"Good fences make good neighbors. Bad neighbors make good fertilizer!" 😂 Story six.... OP could have taken Karen to court for harrassment, slander and libel. Karma, B!! 😡
Bad Neighbours make so-so Fertilizer unless run through a tree chipper first... Bad neighbour flavoured Chunky Salsa makes Excellent Fertilizer... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Story 6 - I feel really sorry for the kid who has that Karen for a mother. I mean imagine having a mom like that that spreads awful lies about someone for no reason, other than she’s a psycho, only to have the whole neighborhood turn on her and being forced to leave because of her.
That lady is like ohmwrecker, making extreme allegations without proof, evidence, or a sliver self-preservation. She cried wolf, and the town got pissed
OP could have threatened her with a lawsuit for slander and or defamation as well as called the postal service and asked him if by putting letters in mailboxes was illegal in their town If that's considered tampering with mail.
It is a Federal law that prohibits anyone other than an authorized postal employee or the owner of a mailbox (or mail slot in a door) to put anything in or on said mailbox or mail slot. It has nothing to do with what city, town or state they live in. Federal law applies to the entirety of the USA.
US Postal laws are country wide. You can get in legal trouble for putting anything except Mail in anyone's mailbox. They can even just wait and talk with their normal Mailman. They would know who/where/when to talk to. And might even be able to start an investigation for them. I've known 2 people who went to prison for separate incidents. 1 could've killed someone. The 2nd was for putting letters in mailboxes. Yes there was more for each incident but it's been a few years and have forgotten.
It is a Federal offense to use a mailbox that way, you have to use postage for anything that you put into a mailbox, so she was violating a federal law.
Final story, here in Australia I rarely lock my doors, and I wouldn't want to be locked in like a prisoner, but if that's what OP wants he can at least provide a copy of the hallway door. YTA
I live in an apartment with a secured front door entrance. We aren't supposed to let anyone in unless we know them. The landlord needs to make new keys.
Some keys I've had got numbers stamped on them, which meant most key cutting places won't touch them, so it's possible OP couldn't make a copy even if they wanted.
@@konradgreen2567 I've made keys with numbers stamped into them... I've even stamped them with the number. I was also trained to check for a "do not duplicate" message and to refuse to duplicate those ones.
@@wolphin732 I'm curious. What will happen if the actual owner wants to duplicate keys with "do not duplicate" message? What proof of ownership they shall present to you?
Story 6 warmed my heart. Good on these folks for taking it to that psycho. Some people have gotten WAY too comfortable with casually calling others pedophiles. It's the most heinous thing you can accuse somebody of. She should have been sued.
Last story: Door meant to prevent unauthorized people from entering the building is left unlocked. Sooner or later someone will inevitably break in. "Ooh my god, how could this have happened??"
Some times in the hood there are unspoken rules, and rule 1) never fuck with the peace, if shit has worked out keep it working 2) act like you belong and you don't get fuck with
See the thing is, if that door is meant to be locked at all times and the ladies aren't locking it for whatever reason then they're the jerks! I've dealt with this before and felt safe when we had the door locked as before we had vagrants hiding in our basement, defecting doing drugs, and breaking into storage units. If they lost them then they need to get new ones or the rental office need to apply an automatic locking door knob! That's what ours was and nobody EVER lost their key!
I totally disagree with the end of the last story. I’d definitely want my doors all kept locked (ESPECIALLY in a “bad” neighborhood). Just because everyone else was irresponsible and lost their key, doesn’t make OP the a-hole.
My thoughts as well. I mean the op is and is not the AH. It is better to lock it. But no one has the key. I think he should have been willing to duplicate it with the landlord permission for everyone. And they have kids. Diffently should lock that gate
We had a neighbor that insisted our daughter banged on the wall in the middle of the night, which would have involved her waking up at 2-3 am. Every night. I knew she was nuts, told her our daughter was sleeping soundly every night, and she was possibly hearing water pipes or something else. She insists that we make our daughter stop. Her brother who lived with her accuses us as calling his sister a liar. I again say there is absolutely no way what she thought was happening could possibly be happening, because not only was our daughter asleep, the so called shared wall has a stairwell in between so there was no way our daughter was waking up in the middle of the night, floating above the stairs to where her bedroom was, kicking the wall, floating back down onto the stairs, and then going back to sleep.
The unlocked hallway door is a thing where I live. So it’s slightly dangerous where we had to get security guards every night and a full building sweep around 1-3a. It was annoying because I always heard running and slamming of doors breaking glass and cops and residents yelling at each other in the hallway. I live in Florida where most are armed with gun or tasers. I get that. But after the sweeps and clean outs, our property manger got the gate outside fixed and locked. The key replacement is 100$ and no you cannot take it and make copies without the landlords permission. It’s a safety issue. If you lose the key, they have to change the lock and reissue a new key just in case someone knows what the key is for. Same as your apartment keys. It’s 75 to replace that and the lock. If OP did get the key copied he could’ve gotten in trouble by the landlord or property manager. Not worth losing your home over. The residents need to get their own as the hallway door is lock for a reason. If someone realizes that it’s never locked one day down the road, it could be trouble for them. NTA people who live in apartments should really read their lease regarding copies of keys. If they can do it themselves or must go through the property manager or owner. It could cost you ur home or fees.
👏💯👏 *I agree with you!* *It'd be different if OP just made up this rule.. but he DIDN'T! The door is supposed to be locked.. and one would THINK since they have children, they would want their apt to be SAFE!* 🤦🤦
Fence story: Well done OP. But it seems odd that the neighbor's house was so close to the property line. Usually there's a minimum setback distance. Laurel bush vs cedar tree story: Saying "NO" shouldn't stop the project, it just makes it more expensive as now the tree guys have to climb the tree instead of using a cherry picker. It can be done, just takes more time which equals more money. New house story: I would move my car just to stop the complaints and to keep the crazy neighbor from getting the idea of damaging the car in some way. But I would not move into a duplex ever again for this type of situation. Super bowl party story: Given that it would have taken place well before quiet hours almost anywhere, yeah, making a noise complaint wasn't going to fly. "Pedo" story: Another busybody with nothing better to do than to try to destroy lives. Given she was sticking letters in people's mailboxes, well that's actually a federal offense if you wanted to push it. But it seems like OP and others managed to get rid of her. I pity the new neighborhood though, and her kid who now has to make new friends and start a new school. Locked door story: Mildly YTA! If they give you the money to pay for making duplicate keys, what's the problem? Unless it is a high security key which has do not duplicate on it, that is. I do understand not wanting to leave doors unlocked, but not helping out making copies that don't cost $70 thru the landlord isn't very neighborly.
locked door story: op is NTA as if he did as you said he could be looking for a new place as you dont know what his contract says about making copies of the door key. while i agree that he could he shouldn't if its gonna break his contract
Last story. The landlord has a right to be the gatekeeper of the hallway keys. Making a copy or allowing others to make a copy without the landlords knowledge would be improper. And likely illegal.
“Packers won the Super Bowl! Wooo! Packers!” Last story: I would give this a “No one sucks here”. While the new tenant could easily give or sell copies to the others, this could be a violation of the tenant agreement and get OP and/or others booted. Best bet is, as Fluff said, for OP to call the landlord in on it and hope they’re not an asshole.
@@RoburDrake Most locksmiths will not copy them, but the dodgy ones will, and make an extra, giving to the thieves, so they know where to go because the people there are likely to have no security at all, and are easy pickings. OP tell landlord about this, and that the security of his investment is at high risk from the others failing to obey the leases they all signed.
Party story: I have friends who when they host a party invite the whole block whether they know them or not, including neighbors behind them. Makes for a great evening and meet some new people. Lost key story: How do you lose an important key? Simply put it on your keyring. And everyone lost the same key?! Something seems fishy.
Last Story: IF the neighborhood really is as dangerous as OP says, then he's mostly not the AH since he's in the right to care about his safety, BUT, he IS the AH for not helping the others to get their own keys in that case.
Story 6: Wow, what's her problem? Of course teens would ask about a luxurious car, like who wouldn't? Is the ex-neighbor jealous that OP has a luxury car, is this projection, is there some other delusion involved? We will never know since she left. She is lucky OP didn't sue her
Story 6: Karen got off really lucky. Libel, Slander, Defamation of Character, Trespassing, Harassment, Tampering with Mailboxes. OP could have sued her for a LOT of money.
In the last story, OP is NOT the A-hole, in my opinion. It is not OP's fault, the other tenants lot their hallway keys and its their responsibility to replace them. As a woman, I would definitely not feel as safe, if just anyone off street could wander into the building. Seen that far too much, having lived in apartments for more then 40 years.
Re the crazy neighbour lady who tried to ruin sports car guy's life with baseless accusations... what he did was great, but he should have sued her for defamation, libel, slander, whatever and he would have ended up owning her house, not just seeing it vacated.
Last story - NOT the AH. It is not OP's responsibility to get keys for everybody else. And I don't think that's exactly legal because he is not the landlord, and if he does it who knows who's going to have those keys, another tenant could give one to somebody who doesn't really belong there. And I say, no, just keep locking the door, it's about your safety.
Story #6 - Crazy Lady might well have learned that slander can result in some very large judgments. She's lucky it wasn't me, she was targeting, because I'd have gone the legal route.
Last story: I can’t agree that the guy is an ahole in this. My building has a similar setup and in my lease agreement we have a $75 fee for missing keys but the agreement even states that the fee covers a new lock instead of a new copy of the key. Which makes sense from a security standpoint. If you’ve lost the key you don’t know who has it now so better off replacing the whole lock instead. In this case, if everyone else has lost their keys they should collectively go to the landlord and explain and if possible split the $70 fee between the three who lost their keys because it is a risk to just leave the door unlocked. Especially if they’re single mothers (meaning there are also children at risk) I’d rather own up and lose some money than leave that door unlocked. Even if it can be picked that’s still extra time if there is an intruder if they have to get through two locked doors instead of just one.
I disagree. It is not being overly sympathetic. He's new, just moved in and is making life very difficult for the people that have lived there long before he arrived. If he doesnt like how they live in the building, he should find a solution with them or move. Or enjoy living there on his terms with everyone else hating him. Because that is the reality. I'm not saying I also wouldnt want the door locked- but he is being a d about how he is handling it. @@aaronabbey2604
OMG, I feel the loud neighbors story. We had a quiet neighborhood until they moved in. They have three girls with a massive number of cousins who come and go from their house. These children treat screaming like a freakin' Olympic sport, engaging in, what I can only imagine to be, screaming contests to see who can scream the loudest. At night, I will hear at least one of the girls screaming at the top of her little lungs FOR HOURS even when I'm in my living room. When they first moved here, I called the cops a couple times because it sounded like someone was being murdered. Now I know that's just what they do. I hate it. They're entitled, use our driveway without permission, let the kids (often about eight of them, ranging in age from two to about nine,) terrorize the whole street on their scooters with no supervision whatsoever, and act angry with ME for not just watching their kids while the parents are nowhere to be seen. They leave toys in the street all up and down the street (scooters, bikes, dolls, balls, you name it,) so there's no way for vehicle traffic to access our street, and absolutely trash people's yards when they aren't looking. I made the mistake of leaving my front door open one day, and a freaking PARADE of children just walked into my house uninvited. I corralled them out of my house, and their dad had the nerve to get annoyed WITH ME and tell me I'm not allowed to have my own front door open because his kids will just 'go on in.' Like, how the hell is that my fault, bro?
for the last one, NTA! i'm a retired cop and i've lost count of the fools who tell me they don't lock their doors or stuff never happens in their neighborhood. they were usually telling me this as i took a burglary report or some other complaint of criminal activity. at one point i lived in an apartment that put in security locks on the front and back entries because of a new local ordinance. some jerk(s) kept disabling the locks and letting their "friends" vandalize the halls. they were evicted eventually for drunken parties where windows were smashed. too bad it took so long.
Story 7: OP is NTA. The only reason that door has been unlocked is because none of them want to pay to replace their keys. It's a safety risk and just because nothing hasn't happened (to our knowledge) doesn't mean that nothing will should it continue. I would've gone further and reported it to the building owner/manager that I was continuously finding the hall door left unlocked.
Dude is not the ahole, the door is supposed to be locked, it's a bad neighborhood, the burden of responsibility falls upon the adults that are unfortunately raising children to keep track of important things like keys and get their own replacement if lost. I have no sympathy for them and would have done the same thing.
I disagree. He knows they don't have keys, won't let them in when he locks them out, and refuses to let them pay him to make copies then whines about their lack of hospitality. What a crybaby
Only problem is, the neighbours were willing to compromise and asked for OP to help them replace their lost keys. OP refused and pretty much destroyed any case for a NTA verdict.
From the story we can discern that the neighbors are actually aware that the hall shall be locked. The problem is they lost their keys. And instead of OP became their hero by let them copy the key, he went, "Hurr durr, I have the key and you don't, mwahahahaha!". He's an AH.
Actually certain keys can not just be duplicated the key place will need permission to make duplicates from the owner/building management Those are security locks & because of this it's expensive to get them replaced There is very likely a clause in the tenancy agreement about it as well as that the door should be locked at all times. Given the fact the landlord charges them this much I'm actually very certain that this is the case It's the other tenants' responsibility to contact the landlord to get the replacement keys & they are actually lucky that the, OP is not reporting this to the landlord because the landlord would then have cause to evict all of them
completely disagree the landlord has to know its not locked and just doesnt care so why should OP get to comes in and change everything thats been going on for 5 years and if it maters that damn much let them copy your key, at worst they geyt charged by the complex at best its a $20 fix for all 3 neighbors.
Op in the story with the cheater only gave a tiny push. Gorilla didn’t ask how he knew she was cheating, who the other guy was, when, nothing. He fully believed him which means he was already super suspicious
OP is NOT the ahole in the final story. People shouldnt have lost there keys. Ive libed in a secured apt building like that and if the door was found unlocked everyone got in trouble. I dont blame OP for being uncomfortable i would be also. DONT LOSE YOUR IMPORTANT KEYS.
Parking in front of neighbor's house. It's possible that neighbor wanted her mom to be able to park right in front of her house because her mom has trouble walking or it's painful for her to walk very far. OP could and should have asked if there was a reason her mom needed to park close but they instead chose to just be the ahole about it.
That crossed my mind but also when op said they wouldn’t be moving their car I just thought where are the from? It’s like 3 day maximum on street parking before you have to move otherwise you get a ticket or towed where I’m from
@@hanavanover6524 Yeah, where I am I think it's the 72 hours/3 days you mention that's the max allowed before consequences. It's been a while since I heard the story but I'm thinking it didn't seem to be in the US but not positive.
Story 5: To be fair, I’ve called the cops for noise complaints before. I love my peace and quiet, and wear headphones anytime I’m listening to music or something. I don’t care if it’s a football party, if I ask politely for you to keep it down and you refuse, I’ll probably call the cops and the landlord. This doesn’t make me a jerk, it’s just common courtesy. To be fair, I’m also not a sports fan in general.
story 7: they should get a key from the landlord. the only thing, where OP could be considered to be the AH is, if he gave out the key without control of who gets it. of course, on the other side, a lock can be picked within minutes. it's a fiction that a lock will keep you safe, and government facilities (doesn't matter which government) usually calculate in minutes how much a lock will stall an intruder. the neighbors should get either a key form the landlord or a written permission that OP can make copies of his key.
@robertheinrich2994 a locked door saved me friends life it gave them enough time to get a weapon. they person breaking in down on there knees until the cop took the person away
They are single moms and the landlord charges $70 a key. OP wants the door locked? OP should be a sport and make a damn copy for one of the tenants. It's not "giving the key out like candy" it's giving the key to a person who lives there. The best solution, besides the other tenants shunning OP is to watch what his schedule is. and when he comes home and locks the door, they unlock it as soon as he goes into his apmnt. Dont get me wrong, I'd prefer the door locked, but I also would make them a freakin key.
@@gryphonennis1002 but they got keys. according to the story. they all have keys. what does them stop from either using their keys or requesting new ones. not everyone shoud be allowed to give keys out. and if there is a weird reason why the landlord dones not want to give them keys? that's between the renter and the landlord. OP is a third party in that contract and would open himself up to a bunch of liabilities, if he gave out copies of the key. and it's not like asking the landlord is hard.
Wall-banging story: I was super worried that this was the story where OP reveals that the neighbor has her mother’s corpse rotting in a rocking chair in her home
Last story, it seems like everyone, including our wonderful Mr Fluff, that another reason that OP doesn't want to make copies is that perhaps that the key he has is one of those keys that you're not allowed to make copies of, only the current owner of the key can, which is the landlord.
BTW stuffing letters in mailboxes without sending it through the mail is a federal crime. She was also trespassing. The best thing you can do is putting up a no trespassing sign up as soon as you move in.
Story 4: Geez, I remember when there was this super-loud party late at night in my neighborhood, I could barely sleep. If you're going to have a party at night and outside, please keep it quiet. People are trying to sleep!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!! I have a neighbor who in the summertime has these monster outdoor parties. They are quite loud and quite annoying, but I've learned over the decades on how to pick and choose my battles. I play nice with them, and they play nice with me. They live directly behind me, and they have the kind of friends who could make life extremely miserable for me if they so desire. But, the one thing that we all have going for ourselves, is that they actually respect the cutoff time for permissible noise in the neighborhood. Moral of this story is to play nice with the neighbors, because chances are very good that they will play nice for you.
Story 7: So because the complex is full of lazy or incompetent people who can't be bothered going to their landlords and requesting a replacement key and paying the fee for said key, they'd rather lower their own security and safety in their apartments by keeping an external door unlocked 24/7? Absolutely ridiculous. If I was OP I would've contacted my landlord and let them know that the people living there are keeping the door unlocked and are requesting I keep it unlocked too, all because they lost their external door key.
Story 7: No, you are not the A-hole. I would've done the same. If the neighbors can't keep their keys safe, then they need a reminder. Losing communal keys put everyone at risk. And it's even worse when the neighborhood is rated as dangerous. You should contact the landlord to make him switch the lock, issue new keys to the tenants, and split the cost between the losers.
In Story 6, I would've looked into suing her for defamation, because accusing a man of being a pedo can be career ending, specially if things are posted on social media.
If there is something in the lease preventing you from copying keys, then NTA for last story. If they clause doesn’t exist, I’d say nta for locking the door, but ata for not just making some copies for everyone, they could have even made some cash doing it.
story 4, that's a new one. I know from another story, that recording and playing back with a half second delay is seriously annoying and will kill any music. and I know a story where an electrician rigged his audio setup to induce loud noise into the audio cables of the offending neighbor. but playback of gossip? that's new. suggestions for more subtile versions of revenge. audio recording, speech to text (no problem with AI) and publish the transcripts on the neighbor-facebook group.
I don't think the last guy is the AH. It's not safe to leave the door unlocked! (even if they were lucky so far) The others should try to work it out with the landlord, and if that doesn't work split the cost of a key and make copies
Fluff you missed one thing in the last story, there are a bunch of kids in an unlock building, that’s very unsafe for many reasons and it take 1 creep/criminal to change there mind. NTA the landlord should be talked to about this, I hate to hear if kids got kidnapped one day because they were standing in a unlocked hallway waiting for there Mom.
Story 6: The OP didn't go far enough. That lady could have absolutely ruined his life. That is a horrible accusation to level at someone. It could have destroyed his marriage,cost him his job, and his home. He should have had the attorney sue her for slander! She's just going to do the same thing, to another guy, wherever she winds up.
My upstairs neighbor is a butthurt fellow who is unable maintaining healthy relationships. It's not possible for him to hear my tv because I never hear anything from my downstairs neighbor. Everytime he has a new woman everything is fine and dandy, but when the unevitable fighting commences, he starts his tantrums. He bangs his doors loudly and stomps the floor when he thinks my tv is too loud. I ignore everything and that makes him even more angry. I'm waiting him having either heart attack or aneurysm from elevated blood pressure. Best part is my volume levels are at minimum at nights and the night peace is between 10pm to 7am. He has no valid basis for complaints. And besides, I'm so amused by his bitching that it gives me so much early sadistic joy.
Good on that person for finally telling that man he was being cheated on. Always tell somebody when they're being cheated on. I'm sure there will be people saying that you should mind your own business but those are just the cheaters😉
Concerning the fence & the tree. I would have agreed to let the neighbor do the tree with a guarantee of liability. Many different kinds of fences need mending.
Last story. WTF DarkFluff. Totally NTA. It’s not OPs fault they were irresponsible with their keys. If I lived there I’d lock that door as well. They need to take responsibility and order new keys from the landlord.
Last Story: NTA Of course OP can buy copies if they're willing, but the neighbors aren't entitled to it. It's not OP's fault the other tenants don't follow procedure and end up losing their keys. OP should keep it up, their neighbors are the entitled ones that don't know how to follow rules or keep up with their own responsibilities. I know I sure as hell would. I would probably even double down after the neighbors started being difficult about it. While OP could have handled it differently, he's not actually the one in the wrong. That's why he isn't the a-hole.
Story 7: NTA. OP shouldn't have to sacrifice his peace of mind and personal safety for some stuck up, entitled Karens who think their way is right. And for that commentor who said he should just let his neighbors copy his key has obviously never rented before. The landlord can push charges for duplicating keys that aren't for OP to duplicate.
Last story - NTA I assume OP selected that building because of the secured door. I would inform the landlord of the situation and let them take care of it.
Last story sounds almost more like malicious compliance more than anything. I'm sure somewhere in the lease it probably talks about keeping the hallway door locked, otherwise why give everyone a key? If they lose their key, that's kind of on them, I bet if people actually bothered to lock the door those keys wouldn't be getting lost as much. Besides that, they're probably going to have to pay for a replacement key to the landlord someday anyway since the landlord generally expects keys back if and when they move out, and it probably won't be the same design as the original or be missing a serial number or something. Like, yeah, still let them get their duplicate, or just make a duplicate 'master key' for them, but I'm also willing to bet they probably have 'do not duplicate' inscribed on them.
Story 3 reminds me of an incident I had with an irate customer. I’m a retail shift manager. For some strange reason a woman comes in yelling at me saying I disrespected her daughter and some other incoherent stuff. Another customer comes to my rescue wanting to push her out but she walks out before he’s able to. Customer asks if I’m ok. I told him I’m fine and the jokes on her. The last thing the lady said to me was that I must be broke working a minimum wage job. She had a cheap dye job and bad make up. I told the customer I live in this part of town, very affluent, in my own home. I got lucky in real estate 10 years ago. Most of my neighbors make more than my husband and my salary combined. My house has gone up 50% in value since I bought it. I tell the guy, I doubt she has her own home, let alone one as expensive as mine. Be careful who you insult about being poor.
OP should never have let Karen in that first time. The stupidity of people expecting OP to keep doing just that... WHY did they never go to management (OP included) about this problem? Oh, sure, it would be cheaper to copy OP's key, but how many rules/laws would that have broken? OP could have been evicted, arrested, and who knows what else for violating the lease. I think more people should read their rental agreement again.
Oh man, my first apartment had a courtyard with a walkway and this one dude would talk on the phone and walk all around the circle. I finally opened my window and said, "Hey, since you pay good money to have your own place, would you mind talking inside of it?"
For your last story, I would say OP is NTA. You can never take building security for granted. OP is doing the right and responsible thing by using the key that his landlord/managers gave him specifically to secure the common area. If the other tenants lost their common area key, that is their problem and they should inform the manager. $70 is not unreasonable as a fine for losing your key. However, I can understand the other tenants frustrations regarding the common area. The best solution would be one of convenience. The landlord/managers should have a common lock core made that can be opened by their unit keys. It’s not difficult for a good locksmith to do this. That way, a tenant only needs to use a single key to open the common areas and their own unit. The landlord could also use an electronic auto lock that is activated via a key fob and a timer. The door would unlock at 8:00 and lock at 18:00 and tenants can use the fob to unlock the common area doors. This is exactly how my complex works. But suffice it to say, OP shouldn’t be punished for doing the right thing and following his lease agreement.
Just so they can all lose their keys again, and for there to be even more keys out in the world that anyone can find and use? No. Not his problem. Not the a hole. He has a right to feel safe in his home.
Story 7. OP is definitely not the a-hole. It’s a dangerous neighborhood. Locked door is safer for everyone. If they don’t have a key to the main door, it’s their problem
He is not the a-hole. Not his fault they lost their keys. It's their grown up responsibility to get it replaced if needed. If that door is an included security for the building he has every right to use it and feel as secure as possible in his apartment
Ok, I understand op wanting the hallway locked. I get it. They feel unsafe. But what makes them ta is refusing to allow the residents of the building to have their own keys! Why ? They live there too!
$70 to copy a key??? Holy crap! Are the gold plated or something? Only keys I can think of that might possibly warrant such a price are so called patented keys. And you can't have those copied without the proper paperwork.
As other commenters have said. That fee might not be just for a new key but for a new lock as well. Someone a few comments above made the point that if a resident lost their key you don’t know who has it so better to replace the lock and everybody’s keys. That’s how it is at my building as well. It’s a $75 fee but the lease agreement even states that that covers new keys and a lock for the door that needed a key replacement
I was on the fence with the last story, OP had a point about living in a rough area. But then the neighbours showed they were willing to compromise and asked for OP’s help in getting the keys replaced. When OP refused, it was an easy verdict of YTA. $70 is a lot of money to get something as simple as a key replaced, and people with an income that can take that hit wouldn’t be living in that kind of neighbourhood. I’ve seen people in the comments saying “Well it’s their fault for losing their keys” to which I say no, because up until then, they had no reason to be concerned about the keys and again, the neighbours were willing to compromise and get their keys replaced. They were willing to see the matter from OPs perspective. Honestly you’d think after all these videos about entitlement, Fluff’s own commenters would know better.
No, he isn't the AH. Bad neighborhood especially. In a building with single mothers and kids? That is a target. Just because people have gotten used to the laziness, doesn't mean its the right thing to do.
As far as the final story goes, the new neighbor has every right to lock the hallway door, especially if they know the risk to themselves by leaving it unlocked. They are also right for not giving up their key to one of the neighbors and making a copy of the neighbors, it would the managing companies responsibility to issue hallway keys to all residents of the property. This could also cause an insurance issue because, most building insurance policies require that the building is secure, by leaving the door unlocked, they are opening up the residents to further liability. Again, the Landlord needs to provide the residents with a key to the Hallway, if they don't its not the new neighbors problem.
5th one OP sucks for that party, the police sucks for not taking action. the upstair neighbor is not a karen in my opinion in regard to calling the police there i would have done the same if someone is having a massive party late at night. i dont give a damn if someones home team won a big sporting event it still a ahole move.
When the Crazy neighbour started to accuse OP of being a Pedo., they should have called their Lawyer to Sue her for Slander, Libel and Defamation of Character... I would have...
Hallway Door Story: Making copies of a house key would not fly with me either, as those type of keys normally are safety keys and no key maker in their right mind would copy those without proof of ownership/registration with their safety code card, as that is illegal here (Germany). Having said that, hallway doors here usually close by themselves after opening them, and they cannot be opened from the outside without a key or tampering. It sucks having multiple keys, tbh. Lucklily, most apartments nowadays come with an all-in-one system, so that you can use the same key for apartment and hallway.
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Story six.... OP could have taken Karen to court for harrassment, slander and libel. Karma, B!! 😡
Careful, that line of thinking gets us closer to soylent green 😂 but yeah humans would decompose nicely under a yard
I couldn't have said it better.
Unfortunately, I think the Charloton Heston reference goes over 90% of the viewers heads 😅😅😅@bluntizard4481
Bad Neighbours make so-so Fertilizer unless run through a tree chipper first...
Bad neighbour flavoured Chunky Salsa makes Excellent Fertilizer...
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😂😂😂 you all crack me up. Great comments!
OP has a DAMNED good case against Karen for libel AND slander.
Story 6 - I feel really sorry for the kid who has that Karen for a mother. I mean imagine having a mom like that that spreads awful lies about someone for no reason, other than she’s a psycho, only to have the whole neighborhood turn on her and being forced to leave because of her.
Dude coulld have sued the snot out of her for defamation
@@tippyc2 That’s true, harassment and defamation
@@tmntfangirl4700no way
That lady is like ohmwrecker, making extreme allegations without proof, evidence, or a sliver self-preservation. She cried wolf, and the town got pissed
Poor kid! That Karen is just going to traumatize this child!
OP could have threatened her with a lawsuit for slander and or defamation as well as called the postal service and asked him if by putting letters in mailboxes was illegal in their town If that's considered tampering with mail.
It is a Federal law that prohibits anyone other than an authorized postal employee or the owner of a mailbox (or mail slot in a door) to put anything in or on said mailbox or mail slot. It has nothing to do with what city, town or state they live in. Federal law applies to the entirety of the USA.
US Postal laws are country wide. You can get in legal trouble for putting anything except Mail in anyone's mailbox. They can even just wait and talk with their normal Mailman. They would know who/where/when to talk to. And might even be able to start an investigation for them. I've known 2 people who went to prison for separate incidents. 1 could've killed someone. The 2nd was for putting letters in mailboxes. Yes there was more for each incident but it's been a few years and have forgotten.
It is a Federal offense to use a mailbox that way, you have to use postage for anything that you put into a mailbox, so she was violating a federal law.
Final story, here in Australia I rarely lock my doors, and I wouldn't want to be locked in like a prisoner, but if that's what OP wants he can at least provide a copy of the hallway door. YTA
I live in an apartment with a secured front door entrance. We aren't supposed to let anyone in unless we know them. The landlord needs to make new keys.
Some keys I've had got numbers stamped on them, which meant most key cutting places won't touch them, so it's possible OP couldn't make a copy even if they wanted.
@@konradgreen2567 I've made keys with numbers stamped into them... I've even stamped them with the number. I was also trained to check for a "do not duplicate" message and to refuse to duplicate those ones.
@@konradgreen2567 It's not because he couldn't. It's because he wouldn't.
@@konradgreen2567 Maybe, but given that OPs neighbours offered to pay to duplicate the key, how is that OP's problem?
@@wolphin732 I'm curious. What will happen if the actual owner wants to duplicate keys with "do not duplicate" message? What proof of ownership they shall present to you?
Story 6 warmed my heart. Good on these folks for taking it to that psycho. Some people have gotten WAY too comfortable with casually calling others pedophiles. It's the most heinous thing you can accuse somebody of. She should have been sued.
But she got her just desserts from OP
i still think that false claims about sex offenses should be punished as havin the same penalites as the claimed ofense
Last story:
Door meant to prevent unauthorized people from entering the building is left unlocked.
Sooner or later someone will inevitably break in.
"Ooh my god, how could this have happened??"
Some times in the hood there are unspoken rules, and rule 1) never fuck with the peace, if shit has worked out keep it working 2) act like you belong and you don't get fuck with
See the thing is, if that door is meant to be locked at all times and the ladies aren't locking it for whatever reason then they're the jerks! I've dealt with this before and felt safe when we had the door locked as before we had vagrants hiding in our basement, defecting doing drugs, and breaking into storage units. If they lost them then they need to get new ones or the rental office need to apply an automatic locking door knob! That's what ours was and nobody EVER lost their key!
I totally disagree with the end of the last story. I’d definitely want my doors all kept locked (ESPECIALLY in a “bad” neighborhood). Just because everyone else was irresponsible and lost their key, doesn’t make OP the a-hole.
@@maggiebaxter610 yes, it does. They specifically refused to allow the neighbors to get new keys, instead forcing them to pay because they are a dick.
My thoughts as well. I mean the op is and is not the AH. It is better to lock it. But no one has the key. I think he should have been willing to duplicate it with the landlord permission for everyone. And they have kids. Diffently should lock that gate
We had a neighbor that insisted our daughter banged on the wall in the middle of the night, which would have involved her waking up at 2-3 am. Every night. I knew she was nuts, told her our daughter was sleeping soundly every night, and she was possibly hearing water pipes or something else. She insists that we make our daughter stop. Her brother who lived with her accuses us as calling his sister a liar. I again say there is absolutely no way what she thought was happening could possibly be happening, because not only was our daughter asleep, the so called shared wall has a stairwell in between so there was no way our daughter was waking up in the middle of the night, floating above the stairs to where her bedroom was, kicking the wall, floating back down onto the stairs, and then going back to sleep.
The unlocked hallway door is a thing where I live. So it’s slightly dangerous where we had to get security guards every night and a full building sweep around 1-3a. It was annoying because I always heard running and slamming of doors breaking glass and cops and residents yelling at each other in the hallway. I live in Florida where most are armed with gun or tasers. I get that. But after the sweeps and clean outs, our property manger got the gate outside fixed and locked. The key replacement is 100$ and no you cannot take it and make copies without the landlords permission. It’s a safety issue. If you lose the key, they have to change the lock and reissue a new key just in case someone knows what the key is for. Same as your apartment keys. It’s 75 to replace that and the lock.
If OP did get the key copied he could’ve gotten in trouble by the landlord or property manager. Not worth losing your home over. The residents need to get their own as the hallway door is lock for a reason. If someone realizes that it’s never locked one day down the road, it could be trouble for them. NTA people who live in apartments should really read their lease regarding copies of keys. If they can do it themselves or must go through the property manager or owner. It could cost you ur home or fees.
Yeah, but they've been living there a long time. OP just moved in. He is the AH.
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*I agree with you!*
*It'd be different if OP just made up this rule.. but he DIDN'T! The door is supposed to be locked.. and one would THINK since they have children, they would want their apt to be SAFE!*
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you cant lose your home over making a key at worst you get fined the amount the complex charges you for one IF they find out
@@leemitchell7841 it depends on the lease which is why I read every last word.
Fence story: Well done OP. But it seems odd that the neighbor's house was so close to the property line. Usually there's a minimum setback distance.
Laurel bush vs cedar tree story: Saying "NO" shouldn't stop the project, it just makes it more expensive as now the tree guys have to climb the tree instead of using a cherry picker. It can be done, just takes more time which equals more money.
New house story: I would move my car just to stop the complaints and to keep the crazy neighbor from getting the idea of damaging the car in some way. But I would not move into a duplex ever again for this type of situation.
Super bowl party story: Given that it would have taken place well before quiet hours almost anywhere, yeah, making a noise complaint wasn't going to fly.
"Pedo" story: Another busybody with nothing better to do than to try to destroy lives. Given she was sticking letters in people's mailboxes, well that's actually a federal offense if you wanted to push it. But it seems like OP and others managed to get rid of her. I pity the new neighborhood though, and her kid who now has to make new friends and start a new school.
Locked door story: Mildly YTA! If they give you the money to pay for making duplicate keys, what's the problem? Unless it is a high security key which has do not duplicate on it, that is. I do understand not wanting to leave doors unlocked, but not helping out making copies that don't cost $70 thru the landlord isn't very neighborly.
locked door story: op is NTA as if he did as you said he could be looking for a new place as you dont know what his contract says about making copies of the door key. while i agree that he could he shouldn't if its gonna break his contract
Last story. The landlord has a right to be the gatekeeper of the hallway keys. Making a copy or allowing others to make a copy without the landlords knowledge would be improper. And likely illegal.
Also very dangerous! The landlord and the tenants (both current and prospective) don't know who gets the copies!
And also is possible for them to lose his one too
Story 4 is a literal show of the Miranda rights "Anything you say can and will be used against you".
Also, doors have eyes and ears.
I feel like story 4 is just written by a karrrn
“Packers won the Super Bowl! Wooo! Packers!”
Last story: I would give this a “No one sucks here”. While the new tenant could easily give or sell copies to the others, this could be a violation of the tenant agreement and get OP and/or others booted. Best bet is, as Fluff said, for OP to call the landlord in on it and hope they’re not an asshole.
Go Pack Go crazy story I had moved to Green Bay WI a Cowboy fan but ended up becoming a Packer fan after going to a few games for free
Also, such keys usually have "Do not duplicate" stamped into them. It might be difficult to get copies made.
@@RoburDrake Most locksmiths will not copy them, but the dodgy ones will, and make an extra, giving to the thieves, so they know where to go because the people there are likely to have no security at all, and are easy pickings. OP tell landlord about this, and that the security of his investment is at high risk from the others failing to obey the leases they all signed.
We have keys that the locksmiths can't and won't copy,,,,but I can go on a 2h cruise,to the next country, where they do almost anything for money..
Party story: I have friends who when they host a party invite the whole block whether they know them or not, including neighbors behind them. Makes for a great evening and meet some new people.
Lost key story: How do you lose an important key? Simply put it on your keyring. And everyone lost the same key?! Something seems fishy.
Last Story: IF the neighborhood really is as dangerous as OP says, then he's mostly not the AH since he's in the right to care about his safety, BUT, he IS the AH for not helping the others to get their own keys in that case.
Story 6: Wow, what's her problem? Of course teens would ask about a luxurious car, like who wouldn't?
Is the ex-neighbor jealous that OP has a luxury car, is this projection, is there some other delusion involved? We will never know since she left.
She is lucky OP didn't sue her
Yeah, surprised he didn't sue for slander and libel.
If in the US, her putting stuff in the post boxes is a federal crime.
She is stereotyping a childless man because he obviously is a chicken hawk because her son and friends are talking to him
Playing the party gossip back at the party was a cool move.
Story 6: Karen got off really lucky. Libel, Slander, Defamation of Character, Trespassing, Harassment, Tampering with Mailboxes. OP could have sued her for a LOT of money.
Story 5 - What OP did may be considered petty but honestly all OP did was confirm what the Gorilla man already suspected.
I almost expected him to say, "Wow, you are so much louder than the other guy."
Should have recorded the other guy leaving multiple times... and the suspicious activities.... Then give it to him. 😂😂😂
In the last story, OP is NOT the A-hole, in my opinion. It is not OP's fault, the other tenants lot their hallway keys and its their responsibility to replace them. As a woman, I would definitely not feel as safe, if just anyone off street could wander into the building. Seen that far too much, having lived in apartments for more then 40 years.
Re the crazy neighbour lady who tried to ruin sports car guy's life with baseless accusations... what he did was great, but he should have sued her for defamation, libel, slander, whatever and he would have ended up owning her house, not just seeing it vacated.
Story 4 - That was brilliant!!! I applaud OP for their clever thinking. Bravo 👏
Last story - NOT the AH. It is not OP's responsibility to get keys for everybody else. And I don't think that's exactly legal because he is not the landlord, and if he does it who knows who's going to have those keys, another tenant could give one to somebody who doesn't really belong there. And I say, no, just keep locking the door, it's about your safety.
stop being selfish and just allow them to get a copy of the key at least
@@trollforfunsodonttakemeser2374 It’s likely illegal to make a copy of a key to a place you don’t own
Story #6 - Crazy Lady might well have learned that slander can result in some very large judgments. She's lucky it wasn't me, she was targeting, because I'd have gone the legal route.
Last story: I can’t agree that the guy is an ahole in this. My building has a similar setup and in my lease agreement we have a $75 fee for missing keys but the agreement even states that the fee covers a new lock instead of a new copy of the key. Which makes sense from a security standpoint. If you’ve lost the key you don’t know who has it now so better off replacing the whole lock instead. In this case, if everyone else has lost their keys they should collectively go to the landlord and explain and if possible split the $70 fee between the three who lost their keys because it is a risk to just leave the door unlocked. Especially if they’re single mothers (meaning there are also children at risk) I’d rather own up and lose some money than leave that door unlocked. Even if it can be picked that’s still extra time if there is an intruder if they have to get through two locked doors instead of just one.
Thank you. At least someone gets it. Too many people are overly sympathetic, and that makes them easy to take advantage of.
I disagree. It is not being overly sympathetic. He's new, just moved in and is making life very difficult for the people that have lived there long before he arrived. If he doesnt like how they live in the building, he should find a solution with them or move. Or enjoy living there on his terms with everyone else hating him. Because that is the reality. I'm not saying I also wouldnt want the door locked- but he is being a d about how he is handling it. @@aaronabbey2604
OMG, I feel the loud neighbors story. We had a quiet neighborhood until they moved in. They have three girls with a massive number of cousins who come and go from their house. These children treat screaming like a freakin' Olympic sport, engaging in, what I can only imagine to be, screaming contests to see who can scream the loudest.
At night, I will hear at least one of the girls screaming at the top of her little lungs FOR HOURS even when I'm in my living room. When they first moved here, I called the cops a couple times because it sounded like someone was being murdered. Now I know that's just what they do. I hate it. They're entitled, use our driveway without permission, let the kids (often about eight of them, ranging in age from two to about nine,) terrorize the whole street on their scooters with no supervision whatsoever, and act angry with ME for not just watching their kids while the parents are nowhere to be seen. They leave toys in the street all up and down the street (scooters, bikes, dolls, balls, you name it,) so there's no way for vehicle traffic to access our street, and absolutely trash people's yards when they aren't looking. I made the mistake of leaving my front door open one day, and a freaking PARADE of children just walked into my house uninvited. I corralled them out of my house, and their dad had the nerve to get annoyed WITH ME and tell me I'm not allowed to have my own front door open because his kids will just 'go on in.' Like, how the hell is that my fault, bro?
for the last one, NTA! i'm a retired cop and i've lost count of the fools who tell me they don't lock their doors or stuff never happens in their neighborhood. they were usually telling me this as i took a burglary report or some other complaint of criminal activity. at one point i lived in an apartment that put in security locks on the front and back entries because of a new local ordinance. some jerk(s) kept disabling the locks and letting their "friends" vandalize the halls. they were evicted eventually for drunken parties where windows were smashed. too bad it took so long.
Story 7: OP is NTA. The only reason that door has been unlocked is because none of them want to pay to replace their keys. It's a safety risk and just because nothing hasn't happened (to our knowledge) doesn't mean that nothing will should it continue. I would've gone further and reported it to the building owner/manager that I was continuously finding the hall door left unlocked.
Dude is not the ahole, the door is supposed to be locked, it's a bad neighborhood, the burden of responsibility falls upon the adults that are unfortunately raising children to keep track of important things like keys and get their own replacement if lost. I have no sympathy for them and would have done the same thing.
I disagree. He knows they don't have keys, won't let them in when he locks them out, and refuses to let them pay him to make copies then whines about their lack of hospitality. What a crybaby
Only problem is, the neighbours were willing to compromise and asked for OP to help them replace their lost keys.
OP refused and pretty much destroyed any case for a NTA verdict.
From the story we can discern that the neighbors are actually aware that the hall shall be locked. The problem is they lost their keys. And instead of OP became their hero by let them copy the key, he went, "Hurr durr, I have the key and you don't, mwahahahaha!". He's an AH.
Actually certain keys can not just be duplicated the key place will need permission to make duplicates from the owner/building management
Those are security locks & because of this it's expensive to get them replaced
There is very likely a clause in the tenancy agreement about it as well as that the door should be locked at all times.
Given the fact the landlord charges them this much I'm actually very certain that this is the case
It's the other tenants' responsibility to contact the landlord to get the replacement keys & they are actually lucky that the, OP is not reporting this to the landlord because the landlord would then have cause to evict all of them
completely disagree the landlord has to know its not locked and just doesnt care so why should OP get to comes in and change everything thats been going on for 5 years and if it maters that damn much let them copy your key, at worst they geyt charged by the complex at best its a $20 fix for all 3 neighbors.
Story 5: As you said, DarkFluff, telling Gorilla man was petty BUT this IS a PettyRevenge story, lol.
Pretty sure that lies in print are liable or slander or both. Pedo karen could have been sued into oblivion or arrested or both. Hopefully, both.
If it's on text or print, you have a libel mint. If it's spoken and untrue, you have slander stew.
Op in the story with the cheater only gave a tiny push. Gorilla didn’t ask how he knew she was cheating, who the other guy was, when, nothing. He fully believed him which means he was already super suspicious
You blew it Frank !!! You should have said my mom is with me in the car. Normally she is working SWAT !!!!!
OP is NOT the ahole in the final story. People shouldnt have lost there keys. Ive libed in a secured apt building like that and if the door was found unlocked everyone got in trouble. I dont blame OP for being uncomfortable i would be also. DONT LOSE YOUR IMPORTANT KEYS.
Parking in front of neighbor's house. It's possible that neighbor wanted her mom to be able to park right in front of her house because her mom has trouble walking or it's painful for her to walk very far. OP could and should have asked if there was a reason her mom needed to park close but they instead chose to just be the ahole about it.
That crossed my mind but also when op said they wouldn’t be moving their car I just thought where are the from? It’s like 3 day maximum on street parking before you have to move otherwise you get a ticket or towed where I’m from
@@hanavanover6524 Yeah, where I am I think it's the 72 hours/3 days you mention that's the max allowed before consequences. It's been a while since I heard the story but I'm thinking it didn't seem to be in the US but not positive.
Story 5: To be fair, I’ve called the cops for noise complaints before. I love my peace and quiet, and wear headphones anytime I’m listening to music or something. I don’t care if it’s a football party, if I ask politely for you to keep it down and you refuse, I’ll probably call the cops and the landlord. This doesn’t make me a jerk, it’s just common courtesy. To be fair, I’m also not a sports fan in general.
Story 6 - I'm convinced there's a high chance that the woman is the creep and she's trying to mask it.
Karens like to project. What makes it especially bas is that she has a kid and the kid has to listen to the filth she spews.
story 7: they should get a key from the landlord. the only thing, where OP could be considered to be the AH is, if he gave out the key without control of who gets it.
of course, on the other side, a lock can be picked within minutes. it's a fiction that a lock will keep you safe, and government facilities (doesn't matter which government) usually calculate in minutes how much a lock will stall an intruder.
the neighbors should get either a key form the landlord or a written permission that OP can make copies of his key.
not the Ahole. get your own bloody key..........
@robertheinrich2994 a locked door saved me friends life it gave them enough time to get a weapon. they person breaking in down on there knees until the cop took the person away
@@blackflame3411 exactly. and that's why OP can't give out the key like it is candy.
They are single moms and the landlord charges $70 a key. OP wants the door locked? OP should be a sport and make a damn copy for one of the tenants. It's not "giving the key out like candy" it's giving the key to a person who lives there. The best solution, besides the other tenants shunning OP is to watch what his schedule is. and when he comes home and locks the door, they unlock it as soon as he goes into his apmnt. Dont get me wrong, I'd prefer the door locked, but I also would make them a freakin key.
@@gryphonennis1002 but they got keys. according to the story. they all have keys. what does them stop from either using their keys or requesting new ones.
not everyone shoud be allowed to give keys out. and if there is a weird reason why the landlord dones not want to give them keys? that's between the renter and the landlord. OP is a third party in that contract and would open himself up to a bunch of liabilities, if he gave out copies of the key.
and it's not like asking the landlord is hard.
Wall-banging story: I was super worried that this was the story where OP reveals that the neighbor has her mother’s corpse rotting in a rocking chair in her home
Idk but if the cedar trees are that big in diameter I think it'd be protected depending on where it is.
Last story, it seems like everyone, including our wonderful Mr Fluff, that another reason that OP doesn't want to make copies is that perhaps that the key he has is one of those keys that you're not allowed to make copies of, only the current owner of the key can, which is the landlord.
It can also be a clause in the lease.
@@JamesDavy2009 That's a very good point as well.
BTW stuffing letters in mailboxes without sending it through the mail is a federal crime. She was also trespassing. The best thing you can do is putting up a no trespassing sign up as soon as you move in.
Story 3: Both the crazy neighbor and OP are a-holes. Sheesh...
YES!!! But I feel like the neighbor was justified a little bit. Lol op was so rude.
Story 4: Geez, I remember when there was this super-loud party late at night in my neighborhood, I could barely sleep.
If you're going to have a party at night and outside, please keep it quiet. People are trying to sleep!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!! I have a neighbor who in the summertime has these monster outdoor parties. They are quite loud and quite annoying, but I've learned over the decades on how to pick and choose my battles. I play nice with them, and they play nice with me. They live directly behind me, and they have the kind of friends who could make life extremely miserable for me if they so desire. But, the one thing that we all have going for ourselves, is that they actually respect the cutoff time for permissible noise in the neighborhood.
Moral of this story is to play nice with the neighbors, because chances are very good that they will play nice for you.
Story 7: So because the complex is full of lazy or incompetent people who can't be bothered going to their landlords and requesting a replacement key and paying the fee for said key, they'd rather lower their own security and safety in their apartments by keeping an external door unlocked 24/7? Absolutely ridiculous. If I was OP I would've contacted my landlord and let them know that the people living there are keeping the door unlocked and are requesting I keep it unlocked too, all because they lost their external door key.
I would not tell gorilla guy she's cheating when he's angry. That could have been a homicide.
Story 7: No, you are not the A-hole. I would've done the same. If the neighbors can't keep their keys safe, then they need a reminder. Losing communal keys put everyone at risk. And it's even worse when the neighborhood is rated as dangerous.
You should contact the landlord to make him switch the lock, issue new keys to the tenants, and split the cost between the losers.
In Story 6, I would've looked into suing her for defamation, because accusing a man of being a pedo can be career ending, specially if things are posted on social media.
Add slander and libel.
Story 2 - I would’ve told those neighbors to do it themselves and don’t ever bother me again.
If there is something in the lease preventing you from copying keys, then NTA for last story. If they clause doesn’t exist, I’d say nta for locking the door, but ata for not just making some copies for everyone, they could have even made some cash doing it.
story 4, that's a new one. I know from another story, that recording and playing back with a half second delay is seriously annoying and will kill any music.
and I know a story where an electrician rigged his audio setup to induce loud noise into the audio cables of the offending neighbor.
but playback of gossip? that's new.
suggestions for more subtile versions of revenge. audio recording, speech to text (no problem with AI) and publish the transcripts on the neighbor-facebook group.
Giving op the money to go make some key copies is the fairest compromise I can think of.
On the last story, op you are NOT the butthole, if you all live in a bad neighborhood, I would lock the door also.
I don't think the last guy is the AH. It's not safe to leave the door unlocked! (even if they were lucky so far) The others should try to work it out with the landlord, and if that doesn't work split the cost of a key and make copies
Fluff you missed one thing in the last story, there are a bunch of kids in an unlock building, that’s very unsafe for many reasons and it take 1 creep/criminal to change there mind. NTA the landlord should be talked to about this, I hate to hear if kids got kidnapped one day because they were standing in a unlocked hallway waiting for there Mom.
By right op has the right to sue Karen for harassment, defamation and trespassing.
Story 6: The OP didn't go far enough. That lady could have absolutely ruined his life. That is a horrible accusation to level at someone. It could have destroyed his marriage,cost him his job, and his home. He should have had the attorney sue her for slander!
She's just going to do the same thing, to another guy, wherever she winds up.
My upstairs neighbor is a butthurt fellow who is unable maintaining healthy relationships. It's not possible for him to hear my tv because I never hear anything from my downstairs neighbor. Everytime he has a new woman everything is fine and dandy, but when the unevitable fighting commences, he starts his tantrums. He bangs his doors loudly and stomps the floor when he thinks my tv is too loud. I ignore everything and that makes him even more angry. I'm waiting him having either heart attack or aneurysm from elevated blood pressure. Best part is my volume levels are at minimum at nights and the night peace is between 10pm to 7am. He has no valid basis for complaints. And besides, I'm so amused by his bitching that it gives me so much early sadistic joy.
*Story 6-* If someone said something bad about my hubby, I’d be mad too!!! 🤬
*I love my hubby!!!* 🥰😘❤️❤️❤️
And I agree, story #4 was brilliantly handled.
Good on that person for finally telling that man he was being cheated on. Always tell somebody when they're being cheated on. I'm sure there will be people saying that you should mind your own business but those are just the cheaters😉
When I heard good fences make good neighbors I instantly thought of Wiilson from home improvement best neighbor in television history IMHO
They need to talk to the landlord, Fluff. I have been broken into and burgled while single----IT IS NOT SAFE.
Concerning the fence & the tree. I would have agreed to let the neighbor do the tree with a guarantee of liability. Many different kinds of fences need mending.
Last story. WTF DarkFluff. Totally NTA. It’s not OPs fault they were irresponsible with their keys. If I lived there I’d lock that door as well. They need to take responsibility and order new keys from the landlord.
Last Story:
NTA
Of course OP can buy copies if they're willing, but the neighbors aren't entitled to it.
It's not OP's fault the other tenants don't follow procedure and end up losing their keys.
OP should keep it up, their neighbors are the entitled ones that don't know how to follow rules or keep up with their own responsibilities.
I know I sure as hell would. I would probably even double down after the neighbors started being difficult about it.
While OP could have handled it differently, he's not actually the one in the wrong. That's why he isn't the a-hole.
Story 7:
NTA.
OP shouldn't have to sacrifice his peace of mind and personal safety for some stuck up, entitled Karens who think their way is right.
And for that commentor who said he should just let his neighbors copy his key has obviously never rented before. The landlord can push charges for duplicating keys that aren't for OP to duplicate.
The neighbor of the second story wanted to tear down the fence and forget
Story 7. Make a cheap copy of the hallway key and give it to the neighbor. It doesn't cost that much at wally world.
That's slander and defamation. LAWSUIT!!!!!!!!
Last story - NTA I assume OP selected that building because of the secured door. I would inform the landlord of the situation and let them take care of it.
Last story sounds almost more like malicious compliance more than anything. I'm sure somewhere in the lease it probably talks about keeping the hallway door locked, otherwise why give everyone a key? If they lose their key, that's kind of on them, I bet if people actually bothered to lock the door those keys wouldn't be getting lost as much. Besides that, they're probably going to have to pay for a replacement key to the landlord someday anyway since the landlord generally expects keys back if and when they move out, and it probably won't be the same design as the original or be missing a serial number or something. Like, yeah, still let them get their duplicate, or just make a duplicate 'master key' for them, but I'm also willing to bet they probably have 'do not duplicate' inscribed on them.
Story 3 reminds me of an incident I had with an irate customer. I’m a retail shift manager. For some strange reason a woman comes in yelling at me saying I disrespected her daughter and some other incoherent stuff. Another customer comes to my rescue wanting to push her out but she walks out before he’s able to. Customer asks if I’m ok. I told him I’m fine and the jokes on her. The last thing the lady said to me was that I must be broke working a minimum wage job. She had a cheap dye job and bad make up. I told the customer I live in this part of town, very affluent, in my own home. I got lucky in real estate 10 years ago. Most of my neighbors make more than my husband and my salary combined. My house has gone up 50% in value since I bought it. I tell the guy, I doubt she has her own home, let alone one as expensive as mine. Be careful who you insult about being poor.
Yay! Petty time
OP should never have let Karen in that first time. The stupidity of people expecting OP to keep doing just that... WHY did they never go to management (OP included) about this problem? Oh, sure, it would be cheaper to copy OP's key, but how many rules/laws would that have broken? OP could have been evicted, arrested, and who knows what else for violating the lease. I think more people should read their rental agreement again.
Oh man, my first apartment had a courtyard with a walkway and this one dude would talk on the phone and walk all around the circle. I finally opened my window and said, "Hey, since you pay good money to have your own place, would you mind talking inside of it?"
For your last story, I would say OP is NTA. You can never take building security for granted. OP is doing the right and responsible thing by using the key that his landlord/managers gave him specifically to secure the common area. If the other tenants lost their common area key, that is their problem and they should inform the manager. $70 is not unreasonable as a fine for losing your key.
However, I can understand the other tenants frustrations regarding the common area. The best solution would be one of convenience. The landlord/managers should have a common lock core made that can be opened by their unit keys. It’s not difficult for a good locksmith to do this. That way, a tenant only needs to use a single key to open the common areas and their own unit. The landlord could also use an electronic auto lock that is activated via a key fob and a timer. The door would unlock at 8:00 and lock at 18:00 and tenants can use the fob to unlock the common area doors. This is exactly how my complex works.
But suffice it to say, OP shouldn’t be punished for doing the right thing and following his lease agreement.
Last Story: OP is the A-hole for not making duplicate keys for the other neighbors.
Storey 6: I'm sure he would have asked his attorney friend, but surely what she was doing is defamation.
Just so they can all lose their keys again, and for there to be even more keys out in the world that anyone can find and use? No. Not his problem. Not the a hole. He has a right to feel safe in his home.
Story 7. OP is definitely not the a-hole. It’s a dangerous neighborhood. Locked door is safer for everyone. If they don’t have a key to the main door, it’s their problem
#4: Best noise reduction process EVER!!
12:08 Best. Story. Ever. (Story 4) 😂 - just me in Palm Springs 🌴
He is not the a-hole. Not his fault they lost their keys. It's their grown up responsibility to get it replaced if needed. If that door is an included security for the building he has every right to use it and feel as secure as possible in his apartment
Ok, I understand op wanting the hallway locked. I get it. They feel unsafe. But what makes them ta is refusing to allow the residents of the building to have their own keys! Why ? They live there too!
$70 to copy a key??? Holy crap! Are the gold plated or something?
Only keys I can think of that might possibly warrant such a price are so called patented keys. And you can't have those copied without the proper paperwork.
As other commenters have said. That fee might not be just for a new key but for a new lock as well. Someone a few comments above made the point that if a resident lost their key you don’t know who has it so better to replace the lock and everybody’s keys. That’s how it is at my building as well. It’s a $75 fee but the lease agreement even states that that covers new keys and a lock for the door that needed a key replacement
It's probably against the law for him or anyone else to hand out copies of the key. That's probably why he declined to allow her to make copies.
OP’s the one who’s being falsely accused of something life ruining but his wife is the one who needs consoling… yeah
On the last story I do not feel that OP is the A hole. He has every right to lock the door!
shame the lawyer did not involve the postal inspector for mis use of a mailbox...
I was on the fence with the last story, OP had a point about living in a rough area.
But then the neighbours showed they were willing to compromise and asked for OP’s help in getting the keys replaced.
When OP refused, it was an easy verdict of YTA.
$70 is a lot of money to get something as simple as a key replaced, and people with an income that can take that hit wouldn’t be living in that kind of neighbourhood.
I’ve seen people in the comments saying “Well it’s their fault for losing their keys” to which I say no, because up until then, they had no reason to be concerned about the keys and again, the neighbours were willing to compromise and get their keys replaced. They were willing to see the matter from OPs perspective.
Honestly you’d think after all these videos about entitlement, Fluff’s own commenters would know better.
No, he isn't the AH. Bad neighborhood especially. In a building with single mothers and kids? That is a target. Just because people have gotten used to the laziness, doesn't mean its the right thing to do.
The fact that op won’t let the other tenants copy a key they have a right to have? It’s not his apartment key.
As far as the final story goes, the new neighbor has every right to lock the hallway door, especially if they know the risk to themselves by leaving it unlocked. They are also right for not giving up their key to one of the neighbors and making a copy of the neighbors, it would the managing companies responsibility to issue hallway keys to all residents of the property. This could also cause an insurance issue because, most building insurance policies require that the building is secure, by leaving the door unlocked, they are opening up the residents to further liability. Again, the Landlord needs to provide the residents with a key to the Hallway, if they don't its not the new neighbors problem.
Story 4. I would NOT be the fun neighbor. The second a party starts under my deck, im getting out the hose. "Get off my lawn ya drunks"
Last story: nta. It's not OP's problem that the others don't want to pay to replace their keys, nor is it his responsibility for their mess ups.
5th one OP sucks for that party, the police sucks for not taking action. the upstair neighbor is not a karen in my opinion in regard to calling the police there i would have done the same if someone is having a massive party late at night. i dont give a damn if someones home team won a big sporting event it still a ahole move.
When the Crazy neighbour started to accuse OP of being a Pedo., they should have called their Lawyer to Sue her for Slander, Libel and Defamation of Character...
I would have...
Hallway Door Story: Making copies of a house key would not fly with me either, as those type of keys normally are safety keys and no key maker in their right mind would copy those without proof of ownership/registration with their safety code card, as that is illegal here (Germany). Having said that, hallway doors here usually close by themselves after opening them, and they cannot be opened from the outside without a key or tampering. It sucks having multiple keys, tbh. Lucklily, most apartments nowadays come with an all-in-one system, so that you can use the same key for apartment and hallway.
Sue the neighbor for libel and slander.