@@Heretowatchvideos123Tumblr? it's chill compared to before but I haven't seen people talking about that site with their algorithm and Instagram is in between with theirs.
This year is basically a contest for who can fumble the bag the most between twitter, reddit, and twitch. The fact these companies can still be at the top despite throwing is insane.
Not really, it's easy to understand, simply because of lack of proper competition Even if you don't like it, you are still forced to use it because of its popularity and sway
You forgot RUclips as well. Their demonetizing spree has ruined and pissed off a lot of content creators. Probably not as bad as the rest but everyone seems to be getting in on the fail train.
@@Gamespud94That isn't really throwing, though. The viewers aren't effected, small creators aren't noticed, and big creators do RUclips as a job so they probably won't leave. While it's bad, it doesn't really impact people in charge of the site in any major way.
This is a huge problem for the National Weather Service Twitter. They litterally sometimes put out more than 6000 watches and warnings. He is limiting the ability for people to get (moist)critical info about bad and dangerous weather situations
@burp2019 when it comes to emergency services, any little bit helps. It's why a lot of emergency broadcasts have social media channels on nearly every big site. To catch anyone that just happens to be scrolling.
APIs were supposed to be the solution to the data scraping problem: by reducing server load. The problem is that Elon raised API prices FAR above the cost to provide the service: so people are falling back to old-fashioned scraping methods. I heard that Twitter broke a web hosting contract with Google on June 30th. THAT is why they are rate-limiting so aggressively.
I'm a web dev and i was gonna go on another rant about twitter, but it feels like beating a dead bird at this point. You don't even need to try that hard to scrape. When twitter loads a web page it tells your browser to make an api request that has all the data for the page (as opposed to server side rendering which just gives you the page with the data). So if you want to search for something and scrape the results, you can just get everything in a clean json that's always formatted the same with the same request as easy as the api. So elon is basically saying "stop scraping data" and at the same time it's super easy to scrape data. These feel like problems I would be dealing with if I had a website blow up, not a multi billion dollar corporation. Oh wait he fired everyone.
You’ve obviously never used RUclips for anything other than entertainment. The amount of sneaky shadow bans I’ve been hit with is nothing short of criminal. Meanwhile the dangerous agenda they deem as acceptable flys by unchallenged…
Sucks for people who use it as part of their job or business, or who want to keep up with big current events, or disaster warnings and response. If this system had been in place during the Turkiye earthquake thousands more people would have died. It also sucks for the Blue paypigs because it severely limits the forced audience they spent money for.
@@Js-eq7yd Power users is not meant as a degrading term, which is why Charlie explicitly mentioned them as separate from "actual hard addicts". There are people whose lives and jobs are wholly dependent on Twitter's existence and free usability.
the best part of this is that twitter refused to pay google for their cloud services yesterday, meaning that the reason behind the rate limit is because they didn't have time to move all of their storage somewhere else before their deal expired lol
Another twitter addict pretending they are somehow morally correct and objectively superior about something they literally have no clue about because they don't like the fact they can't suckle on twitter's teat all day for a little bit. 5
It doesn't matter if it's temporary because now we all know he's willing to do something this radical and stupid. Any business that continues to depend on this as a serious part of their future is asking for trouble. Any community that is trying to build something inside the walls of Twitter is done. I mean even if he didn't impose this limit, the very fact that he limited the ability for non-accounts to read a solitary link to tweet would be a huge scandal in and of its own right
right because people in the past have had great success posting on sites like facebook that is filled with bots and only used by boomers, or youtube and old twitter where one political side was censored to oblivion. "Twitter is dying!" say people who dislike twitter
What is with this reaction? Do you seriously not get how fucking bad data scraping is? If we had an action that would inconvenience the average person but could immediately stop climate change while we find a more workable solution wouldn't you think that's a good idea?
The limits and restrictions on logging in is really bad for emergency situations. During the bushfires in australia the alerts were going through twitter on what areas had to be evacuated immediately and whether you needed an evac plan if you were close to a fire
As for the "twitter is the only platform that could pull off [required login for viewing content]" part - I'm pretty sure Pinterest and Instagram have always done something like that.
Yeah, those three have as long as I can remember, required you to log in after a couple of minutes/posts viewed on their site. So this new login change honestly isn’t much different from what existed earlier on Twitter. Then you could see about 3 posts before being forced to log in.
Considering that most people refuse to buy blue checks he is going to kill the platform. I would love to see how he explains this to his remaining advertisers that are going to lose a ton of potential views.
@@PepsiMagt I have to assume that he is a Douglas Adams fan lol. He was already doing that stuff before, paying several billions over valuation was truly bizarre!
I cannot think of anything more self-sabotaging than keeping social media users from seeing posts. Think about it, this includes advertising, and you're keeping users from seeing and clicking on those ads. That's Twitter's main revenue source and crippling it even temporarily will seriously impact their revenue.
@@charliepremostudios8869 Netflix gets most of their money from subscriptions, not advertisements. Twitter on the other hand has very few incentives to want to be subscribed, and doesn't make enough from it's subscribers to cover costs.
@@danielfernandez3511if you just leave Netflix on, it kills their bandwidth. It's costly. Hence, they ask if you're still watching. Twitter is doing similar. They'll adjust the post count to figure out what works. But Netflix does the same thing.
Instagram does the same damn thing. Been doing it for years. I don't have an insta so anytime I try to see something, I get about 10 seconds before being asked to login
I love that all these big tech companies are downright competing to see who dies first and hardest: Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and Twitch. We truly are living in the best timeline.
They’re all learning that massive amounts of users doesn’t necessarily mean profit. It’s like the gold rush in the fact that the only people making money are the ones selling tools (the cloud server providers)
I find it so funny how he kept on increasing the numbers, gave a “no wait please come back” vibe. Also so concerned on how little thought was put into this change, and the changes in general.
How little thought? Motherfucker even I thought the numbers were ok and use Twitter daily. The only people seriously effected by 600 tweets daily are severely addicted to the platform
there is actually no mainstream social media that is welcoming for artists anymore, I don't want to just isolate myself amongst other artists on tumblr
Never thought a social media platform to become pay to win. I've been following a lot of French riots related news and Twitter literally locked me out for an entire day when this policy came into effect. Truly the worst downgrade in social media history.
@@CJ-wh7ik 600 actually* Have you ever used Twitter btw?? In this new policy even scrolling past tweets count as reading and it doesn't even take 10 minutes to scroll through a 300 tweets. Twitter is still the best platform for news and stuff.
@@CJ-wh7ikwhat a dumb statement, literally any tweet that you scroll past is counted as a “view” and the app thinks you read the tweet even when you didn’t. 10 minutes of scrolling is enough to hit the limit even when you only actually engaged with a few tweets
I’ve always been really happy Twitter forces you to log in to view posts. That extra step allows me to realize I don’t care enough and I usually go do something else more productive
Seeing a lot of comments about artists, creators and news outlets and just wanted to add that this will be disastrous for activists too. A lot of campaign information is shared via twitter, and a lot of activists use (or used..) twitter because the censorship on twitter differed greatly to the censorship on other apps. I worry what will happen to activists living in countries where it is hard to get mainstream media coverage of what goes on in their country, and when it does, it's because twitter and other social platforms have highlighted the issue. I have also seen a lot of local activism and people sharing their own stories on twitter because mainstream media won't cover it. It could harm freedom of speech and allow mainstream media and news to control what we see
Ehhh, i don't know. A lot of very radical stupid people gather up on twitter and do stupid shit. See Germany and "The last Generation". Basically, a bunch of dumbass kids, who are very worried about climate change cry on twitter every day about this and that. They gahter up for protests on twitter and then glue themselves on very used roads in cities and such. Basically blocking everyone for some attention
Charlie equating the average twitter user's addiction to the platform to Bane's perpetual need for the venom to fill his lungs with tubes was so on point.
I like the cheese analogy.. I imagine a sewer full of rats and someone races a cheese block through it with a racing drone, watching the tidal wave of rats following and scurrying through the tunnels, racing to get the inevitable "impossible cheese"
Jesus. So stop using Twitter. It’s an annoying, hateful website of the second worst people on earth after TikTok. Just leave it and literally none of this matters.
@@xdCoolesding The problem is that bots make up a big chunk of the platform population, and advertisers don't want to waste money advertising to robots that won't buy their product. Musk's goal is to eliminate the majority of bots on the platform.
Could this be a symptom not just of Musk's Stupidity, but of an impossible dilemma. If bots roam platforms to an undesirabe degree, can you stop them? I don't care for the reason why, maybe it is advertisement loss, maybe it is a DDOS-like strain on their servers, or maybe it will be bots pretening to be humans and crowding us out. If only restrictions like these can 'fix' the issue, but make a platform unusable as some say, could we be seeing some websites built for us unable to exist in a world with bots? And so platforms will die. It would be a first instance of losing a part of our human world beecause bots exist.
We had an earthquake near midnight in my area a few months ago, and when I went to see what had happened nobody had even got onto reporting on it yet. Even on a major site dedicated to reporting earthquakes the wasn't any reports yet. Twitter doing this makes similar situations even worse as lots of people won't be able to get news about the event.
Honestly i don't think so. There was an early experiment for that almost 15 years ago called fotolog. You were able to upload 1 photo per day and if you payed the subscription, it went up to 6. It had it's initial succes, that it lasted until a free platform took over (facebook) and it literally died in 1 or 2 years. I imagine with the state of the internet today, if twitter were to implement this for more than 1 month or 2 there will be no user left on the platform. The only place where this works is in gacha games or things like that, were you have a limited quantity of things you can do per day to get rewards, and it works because usually there's other things to do in the game or they are mobile games not meant to be played more than 1 hour or 2 per day.
This was Elon's best move so far. Twitter blue subscribers literally paid to be seen, even if they won't admit it, and now nobody can see them. It's perfection.
Let's just be happy that app is dying. It has contributed absolutely nothing to my life since elon took over. He clearly pushes a bunch of political BS as well which makes the app and its degenerate users even more annoying. Like the "for you" page is supposed to be in theory for you. Yet all it has is everything you dont want to see - politics. Plus he says he wants freedom of speech but bans words like "cis". Either ban all "slurs" or ban none. You cant just ban some slurs and leave others. Like i have no problem than he is a conservative but as twitter's owner, he should be making more neutral decisions that benefit everyone.
The number 1 feature, hands down, on dating apps is that you have a finite number of likes per day. Otherwise those things would be crack cocaine. Whatever executive thought it would be a good idea for the free version to limit the addictiveness should be fired and given a Nobel prize.
It's literally gonna kill the site. Like I was so confused when it stopped letting me see new tweets after like 2 minutes then I found out about that and I'm just done
Fun fact: your own tweets (as in your own profile page) count toward the rate limit, and reloading a tweet and its responses all count toward it as well. It's not even a matter of tweets you actually scroll to, it include tweets that are loaded ahead of time of scrolling.
Yeah this is kinda messed up but people underestimate how much 300 tweets are. That's easily 2 hours worth of reading tweets. If you pay for the checkmark, aside from being a clown you can now read for an entire day. The only thing this does is help stop bots, however the execution is kinda wack rn
@@tubax926you fail to see though that those aren’t just tweets. Let’s say you open a tweet real quick? All the replies loaded below, let’s say 50 or so mean you just used up 51 even though you didn’t scroll down. And that’s not even your full feed loading which even if you go to search and don’t even touch the feed the app opened you still got all those posts taken away from your numbers.
As a young teen I used to get so excited about the idea of going to space, and Elon Musk’s Mars Colony was like a dream come true for that little guy. But now as I get older I realize how dystopian and horrible it would be. Renting oxygen cans for $20 a minute. Housing where the lights only run for 15 minute intervals. I should have realized Red Faction was warning me
Not to mention Mars colonization is borderline impossible. The horrendous radiation and temperature changes would mean you would have to love your entire life underground, and the lower gravity would destroy your bones in a few years at most. Elon never tells people the scientific reality because he doesn't understand science at all, he's a marketing guy not a genius inventor.
Trying to a colonize a planet that God didn't create to be colonized is just a grand way to get humbled. The Titanic was a very strong ship, nothing could of have gone wrong. Then they said God couldn't sink it.
I was forced to create a twitter account because of the “only logged-in users can see tweets” policy so I could view information relevant to my job, and the day after I made my account, the rate limit was introduced. I’m taking this as a sign to stay off this site as much as possible.
That's why this is so f***** up. Twitter was reported on with links to official statements from politicians and companies.... But now like the New York times and any other online website is going to have to avoid using Twitter links. So probably have to start relying on screenshots or paraphrasing or just direct quoting with no links. This is going to result in a huge decrease in institutional reliance on Twitter. It won't happen overnight but this is not going to work out
So your company uses Twitter for official work updates and information. That’s a terrible idea. What happens if Twitter goes offline, TikTok company updates.
@@johnathanhaggard5647 The only problem with that theory is that it does not explain why he is still trying to keep up appearances. Why not just shut it down if that is the real goal?
For myself and a couple of my friends, the change where you can't even view a tweet without logging in was the nail in the coffin for us because we only even briefly visited via other sites. The actual scroll limits don't even matter. I can proudly say that I probably haven't even hit that 300 post limit since Twitter came out.
@@sikozen he already didn’t use the app itself it and announced that accessing it isn’t even a consideration now with the login requirement from clicking a link from another site. He can’t quit what he doesn’t “use.”
I feel like the one thing that I haven’t heard anyone talk about yet is the good uses of data scraping. In some of my data classes we used Twitter API to scrape and do research in an academic sense. Same thing with Reddit’s API
I think it's more than just data scraping. Last I knew they were also refusing to pay a big Google contract for server infrastructure that would kick them off some services at the end of June. I know they were trying to move stuff off that infrastructure but massively behind schedule. Seems more likely that it's to prevent complete failure while they try to fix that stuff and Elon is pushing the blame off on data scraping to look better than "hey we didn't pay our contract and now the platform is crumbling"
I entirely agree with Charlie at around 5:25 every poor decision twitter makes essentially effects artists, small businesses, and journalists the most, aside from Twitter employees themselves of course.
@@CathrineMacNiel Your smug reply makes no sense. Why would you opt to buy a domain, subscribe to a hosting service, maintain the site, pay for the database, and buy ads with unacceptable click-conversion rates when you can ride on the coattails of a platform that can deliver your content to a curated demographic? Not to mention that your site would be decentralized from other social media, so your users would need to create accounts on your random site just to engage with your content. That just doesn’t work for smaller artists. If smaller content creators struggle to keep their Discord servers alive, try to convince me they can sustain a community on a self-hosted blog.
@@UsernameUsername0000exactly! A lot of people rely on Twitter for work, including people that I watch on yt, and there aren't many good replacements for all their supporters to now move to that has the same functions.
Someone on tumblr commented that when they resurrected their old account, they where shocked to see the amount of likes and re-blogs they had accrued in the four years they had been gone. I get that Twitter was the replacement but tumblr genuinely has better interactions and click through then Twitter. Especially now with the Twitter/Reddit refugees that came over
@@marcosramirez2278 I agree. And so many people say they feel worse after being on twitter as people can be very toxic and/or extreme, so it would definitely be good in that sense.
He’s helping Macron censor dissent to stifle mobilisation in France. Twitter will be back to normal once things have died. Only last month Elon similarly helped Erdogan in Turkey with censorship of dissent before election.
I cannot express how devastated I am that twitter keeps getting worse. It was my largest platform for my art commissions and "business" if you will. I've abandoned all hope of being an artist full time simply because ALL social media platforms are getting worse for small artists and businesses. It's not made to find new things anymore. It's only made for cheap clicks and pennies.
The part of this that annoys me the most is that the promoted tweets (the ads) are going to count. So having an ad every 3 tweets makes it so you have so many less to view
I love the Elon Musk Fanboys one week he's a genius and the next week they're mad at him PFFFFFFFTBWUHAHAHAHA At this rate it's going to take him 50 years to break even from buying it
@@thecloneguyzhe will never break even. He will run twitter into the ground, and have wasted 50 billion dollars. And for this, he is a genuine hero. I hope he buys reddit next.
It took me three hours of screen time on my phone before I got limited as a non verified user. These fucking clowns crying about rate limits after browsing for what, 15 minutes? These people out here are actually insane.
@@Ahhahhhsiisisso what your saying is people like Charlie and some of most famous celebrities on the planet who use Twitter to promote their content shouldn’t be able to use it to promote their content?
The way he keep slightly increasing the limit makes me think that when the limit hit the point where users stop complaining or the amount of complaints are low enough to the acceptable level, he might make that limit permanent.
When they made the API difficult to use, people went to basically automating a bunch of tabs to download everything they want - but that creates a much greater burden on their servers. Speaking of servers - this happened the day after the final day for Twitter to pay for Google's cloud service support. Also, the limit was so poorly enforced that when people hit their limit they continue to send GET requests to twitter at a rapid rate. This also comes at the same time a lot of platforms are realizing that they've been hosting the data used to train "AI" and they're not getting a cut. Also, it looks like Musk is operating as a weird enshitification vanguard, he'll do something terrible and a few months later one of the other giants will feel like they can give it a shot too. That's important because the end of the near-zero interest rate era means every part of the internet you're familiar with is going to provide a much worse and more expensive experience for consumers and business partners.
The end of near zero interest rate? All we need is another president like Trump and they will come back down. Matter fact, you should thank him for that. People can say whatever they want about him but he made sure the economy was booming.
@@adambreezy251 The president doesn't set the interest rates. The federal reserve does. The zero interest rate environment was not a good thing, it led to a ton of people investing in stupid bullshit instead of productive businesses. It also was not sustainable and the longer we stayed in that state the harder the shock was going to be whenever we inevitably needed to deal with inflation again. If you want anyone with a shred of critical thinking to respect your opinions don't ascribe an entire economy's performance to who occupies the presidency. It's the most classic tell in the book that someone doesn't know what they're talking about. You sound like a peasant who believes having the rightful king on the throne will bring good harvests.
@@adambreezy251 he did also significantly increased the national debt to the largest point it's been since 1945 and he became president at the height of the economic boom
As someone who is addicted to twitter and at the same time doesn’t have a twitter account I am happy that Twitter has decided to end the addiction for me by not being able to see tweets because I don’t have an account. It’s like being in the presence of heroin but not actually taking it
I delete my twitter account every month, take a month long break then start a new account. It’s great it resets the algorithm and it makes you really thankful for what you have, whether it be limitless access to information or freedom from the allures of social crack-media. Try it for yourselves 😉
Twitter addicts will just make new accounts to bypass the limit. This is the same thing with Reddit, when subs blacked out or did the stupid john oliver stuff the users didn't leave the site, the people that said they'd leave the site when the 3rd party apps were disabled, guess where the are? Still on reddit. It takes people who are addicted a strong will to quit their addiction and let's be honest, losers on the internet are not that strong willed.
its gonna be worse than reddittors tryna be Rick Sanchez irl but end up being massive Jerry losers. now we will have ppl imagining an entire conversation in their alternate reality and be mad at nothing and screaming at us like a gf whos bf cheated on her in her dream
Instagram and to some point, tumblr, and some other sites do that (or worse, don't tell you till you're part of the way through reading and logging in will disrupt your progress) and i will usually just close out, despite having an account because what i wanted to see was just not worth losing my place and renavigating everything
It's hilarious how quickly Zuckerberg announced his own alternative to Twitter the minute Elon made that tweet, it's as if he had it ready for a while and was just waiting for the perfect time lol
Twitter has been struggling for a while now but this is probably the nail in the coffin. What advertiser is going to want to pay for ads that wont get seen due to limits? Its like Elon saw Reddit's mistake and wanted to outdo it.
Your comment proves you don't know what you're talking about. You're not going to be paying if you aren't getting impressions / clicks. You don't pay for advertisements on the internet the same way that you pay for an ad to be on a billboard. Unless it's a static website and you're paying to put an old-school banner up..
@@mitchell10394 actually he does, if twitter completely blocks all access to the feed after the limit there would be a downtime between when the feed is down to when the daily limit is replenished where ad companies can not run ads and make money. Why continue to do buisness with a social media that hard limits your profitability that way? The literal point of advertising is getting your product/service seen by as many people as possible, limiting the possible outreach literally screws over the whole premise of advertising to begin with.
It might encourage advertiser's to pay for ads assuming more money = more impressions. Many companies will compete for the decreased number of time for each user. I hope I'm getting my point across, sorry for any confusion.
it actually can go even faster because it also counts replies as posts. Meaning if you do click on a tweet that has a large number of replies, it throws them in, then you go back to your home, oh also it counts YOUR OWN POSTS too. Even stupider is the fact that when you hit that limit, the browser keeps trying to grab new tweets anyways. In fact it is spamming the servers with requests, meaning they're practically DDOSing themselves too. It's absolutely insane how bad this policy actually is.
Wow, we've finally reached the point where social media does NOT allows us to be social anymore. I guess it'd be good for reducing habits and stuffs, but what about artists and creators there, it'll limit them like crazy.
Yes, I know they can always move somewhere else like most of my pals did. Doesn't change the fact that Twitter is one of the most well-known, and where most default'd when talking about international reach. The websites and platforms y'all mentioned may be available and leagues better than Twitter, but if they have no reach (especially the smaller, local-reliant one where I had most friends with) then it wouldn't matter. Also didnt change the fact that they're contradicting themselves for being a social media, still.
The absolute irony that this went live the exact day I decided to search artists to order a commission. I barely ever use twitter, but I wanted to buy art and hit the limit before I could decide who to contact.
@@Drak976lots of people use twitter to build an audience for their art and do commissions, and a lot of people find good artists to follow and buy from on there
This isn’t to combat data scraping. This is to combat automated tools. For example, tools that delete tweets. Each month, you get access to 3600 tweets in your history. You can no longer delete 3600 in a single go. You could also delete more than this with certain types of automation, but this is now extremely limited. So accounts looking to delete hundreds of thousands of tweets in their history can no longer do it in sweeping changes using automated tools. This is not to combat bots or third party use of the data. This is to stop the bleeding of users.
I stopped using Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat; and now I feel happier without the negativity of social media fueling my insecurities. I urge people to try it out, even if it’s temporary and I hope it helps with everyone’s mental health.
Thats great, but a lot of people use twitter for their job, or to follow big current events, or for disaster warnings and response. Scrolling through a few reply threads to gauge sentiment is 500 views gone.
It's real, I have deactivated all social media accounts, except Twitter since I use twitter to read news, learning and see some drawings from others. I mean people using Twitter are generally smarter than other social media
I wish I can do that but I hardly can get off of social media, even whenever I use social media I feel anxious, when I dont use social media I still feel anxious. I think the only social media(s) that I got rid of last year were snapchat and twitter. I wish I could do the same with tje other two platforms I use since i can see most of my family members on there. But hey good on you.
The problem to me is that even if we move to a new site, it's unlikely for any new social media site to have just as much international reach as twitter does. I follow lots of Japanese accounts, so even if all English speaking users move to a new site, it's unlikely that the Japanese accounts I follow will move to the same place.
Yeah I mean, Twitter has built itself over more than a decade right? So any site that might replace it will likely take several years to build itself up to a similar level
The "not logging in" part is going to be the nail in the coffin, i genuinely believe this. This hurts social and government services in the US like the National Weather Service, any Parks Department announcements regarding fires or National Park visits, emergency broadcast news, etc. It affects state and federal representatives trying to get announcements out to the people quickly. It affects announcements about campaign results for those who aren't subscribed to something like the New York Times. This actually even affects newspapers and news orgs like NYT, WaPo, Fox, CNN, BBC, and a myriad of other international news outlets. I don't think Twitter has this luxury like you say they do.
The problem with this is that the only feature in Twitter or the center piece and entertainment is the tweet. It's like RUclips giving you maximum amount of video you can watch per day. That's just borderline insanity
The greatest loss is honestly for the artists that I see there. As an occasional artist on Twitter, this really is going to affect us a lot because of the rate limit exceeding. There are other platforms, yes, but its harder. Not only thing but I do use the platform to be aware of certain incidents that are occurring in real time (fires, shootings, etc.) Yes people spend a lot of time on Twitter, but there are certain downsides to this new change.
Maybe that Federated thing would be a good idea. Somebody makes one geared towards artists and comments. Get feedback from a bunch of artists in a beta to tweak the design, release the source code so artists if they choose can run their own instance/a group can run an instance so even if the core one goes insane, they can just jettison connections from it and keep posting to their own instance...
Another twitter addict pretending they are somehow morally correct and objectively superior about something they literally have no clue about because they don't like the fact they can't suckle on twitter's teat all day for a little bit. 4
This has to be the most ret*rded thing they've done. "Never go full ret*ard!" I still can't believe they didn't realize "maybe this is not such a good idea," and rolled it back. People are pissed. If people don't leave now, then when? It's unusable. Most people are not going to pay.
I feel bad for artists and small business but there HAS to be an alternative site for artists to get traction eventually. Twitter is such a bad space to showcase and archive art for people but for some god foresaken reason it's become the most successful one. Tumblr shooting itself in the foot continues to be the worst thing to happen to the internet.
Tumblr was a hellscape hahaha. So was twitter when activists ran it and subsidized it. You give up way too much using those services. Way too much. Eventually I imagine Elon will get twitter heading in the right direction. Making it profitable outside of just storing and selling all our data is a good first step
Sadly there's a reason for that and it is pretty easy to understand: twitter wasn't a platform for art. That was it's strongest point. You didn't needed to like art and go out of your way to find it, so that made a lot of people who usually wouldn't look for art find it by "accident" (either some friend retweeted it or something), and attract people more easily. I myself like art but the only real way i find it is through scrolling in instagram, i liked one image an then boom, i found 30 more artist, but i very very rarely would go out of my way to a different platform just to look art for myself.
@@matiasd5226the OG art website used to be tumblr before like 2017… then after tumblr died it was like divided between instagram and twitter but now Elon is killing twt and ig is actively trying to suppress artists by getting rid of the recent posts tab for hashtags and pretty much only investing in reels.
@@jjongjjongiefan7324Imma let u artists in on a little secret Tumblr isn’t dead We all just told y’all it was dead so the redditors and twitter users would stay out, but if plenty of artists do commissions on Tumblr
@@sweethysteria8737 Ahahahaha I was wondering if anyone was going to point out the obvious. No no no sweety you probably make actual wholesome art. These people are trying to sell their nsfw furry smut. That's why all the redditors and twitter users are gone. If I just started naming some of the r/subreddits youtube would delete my account again for saying gross stuff.
as a twitter cc, at first i was like "oh this doesn't affect me, i literally go on to post, then log off" but when you mentioned that others won't be able to reach my content, that's kind of a huge issue.
Honestly if Twitter is ending, i will really miss the artists that i am following, they all have unique art styles and i just dont know if i will ever find them again
@@Punchmadedev. hating what ?????? No one here is hating on anything. We are lamenting that we might not be able to see art from our favourites. Not everything is an attack.
I just read a theory about what's _actually_ going on that makes sense: Twitter tried to do something stupid with their API, they messed it up in a way that will take days, so Elon is doing this new "You can only read 600 posts a day" thing as a cover, and he'll say "After hearing your feedback, we've reversed the policy" when it's fixed.
""After hearing your feedback, we've reversed the policy" when it's fixed" Why would he need to say that? He can just say "the problem is fixed", he implies there is a problem where people are abusing the site, he also says it's temporary. It's obviously gonna go back to normal, that's what temporary means. This is clearly not gonna be the new normal for twitter, pulling 300 comments is something that can be done extremely quickly. It doesn't have to be comments you read, it could be from you scrolling your home feed. You could speedrun it in less than a minute.
@@Death-999 I might be also reading the first part of your comment wrong but I don't think "when it's fixed" is part of the quote, its just "After hearing your feedback, we've reversed the policy"
Elon is doing everything except banning the child p0rn on his website. I haven't seen it but a few people have on their timeline. One of the reasons i deleted the app along with the random politics on the for you page
People should be paid to interact with these death trap websites and be given formal charges for facilitation (rather than being punished without charges the way things are at the moment )
I follow a lot of artists, and commission thing from them too. Its awful for this part of the community and there, sadly, isn't a comparable option at the moment.
It’s not even about being addicted. As an artist I love seeing other artists work, but you scroll thro so much unnecessary tweets until you find artwork you looking for. And it’s even worse for artists who are trying to grow…
@@BfkcjscbsnjcNo, you are not making the art so you're not the artist, tho if you use AI for reference and help in drawing your own pieces, then yes you are an artist, it really boils down to if YOU drew it, then you're the artist
I have a feeling that youtube is going to do the same thing sooner or later Limitng How many vids you can view a day, depending on your account status, new unverified, old unverified, verified, Premium Yikes
12:22 there is a solution that doesn’t nuke the whole platform: Step 1: do require the account sign-in; Step 2: calculate the rate at which human users stop to read tweets VS the rate at which they’re shown (there is zero chance that a human will read every tweet, but a scraper bot will probably read most/all tweets displayed to it); if an account reads every tweet and at a rate that far exceeds the rate at which a human can read them, it’s a bot. - Twitter does already collect data on whether tweets are shown or interacted with as part of their advertiser-side analytics. - once potential bot accounts have been identified, they can be blocked (subject to appeal). Twitter is unlikely to do this of course as blocking scrapers certainly looks like a smokescreen for forcing people to pay money.
@@hoze1235he overestimated the building process of a single rocket ship And that did not account for launching calculation and landing calculations and preparation
I think I saw someone say that even if you were verified and were scrolling through your feed on average, it would take you around 16 hours to reach the 6,000 post limit. Pretty insane if verified users are reaching that limit.
This is unsurprisingly consistent with everything Elon's done at Twitter. Yes these are real issues he's trying to solve, but the solutions are so laughably bad it's destroying the platform completely
Elon should have hired professionals and have them help him make these decisions And not do them by him self And if he is getting help the helpers are probably not good at their job
This is absolutely terrible for twitter artists, without a proper platform like twitter to grow their audience and share their art on, it will be so much more difficult doing art for a living.
I'm kinda late to this, but I did find something odd with the Twitter limit. If you don't have an account or aren't logged in but use the Twitter app on your phone. This limit seemingly doesn't apply at all, I've experienced no throttling or that notification at all and straight up "doom scrolled" mutahar's feed to see if I'd hit a limit. Mind you I don't have a Twitter account but food for thought.
I feel super bad for artists, twitter has been really the only good platform for so many people not because its a peerless product, but because it is global and universal. This may finally be what forces me off the hellhole that is twitter, I just wished a suitable alternative existed and I will certainly miss alot of content I enjoy.
Ive deleted twitter but for the 2 years i was on the app i rarely came across artists. I didn't even know that it was a primary place for artists to post their work.
@@MbappeDaGoat nsfw artists, and also sfw artists used twitter as a main way for both just engagement with community, getting more fans, and also selling art, this going down is crazy for people who have drawing or selling art as a secondary source of income, and they'd need to switch to shit like deviant art lol
I don’t feel bad, I don’t use Twitter and never will. It’s filled with cancer and idiots. I hope it stays this way and inevitably dies like it should have ages ago.
@@MbappeDaGoat most artist (i think) are from anime and game fanbases. i follow a lot of genshin, star rail and anime content and i come across at least 15 artists a day.
I only have my Twt account to talk with my artist friends, and dedicate my account to retweeting Blaziken fanart (plus my personal stuff like my own art and laughing at people, but that’s 10% of it). This rate limiting thing is kinda destroying the point, even if it was temporary. I'll have to get my friends onto other places we can communicate more often.
But if there’s a max exodus, it’s doom for other SM sites as Reddit and Twitter Brain rots flock to their sites. Remember when Tumblr had its exodus? Yeah I want to forget too.
My assumption is this was to find the bots running on dead servers and block their access. The biggest bot offenders likely hit their rate within microseconds and continuously tried making requests for hours. It's probably a tactic to discourage such bot runners from continuing with their methods, maybe block the biggest networks, and simultaneously experimenting with limiting interaction much like how mobile games do now, provide a few minutes of gameplay before they hit massive artificial paywalls and long timers.
He was probably progressively testing which accounts were hitting the limits too quickly to ban the bad ones. He sets the limit low, some accounts hit the limit immediately, but then only after a certain amount of time will the most addicted human Twitter users in each category start complaining about increasing the limit.
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you cannot kill what is already dead
Ignore those bots (probably elon bootriders) but what do you think how would this affect twitter artists and animators
bruh why are there so many bots
kill it anyway
@@FeFi-FoFum this is the worst comment section i have ever seen in terms if bots
@biglips5i agree
This is great for people’s mental health, but terrible for artists and creators that rely on it.
Pixiv will take over if Twitter dies.
@@gabetalks9275it doesn't work. Pixiv is an art gallery, not a site for social interaction
Guess those artist will have to use tumblr or Instagram as a alternative
@@Heretowatchvideos123Tumblr? it's chill compared to before but I haven't seen people talking about that site with their algorithm and Instagram is in between with theirs.
my farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
This year is basically a contest for who can fumble the bag the most between twitter, reddit, and twitch. The fact these companies can still be at the top despite throwing is insane.
Not really, it's easy to understand, simply because of lack of proper competition
Even if you don't like it, you are still forced to use it because of its popularity and sway
You forgot RUclips as well. Their demonetizing spree has ruined and pissed off a lot of content creators. Probably not as bad as the rest but everyone seems to be getting in on the fail train.
Cuz people addicted to social media 😂 simple as that
@@Gamespud94That isn't really throwing, though. The viewers aren't effected, small creators aren't noticed, and big creators do RUclips as a job so they probably won't leave. While it's bad, it doesn't really impact people in charge of the site in any major way.
Tumblr being like Patrick's rock in the snail race lmaoooo
This is a huge problem for the National Weather Service Twitter. They litterally sometimes put out more than 6000 watches and warnings. He is limiting the ability for people to get (moist)critical info about bad and dangerous weather situations
this. same with amber alerts. and fourth of july weekend is probably the worst time he could have chosen to do this.
they shouldn't be relying on twitter for posting them
@@burp2019 True but sometimes that's one of the quickest options. I've used it a few times to keep up with severe weather in my area
@@burp2019just because there should be a better option doesn’t mean there is, for whatever reason they are very fast
@burp2019 when it comes to emergency services, any little bit helps. It's why a lot of emergency broadcasts have social media channels on nearly every big site. To catch anyone that just happens to be scrolling.
the only thing that's keeping Twitter alive is the lack of an alternative platform
100% true
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There are altenratives, like Bluesky and Mastadon.
However they are in clowed beta.
Maybe telegram could be considered an altwrnative as well
Isn't that the case for most of these stupid social media companies. Such as RUclips etc
Reddit time 😂
I feel bad for the artists and content creators that rely on Twitter, but everyone else, not so much.
Don't rely on a platform where one guy that doesn't care about you is running it...
@@JasonKinderwiiboy I will spread ur cheeks lil bro 😭🙏🏻🙏🏻I betta not catch you in my comments again or it’s finna gon be OVER for you 👾
@@JasonKinderwiiboyyea sure man
@@JasonKinderwiiboydont be a clown all of your life
except the OF creators that respond with dumb shit on twitter posts or shit that doesn't have anything to do with the tweet
APIs were supposed to be the solution to the data scraping problem: by reducing server load. The problem is that Elon raised API prices FAR above the cost to provide the service: so people are falling back to old-fashioned scraping methods.
I heard that Twitter broke a web hosting contract with Google on June 30th. THAT is why they are rate-limiting so aggressively.
Elon speed running learning basic network management.
I'm a web dev and i was gonna go on another rant about twitter, but it feels like beating a dead bird at this point.
You don't even need to try that hard to scrape. When twitter loads a web page it tells your browser to make an api request that has all the data for the page (as opposed to server side rendering which just gives you the page with the data). So if you want to search for something and scrape the results, you can just get everything in a clean json that's always formatted the same with the same request as easy as the api.
So elon is basically saying "stop scraping data" and at the same time it's super easy to scrape data.
These feel like problems I would be dealing with if I had a website blow up, not a multi billion dollar corporation. Oh wait he fired everyone.
It's kind of impressive that twitter and twitch managed to make RUclips like a site with good decisions
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Twitter, Twitch and Reddit
You’ve obviously never used RUclips for anything other than entertainment. The amount of sneaky shadow bans I’ve been hit with is nothing short of criminal. Meanwhile the dangerous agenda they deem as acceptable flys by unchallenged…
Being a Twitter "Power user" is truly a fate worse than death.
Sucks for people who use it as part of their job or business, or who want to keep up with big current events, or disaster warnings and response. If this system had been in place during the Turkiye earthquake thousands more people would have died.
It also sucks for the Blue paypigs because it severely limits the forced audience they spent money for.
@brilobox2 Ya other than the emergency response utility I doubt anyone really cares lol
@@Js-eq7ydjournalists?
What the point of a social media if we can’t be social?
@@Js-eq7yd Power users is not meant as a degrading term, which is why Charlie explicitly mentioned them as separate from "actual hard addicts". There are people whose lives and jobs are wholly dependent on Twitter's existence and free usability.
the best part of this is that twitter refused to pay google for their cloud services yesterday, meaning that the reason behind the rate limit is because they didn't have time to move all of their storage somewhere else before their deal expired lol
Yup yup yup, more ppl need to see this comment
Glad I read this
Another twitter addict pretending they are somehow morally correct and objectively superior about something they literally have no clue about because they don't like the fact they can't suckle on twitter's teat all day for a little bit. 5
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USA Today asked Elon Musk about it and they sent them the poop emoji
It doesn't matter if it's temporary because now we all know he's willing to do something this radical and stupid. Any business that continues to depend on this as a serious part of their future is asking for trouble. Any community that is trying to build something inside the walls of Twitter is done. I mean even if he didn't impose this limit, the very fact that he limited the ability for non-accounts to read a solitary link to tweet would be a huge scandal in and of its own right
right because people in the past have had great success posting on sites like facebook that is filled with bots and only used by boomers, or youtube and old twitter where one political side was censored to oblivion. "Twitter is dying!" say people who dislike twitter
Yeah, Twitter under Musk is volatile as all hell. And volatile platforms do not attract investments.
What is with this reaction? Do you seriously not get how fucking bad data scraping is? If we had an action that would inconvenience the average person but could immediately stop climate change while we find a more workable solution wouldn't you think that's a good idea?
The limits and restrictions on logging in is really bad for emergency situations. During the bushfires in australia the alerts were going through twitter on what areas had to be evacuated immediately and whether you needed an evac plan if you were close to a fire
Advertisers are going to LOVE the fact the people they're paying to advertise to can only spend 5 minutes a day reading their ads!
Advertisements are an absolute plague anyway
At this point the only ads I see on Twitter are scam shop bots so idk how much advertising is actually being done anymore
ads are a scam anyway, good products do not need to market themselves to gullible people
@@scottbarnett3566ads are the reason things are cheap/free, careful what you wish for
@playcube4564 So you just know about every product, service, game, etc by default?
The downfall of twitter is the best thing to ever happen to the internet
Not really once it falls the crazies will move somewhere else
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no it isn’t, all of its users are gonna spread out to platforms like RUclips
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this is the truth, you were honest with us
As for the "twitter is the only platform that could pull off [required login for viewing content]" part - I'm pretty sure Pinterest and Instagram have always done something like that.
Yeah, those three have as long as I can remember, required you to log in after a couple of minutes/posts viewed on their site.
So this new login change honestly isn’t much different from what existed earlier on Twitter. Then you could see about 3 posts before being forced to log in.
@@SuvuICthe difference here is that twitter used to let you see or example unlimited tweets via clicking a link on discord, now you have to log in
Makes lurking all the harder.
So has twitter! Seriously what browser have you been using that didn’t put up that login wall bs before this???
@@kathrineici9811 I've never had that login wall, I haven't had a twitter account in years and used to check posts from time to time if linked.
Considering that most people refuse to buy blue checks he is going to kill the platform. I would love to see how he explains this to his remaining advertisers that are going to lose a ton of potential views.
He owns the platform, so he doesn't have to explain anything. He can run twitter into the ground if he wants to. Its weird, but he seems determined.
@@PepsiMagt I think this was just an ego trip - a $44B ego trip.
@@wheelhouse15 yes. He paid 42 billion because its a funny meme number. He essentially paid billion in order to shitpost. Its bizarre.
@@PepsiMagt I have to assume that he is a Douglas Adams fan lol. He was already doing that stuff before, paying several billions over valuation was truly bizarre!
I cannot think of anything more self-sabotaging than keeping social media users from seeing posts. Think about it, this includes advertising, and you're keeping users from seeing and clicking on those ads. That's Twitter's main revenue source and crippling it even temporarily will seriously impact their revenue.
What about Netflix?
@@charliepremostudios8869 Netflix gets most of their money from subscriptions, not advertisements. Twitter on the other hand has very few incentives to want to be subscribed, and doesn't make enough from it's subscribers to cover costs.
The are probably doing it for a reason hence "temporary", but yeah go off I guess lmao
@@danielfernandez3511if you just leave Netflix on, it kills their bandwidth. It's costly. Hence, they ask if you're still watching. Twitter is doing similar. They'll adjust the post count to figure out what works. But Netflix does the same thing.
Instagram does the same damn thing. Been doing it for years. I don't have an insta so anytime I try to see something, I get about 10 seconds before being asked to login
I love that all these big tech companies are downright competing to see who dies first and hardest: Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and Twitch. We truly are living in the best timeline.
They’re all learning that massive amounts of users doesn’t necessarily mean profit. It’s like the gold rush in the fact that the only people making money are the ones selling tools (the cloud server providers)
Including RUclips and Tiktok
@@SenpaiSentaiRUclips and tiktok are nowhere near the danger zone
I feel like nothing of value would be lost if Reddit goes under
@@SenpaiSentai wtf are you talking about
I find it so funny how he kept on increasing the numbers, gave a “no wait please come back” vibe. Also so concerned on how little thought was put into this change, and the changes in general.
How little thought? Motherfucker even I thought the numbers were ok and use Twitter daily. The only people seriously effected by 600 tweets daily are severely addicted to the platform
there is actually no mainstream social media that is welcoming for artists anymore, I don't want to just isolate myself amongst other artists on tumblr
Never thought a social media platform to become pay to win. I've been following a lot of French riots related news and Twitter literally locked me out for an entire day when this policy came into effect. Truly the worst downgrade in social media history.
You read 300 tweets?! I'm glad you had to stop. In hindsight you should thank Musk for this policy
@@CJ-wh7ik it literally takes 30 fucking seconds to see 300 tweets.. just opening a twitter thread and scrolling through the comments wont take long.
@@CJ-wh7ik 600 actually* Have you ever used Twitter btw?? In this new policy even scrolling past tweets count as reading and it doesn't even take 10 minutes to scroll through a 300 tweets. Twitter is still the best platform for news and stuff.
More like pay to play
@@CJ-wh7ikwhat a dumb statement, literally any tweet that you scroll past is counted as a “view” and the app thinks you read the tweet even when you didn’t. 10 minutes of scrolling is enough to hit the limit even when you only actually engaged with a few tweets
Imagine a service like Netflix limiting their paying users to one episode per day
Edna: NO CAPES
Netflix: NO BINGE
Don't give them ideas.
That's just business suicide
@@kaiwilliams2181 Implying that Edna implemented her cape ban for no reason.
That would be good for society
I’ve always been really happy Twitter forces you to log in to view posts. That extra step allows me to realize I don’t care enough and I usually go do something else more productive
Seeing a lot of comments about artists, creators and news outlets and just wanted to add that this will be disastrous for activists too. A lot of campaign information is shared via twitter, and a lot of activists use (or used..) twitter because the censorship on twitter differed greatly to the censorship on other apps. I worry what will happen to activists living in countries where it is hard to get mainstream media coverage of what goes on in their country, and when it does, it's because twitter and other social platforms have highlighted the issue. I have also seen a lot of local activism and people sharing their own stories on twitter because mainstream media won't cover it. It could harm freedom of speech and allow mainstream media and news to control what we see
Twitter activists are awful tho
Ehhh, i don't know. A lot of very radical stupid people gather up on twitter and do stupid shit. See Germany and "The last Generation". Basically, a bunch of dumbass kids, who are very worried about climate change cry on twitter every day about this and that. They gahter up for protests on twitter and then glue themselves on very used roads in cities and such. Basically blocking everyone for some attention
@@kathrineici9811 Agreed.
Charlie equating the average twitter user's addiction to the platform to Bane's perpetual need for the venom to fill his lungs with tubes was so on point.
@@Punchmadedev. black person behavior
my farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
Experimental internet gas
I like the cheese analogy..
I imagine a sewer full of rats and someone races a cheese block through it with a racing drone, watching the tidal wave of rats following and scurrying through the tunnels, racing to get the inevitable "impossible cheese"
People viewing over 300 posts a day are exposing their own pathetic lives. Its a feast today boys!
The problem is the limit is hit NOT by viewing tweets you wanna see, it's hit due to spam, ads, and people you hate!
well it clearly says temporary so this is almost certainly not permanent fix...
Jesus. So stop using Twitter. It’s an annoying, hateful website of the second worst people on earth after TikTok. Just leave it and literally none of this matters.
@@xdCoolesding The problem is that bots make up a big chunk of the platform population, and advertisers don't want to waste money advertising to robots that won't buy their product. Musk's goal is to eliminate the majority of bots on the platform.
@@Aercryptic surely
Could this be a symptom not just of Musk's Stupidity, but of an impossible dilemma.
If bots roam platforms to an undesirabe degree, can you stop them? I don't care for the reason why, maybe it is advertisement loss, maybe it is a DDOS-like strain on their servers, or maybe it will be bots pretening to be humans and crowding us out.
If only restrictions like these can 'fix' the issue, but make a platform unusable as some say, could we be seeing some websites built for us unable to exist in a world with bots? And so platforms will die.
It would be a first instance of losing a part of our human world beecause bots exist.
We had an earthquake near midnight in my area a few months ago, and when I went to see what had happened nobody had even got onto reporting on it yet. Even on a major site dedicated to reporting earthquakes the wasn't any reports yet. Twitter doing this makes similar situations even worse as lots of people won't be able to get news about the event.
“You fool! I have 70 alternative accounts!” -eggman
What makes me afraid is whether other internet companies will go this route and aggressively monetize everything
No lol they already could now with net neutrality but given the necessity of internet that would likely get them nationalized so they won’t do it
Heh that would help stop addiction to online surfing and social at least
Honestly i don't think so. There was an early experiment for that almost 15 years ago called fotolog. You were able to upload 1 photo per day and if you payed the subscription, it went up to 6. It had it's initial succes, that it lasted until a free platform took over (facebook) and it literally died in 1 or 2 years. I imagine with the state of the internet today, if twitter were to implement this for more than 1 month or 2 there will be no user left on the platform.
The only place where this works is in gacha games or things like that, were you have a limited quantity of things you can do per day to get rewards, and it works because usually there's other things to do in the game or they are mobile games not meant to be played more than 1 hour or 2 per day.
thats how capitalism works babe
You either pay for a product, or you are the product. If it's free to you, you are the product.
This was Elon's best move so far. Twitter blue subscribers literally paid to be seen, even if they won't admit it, and now nobody can see them. It's perfection.
I detect sarcasm…!
Twitter blue: pay to be seen
Twitter double blue: pay to see
Let's just be happy that app is dying. It has contributed absolutely nothing to my life since elon took over. He clearly pushes a bunch of political BS as well which makes the app and its degenerate users even more annoying. Like the "for you" page is supposed to be in theory for you. Yet all it has is everything you dont want to see - politics. Plus he says he wants freedom of speech but bans words like "cis". Either ban all "slurs" or ban none. You cant just ban some slurs and leave others. Like i have no problem than he is a conservative but as twitter's owner, he should be making more neutral decisions that benefit everyone.
Pay to see freedom of speech
I exposed charlie
I wish more social networks had rate limits like this. It would probably significantly improve the mental health of everyone
It would, but the companies don't care about that
The number 1 feature, hands down, on dating apps is that you have a finite number of likes per day. Otherwise those things would be crack cocaine. Whatever executive thought it would be a good idea for the free version to limit the addictiveness should be fired and given a Nobel prize.
That would be like pharmaceutical companies trying to cure cancer
It's literally gonna kill the site. Like I was so confused when it stopped letting me see new tweets after like 2 minutes then I found out about that and I'm just done
Fun fact: your own tweets (as in your own profile page) count toward the rate limit, and reloading a tweet and its responses all count toward it as well. It's not even a matter of tweets you actually scroll to, it include tweets that are loaded ahead of time of scrolling.
Yeah this is kinda messed up but people underestimate how much 300 tweets are. That's easily 2 hours worth of reading tweets. If you pay for the checkmark, aside from being a clown you can now read for an entire day. The only thing this does is help stop bots, however the execution is kinda wack rn
its temporary, but i still doubt twitter nerds can live 2 days without twitter and needing to touch grass
Goddamn, that's prohibitive. How does Elon (or whoever's making decisions) have this much of a capacity for making terrible decisions???
@@tubax926 2 hours? Nah, you're not reading all the ads the site throws at you between tweets. And the ads count towards the 300 too
@@tubax926you fail to see though that those aren’t just tweets. Let’s say you open a tweet real quick? All the replies loaded below, let’s say 50 or so mean you just used up 51 even though you didn’t scroll down. And that’s not even your full feed loading which even if you go to search and don’t even touch the feed the app opened you still got all those posts taken away from your numbers.
As a young teen I used to get so excited about the idea of going to space, and Elon Musk’s Mars Colony was like a dream come true for that little guy. But now as I get older I realize how dystopian and horrible it would be. Renting oxygen cans for $20 a minute. Housing where the lights only run for 15 minute intervals. I should have realized Red Faction was warning me
Not to mention Mars colonization is borderline impossible. The horrendous radiation and temperature changes would mean you would have to love your entire life underground, and the lower gravity would destroy your bones in a few years at most. Elon never tells people the scientific reality because he doesn't understand science at all, he's a marketing guy not a genius inventor.
Trying to a colonize a planet that God didn't create to be colonized is just a grand way to get humbled. The Titanic was a very strong ship, nothing could of have gone wrong. Then they said God couldn't sink it.
@@-tetraforcenot everybody believes god is real and he most likely isn't. Pretty sure that in the bible, the only planets mentioned were earth.
@@-tetraforce on what authority can you say that Mars wasn't created to be colonized?
@@-tetraforceNo way is this bro a Christian with a Leafy account LMAO
Charlie keeps claiming Twitter is dying yet it's been alive for months since he first said it.
its a very slow and painful death (painful to twitter at least, im not too concerned personally lol)
The only problem is there is so much good content on twitter artists have refused to save, so if twitter dies its gone forever.
I was forced to create a twitter account because of the “only logged-in users can see tweets” policy so I could view information relevant to my job, and the day after I made my account, the rate limit was introduced. I’m taking this as a sign to stay off this site as much as possible.
That's why this is so f***** up. Twitter was reported on with links to official statements from politicians and companies.... But now like the New York times and any other online website is going to have to avoid using Twitter links. So probably have to start relying on screenshots or paraphrasing or just direct quoting with no links.
This is going to result in a huge decrease in institutional reliance on Twitter. It won't happen overnight but this is not going to work out
I expect this is the intended purpose of elon buying twitter, killing off a widespread platform that allowed people to communicate pretty freely
So your company uses Twitter for official work updates and information. That’s a terrible idea. What happens if Twitter goes offline, TikTok company updates.
@@johnathanhaggard5647 The only problem with that theory is that it does not explain why he is still trying to keep up appearances. Why not just shut it down if that is the real goal?
@@Darkmattermonkey77well its simply faster and easier to communicate this way, what is the alternative, sending mail through the mailbox?
For myself and a couple of my friends, the change where you can't even view a tweet without logging in was the nail in the coffin for us because we only even briefly visited via other sites. The actual scroll limits don't even matter. I can proudly say that I probably haven't even hit that 300 post limit since Twitter came out.
How about just quitting it? Like we're all proud that you're working the program but you could just stop using it and not be concerned with it.
The Firefox extension "Break through twitter login wall" does exactly what is advertised if you're interested in that
It takes about 2 minutes to set up a Twitter account you troglodyte
@@sikozen he already didn’t use the app itself it and announced that accessing it isn’t even a consideration now with the login requirement from clicking a link from another site. He can’t quit what he doesn’t “use.”
@@sikozenbro didn't even read the whole short paragraph
I feel like the one thing that I haven’t heard anyone talk about yet is the good uses of data scraping. In some of my data classes we used Twitter API to scrape and do research in an academic sense. Same thing with Reddit’s API
Limiting social media addiction is actually a net positive in my eyes.
I think it's more than just data scraping. Last I knew they were also refusing to pay a big Google contract for server infrastructure that would kick them off some services at the end of June. I know they were trying to move stuff off that infrastructure but massively behind schedule. Seems more likely that it's to prevent complete failure while they try to fix that stuff and Elon is pushing the blame off on data scraping to look better than "hey we didn't pay our contract and now the platform is crumbling"
I really hope they get that contract. But at the same time it’s Twitter and we all know Twitter must die.
I exposed charlie
In that lawsuit it literally says 'Elon does not pay rent' like, on principle. I guess getting evicted is for poor people.
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@@DeonardoYFGAI exposed myself to your mom last night
Personally I want them to rate limit everyone to 1 post a day. 😂
Elon secretely saving humanity.
Same
True and/or based
I like your content
Shut up
Twitter was never in good health, and was mortally wounded when the purchase went through, its just bleeding out slowly.
I am happy that I deleted my twitter account a few months ago considering the hellfire that is happening on twitter today.
I entirely agree with Charlie at around 5:25 every poor decision twitter makes essentially effects artists, small businesses, and journalists the most, aside from Twitter employees themselves of course.
@@CathrineMacNiel Your smug reply makes no sense. Why would you opt to buy a domain, subscribe to a hosting service, maintain the site, pay for the database, and buy ads with unacceptable click-conversion rates when you can ride on the coattails of a platform that can deliver your content to a curated demographic?
Not to mention that your site would be decentralized from other social media, so your users would need to create accounts on your random site just to engage with your content. That just doesn’t work for smaller artists. If smaller content creators struggle to keep their Discord servers alive, try to convince me they can sustain a community on a self-hosted blog.
@@UsernameUsername0000exactly! A lot of people rely on Twitter for work, including people that I watch on yt, and there aren't many good replacements for all their supporters to now move to that has the same functions.
@UsernameUsername0000 while I do agree with you, I wonder if Twitter dying is a net good for humanity. People need to spend less time online
Someone on tumblr commented that when they resurrected their old account, they where shocked to see the amount of likes and re-blogs they had accrued in the four years they had been gone.
I get that Twitter was the replacement but tumblr genuinely has better interactions and click through then Twitter. Especially now with the Twitter/Reddit refugees that came over
@@marcosramirez2278 I agree. And so many people say they feel worse after being on twitter as people can be very toxic and/or extreme, so it would definitely be good in that sense.
I’m really impressed by Elon Musk’s sheer dedication to destroying his own site, it’s almost like he’s doing it on purpose
Real.
He's a hero
I would agree w that but he’s never been successful w what he wants before so it seems unlikely this is on purpose
So many things dying in 2023 like:
- Rick & Morty
- M&M’s
- Billy Mitchell
- RUclips CEO
- Kwite
- PointCrow
- FaZe
- Bud Light
- CJ Dook
- Monster Energy
- Twitter Verified Badges
- Mizzy
- Tfue
- Twitch
- Reddit
- Colleen Vlogs
- Elemental
@@ThisGuyDannyyyKwite?
I wonder if those 600 posts include the 400 ads you scroll past...
Twitter is a boss found in the Caelid Wilds, on account of how rotted it is
elon literally helping people get over their twitter addiction
a true saint
Lol
I agree, this is a blessing.
Elon “rewrite the stack” musk
He’s helping Macron censor dissent to stifle mobilisation in France. Twitter will be back to normal once things have died. Only last month Elon similarly helped Erdogan in Turkey with censorship of dissent before election.
Wut abt coomers
I cannot express how devastated I am that twitter keeps getting worse. It was my largest platform for my art commissions and "business" if you will. I've abandoned all hope of being an artist full time simply because ALL social media platforms are getting worse for small artists and businesses. It's not made to find new things anymore. It's only made for cheap clicks and pennies.
What about ArtStation and Behance? That's where the actual pros check for hires
@@Clyman974way smaller audience and you cant reach as many people
@@Clyman974 Heard artstation got overrun by ai crap
I used twitter for a while last year and yeah, I must say on the artist side, algorithm, interaction ability and post structure were fantastic.
Well if you need one, FA is an option. If you need one
Charlies videos hit hard when it’s 2:47 am on a Tuesday when you have a road trip in the morning.
Twitter: Provide hourly file dumps of all tweets. That's cheap and your website won't get scraped.
The part of this that annoys me the most is that the promoted tweets (the ads) are going to count. So having an ad every 3 tweets makes it so you have so many less to view
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That's also bad for Twitter since companies won't bother advertising to a place where their ads won't reach anyone
I love the Elon Musk Fanboys one week he's a genius and the next week they're mad at him
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At this rate it's going to take him 50 years to break even from buying it
@@thecloneguyzhe will never break even. He will run twitter into the ground, and have wasted 50 billion dollars. And for this, he is a genuine hero. I hope he buys reddit next.
@@PepsiMagtreddits already dead too lmao, dont worry
I feel so much sympathy for all the addicts that have to go through withdrawal
Imagine how many burner SIMs they're going through right now.
I love it 💀 social media shouldn’t be used for income and it gets people to touch grass and get a real job and life
It took me three hours of screen time on my phone before I got limited as a non verified user. These fucking clowns crying about rate limits after browsing for what, 15 minutes? These people out here are actually insane.
@@Ahhahhhsiisisapparently using social media when you have free time is not having a job
@@Ahhahhhsiisisso what your saying is people like Charlie and some of most famous celebrities on the planet who use Twitter to promote their content shouldn’t be able to use it to promote their content?
The way he keep slightly increasing the limit makes me think that when the limit hit the point where users stop complaining or the amount of complaints are low enough to the acceptable level, he might make that limit permanent.
When they made the API difficult to use, people went to basically automating a bunch of tabs to download everything they want - but that creates a much greater burden on their servers. Speaking of servers - this happened the day after the final day for Twitter to pay for Google's cloud service support. Also, the limit was so poorly enforced that when people hit their limit they continue to send GET requests to twitter at a rapid rate. This also comes at the same time a lot of platforms are realizing that they've been hosting the data used to train "AI" and they're not getting a cut. Also, it looks like Musk is operating as a weird enshitification vanguard, he'll do something terrible and a few months later one of the other giants will feel like they can give it a shot too. That's important because the end of the near-zero interest rate era means every part of the internet you're familiar with is going to provide a much worse and more expensive experience for consumers and business partners.
The end of near zero interest rate? All we need is another president like Trump and they will come back down. Matter fact, you should thank him for that. People can say whatever they want about him but he made sure the economy was booming.
@@adambreezy251 The president doesn't set the interest rates. The federal reserve does. The zero interest rate environment was not a good thing, it led to a ton of people investing in stupid bullshit instead of productive businesses. It also was not sustainable and the longer we stayed in that state the harder the shock was going to be whenever we inevitably needed to deal with inflation again. If you want anyone with a shred of critical thinking to respect your opinions don't ascribe an entire economy's performance to who occupies the presidency. It's the most classic tell in the book that someone doesn't know what they're talking about. You sound like a peasant who believes having the rightful king on the throne will bring good harvests.
@@adambreezy251 he did also significantly increased the national debt to the largest point it's been since 1945 and he became president at the height of the economic boom
As someone who is addicted to twitter and at the same time doesn’t have a twitter account I am happy that Twitter has decided to end the addiction for me by not being able to see tweets because I don’t have an account. It’s like being in the presence of heroin but not actually taking it
You're clearly not an actual addict who's been in the presence of their drug of choice. This is nothing even close to that.
@@Rock48100 Really? I thought for sure he was a major drug lord that had a crippling heroin addiction.
Theres way too many sexual contents on there as well... Too many kids on Twitter get exposed to insane stuffs
Bruĥ
I delete my twitter account every month, take a month long break then start a new account. It’s great it resets the algorithm and it makes you really thankful for what you have, whether it be limitless access to information or freedom from the allures of social crack-media. Try it for yourselves 😉
The worst thing about this is the Twitter users are gonna start to head outside and we're gonna have to deal with them..
Real life has a way of slapping sense into people. Have faith, I think they'll be cured of the stupid right quick
Twitter addicts will just make new accounts to bypass the limit. This is the same thing with Reddit, when subs blacked out or did the stupid john oliver stuff the users didn't leave the site, the people that said they'd leave the site when the 3rd party apps were disabled, guess where the are? Still on reddit. It takes people who are addicted a strong will to quit their addiction and let's be honest, losers on the internet are not that strong willed.
its gonna be worse than reddittors tryna be Rick Sanchez irl but end up being massive Jerry losers.
now we will have ppl imagining an entire conversation in their alternate reality and be mad at nothing and screaming at us like a gf whos bf cheated on her in her dream
Nah dw, many of those twitter users act tough on the internet to make up for their social deficiencies in life.
Nah. They'll just go elsewhere.
How kind of Twitter to start weening people off of itself
Instagram and to some point, tumblr, and some other sites do that (or worse, don't tell you till you're part of the way through reading and logging in will disrupt your progress) and i will usually just close out, despite having an account because what i wanted to see was just not worth losing my place and renavigating everything
It's hilarious how quickly Zuckerberg announced his own alternative to Twitter the minute Elon made that tweet, it's as if he had it ready for a while and was just waiting for the perfect time lol
Not only elon lose a mma fight by forfeit. Mark another loser dealt another blow to him.
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
@@Punchmadedev.?
Zuck is a genius, he's probably been waiting for this since before elon took over. Twitter was on a huge downfall.
@@FreezermansaccountnoI wouldn’t call investing heavily into the metaverse genius on his part
Twitter has been struggling for a while now but this is probably the nail in the coffin. What advertiser is going to want to pay for ads that wont get seen due to limits?
Its like Elon saw Reddit's mistake and wanted to outdo it.
Your comment proves you don't know what you're talking about. You're not going to be paying if you aren't getting impressions / clicks. You don't pay for advertisements on the internet the same way that you pay for an ad to be on a billboard. Unless it's a static website and you're paying to put an old-school banner up..
@@mitchell10394 actually he does, if twitter completely blocks all access to the feed after the limit there would be a downtime between when the feed is down to when the daily limit is replenished where ad companies can not run ads and make money. Why continue to do buisness with a social media that hard limits your profitability that way? The literal point of advertising is getting your product/service seen by as many people as possible, limiting the possible outreach literally screws over the whole premise of advertising to begin with.
It might encourage advertiser's to pay for ads assuming more money = more impressions. Many companies will compete for the decreased number of time for each user. I hope I'm getting my point across, sorry for any confusion.
@averagebum7449 They aren't gonna do that, though, since there's gonna be less overall impressions. They'll just move to other platforms
@@louiepikmin3184 good point
Speedrunning Twitter accounts was something I didn’t see coming
To counter your earlier point, Instagram has effectively locked people out unless you have an account.
So it's a social media that limits the amount of socializing you can do? I'm really amazed at the decisions some people take
You can socialize... outside?
@@archersterling6726 you’re choosing not to see the point
Touch grass lmao, socialize in the real world, it's only artists,journalists and companies that will get affected
Mobile games do this a lot, and they gain A LOT of money this way
calling whatever people do on twitter "socialising" is giving a bit too much credit
it actually can go even faster because it also counts replies as posts. Meaning if you do click on a tweet that has a large number of replies, it throws them in, then you go back to your home, oh also it counts YOUR OWN POSTS too.
Even stupider is the fact that when you hit that limit, the browser keeps trying to grab new tweets anyways. In fact it is spamming the servers with requests, meaning they're practically DDOSing themselves too. It's absolutely insane how bad this policy actually is.
Ýup
We gonna have to pay for twitter on the app store soon. Just wait
i agree i’ll be back here when someone makes a video if it does
edit: just changed the meaning of the text
does that mean if I just scrolling without clicking the post, it doesnt count??
@@MbappeDaGoat So twitter becomes the first paid social media on apps store 😂😂 you have to pay for socialization
one of my favorite types of moist cr1tikal vids is Charlie going over the poor decisions companies make
"How does one kill, that which has no life?"
Wow, we've finally reached the point where social media does NOT allows us to be social anymore. I guess it'd be good for reducing habits and stuffs, but what about artists and creators there, it'll limit them like crazy.
Sites like Newgrounds, Pixiv, and... -sigh- Furaffinity are good websites for artists.
@@d34dh4v3n I would not recommend FA. That site is ran by a bunch of disgusting hypocrites
Bro artists can just move to somewhere else, they're flexible, can find a new way to promote their work, not everything have to rely on Twitter :/
@@d34dh4v3nnewgrounds? Haven’t heard that that great name in a long time… ah memories
Yes, I know they can always move somewhere else like most of my pals did. Doesn't change the fact that Twitter is one of the most well-known, and where most default'd when talking about international reach. The websites and platforms y'all mentioned may be available and leagues better than Twitter, but if they have no reach (especially the smaller, local-reliant one where I had most friends with) then it wouldn't matter.
Also didnt change the fact that they're contradicting themselves for being a social media, still.
The absolute irony that this went live the exact day I decided to search artists to order a commission. I barely ever use twitter, but I wanted to buy art and hit the limit before I could decide who to contact.
@@Drak976what
@@Drak976lots of people use twitter to build an audience for their art and do commissions, and a lot of people find good artists to follow and buy from on there
@@Drak976you really thought you did something with that comment
@@Drak976 next time pick a better target
Tf did he mean by that? And then everyone clapped??
I see this as a win since I don’t spend countless hours on Twitter trying to find the next rant to d ride on.
This isn’t to combat data scraping. This is to combat automated tools. For example, tools that delete tweets. Each month, you get access to 3600 tweets in your history. You can no longer delete 3600 in a single go. You could also delete more than this with certain types of automation, but this is now extremely limited. So accounts looking to delete hundreds of thousands of tweets in their history can no longer do it in sweeping changes using automated tools.
This is not to combat bots or third party use of the data. This is to stop the bleeding of users.
I stopped using Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat; and now I feel happier without the negativity of social media fueling my insecurities. I urge people to try it out, even if it’s temporary and I hope it helps with everyone’s mental health.
Thats great, but a lot of people use twitter for their job, or to follow big current events, or for disaster warnings and response. Scrolling through a few reply threads to gauge sentiment is 500 views gone.
Agreed
It's real, I have deactivated all social media accounts, except Twitter since I use twitter to read news, learning and see some drawings from others. I mean people using Twitter are generally smarter than other social media
I wish I can do that but I hardly can get off of social media, even whenever I use social media I feel anxious, when I dont use social media I still feel anxious. I think the only social media(s) that I got rid of last year were snapchat and twitter. I wish I could do the same with tje other two platforms I use since i can see most of my family members on there. But hey good on you.
I deleted twitter. I don’t use Facebook or Insta or watch TV and somehow I’m still very up to date with world news.
The problem to me is that even if we move to a new site, it's unlikely for any new social media site to have just as much international reach as twitter does. I follow lots of Japanese accounts, so even if all English speaking users move to a new site, it's unlikely that the Japanese accounts I follow will move to the same place.
based kaoru pfp
@@reggoo12 based fellow im@s fan
There's no need to move, Twatter has hardly changed. This problem will affect any new site. The days of 'being the product' are waning
this is my problem, i love japanese pokemon artists
Yeah I mean, Twitter has built itself over more than a decade right? So any site that might replace it will likely take several years to build itself up to a similar level
The "not logging in" part is going to be the nail in the coffin, i genuinely believe this.
This hurts social and government services in the US like the National Weather Service, any Parks Department announcements regarding fires or National Park visits, emergency broadcast news, etc. It affects state and federal representatives trying to get announcements out to the people quickly. It affects announcements about campaign results for those who aren't subscribed to something like the New York Times. This actually even affects newspapers and news orgs like NYT, WaPo, Fox, CNN, BBC, and a myriad of other international news outlets.
I don't think Twitter has this luxury like you say they do.
The problem with this is that the only feature in Twitter or the center piece and entertainment is the tweet. It's like RUclips giving you maximum amount of video you can watch per day. That's just borderline insanity
The greatest loss is honestly for the artists that I see there. As an occasional artist on Twitter, this really is going to affect us a lot because of the rate limit exceeding. There are other platforms, yes, but its harder.
Not only thing but I do use the platform to be aware of certain incidents that are occurring in real time (fires, shootings, etc.) Yes people spend a lot of time on Twitter, but there are certain downsides to this new change.
Maybe that Federated thing would be a good idea. Somebody makes one geared towards artists and comments. Get feedback from a bunch of artists in a beta to tweak the design, release the source code so artists if they choose can run their own instance/a group can run an instance so even if the core one goes insane, they can just jettison connections from it and keep posting to their own instance...
Another twitter addict pretending they are somehow morally correct and objectively superior about something they literally have no clue about because they don't like the fact they can't suckle on twitter's teat all day for a little bit. 4
This has to be the most ret*rded thing they've done. "Never go full ret*ard!"
I still can't believe they didn't realize "maybe this is not such a good idea," and rolled it back. People are pissed. If people don't leave now, then when? It's unusable. Most people are not going to pay.
@@syrasmineit’s not a slur
@@syrasmine I found the "democrat"!
I feel bad for artists and small business but there HAS to be an alternative site for artists to get traction eventually. Twitter is such a bad space to showcase and archive art for people but for some god foresaken reason it's become the most successful one. Tumblr shooting itself in the foot continues to be the worst thing to happen to the internet.
Tumblr was a hellscape hahaha. So was twitter when activists ran it and subsidized it. You give up way too much using those services. Way too much. Eventually I imagine Elon will get twitter heading in the right direction. Making it profitable outside of just storing and selling all our data is a good first step
Sadly there's a reason for that and it is pretty easy to understand: twitter wasn't a platform for art. That was it's strongest point. You didn't needed to like art and go out of your way to find it, so that made a lot of people who usually wouldn't look for art find it by "accident" (either some friend retweeted it or something), and attract people more easily. I myself like art but the only real way i find it is through scrolling in instagram, i liked one image an then boom, i found 30 more artist, but i very very rarely would go out of my way to a different platform just to look art for myself.
@@matiasd5226the OG art website used to be tumblr before like 2017… then after tumblr died it was like divided between instagram and twitter but now Elon is killing twt and ig is actively trying to suppress artists by getting rid of the recent posts tab for hashtags and pretty much only investing in reels.
@@jjongjjongiefan7324Imma let u artists in on a little secret
Tumblr isn’t dead
We all just told y’all it was dead so the redditors and twitter users would stay out, but if plenty of artists do commissions on Tumblr
@@sweethysteria8737 Ahahahaha I was wondering if anyone was going to point out the obvious. No no no sweety you probably make actual wholesome art. These people are trying to sell their nsfw furry smut. That's why all the redditors and twitter users are gone. If I just started naming some of the r/subreddits youtube would delete my account again for saying gross stuff.
as a twitter cc, at first i was like "oh this doesn't affect me, i literally go on to post, then log off" but when you mentioned that others won't be able to reach my content, that's kind of a huge issue.
Can't even read a thread on Twitter, navigating through the ads is insane.
Honestly if Twitter is ending, i will really miss the artists that i am following, they all have unique art styles and i just dont know if i will ever find them again
That will hurt much more for those who don’t have an account as well
@@PunishedKrabI'm feeling this, i guess I might manage to find them like in other sites
@@Punchmadedev. hating what ?????? No one here is hating on anything. We are lamenting that we might not be able to see art from our favourites. Not everything is an attack.
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
Tbh if they haven't branched out to other websites ESPECIALLY after all these fiascos it's kinda their own fault they go dark
I just read a theory about what's _actually_ going on that makes sense:
Twitter tried to do something stupid with their API, they messed it up in a way that will take days, so Elon is doing this new "You can only read 600 posts a day" thing as a cover, and he'll say "After hearing your feedback, we've reversed the policy" when it's fixed.
""After hearing your feedback, we've reversed the policy" when it's fixed"
Why would he need to say that? He can just say "the problem is fixed", he implies there is a problem where people are abusing the site, he also says it's temporary. It's obviously gonna go back to normal, that's what temporary means. This is clearly not gonna be the new normal for twitter, pulling 300 comments is something that can be done extremely quickly. It doesn't have to be comments you read, it could be from you scrolling your home feed. You could speedrun it in less than a minute.
@@Death-999 I might be also reading the first part of your comment wrong but I don't think "when it's fixed" is part of the quote, its just "After hearing your feedback, we've reversed the policy"
Wut he never said the new policy is going to be permanent
Elon is doing everything except banning the child p0rn on his website. I haven't seen it but a few people have on their timeline. One of the reasons i deleted the app along with the random politics on the for you page
Musk himself has said this is only temporary
People should be paid to interact with these death trap websites and be given formal charges for facilitation (rather than being punished without charges the way things are at the moment )
I follow a lot of artists, and commission thing from them too. Its awful for this part of the community and there, sadly, isn't a comparable option at the moment.
At this point it's kinda impressive that Elon Musk is able to come up with such creative ideas to truly kill the platform
Real.
He's actually a hero
So many things dying in 2023 like:
- Rick & Morty
- M&M’s
- Billy Mitchell
- RUclips CEO
- Kwite
- PointCrow
- FaZe
- Bud Light
- CJ Dook
- Monster Energy
- Twitter Verified Badges
- Mizzy
- Tfue
- Twitch
- Reddit
- Colleen Vlogs
- Elemental
- Elon Musk
Rich people, am I right?
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
It’s not even about being addicted. As an artist I love seeing other artists work, but you scroll thro so much unnecessary tweets until you find artwork you looking for. And it’s even worse for artists who are trying to grow…
Perhaps it will cause people to be more selective about what they post.
@@Hex-kt2vrnope lol
I use A.I generated art, am I an artist?
@@Bfkcjscbsnjc troll
@@BfkcjscbsnjcNo, you are not making the art so you're not the artist, tho if you use AI for reference and help in drawing your own pieces, then yes you are an artist, it really boils down to if YOU drew it, then you're the artist
I have a feeling that youtube is going to do the same thing sooner or later
Limitng How many vids you can view a day, depending on your account status, new unverified, old unverified, verified, Premium
Yikes
12:22 there is a solution that doesn’t nuke the whole platform: Step 1: do require the account sign-in; Step 2: calculate the rate at which human users stop to read tweets VS the rate at which they’re shown (there is zero chance that a human will read every tweet, but a scraper bot will probably read most/all tweets displayed to it); if an account reads every tweet and at a rate that far exceeds the rate at which a human can read them, it’s a bot. - Twitter does already collect data on whether tweets are shown or interacted with as part of their advertiser-side analytics.
- once potential bot accounts have been identified, they can be blocked (subject to appeal).
Twitter is unlikely to do this of course as blocking scrapers certainly looks like a smokescreen for forcing people to pay money.
Elon Musk, in his grace, hasn’t even allowed people who pay for twitter to use it as much as they want to
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
He also said we would live on Mars by now
@@hoze1235he overestimated the building process of a single rocket ship
And that did not account for launching calculation and landing calculations and preparation
Bro I see u everyday
@@p-__ 🚨 THIS COMMENTER HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS PROMOTING MALICIOUS CONTENT! 🚨
⚠ DO NOT ENGAGE THIS ACCOUNT AND MOVE ON. ⚠
I'll never cease to be amazed by Charlie's ability to make insanely specific yet appropriate analogies.
So many things dying in 2023 like:
- Rick & Morty
- M&M’s
- Billy Mitchell
- RUclips CEO
- Kwite
- PointCrow
- FaZe
- Bud Light
- CJ Dook
- Monster Energy
- Twitter Verified Badges
- Mizzy
- Tfue
- Twitch
- Reddit
- Colleen Vlogs
- Elemental
- Elon Musk
- Twomad
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
@@ThisGuyDannyyyAlan Arkin
@@p-__nope, checked
@davidlol7654 i chose death
I think I saw someone say that even if you were verified and were scrolling through your feed on average, it would take you around 16 hours to reach the 6,000 post limit. Pretty insane if verified users are reaching that limit.
Gt out your popcorn guys, it's the weekly "[insert social media platform] is dying" video lol
It's always Twitter.
@@HestnetIT Twitter is always dying but for some reason it never finishes dying
This is unsurprisingly consistent with everything Elon's done at Twitter. Yes these are real issues he's trying to solve, but the solutions are so laughably bad it's destroying the platform completely
Elon should have hired professionals and have them help him make these decisions And not do them by him self And if he is getting help the helpers are probably not good at their job
Don’t bite the hand that feeds you
@@THEONEANDONLYJOSEPH it’s very likely he fired the people whose jobs it was to tell him it was a bad idea
@@notjohn5988 Probably sadly for him cause he is going to lose money Egos are bad for cash
@@notjohn5988 so he has nobody to blame but him xd
This is absolutely terrible for twitter artists, without a proper platform like twitter to grow their audience and share their art on, it will be so much more difficult doing art for a living.
As an artist myself who primarily relies on Twitter, this is genuinely terrifying. Don't know what to do if this really is the end tbh
There are Nd will be plenty of things to take it's place. Like when a tree falls in the forest, others take its place.
Compound that with Ai art and its now a horrible time to be an online artist
My farts are better than Charlie's farts.
Learn to code
Charlie is the only creator who can make me watch a video about a topic that I could not care less for
I'm kinda late to this, but I did find something odd with the Twitter limit. If you don't have an account or aren't logged in but use the Twitter app on your phone. This limit seemingly doesn't apply at all, I've experienced no throttling or that notification at all and straight up "doom scrolled" mutahar's feed to see if I'd hit a limit. Mind you I don't have a Twitter account but food for thought.
I feel super bad for artists, twitter has been really the only good platform for so many people not because its a peerless product, but because it is global and universal. This may finally be what forces me off the hellhole that is twitter, I just wished a suitable alternative existed and I will certainly miss alot of content I enjoy.
Ive deleted twitter but for the 2 years i was on the app i rarely came across artists. I didn't even know that it was a primary place for artists to post their work.
@@MbappeDaGoat nsfw artists, and also sfw artists used twitter as a main way for both just engagement with community, getting more fans, and also selling art, this going down is crazy for people who have drawing or selling art as a secondary source of income, and they'd need to switch to shit like deviant art lol
I don’t feel bad, I don’t use Twitter and never will.
It’s filled with cancer and idiots.
I hope it stays this way and inevitably dies like it should have ages ago.
@@MbappeDaGoat most artist (i think) are from anime and game fanbases. i follow a lot of genshin, star rail and anime content and i come across at least 15 artists a day.
I only have my Twt account to talk with my artist friends, and dedicate my account to retweeting Blaziken fanart (plus my personal stuff like my own art and laughing at people, but that’s 10% of it). This rate limiting thing is kinda destroying the point, even if it was temporary. I'll have to get my friends onto other places we can communicate more often.
All these massive social media sites like Reddit and twitter getting more and more unpopular is a good thing to happen this year
the only massive problem here is you
Even better would be TikTok, but that's just getting more popular.
But if there’s a max exodus, it’s doom for other SM sites as Reddit and Twitter Brain rots flock to their sites. Remember when Tumblr had its exodus? Yeah I want to forget too.
My farts are better than Charlie’s farts 💨
not really. where will i follow all my art friends who only use twitter lol. they are panicking on where to move
My assumption is this was to find the bots running on dead servers and block their access. The biggest bot offenders likely hit their rate within microseconds and continuously tried making requests for hours. It's probably a tactic to discourage such bot runners from continuing with their methods, maybe block the biggest networks, and simultaneously experimenting with limiting interaction much like how mobile games do now, provide a few minutes of gameplay before they hit massive artificial paywalls and long timers.
He was probably progressively testing which accounts were hitting the limits too quickly to ban the bad ones.
He sets the limit low, some accounts hit the limit immediately, but then only after a certain amount of time will the most addicted human Twitter users in each category start complaining about increasing the limit.