i did this 1 year ago exactly, at the age of 51. Best decision i ever did. i had an open bite my entire life, and no chin. did a year of braces, got my wisdom teeth out, upper and bottom jaw surgery .. chin and even though my bottom lip is still a bit numb, i love the results. first time in my life i can look in a mirror and not cringe lol. perfect teeth, awesome smile.. well worth it
So glad to hear this and that it went well. I’m having mine done at50… in a few months. Had to wait a lifetime for this. I’m a bit scared because no one I know apprpves and I’m starting to get antsy about who can help me and how to stay away from everyone who knows me until they’re not freaked out. I feel my family will disown me.
@@visionvixxen I also had haters, people in general don't want you to improve and feel better about yourself, they want you to stay down. People with nice teeth are bothered when people with bad teeth get theirs fixed, it's all ego. I also had an awful smile and jaw position, and now it is so odd looking in a mirror and not looking away immediately, I love what I see. A nice smile, teeth that line up, straight teeth! oh and a profile now, i had my chin done at the same time as well. you will be fine, you will love the way you look
I'm 43 and working with an Ortho and soon a surgeon to see if I'm a candidate. Thank you for sharing... I've only been seeing videos and posts from much younger people. I was worried i might be too late to go through with it.
@@TrinaSafiya you are young, you'll be fine and it' an advantage getting it done older - the odds are they won't move again, you are done growing. Also you will recover just fine, are you getting upper and lower?
I am so close to my mandibular advancement surgery (bsso). I know much but I still watch videos of people like you. Don't want to miss on infos. Thanks for summarizing
im glad i got it. not only did it fix my jaw but my lips are fuller and my nose looks better 😝 i’m able to eat in 3 days. time goes by super fast so you don’t notice it
I'm on day 2 of recovery from bijaw surgery. I'm pleasantly surprised that I already have full feeling in my upper lip and mid-face. My lower lip and chin, on the other hand, has about 50% feeling at best. I'm willing to be very patient while the remainder of my feeling returns.
@@user-fy9lv9qs7v its day 18 post surgery and I'm doing really good overall. The swelling has already gone down about 90% appearance-wise, which I was told would take 6 weeks to happen. However, if I let the ibuprofen completely drift out of my system I feel some swelling type of pain mainly in my teeth and gum area, so I just keep it in my system with 600mg twice a day with food. Lastly, in regards to feeling, I still only have about 50% feeling in my lower lip and chin area, and also my upper pallet just behind my upper teeth, so I'll have to continue to be patient on that. Everywhere else I can feel 100% now.
I have a question for you please. How did you breath right after surgery? If your mouth is wired shut and your nose is also blocked, how did you breath? Im getting panic attacks thinking I will stop breathing during my sleep or wint be able to breath at all.
I just had a Bimaxillary Osteotomy last week! Recovery isn't actually as bad as some RUclipsrs make it out to be. I've not found the need to take any of my prescribed pain medication as everything is generally pretty numb anyways. Swelling maxed out on Day 4 and is slowly going down every day.
my nose actually looks a lot better after orthognathic surgery, so it was like a "bonus" advantage of the surgery haha. both my upper and lower jaw were moved forward (the latter was moved more since I was class II) and my nose got straighter and more upright. I'm barely 30 days after surgery and unfortunately will only be allowed solid food after 45 days, but I'm already feeling much better at this point and got used to the mushy and liquid diet for now. I've felt my breathing was much better since day one, it's kinda crazy how much it changed.
Good info I’m a husband of an orthodontist going through bsso n genio in three days at 40 year . A good video for patients . I hope I don’t get any major issues. I sat through my own surgery proplan with my surgeon . The single most successful factor in this procedure is a good surgeon with less error margin…
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 thanks doc my surgery went well . Done on 21st may post recovery little bit swelling , no sensation loss I’m surprised in my under lip n chin area . Not wired shut only one elastics on each side . I am able to talk second day . Overall I believe pro plan and a good surgeon with good planing and execution skills matters most . Unfortunately like all patients cases are not same and surgical skills of surgeon also varies. Bad planning and execution can add up to recovery times
i want jaw surgery, i believe my “TMJ” is disconnected from where its supposed to be but im scared of going through because the nerves in the face… i value my face the most and im OCD i want everything to be perfect, im scared surgery will damage my nerve system
Thanks doc, watching this pre-surgery helped calm me down. It's now been 31 days after my double jaw op and i'm feeling pretty good. There's still some stubborn swelling. My chin and lower lip are still numb (which makes for messy eating), as well as a small area on my right cheek where i think one of the plates are placed. I can eat solid-ish food now, nothing crunchy fried or jaw-breaking, but not because of my jaws not being able to handle it. It's more because i still have a bit of an open bite and my ortho placed elastics so its hard and tiring to chew. Sometimes when i laugh too hard i feel like some areas where i was sutured up inside are about to rip (it doesn't, but i feel slight tugging and sting), i don't know if that's normal. Oh, and i developed pulsatile tinnitus that i hope would go away soon. But all in all, i'm happy with my decision.
Would you be kind enough to tell me where you got OP done and how much it costed. I have been saving up, but don't know what is a comfortable amount. And I am afraid of bad doctors messing things up. I never had any surgery done, I am very afraid of these things.
@@firstnamelastname5761 i had mine done in my country (Philippines) and it cost me around ₱600k which is equivalent to $11k. This included all other expenses like xrays, checkup, flight & accommodation (because my surgeon is based far from where i live). Depending on your situation you may also need braces. My orthodontic treatment which started 6months pre-op and is still ongoing to date is another ₱150k = $2700~ Prices are different per country and specialist, but i hope that estimate helps. In the US this type of surgery may be covered by insurance, in my country it’s not, so that’s another thing to consider.
On Wednesday My daughter gets bilateral jaw joint replacement plus advancement of lower, upper & chin.. medically necessary. She is 16. Dr said expecting about 14 hours. I’m so nervous! We’ve known this was coming for a few years but now it’s actually happening. Prayers are appreciated!
I'll be straight up, I went under the knife in Feburary, so approximately 4 months ago for double jaw surgery and the biggest complaint I have at the moment is the look of my nose. I don't know if this is normal or not. One nostril is larger than the other, it is pretty frustrating and disappointing. My only hope is that my nose will change overtime, but who knows... if anyone else has this problem or has went through this please let me know!
Hi, I’ve had rhinoplasty this January and I can tell you what I know about uneven nostrils. I did a lot of research and asked my own rhinoplastic surgeon about uneven nostrils and he told me that everyone has a degree of unevenness when it comes to the nose hole, because the human body isn’t perfect. I feel like your nostrils were uneven before but the new jaw alignment makes it more noticeable. But as the commenter above me said, your face will continue to change
The nose does change after jaw surgery. We try to predict in what way it will change and whether or not you would likely require a rhinoplasty afterwards. See these references: www.dereksteinbacher.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/18.-3D-nasolabial.pdf www.dereksteinbacher.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/14.-Orthognathic-surgery-and-Rhinoplasty.pdf
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 Dear Surgeon, In the Orthognathic Jaw surgery discipline, I am curious to know What are the Pre-Operations instructions and all the Side effects the doctor/surgeon must tell his patient to be aware of before the patient makes his/her decision to accept the operation which helps the patient to avoid itself from any future unexpected serious health issues and probably a cause to open sue against the surgeon ?! I am Very Grateful for Answering my questions in advance! Most people complain particularly about #TMJ problems after surgery! I mean Must the surgeon inform this possible side effect before the operation or not necessarily?! Do I kindly need your expertise response to this particular question?! Thank you!🙏
actually fun fact that ive been knowing for a while, one nostril is bigger than the other! close one nostril and then the other and you'll come to find that one nostril is dominant!!! the dominant one should be the bigger one :) its been a few months, how is that going?
I had double jaw surgery and it made my nose crooked and weird looking, uneven and the worst is that i barely can breathe. If i want to fix this, i ll need surgery and I recently discovered that appereantly my insurance will not cover for it. So now my jaw is better and i can eat better and is my nose ruined
I'm 38 and just had an orthodontic evaluation to correct my bite and aesthetics. My orthodontist proposed one Invisalign treatment path with surgery and one path without. But explained the end-results would be far superior with the surgery. The surgery is scary in itself, but I am also wondering if my age means I will not recover well. All the testimonials I've seen are from people far younger than me. Normally in their early twenties.
I'm 47 and planning on the surgery in the fall I have similar concerns but my thought process is I am better off getting it done now than waiting any longer. I don't want to live the rest of my life without having it fixed
Witaj, Przeszłam operację w wieku 41 lat.Rekonwalescencję przeszłam szybko j wyglądam ładnie. niestety minął prawie rok a ja mam bardzo słabe czucie w dolnej wardze i brodzie..
I thought my situation was typical but now im finding it's atypical... First I had 4 of my pre-molars removed along with my wisdoms, Then I had abt 4 years of braces, and then finally I had my jaw surgery (had an overbite) where I had 5 plates installed, 4 on the sides of my jaw then 1 on my chin to make it more pronounced, I had that surgery in may last year and I've fully recovered from it now but I still have my braces on but I'm expected to get them off this year :)
The surgeon tried to talk me into double jaw surgery and it didnt make sense to me so i only got my lower jaw done. Now im very very happy i listened to my own medical advice. I believe that a lot of times doctors try to talk us into non sense surgeries/medication because they believe they are trusted. I didnt agree to his medical advice because i dont trust anyone who makes money off of my health or better said illness/problems so i agreed to the lower jaw surgery because after the braces the gap between my lower and upper teeth were so huge that i couldnt even bite into a sandwich anymore 😅 after surgery of course i was in much pain but most pain ive felt in my ears.. around 6 months later ive got ear ringing which i still have (2 years later)..half of my face is numb due to nerve damage even tho ive paid for expensive xrays to avoid this👎 still went wrong.. now due to my ears i have dizzyness 👎👎👎 it looks great now and ive got straight teeth but i have paid a big price for it. Even tho i got problems i consider myself lucky because i know that double jaw surgery would have caused much more problems for me and i can just suggest everyone to think twice with the double jaw surgery since just the lower jaw can already cause permanent damages. The nerve damages happen a lot of times and i dont even want to imagine what its like to have them on more parts of your face.. also a risk is that your upper teeth are moved to far to left or right so its not centered and is misplaced.. also the upper teeth roots can get damaged which causes the loss of your teeth. Ugh its scary ..not just pain wise but all the things that could go wrong. Pls think twice
I’d love to know what others think of your decision to refuse upper surgery,I think you did the correct thing btw. I’m due double surgery in the autumn of this year and was shocked when I was told I’d need upper surgery along with the lower ( lower protrudes quite a bit ), I too cannot bite into a sandwich etc but cannot figure out why the lower jaw cannot be just surgically moved back. What did your surgeon say when you questioned having the upper jaw removed forward ? Thanks.
@betimrustemi327 in what way? The results are amazing from the looks.. the bite is perfect but they messed up with the nerve..messing up the nerve has nothing to do with upper jaw. Its a common practice to talk people into double jaw surgery when just lower jaw would be fine for some. There shouldnt be risks taken when it comes to health cuz you cant reverse anything and the damages are forever. Im happy since it looks nice but unhappy about their scams when they promised me the nerve wont get damaged when i pay for the special xray and still damaged it. I would always tell people to get second or third opinions and really do research.
@@GlossyLipsArt lol you do realise jaw surgeons know better than you isolated mandible surgery was something they did last century before lefort 1 became an exact science. you need to understand deformity in the mandible always means sdeformity in the maxilla too.
Could you do a video discussing the level of bite severity and how that correlates with needing surgery? Also is it possible to do bite correction without surgery? (Especially if you’re over the age of 20)
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638Hello Sir✨!! I am from India , my lower came front because of my own fault😢..... And I am so depressed by seeing my face and it's so weird.... And my parents would scare of jaw surgery , so I need to that without saying them.... How much it costs around sir?? I am College student , so how many days it takes for recovery??
I know that you are mostly aesthetically focused, but do you have any plans on teaching residents the EASE or DOME procedures/modalities? Dr. Kasey Li with EASE and the poorly introduced MSE seem to be the best care for sleep apnea patients as far as minimally invasive surgery, I would love to see this become more standardized and widespread so that patients in need can benefit from it. They're life-changing techniques that take a fraction of the time, money, and damage to tissue.
Thanks for the comment yes absolutely these are useful and great techniques. And we use them and teach them. It depends on the patient and overall goals. And irregularities w the jaws. If breathing is the only concern and there is a narrow maxilla in the setting of otherwise excellent facial balance transverse widening is great. Many patients I see have significant jaw discrepancies. Facial imbalances TMJ issues malocclusion and aesthetic concerns as well. In those settings I like to address all functional and aesthetic concerns in as few of surgeries as possible (one stage for jaws; and then the nose and septum afterwards).
just had this procedure 2 days ago. i swelled up like a balloon. still am. I highly recommend getting a suction device to suck the saliva out. preferably a battery operated or rechargeable. everything he said is all true but there are some doctors that refuse to do the surgery with Invisalign and refuse to take the wisdom teeth out at the time of surgery. I started the process in TX but had to PCS to WA. my teeth were ready in place for surgery but the doctor wanted traditional braces. that meant paying for braces again and removing my wisdom teeth before surgery. luckily I was able to finish the process back in Texas and didn't have to pay twice for braces
Before the surgery, I used to watch many videos documenting the healing stages of people who underwent this operation. I knew that the face would swell, but the swelling that occurred to my face I never expected, I could no longer see from its severity, of course with blue, red and purple facial skin . Now, 18 days after my double jaw surgery, my face is still slightly swollen with a slow improvement. Also, I still couldn't open my mouth more than 1,5 cm. I don't know if this is normal anymore.
That can be normal. As I don’t know the specifics of your surgery and the strategies or medications used i can comment any more specifically. Good luck!
im just recovering from this surgery im on day 8 and oh boy. i had double jaw surgery + genioplasty (extremly big gummy smile, overbite and weak chin). after waking up from anesthesia i was drugged to hell and so dizzy and the first night was really bloody, i threw up blood 3 times. i know it will be all worth it in the end but the recovery is pretty damn hard and eating only liuuid food and purees can be very frustrating
I had mine done two days ago and I also threw up a bunch dark blood the first day. I threw up several ounces, maybe around a cup, in the recovery room. They brought me to the ER where I felt hot and a little dizzy for awhile, and during this time they found my blood pressure to be over 160 on two different readings. I've never had blood pressure that high before without vigorously exercising. I rested another hour or two in the ER, and they found my blood pressure to be 124, so I finally had them wheel me out to patient pickup where my friend was waiting to bring me home. I still didn't feel great, so I'm glad my friend drove me home very slowly. Shortly after getting home I threw up dark red blood again. I've had a bloody, runny nose both days of recovery so far, especially when I first wake up, but at least I haven't felt any more nausea since the night of the surgery.
@@Mechaneer omg i hope you are doing well now :( sad to hear you went through such pain..in my country you stay 2 days in hospital after operation. I will however need to have revision im now almost 7 weeks post op and they noticed they made a mistake in positioning
This is my 4 th day after having a double jaw surgery and genioplasty.,first day I wanted to die from the extreme pain in my whole face., so they had to give me hard pain meds to calm me., my swollen went down a little, but my mouth still don’t close together., I never expected this surgery to be this painful.
Thanks for the comment. Yes the planning and techniques have come a long way. 3D planning and tools and fixation. Ultrasonic cuts to the bone. Medications etc.
@gracefitzgerald2227 What kind of metal do you have and where is it located? Is it in the jaw? Do you still have it now? In what year did you have the operation? How old are you now?
Dr. Derek, I have had all 4 wisdoms taken out today. My bite is narrow. My surgeon today stated I really need Orthognathic Surgery due to my bad overbite. I really wish to have cosmetic surgery in a year or two (full veneers and crowns) but I feel like I won’t get the “Julie Roberts” wide beautiful smile I’m looking for, without undergoing Orthog Surgery first. In addition to my lower jaw needed to be moved up, I would like my palates worked on and expanded wider, for a wider smile. I’ve had braces before and hate my smile the day I got them off cause I didn’t like the size of my teeth or width of my smile. I grew up with family who worked in the industry (as do I now, on the hardware and software side). Therefore, I knew the “look” I was going for from a young age. Difficult… I know lol With age though (now in my late 20s) it has become harder and harder to speak and breathe and sing, and I choke often on foods. I think this is due to such a narrow bite. Got the wisdoms out today cause I obviously need more space in my mouth, and they were also impacted and sideways. What are your thoughts and recommendation? I’ll obviously go get consults but just curious if it’s often common to not just move jaws forward or back, but to also widen the “c”.. the upper and lower bites?
I'm 10 days post-op and only had my lower jaw done. I chose the option to be wired shut and to not have hardware installed to lessen the risk of any nerve damage due to hardware. Today was my post-op appointment and my doctor removed the wires and I'm now switched over to bands. But since the appointment today the right side of my jaw is in so mich pain and I don't know why. The doctor said I can do a no chew diet but now I'm terrified to take the bands off to even try. When they cut the wires off and asked me to relax my jaw to open that is when the pain happened. I pray nothing is wrong on the right side of my jaw now. My next appointment is in 2 weeks. Until then I'm staying with the liquid diet. I'm too scared to take the bands off to try and eat mushy food.
I'm doing ok now. Swelling is gone and eating solid foods. I'm still not eating any hard foods like nuts or hard candies as I'm being careful still. I still get muscle spasms on my left side of my cheek if I talk too much. My jaw muscles will also start to get sore if I chew for too long. My tmj pain symptoms haven't happened since surgery until about 2 weeks ago and it came back. So now I'm back to pushing the side of my jaw joint in when I yawn so it doesn't pop out and hurt me. I hope I won't end up needing the tmj joint replacement surgery. As far as looks go I'm sad with my new face because since moving my lower jaw back the skin on my jawline droops a little and in my neck area as well. So I'm thinking once I'm fully healed I may have cosmetic surgery to fix that. I've come this far and have gone through so much pain I may as well be happy with my results and have some cosmetic correction.
@@intoxologist1 it gets better, i'm just over a year and I'm still trying to figure out how to eat with this new jaw alignment and my front teeth can finally rip food lol
Dear Surgeon, In the Orthognathic Jaw surgery discipline, I am curious to know What are the Pre-Operations instructions and all the Side effects the doctor/surgeon must tell his patient to be aware of before the patient makes his/her decision to accept the operation which helps the patient to avoid itself from any future unexpected serious health issues and probably a cause to open sue against the surgeon ?! I am Very Grateful for Answering my questions in advance! Most people complain particularly about #TMJ problems after surgery! I mean Must the surgeon inform this possible side effect before the operation or not necessarily?! Do I kindly need your expertise response to this particular question?! Thank you!🙏
I’m victim of malpractice by Federico Hernández Alfaro (maxillo Monkey-facial Institute in Barcelona). Looking for an experienced professional for the revision this time.
Im a female and 75 i cant open my mouth much my bottom teeth comes overmy top and my chin sticks way out am i a canidate or do i have to stay like this forever and of everything else i have no top teeth please talk to me i dont know what to do
I had this surgery 2 months back and i dont know what went wrong my lips (because of which my lower teeth are visible now at rest )are still not competent i have an open bite now and my lower jaw looks like it is deviated to one side. They completely screwed up my occlusion and i am going to have another surgery next month to correct it. I really hope everything goes alright
It can help to ease OSA??!!?! I'm a patient with bilateral cleft lip and palate and I have sleep apnea - I already need the surgery for the CLP but now that I know it can help OSA I'm certainly more excited. SHEESH.
Sir.rib cartilage harvesting. For nose surjery.last before 3 months post op still pain in lower right side rib area.this pain suffered my long live life sir.please 🙏 tell me sir
Do these surgeries help improve cheek bones and general maxillary projection? My maxilla is flat so my teeth look quite small and dark. I am already pretty but I would like a surgery for permanent aesthetic improvement. I do have sleep apnea but my overbite isn’t terrible and my teeth wouldn’t need more than a year of treatment to straighten the crooked teeth
Great video !!! Could u do a video on open bite and jaw surgery? And does sleep bruxism affect jaw surgery? Like if a patient has that, wouldn't that affect the healing and be traumatic to the jaw? Thanks..
Hello Sir! Thank you for a very informative video. The insecurity I have about my face is that, when I speak, my teeth are not at all visible. I would say both my upper and lower lips are big. What is the best way for me to treat this problem. Can I solve my problem with an invasive method? What is the normal procedure/treatment approach, for a patient facing this problem? Thanks in advance!
I had jaw resectioning without surgery 10 days ago and from yesterday i have realy bad pain. Just wander if it is normal?😢 should it be better after 10 days?
Hi I have guestion I have tmj uneven jaw and overbite I want fix. I get pain I. Temple on right size and discomfort around jaw it feels tight all time I get headaches because of it .eating food has been problem I have cut my food in small bite or eat soft foods that will not cause discomfort when I even crew my right jaw is higher then left side . Do not know how that happen never had my jaw broken at all not even when I been in few fights .I told my tmj doctor when I had head injury 20 years ago due to someone jump me from behind hit me with 40 Oz beer bottle full of beer.i was in medical coma for it .when I was in coma the doctors had wire my mouth open I guess for me breathe or eat food so I wonding if that could cause uneven jaw .other guestion I have how take med for pain if jaw wire shut .do doctor have patients tale soft gels medicine that can goe threw straw ?I know same for food as well take few weeks for it jaw operation to heal also after that happen is there some rehab they have go threw get jaw back into working shape.i also hear people who have medicad insurance they may not cover it because it cosmetic surgery fir jaw is that true I not having face lift .or anything else people in Hollywood always do loom young or improve some area .I been wanting fix my overbite since I was little but could not come up with money .my overbite overlap my bottom by good mom I guessing 9 or more some people I hear before they had jaw operation had uneven jaw or overbite they had discomfort in cheekbone and temple. Is that because of overbite and uneven jaw .hoping hear from u soon
Hello! What would u say is the recommended age for getting jaw surgery to fix facial asymmetry? What age is considered too young? Thank u in advance 🙏🏼
Hi there. It depends on the type of jaw malposition; and gender - females typically done growing sooner and can thus have the procedure sooner. Message me an I can give you more info:details
Can you get a cervical disc herniation from orthognathic surgery, or make one worse? I have a 3-level cervical spinal fusion from C4-C7 from 2015. I have a disc herniation above the fusion at the C3-C4 and a bulging disc under the fusion at the C7-T1. I'm a female in my late 40's. I have a severe overbite. I'm noticing it's getting worse as I age. My bottom teeth are banging against my top teeth and gums when I chew and I have headaches most of the time. I also have severe sleep apnea and use a cpap. My teeth aren't crooked at all, just the overbite. Orthodontists recommend metal braces, no plastic aligners for me, and orthognathic surgery for the upper, lower jaw and chin. I saw one orthognathic surgeon about a year after my surgery and he cautioned against getting jaw surgery because of my cervical spine. He recommended I just do the braces. The orthodontist says it doesn't work like that, only the surgery would get you the proper results. I've searched online for articles about getting orthognathic surgery after a spinal fusion and haven't found anything. Why can't your spine be protected during the surgery? Is it truly a contraindication?
I'm going to have this surgery like in a month and I'm super nervous about it..idk I'm just concerned about the nerve injury which is the main complication of this surgery. I'll have mandibular advancement maybe bsso surgery. I'm too nervous 🥺
@@johnhess9443 heyy! Don't be terrified..it's almost 2 months post my surgery and trust me you won't regret and have faith on your doctors. I know 2-3 weeks would be challenging as you won't be able to eat. But have patience and all the best for your surgery.
@prernasharma2714 Thank you so much for taking the time to reply!! I really needed to hear that : ) I'm happy to know your recovery is going well and you don't regret it! I'll keep this in mind when I get those little waves of doubt and panic haha. I really, really appreciate it!! All the best.
Many years ago I had a bilateral sliding osteotomy of the mandibular rami with genioplasty. Scarring was minimal and I was very happy with the outcome. My surgeon recommended the external approach to avoid the risk of nerve damage. My recovery was rapid. How often do you use the external approach to correct Class III prognathism today? Just curious.
If you are 60 and need orthognathic surgery, and most of your lower jaw teeth won't resist braces, would you recommend implants, or lower denture? can you extract the teeth and customize the denture or implants after surgery?
I had SARPE surgery in July 2022 and am still wearing braces, which I've had for a year and a half. I'm having a Le Forte 1 osteotomy towards the end of the year to bring my maxilla forward slightly. I'm already 60 years of age. I'm just wondering if my cheekbones will look flatter after all the numbing's gone down, and is my nose likely to appear a bit wider? If so, what can be done about this please? They didn't do any CT scans for my SARPE.
He says the titanium plates can stay “forever” most of the time? Does anyone know of plates like this need replacement? Like what if I plan to live until I’m 104?
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 I want mine removed. It’s causing me to have a lisp. So the surgeon is removing it this month. Tell you the truth this surgery has been a struggle.
I had accident and fracture my right and left mandible jaw. I had surgery on right side with titanium plate and had arch bars with elastic on mouth on 10th December 2022,more than 3 weeks.I am on liquid diet from almost a month. When I will be able to eat solid foods.??
Question: if my occlusion is good and I don’t have an overbite but my lower jaw is recessed, am I a candidate for double jaw surgery or will a genioplasty do the job? Because in order to keep the bite the same you have to advance the upper and lower jaws the same amount. However this will still mean that the lower jaw is recessed to the same degree relative to the upper jaw. So how do surgeons fix the skeletal class II without changing the already normal occlusion?
I've had braces for 8 years now. The lady who done all my mouth work before leaving her job messed everything up. The new guy corrected everything then covid hit. Get my surgery tomorrow less than 18 hours away Only doing research now lol
I have an oblong face shape. Is it possible to change it into a more rectangular face shape(a more square face shape)? Would I have to widen my mandible and cheekbones?
No, unless you are a case of retrognathia where ur mandible is setback. Surgery only changes position. Not the bone’s shape itself. You need Mandibular implants, Or maybe blast Steroids like Conor mcgregor did. Might lose ur hair tho
No, unless you are a case of retrognathia where ur mandible is setback. Surgery only changes position. Not the bone’s shape itself. You need Mandibular implants, Or maybe blast Steroids like Conor mcgregor did. Might lose ur hair tho
easiest way is to ask him how imporatnt he thinks aesthetics are. if he says no, fart at him and move to the next one. tehres many idiot scalpel kiddies in the UK who are obsessed with occlusion no matter how deformed they make their patients look
I have seen the end results of people that have had this done, and I think it’s a life changer. The health benefits are lifelong; it’s never been considered as a cosmetic procedure, that is just a side effect.
Hi Dr., I'm almost a year post op orthognathic surgery yet my entire mouth feels very tight, my nose is constantly flaring and I feel a lot of pressure on my upper teeth/gums. I really think it's the plates near my upper jaw nasal area that's causing all these issues. And yet, my doctor refuses to remove the plates saying it will widen my nose even after alar cinch and there are risks of tissues and muscle damage. I hate my flaring nose. Is it really going to widen my nose if my plates are removed? Thanks.
I have my surgery tommorow morning. Upper and lower jaw. My bite is perfect but my mouth is always open. From xrays my jaw line is going down and restricted airway. Even worse when my mouth is complety open when sleeping. Nose is working fine and has no problems but since the airway right under my toungue is to small my body uses the mouth for air some reason. Have bad snoring no matter how i lay and sleep apnea. Pretty nervous but got to do it. Im 36 and not overwright. I trsin everyday.
@jillybeanc it went well. It's now been 8 months. It sucked for sure. It's still tingling a little in my jaw and bottom lip but getting better. My mouth is always closed and I don't snore anymore. It's gonna suck especially the first 2 months but you just have to embrace it. If I had to do it again I wouldn't bu I'm glad I did it because I know later in life it will help my health. I'm also still not use to my bite and I still don't habe the same power I use to in my bite. I'm guessing that will come later. My jaw,muscles and bite are all new. If you have any questions let me know.
I got double jaw surgery and nobody warned me about thr nose! It got crooked, im unable to breathe at night and way worse at day and it is ugly and distorted. Now to fix this, i'll have to pay again and it won't be covered by insurance since it counts as plastic surgery. Im absolutely devastated about it. Yes they did fix my jaw and i can eat now, but i cant breath properly!! I honestly dont understand how this is ok
Sir I have a question, with what type of equipment do "cut" the bone, I suppose it's some electric mini saw that causes vibrations throughout the skull? I ask this because I have severe myopia and I'm afraid of a retinal detachment, again.
I had extraction ortho as a teen. As a result my airway is very narrow. I have a class 1 bite though. been told by ted belfor I need DJS. I have TMD, how is TMJ dysfunction managed with Djs? Thank you !
Haha. Read my book- “aesthetic Orthognathic surgery and rhinoplasty”. The other great ones are the Bell 3-volume set. And really any other book you can find on orthognathic surgery.
I'm on day 12 recovery double jaw surgery. Swelling gone, lips are 80% better than day one, still numb but getting better every day. Not sore at all anywhere, stopped T3's after day 4. I iced like crazy the first 10 days, now i'll switch to heat to try and stimulate the lips lol
@@user-bw8ej4yx4e yes totally gone, after the last 3.5 months the only thing remaining is a bit of numbness on bottom lip. Crazy how I thought I would be bothered by pain, but it was just the new jaw position that messed me up with eating etc.
Not usually. There is a resorbable plate option that can be used at times. Or if you don’t like the idea of permanent titanium plates they can be removed once the bones heal.
I’ve been told I may need 4 premolar extractions to decompensate my upper and lower incisors so the jaws can be advanced properly, even though I have no crowding. Is this a normal practice?
Would orthognathic surgery also be helpful in order to eliviate ramus asymmetry/an asymmetric facial midline? Can you do this surgery even if you don‘t have severe bite problems? Average cost in this field? Will those titanium implants provide a skull stability which is as high as the natural bone structure?
Hi there. Yes asymmetry or other aesthetic concerns without bite issues can be powerfully addressed w orthognathic. It is a very powerful aesthetic set of procedures while at the same time opening your breathing (and correcting the bite in many cases)
probably 2 months total to be eating somewhat normal, but your new bit will feel off. I'm almost 2 years since the surgery and I'm still learning how to chew with my new choppers lol. Can't speak to the apnea but I haven't snored since and I also now sleep and spend every day with my mouth closed , no more snoring and my energy is 100% better. I was a mouth breather my entire life, then I had the surgery.. and boom... closed mouth since.
Anyone else experiencing nasal issues after their jaw surgery? It's been years, but I'm still having a hard time with breathing. Thankfully, I didn't experience any pain after recovery even though vicodin was prescribed to me.
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i did this 1 year ago exactly, at the age of 51. Best decision i ever did. i had an open bite my entire life, and no chin. did a year of braces, got my wisdom teeth out, upper and bottom jaw surgery .. chin and even though my bottom lip is still a bit numb, i love the results. first time in my life i can look in a mirror and not cringe lol. perfect teeth, awesome smile.. well worth it
So glad to hear this and that it went well. I’m having mine done at50… in a few months. Had to wait a lifetime for this. I’m a bit scared because no one I know apprpves and I’m starting to get antsy about who can help me and how to stay away from everyone who knows me until they’re not freaked out. I feel my family will disown me.
@@visionvixxen I also had haters, people in general don't want you to improve and feel better about yourself, they want you to stay down. People with nice teeth are bothered when people with bad teeth get theirs fixed, it's all ego. I also had an awful smile and jaw position, and now it is so odd looking in a mirror and not looking away immediately, I love what I see. A nice smile, teeth that line up, straight teeth! oh and a profile now, i had my chin done at the same time as well. you will be fine, you will love the way you look
I'm 43 and working with an Ortho and soon a surgeon to see if I'm a candidate.
Thank you for sharing... I've only been seeing videos and posts from much younger people. I was worried i might be too late to go through with it.
@@TrinaSafiya you are young, you'll be fine and it' an advantage getting it done older - the odds are they won't move again, you are done growing. Also you will recover just fine, are you getting upper and lower?
@@TrinaSafiya you got this!
Getting double jaw surgery on Tuesday and I’m so glad I came across your video as it helped ease my nerves ❤ thank you!
how did it go?
How it went ?
how did it go?!
Hope it went well. Would love some updates.
@@Q8Tdot it went great! 6 months post op and feeling amazing
I am so close to my mandibular advancement surgery (bsso). I know much but I still watch videos of people like you. Don't want to miss on infos. Thanks for summarizing
I don’t think I’m brave enough to do this, props to those who are capable of going through this surgery!! It takes guts!! 💪🏼✨
You'll be out for it, recovery is bad but it aint THAT bad. You're on painkillers, eating soup just sucks
im glad i got it. not only did it fix my jaw but my lips are fuller and my nose looks better 😝 i’m able to eat in 3 days. time goes by super fast so you don’t notice it
@@oscarthagrouchcan you tell me what problem did u have
Or desperate
I really want to do this , I'm so insecure cause of it
I'm on day 2 of recovery from bijaw surgery. I'm pleasantly surprised that I already have full feeling in my upper lip and mid-face. My lower lip and chin, on the other hand, has about 50% feeling at best. I'm willing to be very patient while the remainder of my feeling returns.
How are you now?
@@user-fy9lv9qs7v its day 18 post surgery and I'm doing really good overall. The swelling has already gone down about 90% appearance-wise, which I was told would take 6 weeks to happen. However, if I let the ibuprofen completely drift out of my system I feel some swelling type of pain mainly in my teeth and gum area, so I just keep it in my system with 600mg twice a day with food. Lastly, in regards to feeling, I still only have about 50% feeling in my lower lip and chin area, and also my upper pallet just behind my upper teeth, so I'll have to continue to be patient on that. Everywhere else I can feel 100% now.
@@Mechaneer hey. hope youre doin good and healing properly. im about to go under the knife on july 12. im realy stressed. any tips?
@@Mechaneer thank very much. I appreciate all of your advice. Im gonna research supplements. Whish all the best for you my friend.
I have a question for you please. How did you breath right after surgery? If your mouth is wired shut and your nose is also blocked, how did you breath? Im getting panic attacks thinking I will stop breathing during my sleep or wint be able to breath at all.
I just had a Bimaxillary Osteotomy last week! Recovery isn't actually as bad as some RUclipsrs make it out to be.
I've not found the need to take any of my prescribed pain medication as everything is generally pretty numb anyways.
Swelling maxed out on Day 4 and is slowly going down every day.
Who is your surgeon?
my nose actually looks a lot better after orthognathic surgery, so it was like a "bonus" advantage of the surgery haha. both my upper and lower jaw were moved forward (the latter was moved more since I was class II) and my nose got straighter and more upright. I'm barely 30 days after surgery and unfortunately will only be allowed solid food after 45 days, but I'm already feeling much better at this point and got used to the mushy and liquid diet for now. I've felt my breathing was much better since day one, it's kinda crazy how much it changed.
Fuark i need orthognathic correction so bad
Great❤
Same situation, my upper and lower jaw came front😭... Think to do surgery from a good orthognathic
@@maalikserebryakov same bro
Good info I’m a husband of an orthodontist going through bsso n genio in three days at 40 year . A good video for patients . I hope I don’t get any major issues. I sat through my own surgery proplan with my surgeon . The single most successful factor in this procedure is a good surgeon with less error margin…
Great thanks for the feedback. We’ve got more videos on the way. Good luck to you both
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 thanks doc my surgery went well . Done on 21st may post recovery little bit swelling , no sensation loss I’m surprised in my under lip n chin area . Not wired shut only one elastics on each side . I am able to talk second day . Overall I believe pro plan and a good surgeon with good planing and execution skills matters most . Unfortunately like all patients cases are not same and surgical skills of surgeon also varies. Bad planning and execution can add up to recovery times
Just last Wednesday i had my Orthognathic surgery with advancement on right jaw , set back on left and genioplasty of chin
Still in healing process
Good luck!
i want jaw surgery, i believe my “TMJ” is disconnected from where its supposed to be but im scared of going through because the nerves in the face… i value my face the most and im OCD i want everything to be perfect, im scared surgery will damage my nerve system
This was super helpful! Thank you! I’ll be getting jaw surgery this year so I’m a bit nervous
Trying to get mine too!
Thanks doc, watching this pre-surgery helped calm me down. It's now been 31 days after my double jaw op and i'm feeling pretty good. There's still some stubborn swelling. My chin and lower lip are still numb (which makes for messy eating), as well as a small area on my right cheek where i think one of the plates are placed. I can eat solid-ish food now, nothing crunchy fried or jaw-breaking, but not because of my jaws not being able to handle it. It's more because i still have a bit of an open bite and my ortho placed elastics so its hard and tiring to chew. Sometimes when i laugh too hard i feel like some areas where i was sutured up inside are about to rip (it doesn't, but i feel slight tugging and sting), i don't know if that's normal. Oh, and i developed pulsatile tinnitus that i hope would go away soon. But all in all, i'm happy with my decision.
Would you be kind enough to tell me where you got OP done and how much it costed.
I have been saving up, but don't know what is a comfortable amount. And I am afraid of bad doctors messing things up.
I never had any surgery done, I am very afraid of these things.
@@firstnamelastname5761 i had mine done in my country (Philippines) and it cost me around ₱600k which is equivalent to $11k. This included all other expenses like xrays, checkup, flight & accommodation (because my surgeon is based far from where i live). Depending on your situation you may also need braces. My orthodontic treatment which started 6months pre-op and is still ongoing to date is another ₱150k = $2700~
Prices are different per country and specialist, but i hope that estimate helps. In the US this type of surgery may be covered by insurance, in my country it’s not, so that’s another thing to consider.
@@firstnamelastname5761same situation dude😭
Surgery in a day. Nervous but excited! Thank you for the informative video
How'd it go
On Wednesday My daughter gets bilateral jaw joint replacement plus advancement of lower, upper & chin.. medically necessary. She is 16.
Dr said expecting about 14 hours. I’m so nervous! We’ve known this was coming for a few years but now it’s actually happening. Prayers are appreciated!
I hope it went well!!! She is so brave ❤️
I'll be straight up, I went under the knife in Feburary, so approximately 4 months ago for double jaw surgery and the biggest complaint I have at the moment is the look of my nose. I don't know if this is normal or not. One nostril is larger than the other, it is pretty frustrating and disappointing. My only hope is that my nose will change overtime, but who knows...
if anyone else has this problem or has went through this please let me know!
Hi, I’ve had rhinoplasty this January and I can tell you what I know about uneven nostrils. I did a lot of research and asked my own rhinoplastic surgeon about uneven nostrils and he told me that everyone has a degree of unevenness when it comes to the nose hole, because the human body isn’t perfect. I feel like your nostrils were uneven before but the new jaw alignment makes it more noticeable. But as the commenter above me said, your face will continue to change
The nose does change after jaw surgery. We try to predict in what way it will change and whether or not you would likely require a rhinoplasty afterwards. See these references: www.dereksteinbacher.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/18.-3D-nasolabial.pdf
www.dereksteinbacher.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/14.-Orthognathic-surgery-and-Rhinoplasty.pdf
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Dear Surgeon,
In the Orthognathic Jaw surgery discipline, I am curious to know What are the Pre-Operations instructions and all the Side effects the doctor/surgeon must tell his patient to be aware of before the patient makes his/her decision to accept the operation which helps the patient to avoid itself from any future unexpected serious health issues and probably a cause to open sue against the surgeon ?!
I am Very Grateful for Answering my questions in advance!
Most people complain particularly about #TMJ problems after surgery! I mean Must the surgeon inform this possible side effect before the operation or not necessarily?! Do I kindly need your expertise response to this particular question?! Thank you!🙏
actually fun fact that ive been knowing for a while, one nostril is bigger than the other! close one nostril and then the other and you'll come to find that one nostril is dominant!!! the dominant one should be the bigger one :)
its been a few months, how is that going?
I had double jaw surgery and it made my nose crooked and weird looking, uneven and the worst is that i barely can breathe. If i want to fix this, i ll need surgery and I recently discovered that appereantly my insurance will not cover for it. So now my jaw is better and i can eat better and is my nose ruined
Based on your work I'm seeing really high level MMA, top US surgeon! Eager to see more videos.
Sounds good. Thank you❤
I'm 38 and just had an orthodontic evaluation to correct my bite and aesthetics. My orthodontist proposed one Invisalign treatment path with surgery and one path without. But explained the end-results would be far superior with the surgery.
The surgery is scary in itself, but I am also wondering if my age means I will not recover well. All the testimonials I've seen are from people far younger than me. Normally in their early twenties.
I am same age and I can only find younger people who’ve had it done, I would like to know if 38 is too old
I'm 47 and planning on the surgery in the fall
I have similar concerns but my thought process is I am better off getting it done now than waiting any longer. I don't want to live the rest of my life without having it fixed
I'm 38 and had the surgery a little over a month ago. You'll be fine.
I'm 54 and planning 2 jaw surgery.
Witaj,
Przeszłam operację w wieku 41 lat.Rekonwalescencję przeszłam szybko j wyglądam ładnie. niestety minął prawie rok a ja mam bardzo słabe czucie w dolnej wardze i brodzie..
I thought my situation was typical but now im finding it's atypical...
First I had 4 of my pre-molars removed along with my wisdoms,
Then I had abt 4 years of braces,
and then finally I had my jaw surgery (had an overbite) where I had 5 plates installed, 4 on the sides of my jaw then 1 on my chin to make it more pronounced,
I had that surgery in may last year and I've fully recovered from it now but I still have my braces on but I'm expected to get them off this year :)
yikes rip
Thanks for sharing these information, I would appreciate it if you share any known long term effects of the surgery? Thanks again
Yeah several things reported. Happy to chat sometime
The surgeon tried to talk me into double jaw surgery and it didnt make sense to me so i only got my lower jaw done. Now im very very happy i listened to my own medical advice. I believe that a lot of times doctors try to talk us into non sense surgeries/medication because they believe they are trusted. I didnt agree to his medical advice because i dont trust anyone who makes money off of my health or better said illness/problems so i agreed to the lower jaw surgery because after the braces the gap between my lower and upper teeth were so huge that i couldnt even bite into a sandwich anymore 😅 after surgery of course i was in much pain but most pain ive felt in my ears.. around 6 months later ive got ear ringing which i still have (2 years later)..half of my face is numb due to nerve damage even tho ive paid for expensive xrays to avoid this👎 still went wrong.. now due to my ears i have dizzyness 👎👎👎 it looks great now and ive got straight teeth but i have paid a big price for it. Even tho i got problems i consider myself lucky because i know that double jaw surgery would have caused much more problems for me and i can just suggest everyone to think twice with the double jaw surgery since just the lower jaw can already cause permanent damages. The nerve damages happen a lot of times and i dont even want to imagine what its like to have them on more parts of your face.. also a risk is that your upper teeth are moved to far to left or right so its not centered and is misplaced.. also the upper teeth roots can get damaged which causes the loss of your teeth. Ugh its scary ..not just pain wise but all the things that could go wrong. Pls think twice
I’d love to know what others think of your decision to refuse upper surgery,I think you did the correct thing btw.
I’m due double surgery in the autumn of this year and was shocked when I was told I’d need upper surgery along with the lower ( lower protrudes quite a bit ),
I too cannot bite into a sandwich etc but cannot figure out why the lower jaw cannot be just surgically moved back.
What did your surgeon say when you questioned having the upper jaw removed forward ?
Thanks.
@betimrustemi327 in what way? The results are amazing from the looks.. the bite is perfect but they messed up with the nerve..messing up the nerve has nothing to do with upper jaw. Its a common practice to talk people into double jaw surgery when just lower jaw would be fine for some. There shouldnt be risks taken when it comes to health cuz you cant reverse anything and the damages are forever. Im happy since it looks nice but unhappy about their scams when they promised me the nerve wont get damaged when i pay for the special xray and still damaged it. I would always tell people to get second or third opinions and really do research.
@@GlossyLipsArt lol
you do realise jaw surgeons know better than you
isolated mandible surgery was something they did last century before lefort 1 became an exact science. you need to understand deformity in the mandible always means sdeformity in the maxilla too.
Could you do a video discussing the level of bite severity and how that correlates with needing surgery? Also is it possible to do bite correction without surgery? (Especially if you’re over the age of 20)
Yes thanks for the suggestion
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638Hello Sir✨!! I am from India , my lower came front because of my own fault😢..... And I am so depressed by seeing my face and it's so weird.... And my parents would scare of jaw surgery , so I need to that without saying them....
How much it costs around sir??
I am College student , so how many days it takes for recovery??
I know that you are mostly aesthetically focused, but do you have any plans on teaching residents the EASE or DOME procedures/modalities? Dr. Kasey Li with EASE and the poorly introduced MSE seem to be the best care for sleep apnea patients as far as minimally invasive surgery, I would love to see this become more standardized and widespread so that patients in need can benefit from it. They're life-changing techniques that take a fraction of the time, money, and damage to tissue.
Thanks for the comment yes absolutely these are useful and great techniques. And we use them and teach them. It depends on the patient and overall goals. And irregularities w the jaws. If breathing is the only concern and there is a narrow maxilla in the setting of otherwise excellent facial balance transverse widening is great. Many patients I see have significant jaw discrepancies. Facial imbalances TMJ issues malocclusion and aesthetic concerns as well. In those settings I like to address all functional and aesthetic concerns in as few of surgeries as possible (one stage for jaws; and then the nose and septum afterwards).
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 What are your current thoughts on the DNA appliance for helping with moderate jaw asymmetry?
just had this procedure 2 days ago. i swelled up like a balloon. still am. I highly recommend getting a suction device to suck the saliva out. preferably a battery operated or rechargeable. everything he said is all true but there are some doctors that refuse to do the surgery with Invisalign and refuse to take the wisdom teeth out at the time of surgery. I started the process in TX but had to PCS to WA. my teeth were ready in place for surgery but the doctor wanted traditional braces. that meant paying for braces again and removing my wisdom teeth before surgery. luckily I was able to finish the process back in Texas and didn't have to pay twice for braces
I also did braces, wore them for 8 months after the surgery.
Very informative video! Could you make a video on sleep apnea and what surgeries you typically perform with respect to it? Thanks!
Yes good idea. Thanks for the recommendation!
The key is the occlusal plane if that get be correct by an upwards swing jaw surgery can be unnecessary
Dr. Even with titanium plates some still wire patients shut. Why?
Before the surgery, I used to watch many videos documenting the healing stages of people who underwent this operation. I knew that the face would swell, but the swelling that occurred to my face I never expected, I could no longer see from its severity, of course with blue, red and purple facial skin . Now, 18 days after my double jaw surgery, my face is still slightly swollen with a slow improvement. Also, I still couldn't open my mouth more than 1,5 cm. I don't know if this is normal anymore.
In which country did you get the surgery done ?
That can be normal. As I don’t know the specifics of your surgery and the strategies or medications used i can comment any more specifically. Good luck!
@viola how is the swelling now?
How are you now??? Please reply
3 months later, are you healing well?
im just recovering from this surgery im on day 8 and oh boy. i had double jaw surgery + genioplasty (extremly big gummy smile, overbite and weak chin). after waking up from anesthesia i was drugged to hell and so dizzy and the first night was really bloody, i threw up blood 3 times. i know it will be all worth it in the end but the recovery is pretty damn hard and eating only liuuid food and purees can be very frustrating
I had mine done two days ago and I also threw up a bunch dark blood the first day. I threw up several ounces, maybe around a cup, in the recovery room. They brought me to the ER where I felt hot and a little dizzy for awhile, and during this time they found my blood pressure to be over 160 on two different readings. I've never had blood pressure that high before without vigorously exercising.
I rested another hour or two in the ER, and they found my blood pressure to be 124, so I finally had them wheel me out to patient pickup where my friend was waiting to bring me home. I still didn't feel great, so I'm glad my friend drove me home very slowly. Shortly after getting home I threw up dark red blood again.
I've had a bloody, runny nose both days of recovery so far, especially when I first wake up, but at least I haven't felt any more nausea since the night of the surgery.
@@Mechaneer omg i hope you are doing well now :( sad to hear you went through such pain..in my country you stay 2 days in hospital after operation. I will however need to have revision im now almost 7 weeks post op and they noticed they made a mistake in positioning
This is my 4 th day after having a double jaw surgery and genioplasty.,first day I wanted to die from the extreme pain in my whole face., so they had to give me hard pain meds to calm me., my swollen went down a little, but my mouth still don’t close together., I never expected this surgery to be this painful.
I guess is my age maybe I’m 51.
@@madelineandujar4073 how are you now? I was lucky I guess, had it done at 51 and used ice like crazy and had almost no pain.
Amazing how far Orthagnathic Surgery has come. I had surgery in 1986 and was wired shut for 8.5 weeks. What I would have given to have rubber bands.
Thanks for the comment. Yes the planning and techniques have come a long way. 3D planning and tools and fixation. Ultrasonic cuts to the bone. Medications etc.
What about the metal plates and screws they put in my jaw? Do they stay in place for life?
Mine was is 92. That was a b$tch of a surgery. Thank god I was 18
@@IhsanDriouach. Mine screws and wiring were for life. After 33 years they’re still not going anywhere
@gracefitzgerald2227 What kind of metal do you have and where is it located? Is it in the jaw? Do you still have it now? In what year did you have the operation? How old are you now?
Hi! You mentioned some medications could help with post op nerve recovery. Which meds are those? Thanks very much!
There are several approaches and treatments that can help. Email me and I can give a few suggestions.
I’m also interested in this. Post op nerve recovery meds
Dr. Derek, I have had all 4 wisdoms taken out today. My bite is narrow. My surgeon today stated I really need Orthognathic Surgery due to my bad overbite. I really wish to have cosmetic surgery in a year or two (full veneers and crowns) but I feel like I won’t get the “Julie Roberts” wide beautiful smile I’m looking for, without undergoing Orthog Surgery first. In addition to my lower jaw needed to be moved up, I would like my palates worked on and expanded wider, for a wider smile. I’ve had braces before and hate my smile the day I got them off cause I didn’t like the size of my teeth or width of my smile. I grew up with family who worked in the industry (as do I now, on the hardware and software side). Therefore, I knew the “look” I was going for from a young age. Difficult… I know lol With age though (now in my late 20s) it has become harder and harder to speak and breathe and sing, and I choke often on foods. I think this is due to such a narrow bite. Got the wisdoms out today cause I obviously need more space in my mouth, and they were also impacted and sideways. What are your thoughts and recommendation? I’ll obviously go get consults but just curious if it’s often common to not just move jaws forward or back, but to also widen the “c”.. the upper and lower bites?
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I'm 10 days post-op and only had my lower jaw done. I chose the option to be wired shut and to not have hardware installed to lessen the risk of any nerve damage due to hardware. Today was my post-op appointment and my doctor removed the wires and I'm now switched over to bands. But since the appointment today the right side of my jaw is in so mich pain and I don't know why. The doctor said I can do a no chew diet but now I'm terrified to take the bands off to even try. When they cut the wires off and asked me to relax my jaw to open that is when the pain happened. I pray nothing is wrong on the right side of my jaw now. My next appointment is in 2 weeks. Until then I'm staying with the liquid diet. I'm too scared to take the bands off to try and eat mushy food.
how did you make out?
I'm doing ok now. Swelling is gone and eating solid foods. I'm still not eating any hard foods like nuts or hard candies as I'm being careful still. I still get muscle spasms on my left side of my cheek if I talk too much. My jaw muscles will also start to get sore if I chew for too long. My tmj pain symptoms haven't happened since surgery until about 2 weeks ago and it came back. So now I'm back to pushing the side of my jaw joint in when I yawn so it doesn't pop out and hurt me. I hope I won't end up needing the tmj joint replacement surgery. As far as looks go I'm sad with my new face because since moving my lower jaw back the skin on my jawline droops a little and in my neck area as well. So I'm thinking once I'm fully healed I may have cosmetic surgery to fix that. I've come this far and have gone through so much pain I may as well be happy with my results and have some cosmetic correction.
@@intoxologist1 it gets better, i'm just over a year and I'm still trying to figure out how to eat with this new jaw alignment and my front teeth can finally rip food lol
I have OA in my jaw from injury 30+years ago. This is in the plan for next year. Very nervous
Dear Surgeon,
In the Orthognathic Jaw surgery discipline, I am curious to know What are the Pre-Operations instructions and all the Side effects the doctor/surgeon must tell his patient to be aware of before the patient makes his/her decision to accept the operation which helps the patient to avoid itself from any future unexpected serious health issues and probably a cause to open sue against the surgeon ?!
I am Very Grateful for Answering my questions in advance!
Most people complain particularly about #TMJ problems after surgery! I mean Must the surgeon inform this possible side effect before the operation or not necessarily?! Do I kindly need your expertise response to this particular question?! Thank you!🙏
I’m victim of malpractice by Federico Hernández Alfaro (maxillo Monkey-facial Institute in Barcelona). Looking for an experienced professional for the revision this time.
did they mess your jaw up?
ngl some of his results do look like apes Lol
Hello thank you for making this video. Is this intervention better done before or after being pregnant?
I’m also wondering if I could show you the picture of the x-ray I have
Sure of course. Email or message me.
Im a female and 75 i cant open my mouth much my bottom teeth comes overmy top and my chin sticks way out am i a canidate or do i have to stay like this forever and of everything else i have no top teeth please talk to me i dont know what to do
Derek steinbacher sounds familiar
I think you wrote a text on orthognathic surgery?
I had this surgery 2 months back and i dont know what went wrong my lips (because of which my lower teeth are visible now at rest )are still not competent i have an open bite now and my lower jaw looks like it is deviated to one side. They completely screwed up my occlusion and i am going to have another surgery next month to correct it. I really hope everything goes alright
Update? Did it work out?
It can help to ease OSA??!!?! I'm a patient with bilateral cleft lip and palate and I have sleep apnea - I already need the surgery for the CLP but now that I know it can help OSA I'm certainly more excited. SHEESH.
Sir.rib cartilage harvesting. For nose surjery.last before 3 months post op still pain in lower right side rib area.this pain suffered my long live life sir.please 🙏 tell me sir
Dr whether our upper jaw is connected to brain ?? Is there any problem in future because of jaw surgery??
Great video! Thank you sir
Thanks for the comment
This was so informative. Do you perform SARPE surgery?
Yes!
Can you please tell if MRI scan can be used for cephalometric analysis and surgical planning instead of CT scan to avoid radiation risk...
Do these surgeries help improve cheek bones and general maxillary projection? My maxilla is flat so my teeth look quite small and dark. I am already pretty but I would like a surgery for permanent aesthetic improvement. I do have sleep apnea but my overbite isn’t terrible and my teeth wouldn’t need more than a year of treatment to straighten the crooked teeth
Great video !!!
Could u do a video on open bite and jaw surgery?
And does sleep bruxism affect jaw surgery? Like if a patient has that, wouldn't that affect the healing and be traumatic to the jaw?
Thanks..
that's what I had, open bite surgery upper and lower
Thank you doc tor this vidéo !
Hello Sir! Thank you for a very informative video. The insecurity I have about my face is that, when I speak, my teeth are not at all visible. I would say both my upper and lower lips are big. What is the best way for me to treat this problem. Can I solve my problem with an invasive method? What is the normal procedure/treatment approach, for a patient facing this problem? Thanks in advance!
I had jaw resectioning without surgery 10 days ago and from yesterday i have realy bad pain. Just wander if it is normal?😢 should it be better after 10 days?
Is my 1 kidney enough for underbite jaw surgery 😭 I'm really suffering with this teeth
Hi I have guestion I have tmj uneven jaw and overbite I want fix. I get pain I. Temple on right size and discomfort around jaw it feels tight all time I get headaches because of it .eating food has been problem I have cut my food in small bite or eat soft foods that will not cause discomfort when I even crew my right jaw is higher then left side . Do not know how that happen never had my jaw broken at all not even when I been in few fights .I told my tmj doctor when I had head injury 20 years ago due to someone jump me from behind hit me with 40 Oz beer bottle full of beer.i was in medical coma for it .when I was in coma the doctors had wire my mouth open I guess for me breathe or eat food so I wonding if that could cause uneven jaw .other guestion I have how take med for pain if jaw wire shut .do doctor have patients tale soft gels medicine that can goe threw straw ?I know same for food as well take few weeks for it jaw operation to heal also after that happen is there some rehab they have go threw get jaw back into working shape.i also hear people who have medicad insurance they may not cover it because it cosmetic surgery fir jaw is that true I not having face lift .or anything else people in Hollywood always do loom young or improve some area .I been wanting fix my overbite since I was little but could not come up with money .my overbite overlap my bottom by good mom I guessing 9 or more some people I hear before they had jaw operation had uneven jaw or overbite they had discomfort in cheekbone and temple. Is that because of overbite and uneven jaw .hoping hear from u soon
Email or call me or another surgeon !
I need Orthognatic surgery and need more information
Hello! What would u say is the recommended age for getting jaw surgery to fix facial asymmetry? What age is considered too young?
Thank u in advance 🙏🏼
Hi there. It depends on the type of jaw malposition; and gender - females typically done growing sooner and can thus have the procedure sooner. Message me an I can give you more info:details
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 May I know where I can message you?
Wathurtbottle _ Instagram @dereksteinbacher or email info@dereksteinbacher.com
Can you get a cervical disc herniation from orthognathic surgery, or make one worse?
I have a 3-level cervical spinal fusion from C4-C7 from 2015. I have a disc herniation above the fusion at the C3-C4 and a bulging disc under the fusion at the C7-T1. I'm a female in my late 40's. I have a severe overbite. I'm noticing it's getting worse as I age. My bottom teeth are banging against my top teeth and gums when I chew and I have headaches most of the time. I also have severe sleep apnea and use a cpap. My teeth aren't crooked at all, just the overbite.
Orthodontists recommend metal braces, no plastic aligners for me, and orthognathic surgery for the upper, lower jaw and chin. I saw one orthognathic surgeon about a year after my surgery and he cautioned against getting jaw surgery because of my cervical spine. He recommended I just do the braces. The orthodontist says it doesn't work like that, only the surgery would get you the proper results.
I've searched online for articles about getting orthognathic surgery after a spinal fusion and haven't found anything. Why can't your spine be protected during the surgery? Is it truly a contraindication?
I'm going to have this surgery like in a month and I'm super nervous about it..idk I'm just concerned about the nerve injury which is the main complication of this surgery. I'll have mandibular advancement maybe bsso surgery. I'm too nervous 🥺
I'm a month out too. Best of luck. I'm honestly terrified!!
@@johnhess9443 heyy! Don't be terrified..it's almost 2 months post my surgery and trust me you won't regret and have faith on your doctors. I know 2-3 weeks would be challenging as you won't be able to eat. But have patience and all the best for your surgery.
@prernasharma2714 Thank you so much for taking the time to reply!! I really needed to hear that : )
I'm happy to know your recovery is going well and you don't regret it! I'll keep this in mind when I get those little waves of doubt and panic haha. I really, really appreciate it!! All the best.
Many years ago I had a bilateral sliding osteotomy of the mandibular rami with genioplasty. Scarring was minimal and I was very happy with the outcome. My surgeon recommended the external approach to avoid the risk of nerve damage. My recovery was rapid. How often do you use the external approach to correct Class III prognathism today? Just curious.
What is the external approach?
@@xristinarose2409 Rather than an incision inside the mouth, the jaw is modified through an external incision.
@@michaelmontague8903 Does it leave a scar?
Insignificant scarring. The procedure worked very well for me. @@hynkie
If you are 60 and need orthognathic surgery, and most of your lower jaw teeth won't resist braces, would you recommend implants, or lower denture? can you extract the teeth and customize the denture or implants after surgery?
I had SARPE surgery in July 2022 and am still wearing braces, which I've had for a year and a half. I'm having a Le Forte 1 osteotomy towards the end of the year to bring my maxilla forward slightly. I'm already 60 years of age. I'm just wondering if my cheekbones will look flatter after all the numbing's gone down, and is my nose likely to appear a bit wider? If so, what can be done about this please? They didn't do any CT scans for my SARPE.
What is the name of the song in the background?
He says the titanium plates can stay “forever” most of the time? Does anyone know of plates like this need replacement? Like what if I plan to live until I’m 104?
Mine will come out.
No point living after 50 tbh
Some people want them removed. And they can safely be removed after the bones heal.
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 I want mine removed. It’s causing me to have a lisp. So the surgeon is removing it this month. Tell you the truth this surgery has been a struggle.
What if the problem causing uneven lower jaw is caused by trauma to the head at birth which depresses one of the forehead bones?
How to find the right orthognatic surgen? and what are the costs if you have no insurance? Thank you
I had accident and fracture my right and left mandible jaw. I had surgery on right side with titanium plate and had arch bars with elastic on mouth on 10th December 2022,more than 3 weeks.I am on liquid diet from almost a month. When I will be able to eat solid foods.??
Why do they have to break the jaws? can you please describe the process more?
Question: if my occlusion is good and I don’t have an overbite but my lower jaw is recessed, am I a candidate for double jaw surgery or will a genioplasty do the job? Because in order to keep the bite the same you have to advance the upper and lower jaws the same amount. However this will still mean that the lower jaw is recessed to the same degree relative to the upper jaw. So how do surgeons fix the skeletal class II without changing the already normal occlusion?
Can someone explain to me when can I go back to work after the surgery? Train? Be normal?
I've had braces for 8 years now. The lady who done all my mouth work before leaving her job messed everything up. The new guy corrected everything then covid hit. Get my surgery tomorrow less than 18 hours away Only doing research now lol
I have a septal perforation that cannot be fixed with a button. Does that mean I am at risk with Djs
Where is your practice located, I would like to come in for a consultation
Email info@dereksteinbacher.com
Very informative. Thank you
Thank you. More videos coming soon!
If your mandible is recessed but you have a perfect bite the only two options are 1. genioplasty or 2. DJS+CCW, right?
It depends on your occlusal plane. Mandibular plane and objectives - both aesthetically and functionally.
when you mention diffrences to the nose appearance is there major differences if just having a lower jaw surgery?
Not usually w lower jaw only.
Just had double jar surgery on going on week 8 post op just hot the ok to go on soft chew
I have an oblong face shape. Is it possible to change it into a more rectangular face shape(a more square face shape)?
Would I have to widen my mandible and cheekbones?
No, unless you are a case of retrognathia where ur mandible is setback.
Surgery only changes position. Not the bone’s shape itself. You need Mandibular implants,
Or maybe blast Steroids like Conor mcgregor did. Might lose ur hair tho
No, unless you are a case of retrognathia where ur mandible is setback.
Surgery only changes position. Not the bone’s shape itself. You need Mandibular implants,
Or maybe blast Steroids like Conor mcgregor did. Might lose ur hair tho
@@maalikserebryakov I've heard that implants on the mandible and cheekbones can widen the face.
Yes
I'm in Florida. What should I look for in a surgeon? I understand procedure and methods vary.
easiest way is to ask him how imporatnt he thinks aesthetics are. if he says no, fart at him and move to the next one.
tehres many idiot scalpel kiddies in the UK who are obsessed with occlusion no matter how deformed they make their patients look
I have seen the end results of people that have had this done, and I think it’s a life changer. The health benefits are lifelong; it’s never been considered as a cosmetic procedure, that is just a side effect.
Hi Dr., I'm almost a year post op orthognathic surgery yet my entire mouth feels very tight, my nose is constantly flaring and I feel a lot of pressure on my upper teeth/gums. I really think it's the plates near my upper jaw nasal area that's causing all these issues. And yet, my doctor refuses to remove the plates saying it will widen my nose even after alar cinch and there are risks of tissues and muscle damage. I hate my flaring nose. Is it really going to widen my nose if my plates are removed? Thanks.
I have my surgery tommorow morning. Upper and lower jaw. My bite is perfect but my mouth is always open. From xrays my jaw line is going down and restricted airway. Even worse when my mouth is complety open when sleeping. Nose is working fine and has no problems but since the airway right under my toungue is to small my body uses the mouth for air some reason. Have bad snoring no matter how i lay and sleep apnea. Pretty nervous but got to do it. Im 36 and not overwright. I trsin everyday.
I bet you love your new closed mouth and breathing
How did it go? My mouth is always open and I’m considering jaw surgery. Did it fix it? Would you recommend?
@ hi it fixed my
Mouth breathing.
@jillybeanc it went well. It's now been 8 months. It sucked for sure. It's still tingling a little in my jaw and bottom lip but getting better. My mouth is always closed and I don't snore anymore. It's gonna suck especially the first 2 months but you just have to embrace it. If I had to do it again I wouldn't bu I'm glad I did it because I know later in life it will help my health. I'm also still not use to my bite and I still don't habe the same power I use to in my bite. I'm guessing that will come later. My jaw,muscles and bite are all new. If you have any questions let me know.
Can I have double jaw surgery with missing teeth and bone loss at the back? And teeth shifting that the NHS haven't mentioned.
Your teeth have to be straight, 99% of the time you need braces on for the surgery and after to keep it all in place
@@elvisisalive2716 They're straight but back molars facing downwards. Surely when jaws moved they will knock into the teeth above and be uncomfortable
@@TaxingIsThieving I had to have a few teeth removed , before surgery. I had 4 wisdom and 2 rear molars removed, you may be different. Good luck!
I have mandibular fibrous dysplasia. I just had surgery. Is it normal that my submandibular glands are swollen? Tks!
It can be yes. Make sure you are drinking enough and well hydrated
Wow thank you so much for this 💗
Thanks for the comment. We will add more material soon.
I got double jaw surgery and nobody warned me about thr nose! It got crooked, im unable to breathe at night and way worse at day and it is ugly and distorted. Now to fix this, i'll have to pay again and it won't be covered by insurance since it counts as plastic surgery. Im absolutely devastated about it. Yes they did fix my jaw and i can eat now, but i cant breath properly!! I honestly dont understand how this is ok
6mo after jaw surgery is now a good time for rhinoplasty.
Insurance companies are evil. Did you try a sleep study? Might be a way to change it to a medical surgery.
Sir I have a question, with what type of equipment do "cut" the bone, I suppose it's some electric mini saw that causes vibrations throughout the skull? I ask this because I have severe myopia and I'm afraid of a retinal detachment, again.
Sir how can I book an appointment with you.
email me info@dereksteinbacher.com
I had extraction ortho as a teen. As a result my airway is very narrow. I have a class 1 bite though. been told by ted belfor I need DJS. I have TMD, how is TMJ dysfunction managed with Djs? Thank you !
How come they remove the 3rd molars ?
Yes and or they are unusable or out of occlusion.
It’s been 3 years and I’m still in orthodontist but to be fair my teeth,bite and underbite are all a issue.
Hello sir, which books I should read to learn Orthognathic surgery? I am OMFS @ 🇮🇳
Haha. Read my book- “aesthetic Orthognathic surgery and rhinoplasty”. The other great ones are the Bell 3-volume set. And really any other book you can find on orthognathic surgery.
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638 Thank you sir ☺🙏
@@dr.dereksteinbacher8638lol
What do you think of Posnick’s
Will your bones hurt every year in cities that have freezing winters? I’ve had broken bones and they hurt during the winter.
No not all all
I'm on day 12 recovery double jaw surgery. Swelling gone, lips are 80% better than day one, still numb but getting better every day. Not sore at all anywhere, stopped T3's after day 4. I iced like crazy the first 10 days, now i'll switch to heat to try and stimulate the lips lol
@@N1XAFPS just a bit on the bottom lip, eating soft foods like a boss now lol.
@@elvisisalive2716how much kg you lost?
@@richardanderson7135 I lost probably 8-9kg , gaining it all back now. Now that I can take in protein, much easier to stack the weight.
Thats insane that swelling is gone after 12 days😭
@@user-bw8ej4yx4e yes totally gone, after the last 3.5 months the only thing remaining is a bit of numbness on bottom lip. Crazy how I thought I would be bothered by pain, but it was just the new jaw position that messed me up with eating etc.
Can you have ceramic plates instead of the titanium plates ?
Not usually. There is a resorbable plate option that can be used at times. Or if you don’t like the idea of permanent titanium plates they can be removed once the bones heal.
I’ve been told I may need 4 premolar extractions to decompensate my upper and lower incisors so the jaws can be advanced properly, even though I have no crowding. Is this a normal practice?
Would orthognathic surgery also be helpful in order to eliviate ramus asymmetry/an asymmetric facial midline? Can you do this surgery even if you don‘t have severe bite problems?
Average cost in this field?
Will those titanium implants provide a skull stability which is as high as the natural bone structure?
Hi there. Yes asymmetry or other aesthetic concerns without bite issues can be powerfully addressed w orthognathic. It is a very powerful aesthetic set of procedures while at the same time opening your breathing (and correcting the bite in many cases)
Hi. May i ask how much could this possibly cost?
How long is the recovery time . For sleep apnea as an indication , how soon can one expect to see improvement in sleep apnea scores and symptoms.
probably 2 months total to be eating somewhat normal, but your new bit will feel off. I'm almost 2 years since the surgery and I'm still learning how to chew with my new choppers lol. Can't speak to the apnea but I haven't snored since and I also now sleep and spend every day with my mouth closed , no more snoring and my energy is 100% better. I was a mouth breather my entire life, then I had the surgery.. and boom... closed mouth since.
Dr i have really subhuman Downward jaw rotation
Is it over for me
Anyone else experiencing nasal issues after their jaw surgery? It's been years, but I'm still having a hard time with breathing. Thankfully, I didn't experience any pain after recovery even though vicodin was prescribed to me.
I need help getting this done