i remember playing the GBA version, on the kefka battle i used the slots just for fun, and i got the instakill one, 10/10 even didnt see the moves kefka had
So what did you think of the list? It does remove the "random" function for this particular one but I did mention the random list if I were to make one later in the video if that's what you want to see. I could do one for Pixel Remaster but the video would've been redundant aside from order. Let me know!
The Subscribe slots was pretty good. 😝👍 I appreciate the addition of the non-manipulated list at the end, since not everyone will be going through that. Sometimes, you just gotta take a gamble. 😉
Thanks for covering what the list would be were it not for slot manipulation, at least I was definitely thinking it. I remember back in the SNES before internet I didn't even know that slot manipulation was possible so didn't really see Setzer as special. I think he was possibly the least played character back in my original run.
i liked doing this list to give insight into the inner workings of the game and ability itself, but there are also ppl who like to play more "intended" so I felt it was needed to add another list for the pure gamblers
Setzer comes into his own for me in the late game even without slot manipulation. Give him the Fixed Dice and the Master's Scroll and watch him play craps for keeps. Fixed Dice are coded to do damage based on the results of the dice rolls, multiplied by Setzer's level, and then doubled; which bypasses the Master's Scroll's 1/2 damage penalty and ignores defense. If Setzer is Berserked, damage is increased by 50%, and if you roll a triple of the same number, damage is multiplied again by one of the results. You will get dud rolls every now and again, but if RNG is in your favor you can also get at least 2 9999 damage rolls.
Just found your channel as replaying FFVI on switch for the first time since my SNES days. Subscribed for the future. BTW do you really just name your characters by their initial? 🤣
Most of the footage for this is taken from my speedruns or speedrun file, and making their name 1 character saves a ton of time throughout the run haha
Now goes Mog's dances and that's all the doable Best to Worst with FFVI. Terra, and Celes special command is simple and unique, Strago and Gau are too much and very situational to be covered, Locke and Relm depends on the enemy and also can be upgraded with items to get beter special commands(by the way, Setzer can change his slots to trow gil with an item, just saying), and Shadow can throw almost anything in the inventory. Umaro is free anyways, and Gogo does whatever you put him to, so in his cae it would be a top of special commands itself.
Oooh! This was a fun list. I don't pause buffer and the randomizers I play scramble the rng to stop Joker Doom shenanigans. Based on the odds I can usually mash A and get 7-Flush or Chocobop reliably. Sometimes I get to Summon something (usually Crusader lol)
I do but unless a move is a attack that hits all enemies at once Gau tends to use those spells on HIMSELF only over and over that's why when doing the INFINITE LOOP before the first Ultros battle BUT after he's beaten its best if Celes FIRST joins at lv 48 with Vanish since Gau tends to use the Vanish rage either constantly on HIMSELF or a party member that's already Vanished. Yes most of those loop enemies only use Physical hits so without Banon in the party its best if Celes can Vanish the party 1 a time the RANDOM slot for summon Phantom isn't reliable at all and neither is Gau using the Vanish using Rage (1 of the Zozo enemies has that spell) but it still single target.
Hey, new subscriber who was pulled in by these rankings. I have a suggestion for a future ranking I think would be cool and useful. So, I've played this game probably a dozen times in my life, once every couple of years, and I know it pretty well but not, like, speedrunner-LLG-well. It's even in my username. But one thing I've never learned is what Gau's best rages are and why/where they're valuable. I know he can be incredibly powerful, especially exploiting weaknesses, but without having memorized most enemy weaknesses and the many Rage behaviors, I've mostly ignored him across my many playrhroughs. Obviously you can't rank every Rage, but maybe you could do a top 10 and explain why and where each is useful? Maybe also factoring in how late in the game you can first earn them? I'd love that and it seems pretty in line for this series. Good videos! ✌️
The worst ability...summon a random Esper. Why would you say that?...if it summons Crusader you get killed for a good chunk of the game.(as the video shows happening.) Low odds, but I remember being blown up by purifier as a result of a random Esper summon. I have never forgiven Setzer since. He and Umaro get left on the ship for a reason.
The first time I got 3 bars, I got crusader and I hadn't saved in forever. I was devastated. Also, do you know if it's on purpose that you tend to get rare slots only if the battle is about to be over anyway? I'm pretty sure it is, I've had it happen countless times. I'll get the mega flare, but then think "oh, Locke is about to kill this enemy" and he does lol.
While the Joker doom KILL all enemies version is his best slot I could never rig it and in the PIXEL version Auto battle like 99% of the time when it lands on Joker doom would be the kill your OWN party with it. While normally Intangirs can't be killed by the NORMAL death spell or the Rhodox/Mu rage the kill all enemies Joker doom its NOT immune to it.
This made me realize how many of these I've never actually seen, because I never use Setzer. Other party members like Edgar and Sabin are just too good to waste a slot on him for me.
I too prefer far more consistent characters. Screw this chaos stuff I can't plan a strategy around. I put Setzer and Umaro on the bench for the final dungeon for this reason. I always dislike the gamblers characters, as they seem to randomly kill me in each game. Setzer did with Crusader early on, like WHAT? Cait Sith did the same with whatever the instant death ability is for his limit break, and I refuse to use him anymore after that.
In desperation I finally triggered the summon slot as a wee lad in this game's heyday, before the World of Ruin. I was stoked thinking I'd get Bahamut or something devastating. Instead I got Crusader and watched three dudes blow shit apart. I thought I would win the battle. I saw the 3k damage to enemies and was like "HELL YEAH!" Then saw the 2k to my lv 25-ish party and them all get wiped out immediately. After that I never wanted to use the summon slot again.
Yeah it really soured me on using Setzer. I was deep a dungeon and it went off, killing my party. I hadn't quite made to the save yet and had do all over.
My list would look different but that's because of the casual experience. I was only ever to get joker doom version 1 once and while I laughed cuz it was so close it also was just like dammit. I never got the good joker doom.
@@Bdewd have you ever done videos on imp armor and some more obscure armor like mirage vest and Thornlet you can get by metamorphosing certain characters?
@@veghesther3204 ragnorak often didn’t work but it was the only way to get some items or get more than one. Experience eggs, miracle (marvel shoes) ribbons etc. miracle shoes gives you protect, she’ll, regen, and haste, and ribbon protects you from all status ailments.
Fun list. Tbh I really wish there were relics to guarantee some slots. I think pixel remaster nerfed Setzer too much. All though unintentionally Had there been a relic guaranteeing flush/dive bomb etc I think Setzer would had been a much more effective charachter
The game purposely will not allow you to get all 7s on skill. it has a RNG factor to it. You can play it on an emulator and slow the game down to frame by frame and even though you'll easily get perfect timing, the game will still slide to the next icon. All other combos are 100% possible via skill
that's why i was mentioning unless you throw an echo screen you cant get it off the hop. funny how a single item makes the slots give you the most broken ability in the game (imo) and not throwing it means you physically can't get it
@@clydecash5659 im not particularly knowledgeable on the inner working of PR slots but early on we were trying to do the GBA style manip via during a spell cast but it was awkward cuz the pause buffering is bad
@@veghesther3204 Honestly, if you can't pause and manipulate rng. Setzer's slots are basically kinda useless. He only shines if he gets Offering + Genji Glove + Fixed Dice. Other than that, he is probably my most unused party members other than Umaro, and a knockoff Chakra/Mantra.
I did exactly that just WITHOUT the Genji glove with the Fixed Dice he doesn't need a 2nd weapon or to use slots at all. But even at lv 99 its CYAN and Umaro IMHO that are still pure crap. As for Setzer's OTHER skill despite that its easily to have millions of gil unspent the GIL toss skill not only uses up a Relic slot it really won't do 9999 damage to anything either and isn't worth it.
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i remember playing the GBA version, on the kefka battle i used the slots just for fun, and i got the instakill one, 10/10 even didnt see the moves kefka had
That's why i love setzer... he's not afraid to gamble mid battle
A true gambler, through and through.
So what did you think of the list? It does remove the "random" function for this particular one but I did mention the random list if I were to make one later in the video if that's what you want to see. I could do one for Pixel Remaster but the video would've been redundant aside from order. Let me know!
I liked the list, and learned new things about Setzer's slot in the process. I also like how you included the alternate list at the end.
The Subscribe slots was pretty good. 😝👍 I appreciate the addition of the non-manipulated list at the end, since not everyone will be going through that. Sometimes, you just gotta take a gamble. 😉
im not good at animation so it was me trying to get an image to work out and it felt janky but glad it's appreciated!
Thanks for covering what the list would be were it not for slot manipulation, at least I was definitely thinking it. I remember back in the SNES before internet I didn't even know that slot manipulation was possible so didn't really see Setzer as special. I think he was possibly the least played character back in my original run.
i liked doing this list to give insight into the inner workings of the game and ability itself, but there are also ppl who like to play more "intended" so I felt it was needed to add another list for the pure gamblers
Setzer comes into his own for me in the late game even without slot manipulation. Give him the Fixed Dice and the Master's Scroll and watch him play craps for keeps. Fixed Dice are coded to do damage based on the results of the dice rolls, multiplied by Setzer's level, and then doubled; which bypasses the Master's Scroll's 1/2 damage penalty and ignores defense. If Setzer is Berserked, damage is increased by 50%, and if you roll a triple of the same number, damage is multiplied again by one of the results. You will get dud rolls every now and again, but if RNG is in your favor you can also get at least 2 9999 damage rolls.
Seltzer has my favorite in-game sprite so he was on the team in the 1st spot a lot. Cyan and Gau are my favorite characters
The little extra list at the end was a nice touch 👌
So uh... how long until ranking all of Gau's rages?
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That is something you do the best 10 or 20 rages for a list.
This guide is highly legit.
If Xygor vouches for it, must be true. 👍
can't quit
Just found your channel as replaying FFVI on switch for the first time since my SNES days. Subscribed for the future. BTW do you really just name your characters by their initial? 🤣
Most of the footage for this is taken from my speedruns or speedrun file, and making their name 1 character saves a ton of time throughout the run haha
Now goes Mog's dances and that's all the doable Best to Worst with FFVI. Terra, and Celes special command is simple and unique, Strago and Gau are too much and very situational to be covered, Locke and Relm depends on the enemy and also can be upgraded with items to get beter special commands(by the way, Setzer can change his slots to trow gil with an item, just saying), and Shadow can throw almost anything in the inventory. Umaro is free anyways, and Gogo does whatever you put him to, so in his cae it would be a top of special commands itself.
I just used Prismatic Flash because it’s the prettiest attack, does decent damage, and is easy to pull off
Btw I found it funny you called it Prismatic Flush. I get the poker reference but just reminds me of a toilet
Oooh! This was a fun list. I don't pause buffer and the randomizers I play scramble the rng to stop Joker Doom shenanigans. Based on the odds I can usually mash A and get 7-Flush or Chocobop reliably. Sometimes I get to Summon something (usually Crusader lol)
that's why i HAD to include the speedrun crusader clip. it's too golden haha
That's why I don't use the esper SUMMONING items even IT can summon Crusader which even at lv 99 can still kill you.
Do you guys realize Rhinox/Destroyer is a good Rage for Gau, he can use Reraise/Life 3 on his allies SUPER EARLY.
Or Stray Cat which uses the defense piercing Catscratch ability.
@@Anomaly188 I already know that, Stray Cat is known to alot of people but Rhinox, its underrated.
I do but unless a move is a attack that hits all enemies at once Gau tends to use those spells on HIMSELF only over and over that's why when doing the INFINITE LOOP before the first Ultros battle BUT after he's beaten its best if Celes FIRST joins at lv 48 with Vanish since Gau tends to use the Vanish rage either constantly on HIMSELF or a party member that's already Vanished.
Yes most of those loop enemies only use Physical hits so without Banon in the party its best if Celes can Vanish the party 1 a time the RANDOM slot for summon Phantom isn't reliable at all and neither is Gau using the Vanish using Rage (1 of the Zozo enemies has that spell) but it still single target.
Summon scares me. Twice I have gotten Crusader and thrown my controller at my TV.
Hey, new subscriber who was pulled in by these rankings. I have a suggestion for a future ranking I think would be cool and useful.
So, I've played this game probably a dozen times in my life, once every couple of years, and I know it pretty well but not, like, speedrunner-LLG-well. It's even in my username. But one thing I've never learned is what Gau's best rages are and why/where they're valuable. I know he can be incredibly powerful, especially exploiting weaknesses, but without having memorized most enemy weaknesses and the many Rage behaviors, I've mostly ignored him across my many playrhroughs.
Obviously you can't rank every Rage, but maybe you could do a top 10 and explain why and where each is useful? Maybe also factoring in how late in the game you can first earn them? I'd love that and it seems pretty in line for this series.
Good videos! ✌️
it may, OR MAY NOT BE, on the list. who knows. i don't. 👀
I was unaware you could get any of them except lagomorph, flash, and chocobop. I thought the slots were otherwise just for show.
You missed out. I think I got Sun Flare twice. I've never gotten either of the Joker Dooms.
The worst ability...summon a random Esper. Why would you say that?...if it summons Crusader you get killed for a good chunk of the game.(as the video shows happening.) Low odds, but I remember being blown up by purifier as a result of a random Esper summon. I have never forgiven Setzer since. He and Umaro get left on the ship for a reason.
I wouldn't feel good beating a game this way
Sub'd a few days ago, looking forward to the big video....Gau. I know, cat scrath and that wind one for the snes....but what about the others.?
That is the question. What ABOUT the others 👀🤭🤔
The first time I got 3 bars, I got crusader and I hadn't saved in forever. I was devastated. Also, do you know if it's on purpose that you tend to get rare slots only if the battle is about to be over anyway? I'm pretty sure it is, I've had it happen countless times. I'll get the mega flare, but then think "oh, Locke is about to kill this enemy" and he does lol.
While the Joker doom KILL all enemies version is his best slot I could never rig it and in the PIXEL version Auto battle like 99% of the time when it lands on Joker doom would be the kill your OWN party with it.
While normally Intangirs can't be killed by the NORMAL death spell or the Rhodox/Mu rage the kill all enemies Joker doom its NOT immune to it.
Slots has killed me too many times for me to ever use them again, but as a kid, I always went for Chocobo or Prism
7-7-bar is a killer move
This made me realize how many of these I've never actually seen, because I never use Setzer. Other party members like Edgar and Sabin are just too good to waste a slot on him for me.
I too prefer far more consistent characters. Screw this chaos stuff I can't plan a strategy around. I put Setzer and Umaro on the bench for the final dungeon for this reason. I always dislike the gamblers characters, as they seem to randomly kill me in each game. Setzer did with Crusader early on, like WHAT? Cait Sith did the same with whatever the instant death ability is for his limit break, and I refuse to use him anymore after that.
In desperation I finally triggered the summon slot as a wee lad in this game's heyday, before the World of Ruin. I was stoked thinking I'd get Bahamut or something devastating. Instead I got Crusader and watched three dudes blow shit apart. I thought I would win the battle.
I saw the 3k damage to enemies and was like "HELL YEAH!" Then saw the 2k to my lv 25-ish party and them all get wiped out immediately.
After that I never wanted to use the summon slot again.
crusader is the sickest and saddest summon to get D:
The same. I loathe Setzer.
Worst to best Chrono trigger skill attack or team attack
I use Seltzer all the time and kinda forgot he had slots lol.
They should have named him Cid
The Crusader summon early is a run killer. It's completely random.
Yeah it really soured me on using Setzer. I was deep a dungeon and it went off, killing my party. I hadn't quite made to the save yet and had do all over.
"Think aboot" haha
My list would look different but that's because of the casual experience. I was only ever to get joker doom version 1 once and while I laughed cuz it was so close it also was just like dammit. I never got the good joker doom.
LOL thats why i added the list at the end as well if someone wants to roll the dice and how much the list changes based off of that
At the end of the day, I'd rather give Setzer Fixed Dice, Master's Scroll and the Imp armor set and Imp him.
Kappa the Gambler FTW.
imp armour is a nice touch haha
I never used setzers ability. Just give him offering and genji glove to make him a killer since others had good skills to rely on.
honestly that's the best way to go about it, these lists are mostly a "what if we look strictly at just this one thing" for fun :)
@@Bdewd have you ever done videos on imp armor and some more obscure armor like mirage vest and Thornlet you can get by metamorphosing certain characters?
@@gj1234567899999 I haven't but once I'm done with the character best to worsts I have planned that's not a bad idea hmm
About that the Ragnarok Esper is crap even on the GBA version it almost never works and the Mirage Vest/Thornlet are pure crap.
@@veghesther3204 ragnorak often didn’t work but it was the only way to get some items or get more than one. Experience eggs, miracle (marvel shoes) ribbons etc. miracle shoes gives you protect, she’ll, regen, and haste, and ribbon protects you from all status ailments.
"Slots"? You mean Setzer's exclusive lagomorph summon?
the SNES version of the game does look so much better. its the version to play.
Fun list.
Tbh I really wish there were relics to guarantee some slots.
I think pixel remaster nerfed Setzer too much. All though unintentionally
Had there been a relic guaranteeing flush/dive bomb etc I think Setzer would had been a much more effective charachter
that's a pretty cool idea. all they really did was the gil toss relic sadly
Fuck slots. Fixed Dice, Master's Scroll, Profit.
@@Bdewd And that honestly is a awful buff.
Or rather Gil toss always felt kinda weak. And once it kicks off its already to weak haha :D
@@Anomaly188 my man!!!
Mugumugu
boing boing
Thought this was best to worst
I just make him into an imp
The game purposely will not allow you to get all 7s on skill. it has a RNG factor to it. You can play it on an emulator and slow the game down to frame by frame and even though you'll easily get perfect timing, the game will still slide to the next icon. All other combos are 100% possible via skill
that's why i was mentioning unless you throw an echo screen you cant get it off the hop. funny how a single item makes the slots give you the most broken ability in the game (imo) and not throwing it means you physically can't get it
@@Bdewd Oh, is that also the case for the Pixel Remaster or no?
@@clydecash5659 im not particularly knowledgeable on the inner working of PR slots but early on we were trying to do the GBA style manip via during a spell cast but it was awkward cuz the pause buffering is bad
Bdewwwwwwwwd
I dont recommend the pr they take out alot of stuff
Heh. Ipooh. Heh.
His Slot ability is worst by it self tbh.
Exactly other then the Cranes bosses I almost NEVER use slots ever again.
@@veghesther3204 Honestly, if you can't pause and manipulate rng. Setzer's slots are basically kinda useless. He only shines if he gets Offering + Genji Glove + Fixed Dice. Other than that, he is probably my most unused party members other than Umaro, and a knockoff Chakra/Mantra.
I did exactly that just WITHOUT the Genji glove with the Fixed Dice he doesn't need a 2nd weapon or to use slots at all.
But even at lv 99 its CYAN and Umaro IMHO that are still pure crap.
As for Setzer's OTHER skill despite that its easily to have millions of gil unspent the GIL toss skill not only uses up a Relic slot it really won't do 9999 damage to anything either and isn't worth it.
I have to say you don't have a clue what you are saying. The title says best to worst. The way you were talking you don't know what that means.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the title just flows better but starting on #1 is quite silly as well