw the kid walk in and followed him. The witness mentioned a school uniform so it'd be easy to spot students if their all dressed in uniforms. Cruz probably got some kind of sociopathic thrill doing that.
@@jimskeuh what's up with these wild conspiracy theories, I just thought he sat next to him because he knew it would be less suspicious then if he was sitting alone
@@jimskeuh he didn’t smile, what are you talking about?
One day, the world will evolve to have nice surveillance cameras.
George Orwell
Yea they still gonna cost more. It's cheaper just to put these up
Cheap franchise owners who haven't invested a cent in their business since it was built. I dont think they even make new cameras that are this terrible.
It's already happened in CHYNA.
@@Joules410 Yehp, and people will want it. They'll beg for their freedoms taken in the name of security.
I have felt the same suicidality and mental torment of a mass murderer like the dude on trial here but I don't have the psychology to turn the feelings outward to harm or threaten other parties. Selfhatred and self-disappointment to the extent of praying for my own death in a quiet, undramatic, fittingly solitary way. I must still care about my own survival because at least I find the means to put words to the emotions.
I can find space to choose to feel another way and trick my mind away from dwelling on dark impulses.
My empathy to the rest of you who may feel filled with a sense of weakness, lack of confidence, failure, anxiety and dread
Maybe you want to but your just a chickenshit. Doesn’t make you a good person
Neat
God Bless you and keep you 🙏🏿 Life gets better, especially if you are actively trying. Keep thriving ✨️
Good job testifying young man - calm, cool, and collected.
An 18 year old Cruz , saw a 14,15 year old and honed in on him and was still awkward "thank goodness " and hoped to find a way into a car with his family..that's freaking scary.. really really scary because kids usually trust other kids and want to help
Young man, you are here to represent what we women want in a respectful, loving, protective man. Thank you. God Bless you.
Hearing from the kids that were in school that day is heartbreaking, and then you remember that a sitting member of congress has targeted and harassed the survivors.
Such as margirue tayor green, how dare she.
Bs!
@@billaveda6408 you can’t handle the truth?
That's a lie
@@oliverwells8011 your life is a whole lie.
15:30 you can see the hatred and hear the anger in his voice pointing out this coward.
Where is the video of cruz on the school property with a rifle? Haven't seen that.
It's creepy that Cruz walked straight to him, even though he entered through a different door and the booth was semi-covering Wilford. Was Wilford being followed?!
Probably heard him on the phone calling his mom to meet at McDonald's and Cruz followed him. Creepy guy hope he get death penalty
Can you imagine , how close that family could have been from taking the shooter in their car?! I always tell my kids if you have a gut feeling, go with it
It is a sad world we live in that these innocent children are forced to relive their trauma to convince the world that the murderer deserves to rot. I am so disgusted by this tragedy. It is pitiful to have to say you are proud of children for being strong through these things... may god rest easy the innocent souls lost that Valentine's Day and forever protect all affected.
I wonder what would happen, if this dude actually granted him a ride with his mom.
Probably would’ve held them hostage
@@MH_297 he didnt have a weapon then
@@Joemommuh69 and his a wimp
@@Mufasa.43 If mike tyson bit this guy he would choke to death, and mike can eat 2 pounds of shrooms in one bite
@@Mufasa.43 he doesn’t need a weapon to hold them hostage. Police can only do so much when theirs innocent bistandards involved. Also, how much of a wimp can he be when he killed innocent kids?
This young man was wise beyond his years. He felt something was gf and avoided that POS as much as possible!! There should be no plea deals or life in prison. There should be a brief trial then a meeting with a rope and a tall fall.
A short fall. A tall fall leads to death by broken neck, a short fall leads to death by strangulation.
Welcome back to the dark ages.
Seeing things like this makes me so angry that my own cousin never got justice he was murdered in his own home :(
It took 4 years to bring this to trial?! Totally insane!
Exactly the evidence is right there
He admitted to the crime years ago. But they have to do the trial and they have to make sure everything is lock and key tight so his lawyers can’t get him back out. I know the wait sucks but if the goal is to keep this guy off the streets for the rest of his life then we have to wait for trial
He was already in jail, this is basically to decide if he's getting death penalty or life imprisonment
With big cases like this they really want to squeeze every single drop of detail that could lead to an extra minute in jail time or a foot in the door for the death penalty; he has still been in jail but this is defiantly just to see if he can get the death penalty and not some insanity plea or whatever life.
@David Munir they are trying to determine whether or not they can legally take his life, and I fully hope they do. That's what took so long. There are plenty of dirt bags who wait ten plus years being housed and fed before getting Capital punishment
Wildest McDonald's encounter story I have heard so far.
If looks could kill
John never looked at him until asked to identify. Once he did though you can see the anger and disgust.
Very moving
Come to think about it.. they had both been at Walmart. MAYBE Cruz heard him calling his mom, asking for a ride and telling her that he would meet her at McDonald’s. Maybe Cruz followed him from a distance because Cruz walked into McDonald’s shortly after the kid sat down. It’s like he knew exactly where to sit and with whom. Cruz knew this was a kid from school and he would blend in, plus Cruz needed a ride. Then Cruz actually asked for a ride. Thankfully it was denied. Cruz is very calculating, so I don’t doubt that he followed him from Walmart, which is where Cruz went after leaving the school and bought a slushy- I heard the prosecutor talking about it, on a previous video regarding this case. I’m just speculating, but they had both been at Walmart and both walked to McDonald’s and entered McDonald’s around the same time.
Why is there no more scared kids in that Mc. Donald’s…
So hurt for the parents 💔 I pray that God be with them
If there was truly a god which there isn't why would he allow this to continually happen over and over and over again
@@Amanda-nt7tt deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand
@@PTAHcacique that makes zero sense
@Arabian KING refusing to buy into peoples delusions isn’t lazy, it’s common sense.
@@Amanda-nt7tt it's not the time to debate over your beliefs, pay respect to others and shut up.
The way he point hims out with that look in his eye, gives me chills.
that was a death stare
The way he said his name. You can hear the emotion in his voice
Ugh I can’t even imagine finding out later that the guy sitting in front of you murdered 17 kids and tried to kill your sibling. Chilling.
Good job my man. Way to stare that coward down at the end.
Other comments are saying the sister was shot and survived.
His sister was shot but not killed.
Her sister was shot 4 times but survided, she still has breathing problems
His sister was shot 4 times I believe? I think she testified yesterday? I cannot imagine the pain and agony his sister went through.
His sister was sitting right there in court plus she testified, she didn’t die.
A similar theme that I continue to pick of from school protocol is that they don’t have a special alarm for not fire, or extreme emergencies. That way the students know the possible severity of the situation and can act accordingly to try and save his or her own life.. instead of always assuming that it is a routine fire drill and waiting scared like sitting ducks
Well I'm sure that is going to change in the future, these things take time. Please don't forget that these school shootings are still very much new to this generation and we are just getting new protocols and still put in place. plus every state and school district is different.
The shooter is the one that pulled the fire alarm to get students to come out. Pretty sure he didn’t want them to know the severity of the situation..
That he could act so casual after murdering people is beyond me. It reminds me of the three cops that murdered Elijah McClain (along with the paramedics) and went back to the scene to take photos of themselves. There's a great sickness in many people in this country.
How erie that this kid didn’t even know he just got done shooting his sister. I’m sure he wishes he knew in that moment so he can do her and those other kids justice.
He was a baby. He couldn't have done anything and he'd have felt even more guilty to not be able. 😥
He knew.
@@steveaustin1984 who knew?
@@steveaustin1984 how would he know??
@@vikzytoria his face when he pointed him out says to me he probably wants to hurt him now lol
It amazes me how they let him even escape in the first place...
BEING KIND, FRIENDLY, NICE to sociopaths does NOTHING but put your safety at greater risk... if someone is OFF... KINDNESS DOES NOT FIX THEM... in fact sociopaths, narcissists, etc. consider being nice to be A SIGN OF WEAKNESS and that makes you an easy to victim in their book. We need to teach eachother about THE SIGNS OF ANTISOCIAL and ABUSIVE PERSONALITY DISORDERED INDIVIDUALS... they are always dangerous to others' wellbeing. Doing harm to get what they want WORKS SO WELL.,.. they have no boundaries... they will do whatever it takes to WIN, get their way or punish other's for getting in their way. They will destroy people emotionally and physically... it is who they are and what they do. They have zero remorse, just more anger when they are challenged by being told NO. they suffer from frustration of not being feared enough and having to work too hard for something... they expect reverence and appeasement.
As someone with narcissistic tendencies, you hit it right on the nose. Most of it stems from extreme lack of self confidence and esteem. The behaviors we present are a coping mechanism of sorts. We get depressed when we don't get enough attention and reverence.
My therapist is helping me find healthy ways of using my tendencies (i.e. Using my extreme want of attention and reverence to work harder towards my goals, so that my accomplishments actually warrant the attention I seek).
I wouldn't go as far to say that all narcissistic individuals are bad per say, but in general, I agree that we are worse off then neural-typical folk.
You are just prattling on about crap you have no idea what you’re talking about
@@watema3381 as a person with BPD, ur honesty inspiring for owning your mental illness like that, props to you☝🏻 keep up the good work
@@watema3381 Most plebs have "tendencies", you're just histrionic.
Relax, stop generalizing, and read more.
Cruz should go to prison for bringing a Subway drink into McDonalds.
🤣🤣😂😂
The witness said he was wearing a ROTC uniform and there’s no one in the video with one at all. Cruz could be the fall guy and is most likely threatened. I could be wrong