This Tiny 4.8L 16-Core RTX Gaming PC Pushes The Edge Of SFF Power!
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In this video we build a powerful small form factor mini gaming PC powered by a 16 Core 32 Thread Ryzen CPU and backed by a Low Profile RTX 4060! A 4.8L mini PC that runs AAA PC games at 1440P! We use the Misinsforum BD790i all In One Mini ITX motherboard that houses an AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX Zen 4 CPU!
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00:00 Introduction
00:54 Video Sponsor Ad Spot
02:02 Building A Powerful SFF Mini PC
05:57 Finishing the Build
06:44 Overall Performance
08:49 Benchmarks
09:40 Palworld
10:05 Helldivers 2
10:23 Red Dead Redemption 2
10:54 Borderlands 2
11:14 COD MW3
11:36 Cyberpunk 2077 
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Man this channel has become my favorite SFF channel lately. Amazing build ETA!
Finally!!! the 4060 showing up! love it!
I wish they made a 4060 ti low profile, that would put a small build over the top.
bro, it's already over the top if you compared it to what we had 3 years ago, perfomance are great, be satisfied with what you have or it will never be enough,
They did just search it up there is 4060 lowprofikle
May not be a true low profile card but MSI made a 4060Ti/4070 Ti X Slim version which is more smaller than the typical/regular 4060 Ti/4070Ti's out there. I actually made a small Lian Li Q58 build with the MSI 4060Ti(16GB) White X Slim, i7-13700k, 32GB RAM and 1 1TB m.2(OS) and a 6TB 2.5 WD SSD(for the games + misc).
Forgot to add that I game at 1080p@144fps at high settings in all games and am completely happy with my little powerhouse lunchbox lol
galax made a single slot 4060 ti 16 gb, maybe its what you are looking for!
@forsakenturin 4060 ti. Not standard 4060. He used a standard 4060 LP in the video. They do not make a 4060 ti in Low Profile format.
Dang I need one of them. Awesome build
Awesome 16-core workstation! We could only dream of this computing power growing up with old clunky desktops. I can see these compact systems taking over as 'do all' daily drivers. Especially 6 and 8 core CPU's. Use good cooling and they'll boost speeds all day. Good hands on review 👍
Awesome build
Excellent Build!
this mini pc is amazing!!!!
I’ll definitely need to try this for my travels💯💯
This is definitely the type of build I'd go for today-because it is legitimately tiny....but have no need to upgrade yet. My last pc build from a few years ago was a sff, but still huge and heavy though smaller than a mid-tower. They need to keep shrinking gpu's and power supplies so we can have super small pc's. Because I'm a renter, we have to move around every few years, so lugging these boxes around is a pain in the azz and I don't trust movers not to damage these delicate and costly machines-so I move them myself. Something this small would be ideal because you can throw it and all your cables and stuff in a backpack.
I wish they would release a 4070lp. Nice to see more options with FlexATX coming out, the PSU was typically the limiting factor in ITX builds, even SFX is limiting if you want to go with half-height cards.
Still wish these case manufacturers would stop cheating around the expansion card brackets. Just extend the case rearward and make them internal. Who cares about the .2L penalty? If the bracket is sticking out it's effectively that much bigger already.
Hopefully we'll get a 5070 lp, given the new SFF endeavour from nvidia, but 200w LP is doable with a good undervolted chip
@@Spyke_misc Yeah that's the kind of power envelope I was thinking of. Single 8-pin mounted on the end close to the motherboard (same orientation as current 4060lp, just shimmied over so the cable is even more out of the way). I'd want such a PCB not just for LP cards, but also regular ones for more efficient cooling.
i think a 5060 lp would be able to do 4k gaming due to the double chip in 1 format they're going for 5000 series. a 5070 will stil require too much psu power
I've got one of these on the way can't wait. Gonna build a bigger case with a more powerful gpu than this tho as I think this mobo deserves to be 1440p or 4k.
cute setup
ETA - 8:10 you have a f**ed up Cinebench Test part of the review ))
i did that on a cheap under 4L case with minimal modifications
Great vid 👍
a mini PC setup 🥵
Ohhhhh gonna have to watch this one 🤯
Now they just need to get the BD770i back in stock.
The thing about these mini pcs are to reduce footprint, being a usable PC and not too expensive by using low profile GPUs. They really shine in these years.
I love single slots. Especially the cheapest ones. You get the most out of them. A real BANG for your buck. Always happy and satisfied.
There was no single slot card in this video
@@CarsonTheCanuck Never said there was. Can a man enjoy his single slot cards that has nothing to do with his video to begin with and just comment what's on his mind? Man, If only I could change the world, one single slot at a time.
I will be subscribing
Still waiting for ETA to build in the FormD T1 case
Excellent Build!
If you put this set up in a full tower case, and used PCI NVMe adapters, I wonder how many SSD’s you could cram into it for mass storage (not including a NAS)
My dream pc
I really wish they put vent holes on the bottom of the front (button-side) panel with the same looking holes. It would be underneath the psu mounting.
very interessting type of product
Wish i could afford something like this.
I've started getting the itch to update my rig but it's a custom watercooled 9900k+2080 Super with 2x360mm radiators and it still works really well. And it's SO QUIET! I want to go small but I prioritize silence. And I've got a 3440x1440 ultrawide so way more pixels to push. Maybe another couple of GPU generations will get me a graphical upgrade while also downsizing.
Great video and quite detailed. I might hop on the mini ITX and sff builds train 😅....but before I do, can you tell me please what model is the Monitor? Thx
When the Ryzen 9000's come out I will be replacing my ITX 5600x setup with a Miniforums combo like this
The definition of no space wasted
im interested to build PC like this
This is awesome!! Can it run on Type 1 hypervisor?..🤔
Definitely needs some case feet (if the case doesn't come with any). You can grab a set of 4 "bumper pads" for a few bucks at most hardware stores and stick them to the bottom
Awesome build! Would this also run iRacing and F1 24? 🏁
I did not know about minisforum motherboards
Nice PC. If this mobo support Debian or ArchLinux I will go for it.
I have this same build with the rtx 4000 ada gpu it's a monster
*The Asrock Deskmini+Ryzen 5700G:* Is still my preferred super-compact, yet powerful, mini Pc solution.
I have two identical ones built. One is my everyday use Pc, and the other is a dedicated Emulation/gaming comp.
I saw they finally have the Deskmeet x600 in stock at NewEgg, not sure about DeskMini. But figure you could put in a 4060ti 16GB in the Deskmeet.
@@anthonyhall6676 I've always preferred a more simplified set-up, no videocard, just integrated graphics whilst still being powerful in it's own right. Thanks to modern Ryzen processors, that's now a reality. And the end result is like a tiny brick--- Very compact.
Just did a mini ITX build, lol i wish id known about that minisforum mobo. In hindsight, buying it would have been worth the trouble i went through with the gigabyte b650i ultra and the fractal ridge. It was difficult to find a cooler that would fit around gigabyte’s enormous heat sink but still be short enough for my case.
Minis Forum has got to be the most innovative mfg right now. They are always innovating
MinisForum AtomMan X7 Ti touchscreen mini PC comes packing an Intel Core Ultra 9 185H. ETA PRIME could you review this one. Keep up the good work.
Vary nice !
nice if I was going to use this I would probably put it on some feat so those gpu fans can get good pull from the bottom. 4 little bolts with rubber caps could probably just lock into to the corner vent holes. Also its just speculation but if you then reversed the cpu fan so it blows out and give it a noctua shroud so it exhausts straight out the case it would mean more airflow into the gpu as well. It seemed to perform well enough without it but I can't help but feel you were starving that thing if you benchmarked it in the same position it was shown.
ETA Prime somewhere in the future : "I build this SFF PC using Minisforum T-1000 motherboard with mimetic poly-alloy cooling."
Cooler partially covers the smaller cooler. No wonder it is loud.
32960 cbR23 score is no joke. My 5950x does 30,500
"The cooler that Minisforum opted to use on this board" is the cooler they designed and built for it. :)
I really do wish this case were easier to get. I hate having to use Ali Express to buy any of these super small ITX cases.
Can you post the dimensions of that motherboard with that noctua fan installed? I am really liking these.
The NVME slots are gen5.
Its the most power efficient desktop you could build at the moment. The card supports only pcie 4.0 x8 while the motherboard supports pcie 5.0 x16.
Amazing
🤔 put this in a backpack with a portable power station. Get a portable monitor and controller and put it all together, and now you have the Most powerful handheld. 😅
That was my idea too💯💯🔥🔥
Just buy a gaming phone for travel
Minisforum have a AMD Ryzen power windows tablet out. I'm buying one at the end of the month. Hope the internal drive is easy to upgrade.
@chaosfury2016 you can not replace the ssd
That is not a handheld though, like it has to hold the whole thing on the hands to be a handheld, the name saids it all....
Hey ETA Prime, can you do a GEEK M21 MINI-ITX CASE build.
@3:06 you mention the RAM runs at 5600 MHz, as far as i know, the board is maxed out at 5200 MHz. My Kingston Fury Impact XMP 6000 runs at 4800. How do you Setup your RAM? Because the BIOS did not allow any changes
can you try high end emulation on this cpu ( specifically rpcs3 with hard to run games like GoW 3 and ascension )
that mobo cpu combo cost just as much as my mid range pc lol
When will minisforum release a version of this with the 3D chip is what I’m wondering.
Noticed the temps were around the 80+ mark. Seems to be OK. But interesting.
Quite big. My SFF PC has 5,5L in volume, but it can fit a desktop 7950X3D (with power limit) and a full size (smallest on the market) 4070.
PSU is a simple non-modular 600W FLEX-ATX with shortend cables and small noctua fan for quieter operation (does limit power to ~400W to prevent overheating).
Case?
@@mitlanderson Densium 4+ V1, not available anymore. The V2 is available at Overtek.
I don't think they use liquid metal for the CPU. I've seen people disassemble it on the Minisforum discord and there was a plaster-like thermal "paste" used that was hard and brittle. I haven't checked my BD790i yet, though.
Hopefully,people I'll look at this video and build one for themselves.
Did the right angle adapter you order work and do you have a link? Doing a similar build with the AR900i, ordered it a couple weeks ago :)
I was interested in same. ❤
He didn't need it when he did the Ryzen 7 build because he used a slimmer fan so maybe go look at that build and the A900 build was in a whole different case.
@@heirtothethrone000 Turns out to be more complicated than that. I got two LZMOD A24-V5 cases and they had a slightly different power connector that works fine with the Noctua NF-F12 iPPC 3000 PWM. Meanwhile low profile fans (got two models) require you to offset the fan and even then don't quite work well. I will post something on Reddit over next week or two. And also happy to share my email if anyone wants to chat directly.
@@AlexanderWaitZaranek Well I know he did offset the slim fan on the BD770i and got good temps from the video of the build he did. Personally I may get the case but go with a mobo and the 12C 7900x to avoid the whole issue and still give myself an upgrade path even if it cost me a little bit more money.
@@heirtothethrone000 I've never built a machine so building two was fun for me. BD790i seems great so far. I need to confirm I have good temps and my Gen5 SSDs (2x2TB 14.5GB/s!) actually work as expected. My build is a very unusual quad OCuLink setup in place of graphics card. So a bit unusual.
I dream of owning the same specs as this PC you build but with just a 7800x3d/8700G! Someday I probably will when funds arrive on my bank account... Your videos keeps me dreaming thank you!
I feel like you could convince Nvidia to do a 4070 LP
Not sure if you have a 3D printer or not but I was wondering if you could use some 3D printed cases out. Printables has a few and some other sites with 3D models. When I go to look at your builds the cases you use are either a lot of $$$ or are sold out. If you used a printable case this wouldn't be a problem.
Would you recommend doing this over the 8700g build you did?
I didn't know that BD790i has liquid metal under the cooler. Is it the same for BD770i that I already purchased?
6:15, I understand the allure of having it stand upright, but choking the GPU of any fresh air doesn't seem like a good longterm idea, so to keep it temp friendly I'd personally just put it flat in this scenario, at least there's mesh on the side (actually top) panel, so it can still get fresh air in from there.
I'd definitely consider this if building something ITX, sure you sacrifice some future upgrade paths by having an onboard CPU, size limit due the case and power capacity due to PSU size, but these are acceptable compromises when trying to build so small and compact.
I also find it very enjoyable to build such small machines and trying to make sure they're still good performance per dollar but also not too loud / hot, I only got into it recently though, I always just went with midi towers, but then I wanted less space to be taken, and felt like ATX cases just waste so much space, plus ITX coolers and AIOs make it much more feasible these days to make a good rig, same with the existence of decent slim fans.
I have a question about the AIO board there. Is itt possible to repaste it in the future?
Do you make budget itx builds?
if u go with a bd770 version and add a less power gpu, u could get away with a cheaper budget but it's stil not that cheap. cheap and powerful requires used parts. Or u can just wait til they have this on super clearance in a few years
This with a 7945x3d would be killer. I wonder if they make this all in one mobo eith that chip. It’s crazy to me how more gaming laptops don’t use that 7945x3d because it kills the 14900hx in almost every game.
Man I wish their other CPU was still in stock. This 16 core build is a productivity beast, but I would prefer to save some money and get a better match with the 4060 like the 77XXh 8-core CPU they sold out of.
i managed to put it into a 3.7L case
Can you show performance on 4k with DLSS? Curious on how the performance is, even if its not 60fps
The case is not 80 bucks for men, morel ike 120, but i do like this one a lot, only issue is future availability of low profile gpu
So what about intense renders in After effects.?
How loud is that flex ATX power supply on idle and under load?
I thought this was a vid on chevy truck engines. 😅
Normally I know the PC gaming community is very anti-frame generation, but this is a perfect example of how the right use case can make the feature shine. This is a teeny tiny gaming PC that was just able to run a new AAA title at 1440p ~90fps. That's actually incredible and though they can be very anti-consumer with their pricing, Nvidia definitely deserves some praise for that one.
I am anti-frame generation and upscaling because it's a crutch that will make developers optimize their games less and less to the point the only way to play any game is using upscaling and frame generation.
3:22 is that a bent front IO header pin?
Nice build. But the link to the motherboard isn't working
the BD790i seems to suffer from the problem that the BIOS doesn't save the setting after being disconnected from power. Does your unit have the same issue?
Is the airflow to the gpu blocked laying it vertically?
Is this better than buying an itx, noctua low profile cooler, 2 regular ram sticks and the same processor?
I think the fan was over kill
Did you had issues with the noice from the psu fan? I made a similar build with a similar psu before, and the fan was super loud. Even much louder compared to a gaming laptop
If you try another build like this, use a HDPLEX GaN psu. The 250w is completely passively cooled but the 500w is nearly completely silent as well.
@@NicholasGogel Yes I just updated my comment jaja, mine was 600w which was kinda overkill and couldn't replace the fan
I wonder how good that 4060 low profile is on 4k with games using full DLSS, probably will look so good and cannot tell compare to a high power one, if the game supports it
it's gonna struggle... not a good match
Considering how expensive Mini-ITX stuff is, I'd put a RTX 4000 Ada SFF instead of that 4060 LP.
Me: oh, thats a big PSU Case.
Wait, thats not a PSU Case
How good would it work in a Velka 3 or 5?
2 4K monitors 144 Hz will work? ( not game )
Which RTX 4070 would you recommend for this mini pc?
With the next AMD APU you can ditch the 4060 and go for an even smaller case!
Just get a Phanteks T30 fan. Quiet and powerful
This case is actually 5.045 liters and not 4.8L, they've likely advertised the interior dimensions in an attempt to make it look better than it is. Being 5L puts it firmly in the class of the Velka 5, a case that can fit a 4070 Ti Super and however much CPU you're comfortable running at 95C. If you don't care about graphics as much the Velka 3 is under 4 liters (legitimately) and it still manages to fit a full height dual slot ITX card so it'll do a 4060 Ti where this case only does a 4060.
Can you do a amd 6600 with SteamOS?
Why did you go with an APU instead of a CPU if you are using a dedicated GPU anyways?