@@wednesdeityevery company does. They’re good if you don’t use extensions or anything like that and just need a convenient browser but it’s not that great to run and customize outside of looks that I’ve seen in reviews. I don’t like it but I’m just so used to chrome and all it’s abilities
Exactly! It's sheer laziness to just allow whoTFever to claim a video and immediately start taking their revenue, without question or proof. I get that there's a law, but YT is enacting this in the most hands-off way possible and it only ever hurts innocent content creators.
Yeah I agree. RUclips needs to take some of the blame for this. It keeps happening under their watch and they are not doing anything about.. ya know why? It's probably because they are gonna have to hire actual people to work in the copyright department which means less revenue for investors. So they rely on algorithms cuz it's cheap. Obviously.
this is america its really fucking sad isn't it weed is harmless, yet lives are literally being ended because of it (prison) while stealing literally millions of dollars is just a 5 year sentence very fair indeed
If we don’t hear from you we know what happened youtube ceo really need to re evaluate there stance on things like this Protecting scammers with lazy systems
It always becomes an unusually sad and heavy court case when the victims are somehow complicit in facilitating their own theft. You can not get away with doing nothing to stop the thieves when they are not even armed to hurt you!
5 years means he's serving a day for each 12600 dollars that he's stolen. When's the last time you stole twelve thousand dollars and got a day of punishment for it?
Unbelievable for us poors, right? But laws are designed to be slipped by the wealthy. Hell, remember that story about how Elon stole emeralds worth tens of thousands from his dad as a kid? Just normal things for these kinds of people - it’s like stealing a toothbrush to them.
Bro, I'm WILLINGLY going that 70 months if it means I walk away with 23 million clams. That is an EASY price to pay. I'm about to know every inmate by name and have secret handshakes with like a third of em.
Also, if you contest the copyright claim, the "company" who claimed it gets to decide whether or not it was a false claim, which they never do of course. Can't believe youtube still doesn't recognize this as a major oversight in their platform.
It’s insane. We had an old song get claimed by someone because 2 seconds of it sounded like a couple notes from their own song _that was uploaded several years after ours_ 😂 Fortunately it was one we hadn’t cared about for years & it’s not like we ever got big views, so it didn’t matter much. We did try to contest it at the time for the hell of it though, and exactly what you said happens...is what happened. “Oh well whatever” & all, but when it happens to a relatively popular artist/band/creator I can only imagine how frustrating it is
Same the only thing is the restitution if they make him pay a certain amount and that's the only thing that could suck cuz if u don't pay u go to jail again and again like child support but out of 23 million I know he still has alot somewhere and they probably only charged him less than 3 or 4 million restitution when he gets out unless he made a deal and gave them a couple million when he got prosecuted
RUclips is the primary profiteer as they get a percentage regardless of who wins the claim. This is clear selective enforcement. If the DA hasnt prosecuted anyone else (namely youtube), they are selectively choosing who and when to prosecute which is unenforceable. This guy needs to appeal. The entire judicial system is illegitimate.
@@FireGodSpeed Wrong. "Teran personally obtained more than $6 million in personal profit, which he used to sustain a lavish lifestyle. " "The government requests that the Court set a restitution hearing to determine an appropriate restitution amount. The PSR set restitution in the amount of $1,464,717.90. (PSR at 24-25). The government is actively working to obtain information from other victims, which is a substantial undertaking because the majority of victims reside outside of the United States. The government has recently expanded its notification efforts to include Spanish-language notifications and is further widening its public outreach. A future restitution hearing would afford sufficient time for additional victims involved in this case to come forward. "
RUclips needs to add an option where you can fight a claim due to lack of standing or fraud. It is so archaic that the CLAIMER gets to decided whether to drop the claim, which they absolutely never do. I talked to a RUclips rep about this once and the only real advice they gave was "seek legal counsel". So for small creators like me, we are basically screwed.
These dumb rules are probs older than some of youtubes reps at this point lmao. Data analysis has come so far since the days of ray william johnson and =3, when these rules were necessary. They just don’t care because they think these rules don’t hurt youtube, just creators
Well, if you are a smaller creator then you could always take RUclips to small claims court. It doesn't cost much and usually lawyers aren't allowed. It's basically like Judge Judy. If RUclips doesn't send someone to show up then you automatically win.
Soooo true ishowspeeed copystrikes any video that just says his name doing pretty much the same thing I guess that why his name wasn’t brought up in the video cuz ishowspeed and his team probably will copystrike me for saying his name in the comments smh
I still do not encourage or endorse committing any sort of grand larceny or theft on the internet just because you know there is a light sentence for stealing music money from other users. 5 years and 10 months in prison will feel even longer when you actually experience that prison time for yourself. I wish I knew enough about RUclips to know how false copyright strikes will eventually harm the bottom line of the higher-ups, and not just the bottom line of individual users.
@@adampkalb They don't actually. RUclips themselves take a portion of advertising revenue from each video. The part you steal with false copyright is the creators portion, completely separate from RUclips's portion, so it cost them nothing so they aren't in a rush to fix it.
As a musician I cannot tell you how frustrating it is how easily some random person can just claim your music. There are processes you have to go through to get the copy right back to it's original owner, but it's so much hassle when the original person that stole it basically just said "yeah that's mine."
I'm in a similar boat. Are there any prophylactic measures small artists can take to stop their music from being claimed by others? Does having everything on Spotify or registered with ASCAP
@derekalexandersmith definitely with your P.R.O. it might be a slow process to get your rights back. But at least with registering your tracks with ASCAP, BMI, etc. You already have the intial rights. So ultimately youll have a strong case.
Look here, Jay z was going to buy his child a new 120 inch plasma screen television, now thanks to these pirates he can only afford the 100 inch plasma screen. Still think piracy is cool?
@@derekalexandersmith You can create another account and copyright strike your own songs so you still get all the revenue, youtube doesn't care about the copyright system enough to stop you, they don't even stop others from copyright striking other people's videos unrighteously.
@@patrikgajcevic8123that’s if he hasn’t spent it or offshored it or something. Even if he has to pay it back over time with interest, if he withdraws it and invests it, he’ll still make money.
This really high-lights how batshit inane RUclipss approach to copyright is. “Hey that’s mine” seems to be all it takes. Their only concern seems to be removing themselves from any liability at the expense of their own content creators.
The worst part is that if they hadn't been quite so egregiously greedy, if they just cut and ran at 6 or 7 mil, shut it down and walked away, they probably would have zero repercussions.
They still have zero repercussions, 5 years, (2 1/5 years at least with good behavior) on top of a small fine that he can easily pay off with the money he made. He didn't suffer anything but a couple years with nothing else
5 years feels WAY too lucky, bro deserved at least 10 or more. He dosent deserve the luck. There’s literally people who get more then 5 years for stupid things while this dude gets 5. Absolutely infuriating.
Let's be real here...5 years (actually probably like, at most, with good behavior, 2-1/2 years) with a 1.4M dollar fine for 23M dollars revenue? This guy didn’t get a punishment, he got a weak slap on the wrist.
Idk man. People all over the video are commenting on the "weak" sentence that he got. But he got 2 years. 2 years is probably enough for rehabilitation. The guy didn't commit any murder. And I am quite sure all his stolen money will be seized. Getting even 2 years of jail time will also hinder the guy's ability to get employment, so yes, there is a permanent punishment he will be facing for the rest of his life
The important question is whether the $20 million were seized from the scammers or not. 5 years is getting off easy and last thing you'd want is for them to still have even a cent of that money when they return.
If other comments are to be believed, he was ordered to retun $1.4M of it. So basically nothing. I'd spend 5 years in prison for $20M every single day. It's basically like having a job that pays $4M a year.
@Lightn0x the date for the restitution hearing hasn’t been set yet. They mentioned $1.4 million in the article but they are still looking for other victims. The final amount won’t be decided until the restitution hearing is complete. That article also said that the $23 million that was scammed was split between at least 5 other co conspirators
@@Lightn0xll his money was seized. Only 1.4 million of it was returned to the victims because of logistics. It would be dumb if he was allowed to keep all that money when they knew how much was stolen
All you have to do as scammer is to gift that money to family or invest it outside of country you live, preferably in country with no extradition laws like Argentina and you will never have to return anything. I don't think there was single person in history of USA to actually pay what court ordered. It's almost always settled outside courtroom at much much lower sum as most scammers will have very little if any money that can be connected to them. I worked in European IRS for years then as accountant, trust me they will not pay anything, they will return to same scam in matter of days, we even got some people continue to do scamms from within prisons by proxies... It's YT that needs to change it's policy or nothing will change
@@dakotareid1566Sooo he still has 21.6M? In exchange for 5 years of his life? So more then 4M a year, bro just got a very well-paying job at this point.
RUclips is complicit in an astronomical amount of illegal activity, and they tacitly encourage it. The problem is they have essentially unlimited money from Google which means huge law teams that no one wants to go up against.
Legally speaking what youtube does is the safest route. They involve themselves as little as possible so in case something goes wrong the 2 parties are supposed to duke it out in court and not be able to involve youtube. On the other hand if youtube reviewed the claims then they would be an active participant, meaning every time a fake claim comes up they would be included in the lawsuits.
@Select2Play at this point there has been so many false claims there is no possible way that youtube hasn't reviewed at least 1 of them they should be held accountable for their blatant complacency to what is very obviously happening and has been happening under their noses for over a decade now. They cannot hide behind the bs "We didn't see it happen" argument at this point especially when so many prominent youtubers have either called them out for allowing it or flamed them on Twitter about it
@@ProfSplendorFactionespcially when youtubes team is more than aware of false copyrights in the music industry. They should be held accountable for being bad at their jobs
You're assuming that the legal system treats individuals as being on an equal footing with corporations. It does not - corporations have far more rights and weight than individuals do. Welcome to America.
The law should consider crimes like these as Grand Larceny. It is the same thing as stealing 23 million dollars from a bank. Give him a life sentence please
Wow. That is very sad and pathetic how RUclips's community guidelines and rules against false copyright claims and false copyright strikes, do not value the security of their users like a real bank. They do not take cheaters of the copyright system seriously enough to de-incentivize these offenses from happening again simply because they think they are big enough to recover from this. RUclips wrongfully assumes that no grand larceny will be grand enough to shut them down forever, not even shut them down for a short week.
@PodpolkovnikGeorgeCostanza there are many ways to help yourself, scamming is one of the most scum options and it just builds a reputation youll regret to live by. Its something that you do and can very unlikely go back on, bless their souls
Right? I see so many scams and scam ads, and yet they put more time into fucking over honest content creators than protecting users from actual villains.
Bruh. They don't even bother trying to fix the bot problem on here, you think they give enough of a shit to deal with something actually legally dubious?
One of the things I find to be super irritating is when you pay to license sound packs in perpetuity and mix some audio for a video from it, and then some a**hole copyrights your video because they licensed the same audio pack and used it for some song they made. It’s just so irritating that RUclips allows this to happen. I’m glad this guy got fried for it, but it need to happen more. There’s a ton of this bullsh!t going around. It’s infuriating.
5:58 wow it's almost like it's RUclips's fault for allowing this type of shit to have even occurred. Maybe every single person who approved his royalties or whatever should get 5 years in jail too.
Can we agree that this isn't about protecting artists or users, but about the money record companies could have stolen from creators, getting stolen from them?
Initially it was made easy to calm the companies down on how easy it would be for them to copyright claim their content on the platform. But like any goodwill based systems its only a matter of time before people realize the possible exploits.
I dunno what people expect from the company that's been actively helping kiddy fiddler rings get around and share money/tips/data They've been very much against the "common man" for a long time. If you ain't got high up connections that are out there diddling little ones, Google is not your friend, you are their prey
Imagine working your whole life on your craft to finally be able to share it on the internet and then someone takes all the money from the hard work you put in
Imagine if he stole that money from a bank, he would have way longer sentence. But justice system seems to think its not a big deal when it comes to this situation
The real issue here is that there are almost always no repercussions for issuing fake claims or takedowns, from youtube or the law, unless they are really brazen about it.
My theory for why financial crimes get such light sentences is because then it sets a precident that benifits certain groups of people. Like politicians.
Between the copyright claim scammers, the copyright claim abuses by legit publishers, and the outright wrong copyright claims being asserted by RUclips, I hope that there is eventually a class action lawsuit against RUclips for their accommodation and facilitation of all of it. In an age where AI can identify and discern and analyze and report, it is ridiculous how all of these scams and abuses are possible at all, which has gotta make you wonder how much YT profits from allowing it all.
@YouCouldBeHere yeah literally any idiot reporting you, or if you write *swear word* YOU, or YOU *swear word* it will auto delete comment if you post and then likely give a 24 hour mute, it's fucking pathetic and if you just swear too much in general. i swear alot and it's CONSTANTLY giving me the "R U SURE U WANNA POST THIS ITS SOOOO MEAN!!!!!!:(" bullshit popups, where if you click anyways it INSTA auto deletes/doesn't even post, and after a few times in a single day it triggers a mute... it's a joke now
RUclips needs to be banned from using AI and automation for copyright stuff. Like straight up And be forced to hire the appropriate HUMAN manpower to compensate. Let's see how much this shit dies overnight after that happens.
Honestly it’s a shame how low brow some sentences are for financial crimes in the United States. It seems like even a grand larceny charge (stealing more than 10,000$ in stuff) often gets people more time than more white collar esque crimes like embezzlement etc.
grand larceny charges are NOT 10k, it's like a few hundred/thousand... i got hit with grand larceny over like $800 that i didn't even take(the fuckin kid blacked out drunk and put it in his glove box and literally was dropping 100s on the ground and lost soooo much money and then him and his mom were mad so called the cops and said we stole it, which is why it ended up getting dropped) so it's ABSOLUTELY not 10,000.
RUclips seriously needs to have a penalty system against content ID/copyright abusers. Like the community strike system, there needs to be consequences to remove abusers and make it harder for these people to profit off this abuse to this level.
I love how they say it's a hefty sentence but if if he stole the same amount from a bank or company he would have gone into the slammer for 10 to 15 years
The biggest take away is just how broken RUclips copyright system still is even after over a decade. I remember when PewDiePie just mentioned Despacito in a video title, didn't even play the song (half attempted a couple chords on a guitar) and the video was claimed 27 times for a song _that wasn't played in the video._ So 27 people, individuals or parasitic legal firms, claimed the video saying they represented the copyright holder, and RUclips said 'oh, yeah, seems legit'.
Jim Sterling had this problem for so long, they usually only take money from Patreon and leave all the youtube video completely ads free, people would false claim the videos and put ads on it, so they decided to copy right claim the videos first and deny all the ads to be placed on the videos
It baffles me to no end how a human being can do something so absolutely vile to ANOTHER human being without being remorseful enough to think twice. the world we currently live in is absurd
Heartless criminals like this have always existed. The only thing the modern world changed about the situation is by giving them a wider variety of mechanisms to commit their crimes.
@@chadhinkley7532 I dont think its something new, I think its just ridiculous its still considered human nature to be enemies of your own kind What im trying to say is, something clearly needs to change. Unfortunately, as one individual person among the millions of people, im unable to do anything. Im just expressing my concerns for the world we live in
@@Mi_Fa_Volareit’s amazing how safe harbor isn’t revoked by this alone, the IRS had to catch these people, google and youtube would have let this happen forever with their hands off approach.
it’s not like youtube doesn’t know, there’s no way in hell they don’t have a system that would flag this kind of thing down, random people claiming hundreds of videos yet they’re somehow oblivious to it
There have been copyright troll attorneys that have gotten 14+ year sentences & this guy only got 5? Plus it's not like they're gonna take away all of his money. He's still gonna comeback to whatever mansion he bought, the cars, etc. just like "omi in a hellcat." I would argue this guy did just as much damage if not more than any copyright troll attorney.
We need strictor punishments and more work put in to stop scammers. Not to say the people working on this aren't working hard, they're doing amazing work, but we need more of them
I'm 2 months behind on rent, have $100 to my name, have medical bills for health issues that keep me from working, and yet I still am not doing this kind of shady shit. Fuck scammers man, it just makes it sting that much more.
@@JohnDoe-rh7vh Literally have no idea, recent cat scan, chest x-ray, blood tests, urine tests, EKG, and tests for mono/strep/COVID all have come up empty handed. Docs and I are at a loss. Chest pain that begins when I start working on physically demanding or cognitively challenging tasks and gets worse if I try pushing through it, persistent vertigo that'll randomly appear and last for hours, headaches, mental fogginess/confusion that randomly pops up, and a bad cough. I'll be contacting my grad school's (master's program, unpaid) student emergency fund, so there's at least possible help, but I'm unsure how much they can help. It is what it is.
It's really time youtube is found accountable for this. If it happens once, they can claim they weren't aware of the flaw but now that there are multiple offenders and it's become public knowledge they have no excuses, they are knowingly allowing the scams to happen.
This kind of stuff has been happening for around a decade now and little to nothing has ever been done. Even after all of the viral controversies they've had, little ever changes and what does change is usually for the worse.
This shit has been known to be a problem for a very, _very_ long time. I wish I could say it's a surprise that despite a decade's worth of backlash and evidence of abuse, RUclips has refused to do anything to fix it - but... it's _RUclips._
They DGAF after they take their cut, let the peasants squabble over the crumbs, its better than the recording industry getting hysterical because they might not get every penny from their own artists work
So instead of temporarily redirecting ad revenue to an intermediate state, then determining if the claim was real and then awarding said revenue to proper side upon finding that out... they just give it away to whoever randomly makes the claim? Who the hell thought that was a great idea, and fire whoever hired that person!
Get the fact checkers to verify people. That was a joke. Fake IDs, identity theft, database hacking, government oversight beaurocracy will make the whole thing a mess. It either proves their incompetence or gives them even more authority to access your information.
More people like him will just keep on milking RUclips's copyright system, and RUclips will continue to let it happen and do absolutely nothing about it.
I think you have such a following because of the way you speak. Creative, informative, sure of what you're talking about, etc. Just became a subscriber a few months ago but haven't missed a video since. THanks for all you do man
I'd happily go to jail for 5 years if I was offered that much money. Just give me books to read and maybe a few hours to walk in the jail garden so I can stay functional.
@@samuelfaille-denis8098we need a big law firm who's tech savvy to spearhead this lawsuit. This is completely insane. I wonder how many people are upset at the music creators for claiming AD revenue, when in reality it's some douche trying to move out of their parents basement.
So glad this happened!! This kinda stuff has happened to me as well while giving proper mention to the music I use as mentioned by the artist and some random company claims it ! Being a small content creator this hits without any way to fight it back !
I wonder how far can a person go it they reside in a country outside the jurisdiction of internet laws and just move the revenues to their local banks, this is insane
If someone paid me 23 million to go to a low security prision for 5 years id take it in a heartbeat. Ill literally never make that much in my life. 5 years and no large scale fines is a joke.
@@elitedavidhorne8494 just wait till you learn the rich don't have to give that info up and low security prisions have tons of Safety nets for them. This is north america, what do think we are savages who give the same treatment for the rich?
@@elitedavidhorne8494low security prisons don't have that problem you are talking about places like adx Florence super max where murders an rapest go for crimes like this you go to a prison you have a TV an a Xbox no rape
There's nothing more satisfying than watching these scumbags getting what they deserve! Scammers are some of the lowest of the low, especially the ones that prey on the vulnerable and weak.
Ill say the same thing I say about short sentencing for paedophilia. If the justice system cracks down on these kind of people, they'll be damaging their employer. It only makes sense to give minimal sentences to crimes which politicians and their buddies are expected to commit.
I doubt RUclips will do anything about this, this has been going on for more than a decade, to a lot of people. I had some of my music claimed back in 2012- 2013 by the same kind of fake society with "media" in the name. I don't even run adds on any of my stuff, but these assholes did. It stopped a few years later (they probably didn't make enough from it). But it shows that they're doing this on a large scale, and even on small creators, at least at the time, before the ad-pocalypse. I'm sure that they have programs that do it automatically.
Yeah, had the same at around 2011-2012 and it was kind of a big deal amongst music producers. There were topics about it on various forums. Fact that YT didn't look into it makes me wonder... Is it because they get a piece of the pie?
@@kenn_foxx5563 It might be. I mean, from their point of view, any ad is better than no ad at all. But OGs like us fondly remember the time when YT, and everything on the internet was free, and ad-free.
Well the way the judicial system works, as far as I think this went is that he actually made a plea deal and had a pretty badass lawyer backing him up. Ive seen these things happen all the time. People who should be getting some serious time dont because of that. Now his initial charge probaby was like 20 years, but a plea bargain and his lawyer talking to the district attorney could have made an agreement to just 5
Or just the fact that non-violent offenses aren't punished as harshly as offenses where the person threatens murder to get what they want. Five years is a pretty long time, and it is funny how any sentiments of rehabilitation and not doing over-harsh sentences go away as soon as the presenter was the one wronged.
An old con artist once said "it's more profitable to ask for forgiveness than permission for anything" but scammers gunna scam and stupid people gunna pay that's how it works
I'll point this out in a couple of replies; If you bother reading the sentencing, his gains were $6m, minus restitution with is starting at $1.45m but they're looking for more victims. And no, your time is precious, if 5 years is worth it you're wasting your life.
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Didn't they get caught selling a load of peoples data
@@wednesdeityevery company does. They’re good if you don’t use extensions or anything like that and just need a convenient browser but it’s not that great to run and customize outside of looks that I’ve seen in reviews. I don’t like it but I’m just so used to chrome and all it’s abilities
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@@Ohnoitswomp idk I remember them being in a controversy so surely it's a little more than every company does
Nintendo would've put this guy in prison for 50 lifetimes and demanded 50 million dollars from him.
Yeah copyright is no joke
I post the best videos on RUclips 🙏
yep sounds about right
understatement
@@Patrick-xk9sj why hello there troll
the fact he was able to do this just shows how horrible this platforms copyright system is
no kidding
good to see you here love the vids and music
It’s been dogshit forever
yeah youtube gotta do a entire factory reset and have actual people moderating. not just bots
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Considering that people can get 10 years in jail for possessing a little bit of drugs, then 5 years is not enough for the guy that stole 23 million.
500k per month 😅
It's just a bad argument. Having one dumb punishment doesn't excuse another
You gotta have a lot of dope to get 10 years
Imagine stealing 23 millions the old fashioned way, like a man in a real heist… you wouldn’t see the light of day again..
@@fusco301two (2) years ago, the Mississippi court of appeals upheld a life sentence for possession of 1.5 ounces of marijuana.
It's not that Jose and co. need harsher punishments, it's that RUclips itself needs to be held responsible for the fraud out of sheer negligence.
It's both. Jose got off WAAAAAAY too easy for that kind of money, and RUclips needs to get it's shit together, they aren't mutually exclusive
Exactly! It's sheer laziness to just allow whoTFever to claim a video and immediately start taking their revenue, without question or proof. I get that there's a law, but YT is enacting this in the most hands-off way possible and it only ever hurts innocent content creators.
@Chainmastress34did he also do this
Yeah I agree. RUclips needs to take some of the blame for this. It keeps happening under their watch and they are not doing anything about.. ya know why? It's probably because they are gonna have to hire actual people to work in the copyright department which means less revenue for investors. So they rely on algorithms cuz it's cheap. Obviously.
Yeah, nah. Both things can be true. It isn’t hard.
The fact that You Tube allows this to happen and people have been complaining about it for YEARS is absolutely egregious.
Poor small indie company!!
GET THAT PORNBOT BANNED
Those should have given em 25+ for every mill he stole then have every account frozen/deleted inc his social Media accounts
They don't allow this to happen, they encourage it and support the scammers
@@TrianglePantsNo chance it's gonna happen. That bot is programmed to redirect to somewhere else that isn't TOS breaking
If you stole $20 million from a bank, or embezzled it from some company, you'd never get out of jail.
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But if you steal it from artists and creators ah just a lil slap on the wrist
But if you steal it from artists and creators ah just a lil slap on the wrist
@@NeonBeeCatwe heard you the first time bro ☠️
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sell $23 of weed: prison for life. steal $23m in copyright claims: prison for 5 years
idk what country you are from but they stopped taking you to jail for weed back in 2008
Law is broken in every aspect
Name one place in USA where this is still practice
this is america
its really fucking sad isn't it
weed is harmless, yet lives are literally being ended because of it (prison)
while stealing literally millions of dollars is just a 5 year sentence
very fair indeed
@@imtoxicAFhe lives in the U.S
Since RUclips is facilitating these kinds of scams they should be held accountable as well.
Lol the head of google wants to have a word with you, can you just stare out into this sunset for us please 😂
If we don’t hear from you we know what happened youtube ceo really need to re evaluate there stance on things like this
Protecting scammers with lazy systems
It always becomes an unusually sad and heavy court case when the victims are somehow complicit in facilitating their own theft. You can not get away with doing nothing to stop the thieves when they are not even armed to hurt you!
5 years means he's serving a day for each 12600 dollars that he's stolen. When's the last time you stole twelve thousand dollars and got a day of punishment for it?
Unbelievable for us poors, right? But laws are designed to be slipped by the wealthy. Hell, remember that story about how Elon stole emeralds worth tens of thousands from his dad as a kid? Just normal things for these kinds of people - it’s like stealing a toothbrush to them.
Bro, I'm WILLINGLY going that 70 months if it means I walk away with 23 million clams. That is an EASY price to pay. I'm about to know every inmate by name and have secret handshakes with like a third of em.
@@luislatinoman7055literally
@@luislatinoman7055there would be fines as well, I'm sure he's not walking away with the 23 mil that easy 😂
He needs to pay it back.
Also, if you contest the copyright claim, the "company" who claimed it gets to decide whether or not it was a false claim, which they never do of course. Can't believe youtube still doesn't recognize this as a major oversight in their platform.
For real
I post the best videos on RUclips 🙏
It’s insane. We had an old song get claimed by someone because 2 seconds of it sounded like a couple notes from their own song _that was uploaded several years after ours_ 😂 Fortunately it was one we hadn’t cared about for years & it’s not like we ever got big views, so it didn’t matter much.
We did try to contest it at the time for the hell of it though, and exactly what you said happens...is what happened.
“Oh well whatever” & all, but when it happens to a relatively popular artist/band/creator I can only imagine how frustrating it is
Oh they definitely know but either don't care or think they need to keep it this way to avoid getting into hot water with other companies and the law.
It’s a mystery how RUclips maintains safe harbor despite not doing anything to stop copyright fraud
As a person who got scammed out of $2,000, it really warms my heart to see someone face justice for their crimes
Absolutely ditto
@@input00nah
Those damn Nigerian Princes.
@@JediSimpson actually it wasn't that. It was something completely different
As a person...
I'd take a 5 year timeout for 23M in a heartbeat holy shit. The court may as well be begging for it to happen again.
Don’t make me get the fly swatter
then start copyright claiming
You’re a bum 😂
Right!
I would trade that right now!
Five years in jail is NOTHING
Same the only thing is the restitution if they make him pay a certain amount and that's the only thing that could suck cuz if u don't pay u go to jail again and again like child support but out of 23 million I know he still has alot somewhere and they probably only charged him less than 3 or 4 million restitution when he gets out unless he made a deal and gave them a couple million when he got prosecuted
Can't believe RUclips let one of their accomplices go to jail. Truly there's no honor among thieves.
Yea this guy scammed, but RUclips didn’t notice this for 5 years? This is RUclips’s fault more than anything
GET THAT PORNBOT BANNED
RUclips is the primary profiteer as they get a percentage regardless of who wins the claim. This is clear selective enforcement. If the DA hasnt prosecuted anyone else (namely youtube), they are selectively choosing who and when to prosecute which is unenforceable. This guy needs to appeal. The entire judicial system is illegitimate.
@@Bfkcjscbsnjcmoist hypocritical
For 5 years, he made 90k a week. He'd probably go in thinking it was worth it. The only bigger scam than his scam was the prison sentence.
You do understand he'll have to pay restitution, right?
@@Arancil We will see how much he has to pay back lmao i will make a guess right now.. Stolen 23mil he has to pay 15mil So still easy 8 mil
@@FireGodSpeed Wrong.
"Teran personally obtained more than $6 million in personal profit, which he used to sustain a lavish lifestyle. "
"The government requests that the Court set a restitution hearing to determine an appropriate restitution amount. The PSR set restitution in the amount of $1,464,717.90. (PSR at 24-25). The government is actively working to obtain information from other victims, which is a substantial undertaking because the majority of victims reside outside of the United States. The government has recently expanded its notification efforts to include Spanish-language notifications and is further widening its public outreach. A future restitution hearing would afford sufficient time for additional victims involved in this case to come forward. "
I'll happily take 5 years for 20 mill
@@Arancil It's highly likely that it will be way much less than 23 million after the 5 year sentence.
RUclips needs to add an option where you can fight a claim due to lack of standing or fraud. It is so archaic that the CLAIMER gets to decided whether to drop the claim, which they absolutely never do. I talked to a RUclips rep about this once and the only real advice they gave was "seek legal counsel". So for small creators like me, we are basically screwed.
These dumb rules are probs older than some of youtubes reps at this point lmao. Data analysis has come so far since the days of ray william johnson and =3, when these rules were necessary. They just don’t care because they think these rules don’t hurt youtube, just creators
Yeah all people want is literally a place where they can provide evidence when a claim is based on nothing lol is that so much to ask for
GRT THAT PORNBOT BANNED
Well, if you are a smaller creator then you could always take RUclips to small claims court. It doesn't cost much and usually lawyers aren't allowed. It's basically like Judge Judy. If RUclips doesn't send someone to show up then you automatically win.
Soooo true ishowspeeed copystrikes any video that just says his name doing pretty much the same thing I guess that why his name wasn’t brought up in the video cuz ishowspeed and his team probably will copystrike me for saying his name in the comments smh
5 years for $23 million without having to give it back? Out on good behavior in like 2-3 years? Worth it
I still do not encourage or endorse committing any sort of grand larceny or theft on the internet just because you know there is a light sentence for stealing music money from other users. 5 years and 10 months in prison will feel even longer when you actually experience that prison time for yourself. I wish I knew enough about RUclips to know how false copyright strikes will eventually harm the bottom line of the higher-ups, and not just the bottom line of individual users.
@@adampkalb They don't actually. RUclips themselves take a portion of advertising revenue from each video. The part you steal with false copyright is the creators portion, completely separate from RUclips's portion, so it cost them nothing so they aren't in a rush to fix it.
As a musician I cannot tell you how frustrating it is how easily some random person can just claim your music. There are processes you have to go through to get the copy right back to it's original owner, but it's so much hassle when the original person that stole it basically just said "yeah that's mine."
I'm in a similar boat. Are there any prophylactic measures small artists can take to stop their music from being claimed by others? Does having everything on Spotify or registered with ASCAP
@derekalexandersmith definitely with your P.R.O. it might be a slow process to get your rights back. But at least with registering your tracks with ASCAP, BMI, etc. You already have the intial rights. So ultimately youll have a strong case.
Look here, Jay z was going to buy his child a new 120 inch plasma screen television, now thanks to these pirates he can only afford the 100 inch plasma screen.
Still think piracy is cool?
i think i saw someone say you can copyright yourself to avoid getting scammed is that possible or no
@@derekalexandersmith You can create another account and copyright strike your own songs so you still get all the revenue, youtube doesn't care about the copyright system enough to stop you, they don't even stop others from copyright striking other people's videos unrighteously.
Bro got off so easy these people are the worst
Hopefully he drops the soap in prison
bro its fucking internet ads 1 week would be too much
Sad part of reality he should be deemed 30-50 years
Taking most of his life away as he deserves just as much as scammers these days
I’d go hang out in a non maxamum prison for 5 years for 23 mil
I imagine there's a lot of people who would be willing to go to jail for 5 years for $23 million dollars. He really is getting off easy.
I’d do it in a heart beat
He's obviously not keeping the money
@@patrikgajcevic8123that’s if he hasn’t spent it or offshored it or something. Even if he has to pay it back over time with interest, if he withdraws it and invests it, he’ll still make money.
@@patrikgajcevic8123 that is not that obvious in cases like this, do you have a source for this?
@patrikgajcevic8123 how? Ask me for your money back. See how "I don't have it", "I already spend it". What you gonna do? I'm already going to jail 🙃
This really high-lights how batshit inane RUclipss approach to copyright is. “Hey that’s mine” seems to be all it takes. Their only concern seems to be removing themselves from any liability at the expense of their own content creators.
If only all scammers can get arrested like this.
What the hell is with the spams-
Penguinz0 ispires me.. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally beggin
I think these bots should be arrested because they’re scamming people for attention
Say goodbye to the entire population of the Middle East
Jake Paul needs to be locked up first.
The worst part is that if they hadn't been quite so egregiously greedy, if they just cut and ran at 6 or 7 mil, shut it down and walked away, they probably would have zero repercussions.
Have to wonder how many did just that
@@ClassicPopble We're better off not knowing.
They still have zero repercussions, 5 years, (2 1/5 years at least with good behavior) on top of a small fine that he can easily pay off with the money he made. He didn't suffer anything but a couple years with nothing else
@@justanotherviewer9643how?
Sooo true probably will only have to spend 2 and a half years away at most and gets over 20m I would do that trade away without even thinking twice
Here we go again with another scammer going to jail. Always love the entertainment and justice being served.
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Dont let me see you in these comments again🙅♂️🙅♂️ I will spread yo cheeks lil bro😈😈🙏🙏
Literally all these replies are bots
Penguinz0 ispires me.. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally beggin
Penguinz0 ispires me.. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally beggin
Class action against yt for negligence? Haven't they done nothing to stop this for years and years? Feels like they're helping the scammers
5 years feels WAY too lucky, bro deserved at least 10 or more. He dosent deserve the luck. There’s literally people who get more then 5 years for stupid things while this dude gets 5. Absolutely infuriating.
>sells weed gets 20 to life.
>Steals 23 million and commits large scale fraud, gets 5 years in low security prison.
I would spend 5 years in prison for 23 million bro
@@rainbowcthulhu6299Even in some countries, corrupting a billion $ worth of funds can only sentenced for 2-3 years
@@rainbowcthulhu6299real
@@grants.231me too man, they should have just taken all the money back and give him 5 to 10 years
Let's be real here...5 years (actually probably like, at most, with good behavior, 2-1/2 years) with a 1.4M dollar fine for 23M dollars revenue? This guy didn’t get a punishment, he got a weak slap on the wrist.
No parole in the federal system.
Yeah I gotta be honest, if you told me I could have $23m at the tradeoff of spending only 5 years in prison you can sign me right the fuck up
@@brvcifer exactly
@@jasonmartinez9545you don't keep the money man
Idk man. People all over the video are commenting on the "weak" sentence that he got. But he got 2 years. 2 years is probably enough for rehabilitation. The guy didn't commit any murder. And I am quite sure all his stolen money will be seized. Getting even 2 years of jail time will also hinder the guy's ability to get employment, so yes, there is a permanent punishment he will be facing for the rest of his life
The important question is whether the $20 million were seized from the scammers or not. 5 years is getting off easy and last thing you'd want is for them to still have even a cent of that money when they return.
If other comments are to be believed, he was ordered to retun $1.4M of it. So basically nothing. I'd spend 5 years in prison for $20M every single day. It's basically like having a job that pays $4M a year.
now that the government knows he got that much they will want a huge piece of that. he probably paid the government so he only got 5 years
@Lightn0x the date for the restitution hearing hasn’t been set yet. They mentioned $1.4 million in the article but they are still looking for other victims. The final amount won’t be decided until the restitution hearing is complete. That article also said that the $23 million that was scammed was split between at least 5 other co conspirators
@@Lightn0xll his money was seized. Only 1.4 million of it was returned to the victims because of logistics. It would be dumb if he was allowed to keep all that money when they knew how much was stolen
All you have to do as scammer is to gift that money to family or invest it outside of country you live, preferably in country with no extradition laws like Argentina and you will never have to return anything. I don't think there was single person in history of USA to actually pay what court ordered. It's almost always settled outside courtroom at much much lower sum as most scammers will have very little if any money that can be connected to them. I worked in European IRS for years then as accountant, trust me they will not pay anything, they will return to same scam in matter of days, we even got some people continue to do scamms from within prisons by proxies... It's YT that needs to change it's policy or nothing will change
If he doesn't lose the money from the scam then 5 years really is lenient.
If you rob a bank and get caught you dont just get to keep the money after your jail time is over lmao
Probably used that money for hiring the best lawyers. Maybe losing 5 years of your life, but after that retired with millions lol
@@Datodahe was only ordered to pay 1.4 million in restitution
@@dakotareid1566Sooo he still has 21.6M? In exchange for 5 years of his life? So more then 4M a year, bro just got a very well-paying job at this point.
Lmao only 5 years of prison and you keep 20m. If anything this sounds like a great paying job.
I would say this Scammer got its Payback
Yo, it's Pierogi! Didn't know you watched Charlie!
I was confused on how you haven’t gotten many likes, then I saw, 45 mins ago
Boss haha. Scammers are losers haha
yo P, didn’t expect u here. love what u do, and keep up the work “deleting there files” 🫡
crikey, its the scambaitian rozzers
RUclips should be sued for being complacent in royalty fraud and for allowing this to continue blatantly
RUclips is complicit in an astronomical amount of illegal activity, and they tacitly encourage it. The problem is they have essentially unlimited money from Google which means huge law teams that no one wants to go up against.
Legally speaking what youtube does is the safest route. They involve themselves as little as possible so in case something goes wrong the 2 parties are supposed to duke it out in court and not be able to involve youtube. On the other hand if youtube reviewed the claims then they would be an active participant, meaning every time a fake claim comes up they would be included in the lawsuits.
@Select2Play at this point there has been so many false claims there is no possible way that youtube hasn't reviewed at least 1 of them they should be held accountable for their blatant complacency to what is very obviously happening and has been happening under their noses for over a decade now. They cannot hide behind the bs "We didn't see it happen" argument at this point especially when so many prominent youtubers have either called them out for allowing it or flamed them on Twitter about it
@@ProfSplendorFactionespcially when youtubes team is more than aware of false copyrights in the music industry. They should be held accountable for being bad at their jobs
You're assuming that the legal system treats individuals as being on an equal footing with corporations. It does not - corporations have far more rights and weight than individuals do. Welcome to America.
The law should consider crimes like these as Grand Larceny. It is the same thing as stealing 23 million dollars from a bank. Give him a life sentence please
Wow. That is very sad and pathetic how RUclips's community guidelines and rules against false copyright claims and false copyright strikes, do not value the security of their users like a real bank. They do not take cheaters of the copyright system seriously enough to de-incentivize these offenses from happening again simply because they think they are big enough to recover from this. RUclips wrongfully assumes that no grand larceny will be grand enough to shut them down forever, not even shut them down for a short week.
I would trade 5 years for 23 million in a heartbeat. He definitely got off easy.
It always makes me warm in my heart to see a scammer suffer in their own karma. Thank you for this Charlie.
These fucking bots are insane.
@@input00omg yay I won't subscribe
@@lou06757don’t care
Penguinz0 ispires me.. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally beggin
@PodpolkovnikGeorgeCostanza there are many ways to help yourself, scamming is one of the most scum options and it just builds a reputation youll regret to live by. Its something that you do and can very unlikely go back on, bless their souls
I hate that RUclips isn't doing enough work to prevent this type of bullshittery this dude should of gotten at least 15 to 20 years
Right? I see so many scams and scam ads, and yet they put more time into fucking over honest content creators than protecting users from actual villains.
It's because they couldn't. If they do, they would loose a prevision that makes them unresponsible for the content they host. It's just the law.
@@Max128ping
How does preventing and verifying false copyright have anything to do with law?
Bruh. They don't even bother trying to fix the bot problem on here, you think they give enough of a shit to deal with something actually legally dubious?
LET'S LEAVE THEN
FFS
One of the things I find to be super irritating is when you pay to license sound packs in perpetuity and mix some audio for a video from it, and then some a**hole copyrights your video because they licensed the same audio pack and used it for some song they made. It’s just so irritating that RUclips allows this to happen. I’m glad this guy got fried for it, but it need to happen more. There’s a ton of this bullsh!t going around. It’s infuriating.
5:58 wow it's almost like it's RUclips's fault for allowing this type of shit to have even occurred. Maybe every single person who approved his royalties or whatever should get 5 years in jail too.
Can we agree that this isn't about protecting artists or users, but about the money record companies could have stolen from creators, getting stolen from them?
Initially it was made easy to calm the companies down on how easy it would be for them to copyright claim their content on the platform. But like any goodwill based systems its only a matter of time before people realize the possible exploits.
Look no further than piracy in the early 2000s. The eagle will always go infinity and beyond to protect the music industry corporations.
Charlies bringing up an insanely good point. RUclips is a great website, but has so much loopholes for people to exploit from actual creators.
I dunno what people expect from the company that's been actively helping kiddy fiddler rings get around and share money/tips/data
They've been very much against the "common man" for a long time. If you ain't got high up connections that are out there diddling little ones, Google is not your friend, you are their prey
Imagine working your whole life on your craft to finally be able to share it on the internet and then someone takes all the money from the hard work you put in
Imagine if he stole that money from a bank, he would have way longer sentence. But justice system seems to think its not a big deal when it comes to this situation
The real issue here is that there are almost always no repercussions for issuing fake claims or takedowns, from youtube or the law, unless they are really brazen about it.
that's just in general, false accusations that coukd ruin someone's life never have repercussions
My theory for why financial crimes get such light sentences is because then it sets a precident that benifits certain groups of people. Like politicians.
Between the copyright claim scammers, the copyright claim abuses by legit publishers, and the outright wrong copyright claims being asserted by RUclips, I hope that there is eventually a class action lawsuit against RUclips for their accommodation and facilitation of all of it. In an age where AI can identify and discern and analyze and report, it is ridiculous how all of these scams and abuses are possible at all, which has gotta make you wonder how much YT profits from allowing it all.
@YouCouldBeHere you're right but why LGBT specifically?
@YouCouldBeHere yeah literally any idiot reporting you, or if you write *swear word* YOU, or YOU *swear word* it will auto delete comment if you post and then likely give a 24 hour mute, it's fucking pathetic and if you just swear too much in general. i swear alot and it's CONSTANTLY giving me the "R U SURE U WANNA POST THIS ITS SOOOO MEAN!!!!!!:(" bullshit popups, where if you click anyways it INSTA auto deletes/doesn't even post, and after a few times in a single day it triggers a mute... it's a joke now
RUclips needs to be banned from using AI and automation for copyright stuff. Like straight up
And be forced to hire the appropriate HUMAN manpower to compensate.
Let's see how much this shit dies overnight after that happens.
False copyright claims in general are so fustrating, especially since there isn't much you can do about it
You can organize an exodus...
Honestly it’s a shame how low brow some sentences are for financial crimes in the United States. It seems like even a grand larceny charge (stealing more than 10,000$ in stuff) often gets people more time than more white collar esque crimes like embezzlement etc.
Filling a false DMCA claim is Perjury and that carries a max sentence of 5 years.
Welcome to America where the rich get off easy and the poor are scrutinized for every little thing they do and eventually end up in jail as slaves.
He did it on 50 thousand songs though? Why only 5 years
grand larceny charges are NOT 10k, it's like a few hundred/thousand... i got hit with grand larceny over like $800 that i didn't even take(the fuckin kid blacked out drunk and put it in his glove box and literally was dropping 100s on the ground and lost soooo much money and then him and his mom were mad so called the cops and said we stole it, which is why it ended up getting dropped) so it's ABSOLUTELY not 10,000.
RUclips seriously needs to have a penalty system against content ID/copyright abusers. Like the community strike system, there needs to be consequences to remove abusers and make it harder for these people to profit off this abuse to this level.
“The only lives that truly matter are those who respect the lives of others”.
rofl no just no
I love how they say it's a hefty sentence but if if he stole the same amount from a bank or company he would have gone into the slammer for 10 to 15 years
Robbery does not apply here.
There is a difference
@@carltonthepughe’s scamming, it’s theft lol
if he had drugs he would've been in for life
@@imb34r To be fair copyright claims are not violent or traumatizing.
@@carltonthepug Scamming by STEALING the copyright claim is still robbery, kid.
The system designed to prevent intellectual property theft is essentially a thieve's toolkit for automated theft on a grand scale.
Well done, youtube!
The biggest take away is just how broken RUclips copyright system still is even after over a decade.
I remember when PewDiePie just mentioned Despacito in a video title, didn't even play the song (half attempted a couple chords on a guitar) and the video was claimed 27 times for a song _that wasn't played in the video._
So 27 people, individuals or parasitic legal firms, claimed the video saying they represented the copyright holder, and RUclips said 'oh, yeah, seems legit'.
Ratio😂😂😂
Nice Graf pfp
Jim Sterling had this problem for so long, they usually only take money from Patreon and leave all the youtube video completely ads free, people would false claim the videos and put ads on it, so they decided to copy right claim the videos first and deny all the ads to be placed on the videos
@@-dash. how did they copy right claim their own videos?
alt accounts probably
0:02 Bottom left corner dog wakes up
This isn't going to change until a big company get crippled by this... but usually are those same companies that abuse it so...
It baffles me to no end how a human being can do something so absolutely vile to ANOTHER human being without being remorseful enough to think twice. the world we currently live in is absurd
Heartless criminals like this have always existed. The only thing the modern world changed about the situation is by giving them a wider variety of mechanisms to commit their crimes.
The government has been doing it regular citizens since the invention of the government
You think this is something new? People were far worse to each other back then and even up until recently
@@chadhinkley7532 I dont think its something new, I think its just ridiculous its still considered human nature to be enemies of your own kind
What im trying to say is, something clearly needs to change. Unfortunately, as one individual person among the millions of people, im unable to do anything. Im just expressing my concerns for the world we live in
They should be taking youtube to court for allowing this scam to go on
The keyword is abedding crime. And how youtube handles things and even encourage that constitute that.
@@Mi_Fa_Volareit’s amazing how safe harbor isn’t revoked by this alone, the IRS had to catch these people, google and youtube would have let this happen forever with their hands off approach.
it’s not like youtube doesn’t know, there’s no way in hell they don’t have a system that would flag this kind of thing down, random people claiming hundreds of videos yet they’re somehow oblivious to it
There have been copyright troll attorneys that have gotten 14+ year sentences & this guy only got 5? Plus it's not like they're gonna take away all of his money. He's still gonna comeback to whatever mansion he bought, the cars, etc. just like "omi in a hellcat." I would argue this guy did just as much damage if not more than any copyright troll attorney.
To turn a blessing into a curse is one of the worst crimes imaginable
We need strictor punishments and more work put in to stop scammers. Not to say the people working on this aren't working hard, they're doing amazing work, but we need more of them
I am ver sure jose is going to get shived in prison before doing his 5 years times
I needed to be told to smile today, thank you Charlie!
I love Charlie's ability to make me care about things I didn't even know existed
I'm 2 months behind on rent, have $100 to my name, have medical bills for health issues that keep me from working, and yet I still am not doing this kind of shady shit. Fuck scammers man, it just makes it sting that much more.
What kinda medical complications
@@JohnDoe-rh7vh Literally have no idea, recent cat scan, chest x-ray, blood tests, urine tests, EKG, and tests for mono/strep/COVID all have come up empty handed. Docs and I are at a loss. Chest pain that begins when I start working on physically demanding or cognitively challenging tasks and gets worse if I try pushing through it, persistent vertigo that'll randomly appear and last for hours, headaches, mental fogginess/confusion that randomly pops up, and a bad cough. I'll be contacting my grad school's (master's program, unpaid) student emergency fund, so there's at least possible help, but I'm unsure how much they can help. It is what it is.
It's really time youtube is found accountable for this. If it happens once, they can claim they weren't aware of the flaw but now that there are multiple offenders and it's become public knowledge they have no excuses, they are knowingly allowing the scams to happen.
The ad revenue should be held in limbo until the matter is settled. The scam would die immediately.
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This kind of stuff has been happening for around a decade now and little to nothing has ever been done. Even after all of the viral controversies they've had, little ever changes and what does change is usually for the worse.
This shit has been known to be a problem for a very, _very_ long time. I wish I could say it's a surprise that despite a decade's worth of backlash and evidence of abuse, RUclips has refused to do anything to fix it - but... it's _RUclips._
They DGAF after they take their cut, let the peasants squabble over the crumbs, its better than the recording industry getting hysterical because they might not get every penny from their own artists work
not often you see actual punishment happen in incidents like this, puts a smile on my face to see it happen.
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Don't you do this too? 😮
GET THOSE BOTTERS BANNED
Dang four bots in one
So instead of temporarily redirecting ad revenue to an intermediate state, then determining if the claim was real and then awarding said revenue to proper side upon finding that out... they just give it away to whoever randomly makes the claim?
Who the hell thought that was a great idea, and fire whoever hired that person!
Get the fact checkers to verify people.
That was a joke.
Fake IDs, identity theft, database hacking, government oversight beaurocracy will make the whole thing a mess.
It either proves their incompetence or gives them even more authority to access your information.
More people like him will just keep on milking RUclips's copyright system, and RUclips will continue to let it happen and do absolutely nothing about it.
As soon as Charlie said to smile I couldn't help but to smile. Thank you Charlie you made my day
I think you have such a following because of the way you speak. Creative, informative, sure of what you're talking about, etc. Just became a subscriber a few months ago but haven't missed a video since. THanks for all you do man
I'd happily go to jail for 5 years if I was offered that much money. Just give me books to read and maybe a few hours to walk in the jail garden so I can stay functional.
This feels like this has been going on for a decade it seems. Will RUclips ever fix their DMCA system?
no
as far as youtube is concerned their system works perfectly; they don't get taken to court over it
@@samuelfaille-denis8098we need a big law firm who's tech savvy to spearhead this lawsuit. This is completely insane. I wonder how many people are upset at the music creators for claiming AD revenue, when in reality it's some douche trying to move out of their parents basement.
Controversial opinion: I think we need more people to take advantage of the copyright system so RUclips can actually put effort into fixing it.
Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
It doesn't because they know already and they just don't care
I do wonder how many people will see a video like this & decide to do it themselves for some easy doubloons 🤔
@@CantTellYou🤭🤭
@@CantTellYou probably some yea it's stupid but it won't stop till RUclips starts to care for real.
So glad this happened!! This kinda stuff has happened to me as well while giving proper mention to the music I use as mentioned by the artist and some random company claims it !
Being a small content creator this hits without any way to fight it back !
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@@input00Bet we won't
Thanks for the roadmap charlie
I'm less concerned with the amount of time and more concerned with whether or not he is allowed to keep the money he stole...
That's great to hear! Those scumbags need justice.
@KUKLUXTROLLKLAN2023 bot acc.
@@defectumdefectum9642ratio 🤓
I post the best videos on RUclips 🙏
Only 5 years you consider justice?!
It's rare when a youtuber gets actual consequences.
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Penguinz0 ispires me.. My parents said if I get 15k followers They'd buy me a better camera for recording..begging u guys, literally beggin
how did you get 22 likes yet all your replies are bots. Kinda wierd
Honestly, this just shows the huge problem with RUclips’s policy & system. It should not be that _severely_ easy to abuse, esp with money involved.
I wonder how far can a person go it they reside in a country outside the jurisdiction of internet laws and just move the revenues to their local banks, this is insane
If someone paid me 23 million to go to a low security prision for 5 years id take it in a heartbeat.
Ill literally never make that much in my life. 5 years and no large scale fines is a joke.
You aren't going to be able to keep the money 😂
Raped and beaten for five years. Once the other inmates find out how much money you made you will be exploited.
@@elitedavidhorne8494 just wait till you learn the rich don't have to give that info up and low security prisions have tons of Safety nets for them. This is north america, what do think we are savages who give the same treatment for the rich?
@@elitedavidhorne8494low security prisons don't have that problem you are talking about places like adx Florence super max where murders an rapest go for crimes like this you go to a prison you have a TV an a Xbox no rape
@@Humongous420he was only ordered to pay 1.4 million tho
As happy I am that he got caught, this can’t be real justice I would happily spend 5 years in jail if it meant I got away with 23 million
Your accounts get frozen.
You don’t keep that money.
@@funkgab2013 if he has sent that money elsewhere prior to getting caught they can’t do shit about it
Only 5 years?🤦🏿♂️He definitely doesn't have regrets
The world could definitely use some more smile checkpoints. Thanks, Charles :)
There's nothing more satisfying than watching these scumbags getting what they deserve! Scammers are some of the lowest of the low, especially the ones that prey on the vulnerable and weak.
Ill say the same thing I say about short sentencing for paedophilia.
If the justice system cracks down on these kind of people, they'll be damaging their employer.
It only makes sense to give minimal sentences to crimes which politicians and their buddies are expected to commit.
RUclips should be held accountable too 🤷♂️
I'd take 23 million in exchange for 5 years in prison in a heartbeat, I reckon I could get out in half that for good behaviour too.
I doubt RUclips will do anything about this, this has been going on for more than a decade, to a lot of people. I had some of my music claimed back in 2012- 2013 by the same kind of fake society with "media" in the name. I don't even run adds on any of my stuff, but these assholes did. It stopped a few years later (they probably didn't make enough from it). But it shows that they're doing this on a large scale, and even on small creators, at least at the time, before the ad-pocalypse. I'm sure that they have programs that do it automatically.
Yeah, had the same at around 2011-2012 and it was kind of a big deal amongst music producers. There were topics about it on various forums.
Fact that YT didn't look into it makes me wonder... Is it because they get a piece of the pie?
@@kenn_foxx5563 It might be. I mean, from their point of view, any ad is better than no ad at all.
But OGs like us fondly remember the time when YT, and everything on the internet was free, and ad-free.
He definitely deserves it, he could literally be set up for life with the ten million but nah he was avaricious
He is still set for life bro. He spends 5 years in the slammer then he comes out a multi-millionaire. This sentence is nothing...
@@Lightn0x wait he keeps the money?💀
23 million for 5 years of my life? I've been doing this whole thing wrong apparently. Been working WAY longer than that for WAY- WAAAY less.
It’s nice to know that SOME people get their comeuppance for their actions
Well the way the judicial system works, as far as I think this went is that he actually made a plea deal and had a pretty badass lawyer backing him up. Ive seen these things happen all the time. People who should be getting some serious time dont because of that. Now his initial charge probaby was like 20 years, but a plea bargain and his lawyer talking to the district attorney could have made an agreement to just 5
Or just the fact that non-violent offenses aren't punished as harshly as offenses where the person threatens murder to get what they want. Five years is a pretty long time, and it is funny how any sentiments of rehabilitation and not doing over-harsh sentences go away as soon as the presenter was the one wronged.
An old con artist once said "it's more profitable to ask for forgiveness than permission for anything" but scammers gunna scam and stupid people gunna pay that's how it works
Can't even use Twitch in OperaGX , while mostly a streamer is being sponsored by it ... Charlie .. bruh wtf
I'm just amazed how he thought he would get away with it
he did for 5 years and only got caught because he made the IRS get suspicious
@@burp2019 it took that long for them to catch on?
@@neezduts69420 did you actually watch the video? he'd still be doing it if the IRS hadn't begun investigating him
I would totally spend 5 years in prison for 23 million dollars, it's not even a punishment
If they don't take the money away it's so worth. Also would probably be in a lower security prison.
Imma say it, 5 years for 23 mil is worth it.
I'll point this out in a couple of replies; If you bother reading the sentencing, his gains were $6m, minus restitution with is starting at $1.45m but they're looking for more victims.
And no, your time is precious, if 5 years is worth it you're wasting your life.
I hope the affected artists are encouraged by the US govt to press their own charges against Tenra & Bautista
Thanks for the happy checkpoint, Charlie!
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You're telling me this man got a lifetime amount of money and only got 5 years almost sounds worth it
He may need to repay that money to the rightful owners of the songs.
These kinds of slaps on the wrist are just barriers of entry. It's like the tiny fines for profitable crimes
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that all gets frozen/seized. He doesn't get to keep it and have it back when he gets out of prison.
@maxbracegirdle9990 woops I meant if you get caught you just loose it and do 5 but if you get away you can retire early.
Its pyro, he scammed all of us
Damn that breedable lesbian.
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Only 5 years? Damn bruh, thats basically vehicular manslaughter. And shoplifters have gotten more time than that.