Chronic Back Pain Isn't What You Think w/ Lorimer Moseley, PHD
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Stream the whole film that this interview with Lorimer Moseley was excerpted from at www.thismighthurtfilm.com
Lorimer Moseley is a PhD (not an MD as the video designates-we will update this in the future) 
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I am a physical therapist, I once treated a woman who had 5 failed back pain surgeries - and docs were still suggesting she get another surgery. UGH. THis makes so much sense.
Hi, I'm new to this, my physiotherapist recommended I watch your channel and a few more like flippinpain etc.
And I can very much relate to most of what you have explained so far, so I'm gonna keep watching. I think there's promise here.
When you've mentioned in I think this video or another about how pain is processed all over the nervous system and not only at the midway spine area, and not only the brain, but is processed in many more areas which makes sense to my own insights on my own pain management.
Areas that include areas of high nerve activity in the gut, which some say is the second brain.
And many more.
This makes things "seem" more complicated than conventional science, biology and medicine etc, but I believe the most complex of designs can still have very simple purposes and functions in common with other systems and designs. That's what makes it genius!
So now I can't help thinking about
Occam's razor which can be boiled down to the concept that it's best to keep things simple. This rule of thumb has been employed throughout history, with many philosophers and scientists agreeing that, all other things being equal, the simpler theory is better.
In my opinion balance plays a huge part in how our whole body and mind works.
Can this be/has it been applied in mapping and understanding the body and its many many wonders in the past imperically but some ways in the wrong direction?
, and if so has this been a "getting the way of real progress and breakthrough" sort of habitual thinking or with all the information about us human beings as a whole, a lot of information! And not all of the theories in sync,.. is taking the simplest answers and applying those serving to take the hugely complex and serving to make it all simple the best way? Or just another way to make money.
Or do, if it is, looking at how doctors, scientists throughout history have a lot of the same habits in their learning and thinking processes and approaches to problems, how much of it all is actual fact occams razor it might just oversimplify what may be something that can't be simplified by studying only the internal things without looking into the past, and how we lived 100 years ago. How life all around us has an impact.
From what I understand about the body it will heal itself automatically if it has the proper materials to heal it will heal more efficiently and effectively with finest of quality and balanced values and measures of-
Vitamins
Minerals and
Nutrients
Which in the most healthiest of dietary plans even with the best food you'd need a truck load a day of veg alone just to meet the daily essentials and just to get the amounts of essentials you need takes industry and a whole load of packaging, and time to prepare and even more to eat it all because it sucks! Because its not as good as it should be, basically organic food is what our ancestors ate for free and we are now paying more for what we should have as a necessity. and thats just not practical nor right, obviously,
The cause of our food being so poor in nourishment is mostly due to overfarmed under replenished soil that has been directly linked to the industrial age taking over, I could go on about greed but I'd rather spend my energy on what I can change,
After industrial age established no one used their wood burning stoves anymore there was an electric everything a new invention every week! So the ashes from the Woodburning stoves that used to go back into the soil to replenish it as natural fertiliser, carbon etc, the home grown veg and fruit etc being grown and picked for you now meant abandoning the garden that was keeping you healthy in more ways than just nourishment, so not even the plants are getting nourished properly!
More time was diverted into work to pay for all of the utilities our ancestors didn't even need it was a luxury a fad that never went away because it meant no going back and you were now working for the power companies, each months wages it now goes to all of these useful but not essential things, and it's called progress lol, seems like going backwards in order to go forwards disguised as marketing was the thing, still is, we only believe its all essential because that is what we are now born into, it's how cities are designed. Our lives are dependant on, no wonder the over prescription of opiods to only deal with(uneffectivly) the symptoms- pain, was so easy for the pharmaceutical industry to push and promote as a cure back then. And that's the final nail in the coffin unless there's a clear path through this modern day life on how to live our lives healthy and wealthy, without the cronic pain from overworking and being tired because of the constant battle with cronic pain.
I think our minds not only create oversensitive protective layers of protection for the areas affected by physical pain, it can do the same in any case where there's a chance of harm to any part of the whole body mind and soul. And its all related, that's the simple part, it's self preservation. You can either own it or it will own you.
Our easy lives might be the biggest problem it may be a part internal part external problem.
So although I believe you in what you endeavour in finding out about pain, and how to manage or even cure it, I believe that's only possible if you take into consideration the direction we are all heading into now because of our dependencies on technologies and how the world works today compared to 100 years ago.
I hope it wasn't too much, I like history I like the facts and forming a theory is fun to do!
Kind regards
So much admiration for Dr Lorimer Moseley. I've been following him for 10 years. He changed my knowledge & perception of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome. Living a high quality life with pain
Has your pain decreased at all
@aprilmoss4106 Yes. I've had multiple RFAs. Recently, my pain management doctor, implanted a Sprint neuromodulator in my left ankle for 2 months & my pain reduced by 60 to 70%. Very pleased
I went to Dr. John E. Sarno's lectures in the 80s... my back spasms, Bells Palsy, etc was definitely a repression of emotion and once I figure out what's getting to me... what I'm repressing the pain goes away - poof. Thanks for putting some science to what he began!
do u literally just 'think' or 'feel' the emotion being repressed and its as sample as that?
@@io-rj6sk I'll give you an example. When I was 43, my Dad came into town for a visit. I started having back spasms. I didn't figure out what was going on right away. But the second morning I woke up a couple hours after I said I would. We had planned to get an early start. He was washing dishes and I could tell by the way he was standing and how he was moving that he was frustrated with me. I started talking to him in this high- pitched voice, saying what a great day we'd have. And then it hit me! I was taking care of his emotions. I had been working hard before he got into town and my body needed the rest. But his frustration was bringing up these little girl feelings... like I needed to make him happy or entertain him. My voice even sounded young. In that moment I realized he didn't need me to take care of him. He could be frustrated and would get over it and we had plenty of time to get out the door. I could be understanding but I didn't need to abandon myself in the process. My back spasms went away within hours. The AWARENESS of the way I abandoned myself around him and some others and how then I felt resentment allowed my brain to process this. It's subtle and takes journal writing and being the detective.
Amazing
Hey Lorimer, amazing presentations in Melbourne last week. I was the person who called out "run" but missed you and didn't get my "PRIZE" . Any chance we can connect? I'm from the Massage and Myotherapy Association and would love 3 minutes of your time. Take it as the pressie I didn't get in your plenary session 😉
Great video! Please could you point me in the right direction of how to contact Professor Mosley and potentially work with him? Currently dealing with a chronic issue and looking at surgery, but don’t want to go down the road if possible! Thanks.
Thanks! You can reach him on his website: www.neura.edu.au/staff/prof-lorimer-moseley/
Another back pain expert who understands these nuances well and is a former spinal surgeon is David Hanscom, MD: backincontrol.com
Could the spleen be involved?
Ok