The Most Powerful Move That Was NERFED
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14:51 - Gen 5, What if BOOM was never Nerfed?
16:27 - Gen 6
17:39 - Gen 7
18:44 - Gen 8
20:07 - Gen 9
20:56 - Outro
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GO GO GADGET GEN 1 GOLEM EXPLOSION
Perhaps the next theorem video could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite theorem
@@playersnake Why Sabotage (Taunt, Encore, Magic Bounce, Toxic/Twave/Wisp, etc) is Close to Everything - Sableye Theorem
(Or maybe some other Pokemon would be better to name it after, Sableye was just the first to come to my mind)
@@GoldGuard I’m not talking about only status moves, but moveset that got them the most success. But that is a good idea for a therom video
Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪
In an alternate universe: "How GOOD was killing yourself actually?"
The electrode theorem
The Low Tier God theorem
That one could also cover other self-KO moves like Memento and Final Gambit.
Codel theorem
@@bluekirby_64 Or even the act of switching in something low HP that will die to rocks mid-turn to prevent an opponent's defog/rapid spin.
“Zapdos, Magneton, I do this for you… and yes, even you, Celebi.”
I understood this reference.
Vegeta 🫡
"YOUR GOING TO HELL WITH ME LANDORUS!"
“I’m going to CRIT you, and throw you to the wind!”
Majin vegeta be like
"GENGAR IS DEAD! FINALLY I CAN KILL MYSELF!"
-Metagross probably
*HURTING SOMEONE BY KILLING MYSELF
Well tbh, nobody’s stopping Metagross from kjlling itself if it wants to
Saw this meme in a Freezai video
I was thinking of the music for Quartz Quadrant Bad Future while watching this
The funny thing about Swampert getting Damp in Gen 5 is it was one gen too late. Imagine it being able to stop Explosion in Gen 4.
True
Metagross would be in shambles
And then it got a Mega with Swift Swim..... In gen 6 after perma-rain was gone.
Swampert just lives in a Twilight Zone episode
@@ksul0014Game Freak just loves to prank Swampert.
"Kaboom?"
"Yes, Gengar. Kaboom."
Mr pelo sfx***
😂😂😂😂😂
Loved the reference!!
The weird thing about pre-nerf Explosion/Self-Destruct is that the games themselves never tells you about the defense halving mechanic.
Now obviously, the mechanic exists because moves are coded in 8-bit, thus base power of move cannot be above 255, but I always find it strange that this mechanic is completely hidden from the player.
I never knew about the defense halving mechanic until I got into competitive Pokémon 7 years ago.
yeah there aren't any "patch notes" or anything like that for Pokemon afaik so a lot of these weird quirks are things you HAVE to stumble upon through discovery, or through word of mouth/the internet
Eh that's not the reason. Being 8-bit doesn't mean you have a maximum integer size of 8 bits (256 total values). Using only 8 bits for move BP was an active choice by the developers, and it's most likely because Explosion and Selfdestruct were the only two moves that would've taken advantage of an extra byte. It would have been a waste of precious space for every other move. It's also possible those two moves were added in late, after the move data structure was already established and implemented.
You just repeated what the guy said?
I think in the context of singleplayer, telling the player "this move does 250 damage and kills the user" and "this move does 250 damage and kills the user and halves the opponent's defense" doesn't really make a difference because 250 is such a higher number than 90, that both statements convey "this move is a nuke," but the former is less wordy and has less potential for confusion.
@@snolls105"this move does 500 damage" would have almost all conceivable advantages of either
If Game Freak thinks it's okay to have moves that can scale up to over 200 BP with no negative effects on the user (like Rage Fist and Last Respects) then they should bring back SD/Explosion halving the target's defense
Yeah or they just nerf rage fist and last respects
Just because fate fist and last respects are broken doesn’t mean SD or explosion should also be broken.
@@rustyy674
Honestly, just having those moves increase by 25BP per stack with a maximum of 5 stacks would be perfectly fine. No idea wtf they were smoking to make those they way they currently are.
@LocalHobo631 If their answer to power creep is "just make everything new, busted" instead of coming up with actual unique solutions, then there's no excuse to nerf a tool for older Pokémon who already struggle to keep up.
Meta has evolved enough to not consider explosion a threat. Steels everywhere, rock not being as terrible in general, hail doubling defense of ice, and several viable ghost. Also, meta being far faster and substitute are a thing
snorlax doesn't physically explode, he engages in self-destructive behavior
*Gets on Twitter.*
*sees fat people unable to take responsibility on Twitter*
Yep, pretty appropriate.
"Snorlax used self-destruct!"
"Snorlax... starts to eat more and denies getting fatter?"
He becomes Thor after he killed Thanos.
He farts so much that faint him self
Explosion was the funniest move when you switch in your ghost type on prediction against the opponent's explosion. Just felt satisfying
Chronomon's Holy Flare Has A Base Power Of At Least 200 In The First Three Digimon World DS Games,DS,Dawn,Dusk!Then It Got Nerfed To 75 In Lost Evolution!
Ur everywhere.
@chimuoma390 Why do you always talk about digimon on these Pokémon video's?
*Fun fact:* Self-Destruct and Explosion originally halved Defense because it was intended to be double its actual power, but a move's base power couldn't be higher than 255.
Is that confirmed, or just a theory? It makes a ton of sense but Nintendo doesn't often acknowledge gameplay quirks
@JellyLocke not a gameplay quirk, a coding quirk. 255 is as high an 8 bit integer can go
Shoutout to that one guy (forgot his name) from Pokemon Colosseum with that full Explosion team
Codel is his name.
@@justinnzamora5366 Thanks
Also shout-out to Hiker Dudley, also known as that guy with the two Geodudes and a Graveler who all like to go boom on unsuspecting solo challenge runners.
in codel we trust
How about that Rocket Executive with 5 Koffings and one weezing all with boom
SD & Explosion really are those two moves that just about give you a heart attack 9 out of every 10 times you see the other Pokémon use them.
It becomes 10 out 10 if you’re doing a Nuzlocke.
pretty much, and since mons like graveler are common wild spawns in the late game, your bound to run into those moves quite often
I still have Hgss nuzlocke nightmares
As someone who is playing Pokemon Unboind as s Nuzlocke on Insane mode I can relate to that
It certainly made my late-game grind on my X Nuzlocke an absolute nightmare.
Of course the highest level area to train for the Pokémon League is also full of exploding Graveller(!)
And if you play X or Y without using the experience share like I did on that run, you'll find the level curve to be harsh in the midgame and downright BRUTAL in the late game. I needed that exp, the explosion grind was almost mandatory!
XD Gale of Darkness Mount Battle #99.......
Houdini is called that because the person who first used it always led a Metagross nicknamed Houdini. It was also used as Skarmory bait.
Surprised you didn't talk about how team preview would be a huge buff for explosion. In older generations, whenever you used explosion early you always risked the possibility of needing that pokemon for an enemy that hasn't been revealed yet. With team preview, this dynamic goes away making explosion less risky as it's much easier to tell if you'll need a pokemon later in the game
On the other hand seeing a Boom user on the enemy team would let you play around that with your resists and ghosts
@@TheGreatDanishThen again, you wouldn’t necessarily know that Explosion is being carried.
@@skeetermania3202more emphasis on “high risk, high reward”.
I feel like explosion should be rebuffed along with hyper beam.
Power creep has made their original forms less overkill and its a good risk/reward play
They should bring back Hyper Beam's Gen 1 effect and so the same for Giga Impact. Probably not for its variants though since those can be super-effective (plus Overgrow/Blaze/Torrent) and would probably turn the game into a spam fest. But HB/GI/Boom being Normal type balances them out well
And for the love of Arceus, Game Freak needs to stop making recharge moves, they'll never be good lol
Can you imagine if they had buffed it in gen 9 and then you tera normal self-destruct or explosion?
@@GoldGuard Uh-huh nope. I don't want Porygon-Z and Sylveon running rampant on my teams just by clicking Hyper Beam. Especially with something like Tera-Normal Crawdaunt suddenly cracking walls like they were cake with Giga Impact
@@GoldGuard Roar of Time should 100% get it, maybe with a BP nerf so Dialga isn't too ridiculous. It's literally Roar of *Time*, it makes thematic sense to have it get around recharge on KO
Nah sd and explosion are obnoxious af. Plus with focus sash and sturdy working the way it works, it would be easy to spam
Farewell Clefable, Exeggutor and yes even you, Tarous…
*Gengar used Explosion*
*Gengar fainted*
Where is this from?
@@1ryannow476 It's from Vegeta's sacrifice in Dbz
Gengar noooo..
@@minhnhuthuynhle4656Gengar yesssssss!!!!!!!!
Mewjin Tuu
"Gengar, no!"
"Gengar, YEEEEEEESSS!"
Gengar does not fear death.
@@beanslinger2 What is dead may never die.
Is the thumbnail w dragonball reference ? 😅
All the TFS references 😂
And so the narrator came back to tell you that Gengar fucking died
(any resemblance to Gengars competitive career after losing Levitate purely accidental)
GameFreak: Boom is too good we have to nerf it!!!
Also GameFreak: ***makes rage fist and last respects****
The thing is those moves are single-target, meaning that in the official competitive format (VGC), they can't just clear your opponent's side of the field in a single turn. Explosion on the other hand could do that, meaning that you could theoretically end battles in just two turns. Also Codel showed how you could shut down Protect with a mon having both Protect and Imprison on the same moveset.
Plus in order for those moves to get to those stupid base powers you need a lot of setup, something that just isn't possible in VGC with how fast-paced it is.
In singles they're absolutely busted that's for sure, but in VGC that's not the case.
@@AceAviations2 Last Respects just requires that your team faints (which happens as long as you don't win), though VGC being 4v4 limits it to 150-200bp.
Side note, is the _format_ officially called "Video Game Championships", or is it a shorthand?
Alolan Golem with pre nerf Explosion
600 BP lmao
still does nothing to diglett
Don't forget Mega Glalie either, that thing had access to the pre-nerf 'ate' abilities, so Refigerate Explosion would be even scarier.
Bruh an electric boom 😭😭
@@Rarest26900 after the stab boost
Ironically actually did face one of these on vgc ladder in reg C, trick room team. I double protected to stall out trick room as he used explosion next to a Rabsca (with blessing used up). I didn't even realize he'd explode. Cue understandable disconnection.
Can't believe that he was so broken that they nerfed codel (the explosion guy in colosseum)
No mention of Mega Galie or Aloan Golem with their Refrigerate/Galvanize Explosion, Mega Glalie already ran Explosion as a move. So an un-nerfed (gen 6) Refrigerate Explosion would be even more of a nuke than it already is.
They’re both nowhere near OU so I doubt it matters much here. Worth keeping in mind in their respective tiers tho
@Rarest26 Ice type Fridge Boom would shoot Mega Glalie into OU. Only thing it thuds into is Protect and Heatran as the only common 4x Ice resist.
Effective 975 BP with no immunities is absurd.
@@DeckKnight You raise a good point, but keep in mind. It’s a mega. There’s a lot of opportunity cost with those, and I don’t think most people would be super excited to use their one on an explosion. Not saying it wouldn’t be tried out, but I don’t see it being a common pick. Especially in oras due to the speed change thing.
I actually love using Mega Glalie. If you explode and take something down (pretty likely with refrigerate), great! If you severely dent something, a teammate can revenge. If you barely damage something, you still get a free switch.
0:11 Funny boom man go brrrrrr
The thumbnail goes insanely hard with that Majin Vegeta and Buu reference, props to the artist
In the VGC ladder of SV I saw often various people testing with tera normal Explosion shenanigans.
One that I remember fondly from Regulation D was Choice Band Tera Normal Self-Destruct Overqwil as part of a rain team, because even outside this powerful (and fast) boom with rain it was also a decent threat.
For an additional mean bonus the team also had Chien-Pao, that could easily Protect or use Tera Ghost (instead of tera on Overqwil) and stay safe while giving a smaller version of the pre-nerf boom thanks to Sword of Ruin.
Using Explosion and self-destruct are equivalent to to Android 16's Explosion and Vegeta's Final Atonement
"Negative one! Negative two! Negative -"
*A critical error has occured.*
We can only imagine the horrors of Z-Explosion!
I'm not sure it would be bad? The Z move doesn't keep the traits of it's base if I remember, so it's probably stay as a 200 base power like it is now.
Normalium-Z turns Explosion into A 200 BP Breakneck Blitz, it actually gets *weaker*
When you think about it they were pretty crazy moves in the first few gens. A 400/500 bp nuke with a 100% to flinch, given that it lands, and gives you momentum.
Blissey: “You look tasty! I make you chocolate!”
Gengar: “You are a fool- I’m going to crush you, and throw you into the wind!”
“…I do this for you, Agility Empoleon…”
A proud explosion prince.
Metagross: "This is farewell. Celebi... Zapdos... and even you, best buddy. (Salamence)
Tyranitar: "Metagross, no!!"
Metagross: Metagross... YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!"
A wild Dragon Ball Z reference appeared!
I wish they never nerfed it. Explosion did and still does have a lot of counterplay.
Big agree. And when it works, it makes problematic stallers much less of an issue
It's probably because of the shift to doubles formats as the official one. In singles the potential trade is quite strategic. In doubles it might be a bit too much power than they wanted for a spread move and meta warping to demand people bring multiple normal resist/immunities at all times just to deal with explosions.
I think the bigger issue is that the best counter play without forcing a switch is forcing protect, and protect is just so powerful you cant be throwing it around just hoping that they exploded on that turn
I think it's super troll tbh glad it's gone
@@Aquilenne Yea its definitely that, but its funny that nowadays with multiple excellent ghosts and wide guard existing, it could maaaaaybe be tolerable. Also damp but nothing good gets it so who cares.
There's also the ability Damp later on to prevent Explosion or SD completely
I think these moves should be buffed back a bit, but not necessarily power-wise.
-Both use user's higher attacking stat
-Buff Explosion's power to 300, power creep is steadily approaching 200 power with much less self-destructive moves
-Make Self-Destruct a single-target move that bypasses screens, etc., partially bypasses Protect (like Z/Max moves), and flinches the opponent (replicating early gen behaviour), to differentiate it from Explosion with extra utility. The lore explaination would be that Explosion is just you exploding right there and then, while SD makes you get up close and then KAPOW.
Have Explosion's BP scale additionally with your remaining HP. This way, Explosion really only start to hurt at better HP thresholds, while giving faster mons a chance of survival by nerfing the damage if they can't pick up the K.O.
I feel like the move bp power creep is stuck more at 120. Game Freak will not let moves go near 150 bp unless they're: an SD move, Boomburst, or Last Respects/Rage Fist specifically in Singles - 6v6 Singles more specifically for the former.
@@christiancinnabars1402 a couple gens ago we got 150bp Mind Blown/Steel Beam that have half the downside for more than half the power of self-destructing moves, and this gen we got 160bp Gigaton Hammer/Blood Moon that are pretty much Hyper Beam except you can act while recharging. At this pace we'll get moves that just have 200bp with no downside by gen 13.
@@TheLaXandro Gigaton Hammer is exclusive to a Pokémon with a base Attack of 75, so the high BST is balanced out a bit.
Blood Moon is on a 'Mon that might not even leave Gen 9.
I personally treat self-destruct and explosion in playthrough's as a sort of "last resort", like if you know the mon who have out who knows one of those moves is going down soon, you might as well go for a kamikaze for some big damage
And then they added a move actually called "Last Resort", and it actually doesn't kill you.
Video starts 2:41
Hero
a cool addition could be type boom moves with additional effects, less power, but also do something interesting (preferably not obvious).
- cloud seed - steel move that sets the rain condition.
- vacum zone - electric move to set up winds.
- fairy dust - fairy move, the next pokemon to enter the field get healed.
- rock frack - water move to set up sand.
The blissey in the thumbnail has two tongues.
W H Y ?!
Dragon Ball reference
No it doesn't. Tongues are just sometimes drawn with a line down the middle.
We also have to consider Mega Glalie and Alolan Golem
Not only do their explosions gain STAB, becoming Ice and Electric respectively, but also get a boost from the ability, so Mega Glalie would have a 650 BP Explosion in Gen 6, while just being 600 BP in Gen 7 and beyond, and this alone would make Mega Glalie and Alolan Golem more viable because of the sheer power their explosions have.
in pokemon xd gale of darkness electrode was actually a great pokemon for the orre collosseum (the brutally hard post game tournament which was basically the closest you can get to single player competitive, that thing required you to plan ahead and do EV training).
electrode was great thanks to its speed and access to explosion.
it made a good combo with dusklops and forretress.
I had to use it with forretress in order to beat eldess despite the fact that he had pokemon that could handle explosions.
dusclops wasn't just immune to the explosion, it could even boost its power with the pseudo-stab known as helping hand.
Last hurrah for Explosion to me was on Mega Glalie in OR/AS. The sheer power of it was fun to play with, opening holes in the opponents' team and potentially gaining a lot of value if Glalie was already weakened and snagged a full health opponent, helping this was refrigerate not only bumping up the power and potentially super effectively hit things with it, but also just removing the chance of ghost types switching in! Probably not as powerful as the old double-power booms of times past, but still very nice that protect or ice resistant physical walls only being able to slightly slow it.
It was unfortunate that Alomomola was in the same tier as Glalie when I used it, but leaving it at ~60% while giving a switch-in to another mon at least put some pressure on the opposing team to recover from this worst case scenario for Glalie's boom.
I love using Mega Glalie in natdex. People love to set up on it, which creates great opportunities for it to explode.
Imagine a timeline with Tera-Electric Galavanize Alolan Golem with pre-nerf Explosion. I don’t care if it’s not that efficient, just imagine that
Who whoa whoa! Don't start World War III there!
@@bentowers3614 If you want to make it even worse add in the pre-nerf Electric Terrain boost (1.5x) and the pre-nerf 'ate' abilities (yes Galvanize didn't exist in gen 6, but it would have had a 1.3x boost). That could probably blow up the world.
Still won’t do anything as long as there’s a ground type which, spoilers, there’s always a ground type.
Gen 2 Explosion specifically honestly might be one of the strongest, meta-warping moves in Pokémon history. Special offense was at an all-time low in Gen 2 thanks to the Special stat split and a near complete lack of special boosting options (only Sp. Atk boosting move is Growth, and no useful held items existed yet) among other things. Thanks to “Boom”, special attackers can afford to have any sense of utility at all in such a bulky generation dominated by RestTalk and powerful special walls. But without “Boom Offense”, the game would become even more physically biased than it already was.
I'm surprised you didn't really talk about boom teams. They may have been a gimmick, but my childhood self watching in horror as the opponent blew up each of their Pokemon would have appreciated it
YOU REFERENCED SCYKOH! What a legend!
12:11 Kellen saying "hell" jumpscared me
I feel that some attacks now are so stupidly strong (think Rage Fist or Fishious Rend) that the cost of losing a pokemon for not that much more power wouldn't necessarily be worth it. Obviously that depends on distribution, but in a vacuumm...
Kaboom? Yes Ricco Kaboom. *Explosion*
Majin Vegeta reference. Nice👌🏾
That thumbnail is literally a Majin Vegeta remix
No mention of Aftermath Drifblim? and i had such a great joke too
"Hooray to the Mesosphere!"
"Finally we can die"
Hell yeah to the Apollo justice music at the beginning
I was looking for this comment! Doing a playthrough and was thinking I was imagining things.
I love the reoccurring theme of Dragon Ball references in these thumbnails, keep it up!
I remember how as a wee lad I used to struggle against the Team Rocket Grunt that goes Boom in the Gym Leader Castle in Stadium 2.
I love rocking a team I called "4 Boom" in Gen III, which was just four mons with Explosion/Self Destruct, with CM Suicune as a win-con and Magneton to trap steels.
Man I loved Boom in the earlier gens, and after Jim Cool brought back the Gen 3 Renaissance it really reminded me how much it added to so much dimension to a lot of different mons play. It kind of changed the nature of how you even had to use a defensive poke. I can just imagine how much gen 8 could have been improved by Boom returning to it's old glory.
full powered explosion would be a legitimate meta in VGC and would 100% add another layer of meta-antimeta strategies. you'd also get tinted lens and scrappy explosion setups, there'd be some pokemon who'd actually run damp as an ability, and instead of just tera normal ekiller sets you'd also see tera normal boom sets, especially in vgc. not to mention, way more mons would run sash/sturdy just to live the boom and get off one turn of whatever they'd want to do. ghost types as explosion blanks would be also much more common, but what would be REALLY interesting would be aerilate/pixilate booms as well
Bro galvanized explosion (or self destruct. IDK which one alola golem gets) would prolly be one of the strongest electric type moves ever if there was no boom nerf. Especially in electric terrain.
Go! Great tusk
@@EggscellentTreejust tera water bro
In Pokémon sv I’ve been using shell smash minior with explosion paired with Alolan ninetails polosand and wugtrio. I lead with ninetails and minior shell smash and Aurora viel turn 1.
Turn 2 I switch Alolan ninetails out for polosand and click explosion on the minior so polosands ghost typing prevents it being hurt while I do huge damage to the oponet then I get a free pivot into wugtrio.
Turn 3 I tripple dive into the polosand triggering weakness policy and water compaction 3 times granting polosand a +6 defence and +2 attack and special attack and during the same turn I can use shore up or amnesia healing polosand or giving it a +2 special defense ontop of the other stat boosts.
It would be pretty cool if SD and Explosion were guaranteed crits, so that they'd break through Defence boosted mons and get just that little boost.
And then maybe a held item that boosts the damage of crits, so that a dedicated Exploder could regain the former glory of the Half-Defence feature (1.5 crit x 1.333 crit item = 2x total).
sniper
You know what I wish would return? having it so there's no 'recharge' period if you K O with Hyperbeam.
Hell to the nah nah. Adaptability Porygon-Z and Pixilate Sylveon would run wild.
@@nolongeraperson PG-Z fails against ghost types, particularly against Annihilape. Its only special anti-ghost coverage move is Dark Pulse (which does neutral damage to ape). Sylveon's a bit more rough, but most of the good stall mons are resistant to fairy anyway (Toxapex, any steels) or have high Sp.Df anyway (Blissey).
@@therexyogaming I'm not positive, but I think porygon z also gets shadowball.
@@numbcube6729 Edit: It does, via TR. I'll look to see if there's any good meta counters to that, but also keep in mind Hisiuian Zoaroark does exist
@@therexyogaming That doesn't change much. You still suddenly have an easy sweeper who can just click 1 button to go ham. They can be your backup to your normal setup sweeper while still performing their normal roles like before, like Sylveon being a Sp.Def tank while now also being a nuker.
I miss ScykohPlays.
I am a veteran apparently.
I started with the pokemon stadium playthrough if I recall correctly. Never beat stadium or the gen 1 games since I tried to play them in parallel. Always get stuck at Mr Fix
@@TheStickCollector I watched him starting with his very first sunshine video, which was basically the first playthrough he did. :3
Same here.
I found him way back with the sunshine and Nuts and bolts glitchfest. Hope he's doing alright.
Same
Man, full boom teams are just so much fun. Surprised there wasn't any mention of Mega Glalie or Alolan Golem. With their type changing abilities they could make for some very potent cornerstones for full explosion teams. Another Pokemon that I could see jumping up a ton from old Explosion is Silvally. A support Pokemon that can be any type is a huge boon for teambuilding and Parting Shot is great for keeping up momentum.
Not sure if this would keep me in the game after the King's Rock ban, but even if you can't overcome Ghosts with Explosion alone, you can find Dark types like Alolan Muk to do the job as well
One of my favorite things to do in gen 7 was Z Explosion lead Azelf. Stealth Rock, Z Explosion (sacrifice 50 BP to still live after), Normal Explosion sets hazards and does huge chunks
Explosion, the move that goes boom mostly on chansey & blissey in this video
Theorizing about how certain dropped mechanics would work in later gens is a great idea, the expanded topics in general have been fun to watch
I used to play a gen4OU boom team with regirock, metagross, azelf, heatran, and gyarados + lucario to have the remains. It was super fun forcing a 2v2 on players getting caught by surprise.
I loved when was I able to predict and put up a protect. 😊
We have a move that can scale up to 300 BP with no secondary effect in Last Respects.
I think we can bring back Explosion and SD’s Defense halving secondary effect with it’s original RBY BP.
Maybe we could even do something similar for Misty Explosion, except with Special Defense.
Last Respects can go even higher if you use a 'Mon with Revival Blessing.
It can scale into the thousands if you're just doing it against the in-game trainers and you use revives to bring them back.
I thought for sure you'd mention Alolan Golem in gen 7 with the Galvanize ability.
Explosion being this strong in the first four regions is real world accurate. Yikes.
Also VGC matches ending even faster is certainly something
Should get a boost to its power of used in Slateport City, though.
@@88porpoiseI think you mean Castelia City
That's evil
@@briandinh9169both, LOL
@@briandinh9169 Nope, Slateport is what I mean. The other option is not part of any region in a main series game.
On a side note, I like how you sometimes use damage calcs and put them side by side to prove your point.
That thumbnail really referenced majin vegeta’s explosion on majin buu scene
A video on all the different terms you hear in Competitive Pokemon would be cool - like checks, balance, counters, etc.
Dragalge, magcargo, drifblim or rotom and all of his forms! 💪💪💪
I see you with that Apollo Justice music, FSG!!! Great choice 😎
Halving defense is intentional in Gen I as Stadium would display their base power as twice the amount. But as they re-adjusted their powers in Gen 2, they seem to forgot to remove the halving of defense in boom moves until Gen 5.
That Apollo Justice soundtrack though.
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I’m not sure if you’d be interested in a video idea like this, but I would be very interested to hear an analysis on a hypothetical Metagame, where all 4 battle Gimmicks from Megas to Tera were allowed. How would meta like that look like.
Or you could even throw the gen5 gems to the mix if more chaos is needed. Just an idea, I always speculate how the gimmicks would interract with each other. Would Z moves be able to destroy Dynamax Pokemon more easily, causing fear on dynamaxed Pokemon making them waste turns on Max Guard predicting Z moves, how would Tera pokemon affect Megas etc. Would be very interesting imo
Would to see a similar video with gen one hyper beam
Before I learned about this sneaky mechanic, I always wondered how the hell a base 30 physical attack Voltorb kept one-shotting fully evolved Rock and Steel types with Explosion in Werster's Pokemon Stadium 2 speedruns.
Boom has the interesting effect of being about the only way to win a 4v4 doubles match in 1 turn. In gen iii, switches happen immediately. So if you explode and faint both opponents, then explode again and faint the second two opponents before the end of the first turn.
I feel like one idea you overlooked would be Galvanize Alolan Golem with Explosion. Halving defense, different pool of resists and different immunity, but also being SE vs Water and Flying, if A Golem had the full power Explosion had before it may have been a genuine menace.
I will always remember Stadium, the rental Haunter came in clutch with Explosion
So I don't know if it would of had a huge effect 9n its viability but I feel like full strength explosion one's glaylie would of been absurd with the glaciate ability not only turning it into oce stab but also boosting it by what I believe was the equivalent of a life 9rb that Gen.
Probably would of been way less relevant in general 7 after they needed those types of abilities
I'm using a tera normal boom metagross in scarlet/violet to break trick room setters
Would have been fun to see a choice band unnerfed explosion user paired with revival blessing.
Both BOOMs are so good both Stadium 1 and 2 speedruns use them a fair bit to speed up a lot of battles.
I used to think Gen 4 adding a, "But there was no target..." message after a Pokémon faints early was kind of pointless, but I didn't even consider (or at least forgot about) the surviving Pokémon still being able to use a move to heal or power itself up!
Blissey looking like Majin Buu in the thumbnail. 😂
I had a Showdown match on random doubles and one of my members consisted of a Foretress, I was at a disadvantage due to a Shiftry annoying my team, I tapped explosion and wiped both of the Opposing pokemon and cleaned up with my last Pokemon
Love the majin vegeta reference in the thumbnail
Honestly i loved explosion in gen 3 single player. I had my metagross and claydol with explosion (i got deep into gen 3) and yea it threw many playthroughs. I mean i fr did a lot of trading and breeding among emerald, ruby, fr and did a lot of cool stuff in game
Ok, design time.
A Regional Variant/Evolution or "Future" Form of one of the spikey bois Pyukumuku/Qwilfish/Pincurchin that is based on a Submarine Mine, it gets Explosion and maybe a Unique version as well (with less damage but has some utility like spreading Steel Spikes or is a Special Attack or has a Typing), with an Ability based on OG Explosion always halving the opponent's Def/SpDef with said moves.
Also I think you forgot to mention Galvanize Alolan Golem Explosions, which was one of the most extreme damaging moves till Gen 9 with Last Respects/Rage Fist (Hell it might still surpass them depending on Items/Tera), which can even be used More Than Once thanks to Revival Blessing now!
Love The vegita reference in The thumnail
Full powered explosion in gen 8, we could see some Ground/ghost appearing as niche counters to regieleki
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Is that a reference to Vegeta's final explosion against Majin Buu in the thumbnail?
Petition to game freak to when we use explosion the game say: WHATAFU BOOOOOOOOM
This comment came straight from 2008
Would have loved to see pre-nerf explosion from Mega Glalie and Alolan Golem
Wanna know a lil' interesting tidbit about Self-Destruct? In Legends Arceus, the move had 150 Power (120 if Agile Style or 200 if Strong Style) and would deal between 70-90% recoil damage (80% if used normally while the min/max percentages were for Agile/Strong Style respectively). If Self-Destruct, Explosion, and Misty Explosion had THAT property, that'd mean at full HP, you could go boom with the same Pokemon TWICE. Also, Misty Explosion is a special attack, so it'd have to halve special defense to get the double power. What do you guys think? Is 2 booms with one Pokemon too much? Maybe Legends ZA will give us Mega Electrode who turns all exploding moves into Electric-Type moves and removes their recoil damage or something lol.
One of my favourite (?) vgc games was when my opponent led Silvally and another pokemon I forget what. I had no idea what they were planning. Turns out it was helping hand normal gem explosion lead. It caught me totally off guard. Unexpected moves can be a huge edge in competitive pokemon......the problem is that when I said I had no idea what they were planning I decided to double protect turn 1 to get an idea what was happening...and now I was up 4-2. Fun game though