The proper way to fix these torque converters from going out is to tune out the amount of slip, its ridiculous how much they slip from the factory all for comfort. I use hptuners and bluecat software.
Wanna hear something funny?!!! You could have physically swapped the electronics from the 6l80 into the 6l90 and it would have worked!!! The TCM inside is the same!! You could have skipped the programming part. You can check me it you want to. Hopefully this helps someone else.
@@blindflips4951 they are super simple to rebuild and upgrade, sonnax has a zip kit and transgo make kits aswell. Easiest valve body I have ever rebuilt.
This transmission came from my nephew and didn't cost me anything and it was brand new still had the GM part number on it and be in the 6L 90 I figured that would be a better transmission anyway only cost me $1,300 to have a Driveline built 150 to have it programmed and we're good to go he even installed it didn't charge me nothing for that either
@@davidshackelford4550 I'm certainly no expert on swaps like this however the 6L 80 and the 6090 that I've dealt with the ECM is inside the transmission so you would require complete wiring harness swap to change to those Transmissions
@@armondtrapuzzano2654 yes I took my original drive shaft and had it shortened and the New York put on they couldn't shorten my Driveline because they said it was bent although I had no Driveline vibration I did determine later that the drive shaft in these trucks is thin and weak so I had a complete new unit built with new yoke and you are correct the yolk is bigger
ONLY reason the torque converter fail is do the DUMB trans temp thermostat on the side of the trans and malfunctions and over heats the trans. you NEED to replace it with a" Bar Bell" in-cert. P.S. : If you paid $1300.00 for a drive shaft you got "RIPPED OFF"
My driveshaft only needed to be shortened they quoted me 400 it is Aluminum but then said oh it's bent we can't shorten it have to make a new one from scratch that's why it's 1300 ft was 100% new
My truck came with a 6L 80 which is known to fail over torque converter problems I upgraded to the 6L 90 I don't know anything about the 8-speed versions of the Transmissions that came in these trucks only the 6-speed because that is what I had to deal with
How has this transmission held up? Still clear with no warning lights, shift issues, etc? This gives me a TON of confidence leading into my swap. 2015 Suburban 2WD, and I am swapping in a 6.6 gas engine with the 6L90 from a 2022 Silverado 2500. Suburban currently has the 5.3 with 6L80. Do you recall the length of your driveshaft? I have priced local and I am being told a metal driveshaft should work fine, around $500.
We have driven this truck about 4,000 miles with absolutely no issues just perfect no warning lights no issues whatsoever my truck is a Texas edition crew cab so the Driveline is too long to do metal had to do aluminum it was 1300 and I do not remember the length
Worth every penny..I had a small dent in mine from a coon ..I ll never run a bad drive shaft ..tranny rear end smoked drive shaft twisted right off where weld meetS drive shaft ..Yup replace u joints don't run any junk tires keep your truck stock tire size and leave it parked in the garage... and you'll have it for ever
@@blindflips4951 Well, a 6L90 is a 6-speed and the 8-speeds are 90 series. Do you mean to say that the 8L90 is an 80 series? If so, that is not something I'm familiar with. Always read that they are 90 series transmissions.
The torque converter actually doesn't go out as in stops working it generates metal fragments which destroy the front pump in the transmission which in turn lowers line pressure and clutches start Slippin you'll notice a flutter shudder or just a loss of gear change the fluid when you pull the dipstick will be real dark early warning sign maybe if you hear whining coming from under your vehicle
I was on my way home and my rpm’s were jumping up and back down but when it did it, not the whole time, it felt like it was missing or like I hit the brakes. No check engine light. Thought it might be the TC exploding
That's what happens to the metal from the torque converter messes up the rest of the transmission and it RPMs goes up because that particular clutch pack the computer is asking for is no longer working it will take a transmission replacement or rebuilt to fix the problem
Before you tear it apart you need a good scan tool to pull codes and look at it problems with the transmission will not trigger the check engine light but the codes will be there in the BCM or PCM also look at the transmission fluid and see what color it is if it's not bright red there's probably serious damage
Dang, I'm looking to drop a 90 in a 2011 4x4. Just gotta figure out if i can swap the back half of the tcase out with the 6L80's to retain the driveshaft. Like i did in my 04 denali to keep the awd functional and up against a 4l80.
@@daviddobiesz when I research doing this to my truck I watched several videos on RUclips and I have seen some worthy output shaft is removable without disassembling the transmission so it probably should just be an easy output shaft Swap and you could use your two-wheel drive with your four-wheel drive t case
The proper way to fix these torque converters from going out is to tune out the amount of slip, its ridiculous how much they slip from the factory all for comfort. I use hptuners and bluecat software.
I bought an Edge CTS specifically for the transmission tune. Nice firm shifts always stays cool. Was worried I was buying snake oil but it worked.
@@walnutkraken9430 I'm not familiar with what edge does. Are they still slipping the torque converter? Are you able to datalog the tcc?
holley and others make stand alone gearbox controllers for 6le80,they are CANBUS controlled gearboxes,hence why they need programming
Great info. Thank you
Wanna hear something funny?!!! You could have physically swapped the electronics from the 6l80 into the 6l90 and it would have worked!!! The TCM inside is the same!! You could have skipped the programming part. You can check me it you want to. Hopefully this helps someone else.
The 680 had 200000 miles on it I didn't want to deal with a bad pressure switch so we just use the new ECM
@@blindflips4951 they are super simple to rebuild and upgrade, sonnax has a zip kit and transgo make kits aswell. Easiest valve body I have ever rebuilt.
This transmission came from my nephew and didn't cost me anything and it was brand new still had the GM part number on it and be in the 6L 90 I figured that would be a better transmission anyway only cost me $1,300 to have a Driveline built 150 to have it programmed and we're good to go he even installed it didn't charge me nothing for that either
I have a 2012 Silverado with the V6. Gets 13 mpg in town. Do you know if a 6 or 8 speed will fit?
@@davidshackelford4550 I'm certainly no expert on swaps like this however the 6L 80 and the 6090 that I've dealt with the ECM is inside the transmission so you would require complete wiring harness swap to change to those Transmissions
Did you have to change the yolk on the driveshaft? Doesn’t the 90 series have more spines on the output shaft ?
@@armondtrapuzzano2654 yes I took my original drive shaft and had it shortened and the New York put on they couldn't shorten my Driveline because they said it was bent although I had no Driveline vibration I did determine later that the drive shaft in these trucks is thin and weak so I had a complete new unit built with new yoke and you are correct the yolk is bigger
@@blindflips4951 great info I’m looking to do this swap myself 👍🏼
Does the year matter?
@@Kingvonfan-kp9qs I don't think so I think all 6080 and 6090 are the same other than the length
Thanks for info. How did you modify crossmember?
We use used a piece of plate to move the bolt-holes back about 2 or 3 in I don't remember exact measurement now
There aren't any bands in that transmission.... bad info.
ONLY reason the torque converter fail is do the DUMB trans temp thermostat on the side of the trans and malfunctions and over heats the trans. you NEED to replace it with a" Bar Bell" in-cert. P.S. : If you paid $1300.00 for a drive shaft you got "RIPPED OFF"
My driveshaft only needed to be shortened they quoted me 400 it is Aluminum but then said oh it's bent we can't shorten it have to make a new one from scratch that's why it's 1300 ft was 100% new
@@blindflips4951 I know guys that would make a all new drag racing dr shaft out of Aluminum for under a grand
STL010 kit from Superior Solutions
Where else can you get an aluminum driveshaft done not very many people around my area even do them
The dod tuning is garbage as well which burns up the convertor as well.
2014 6.2 trucks had 6l80e 2015 and up 6.2 trucks had 8l90e
How many bands does a 6L80 or 6L90 have?
@@thegonz7833 I am not sure I bet there's videos on RUclips of a teardown though
Zero bands it uses the clutches to shift
What all 5.3 Silverados can the 8l90 swap to?
My truck came with a 6L 80 which is known to fail over torque converter problems I upgraded to the 6L 90 I don't know anything about the 8-speed versions of the Transmissions that came in these trucks only the 6-speed because that is what I had to deal with
How has this transmission held up? Still clear with no warning lights, shift issues, etc? This gives me a TON of confidence leading into my swap.
2015 Suburban 2WD, and I am swapping in a 6.6 gas engine with the 6L90 from a 2022 Silverado 2500. Suburban currently has the 5.3 with 6L80. Do you recall the length of your driveshaft? I have priced local and I am being told a metal driveshaft should work fine, around $500.
We have driven this truck about 4,000 miles with absolutely no issues just perfect no warning lights no issues whatsoever my truck is a Texas edition crew cab so the Driveline is too long to do metal had to do aluminum it was 1300 and I do not remember the length
Worth every penny..I had a small dent in mine from a coon ..I ll never run a bad drive shaft ..tranny rear end smoked drive shaft twisted right off where weld meetS drive shaft ..Yup replace u joints don't run any junk tires keep your truck stock tire size and leave it parked in the garage... and you'll have it for ever
Sounds like the girlfriend needs replacing 🤣
yeah i thought it was funny when he said it never ran anything over LOL
No Es and the 8-speeds are 90 series.
Then why does this transmission say 6L 90 on the side of it
@@blindflips4951 Well, a 6L90 is a 6-speed and the 8-speeds are 90 series. Do you mean to say that the 8L90 is an 80 series? If so, that is not something I'm familiar with. Always read that they are 90 series transmissions.
I only researched the 6-speed as that is what I have I know nothing of the 8-speed variations
What does it feel like when the torque converter goes out?
The torque converter actually doesn't go out as in stops working it generates metal fragments which destroy the front pump in the transmission which in turn lowers line pressure and clutches start Slippin you'll notice a flutter shudder or just a loss of gear change the fluid when you pull the dipstick will be real dark early warning sign maybe if you hear whining coming from under your vehicle
I was on my way home and my rpm’s were jumping up and back down but when it did it, not the whole time, it felt like it was missing or like I hit the brakes. No check engine light. Thought it might be the TC exploding
That's what happens to the metal from the torque converter messes up the rest of the transmission and it RPMs goes up because that particular clutch pack the computer is asking for is no longer working it will take a transmission replacement or rebuilt to fix the problem
The weird thing is it’s not slipping in any gear. I thought I could pull the transmission, replace the torque converter, and save a few bucks.
Before you tear it apart you need a good scan tool to pull codes and look at it problems with the transmission will not trigger the check engine light but the codes will be there in the BCM or PCM also look at the transmission fluid and see what color it is if it's not bright red there's probably serious damage
2wd setup?
Yes
Dang, I'm looking to drop a 90 in a 2011 4x4. Just gotta figure out if i can swap the back half of the tcase out with the 6L80's to retain the driveshaft. Like i did in my 04 denali to keep the awd functional and up against a 4l80.
@@daviddobiesz when I research doing this to my truck I watched several videos on RUclips and I have seen some worthy output shaft is removable without disassembling the transmission so it probably should just be an easy output shaft Swap and you could use your two-wheel drive with your four-wheel drive t case
@@blindflips4951 I have only seen the output shaft attached to a hub in the bottom. Could you point me in the right direction?
@daviddobiesz the 680 is attached to the 6L 90 is not you'll have to search for the video cuz it's been two years since I've did this
Stick with the truck send her up the road
Women just know where the brakes and gas pedal are they don't give a shit