How To Overtake On A Motorcycle | Riding Tips #4
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Overtaking is one of those things that at some point in your riding life, you're going to need to overtake. It could be because of a broken down Vehicle or another road user traveling at slower speeds. By knowing some basic safety rules and the do's and don'ts of overtaking, you'll become a more confident and skilled rider and you'll be able to apply these skills safely and correctly throughout your riding life.
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"there will always be another opportunity to overtake" very wise
Useful advice for new riders ...
To describe the highway code ruling (Rule 129, i think ) about "Solid White Lines" (and other solid painted areas) more accurately "we must not straddle or cross the solid white lines" unless "certain conditions" exist.
In an emergency situation, or when passing stationary (parked) vehicles, or crossing them when property access is required, or when other vulnerable road users and agricultural vehicles are moving at less than 10 mph and it is safe to do so, or when directed otherwise by official road signage or uniformed persons of authority.
Its amazing how many drivers hold us up because they are unaware of the actual rules stated in our Highway Code.
That usually causes frustration and can lead to accidents developing out of poor judgement as a direct result.
Best motto to recall there is "More Paint = More Restraint"
Thanks for sharing !
I did my first overtake the other day on my 125cc scooter, past a lorry and campervan on a dual carriageway, that was fun!
Passed my mod 2 moto 😁 saving for my cbr 600rr now 🙌
Fantastic, Clarkie. Congratulations. Enjoy that 600. 🤜🤛
Great video as always, I'm having lessons at the moment. My mate had one. Lesson, passed his test and we have been arguing for hours about lifesavers. I was telling him that when I change my position in the road I do a life saver. When I do a life saver I look over my shoulder into my blind spot, he says that is a glance and a life saver is when you look what is behind you in the same way you look when when you pull away from the side of the road or do a U turn. He believes when you overtake someone you look behind you rather what I believe to be my blind spot. I use my mirrors to see what is behind me. If he is right then I may as well take my mirrors off if I'm looking directly behind me when going 60+mph. Please clear this up. I kept telling him I have heard no one use the word glance. If I come to a roundabout and look to my right and see a car so slow down. That look had potentially saved my life. He doesn't see that as a lifesaver wtf? Please help
From what you've described, you're actually both correct. When, like you said, change position you always do a lifesaver. The lifesaver itself is not a glance but a check. You're physically turning your head and eyes to check your blind spot, the blind spot being the area you can't see in your mirrors or in your peripheral vision. You also do a lifesaver when you pull away from the side of the road, before doing a U-turn, before turning into junctions/new roads and also just pulling away if you have to stop for any reason. Again you're checking your blind spot to make sure no one is passing on what ever side you're checking. A lifesaver isn't for checking what's behind you, that's what your mirrors are for. A lifesaver is for checking the area you cannot see. That lifesaver is giving you vital information that your mirrors can't provide i.e passing traffic, cyclists, pedestrians etc. You also use your mirrors before doing anything with the bike like speeding up, slowing down, signalling and of course, before a lifesaver. You do this so you're aware of how your actions may affect other road users. For example, if you don't do a mirror check before slowing down you may be unaware of a vehicle travelling to close behind you and all of sudden they run into the back of you, this again is a mirror check not a lifesaver. I don't use the phrase glance I was never taught that way. A glance implies a quick check, when in reality you want to have a good look. At the end of the day your safety is on the line so a quick glance may not always be enough. As for the roundabout scenario, I'm not entirely sure what you mean. Do you mean you see a car approaching from the right or do you mean you're checking for a car on your right while on the roundabout? These are obviously two different scenarios. If you're approaching a roundabout then there's no need to do a lifesaver on the approach unless you have to switch lanes. If there is a car on the roundabout coming from the right then you simply stop and wait for a gap, however, if you had to stop for several seconds or longer then you would have to do your left and right blind spot check to make sure no one had slipped up the inside of you in your lane while you were waiting. If it was the case of you were on the roundabout and you were checking to see if there was a car to your right, then you would need to do a lifesaver to check to make sure they're not trying to cut over to your lane etc. And you obviously need to do one or maybe more lifesavers when taking your exit. If there's anything that's still unclear just let me know.
Also for the overtake, you check your mirrors and your blind spot. An overtake is no different to any other maneuver that involves moving the bikes position.
Great videos, passed test beginning of December last year and now got my big girls bike so just building up confidence in overtaking. Recognise all these roads and that was my biking buddy with the L plates 😉 Pleased to say she passed this year.
Hey, Karen. Glad you like the videos. Congrats to you and your friend on the passing. 🤜🤛
@@MotoEcosse thank you, wish I did it years ago but better late than never 😂 So much to learn but loving my ER-6N, a bit different to the Ducati Scrambler I learned on🤣
You would be a great instructor! Really like the way you explain everything 😁
Great advice dude, well explained 👍
Nice video. Thanks
Great vlog, very helpful tips. Now doing some prep for my CBT.
Thanks, Craig. If there's anything you're unsure of, let me know. 🤜🤛
That’s very kind of you, thanks very much.
Just started following you on Instagram. My username is watchrestoreguy
@@craig9143 Not a problem, Craig. Appreciate the Instagram follow as well mate. 🤜🤛
I am sorry but the voice just sounds like someone I work with.. I just want to ask you questions about a report you sent me 🤣
Keep up the great work, you do this channel because you love to do it and it comes across 👍
I still look forward to an hour of you riding around and just talking… watching Scotland and listening is an escape (please raise the camera so it just clips the top of the mirrors, want to see what I would see if riding)
🤣🤣 that's brilliant. I do have a few touring style videos in the works at the moment. 🤜🤛
Good video. Nearly killed myself the other day doing a bad overtake being inpatient behind a lorry. Pulled out and couldn't get back in. If I would have got past him I would have crash into a central reservation and had to go on the other side of the road. Bad riding on my part but definitely a lesson learnt.
I admire your courage making this video yesterday considering the weather we've been having! I was at Loch Lomond on Saturday but managed to get back to Glasgow before the really bad rain later that afternoon.
Yeah it wasn't ideal lol. It's definitely not the kind of weather I recommend riding in. It does make good practice incase you get caught out though.
@@MotoEcosse yeah definitely. I only got a bit wet but had dried by the time I got back.
@@statusredrides2019 Took me 2 days to dry my boots 🤣🤣. Definitely reminds me to always keep my waterproofs in my bag.
@@MotoEcosse haha brilliant so how much longer were you in at after the end of the video?
@@statusredrides2019 I actually stayed out for about another hour and recorded a riding in the wet video. Seemed like the right time 🤣🤣
Evening mate, bloody great video's. Thanks for sharing buddy an ya time. Hope ya didn't get too wet... Lol. Those clouds looked nice 😂😂😂
Cheers, Andy. Aye, got absolutely drenched 🤣🤣. Wets are always in my bag now 🤣.
Hey love the videos and I was the rider in front of you that you kindly hung back from. Thanks for that I appreciated it. I remember seeing you 😁. I have now passed my full test and having fun on the road .. keep up the videos 👍👍🏍
Hey, Audrey. That's awesome, congratulations on the pass. 🤜🤛
@@MotoEcosse thanks 🍻. Still watching the videos all still a big learning curve 👍
Great vid! Could you possibly do a video on filtering through traffic? Keep up the good work
Thanks mate. Yeah I've got a filtering video due to go up in the next few weeks. 🤜🤛
@@MotoEcosse cool I’ll look forward to that then 👍🏼
Looking fwd to riding in the wet video. Passed MOD 2 two weeks ago. Was out in rain last week I know it's in my head but....... It gave me the fear 😱😱😱
Congrats on that pass, Gordon. You're definitely not alone mate. Everyone's first ride in the wet is always scary. That'll pass pretty quickly the more you ride in the wet. 🤜🤛
1st ..😃 ....nice upload
Thanks bud. 🤜🤛
Hey, dude, good video! I just wanted to offer up some commentary, as someone who is an IAM observer who has also had a bit of IAM Masters training/demoing. Whilst I think the whole OSM PSL is mostly alright for learners, for those past their testing days, the use of IPSGA would be a lot better for that; IPSGA being Information, Position, Speed, Gear, Acceleration. Information is the phase that continues through the whole system, which covers a lot of the points you covered in the beginning section. A way to simplify it, especially for maybe newer riders, would be SLAP: is it Safe, is it Legal, what will you Achieve, and Perception (what other road users will think of it). Position is relatively obvious, Speed is using your throttle or brakes to set your speed, Gear is selecting a flexible gear for the situation (a point I commend you on for bringing up), then Accelerate (or stop, as necessary). For an overtake where you will be matching the speed of the proceeding car, it will usually go like this: SLAP, observations and identify a potential opportunity (visually or local knowledge, but visually is the only one to rely on), identify your landing space, observations again. From position 2 and 2 seconds back, when you see an opportunity arise, move to position 3 and move up to about 1 to 1.5 second gap (only if the opportunity will be coming up incredibly soon, IE, less than 5 seconds), move out into oncoming lane, identify your decision is safe, (if necessary) indicate right then accelerate, cancelling signal as you move back in. To use your indicator when you're planning an overtake is to say "I am doing this", whereas to move out without indicating, it's not confirming anything. As my observer said, an indicator is not asking for permission or forgiveness, it's saying what you're doing that's different from the normal flow of traffic. I completely appreciate your videos are ultimately destined to help newer riders, I just wanted to offer something up! If you wanted to do a bit more research on advanced riding, check out Mike Roberts' and Reg Local's channels, they're both IAM National Observers that have lots of good videos on advanced riding. I would also recommend doing a trial ride with your local IAM or RoSPA group, advanced riding might seem like an old man's thing, but as a 20 year old, it has transformed my riding. Best of luck and apologies for the essay!
Appreciate the comment mate, lots of good info. Yeah doing RoSPA this year and start training next year to be an instructor. 🤜🤛
@@MotoEcosse Best of luck, dude, you'll definitely enjoy it. Might also be worth doing the training to become a tutor for RoSPA, I've become an observer instead of a DVSA instructor because I don't like a lot of what they're teaching
Thank you. Cant help but notice the gear you picked when overtaking, that's why the video jumped to you pulling back in.
Passed in 3rd and changed up to to 4th just before pulling in. Standard overtake. 👍
In the overtake that you did was there really any need to indicate? I'm sure when you move over to othe other side of the road you are showing your intention to overtake and then when moving back in I'm sure the vehicle that you did overtake would expect you to move back in. The reason I say this is because it's 2 less things to do when overtaking.
No, indicating is always essential. It allows any vehicles infront or behind you know your intentions. 🤜🤛
is filtering not ok in that place?
Talk about desperate for content! How to overtake? Hahahah, oh come on!
Wow really? Don't like it, don't watch. You obviously don't understand how many accidents happen due to poor overtaking.