How To Make Welding Table Fixture Clamps | Bessey Clamp
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On this episode of The Fab Forums I go over how I made some welding table clamps out of some Harbor Freight Bessey clamps. These things work awesome. Hope you dig it.
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Great idea. A lot cheaper than clamps made for fab tables!
Thanks, I'm new to welding, having only dabbled with it before. Recently bought a similar table with a 40 piece clamp set on sale, but this is a good way to get a bunch of extra clamps. Cheers
Thanks for killing that buzz. Has been driving me nuts for a while!
Great ideas as well.
I just watched another channel and the bloke did the same thing trying to get the end off the clamp. A lot quicker and easier just to cut it off just above the end.
Visited a relative, Grant, in Marysville, Michigan some years ago. He took me out for a ride in his Wills Gray Goose. Impressive engineering for an early 20's car.
Im gonna knock some of those up for my woodwork bench. What a great fixture.
Thanks for the simple, and clear explanation. Always wondered how they worked. Baffled me, kinda like magic, LOL.
lol yeah they do work like magic
Just went and bought some of these clamps for my welding table.com unit, thanks for the tips
Thanks for sharing this with us 🙏🏼
Thanks great information super simple design
amazing thinking great vid .gonna have to hop on making some of these soon
Thank you!
just finished building my first welding table now onto those great clamps!!
Was gonna post a pic of my table but can't find anyway to load it up.
Thanks! For sharing! 🤙🏻
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
thanks
great idea cheers
Nice work!
Great information my friend. Thank you.
no problem
good video..thanks
Thanks for sharing! I am in the pricess of makings these clamps. Thanks for the tip about welding them at an angle.
I have a bunch of these Harbor Freight clamps... not on Welding Table or anything but they're actually pretty good... and if any of them ever crap out on you get a new one for 4 bucks
+Craig Cundiff For sure
Very Good!..
Dude that table setup is dope. Im definitely going to start saving up. Also you can really tell you listen to your viewers and I just wanna say thanks for what your doin bro.
+DG Fabrication thanks man
Chucking genius
lol
приятно и познавательно смотреть твои видео !!!
Very Nice!
thanks
Nice shop. Thanks man.
+Japers Trills thanks
I made some but used 5/8" shoulder bolts. Very precise
Hi José
Can u Tell me the size of your table holes ? If the bolt is 5/8 16mm , the hole is 16.2mm ?
Nice video. Thanks.
thanks for watching
Clever idea 💡 thanks 🙏🏻 for sharing. I’ll give this a crack fasure.
I am in the process of building my certi-flat 30x30 table and I think I'll make a set of clamps to use before I weld up the base kit. Thank you for the information.
BTW, I know this video is almost 3 years old, but I'll answer some questions that I saw in the comments... The holes in the certi-flat table are standard 16mm holes. If you purchase one of the certi-flat fixtures, they will come with 16mm shoulder bolts for mounting. 5/8" = 15.875mm. This means that the 5/8" round stock, shoulder bolts, and other hardware will work as well as any that uses 16mm. The holes are in a grid pattern 2" (on center) apart in the perpendicular plane and 2.828" (on center) in the diagonal plane. (Used the Pythagorean Theorem: c^2=a^2+b^2). The fabBlock tables come standard at 1/4" thick hot-rolled steel, with the option of 3/8" & 1/2". There are other table styles they sell that are a bit different and they may have a thinner top. I would not recommend this style of clamp in a table top that is less than 1/4" thick.
The angle required to make this clamp work is called the "cant". It is the angle from vertical required for the clamp to work. If you know what a holdfast is and how to use it, then you will understand why this slight angle is necessary. In woodworking, some of the workbenches have dog holes in them, similar to this welding table. The woodworking workbench is much thicker, usually between 2.5" and 6"+ depending on the style and the maker's needs. A holdfast is a piece of bent round stock just a bit past 90°, shaped like a Greek capital letter lambda. The tip of the upper end of the holdfast is hammered flat. This is what is placed on the work piece to clamp. The other end is placed into the dog hole of the workbench. The woodworker then strikes the holdfast at the bend, driving it into the dog hole at an angle. This angle causes the holdfast to grip the dog hole with more surface area, causing a much greater clamping force. If the holdfast head was not angled past 90°, the part in the dog hole would not be at an angle and would not hold. I've seen a couple of woodworkers pick up a large work bench using a hoist and 4 holdfasts, one in each corner. The clamp described in this video works the same way, but on a much smaller scale. Since the table surface is only 1/4" thick, the cant does not need to be that much of an angle for it to grip in the hole.
For those who noticed that the table was moving, especially when he was testing the clamping force on the 4x4, the table can be mounted on casters. I suspect that this was the case for his table. Also, if you purchase the base kit from weldtables.com, it comes with dual locking casters - they lock the caster from rolling and from pivoting. This is a very stable platform with the casters locked, but it will never be as solid as a table mounted to a fixed surface.
The tables can be found at: weldtables.com
(disclaimer: I am not affiliated with this channel or with weldtables.com. I am just a consumer who did his due-diligence prior to making this substantial purchase. I came here to see how to make the clamps...)
I made some clamps with 5/8 bolts for my 16mm weld table and the don’t work. There is too much play and the clamps won’t grab. Any ideas how to fix this? Paint or powder coat?
@@derekbell5333 easy fix......... with calipers....find that hole exact size.....grab roundstock(1/16 smaller diamter)......cut off the crap round sloppy roundstock and re-weld new round stck with a snug fit....done?
thanks belatedly for your comprehensive post.... a lot more useful than the original video.
One RUclipsr tp another great job
We just switched to led strip lights at work, it makes such a difference!
yeah but not cheap
We just replaced the tubes instead our getting complete led units to keep the cost down. Still not cheap though
Niiiice, thank you!
excelente mesa de trabajo, se acomoda muy bien. saludos desde Apodaca Nuevo Leon Mexico.
thanks
Ty. Great
Kyle Thank you for the clamp explanation! Not only I now know how it works but how to build them cheaply! Now I really want one of those tables! UGH! This channel is going to cost me! LOL
lol
Great idea, I was looking at the Bessey clamps for small wood miterbox but it cost 125 Dollars for a set of 2.... I will find something cheap and do what you did :)
This works
Thats kooler than dang it!!!
yeah very simple
Great job man. Simplicity doesn't mean its easy
thanks
The Fab Forums i wanna lear to weld. I have a few projects in mind, but i need learn more about this field. I love your channel and how well you explain the procedure
Hey man. Really like the clamp modifications, you can never have too many styles. Just wanted to let you know these are called F style or f bar clamps. Bessey is a name brand.
gotcha
Theng you..
That's a nice cheap solution. Name brand welding clamps have always seemed overpriced for use outside of a production shop. When I built my certiflat table I ended up buying the clamps for the stronghand fixturepoint table. If I remember correctly the hold down clamps were less than $20 and they also have Vblocks, spacers, and stops that work well with these tables.
yeah I have seen those. not sure if I am going to buy some or try to make my own style
Awesome
thanks
SAAHWEET!!
they work great
Video on the LED upgrades would be cool. I've got old Florescent lights in my shop and am looking to update.
I will see what I can do
I still want a welding table.....guess I'll have to build my own.
yeah for sure
with the gclamp ones wels a nut on the moving part then you can drive them down and up with a drill ect...
A simple solution is the best solution. And if that solution is also inexpensive, that's even better. Nice job on the clamps, man! BTW, I'm gonna miss that hum. Honestly didn't notice until you mentioned it, then it seemed very obvious. haha.
lol
These are known as F- Clamps in the woodworking community and if one breaks you can take it back to HF and no questions asked they will replace it (without a receipt even) which is as far as i know, a lot more than Bessey can offer....through the big box anyway. You cant go wrong with these cheapo's and i mostly mean price-wise as i haven't broke but one yet in two years of use and i haveabout 20 of em.
you could weld tee nuts on them also
Nice. But more interested in your angle device on your table u used
I did the same thing as soon as i got my fixture table
yeah you got to have some kind of clamps for sure
Great vid and info! Thank You! Is that a wood burning stove in back? What kind is it? My garage gets damn cold in winter!
on the old C clamp tack a nut on the top so your nut driver on a drill can run it up ad down fast
Do you know if these types of clamps would work in a 3/16” welding table? Thanks for sharing your videos!
I see a new project in my near future lol
They work awesome
great vid what was you using for big wire for welding
What song is played at the end. Great working in the shop music.
Check out Vocha Alloy's video called Cheap alternative to a Festool clamp. It basically bends a hook on the end instead of the bind method. ;-)
I've already seen a video this dated almost a week earlier.
good job, what is the thickness of the welding table?
What size hole is in the table? You mention the bolt is 5/8" so is the hole in the table metric so it is ever so slightly larger?
So you put your bessey rod into a lot of slots on that table and then pull out real easy even if you got wood.
do you think it would work on a 3/8 table ? I'm guessing your table is 1/2, would there be enough bind in 3/8 table for the clamp to work?
Kyle, where you been man? Last post was way back in December. Hope everything is well with you and yours!
I post weekly
i fucks with it lol good stuff!!!
Hi, what is the thickness of the sheet metal the table is made of? is stiff?
looks like you need to sturdy up those table legs.. got more shake than my grandfather with parkinsons
+Andrew Browner nah
That’s what I noticed
Do the Harbor Freight clamps provide an unbroken electrical connection from table to work so they can be used as a ground?
yeah
What is the thickness of the table?
A guy called wesly treat had same idea .
They have stronger ones cheap price and Brandon lund welding channel made his but he made his with shoulder bolts which also made stops with them to
I have a serious clamp addiction Kyle I think I need help
lol
Looks like I’m going to harbor freight
Can u Tell me the size of the table holes? If the bolt is 16mm (5/8) How about the holes?
Great idea! PS: Is it wrong that the only things I weld is more welding tools/jigs etc? :D
nope
sure there's a video somewhere you did, but where'd you get your table? and price?
yeah its from weldtables.com...this particular table is around $1000 ruclips.net/video/6emb5wysHos/видео.html
Doesn't seem solid at all when you were yanking on the 4x4 and the entire table was wobbling. You have it mounted on casters or something?
Hello
What is the price to make a RIGHT corner, I saw it on the clip.
It is very functional
not sure I know what your talking about
triangle - right angle is used for welding
How did you slot the rod?
I think I used my bandsaw
If you want to use something much faster , you should checkout this guys website. He makes a toggle clamp for these welding tables , I think its called (clampplus).
These harbor freight clamps have a tendency to get loose on the back side where the grooves are so they don't always stay tight. Just something I've come across.
gotcha
How did your friends drift wagon tern out
It turned out nice....we plan to do an update soon
I’m designing my 76 mustang II and I really like your channel and I like the metal work you and your friend do.
What kind of table is that sir?
certiflat from weldtables.com
The video "starts" immediately BUT the how-to not til 3:42. Jump ahead and skip the schspiel!
Your wife let you go outside with that haircut?
Just messing with you. Love your videos.
lol...she dont care
Why is your table so shaky?
toggle or vise-grip style clamps are way faster., and there are a ton of really useful mods you can do. Harbor freight is good for some things, but good quality clamps is not one of them. Over time that jaw will randomly stop gripping the bar as well. Now, I totally get the need to do something on the less expensive side. But you can fab better clamps by seeing the good stuff in action. The sliding adjustable clamp you were trying to remember the name for is a T-post clamp. Go watch this video. ruclips.net/video/WP7J8n3rw2k/видео.html
Nice job Kyle. I like your style. I did the same thing: ruclips.net/video/UzrWfJF1gJ0/видео.html Another thing Ive added is a 1-2' length of square stock with a appropriate sized stud on the bottom that can be placed into a hole and used to clamp items to, Its just a cheap way to fixture stuff that has to be held at an odd angle to the work piece. See you later!
nice ! they come in handy for sure
I was thinking about taking 2 of the 5/8 dowels that would slide into two adjacent holes and threading some all thread through some square stock on the horizontal plane (welding the square stock to both dowels 90 degrees out from the threaded hole in the square stock). This would let you have some adjustment to your stops because you never know when you'll need to fixture something up to a 1/16" .... kinda hard to do that with the spread without having something adjustable to drop in. ... Does this make sense?
Just now thinking about it, lay one of those clamps on its side and weld on dowel in the end and the second one to slide into the next hole. Done (ish).
Anybody know?
yeah
The Fab Forums can you tell me then please? The name of the song as your video ended?
Its just stock audio from the youtube audio library
The Fab Forums oh okay thx. Great job on all your vids too.
Sorry to be that guy but...technically they are an "F" Clamp and Bessey is a company that makes several styles of high quality clamps. I just thought it might help when searching online for them.
its only an F clamp before I modify it. I was reffering to the table fixture clamp when I said Bessy Clamp. weldtables.com/collections/clamps-accessories/products/bessey-16mm-welding-table-clamp-composite-handle-variable-throat