Sidney Moncrief asked who was the toughest person he ever guarded .
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Michael Jordan fans will spend so much time typing onine trying to convince everyone that Michael Jrodan is the number 1 NBA player who has ever played in the NBA, and then when you invite them to go on a podcast to show there facts that Michael Jordan is the number 1 NBA player of all time, most of them will type things like well there's no point.
That is because they are scared, gutless, internet smart guys, internet tough guys and most importantly they are scumbag Michael Jordan fans.
Bullshit Darius. Jordan won 5 of his 6 championships and conference championships against teams that had fewer Hall of Famers than his team. The 1 championship he did win against more Hall of Famers was against an old Isaiah Thomas. Jordan’s team went from 57 wins with him to just 55 wins the next season during his first retirement. The year he joined the bulls, he took them from 28 wins the previous season to 37 wins. Tell me, Is your GOAT just worth 2 games or 9 games?
Larry Bird took a piss poor Indiana State team to the NCAA finals on a 33-0 record. He took his Celtics from 27 wins to 61 wins in his rookie season. He dragged his Celtics to the 1987 finals even with 6 teammates out injured. See my GOAT is worth many more games than yours.
Jordan dunks well, i give you that.
@@MrAntwun Because Jordan's nuts live comfortably in this dude's mouth.
@@dubbrown5594 Mike's nuts live in that guy's mouth. That's damn near all he ever talks about.
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Sidney did everything -- shoot, rebound, defend. He gave full effort every minute of every game. That Arkansas team he led to the Final Four was one of the great college teams ever.
Sidney was nice! as was Alvin Robertson. Those Razorback guards could play some D. Loved them both
They called Andrew Toney the "Boston Strangler" for obvious reasons. 👏🔥
I'm old enough to have seen him play I'll bet most people reading this have not seen him play. Hell I bet most people reading this have not seen Sidney play hahaha no doubt. By the way the Lakers almost picked him over Magic but the owner wanted Magic
He was a series killer, but not a serial killer. I don't think Boston Strangler is a moniker anyone would want.
Way underrated when great players names come up! Sydney was a big time player, when he was healthy. From '82-'86, he was one of the best players in the league!
Sidney used to give my Cavaliers the BUSINESS back in the day. This guy could flat OUT BALL!!!!
As soon as Moncrief said 76ers, I said "Andrew Toney"! Andrew Toney was a beast! His handle was so tough! He could definitely beat you off the dribble or stop and pop!
It would have been Bucks vs. Celtics in the ‘81 playoffs had it not been for Toney.
I still have Moncreif's sport illustrated cover frame in my garage one of the best covers ever he was a beast👊
Cooper said the same thing about Andrew Toney. Bird has also given him tons of praise.
An excellent player, numbers don't tell the whole story of how good he actually was. That team with him Marques Johnson and Junior Bridgeman was tough.
I grew up a Philly 76er's fan (mostly because of Dr. J.). It seems like every year Philly would beat Milwaukee in the playoffs and then lose to Boston. Sidney Moncrief was such an impressive player, almost a one man gang. It was easy to like and appreciate him even when rooting against him. To hear him mention how good Andrew Toney was is very fitting. They were two of the greatest players to watch at the time with similar abilities. I wish there was a highlight reel of Sidney out there. Thanks for posting this video
The Boston strangler..one of my all time favorite guards..a true combo guard before his time. Barkley was asked this same question and he said the same player. Andrew Toney. His injury a stress fracture in his foot and horrible ownership ruined his career way too early smmfh
Yeah he's right on point love this man he played good ball
One of the best defenders in league history swept the Boston Celtics in 1983 slowed by injuries probably would make some all time teams. at Arkansas he teamed Ron Brewer and Marvin Delph to form The Triplets that went to the Final Four in 1978 a very underrated player.
i never disrespected any player by slacking ... i salute you mr. moncrief
Sydney Moncrief was one of the hardest to cover AND was a very good defender himself!
Won the 1st defensive player of the year award. Then he won the second one the next year.
Only guard to win DPOY multiple times
Andrew Toney was a great player. His injuries slowed him down, but in his prime his game was a precursor for Steph’s.
Great player from a great team 👏 we don't hear enough about them
My man loved watching him ball
THe East was absolutely a MONSTER back then. Boston, Philly, Milw. Toney was a UNIT and so was Bernard King. And of course Bird. How incredibly stacked the EAST was back then is a tribute to Bird's 3 Championships. Way way way harder to get out of the East than the West back then.
no doubt the east was tough back then and I can say Milwaukee should've reached the finals at least once but their competition was too tough.
But for the West, it wasn't a exactly a cake walk with the Spurs, Mavericks, Rockets, and teams coming on like Phoenix and Portland. Isn't it funny that in Jordan's case, they say "the east was tough but Jordan stopped all of them" but when it comes to the 80s, the Lakers aren't given the same praise for not allowing the Mavericks and other teams to advance?
Sidney Moncrief was a great, great player whose career was unfairly cut short by injuries. A class act all the way.
Andrew Tony was my favorite player back in the day. Dude looked like he wanted to kill someone.
Head to head vs M.Jordan in regular season, Moncrief scored just 14.6 ppg with 48.6% in 22 games. Jordan 51.6% and 31.6 ppg.
In 4 playoffs games Moncrief was 54.9% vs 43.6%, 26.5 vs 29.3 ppg, not bad for the 1st playoffs series of a rookie M.Jordan vs a two times winner of defensive player of the year.
What happened later shows that Jordan was able to learn a bit in the process.
It is amazing how so many Michael Jordan fans write the same old ridiculous things then.
This is like the 4th vid of former NBA greats talking about this guy Andrew Toney in same breath as Michael Jordan. I remember he played for Sixers a short time before injuries ended his career. Apparently he left a big impression.
this was my first time hearing of sidney. i grew up in the 90’s cool video. All those things he said Mj couldn’t do, he worked on and did them in the 90’s… always cool the see how good the other players was because we only here about the champs 80’ lakers, celtics, and pistons
Sydney, forgotten great. He was one of the best of all time. Toney would have been in the HOF had his feet not failed him.
Sidney shoulda had been on the 50 All Time Greats list and the 75 All Time,but atleast he's in da HOF which is the Ultimate Honnor.
Only the greatest NBA players could play at the highest levels when facing the best competition on the biggest stage. Andrew Toney is absolutely one of the greatest players ever. He played lights out against both the Lakers and the Celtics giving unbelievable performances. Master of the three point line when he wasn’t taking it straight to the basket over the top defenders. On his way to legendary status when poor management and ownership derailed his career making him play injured. Very rare the stress fractures that plagued him. A healthy Andrew Toney would have given us memorable matchups against MJ and the Pistons that were rising to the top just as he retired. Probably would have been in top 25 and HOF. Both feared and revered by his peers.
Toney was one of my all time favorite players. He fit perfectly with the Sixers. Great one on one player. Sidney was a great all around player. Those Bucks teams were very good. Couldn't get past the Sixers though.
He was a killa! Hands down, a killla! The Achilles injury sorta ruined his career.
I knew he was gonna say Andrew Tony! People don’t remember that the bucks were as good as the Celtics and the 76ers, they don’t remember the wars toney and moncrief had. I’ll never forget those three teams all fighting for the right to play the Lakers! The bucks were just the odd man out, they never quite made it, but they more than deserved to.
I remember those 80s Bucks teams..they were terrific..they just had the misfortune of playing in the Celtics/Sixers era
The bucks are definitely underated, they couldn't get past the monsters in the east. They swept Boston one yr and lost to the sixers, very good bucks team
Exactly! I like the players that go left and go right
Thanks glad to see him
Woe, Andrew Toney. Terrific player that had he's career cut short due to the knee injuries.
But make no mistake, this dude was bad! Like really A BAD MAN!
And Sidney Moncrief was another terrific player that could do it all.
3 of the best defensive guard to enter the NBA was Sidney Moncrief, Darrell Walker & Alvin Robertson all from the University of Arkansas.
Andrew Toney was an absolute scoring machine. He was a major reason the 76ers swept the Lakers in the 1983 finals.
If Worthy wasn't injured the Lakers wouldn't have been swept. 1989 NBA Finals- Magic and Scott were injured. 1991 NBA Finals- Scott and Worthy were injured as well.
@@Trancymind Yes I agree. If not for those injuries the Pistons and Bulls probably wouldn't have those championships. The 76ers may not have swept the Lakers but I believe they still would have won the series.
@@chrisoakley5830 I agree with you. Imagine if Pippen and Grant got injured in the 1991 NBA Finals? The outcome would have been differently.
I was in junior high when that SI cover of him with the Razorbacks I had it on my wall for years i was devastated when they lost to Indiana state
Sidney Moncrief seems like a cool dude.
Toney gave Moncrieff real trouble in two playoff series in the early 80s. Outplayed him
SM was great. His Bucks were just a whisker behind the 76ers, Showtime Lakers, and the Big 3 Celtics.
It’s about damn time they put Andrew Toney in the hall of fame!!
Sidney Moncrief also said “The reason I was so consistent is I looked at every player as a Michael Jordan or Andrew Toney and I played them the same way I would play one of the all-star, greatest player “. 🤔 🤔
Exactly. This isn't Moncrief trying to disrespect Jordan or say he isn't as good as Toney. This is Moncrief trying to show someone love with a shout.
@@John6-40 mj is still very young
Dick Vitale and Moncrief have an interesting connection.
Vitale had just become coach of the Pistons, the year Michigan St won the National Championship. Vitale loved Greg Kelser and Vitale wanted to draft Kelser...but...Detroit had the 4th pick and Vitale thought for sure Milwaukee with the 3rd pick would pick Kelser.
Vitale got the Piston owner to give Milwaukee a million dollars to swap picks..so Detroit could move up to number 3 and pick Kelser.
Milwaukee never had any intention of taking Kelser....they wanted Moncrief the whole time.
Sidney Moncrief was the best “2 guard” in the NBA from 1982-86. He was injured in 1987 (playing in only 30 games) and tried to play a few more (partial seasons), but was not even close to his prime/peak self. Andrew Toney was also plagued with injuries and was probably the 2nd best “2 guard”, when healthy, in the NBA from 1982-1984. If these two men had stayed healthy through the late 80’s, they would have been right there with MJ as the best “2 guard” in the league.
All due respect to Moncrief and Toney, but no. Just no.
Andrew Toney had he stayed healthy, top 50 easily, he was that tough
Andrew Toney was no joke. All the great players knew what time it was.
GREAT VIDEO SIR!
The boston Strangler Aka
Andrew Toney 1 of my favorite SG's
Really a Bad Man
Andrew Toney was on the way to be a perennial all-star , unfortunately injuries derailed that.
Koolest NBA name......Sidney Moncrief
Should name the DPOTY after him
Great player.
The Boston stranger!!! If they had modern medicine, he would have had a full career…. Most underrated player ever
Sidney's Bucks were the best team not to win a championship. They had the misfortune of playing during the 1980s, when the all -time best teams (in the 2 point game) were also playing - the Celtics, Lakers and Sixers Toney was at his best when the Sixers were playing the best - the Celtics, Lakers and Bucks. He was the leading scorer in the 1982 Finals against the Lakers, despite being at times double and tripled teamed. Michael Cooper and Larry Bird have said things about Toney similar to what Sidney was saying.
My man once I seen him play on college I was like yup my favorite all-time player he had a very good team when he was in college and when he was at Milwaukee oh man good team he played some great ball but what he said about Andrew Tony he was pretty much right he was pulling up on Andrew toney was burning any and Played good defenses well and can handle the ball
Jordan and Moncrief faced off 26 times. Jordan destroyed him in every statistical category.
Moncrief:
.494 shooting
16.5 points
3.0 rebounds
3.9 assists
0.92 steals
0.23 blocks
Jordan:
.514 shooting
31.2 points
6.2 rebounds
6.1 assists
2.38 steals
1.23 steals
Jordan was 16-10 in these games, despite Moncrief and the Bucks going 8-4 against Jordan in his first 2 years, when Jordan was a rookie and also coming off a big injury and barely playing 2 of those games.
Wanna wager that Andrew Toney didn't fare as well? Wanna put money on that?
Why you so scared to go on my pdocast to show everyne that you are right and I am wrong then?
fuck this clown's pod bro...the stats you put up says it all...lmaoooo
Andrew Tony was a killer. Even when you watch highlights of him today before the Achilles injury, I have no clue how to guard him. I think the best thing would be force him middle where there was help, and try to force him into being a passer.
Little known fact. Andrew Toney is related to James Toney, one of the greatest boxers ever. I have also heard Shaq is a cousin to James as well
Legend
Andrew Toney averaged 16 points against Moncrief. Jordan averaged 32 points on 53% shooting. And the Bulls were 15-7 in that span. But I guess guys are tired of saying Jordan.
Andrew Toney is the only player that would consistently destroy Michael Cooper. Keep in mind Cooper won dpoy honors. Toney was no joke, and the celts hated to see him in uniform.
Same for me I love scoring more than anything. But I'm such a great passer and defender.. I just end up doing that
MJ used to destroy Sidney Moncrief as a rookie...... Andrew Toney ( The Android) was nasty a scoring machine when he was hot.. but MJ was on another level. For Sidney to say he knew MJ tendencies is like seeing a cloudy day and saying its going to rain...yes ..its going to rain..... but you cant stop it.😆
Ha. Exactly! 🤣🤣🤣
The Boston strangler!!!!!
Ahhh Tony very good
Moncrief doesn't even look like the same guy who played. Looks like he has a totally different face now.
I thought he might say someone from the sixers but it wasn’t Andrew toney. I used to study guys like toney, Eddie Johnson, and Bernard king because they were cold blooded 3 level scorers
Howard is here to play ! -- He only has 1 year left - and hie resume can't be overlooked ? -- Not sure those other QB's realize it - hopefully they believe it's a competition. -- If they do - everybody wins in that scenario because they will improve ! 🤗
Larry Bird.
Don't think Bird was easy to guard either!
Yes he was very easy to guard, MJ will lock down Bird and score on him so easily without even trying.
10× scoring champion
9× nba all defensive first team
1× dpoy
3× steals leader
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Bird was super difficult to guard but Moncrief was usually matched up against big guards, not 6'9" front court players like Bird.
@Eternal Boss Judgement Day 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Moncrief locked down Bird in second half of NCAA Round of 8 game college game. Arkansas lost with guy named Heaton falling to the floor (travelled but not called) throwing up a prayer shot that went in.
@@donthompson3484 ...but it went down. Don't disrespect Bird. He's a top 5 player!
So strange finally hearing him speak after all these years. I hated that man, he gave my Sixers fits back in the day😂
He didn’t say Jordan cause guarding Jordan didn’t exist. 30 a night 🔥
Jordan shot almost 50% for his career with the Chicago Bulls which is pretty good. The Bulls franchise was a joke before Jordan was drafted in 1984, but he doesn't get enough credit for making the playoffs right away with a subpar team. The older Moncrief was guarding a younger Jordan who was just super athletic at that time, but once Jordan added the mid range, incredible footwork, fade away, and post up game it was over for Moncrief and the rest of the NBA. Jordan's last year with the Bulls at age 35 won everything except DPOY, but he was in 4Th place for DPOY. Jordan also ended his career with the most accolades in NBA history with 22 and second closest is Bill Russell with 17. Becoming the Goat is a marathon not a sprint!!!!!
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@@theuniversegalaxynba The NBA, the Athletic, and ESPN currently still have Jordan number 1 (Goat). Jordan played in the triangle offense which requires ball movement and not one player dominating the ball. Once Jordan trusted his teammates it was over for the rest of the NBA. You don't win 11 mvps if don't make your teammates better.
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Toney used to kill the Celtics
If you "knew" what Mike was gonna do, then how did he do what he wanted to do? I'm so sick of the disrespect of the GAOT!!!!!
He was not disrespecting MJ at all. He was simply explaining the tendencies of two players, and why one was harder to guard than the other. He is not saying that Toney was better than MJ, or that he shut down MJ. All great defensive players study the opposing players. He was explaining this very factually and accurately for the people in the audience. You obviously didn’t grasp what he was so eloquently articulating.
MJ never played against Toney in the playoffs and he did play against Moncrief one time. The Bucks beat the Bulls 3 games to 1. Sidney Moncrief held MJ to 44%FG and 13%3pFG and forced him into 4 Turnovers per game. MJ missed 44 shots due to Sidney’s defense. Moncrief only took 51 shots in 4 games. Moncrief shot 55%FG and 40%3pfg. He also shot 92%from the FT line as MJ shot 83%. Moncrief averaged 27ppg on 13 shots per game. MJ averaged 29 ppg on 20 shots per game. Sidney averaged less than 2 Turnovers per game. Sidney defended MJ much better than MJ defended Sidney. Mr. Moncrief was not wrong, or disrespectful, in his analysis. This playoff series proves that.
Did he play college ball for the Arkansas Razorbacks?
MJ is by far the most unguardable player of all time 😎😎😎
@Eternal Boss Judgement Day 10 scoring titles, highest scoring average and PER in regular season and postseason History, played all 82 regular season games 10 times in his career.
By far the most unguardable and greatest offensive force that has ever played 😎😎😎
MJ cannot be shut down but he can shut down other stars, 9 nba all defensive first team, 1988 dpoy, 3× steals leader 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lots of unguardable players; Bernard King, Alex English, Kareem, MJ, Bird, Prime Doc, etc
@Eternal Boss Judgement Day Players who are unguardable don't fail to win a title in more than 60 percent of seasons played. Only Bill Russell and some of those 60's Celtics guys have a better championships won to seasons played ratio than Jordan, so Jordan is more ungaurdable than whoever your guy is.
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@Eternal Boss Judgement Day Still 6-0 in the Finals
MJ never played against Toney in the playoffs and he did play against Moncrief one time. The Bucks beat the Bulls 3 games to 1. Sidney Moncrief held MJ to 44%FG and 13%3pFG and forced him into 4 Turnovers per game. MJ missed 44 shots due to Sidney’s defense. Moncrief only took 51 shots in 4 games. Moncrief shot 55%FG and 40%3pfg. He also shot 92%from the FT line as MJ shot 83%. Moncrief averaged 27ppg on 13 shots per game. MJ averaged 29 ppg on 20 shots per game. Sidney averged less than 2 Turnovers per game. Sidney defended MJ much better than MJ defended Sidney. Mr. Moncrief was not wrong, or disrespectful, in his analysis. This playoff series proves that.
A rookie MJ, let’s remember that.
Moncrief was definitely one of the best shooting guards ever and would have been even greater if not for his knees deteriorating later in his career