You really got to hand it to Reddit's CEO. He stuck to one idea, found every excuse for refusing to budge, and blamed Redditors for all of Reddit's problems. He really is a Redditor, through and through.
Asking a Redditor to stay away from Reddit for more than 48 hours is like asking a Twitter user to stay away from spewing an awful take for more than 48 hours.
Completely agree. I’m glad that the only social medias I kept is RUclips (I love watching documentary videos and videos like Moist’s) and insta were I may not post, but it keeps me contacted with friends I’ve made in South Africa and Canada… people lose their damn minds on social medias and become so obsessed that it becomes their life and it’s so so sad and embarrassing
@@_fruitl00pz I think I understand it. Subreddits are maintained by the mods, and the communities that have developed are put at risk of entirely dissolving if potentially all of the people who have an intimate understanding of their subreddit communities are stripped of their ability to moderate.
The only thing that frustrates me is the fact the CEO laughed in their face, literally saying "Nah trust me, they're addicted, they'll be back in a few days" and these dudes proved him right. He must have the biggest smug right now, ugh...
Of course they did, the kind of people who would be reddit mods are resentful no life nerds with no actual power, control or influence IRL. Being able to ban people arbitrarily from using a website is like crack to these people.
The reddit blackout was like when a child threatens to leave home and the parents just let it happen knowing full well they’ll be back in like an hour.
Even the protest itself felt like a child's tantrum. They could have stopped users from posting new submissions instead of privating the entire sub. The point was to get people off the main feed of a sub, which is the only place that ads play. If you stop new submissions, that would remove all purpose of the feed, stopping people from going there, thus no ads would load. . . BUT STILL ALLOW OLD POSTS TO BE VIEWABLE!!!! Like, the "way" most of them were protesting (because some of them actually DID do it the way I said they should have above) was the most backwards "lets hurt users and stop them from actually using the site" method possible of protesting. When you start closing down public roads, that's no longer a protest, that's an outright riot.
@@Hadeks_Marow There would still be old content on your feed though, right? By fully privating the subreddits they fully reduced a huge chunk of traffic on the site which is just another layer to the protest
@@Hadeks_Marow >When you start closing down public roads, that's no longer a protest, that's an outright riot. That is how all protests have to be. The idea of a peaceful protest is nonsense because a peaceful protest is a protest with no power.
Reddit mods were just given the greatest opportunity they'll ever have to prove the "Reddit mod" stereotype wrong, and instead they reinforced it. Truly poetic.
@@flashmozzg what are you talking about, a lot of those subs are back up, and the posts on top and hot are still getting 50k + votes. protest did nothing. it failed. the mods of subs are actually following admins orders to open subs back up. its fucking funny.
@@BottlebitzReddit admins removed head mods the refused to open subs, assigned whatever other people that complained about subs being shut down, and opened subs by force
I think this is a good example of the danger with monopolies. If Reddit had a good competitor, all users would have left for it and Reddit would have inevitably backed down. This was a prime opportunity for a platform to position itself as competition to Reddit.
But there are competitors, like saidit. It is just that the prime reason to use reddit is content. And reddit has hit critical mass such that no other site will have enough content to compete with them, and thus moving to those other sites will not be worth it.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Well during the blackout, reddit basically had 0 content, so however little content on a rival platform would still be better. Not to mention 48hrs is enough time to generate a decent amount of content, at least/especially for the bigger subreddits, who would also be the ones to cause panic for the company the most.
@@Xicor.We've seen this attempted and failed before, happened when that woman CEO got into power a few years back. The problem is that the alternatives created never lasted, they peaked as quickly as they dropped. People forgot about it
There are a ton of competitors. Forgive me for saying this, but ignorant people like you just don't bother looking for them. The level of naivete is staggering. What you _really want_ is a place that your friends tell you is cool, meaning a place that is already popular. That doesn't "just happen" overnight, you have to put in a small amount of effort and look for a place to make it popular over a long period of time. This kind of mentality is what led the "protesters" to go back to Reddit in the first place; you're no better than they are.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Reddit literally has no content by definition, unless you consider the text posts themselves to be valuable. There is no system in place for Reddit to serve files. It's literally just a text forum with links to other websites in every OP.
The whole point of a protest or strike is to boycott a service/company/person/entity indefinitely with the threat of permanence until said entity is willing to change/compromise/meet demands. A scheduled protest is the safest and non-impactful thing possible. These people can't stay off a single website for more than 2 days, good lord.
Redditors not being able to stay away for 24 hours is a perfect example of why Facebook will never fail no matter how much people claim they hate it and will leave it
Everyone just needs to get into a court case lol, that's what did it for me 😅 my attorney recommended deleting/closing social media accounts while I was fighting workers comp, took 1.5 years, but now that I can use it again I just have zero interest in it... now when I get on I'm like ew why?? 😂😂
not to mention that has alot of boomers with the cliche black and white picture with either two things, "cringe inspriational messages" or "i'm glad i'm not a liberal durrrr or a conservative durrrr, political scapegoat kinda post"
To be fair, every stereotype has been challenged over and over again and no one cares, just sticks with the stereotype. Jesus Christ himself could descend from the clouds and personally denounce a stereotype and people would still believe the stereotype
I used Reddit daily and after the 48 hour blackout I realized I don’t need it. Since the reddit ceo hasn’t reversed their new policy I’ve decided to quit using their site. The only productive use was keeping up with national and local news, but I’ve just switched to Apple News. I also switched to twitter for sports stuff and left everything else cause it was a waste of time. After leaving Reddit I can finally touch grass, thanks mr shite CEO
The best part about the blackout to me was that it got me off the site too, and I've found replacements for everything I got from there. But with the added bonus that I don't waste hours upon hours just mindlessly scrolling through there anymore. I at least do something, be it playing a game, reading a book or web novel, or just getting off my ass. Seriously, this limited strike might have reinforced the worst qualities of the people on the website, but it also freed the better people who actually want to live their lives like you or me!
@@l1ghtd3m0n3 being a fan of Arizona sports teams is perpetual hell and that’s the only thing I follow on twitter, so I’m not really losing anything except when posts give me hope they’ll win anything. So fuck, you’re right.
Did they really have the power to make a change though? Reddit would have just gotten new mods & reopened the subs lol. Obviously being a reddit mod is something plenty of no-lifes are foaming at the mouth for (especially the high-profile subs), so it would have literally been an easy spring cleaning replacement. Either way, Reddit was going to be back online by the end of the month, business as usual.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no nah mate this is the downfall of reddit. The site is definitely going to lose some users after this. The site API will be worse, place will be filled with bots and toxicity. Then after some more time the will find a way to cut down on something else to make more money making more people leave. This signed the end of reddit. If all or even most mods left with tools, it would be hard for redit to find mods because those mods would suck and make the platform even worse pushing even more people away. It will never be business as usual, it will be business in a dying site.
@@SRFAAI don't think anyone ever assumed reddit mods have any sign of intelligence, quite the opposite actually. But a lot of people on reddit are experts in a particular hobby and there are threads like r/askscience where there is always some kind of expert you can find on a topic.
@@g.3521 Yeah, but I mean it's not like people who are actually experts were represented by this protest or something. The protest was mainly led by a specific group of moderators, and not by the majority of Reddit users or the smartest ones.
Same, the mf reddit mods are some of the most pathetic people on earth. This is why I used boost to block their subreddits but with Third party apps going away. I'm afraid for what's to come.
Another day, another overblown 'internet boycott' that fails pathetically because the people most involved in it lack any kind of willpower or desire to do anything but feed their addictions. Colour me shook.
This is actually hilarious. Not only did it not work even a little but they actually just proved to the CEO he could do whatever the fuck he wanted by proving they are so easily controlled.
@@RobotronSage I've thought about this a lot. I hate corporations but my hate for reddit mods is actually higher. I consider this a win. The reddit CEO can force the reddit mods to sing and dance by threatening their mod powers 😂🤣🤣😂
It's funny because they are working for free and yet they wanted to strike, but went back to working for free for Reddit whilst it spat in their faces. Imagine being a mod
Fkn seriously. They should've called the corporation's bluff, then if reddit stole their 10k+ subs the mods would have popular opinion on their side again, continuing the protest in other ways 🤦🏼♀️ can't believe they just folded lol, so lame & a bad example for others protesting in the future.
I understand what you're saying, but imagine if you made a subreddit and then you were told it was going to be taken off you because you showed dissent against the company.
@@orga7777 People don’t want to do that though because there is genuinely useful things archived under a lot of subs, if not, historically significant posts. Nuking a sub would just be bad for everyone involved.
@@apenguininthemist855 LMFAO CALLING ME A CORPO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME. By historical events I mean peoples reactions to big world events as they unfolded in real time. A decades worth of tech help. Theory crafting and discussions for different series as they run/ran, and more. Would hurt Reddit, but would also hurt online preservation even more. Literally everyone who is continuing to use Reddit throughout all of this is displaying indifference to this entire scenario and has a certain level of enabling this. If you want a machine to stop working, then all parts have to stop doing their functions to make it stop working. This includes people still using the website and official app. We’ve seen this time and time again because of the communities need to consoom. This isn’t isolated to just Reddit communities being unable to stay off the app either lmfao. People still line up to empty their pockets to Activision Blizzard because knowing all the stuff that has came out because communities feel a need to consoom instead of just simply stopping and moving elsewhere. Now I’m not gonna blindly name call like you did, but can you at least see where I’m coming from?
The sad part of this is that it exposes just how addicted people are to platforms such as reddit, Twitter, etc. They can't go more than a few hours without their fix before they start tweaking.
tbh I haven't actually liked reddit in months, and this dumb decision finally woke me up and I got off the platform. Honestly feeling a lot better since I got rid of it
to be fair, there are only like 6 websites around anymore and reddit has the most distilled communities of any other platform. you can scroll through hashtags or facebook groups for a show of game you like, but guaranteed reddit is the place where the most actual discussion is had or useful info is given. it sucks, i miss forums, but i get why the users came back
As someone who casually uses Reddit just for some smaller communities, I did follow what was going on and supported the cause. But seeing the posts talking about why they weren’t going to go offline indefinitely, as well as all the comments agreeing saying they couldn’t handle not using Reddit was honestly so baffling and sad to me. It wasn’t just the mods, clearly even the users couldn’t handle being off Reddit for even 48 hours, they were so mad about the new policies but they barely did anything because they’re so reliant on it. Truly a Reddit moment
I'm not an avid reddit user, but I can't count the amount of times that I had an issue or needed some information and could only find it on reddit. While I am annoyed that I can't find what I'm looking for sometimes, I still support the protest. even still, when I go to find an answer to something on reddit all the posts that have the answer I need are blocked. It is a very effective protest in my perspective and I hope that it works.
Yeah; it's disheartening. Looking at the reopening threads or in subs that didn't go offline (e.g. the team-specific subs for r/nba), there are basically two types of comments: those that say that the mods chickened out of an indefinite private mode because they were missing their power trip and those that are furious that they couldn't use reddit for 2 whole days and the entire private mode was a mod power trip to begin with. Regardless of which side of the argument people were on, they all but ignored the original problem itself and focused on blaming the mods for everything. Reddit has spoken and the message is clear: "we don't care about corporate greed and will gladly take it as long as we can farm karma and meme on the mods".
the mods are getting a taste of their own power tripping medicine, Id say deserved, espeically when they showed they will come right back regardless of being angry. They are noise.
I don't like the change, but I think reddit has an unsurprising reason for the change. Ultimately, redditors are the product and the advertisers are their real customers.
It's not for no reason. Reddit only has two sources of income, advertisements and awards. People using the 3rd party apps don't see the adds, cutting out half their revenue (or probably more than half).
now there are ones that came back as nsfw so they can't get ads, reddit users is still in full fight mode, but the only way to know is to be on the actual app. r/interestingasfuck is now nsfw.
for anyone who doesnt know about what "turning mods against each other" meant, they made it clear that if one mod was willing to re-open the subreddits, they would become the head mod and the admins would remove all the other mods that want it closed. edit: no im not a mod. it was just talked about by the mods on several different subreddits
Even then , forcing reddit to do that for every protesting subreddit would have been such a bad look for Reddit , not to mention an absolute dump truck full of effort to replace all of them. (Which I think is good , make Reddit work for it and take the L they created instead of giving up )
@@st2udent_650 most people on Reddit didn't even care most of my subreddits were pissed they thought they could even go against the company they can very easily just replace them modding isn't hard
That’s crazy. Steve literally told them, “there is literally nothing impactful you can do, because you all NEED this site.” What’s crazier is that Steve was 100% right.
I’m always reminded of the anti work mod when I think of Reddit mods. If they wanted to really protest they should have all immediately quit their mod positions and let the subreddits collapse. Prove their perceived value and the value of the API
I had purged myself of social media except for Reddit. This blackout was the perfect opportunity for me. I didn't go on for 3 days. I went on yesterday, and after maybe 2 minutes I realized that I hated it and closed it for good lol. I guess I don't care what anyone else does but for I'm glad to be purged of the last social media site that I was using.
@@nik-challengeman383it kinda is though depending on what your definition of social media is, I mean like other social medias here I can also communicate with you like this by replying to your comment
If we consider every site that allows you to read and respond to someone's comments to be social media, then sure. That would mean New York Times, Investing, Ebay, Indeed, JCPenny, Amazon, porn sites, Walmart, etc etc are actually social media sites. My definition isn't that loose, but I can't argue with someone if that's the definition they want to use.
That's like the easiest thing to say in the entire world when you aren't involved or responsible. Like there is nothing more paper thin that can be contributed to this entire comment section.
@@Linixion it's the easiest thing to say because it's the truth. A majority of these people aren't even paid for what they do, they simply cling onto online power. What's the point of protesting if you cripple at the SLIGHTEST hint of losing a title on a website? Although I wasn't claiming to make any sort of ground breaking comment, so I don't know where you got that idea from lol. Ironically enough you've made your own comment just as paper thin and misguided as you claim mine is
To be fair though, say a subreddit mod does forfeit their position for the strike, then what? They’d be replaced by someone who doesn’t have the subs success in mind at all. Truthfully I think the way to successfully strike Reddit is for people to just uninstall the official app en masse, and just stop using Reddit. Users and mods alike. Just boycott by simply not using the website
@@roguewave5187 I'm not making a groundbreaking statement either, I'm very simply - without expectations for anyone to give a shit - expressing my frustrations at people sitting around making lame jokes. Almost any situation where people take sides and start blasting people in general terms they have contributed to the failure by being unsupportive, overly critical, and less concerned with accountability than their own fart of a joke at things they have nothing to do with and no stake in. Also I try to learn from people even when they say things that make me uncomfortable or that I naturally feel dismissive about. Kinda gives life more meaning, you know?
This is such a reddit mod move from the reddit mods to be able to bring so many people to your cause and on your side only to backtrack at the thought of losing your unpaid power
I thought my complete and utter disrespect for reddit mods couldn't be greater, but apparently, it can. Some fights are just evil versus evil, we don't really have a horse in the race.
My favorite is the antiwork subreddit that is so anti work that they decided to bow down to their corporate overlords and continue their free work. I guess the tiny amount of power was enough to give up their principles. Weird that money is not enough but being a reddit mod is.
The dichotomy is the empowerment of maintaining control and thus revolutionary direction, or losing it through rash dedication to a single avenue of protest. If you believe yourself to be a mouthpiece for the "essence" or ambitions of a community or movement, why abandon your position to what is essentially a puppet team of moderators who contradict the ideologies of the community itself when you could reevaluate a different way to protest (e.g., the malicious compliance of r/pics, r/gifs, r/iphone, r/aww, r/steam, r/wellthatsucks, etc. in an attempt to further disrupt the IPO of Reddit)?
The "turning mods against each other" is that if any of the mods of a sub agreed to reopen, the reddit admins would remove all the others and put that one mod in charge. Reddit dangled a carrot of the ultimate power trip and it worked.
I don't get why everyone seems to have this take. Reddit didn't just threaten to take away the power, they have already done it to a select subreddits, effectively saying that "If you don't stop protesting, then we will take away your power to protest" and the way everyone is saying "lol mods just gave up" is infuriating. Largest example I caught before I went to bed yesterday of a mod change was r/piracy which had a mod removed, forced opening and got a reddit added mod.
@@MigranBTWdon't you understand what you just said? It is exactly what Charlie and everyone has said, Reddit do have the power to change the mod and reopen the sub, the take is that they *gave up*, the mod team are so afraid that they're going to be removed that they open the mod themselves, no one ever said this is an empty threat, everyone know that the mod can be removed and reopen, the thing we make fun is the fact that they're so afraid to lose the mod position
@@ScileScexactly They can go to any other forum platform, collaborate, market it to grow users and make bad press for Reddit Instead they decided to undermine values they claimed to have and continue working... FOR FREE
i think the problem is these mods actually now have sunk so much of their time into being a reddit mod that the threat of having that simply ripped away from them is TERRIFYING, this truthfully is their life’s work.. and of course the ceo knows this, hence why he made that threat and didn’t even attempt to negotiate💀
Completely agree and see Charlie is being real close-minded by just minimizing a Reddit mod to a loser. Sure, there are mods like that but if all mods were like them, don't you think Reddit would have failed a lot sooner and this whole issue wouldn't have this much pushback if they were as bad as you assume they are? Also, it's kinda uncool to kick someone who's down. I've been on Reddit for over 10 years and have met mods that run cool, niche subs that have conversations and built relationships, bonding over their sub. Those are and the reason why I use Reddit. The default subs are shit but the ones with the loudest voice and make the most noise while us "normals" get boxed in with them. Honestly hate that everyone puts all Redditors down, in general.
We can see a similar thing happen with discord or twitch mods. It's one of the super unhealthy obsessions over "responsibilities" as if we would need a title to make other people on the internet respect us. Literal powertrip that's built on nothing but sand and dreams
What i also think fed into the meh-ness of the situation is the fact that a lot of normal users despise moderators, so seeing them try to stick up for themselves wasn’t met with the best reaction from the wider community
TLDR: Reddit: "we are taking away your liberty" Redditors: "give us liberty or give us death" Reddit: "death it is" Redditors: "yo yo we were just playing, no liberty and no death, yay!"
@@yolkthosenuts Reddit also isn't having a direct dialogue with Redditors, nor are they actually threatening Redditors with death, if any of that helps you understand the point of my comment that at least *1500 other people have gotten without issue.
100% agree. Most people don't end up going against their boss though (unless they get pushed too far). Most people are servile workers, who will often place their work over their own interests, even when they're legally able to refuse.
I have some insight into this "turn moderators against each other thing". What I think happened based on some threads I saw last night is that they implied that if anyone on the mod team of a sub was willing to play ball that they would promote that mod to top mod. The moderator list is like a ranking - if a higher mod disagrees with a lower mod then they get the right to overrule that decision. The person with all the power on a sub is the top mod - their mod actions cannot be overturned by the other mods. So basically this implication was that lower mods could "usurp" higher mods if they agreed to reopen. Sidenote: I was permabanned from a default sub yesterday for telling the top mod he didn't deserve to get paid and that he was power tripping. Instaban lmfao.
Basically neo-feudalism. Feudal lords weren't paid by the king (at least not formally) but ran their portion of the realm for the power it granted them (and sometimes a sense of duty and obligation). And if they got too uppity they could be replaced.
bruh i knew redditors were pathetic but having a fucking leaderboard for moderators? no wonder why the site has a god awful mod culture it literally bakes competitiveness into something that should be a colaborative effort.
I actually stopped using reddit at all. No, I'm not a moderator, or anyone special. I'm a simple user, less than a digit on reddit's spreadsheet. But what for me started as a protest against the removal of 3rd party apps lead to me finding out how addicted I was to scrolling that f*cking app. Just dropping it altogether made me discover how much free time I was wasting to the "online engagement monster".
It really is about the most on brand redditor move imaginable. You gotta remember that most of these mods are lonely and spend the majority of their time patrolling and managing these massive subreddits, and taking that away will of course make them fall back to being a regular user. It's pretty comical to see how fast they folded, it's like they all stood up for the sake of reddit and then when they got threatened of being "fired", everyone backs down. Literally the only thing they had to lose was their self pride and regardless they lost it anyways
I mean, they lose either way. Either they get replaced and reddit reopens or they don't and reddit reopens. They never had any real leverage to begin with. About all they could really hope to do was make waves to bring awareness to it, which they did, and reddit said don't care so thats all that can be done by those people.
@AWanderingSwordsman that's what I was thinking. The fact is, reddit doesn't need them because rhe CEO will just find more people who want to be mods. That's why he's such a dick about it.
@@AWanderingSwordsman Yeah pretty much. Unless they were able to pull off what happened on day 1 then there was a chance of it being successful. But you're completely right, its kind of hard to "overthrow" an entire platform, per say.
RE "turning mods against each other": This is because the message reddit sent out was basically "Hey, is there any lone dissenter who wants to be made into the lead mod in your subreddit?", because they basically said if there's even a single mod who wants to open the subs, they will make them into the lead mod who can override all the others, and that's what they've done. A number of the subs reopening have basically had someone dissent and turn on the other mods and got reorganized into the leader of the sub mods.
that's what you THINK happened. but in actuality no one knows, and it's safe to believe exactly what charlie said happened, that those spineless little turds folded as soon as they heard the news.
I think the next step in a situation like this would just be to delete the entire subreddit. If extremely popular subreddits just started disappearing, wouldn't that send a pretty heavy message to the CEO?
_Can_ they delete a subreddit? I'm not sure if moderators are actually able to do that. But even if they did delete the subreddits, they can just be recreated. They'd lose all the old content (unless Reddit keeps backups), but a replacement would still do the job.
I highly doubt that something the size of a popular subreddit can just be deleted without any option to roll back the changes within a set duration like a few days. If i delete my empty firebase project, it allows me to retrieve the content within 30 days lol.
@@Cenentury0941You are both correct. Subs can’t be deleted. And anything that CAN be deleted, is SOFT deleted for a measure of time, before being permadeleted.
@@THEFlea1991 exactly. They have VM containers for exact entire site backups, probably up to a few minutes. Subreddit disappeared? It can be restored instantly and “fixed” to just remove the problem mod. There is nothing they can do.
y'know. I honestly believed they would go through with it. I uninstalled Reddit and deleted my account. Turns out, not everyone is willing to keep promises. :(
Meh, I uninstalled it because it was bad and am heavily reducing how often I visit the site. There's some info there that isn't anywhere else with people keeping on top of the current status. Maybe eventually a decent competitor (free/cheap) will show up and I'll jump ship
It's hilarious watching Reddit moderators treat surrendering to Steve to save their subreddits like it's the French surrendering to Germany to save Paris
Except one would cost even more thousands of lives and cause unrepairable damage to one of the cultural hubs of an entire continent, and one is some obese pedo not wanting to lose a title on a single part of a single website
I know the whole France-Germany thing is kinda a meme but honestly at least with the French they were surrendering to literal nazi's, whereas with Reddit Mods it's just pathetic, since they didn't even have anyting at stake.
Remarkable how the mods were smart enough to realize the effect they had on the website as a whole, but as soon as their power was remotely threatened they completely caved in. Really on-brand for Reddit too, a group of people who are smart-ish except in situations that actually matter. People are saying "ohh giving the site a specific timeframe was a blunder", but part of me thinks that even with an indefinite protest, Steve making that one threat would've still been enough to get many subreddits back open.
As much as I want to give the subreddits that opened after a mere 2 days shit for being this dumb, yeah, ultimately those that are higher up on the totem pole than just subreddit mod will absolutely have the most power here. If it had anymore of an effect to the point where the CEO got more desperate he really would just force the subreddits open himself, with no regard to how. We've seen the internet's response when it comes to these things, start some topics, bitch and complain, but continue onward like nothing ever happened, so it'd absolutely work, people would still flock to subreddits with scab mods.
steve only made the threats to subs that didnt reopen after 48 hours so you're probably right, but i there are still a good number of subs that are privated / restricted still which is good. its about half of the big ones, and i dont think its over yet but the ball is defintely in the process of being fumbled.
This needed to be a full fledged boycott, and nobody had the guts to do it and put down Reddit in definitely. That they put a time limit on the strike, showcased their addiction is and how their "subreddit is too important to close. It's where I hang out." There is excuse after excuse to actually hurt reddit vs maintaining it. They gave in and suddenly everybody forgets about Apollo and has to ensure their bots stay live to make sure the subreddit goes on as planned. Unbelievable.
I dont use Reddit so I’m not invested in this situation but it just pisses me off that people go on strikes where they could literally lose their jobs but these people can’t go without their Reddit for a few days
It's sad. As an avid Reddit user, I'd happily, and have before, not touched Reddit for weeks at a time, especially if it stops a company from being proven right
@@clint-thenormalguy-rockwell365 Exactly, I literally just go there for literal shits and giggles, like I pretty much get my daily memes from there, and if it meant showing a company to stop their bs then hell yeah I’m willing to stop that indefinitely. It’s a shame these other people aren’t able to do the same and literally caved in at the mere mention that they’ll lose any power over others.
People seem to think Reddit is only for cat pics or girl boobies. There are hundred of subs for sharing information on really niche subjects and if they go on protesting forever, people won't be able to access those information.
@@roachdoggjr7020 "Scab" is a derogatory term for opportunistic people who break union picket lines and take over their jobs during protests. They scab over the wound left by protestors so the company doesn't bleed money. _Nobody_ respects scabs.
I said this before the boycott started and I’ll say it again: If you have a pre-determined date for when your boycott ends, especially if it’s literally just two days after it starts, then you’re not doing the boycott because you believe the issue needs to be resolved, you’re just doing it because it’s the popular thing to do and you’re jumping on a bandwagon.
@@MbitaChizi Your parents are well known in the community for their false promises. It's why they're not allowed at the PTA meetings. Don't get your hopes up, squirt.
I used to be a redditor, and i really liked the way the site was structured. Too bad reddit refuses to change, I've been looking for a "good" social media platform since.
These Reddit mods are the equivalent of Eric Cartman. Give them a smidge of power, they'll abuse it maliciously and you can't pry them off it with a crowbar
If the Redditors kept it up for a week or two, that would definitely upset the CEO because of the loss of ad revenue and maybe there would be slight changes. Oh well.
That is still not enough, should be at least 9 freakin months Eh, never mind, if they locked out all the subs for too long, the CEO would force open all of those and kick out all the mods just to replace them with extremely violent "power mods"
@SihamHamda47 Memes Then they should've started to sabotage the Subreddits, making sure that even if it opens, the experience terrible, maybe try banning all the people from even entering it in the first place for a long time, that would've definitely still make it a hassle for people to return, had they stick with their guns and started shooting when the CEO started to get rid of mods they would've absolutely damaged the site irreparably for a long time, plus with most of the moderators leaving, it would be very great to start posting... Some unsavory materials for their advertisers, it would've been a second wave of protests, 4Chan and so many others would definitely take advantage of the chaos to make the advertisers lives hell and would give that autist loking Steve a punch to the face.
@@Broomer52 Not only dumb, the majority of people don't even use 3rd party apps, so it was a dumb protest by some terminally online minority. Truly a reddit moment.
A mod banned me from a subreddit for an "offensive" comment on the Hogwarts game. They kept banning me from any other subreddits I commented on for no reason because most of them mod multiple subreddits. That's when I realised Im becoming a proper redditor and stepped in some dogshit I don't need in my life. Deleted the app immediately and I don't regret it. The mods on reddit are never going to give up their position in protest.
I was going to tell you to seek help in the first half. But I'm genuinely surprised. A commenter actually sought help 🙏🙏 may the Lord, the universe, Allah or Xenu bless you on your journey good sir
What did you say that made them ban you in the first place?
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Or you could realize that the entire platform is not defined by the actions of one mod? That's like deleting Facebook, because you got kicked out from a group.
@@derf93 I'm sure he's worried he's lost the respect of DERF. He'll probably be crying, as he bones your wife, mother, whatever you have that he can bone.
@@numnaut1314 What were the mods really gonna do? Get replaced en mass with a decent chance the fresh mods fuck shit up? Its a lose lose situation. Either they came back or Reddit Corpo will scrape up the nearest methhead, gas em up, and let him go apeshit. Shits fucked.
Yup he’s not wrong. I remember in one of the Reddit subs a mod was like “we can’t close this sub because a lot of people depend on the information from it”. I was like “People can live without Reddit trust me 😂”. After some backlash they closed only for 1 day and no one was impressed with them 😂. These mods wholly believe that their subreddits are like the most essential thing in the internet and that no one can live without them. I can’t blame anyone for hating them because they take themselves and their subreddits way too seriously.
Lol absolutely! Although, in their defense, the only way I'm even able to get decent answers to questions on half the search engines out there is to add "reddit" at the end of my query, so at least reddit is helpful to have around.
@@zeppelins4ever I'd like to ask what queries you are asking. Or perhaps request that you reflect on the solutions you got and re-examine whether they were actually good. Because every time I get answers from Reddit, it's shit. Stack Exchange does the answers thing, but better. Still has the piss-ant mods and communities though.
@@CrizzyEyes same as what Mariebun said, usually when it comes to niche, obscure stuff, reddit is most helpful (though I do try to find other sources to verify, I'm not just going to outright trust an answer without some sort of proof, but again, reddit tends to lead me in the right direction at the bare minimum, even if I have to look at some of the less upvoted comments). Stack Exchange is very helpful though, and much more thorough, I will agree! But they don't always have the exact specific info I'm looking for.
Dude redditors might take the cake for caring about subs, i didn’t mind if it was indefinite cuz either they actually solve the problem or i lose my addiction but SOOO many people we’re seething at the mods when they reopened, for closing in the first place Entitlement seems to run deep amongst mods and users alike
Oh no, someone will take away their Boy Scout badge! Watch them give up on their morals and beliefs. Let’s hope none of them become politicians. We have enough of those types as it is.
This is what i was thinking. It took only the slightest notion of an inconvenience to them for them to give up on their personal beliefs and what they were protesting about. It really goes to show you how people value power and clout over community and the general good. Pretty sad for them.
@@SacredLiquidand actual skills. If I'm stranded outside I'd rather have a former boy scout with me then some mod that thinks he's an intellectual because he runs some shty subreddit.
As someone who really enjoys using reddit but no longer has a chronic dependency on the internet, I have to admit that I honestly knew nothing about the strike because apparently I did my part by... not checking for 2 days??
My favorite was r/nba mods. They made it sound like the protest worked & they were actively communicating with the higher ups at reddit & felt it was appropriate to reopen r/nba bc they were satisfied with what the admins were going to do to resolve the protest.
Do note that for a lot of these subreddits, they're being opened back up so that they can continue protesting. r/Pics and r/Gifs, for example, both now only allow John Oliver. This is definitely a better outcome then those mods being replaced with anti-protest mods who wouldn't allow protest material at all.
Oh I thought those new rules were because the OG mods got replaced by new ones or smth, I didn't know they were still protesting with John Oliver content.
I’m in a subreddit r/ILPT and now every time you post you have to include any image that has a sock in it😂 these things are getting out of control lmao
So about that turning mods against each other thing. There was a line on the email that said something along the lines that if ONE moderator wanted the sub opened again, reddit would essentially make them King of the Mods and can the rest of them. They really were gunning for these mods to stab each other in the back.
That is the most childish, Scooby Doo villain BS i've heard...and yet it worked to threaten them hard enough? To hell with the CEO and Reddit, but to hell with these mods, too.
I didn't expect it to work because it was just a really shitty plan. Their entire thought process was "to protest Reddit we'll cut it's traffic in half to show Spez we're not fucking around" but that was never going to change the fact that Reddit is so big and is used by so many people for solutions to problems that aren't answered by Google or Quora.
The saddest part is knowing pretty much none of these people are going to learn that, if you want to be a hero, you have to be ready to endure when (not if) your enemy does something that will seriously hurt you. Except in this case it was less "seriously hurt" and more "cause an inconvenience for," which makes things even sadder.
this is the same reason people cheered for lockdowns and wearing masks. they got to feel like these ultra heros while doing nothing and risking nothing.
“Please! It’s the only thing I’ve ever had responsibility over. I have the power to ban people and I feel important. I was bullied my whole life and this is my calling, don’t remove me!”
@@TheProphegy it’s more like, “please do not destroy the community of half 1 million members that I’ve spent building over the past eight years”. It wasn’t just threats they actually replaced mods.
@@RiverBaine An online community, it literally means nothing. They can go literally anywhere else and restart the community if they don;t like it. Or they can, y'know, go outside and meet real people instead of living in their echo chambers of reddit. Plus let's not forget that they spent the last eight of their years WILLINGLY building it. Reddit wasn't contracting them out to put together the subreddit, it was purely a hobby that they took far too seriously.
For protesting corporate greed, they sure did give the most corporate PR type apology statement and even used bangers like "positivity" and "safer for everyone"
I'm absolutely baffled that they cannot stay away from the site, it's like reddit is their whole universe. They *had* the self-respect to "protest" but now completely lost their collective dignity for folding so hard.
@munkydreads The difference with reddit is it seems like redditors have real cognitive dissonance where they think they've achieved peak human performance by being in a reddit thread daily. A lot of people on Twitter are at least somewhat aware it's garbage, but still use it
I use reddit once in a blue moon to see the dumbest people on the planet, like I'm visiting a zoo. You're right on the money with saying Reddit is their whole universe. The amount of times I've had idiots reply to me on Reddit with something along the lines of "No one is going to give your comment likes here!" as if that matters at all. They self censure there to pretend they're popular and it's very sad.
I feel so vindicated. The idea that the handful of reddit mods were going to give up their own illusory power, which is probably all they have going on in their lives, was ridiculously naive to begin with. Add to that the fact that redditors are completely addicted to the site, and you have a recipe for the most useless protest since Occupy Wall Street.
The thing about Reddit threatening to replace mods is that it's a total lose-lose situation. You could open back up on your own, quitting the indefinite commitment or you could be replaced with people who will probably agree with the terrible API changes, and the sub will still open back up. The first option is better to still let the subs think of different ways to protest. For example, r/pics now only allows posts of John Oliver in sexy outfits
Its sad how they easily could've redeemed their names for being Reddit mods and actually fight a just cause. Too bad they immediately pulled out once they heard they're power was going away.
I only use reddit for those niche questions for a very specific issue that there happens to be just 1 reddit post about it and it saves me months of my life.
As soon as any company tries to become publicly traded it immediately goes to shit. That's what happens when you're bound by law to make as much money as possible as fast as possible.
From what I've heard, the focus has switched from privating subreddits to posting hours of white noise videos to overload servers and changing the purpose of the subreddits to just posting memey stuff, which then ends up on the front page. Whatever will make potential investors look at reddit and see the situation for the dumpster fire it is
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца Welcome to the 2020s, where rock bottom gets lower by the month and year, until we fall straight through the other side of Earth, then into geosynchronous orbit.
It’s like when a child stops breathing as a tantrum, a parent knows the kid will either stop or pass out lmao. Redditors can’t stop their natural body functions
the fact that Corporations are able to this is sad and disappointing, but also the Redditors should have held on stronger even though what they did was great
@@FullAutoWitch Tell me how that would be possible. Even if 100% of them held the subreddits private, they still could EASILY be replaced with new ones.
@@brunomenezes9011Exactly. A part of the problem in general, not just Reddit, is that a lot of the companies pulling this kind of bs and making massive (and usually awful decisions (see Netflix and RUclips)) even when their entire userbase is against it and protesting is because they're so unique they're almost a monopoly, and they know that the users really can't go anywhere else and will eventually just give in. It's an annoying and frustrating problem that leave consumers feeling angry and powerless.
Reddit mods... They gave up on themselves in their personal lives. It's sad to see. But if they can do that to themselves, they can do that to anything. I hope things get better for them and their mental health. *Life is difficult. I don't hold it against them for becoming like this.* But it's just not good to be so weak like this. *Can't even stay away from Reddit for more than 2 days. Can't even tolerate the idea of not being a Reddit mod* - even when the majority of the Reddit community was supporting them. *There's a problem there.* Hopefully they work on it.
I knew as soon as this started it would fail. All Reddit had to do was threaten to remove the mods which is a death sentence for anyone who is chronically online.
That's just sad. When people begin a protest for a very veeery good reason and then some of em get really scared for their unpaid and "unimportant" role as a hall monitor and just abandon the whole protest by giving in. It's a slap in the face for the whole reddit community, and not a good slap like God Slap.
Could've worked out, but as many people have said, "Reddit is just Twitter with an inferiority complex". They were way too addicted to fake internet points to actually do something.
Turning mods against each other is to find the weakness in the mods that don't want to lose the power to force them to reopen while the other still strong in their conviction.
A lot of mods think they have power or that people care. There is millions of subreddits and these mods are nobodies and act like they’re important. 😆 They’ve never had power before and abuse it.
You guys have to understand. These mods are doing this for free because they like what that sub represent. For them to have such a vice grip like that can only happen if they care so much. Losing that control on a place that they call home is really bad. What's worse is that if their replacement was so sloppy and not actually moderating, and then the subreddit goes down to the forever-private for no moderator.
Even though i knew where this whole fiasco was going, it was still the funniest shit seeing it happen. Reddit mods immeadiatly bending over the moment they are threatened with losing their mod status is comedy gold.
Tf were they going to do? The 2 options were opening the subreddit yourself or be replaced and have them open anyways. The smart thing to do wasnt to die on that hill. It's stupid to call them cowards for that
@@pirilon78 nope. Way smarter because reddit would collapse without the og mods. They wouldn't even have enough people to replace them. A total bluff that only idiots would fall for.
@@measlesplease1266 Yeah I had a feeling about that. I also had my own takes on it on what would be the possibilities, first possibility is "og mods" assigning one of their own in that community which is like 10% possibility, the second possibility is likely because I guarantee that they probably won't even assign a real person and would just abandon that subreddit to die. But honestly in your opinion how much of a bluff is it really?
You really got to hand it to Reddit's CEO. He stuck to one idea, found every excuse for refusing to budge, and blamed Redditors for all of Reddit's problems. He really is a Redditor, through and through.
A good CEO should be the embodiment of their product
@@danielwilliams7562 He became Reddit
@@RemedieX a true ascendancy far beyond what the mortal mind should be capable of
He defended his modship on SinkPissers
@@RemedieX and he reddited everyone
Asking a Redditor to stay away from Reddit for more than 48 hours is like asking a Twitter user to stay away from spewing an awful take for more than 48 hours.
Hold up, this is the hottest take I seen in the comments section so far
Penguinz0 is my inspiration my parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging
Completely agree. I’m glad that the only social medias I kept is RUclips (I love watching documentary videos and videos like Moist’s) and insta were I may not post, but it keeps me contacted with friends I’ve made in South Africa and Canada… people lose their damn minds on social medias and become so obsessed that it becomes their life and it’s so so sad and embarrassing
@@MbitaChizi No 😢
Asking a redditor to stay away from reddit for 48 hours is like asking a stoner to go five seconds without defending weed.
This is truly incredible. He somehow managed to employ union busting tactics-against a group of people that weren’t even being paid.
I never thought about it like that
lmao its so embarassing, ill never understand it
@@_fruitl00pz I think I understand it. Subreddits are maintained by the mods, and the communities that have developed are put at risk of entirely dissolving if potentially all of the people who have an intimate understanding of their subreddit communities are stripped of their ability to moderate.
@@howlsaur so what? It's a subreddit, not the space shuttle. They can simply build a community literally anywhere else.
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The only thing that frustrates me is the fact the CEO laughed in their face, literally saying "Nah trust me, they're addicted, they'll be back in a few days" and these dudes proved him right. He must have the biggest smug right now, ugh...
Honestly redditors deserve it
Of course they did, the kind of people who would be reddit mods are resentful no life nerds with no actual power, control or influence IRL.
Being able to ban people arbitrarily from using a website is like crack to these people.
Reddit mods are just a bunch of weak men. Unfortunately the majority of men these days are weak AF and simps.
Why shouldn't he? He read these dudes like a book. Redditors threatening to quit Reddit? Emptiest threat imaginable.
@@1845net I am missing best of redditor updates
The reddit blackout was like when a child threatens to leave home and the parents just let it happen knowing full well they’ll be back in like an hour.
until they don't
Even the protest itself felt like a child's tantrum. They could have stopped users from posting new submissions instead of privating the entire sub. The point was to get people off the main feed of a sub, which is the only place that ads play. If you stop new submissions, that would remove all purpose of the feed, stopping people from going there, thus no ads would load. . . BUT STILL ALLOW OLD POSTS TO BE VIEWABLE!!!!
Like, the "way" most of them were protesting (because some of them actually DID do it the way I said they should have above) was the most backwards "lets hurt users and stop them from actually using the site" method possible of protesting. When you start closing down public roads, that's no longer a protest, that's an outright riot.
@@Hadeks_Marow There would still be old content on your feed though, right? By fully privating the subreddits they fully reduced a huge chunk of traffic on the site which is just another layer to the protest
@@Hadeks_Marow >When you start closing down public roads, that's no longer a protest, that's an outright riot.
That is how all protests have to be. The idea of a peaceful protest is nonsense because a peaceful protest is a protest with no power.
"Tommy if you don't come you won't be able to get on your Xbox"
Reddit mods were just given the greatest opportunity they'll ever have to prove the "Reddit mod" stereotype wrong, and instead they reinforced it. Truly poetic.
Not really, Charlie just misrepresenting the facts.
@@flashmozzg what are you talking about, a lot of those subs are back up, and the posts on top and hot are still getting 50k + votes. protest did nothing.
it failed.
the mods of subs are actually following admins orders to open subs back up. its fucking funny.
@@flashmozzg nahhhh
@@flashmozzg LOL where??? what facts???
@@BottlebitzReddit admins removed head mods the refused to open subs, assigned whatever other people that complained about subs being shut down, and opened subs by force
I think this is a good example of the danger with monopolies. If Reddit had a good competitor, all users would have left for it and Reddit would have inevitably backed down. This was a prime opportunity for a platform to position itself as competition to Reddit.
But there are competitors, like saidit. It is just that the prime reason to use reddit is content. And reddit has hit critical mass such that no other site will have enough content to compete with them, and thus moving to those other sites will not be worth it.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Well during the blackout, reddit basically had 0 content, so however little content on a rival platform would still be better. Not to mention 48hrs is enough time to generate a decent amount of content, at least/especially for the bigger subreddits, who would also be the ones to cause panic for the company the most.
@@Xicor.We've seen this attempted and failed before, happened when that woman CEO got into power a few years back. The problem is that the alternatives created never lasted, they peaked as quickly as they dropped. People forgot about it
There are a ton of competitors. Forgive me for saying this, but ignorant people like you just don't bother looking for them. The level of naivete is staggering. What you _really want_ is a place that your friends tell you is cool, meaning a place that is already popular. That doesn't "just happen" overnight, you have to put in a small amount of effort and look for a place to make it popular over a long period of time. This kind of mentality is what led the "protesters" to go back to Reddit in the first place; you're no better than they are.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Reddit literally has no content by definition, unless you consider the text posts themselves to be valuable. There is no system in place for Reddit to serve files. It's literally just a text forum with links to other websites in every OP.
The whole point of a protest or strike is to boycott a service/company/person/entity indefinitely with the threat of permanence until said entity is willing to change/compromise/meet demands. A scheduled protest is the safest and non-impactful thing possible. These people can't stay off a single website for more than 2 days, good lord.
Like/reply to this comment if you are a zoophile! :D
You say as you browse youtube.
@@shawno8253 You say as if that is relevant here.
@@colon44
me when i want to derail conversations
@@colon44seizure detected
Redditors not being able to stay away for 24 hours is a perfect example of why Facebook will never fail no matter how much people claim they hate it and will leave it
I must be one of the lucky few that havent gone back to facebook in 8 years *shrugs*
True but it's nice seeing Facebook lose millions of dollars. And Metaverse was a epic fail.
Everyone just needs to get into a court case lol, that's what did it for me 😅 my attorney recommended deleting/closing social media accounts while I was fighting workers comp, took 1.5 years, but now that I can use it again I just have zero interest in it... now when I get on I'm like ew why?? 😂😂
not to mention that has alot of boomers with the cliche black and white picture with either two things, "cringe inspriational messages" or "i'm glad i'm not a liberal durrrr or a conservative durrrr, political scapegoat kinda post"
Or Twitter lol
This basically was a chance to prove the Reddit stereotype wrong, but power is a hell of a drug.
"Power", by the way, in the biggest quotation marks possible. Imagine thinking that being a mod on some goofy internet forum gives you "power".
they are a stereotype just a bunch of drones and brainless lobotomites
@@VG-fk6nkwell it probably does give them that power trip. So yeah it's easy to imagine.
@@VG-fk6nkThat's the point, they're given the most pathetic form of power and go on a power trip
To be fair, every stereotype has been challenged over and over again and no one cares, just sticks with the stereotype. Jesus Christ himself could descend from the clouds and personally denounce a stereotype and people would still believe the stereotype
I used Reddit daily and after the 48 hour blackout I realized I don’t need it. Since the reddit ceo hasn’t reversed their new policy I’ve decided to quit using their site. The only productive use was keeping up with national and local news, but I’ve just switched to Apple News. I also switched to twitter for sports stuff and left everything else cause it was a waste of time. After leaving Reddit I can finally touch grass, thanks mr shite CEO
>Twitter
>Touching grass
Trading one hellsite for another
The best part about the blackout to me was that it got me off the site too, and I've found replacements for everything I got from there. But with the added bonus that I don't waste hours upon hours just mindlessly scrolling through there anymore. I at least do something, be it playing a game, reading a book or web novel, or just getting off my ass. Seriously, this limited strike might have reinforced the worst qualities of the people on the website, but it also freed the better people who actually want to live their lives like you or me!
@@l1ghtd3m0n3 being a fan of Arizona sports teams is perpetual hell and that’s the only thing I follow on twitter, so I’m not really losing anything except when posts give me hope they’ll win anything. So fuck, you’re right.
But the news on reddit are super one sided.
@@niksonrex88 no it wasn't
Peak reddit moment.
They have the power to make a change, but give up not even two days in.
They reinforced the negative stereotypes
The endorphines they feel when banning a comment they dislike is what prevents them from hanging themselves each day
Did they really have the power to make a change though? Reddit would have just gotten new mods & reopened the subs lol. Obviously being a reddit mod is something plenty of no-lifes are foaming at the mouth for (especially the high-profile subs), so it would have literally been an easy spring cleaning replacement.
Either way, Reddit was going to be back online by the end of the month, business as usual.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no nah mate this is the downfall of reddit. The site is definitely going to lose some users after this. The site API will be worse, place will be filled with bots and toxicity. Then after some more time the will find a way to cut down on something else to make more money making more people leave.
This signed the end of reddit.
If all or even most mods left with tools, it would be hard for redit to find mods because those mods would suck and make the platform even worse pushing even more people away. It will never be business as usual, it will be business in a dying site.
Surprised I had to scroll down this far to see "Reddit moment".
They never had the power
Y'know, for a platform that's supposed to be full of "intellectuals" they really didn't think this protest through very well
From the short time that I had a Reddit account, I can confirm that at least 90% of the other users are not intellectuals.
Where did the idea that it was full of intellectuals come from? Or that those intellectuals were the mods?
Reddit has as many intellectuals as I have super powers
@@SRFAAI don't think anyone ever assumed reddit mods have any sign of intelligence, quite the opposite actually. But a lot of people on reddit are experts in a particular hobby and there are threads like r/askscience where there is always some kind of expert you can find on a topic.
@@g.3521 Yeah, but I mean it's not like people who are actually experts were represented by this protest or something. The protest was mainly led by a specific group of moderators, and not by the majority of Reddit users or the smartest ones.
As someone who has been banned by Reddit mods multiple times, I can confirm it is their lifeblood and they will protect that ability at all costs
redditors would rather ban people in their sub reddit than being with her wife while she is giving birth to their baby
Same, the mf reddit mods are some of the most pathetic people on earth. This is why I used boost to block their subreddits but with Third party apps going away. I'm afraid for what's to come.
Same, it’s worse than twitter😂
you bad naughty boy
Another day, another overblown 'internet boycott' that fails pathetically because the people most involved in it lack any kind of willpower or desire to do anything but feed their addictions. Colour me shook.
I did see some mod actually gave up their position right after the threat. It’s rare, but I respect their guts to go through with it.
strongest Reddit moderator
This is actually hilarious. Not only did it not work even a little but they actually just proved to the CEO he could do whatever the fuck he wanted by proving they are so easily controlled.
The only thing these absolute morons did in the "protest" is giving me something to laugh at them for the day.
This is a bad day for the internet.
@@RobotronSage a bad day for redditards, a good day for people
@@RobotronSage nah man this may be a hot topic but if they couldn’t hold for more than 24hr than they deserve this ngl
@@RobotronSage I've thought about this a lot. I hate corporations but my hate for reddit mods is actually higher. I consider this a win. The reddit CEO can force the reddit mods to sing and dance by threatening their mod powers 😂🤣🤣😂
It's funny because they are working for free and yet they wanted to strike, but went back to working for free for Reddit whilst it spat in their faces. Imagine being a mod
Fkn seriously. They should've called the corporation's bluff, then if reddit stole their 10k+ subs the mods would have popular opinion on their side again, continuing the protest in other ways 🤦🏼♀️ can't believe they just folded lol, so lame & a bad example for others protesting in the future.
There's a reason why mod and cuckold are interchangeable terms in chanspeak for at least a decade now.
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh "chanspeak" puts u in the exact same category
@@chris___01_ Chanspeak is fine soyboy
@@iamerror1699 cry cuck 4chaners and redditers are on the same social reject status instead of being mad try talking to women 😹😹😹
This could've worked, but redditors are not willing to feel powerless for more than 48 hours.
Damn you watched a 12 minute video in 1 minute? That’s a record
FOR WHAT IS A MAN
@@justinportillo3996fr, I’m always shocked how people do that. Some real talent they got…
Michael Gove is beautiful
Lmao, it never would have worked. I hope the mods that organized it get permabanned.
I left Reddit over this and honestly my mental health has significantly improved over the last couple weeks lol
Yeah 'High five" me too!
me with discord
I left reddit after a post I made dicking on Spez made it to r/all and i got perm banned for it
Me but with twitter
me but with discord, twitter, instagram, and tik tok
Expecting a backbone from reddit mods is like expecting truthfullness from politicians. They simply dont go along.
I understand what you're saying, but imagine if you made a subreddit and then you were told it was going to be taken off you because you showed dissent against the company.
@@xei2694 Then I would just nuke the whole board. Someone else can create it. Nobody had any guts to do that, though.
@@orga7777 People don’t want to do that though because there is genuinely useful things archived under a lot of subs, if not, historically significant posts. Nuking a sub would just be bad for everyone involved.
@@itsprecept Cowing to a corporation is just bad for everyone involved. But, one doesn't expect a Corpo like you to understand that.
@@apenguininthemist855 LMFAO CALLING ME A CORPO YOU DONT EVEN KNOW ME.
By historical events I mean peoples reactions to big world events as they unfolded in real time. A decades worth of tech help. Theory crafting and discussions for different series as they run/ran, and more. Would hurt Reddit, but would also hurt online preservation even more.
Literally everyone who is continuing to use Reddit throughout all of this is displaying indifference to this entire scenario and has a certain level of enabling this. If you want a machine to stop working, then all parts have to stop doing their functions to make it stop working. This includes people still using the website and official app.
We’ve seen this time and time again because of the communities need to consoom. This isn’t isolated to just Reddit communities being unable to stay off the app either lmfao. People still line up to empty their pockets to Activision Blizzard because knowing all the stuff that has came out because communities feel a need to consoom instead of just simply stopping and moving elsewhere.
Now I’m not gonna blindly name call like you did, but can you at least see where I’m coming from?
The sad part of this is that it exposes just how addicted people are to platforms such as reddit, Twitter, etc.
They can't go more than a few hours without their fix before they start tweaking.
tbh I haven't actually liked reddit in months, and this dumb decision finally woke me up and I got off the platform. Honestly feeling a lot better since I got rid of it
to be fair, there are only like 6 websites around anymore and reddit has the most distilled communities of any other platform. you can scroll through hashtags or facebook groups for a show of game you like, but guaranteed reddit is the place where the most actual discussion is had or useful info is given. it sucks, i miss forums, but i get why the users came back
Add RUclips to the list
Social media addiction is something that needs to be studied more and im saying this as an addict
have you ever found yourself appending reddit to the end of your search query because normal Google results are useless?
They spent their lives moderating only to be betrayed by the very thing they swore to protect.
This is almost shakespearean.
You are either the duper or dupee.
It’s like poetry. It rhymes!
beserk reference
Mods be like "You were supposed to destroy the people I dislike, not join them!"
They got way too high with the power they have
I’m so glad Reddit is imploding. Maybe without it they’ll have to learn how to ACTUALLY have a conversation with someone you disagree with.
Redditors really stuck it to the man, almost half a week away from Reddit is really quite the achievement
They lasted almost as long as the crack prostitute strike.
Reddit lasted way longer in the GME event lol
The whole protest was dumb to begin with. Reddit makes it hard to go on porn sub reddits and the whole site goes ballistic
As someone who casually uses Reddit just for some smaller communities, I did follow what was going on and supported the cause. But seeing the posts talking about why they weren’t going to go offline indefinitely, as well as all the comments agreeing saying they couldn’t handle not using Reddit was honestly so baffling and sad to me. It wasn’t just the mods, clearly even the users couldn’t handle being off Reddit for even 48 hours, they were so mad about the new policies but they barely did anything because they’re so reliant on it. Truly a Reddit moment
A reminder that the users are also awful, and responsible for many of reddits problems, not just the mods.
This strike happened around the only time I actually needed Reddit, since that's where you go for support nowadays.
because the truth is most redditors didn’t give a fuck about the protests and were just annoyed at all the subs being down.
I'm not an avid reddit user, but I can't count the amount of times that I had an issue or needed some information and could only find it on reddit. While I am annoyed that I can't find what I'm looking for sometimes, I still support the protest. even still, when I go to find an answer to something on reddit all the posts that have the answer I need are blocked. It is a very effective protest in my perspective and I hope that it works.
Yeah; it's disheartening. Looking at the reopening threads or in subs that didn't go offline (e.g. the team-specific subs for r/nba), there are basically two types of comments: those that say that the mods chickened out of an indefinite private mode because they were missing their power trip and those that are furious that they couldn't use reddit for 2 whole days and the entire private mode was a mod power trip to begin with. Regardless of which side of the argument people were on, they all but ignored the original problem itself and focused on blaming the mods for everything. Reddit has spoken and the message is clear: "we don't care about corporate greed and will gladly take it as long as we can farm karma and meme on the mods".
The CEO killing the third party API for pure pettiness is such a reddit thing to do.
the mods are getting a taste of their own power tripping medicine, Id say deserved, espeically when they showed they will come right back regardless of being angry.
They are noise.
I don't like the change, but I think reddit has an unsurprising reason for the change.
Ultimately, redditors are the product and the advertisers are their real customers.
It's not for no reason. Reddit only has two sources of income, advertisements and awards. People using the 3rd party apps don't see the adds, cutting out half their revenue (or probably more than half).
@@jonelder1044 Then why would they want me with 3 adblockers in their site?
@@keonklalmao its normal users facing most of the blunt, not the mods
I have so much respect for the subreddits that stayed blacked out. The ones that didn’t suck
True, the fact that i don't have to deal with jannies or other ritard normies in that two days really make reddit much more enjoyable.
@@cccbbbaaa110man...you're the reason ppl make fun of redditors 💀
now there are ones that came back as nsfw so they can't get ads, reddit users is still in full fight mode, but the only way to know is to be on the actual app. r/interestingasfuck is now nsfw.
@@cccbbbaaa110 cringe
I haven’t touched Reddit since, it sucks because there is some useful info, but I just don’t like the ceo
for anyone who doesnt know about what "turning mods against each other" meant, they made it clear that if one mod was willing to re-open the subreddits, they would become the head mod and the admins would remove all the other mods that want it closed.
edit: no im not a mod. it was just talked about by the mods on several different subreddits
Even then , forcing reddit to do that for every protesting subreddit would have been such a bad look for Reddit , not to mention an absolute dump truck full of effort to replace all of them.
(Which I think is good , make Reddit work for it and take the L they created instead of giving up )
This guy must be a reddit mod
Wow that is a beyond underhanded tactic for a company to employ.
@@st2udent_650 most people on Reddit didn't even care most of my subreddits were pissed they thought they could even go against the company they can very easily just replace them modding isn't hard
@@kailara8002 Yeah, of the subs that I actually use only 1 was private and 1 was just locked for most recent posts. All the others stayed open.
That’s crazy. Steve literally told them, “there is literally nothing impactful you can do, because you all NEED this site.”
What’s crazier is that Steve was 100% right.
Yeah I disagree with his decision but still that was some boss ass shit from Steve I’ve gotta give respect for that
@@mischasella8917 meh, still a lil bitch about people making better version of his app
Its the comfort zone of geek&nerds and the reason they will be stuck in their cave
I’m always reminded of the anti work mod when I think of Reddit mods. If they wanted to really protest they should have all immediately quit their mod positions and let the subreddits collapse. Prove their perceived value and the value of the API
Penguinz0 is my inspiration my parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging
Being a Reddit mod is like being a line leader in elementary school
Lmao!
But line leaders go outside
Why are you giving Reddit mod a compliment?
As someone who teaches elementary school, you’re 100% accurate
Yeah the short bus type of school
they were so kind to give that 48 hour deadline
And Michael Gove is beautiful
just like George Washington crossing the Delaware for 48 hours
Seriously, reddiors keep shooting themselves in the leg
Indeed to let them know that they were going to come back so they didn't have to do anything.
But will they come back when their third party app is gone?
I had purged myself of social media except for Reddit. This blackout was the perfect opportunity for me. I didn't go on for 3 days. I went on yesterday, and after maybe 2 minutes I realized that I hated it and closed it for good lol. I guess I don't care what anyone else does but for I'm glad to be purged of the last social media site that I was using.
You used a social media site to post this comment.
@@510tuber🤓
@@510tuberyoutube isn't social media, not really
@@nik-challengeman383it kinda is though depending on what your definition of social media is, I mean like other social medias here I can also communicate with you like this by replying to your comment
If we consider every site that allows you to read and respond to someone's comments to be social media, then sure. That would mean New York Times, Investing, Ebay, Indeed, JCPenny, Amazon, porn sites, Walmart, etc etc are actually social media sites. My definition isn't that loose, but I can't argue with someone if that's the definition they want to use.
truly a reddit mod moment, as soon as their fake position of authority is threatened, they buckle
That's like the easiest thing to say in the entire world when you aren't involved or responsible. Like there is nothing more paper thin that can be contributed to this entire comment section.
@@Linixion it's the easiest thing to say because it's the truth. A majority of these people aren't even paid for what they do, they simply cling onto online power. What's the point of protesting if you cripple at the SLIGHTEST hint of losing a title on a website?
Although I wasn't claiming to make any sort of ground breaking comment, so I don't know where you got that idea from lol. Ironically enough you've made your own comment just as paper thin and misguided as you claim mine is
To be fair though, say a subreddit mod does forfeit their position for the strike, then what? They’d be replaced by someone who doesn’t have the subs success in mind at all.
Truthfully I think the way to successfully strike Reddit is for people to just uninstall the official app en masse, and just stop using Reddit. Users and mods alike. Just boycott by simply not using the website
@@roguewave5187 I'm not making a groundbreaking statement either, I'm very simply - without expectations for anyone to give a shit - expressing my frustrations at people sitting around making lame jokes. Almost any situation where people take sides and start blasting people in general terms they have contributed to the failure by being unsupportive, overly critical, and less concerned with accountability than their own fart of a joke at things they have nothing to do with and no stake in. Also I try to learn from people even when they say things that make me uncomfortable or that I naturally feel dismissive about. Kinda gives life more meaning, you know?
@@Linixion if you're searching for meaningful conversations and debates, I'd recommend not scrolling through a RUclips comment section
What would be infinitely funnier is if the new moderators that the CEO hires just decide to just re-private the subreddits again.
god i wish. just an endless chain of reopening and reclosing lmao
that would be funny
That's what I was thinking since yesterday, hoping that the new moderators unite and private the subs lol
Hire? They are volunteers.
Penguinz0 is my inspiration my parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging
This is such a reddit mod move from the reddit mods to be able to bring so many people to your cause and on your side only to backtrack at the thought of losing your unpaid power
Y ou r obedience muzzle removes any worth y ou r words would have had.
@@guillermoelnino what?
I thought my complete and utter disrespect for reddit mods couldn't be greater, but apparently, it can. Some fights are just evil versus evil, we don't really have a horse in the race.
@@guillermoelninoy ou r? Twice? Why?
@@guillermoelninois this some kind of riddle?
Redditors being angry enough to strike, but not smart enough to know how a strike works will be the most reddit shit ever nothing will top this
My favorite is the antiwork subreddit that is so anti work that they decided to bow down to their corporate overlords and continue their free work. I guess the tiny amount of power was enough to give up their principles. Weird that money is not enough but being a reddit mod is.
The dichotomy is the empowerment of maintaining control and thus revolutionary direction, or losing it through rash dedication to a single avenue of protest. If you believe yourself to be a mouthpiece for the "essence" or ambitions of a community or movement, why abandon your position to what is essentially a puppet team of moderators who contradict the ideologies of the community itself when you could reevaluate a different way to protest (e.g., the malicious compliance of r/pics, r/gifs, r/iphone, r/aww, r/steam, r/wellthatsucks, etc. in an attempt to further disrupt the IPO of Reddit)?
They are anti THEIR work. But they are not anti work of others
@@kyuokuoThey are against themselves getting paid to work
they hate themselves
They hate
The "turning mods against each other" is that if any of the mods of a sub agreed to reopen, the reddit admins would remove all the others and put that one mod in charge. Reddit dangled a carrot of the ultimate power trip and it worked.
I don't get why everyone seems to have this take. Reddit didn't just threaten to take away the power, they have already done it to a select subreddits, effectively saying that "If you don't stop protesting, then we will take away your power to protest" and the way everyone is saying "lol mods just gave up" is infuriating. Largest example I caught before I went to bed yesterday of a mod change was r/piracy which had a mod removed, forced opening and got a reddit added mod.
@@MigranBTWdon't you understand what you just said?
It is exactly what Charlie and everyone has said, Reddit do have the power to change the mod and reopen the sub, the take is that they *gave up*, the mod team are so afraid that they're going to be removed that they open the mod themselves, no one ever said this is an empty threat, everyone know that the mod can be removed and reopen, the thing we make fun is the fact that they're so afraid to lose the mod position
@@izlieraiden8697 So you´re saying they should have ended the protest and give up their subs on top instead of just ending the protest, for no reason?
@@ScileScexactly
They can go to any other forum platform, collaborate, market it to grow users and make bad press for Reddit
Instead they decided to undermine values they claimed to have and continue working... FOR FREE
@@ScileScand it's Reddit's subs, not theirs
i think the problem is these mods actually now have sunk so much of their time into being a reddit mod that the threat of having that simply ripped away from them is TERRIFYING, this truthfully is their life’s work.. and of course the ceo knows this, hence why he made that threat and didn’t even attempt to negotiate💀
in a way, it's like a "i told you so" and that the mods are not really the "crusaders against corporations", they even timed their strike,
Completely agree and see Charlie is being real close-minded by just minimizing a Reddit mod to a loser. Sure, there are mods like that but if all mods were like them, don't you think Reddit would have failed a lot sooner and this whole issue wouldn't have this much pushback if they were as bad as you assume they are? Also, it's kinda uncool to kick someone who's down. I've been on Reddit for over 10 years and have met mods that run cool, niche subs that have conversations and built relationships, bonding over their sub. Those are and the reason why I use Reddit. The default subs are shit but the ones with the loudest voice and make the most noise while us "normals" get boxed in with them. Honestly hate that everyone puts all Redditors down, in general.
@@LycanKai14 you a mod?
We can see a similar thing happen with discord or twitch mods. It's one of the super unhealthy obsessions over "responsibilities" as if we would need a title to make other people on the internet respect us. Literal powertrip that's built on nothing but sand and dreams
@@ToxicJelly9 nailed iiiiit
What i also think fed into the meh-ness of the situation is the fact that a lot of normal users despise moderators, so seeing them try to stick up for themselves wasn’t met with the best reaction from the wider community
TLDR:
Reddit: "we are taking away your liberty"
Redditors: "give us liberty or give us death"
Reddit: "death it is"
Redditors: "yo yo we were just playing, no liberty and no death, yay!"
Reddit: "Ha death? You wish."
* peels off Reddit mod sticker on Chetto stained t-shirt *
Redditors: but muh le reddit gold
No liberty it is
How are they taking away anybody's liberty? Reddit is in the right on this issue.
@@yolkthosenuts Reddit also isn't having a direct dialogue with Redditors, nor are they actually threatening Redditors with death, if any of that helps you understand the point of my comment that at least *1500 other people have gotten without issue.
People with real life jobs have more guts for going against their bosses than those pathetic Reddit mods will ever will
100% agree. Most people don't end up going against their boss though (unless they get pushed too far). Most people are servile workers, who will often place their work over their own interests, even when they're legally able to refuse.
If that were true the workers wouldn't be as opressed as they are currently. Sadly, people are very cowardly when opposing higher-ups.
@@18booma Here I am!
@@18boomanever too late to start unionizing
@@sososo1704 Reddit mods are cowards. They'd shiver over the prospect of going outside.
I have some insight into this "turn moderators against each other thing". What I think happened based on some threads I saw last night is that they implied that if anyone on the mod team of a sub was willing to play ball that they would promote that mod to top mod. The moderator list is like a ranking - if a higher mod disagrees with a lower mod then they get the right to overrule that decision. The person with all the power on a sub is the top mod - their mod actions cannot be overturned by the other mods. So basically this implication was that lower mods could "usurp" higher mods if they agreed to reopen.
Sidenote: I was permabanned from a default sub yesterday for telling the top mod he didn't deserve to get paid and that he was power tripping. Instaban lmfao.
Soviet Union-esque power struggle to see who can suck off spez better. Fucking hilarious. Politics exist on every scale
Basically neo-feudalism. Feudal lords weren't paid by the king (at least not formally) but ran their portion of the realm for the power it granted them (and sometimes a sense of duty and obligation). And if they got too uppity they could be replaced.
bruh i knew redditors were pathetic but having a fucking leaderboard for moderators?
no wonder why the site has a god awful mod culture it literally bakes competitiveness into something that should be a colaborative effort.
@@grampaseri true
@@grampaseriThey're playing 4d chess on these guys, lol
I actually stopped using reddit at all. No, I'm not a moderator, or anyone special. I'm a simple user, less than a digit on reddit's spreadsheet.
But what for me started as a protest against the removal of 3rd party apps lead to me finding out how addicted I was to scrolling that f*cking app.
Just dropping it altogether made me discover how much free time I was wasting to the "online engagement monster".
Ive never used reddit so nothing's changed for me xD
It really is about the most on brand redditor move imaginable. You gotta remember that most of these mods are lonely and spend the majority of their time patrolling and managing these massive subreddits, and taking that away will of course make them fall back to being a regular user. It's pretty comical to see how fast they folded, it's like they all stood up for the sake of reddit and then when they got threatened of being "fired", everyone backs down. Literally the only thing they had to lose was their self pride and regardless they lost it anyways
I mean, they lose either way. Either they get replaced and reddit reopens or they don't and reddit reopens. They never had any real leverage to begin with. About all they could really hope to do was make waves to bring awareness to it, which they did, and reddit said don't care so thats all that can be done by those people.
@AWanderingSwordsman that's what I was thinking. The fact is, reddit doesn't need them because rhe CEO will just find more people who want to be mods. That's why he's such a dick about it.
@@AWanderingSwordsman Yeah pretty much. Unless they were able to pull off what happened on day 1 then there was a chance of it being successful. But you're completely right, its kind of hard to "overthrow" an entire platform, per say.
@@AWanderingSwordsmanthey could have gone down as hero martyrs and found greater calling with that title. Oh well. Losers are losers
its pretty pathetic that reddit mods value working for free over anything else
There was never a chance that redditors wouldn’t give up. It’s in their blood
What does that make me? I logged out and didn’t go back. I’m not a Redditor then? I guess?
@@chickenmonger123what sub do you run? It's not about users, it's about the mods not keeping the groups private
It's impossible for them to have power for too long.
No wonder a lot of redditors grew up as outcasts with everyone thinking they're losers
as a redditor, this is so accurate it hurts, the reddit community consists of the weakest most harmless humans
RE "turning mods against each other": This is because the message reddit sent out was basically "Hey, is there any lone dissenter who wants to be made into the lead mod in your subreddit?", because they basically said if there's even a single mod who wants to open the subs, they will make them into the lead mod who can override all the others, and that's what they've done. A number of the subs reopening have basically had someone dissent and turn on the other mods and got reorganized into the leader of the sub mods.
🤣 That's some funny shit right there.
Reddit brain rot is insane.
that's what you THINK happened. but in actuality no one knows, and it's safe to believe exactly what charlie said happened, that those spineless little turds folded as soon as they heard the news.
Lmao actual reddit coup d'etat
@@obie224 good bate
I think the next step in a situation like this would just be to delete the entire subreddit. If extremely popular subreddits just started disappearing, wouldn't that send a pretty heavy message to the CEO?
_Can_ they delete a subreddit? I'm not sure if moderators are actually able to do that.
But even if they did delete the subreddits, they can just be recreated. They'd lose all the old content (unless Reddit keeps backups), but a replacement would still do the job.
I highly doubt that something the size of a popular subreddit can just be deleted without any option to roll back the changes within a set duration like a few days. If i delete my empty firebase project, it allows me to retrieve the content within 30 days lol.
@@Cenentury0941You are both correct. Subs can’t be deleted. And anything that CAN be deleted, is SOFT deleted for a measure of time, before being permadeleted.
@@THEFlea1991 exactly. They have VM containers for exact entire site backups, probably up to a few minutes. Subreddit disappeared? It can be restored instantly and “fixed” to just remove the problem mod. There is nothing they can do.
People just immediately create another subreddit with a similar name.
y'know. I honestly believed they would go through with it. I uninstalled Reddit and deleted my account. Turns out, not everyone is willing to keep promises. :(
you went way too far with that
@@GammaFZ yes. I agree.
Meh, I uninstalled it because it was bad and am heavily reducing how often I visit the site.
There's some info there that isn't anywhere else with people keeping on top of the current status.
Maybe eventually a decent competitor (free/cheap) will show up and I'll jump ship
Leaving reddit is a good thing, happy for you!
You have more willpower than these mfs that’s for sure
It's hilarious watching Reddit moderators treat surrendering to Steve to save their subreddits like it's the French surrendering to Germany to save Paris
Then throwing Spez out would be like kicking the asses of the Axis.
Except one would cost even more thousands of lives and cause unrepairable damage to one of the cultural hubs of an entire continent, and one is some obese pedo not wanting to lose a title on a single part of a single website
I know the whole France-Germany thing is kinda a meme but honestly at least with the French they were surrendering to literal nazi's, whereas with Reddit Mods it's just pathetic, since they didn't even have anyting at stake.
@@QuackersMcCrackers they do have something at stake. A bad life. If only they lost their positions, they could have had a job and had a better life.
The subreddit would be there still, the mods won't.
Those mods would rather die than give up their mod power.
Remarkable how the mods were smart enough to realize the effect they had on the website as a whole, but as soon as their power was remotely threatened they completely caved in. Really on-brand for Reddit too, a group of people who are smart-ish except in situations that actually matter. People are saying "ohh giving the site a specific timeframe was a blunder", but part of me thinks that even with an indefinite protest, Steve making that one threat would've still been enough to get many subreddits back open.
Many are still not caving in tho? Over 4000 subs are still close.
As much as I want to give the subreddits that opened after a mere 2 days shit for being this dumb, yeah, ultimately those that are higher up on the totem pole than just subreddit mod will absolutely have the most power here. If it had anymore of an effect to the point where the CEO got more desperate he really would just force the subreddits open himself, with no regard to how. We've seen the internet's response when it comes to these things, start some topics, bitch and complain, but continue onward like nothing ever happened, so it'd absolutely work, people would still flock to subreddits with scab mods.
@@niello5944 Not for long, in one way or another. Those subs are coming back up with or without them
steve only made the threats to subs that didnt reopen after 48 hours so you're probably right, but i there are still a good number of subs that are privated / restricted still which is good. its about half of the big ones, and i dont think its over yet but the ball is defintely in the process of being fumbled.
@@niello5944 lol bro no reddit mod is going to truly quit bc of this. they are literal addicts
This needed to be a full fledged boycott, and nobody had the guts to do it and put down Reddit in definitely. That they put a time limit on the strike, showcased their addiction is and how their "subreddit is too important to close. It's where I hang out." There is excuse after excuse to actually hurt reddit vs maintaining it. They gave in and suddenly everybody forgets about Apollo and has to ensure their bots stay live to make sure the subreddit goes on as planned. Unbelievable.
I dont use Reddit so I’m not invested in this situation but it just pisses me off that people go on strikes where they could literally lose their jobs but these people can’t go without their Reddit for a few days
It's sad. As an avid Reddit user, I'd happily, and have before, not touched Reddit for weeks at a time, especially if it stops a company from being proven right
The UPS situation is one you could get behind then.
@@clint-thenormalguy-rockwell365 Exactly, I literally just go there for literal shits and giggles, like I pretty much get my daily memes from there, and if it meant showing a company to stop their bs then hell yeah I’m willing to stop that indefinitely. It’s a shame these other people aren’t able to do the same and literally caved in at the mere mention that they’ll lose any power over others.
People seem to think Reddit is only for cat pics or girl boobies. There are hundred of subs for sharing information on really niche subjects and if they go on protesting forever, people won't be able to access those information.
to be honest Americans don't go on strikes much either.
If being a reddit mod is already looked down upon, just imagine being a _scab_ reddit mod.
I’m unfamiliar with scab, mind explaining?
wtf is that
@@roachdoggjr7020 Basically someone crossing the picket line to take the job of one of the protestors
The age of the internet is introducing previously undiscovered lows 🤔
@@roachdoggjr7020 "Scab" is a derogatory term for opportunistic people who break union picket lines and take over their jobs during protests. They scab over the wound left by protestors so the company doesn't bleed money.
_Nobody_ respects scabs.
I said this before the boycott started and I’ll say it again: If you have a pre-determined date for when your boycott ends, especially if it’s literally just two days after it starts, then you’re not doing the boycott because you believe the issue needs to be resolved, you’re just doing it because it’s the popular thing to do and you’re jumping on a bandwagon.
Exactly
Unfortunately this is EXACTLY how redditors work
Boycotts don't work anyway.
Penguinz0 is my inspiration my parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging
@@MbitaChizi Your parents are well known in the community for their false promises. It's why they're not allowed at the PTA meetings. Don't get your hopes up, squirt.
I used to be a redditor, and i really liked the way the site was structured. Too bad reddit refuses to change, I've been looking for a "good" social media platform since.
discord lmao
Discord, snapchat, instagram.
Discord is that one good dad who tried impressing the kid but embarrasses themselves instead
@AppleApple-cl4xk it's heart is in the right place, though
@@arstotzka6520discord is worse
These Reddit mods are the equivalent of Eric Cartman. Give them a smidge of power, they'll abuse it maliciously and you can't pry them off it with a crowbar
'respek my authoritae'
- E. Cartman
Screw you guys I am going home
@@WhoAmEye_WhoAreEwebruh😂
Translate to English actually works on it.
@@j.m7070 👍
@@sck3570 M'kay
If the Redditors kept it up for a week or two, that would definitely upset the CEO because of the loss of ad revenue and maybe there would be slight changes. Oh well.
That is still not enough, should be at least 9 freakin months
Eh, never mind, if they locked out all the subs for too long, the CEO would force open all of those and kick out all the mods just to replace them with extremely violent "power mods"
@SihamHamda47 Memes Then they should've started to sabotage the Subreddits, making sure that even if it opens, the experience terrible, maybe try banning all the people from even entering it in the first place for a long time, that would've definitely still make it a hassle for people to return, had they stick with their guns and started shooting when the CEO started to get rid of mods they would've absolutely damaged the site irreparably for a long time, plus with most of the moderators leaving, it would be very great to start posting... Some unsavory materials for their advertisers, it would've been a second wave of protests, 4Chan and so many others would definitely take advantage of the chaos to make the advertisers lives hell and would give that autist loking Steve a punch to the face.
I visit Reddit specifically for the memes. I didn’t care and thought the “protest” was stupid.
@@Broomer52 Not only dumb, the majority of people don't even use 3rd party apps, so it was a dumb protest by some terminally online minority. Truly a reddit moment.
If they kept it up they'd get demodded and still lose anyway. They just have no leverage at all. They have negative leverage.
A mod banned me from a subreddit for an "offensive" comment on the Hogwarts game. They kept banning me from any other subreddits I commented on for no reason because most of them mod multiple subreddits. That's when I realised Im becoming a proper redditor and stepped in some dogshit I don't need in my life. Deleted the app immediately and I don't regret it. The mods on reddit are never going to give up their position in protest.
I was going to tell you to seek help in the first half. But I'm genuinely surprised. A commenter actually sought help 🙏🙏 may the Lord, the universe, Allah or Xenu bless you on your journey good sir
What did you say that made them ban you in the first place?
Or you could realize that the entire platform is not defined by the actions of one mod? That's like deleting Facebook, because you got kicked out from a group.
@ more like deleting Facebook because you get kicked out from any group you try to join
@ If the mod kicks you out of several topics the website becomes unusable.
To quote Oversimplified:
“A noble cause, a bad plan, and TERRIBLE execution.”
They chose to go down in the most pathetic reddit-y way possible after banded together and standing up to the corporation, that's just embarassing
They went from looking like a strong and united community to shitting their pants when the Reddit CEO wiggles his finger.
Charlie is my inspiration my parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a better mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging
Definition of a Reddit moment
Atleast they did something
, Unlike youtube and Twitter who just sucks off their CEO.
The Reddit CEO really stuck to his guns and did not budge so you got to hand it to him for being the embodiment of his product, Mr Reddit
He turned his product into garbage. I haver zero respect for him.
He did a better job at sticking to his guns than the Reddiors. He was also right about how it was just going to blow over.
The name is Reddit….James Reddit.
@@derf93 I'm sure he's worried he's lost the respect of DERF. He'll probably be crying, as he bones your wife, mother, whatever you have that he can bone.
@@numnaut1314 What were the mods really gonna do? Get replaced en mass with a decent chance the fresh mods fuck shit up? Its a lose lose situation. Either they came back or Reddit Corpo will scrape up the nearest methhead, gas em up, and let him go apeshit. Shits fucked.
Truly a redditor moment
wE dId iT rEdDiT
Indeed
Seems like our only option for victory is begging for wholesome keanu reeves chungus 100 to help us
Yup he’s not wrong. I remember in one of the Reddit subs a mod was like “we can’t close this sub because a lot of people depend on the information from it”. I was like “People can live without Reddit trust me 😂”. After some backlash they closed only for 1 day and no one was impressed with them 😂. These mods wholly believe that their subreddits are like the most essential thing in the internet and that no one can live without them. I can’t blame anyone for hating them because they take themselves and their subreddits way too seriously.
Lol absolutely! Although, in their defense, the only way I'm even able to get decent answers to questions on half the search engines out there is to add "reddit" at the end of my query, so at least reddit is helpful to have around.
@@zeppelins4ever I'd like to ask what queries you are asking. Or perhaps request that you reflect on the solutions you got and re-examine whether they were actually good. Because every time I get answers from Reddit, it's shit.
Stack Exchange does the answers thing, but better. Still has the piss-ant mods and communities though.
@@CrizzyEyes usually i find answers to obscure questions on reddit like tech and gaming problems, sometimes health too
@@CrizzyEyes same as what Mariebun said, usually when it comes to niche, obscure stuff, reddit is most helpful (though I do try to find other sources to verify, I'm not just going to outright trust an answer without some sort of proof, but again, reddit tends to lead me in the right direction at the bare minimum, even if I have to look at some of the less upvoted comments). Stack Exchange is very helpful though, and much more thorough, I will agree! But they don't always have the exact specific info I'm looking for.
Dude redditors might take the cake for caring about subs, i didn’t mind if it was indefinite cuz either they actually solve the problem or i lose my addiction but SOOO many people we’re seething at the mods when they reopened, for closing in the first place
Entitlement seems to run deep amongst mods and users alike
Oh no, someone will take away their Boy Scout badge! Watch them give up on their morals and beliefs. Let’s hope none of them become politicians. We have enough of those types as it is.
This is what i was thinking. It took only the slightest notion of an inconvenience to them for them to give up on their personal beliefs and what they were protesting about. It really goes to show you how people value power and clout over community and the general good. Pretty sad for them.
Whoa whoa whoa.... Boys scout badges require real life action to obtain.
@@SacredLiquidlol. Fair!
@@SacredLiquidand actual skills. If I'm stranded outside I'd rather have a former boy scout with me then some mod that thinks he's an intellectual because he runs some shty subreddit.
Coming from a life scout this is funny lol and they're called Merit Badges tho
As someone who really enjoys using reddit but no longer has a chronic dependency on the internet, I have to admit that I honestly knew nothing about the strike because apparently I did my part by... not checking for 2 days??
Not checking for 2 days? And you call yourself a redditor?
How does a person like using reddit
Got to admit after not being on reddit for a while, I do feel better. Going back to public freakouts just made me mad.
I only found out about the blackout while trying to research some troubleshooting to a tech problem.
@@bigship7148Lots of info on there. If you don't treat it like social media, it's very useful
My favorite was r/nba mods. They made it sound like the protest worked & they were actively communicating with the higher ups at reddit & felt it was appropriate to reopen r/nba bc they were satisfied with what the admins were going to do to resolve the protest.
don't forget they made their own championship threads and commented on them. so they forced regular users to strike while they kept using reddit
R/Metallica tried to make you pay to view it.
Yeah, they removed that.
Do note that for a lot of these subreddits, they're being opened back up so that they can continue protesting. r/Pics and r/Gifs, for example, both now only allow John Oliver. This is definitely a better outcome then those mods being replaced with anti-protest mods who wouldn't allow protest material at all.
Oh I thought those new rules were because the OG mods got replaced by new ones or smth, I didn't know they were still protesting with John Oliver content.
It's such a pathetic protest though, like their traffic is probably nearly unscathed....
I’m in a subreddit r/ILPT and now every time you post you have to include any image that has a sock in it😂 these things are getting out of control lmao
@@MrDaAsif
I suppose the idea is that they reduce traffic by having there be no content..? Idk but it's still disappointing, at least at first glance
r/3dshacks is posting 3d shacks lol
So about that turning mods against each other thing. There was a line on the email that said something along the lines that if ONE moderator wanted the sub opened again, reddit would essentially make them King of the Mods and can the rest of them. They really were gunning for these mods to stab each other in the back.
That is the most childish, Scooby Doo villain BS i've heard...and yet it worked to threaten them hard enough? To hell with the CEO and Reddit, but to hell with these mods, too.
Let's be real, no one expected this to work, that Reddit karma is like copium to Redditors.
I'd say Karma is like meth to them
I didn't expect it to work because it was just a really shitty plan. Their entire thought process was "to protest Reddit we'll cut it's traffic in half to show Spez we're not fucking around" but that was never going to change the fact that Reddit is so big and is used by so many people for solutions to problems that aren't answered by Google or Quora.
thats not what copium means
@@anonymist-n8z I specifically used that term, to cope from the sad realization that they are redditors / reddit moderators.
Cringe
The saddest part is knowing pretty much none of these people are going to learn that, if you want to be a hero, you have to be ready to endure when (not if) your enemy does something that will seriously hurt you.
Except in this case it was less "seriously hurt" and more "cause an inconvenience for," which makes things even sadder.
barely an inconvenience, too. Charlie had the right idea, getting kicked from moderating a subreddit would actually be an improvement to their lives.
Reddit mods are the Mitlaufer of Internet society
I try to say this kind of shit too. It’s the same in real life. If you want to affect change then you need to sacrifice.
this is the same reason people cheered for lockdowns and wearing masks. they got to feel like these ultra heros while doing nothing and risking nothing.
They woulda been surrendering before they even reached the beach on D-day
Im not a reddit mod, and yet I feel like I let Charlie down :( he's so right
Imagine not being able to live without Reddit more than 48 hours.
Reddit mods are embodiments of the phrase "I'll fight for a cause but I won't die for one."
like an American Mercenary in Ukraine, i'll fight for a cause but i won't die, and if i do, i fucked around and found out
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанцаwtf are you on about
Mitlaufer, I believe works here
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца wtf you talking about
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца why would an american mercenary fuck around in ukraine? Why cant it be a european mercenary?
Threatening a Reddit mod with losing their status is like threatening a parent with the murder of his children
“Please! It’s the only thing I’ve ever had responsibility over. I have the power to ban people and I feel important. I was bullied my whole life and this is my calling, don’t remove me!”
this is comically sad
@@TheProphegy it’s more like, “please do not destroy the community of half 1 million members that I’ve spent building over the past eight years”.
It wasn’t just threats they actually replaced mods.
@@RiverBaine An online community, it literally means nothing. They can go literally anywhere else and restart the community if they don;t like it. Or they can, y'know, go outside and meet real people instead of living in their echo chambers of reddit. Plus let's not forget that they spent the last eight of their years WILLINGLY building it. Reddit wasn't contracting them out to put together the subreddit, it was purely a hobby that they took far too seriously.
For protesting corporate greed, they sure did give the most corporate PR type apology statement and even used bangers like "positivity" and "safer for everyone"
I'm absolutely baffled that they cannot stay away from the site, it's like reddit is their whole universe. They *had* the self-respect to "protest" but now completely lost their collective dignity for folding so hard.
Imagine if Twitter went down for a day. Oh the blur hair mob would lose their shit
@munkydreads The difference with reddit is it seems like redditors have real cognitive dissonance where they think they've achieved peak human performance by being in a reddit thread daily. A lot of people on Twitter are at least somewhat aware it's garbage, but still use it
Addiction
It's honestly sad, man. I deleted my reddit account a month ago and am so glad I'm out.
I use reddit once in a blue moon to see the dumbest people on the planet, like I'm visiting a zoo. You're right on the money with saying Reddit is their whole universe.
The amount of times I've had idiots reply to me on Reddit with something along the lines of "No one is going to give your comment likes here!" as if that matters at all. They self censure there to pretend they're popular and it's very sad.
"Being a Reddit mod is like an insult at this point. They'd be doing you a favour" 😅
It was always an insult lol. Same for discord mods. Stereotype or not i always love these memes
I read this gem just as he said it, freaked me out a bit. 😮
I believe the term of choice is "janny", thank you very much.
This is informative and unfortunate.
Edit: God damn a lot of salty losers replying to this lol
Hey Louis, big fan. 🤙
And sadly, exactly as expected v.v
yo momma unfortunate
Yoo
Is it really unfortunate? If you use a thrid party app, they don't get ad money and they're paying for the bandwidth. That is terrible business.
I feel so vindicated. The idea that the handful of reddit mods were going to give up their own illusory power, which is probably all they have going on in their lives, was ridiculously naive to begin with. Add to that the fact that redditors are completely addicted to the site, and you have a recipe for the most useless protest since Occupy Wall Street.
The thing about Reddit threatening to replace mods is that it's a total lose-lose situation. You could open back up on your own, quitting the indefinite commitment or you could be replaced with people who will probably agree with the terrible API changes, and the sub will still open back up. The first option is better to still let the subs think of different ways to protest. For example, r/pics now only allows posts of John Oliver in sexy outfits
I like how Charlie’s tone the whole time is just “I’m not mad, just disappointed”
Its sad how they easily could've redeemed their names for being Reddit mods and actually fight a just cause. Too bad they immediately pulled out once they heard they're power was going away.
They were so close to make "reddit mod" not an insult, but the addiction to power spoke louder
Yeah. Power is a helluva drug.
Reddit moment lol
I only use reddit for those niche questions for a very specific issue that there happens to be just 1 reddit post about it and it saves me months of my life.
As soon as any company tries to become publicly traded it immediately goes to shit. That's what happens when you're bound by law to make as much money as possible as fast as possible.
It’s like crypto scams except legal for some reason
remember buzzfeed? what a karmic event that was
It doesn't help that the people chosen to be executives are psychopaths.
You're correct. Corporatism at its finest.
it's sad what abused capitalism and corporatism does, it tries to be deceptive towards consumers when it becomes publicly traded
From what I've heard, the focus has switched from privating subreddits to posting hours of white noise videos to overload servers and changing the purpose of the subreddits to just posting memey stuff, which then ends up on the front page. Whatever will make potential investors look at reddit and see the situation for the dumpster fire it is
i hope reddit becomes a dumpster fire, or really just the world
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца
Welcome to the 2020s, where rock bottom gets lower by the month and year, until we fall straight through the other side of Earth, then into geosynchronous orbit.
@@ismayonnaiseaninstrument8700 well just simply launch a nuke, American friend and maybe we will make it much quicker to unleash nuclear war
How many people are even protesting anymore?
Charlie is my inspiration my parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging
Honestly any moderators worst nightmare is losing that power. Not suprising that it was used against them.
Yep. The reddit CEO called it. He said it'll pass in a month just like everything else.
Redditors gave up?!?!
Wow didn’t see that coming, especially with every failed EA game boycott
They have no self control
It’s like when a child stops breathing as a tantrum, a parent knows the kid will either stop or pass out lmao. Redditors can’t stop their natural body functions
fax
Why comments needs to be higher, the weirdest yet funniest analogy I’ve seen.
"Natural body functions"
NAH, BRO OUT HERE CALLING REDDIT MODS LIFELESS HUSKS
I mean he has a point BUT STILL 💀
the fact that Corporations are able to this is sad and disappointing, but also the Redditors should have held on stronger even though what they did was great
@@FullAutoWitch Tell me how that would be possible. Even if 100% of them held the subreddits private, they still could EASILY be replaced with new ones.
@@brunomenezes9011Exactly. A part of the problem in general, not just Reddit, is that a lot of the companies pulling this kind of bs and making massive (and usually awful decisions (see Netflix and RUclips)) even when their entire userbase is against it and protesting is because they're so unique they're almost a monopoly, and they know that the users really can't go anywhere else and will eventually just give in. It's an annoying and frustrating problem that leave consumers feeling angry and powerless.
Yup. O well, guess my Divinity 2 discussions are safe
Reddit mods... They gave up on themselves in their personal lives. It's sad to see. But if they can do that to themselves, they can do that to anything. I hope things get better for them and their mental health. *Life is difficult. I don't hold it against them for becoming like this.* But it's just not good to be so weak like this. *Can't even stay away from Reddit for more than 2 days. Can't even tolerate the idea of not being a Reddit mod* - even when the majority of the Reddit community was supporting them. *There's a problem there.* Hopefully they work on it.
@doomguy5244 Do you ever have any worthwhile comments, or do you just do white noise exclusivly?
I didn't even know third party apps were a thing
I knew as soon as this started it would fail. All Reddit had to do was threaten to remove the mods which is a death sentence for anyone who is chronically online.
Also reddit mods feeling morally superior but folding when their tiny amount of power was at stake is just a classic
reddit did it and now the page is used for anything its not made for as a fuck you to huffman. redditors are still fighting.
LSF's message having some dumb shit like "happy unicorns give zealous joy" at the end is the most Reddit thing out there.
That's just sad. When people begin a protest for a very veeery good reason and then some of em get really scared for their unpaid and "unimportant" role as a hall monitor and just abandon the whole protest by giving in. It's a slap in the face for the whole reddit community, and not a good slap like God Slap.
I once got mass downvoted for saying “citizens should not be allowed to have heavy weaponry” mmmm Reddit
Rare Redditor W, don’t take away my private bazooka.
Could've worked out, but as many people have said, "Reddit is just Twitter with an inferiority complex". They were way too addicted to fake internet points to actually do something.
funny how out of all social medias, reddit's internet points/ updots are by far the most useless.
Penguinz0 is my inspiration my parents said if I get 10k followers They'd buy me a mic for recording..begging u guys, literally begging
Turning mods against each other is to find the weakness in the mods that don't want to lose the power to force them to reopen while the other still strong in their conviction.
A lot of mods think they have power or that people care. There is millions of subreddits and these mods are nobodies and act like they’re important. 😆 They’ve never had power before and abuse it.
You guys have to understand. These mods are doing this for free because they like what that sub represent. For them to have such a vice grip like that can only happen if they care so much. Losing that control on a place that they call home is really bad.
What's worse is that if their replacement was so sloppy and not actually moderating, and then the subreddit goes down to the forever-private for no moderator.
Even though i knew where this whole fiasco was going, it was still the funniest shit seeing it happen. Reddit mods immeadiatly bending over the moment they are threatened with losing their mod status is comedy gold.
It seems like something out of a comedy.
Tf were they going to do? The 2 options were opening the subreddit yourself or be replaced and have them open anyways. The smart thing to do wasnt to die on that hill. It's stupid to call them cowards for that
@@pirilon78 nope. Way smarter because reddit would collapse without the og mods. They wouldn't even have enough people to replace them. A total bluff that only idiots would fall for.
@@measlesplease1266 Yeah I had a feeling about that. I also had my own takes on it on what would be the possibilities, first possibility is "og mods" assigning one of their own in that community which is like 10% possibility, the second possibility is likely because I guarantee that they probably won't even assign a real person and would just abandon that subreddit to die.
But honestly in your opinion how much of a bluff is it really?
@@blatantslander your right sadly tho mods can't let there power trip leave them they could not stand dealing with being a normal person sadly.
Is he gonna talks about how a lot of subreddits are turning into nsfw to protest the ads?