Why Priority is Close to Everything - The Scizor Theorem
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Priority is super good...maybe better than speed? #pokemon #pokemonscarletandviolet #pokemonshowdown
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0:00 - Intro
1:13 - RBY/Gen 1
1:43 - GSC/Gen 2
3:08 - ADV/Gen 3
6:33 - DPP/Gen 4
17:03 - BW/Gen 5
19:19 - XY/Gen 6
22:27 - SM/Gen 7
24:33 - SS/Gen 8
25:39 - Honorable Mentions
27:09 - SV/Gen 9
28:32 - Outro
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It's kinda awesome that Breloom was not only the first truly viable priority user, but it got Technician later on to allow its Mach Punch to be one of the greats.
I'm pretty sure extreme speed dragonite wants to have a word with you
@@philtess3126Dragonite didn't have Espeed in gen 3 and couldn't make much use of it in gen 2.
@@sweetschmeat7417 except he could. I know gen 2 meta is bulky rest talk, but the best priority on one of the biggest attack of its time is still nothing to scoff at and viable
@@philtess3126 I never said Dragonite was anything to scoff at but 20+ years of the GSC meta has NEVER seen Dragonite as a consistently viable OU threat.
Poliwrath should get Jet Punch. You see those fists?
Exactly
It shoud really get aqua jet and mach punch. Imagine with its belly drum.
@@williamlaurent2857 Azumarill is still stronger according to calcs
Scizor should get Double Iron Bash then
@@williamlaurent2857
Poliwrath @ Punching Glove
Ability: Water Absorb
Adamant Nature
IVs: 0 SpA
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Atk / 116 Sp Def
-Jet Punch
-Earthquake
-Mach Punch
-Belly Drum
(VS. OU Dragon Dance Gouging Fire)
+6 252+ Atk Punching Glove Poliwrath Jet Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gouging Fire: 322-379 (91.7 - 107.9%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
(VS. OU Nasty Plot Darkrai)
+6 252+ Atk Punching Glove Poliwrath Jet Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Darkrai: 415-490 (147.6 - 174.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
+6 252+ Atk Punching Glove Poliwrath Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Darkrai: 554-654 (197.1 - 232.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
a bit odd how the famous E-Killer arceus wasnt mentioned in this video
Cuz Ekiller is so disgustingly fat that it doesn't even need to always click espeed. This mon lives non life orb marshadow CC after rocks no chople berry with 240 HP. Z refresh ekiller with 2 normal moves was a real set, that while gimmicky, still existed provides you could remove lunala and marshadow.
That, and stupid (mainly early but still current) SV dragonite spamming tera normal extreme speed. Both known for the silly "+2 priority kill button"
@@je19493 Love that set so much, espeed is such a funny button.
I play casually I have no clue how healthy it was/is for the metagame
@@supremeclamitas5053It's fine. Mons like great tusk, zamazenta, steel birds all check it nicely but it's very good vs offensive teams.
Because in its debut generation, it didn't have the strongest priority and it wasn't officially released until near the end of the Generation. That went to Absol funnily enough. But it's utterly busted even with EVs on it limited.
I always thought Scizor was a fast Pokemon, it took me a long to realize it was just because it’s bullet punch was such a staple
To be fair, scizor looks like a fast pokemon - its design *looks* very... Speedy
@@alpurrsfr
@@alpurrs Also, in some places he is given the title of being someone who is fast, like in the anime he was called "the red lightning" or something like that in one episode.
Man technician bullet punch from Platinum was a game changer.
Sczior always hovered in BL because it was so popular just from design alone (and decent defensive stats) platinum with bullet punch took it to the next level.
I'd never run without one now
@@Matanumi all it needs is one swords dance and then you only have to worry about if you don't OHKO anything powerful enough to kill it back
Probably my favourite priority fact is that both Zacian and Sylveon would occasionally run Quick Attack in VGC.
Pixelate sylveon is dope
yea boost and stab@@jazzercise300
Fun fact: Priority moves are (Edit: some of) the only moves below 60 BP that aren’t affected by the hidden Terastalization buff to weaker attacks.
Multi-hit moves are also unaffected
@@MaahirMomtaz12 Huh. Interesting. Thanks for the heads up 🧐
the what
@@danielswann2132 If you're Terastallized, moves that are below 60 BP get their power increased to 60 if you're one of those types. So a Tera Ground Mud-Slap is 60 BP instead of 20.
Priority and multi-hit moves are the exceptions
Excuse me the hidden what
4:39 Obligatory Tyranitar mention in a 30+ minute FSG video is obligatory.
Gotta pay respects to the GOAT
Getting ready to that 2 hour long movie, "How GREAT was Tyranitar ACTUALLY".
@@jaas0225 Well, it’d be more like “How GREAT were Tyranitar and Iron Thorns ACTUALLY?” Or maybe some other more fitting adjective.
Can't go through a chronology of competitive singles without mentioning a mon that has warped half of all extant OU formats unlike almost any other.
BKC wrote the script, what did you expect? xD
Why priority is everything?
To counter FEAR
Fear wouldnt be possible without priority lol
@@Rv8xshell bell and sturdy endeavor would like to differ...
@bg8561 their point was that FEAR wouldn't be possible without priority, you forgot the last move, Quick Attack. Ratatta was the original FEAR mon.
@@Wesker1984true but Aron or how it's spelt doesn't need it
FEAR literally only works because of priority.
There are fans out there still forgetting that Dark types are immune to Prankster. And this was since Gen 7.
*Updated* I apologize for saying "people" like that. Truly am.
Me, “people” is me
Thundurus is why Prankster, Swagger, Thunder Wave and paralysis/confusion itself got nerfed lol
Bites my ass at least once every gen
@@MaahirMomtaz12 klefki did the same stuff.
It’s really only relevant in VGC. It does sometimes show up in smogon but prankster isn’t as effective in singles
The Pelipper Theorem: why Weather is ALMOST Everything
More like Groudon/Kyogre theorem
Eh, that's arguably been covered in the ability video
I’m pretty sure this has already been done, no?
Been covered in field conditions video bro
Field conditions video already did that
At this point, Swords Dance + Bullet Punch is most of my DNA and my ability isn't even technician.
My favorite thing about priority is that with the addition of Upper Hand as a anti-priority priority move we have the ability to play a Rock-Paper-Scissor style game using Upper Hand, Mach Punch, and Focus Punch
as I always say: "You don't need speed when you have PRIORITY!!"
Talonflame's Gen 6 Motto
@@enoyna1001and talonflame also has speed
hitmontop be like
But the question is: How great was Relicanth actually?
Rock Head, Head Smash. I love it.
It was great in littlecup Gen 3 and 4 if I remember right. I believe it even got banned in Gen 4 Littlecup with the Headsmash and No recoil ability combo
@@TheRealAquaz Gets banned for it's outsmarting tactics. Cheaters!
Impossible to NOT love Granda Feesh
@@TheRealAquaz..? Relicanth is a one-stage pokemon.
There were actually 7 damaging priority moves introduced in gen 4, not 6!
-Aqua jet
-Bullet Punch
-Feint
-Ice Shard
-Sucker Punch
-Shadow Sneak
-Vacuum Wave
I tried naming all 6 when you said it earlier in the video and remembered feint but forgot bullet punch but then you said bullet punch and I realized it was 7 of them lmao
Damn gen 4 really made Pokemon what it is today. I can't even imagine Pokemon without moves like sucker punch and ice shard.
Feint is nearly worthless in Singles, which is probably why they forgot it
@@kulla8587 fr it’s barely a real move in doubles
@@lorenzo2780stealth rock also
Tsareena, Farigiraf, and Bruxish were expectating to be mentioned as priority blockers.
Yeah abilities like queenly majesty
Only Bruxish hasn’t been relevant in VGC.
Could Tsareena be viable again in Gen 9 VGC? Maybe with a T-Fighting type?
I remember the pre-platinum smogon analysis for Scizor described a gimmicky swords dance + technician + quick attack set saying how if it had bullet punch instead it'd probably go up a tier. And boy did that happen.
the porygon2 theorem: why being fully evolved isn't everything
Dusclops or Rhydon Theorem works too.
Thats basically just abilites, stats, and items which were all seperately covered
I’m sad that Lokix didn’t get a mention for managing the impossible and sticking in UU as a route 1 bug shitmon off the back of its tremendously powerful tinted lens stab first impressions and sucker punches
and Tinted Lens STAB U-Turns and Knock Offs too
He would be a God if valiant didn't exist.
I’ve got an ability idea: Accelerator. It boosts the priority of moves with 60 base power or less by one stage. Pokémon that can get the ability include Vikavolt, Octillery, and Magmortar.
Yes, boost Octillery!
Give it to Pachirisu and we can get priority Nuzzle
Sounds balanced on those Pokémon, at least in Singles. I don't know about the impact of priority Electro Web/Icy Wind/Bulldoze (aka speed control) in Doubles (VGC).
PU IS NOT SAFE
Accelerator boosted Bulldoze lowering the opponent's speed to either let a teammate revenge kill them or have the Accelerator mon kill them itself the next turn... 👀
It's kinda funny that this was the one time FSG didn't mention the potent conditionally-fastest priority move in the game: Pursuit. It may've been removed and covered extensively by now, but it's still the grandpappy of heavily influential priority, given it was the only move that could specifically outspeed a switch.
I think what happened here is that they didn’t cover this since the extra priority is only added when a switch happens. The game probably had some kind of flag set to check for a switch when the target is being attacked by Pursuit, and naturally, the flag activates upon this and doubles the move’s BP from 40 to 80.
@@bdt2002gaming Is flag like a programming term or something?
@@skeetermania3202 Flag is a programming term. It's usually a term for when a check is ran to determine a certain effect. In context, one flag is flown when a player chooses their move/action for the turn and, in multiplayer, the turn starts when that flag is tripped by both players, from there the turn plays out given those inputs, such as Pursuit doubling in power if one side uses it while the other switches, or Feint removing the Protect flag that would otherwise prevent all damage.
@@bdt2002gaming while the extra priority is indeed added only while "is_target_switching"==true (making an assumption as to flag names), Pursuit still had +1 priority by default, making it a priority move and objectively the best one with a type matchup at the time.
@@rayhatesu Bruh I’m not even mad that I just got nerded on. If anything I’m impressed 😁
Honerable mention of Extreme-killer Arceus and all the Tera pokemon wanting to be cool like them. Every pokemon with the move in gen 9 has some viability biased on that set
So surprised Arceus wasn’t mentioned!
The meta: 54% Flutter Mane usage.
Me: *clicking bullet punch on my Scizor*
It’s honestly sad that without a boosting item/Sword of Ruin, Flutter Mane just tanks it… I learned that the hard way.
@@mewtationssbdocile, 0 attack scizor does 105% min to 0/0 fluttermane. Stop lying lol
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 0/0 Flutter… that’s a huge deal. That doesn’t really exist anymore.
@@fulltimeslackerii8229almost all speed boosting flutters run some bulk on the defensive side just to deal with that scenario. Special, idk I haven't seen one in a hot minute
@mewtationssb neither does 0 attack Scizor
No need for speed if priority succeeds
Unless your opponent is also using priority.
Poor Talonflame
Gale Wings gutted and left to rot
I wonder how Gen 9 should look if Gale Wings retained the same mechanics. On one hand, the fact that Heavy Duty Boots exist now would almost force Talonflame to run them to avoid Rocks. But on the other hand, Choice Band is basically needed to pose any immediate threat with Talonflame's Attack. I guess you could use it as solely a revenge killer for significantly weakened Pokemon with Boots, or you could try to set up with Swords Dance. Great Tusk would be its best friend, and Gholdengo wouldn't want to switch into Defog for fear of getting cooked by Flare Blitz.
gale wings still isnt terrible, and atleast talonflame has good speed
@@reddragonair3147Gale Wings is still preferred in VGC.
We all gotta agree that the videos thumbnail is so badass
The Cacturne Theorum: Why Evasion is POSSIBLY Everything
Really want a deep look into Smogon's clauses given degenerate battle conditions, and Gen 3 Cacturne is a perfect example of this tomfoolery
Hot take: With almost every mechanic around them having been nerfed by now, and the game itself going in a direction increasingly unfriendly to the offending weathers anyway, evasion boosting abilities need their ban reexamined
And really, I would say most old clauses should be reexamined at some point, as well as anything that has been frequently called for but not actually reasonably examined (*cough cough* Entry Hazards but especially Stealth Rock)
Nah man Smogon right now is too busy banning sleep moves without even asking the community
@@maxmucci3170 Yeah, uh, I don't think Smogon knows what they're doing anymore, and they haven't for a while. Best to completely overhaul the system, ideally with an entirely new council that hasn't been tainted by Smogon's current philosophy
@baxterbruce9827 they're not necessarily banned for being strong, they're banned for being uncompetitive
Another thing is that Priority blocking is one of the most solidly powerful support niches in VGC in recent generations.
Psychic Surge Indeedee and Tapu Lele, Queenly Majesty Tsareena, and now Armor Tail Farigiraf? Heck, Bruxish even has Dazzling, but Bruxish has the problem of its stats just really being *that bad*
Armor Tail on Farigiraf is one of, if not THE biggest factor of why it currently has so much competitive usage
Why Natures are Everything-The Chansey/ Blissey Theorem
Dracovish Thorem: why base power of moves is everything
Tinkaton.
@@skeetermania3202nah, dracovish. It actually got banned because of fisheous rend’s effective base power.
@@ManyTanks1I think his point is that Tinkaton has an absurdly powerful signature move (base 160 power) but it’s definitely not what makes it good in the lower tiers
@@kulla8587what makes it good then
@@mrtrollnator123 It usually likes to play support, encore, stealth rock, knock off, fake out, that stuff. It does still use Gigaton Hammer since it IS a powerful move, but its attack is so low it doesn't really run any other attacks for the purposes of KOing things.
In RBY ZU, Pidgeot will sometimes use Quick Attack to overcome Arbok.
26:18 Custap berry doesn’t give you priority, it only makes you move first in your priority bracket, so a +1 priority move will always outspeed a Custap berry 0 priority move
I know it's a weird one, but you didn't mention Pursuit. It's only when they switch out, but it's the only move that comes before a trainer action, and it even works on most moves that switch the user out
Hitmontop using 4 priority moves is honestly hilarious
I was surprised to not see prankster tailwind set up in this video
False Swipe focuses more on singles so it makes sense, you could make a whole 'nother video on priority in Doubles. As for the combo, prankster is much more impactful in doubles than in singles, and tailwind is almost exclusively used in doubles, similar to the likes of trick room.
AYYY MY BOY GOT HIS OWN THEOREM!!
The next “almost everything” video could be “why format is almost everything: the Incineroar theorum”. Incineroar is absolutely awful in singles, but is one of the very best Pokémon in VGC. On top of this, it just got helping hand in scarlet and violet, letting it be even more supportive.
two days of consecutive FSG uploads??
Dude been watching you for probably 7 years and your videos are always so enjoyable. I’m a big poke nerd and I always learn something new. Thanks for being awesome!
While it is only in honourable mentions, Quick Draw/Claw's effect is technically not increased priority. It makes the wielder go first within the move's priority bracket. It is like temporarily treating the base speed as 999.
Run run run as fast as you can!
You can't outrun me
I'm the priority mon!
Priority, or as I like to call it "Bullet punch, sucker punch, and their homies"
Today's my friend David's birthday, and Scizor is one of his favorite Pokemon. So quite a coincidence this was released for his 30th birthday.
I bet he'll like this a lot, since he also loves priority.
The Ursaluna Theorem - Why Trick Room is… close to nothing
Obstagoon needs Extreme Speed. Obstruct+Guts+Tera Normal
Extreme Speed would be pretty good on Obstagoon. Unfortunately, Zigzagoon isn't in Pokemon SV. And it's unclear if Terastalization is going to stay going forward. Probably not though.
Back to back videos is a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
Why Intimidate is such a great ability? - THE MIGHTYENA THEOREM!
Tbh probably should be the incineroar theorem
That's already in abilities (Regigigas Theorem)
Wow. 2 videos in 2 days. And they were both amazing. I do have to tell you how much I absolutely love these theorem videos.
I can't wait for the Terapogos Theorem: Why Generational Gimmicks are Sometimes Everything
No, that would either be the Mawile, Lopunny or Beedrill Theorem, those three mons got HUGE boosts thanks to Mega Evolution.
“Gen 2 is an incredibly bulky generation” - you’ve done it now.
These videos are always a high quality and I really love that.
These new videos are great!
I really enjoy exploring greater concepts as opposed to one Pokémon's impact
It's also both relaxing and funny to listen to you sound like you're talking with half a spoon of potato salad in your mouth
Dear False Swipe Gaming! I love your videos!!!! Please keep going!
Why hazards are close to everything - The Ferrothorn theorem
He's already done vids for it, Stealth Rock and Spikes each have their own.
@@cheyanne2001 tthen just do webs
These theorem videos are such fun watches, keep it up
He forgot Feint
Jynx getting her eyeballs blown off by Dragonite extremespeed had me dying 😂
@2:10
The Rotom/Arceus Theorem
Why Forms are almost everything.
Give my regards to the artist who creates these thumbnails they are phenomenal!!
When I found out about Upper Hand this generation, it immediately became one of my favorite moves
13:10 “Cornucopia of carnage” is my new favorite phrase.
2 FSG Videos back to back?! We eating good this weekend and it's non other than a Theorem Video!
I just want some Seismitoad
The Scizor theorem is the most obvious name out of all the theorems for the priority video (besides Gale Wings Talonflame) cuz of Technician Bullet Punch. Imagine an item version of Technician.
This is the type of content I like to see.
You forgot to mention that Grassy Glide was nerfed in Gen 9, being reduced from 70 to 60 and then again reduced to 55 in an update.
Damn, that's messed up.
This is the theorem I've been waiting for.
Mostly unrelated except for swords dance lige orb shadow sneak sets but i just got a really comfy Mimikyu plush😊
Thank you for this video
Also not mentioned is how negative priority also is a factor keeping some moves in check.
I’d really like to see a video like this about all the different phazing moves. could be really interesting
I'm surprised there was no mention of Upper Hand in Gen 9, a move that specifically is designed to counter other priority moves. Otherwise, absolutely great video!
I feel like a lot of players go through what I call "the fake out epiphany". Back when you play casually or just do the story, fake out is just an annoying move used by computers to delay the inevitable. Once you start caring about competitive Pokemon though, you have that moment where you realize how insanely good fake out is. Being able to deny an opponent their turn and get free damage for it is truly insane in such high stakes battles.
Banded Scizor and SD Breloom were staples for me back in the day, absolutely favourites and powerhouses to sweep. However, a dark horse favourite of mine was also Protean Kecleon with Fake Out/Sucker Punch/Shadow Sneak.
Two FSG videos in one week? It must be Christmas
For a second i heard "with chad quick attack" instead of "with had quick attack" lol
About xtreme speed in gen2: in my friend group, back in the day, the number 2 terror in our stadium 2 tournaments was my curse xspeed dragonite
2 videos 1 week, FSG on a roll
I love bulky scizor with bullet punch, slow u-turn and priority
Upper Hand is also a thing with the Indigo Disk, but I haven't heard of any competitive use for it yet. It actually solely exists to priority-creep opposing priority, and fails if the opponent isn't using a priority move. So it would fit the video in that it perfectly epitomizes the priority war.
Hey! im a longer fan from your videos and specially from the theorem serie! :D im pretty sure for the next theorem video the video title would be "Why Abilitys is Close to Everything - The Crawdaunt Theorem" ^^
That means you're a newer fan. A lot of people here have been here since before thise
So lately i've been having fun with technician scizor choice banded into bullet punch and tera steel combined with a politoed setting up rain against fire moves and using helping hand on scizor against the blueberry league when im farming money or XP. Pretty devious combo.
showtouts to Altarianite and Pinsirite stab espeed for shaping the Mix and Mega landscape since gen 6
Aqua jet Empoleon and Ariados shadow sneak animation goes hard af
When ORAS Triples was still a thing on Smogon, one of my favorite teams to use was a Prankster+Assist+Round team, consisting of Liepard and Meowstic (the only two pokemon with Prankster+Assist), and Porygon-Z, Mega Salamence, Sylveon, and Aurorus (they have -ate and adaptability to boost Round).
Despite having effectively 0 coverage due to Assist's move restrictions, this was still winning more games for me than losing, because spamming a base 120 power special priority move coming off of some of the strongest special attackers around is enough to overpower a lot of teams. Sadly, it's actually bugged in-game due to Round chaining inconsistencies, but its still a lot of fun.
My first smogon team had a scizor and talonflame as the physical attackers :p
Kingambit being able to 'cleave' through everything in its path. I see what you did there False Swipe.
I used scizor to murder every version of fluttermane. Most of the time ohko with tech bullet punch. It still put in work against many teams without boost.
I’ve been asking for this video for quite some time. Perhaps the next could be why move sets (like mix attacking, fast physical, bulky special, etc) are close to everything or the Dragonite therom
whats a drigonite?
@@bomooseI meant to spell Dragonite
A priority defense boost would be so cool now that I’m thinking of it
Can't wait to look back on this video in gen 13 when TPC releases Mega-Urshifu with a signature 150bp +7 priority move
Gen 1 also introduced protect and gen 2 did the same with detect. You could also count pursuit as a priority move.
Mega medicham's *pure power* around 21:15
I thought he meant sheer force at first thinking, "bullet isn't boosted by that" but then figured it out
Early to a False Swipe Gaming Theorem?!?!?
Dragonite was such a brutal revenge killer in gen 4 with extremespeed
You didn't mention the abilities Dazzling and Queenly Majesty, which block priority moves entirely
Christmas came twice this week!
Scizor has been my favorite pokemon since Gen 2, so when it got bullet punch in Gen 4, needless to say, I have also had a Scizor on my team.
Y’all should do histories of tiers. Like a “History of Gen 4 UU” video that explores how the tier has evolved over time.