The Silverton: "1949"
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2010
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Chasing and Riding the Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge Railroads' 21st Annual Fall Photographer's Special. In 2010, the railroad painted some coaches Pullman Green, and relettered the equipment for the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad as it would have been in 1949. Little touches to bring out the era were included, such as people in 1949 period clothing (myself included: I'm in the red & black flannel in the Silverton scenes), automobiles, water-bags on the cab, and the Original Rocky Mountain Railroad Club Drumhead on the rear of the train. An interesting note, even the whistle on the 473 was used on sister engine 478 during the recreated period.
And yes, I'm "The Lumberjack" in the Silverton Station scenes.
Really wonderful, excellent editing! I especially lofe the beginning scenes in Durango!
Hi Mike Armstrong
This was awesome footage. Used to live in Silverton and always go lookin for footage of the trains.
Excellent video!! I was a fireman for the D&SNGRR in the summer months from 2003 to 2005. It is always a treat to see the same locomotives operating back in the day. Good job and please post more videos.
I love the sound
Wow, a thousand times.
Your movie is a masterpiece.Congratulations.
LOVE YOUR STUFF!! Makes me want to go to CO. thanks for posting it!!!
Excellent. Thanks
Grandiose! Magnificent! Spectacular! Thank you!
Grandiose! Magnifique! Spectaculaire! Merci!
awesome video! that mellow 3 chime really sounds great in the mountains. thanks!
Very beautiful shooting. Magnificent video work. Thank you very much.
fabulous video, love that locomotive. She's a beauty.
nice whistle
Excellent video, liked the little touches period auto etc.
Very nice video. The beginning sends chills down my spine. Takes me back to that town as well. If there was ever a whistle that defines the "lonesome whistle blowing", then 473 wears it. Always wondered why 473 had a different whistle than the rest of the fleet. Anyone know?
theres some steep grades for that train to make.... great video...
wow stunning engine-whistle
Very very nice. Good job!
William D, That was a great video. Thanks for sharing.
JP
I would love hearing that sound everyday
great video and you did a fantastic job chasing it down. i truly enjoyed it after a hard work week having a beer on a Saturday night, cheers...
Very well done. Thank you for posting this.
Really a Great video. I've been on the DNR many of times but never took video's. Thank you
Some great scenes, especially with the period car.
Awesome video ! 👍
473 has pulled that train, as BumbleBee and in Black, 473 is the engine used.
Dreamlike. Thank you. 5*
Well done!
Very nice video, we were on the train and you caught us.
D&RGW Narrow Gauge Locomotive #473 was preserved with her sister 476 and 478.
sweet!!
nice video
K-28 are my favorite engine on the the on the D&S and the best on the rio grande.
I like all whistles but the guys at Cass have always been the best as far as I am concerned.
The route to feel complete, needs the telegraph lines rebuilt near the stations, even less the wires.
Originally, they'd have a single 5 foot arm with 6 insulators, Hemingray no 40 and older. HGCo beehives, and patent dec 19 1871 pieces came off the lines, per senior Insulator collectors.
Hemingray no.9s in aqua, though just Bell telephone standards that came decades later... Would closely reproduce the look of original Brookfield made "blobtop" styles used on the oldest circuits very faithfully. These types date to a standard set fourth by once giant Western Union Telegraph around 1865 or so.
That's said, A&K RR in Salt Lake City deals with recovered RR materials, including pole linework, so they'd be my first goto for insulators and authentic pole line hardware.
I think the passenger cars look much better and far more authentic in Pullman Green than the very " Toy-like " yellow they now use.
True, the original passenger car colors of the D&RG were actually red. Green was the main color until the ‘50s when yellow became the new theme for the Rio Grande. Their F7s and new passenger fleet had the colors and they wanted to replicate the style on their narrow gauge to promote their company. Some locomotives were given a yellow paint job as well for a time. In a way, the yellow is still authentic.
Fun fact, K-28 Engine 473 has been successfully converted to burn Oil.
On the rare opportunities that I get to photograph these kind of specials, I try to arrange my shots to avoid modern elements (signs, automobiles, buildings, people in modern clothing). The run-bys after 6:00 is a good example. Sure it's staged, but even Winston Link did that.
Beautiful country at 8:00.
@Chatzi473 thanks!
4:41 just became my computer desktop...
@David245611 He actually sounded like the late Red McMillion who ran the first Shay 3.
Wow. Someone noticed.
473 actually
When I saw the vintage cars I thought it was 1949
I'd really like to know where that spot is at 3:25, it looks like Hermosa, if it is then I know where that is.
does the drurango & silverton have any prr 3 chime whistels
Out of curiosity, is it appropriate for the consist to have the Silver Vista? I could have sworn the DRGW didn't add that car to their roster till much later like in the 50's when the tourism took off on the Silverton Branch.
TFN5459 It's actually very appropriate, The Silver Vista only lasted from 1947 to 1953. I've seen similar consists to the one seen here, the only problem really is that the caboose should be located between the freight and the varnish for a typical consist.
Big Diehl Thanks for the info. Yeah I recall the Silver Vista (the original one at least) was destroyed under "mysterious circumstances" (probably the Rio Grande trying to get tourists away from the Silverton branch since they weren't interested in keeping the line open) but I didn't know it was around before 1949. I did think the caboose looked pretty weird to be tacked on behind the passenger cars. If anything they should have just left it off the train since there wouldn't have been a need in the first place. Perhaps they were looking for more passenger capacity on this trip and simply didn't have another car in the Pullman Green.
TFN5459 It would have been in the consist, though between the coaches and the freight cars back in the D& RGW days. I'd imagine due to the age of the cabooses and they haven't been rebuilt since who knows, it's safer to keep it on the rear.
Big Diehl I wanna get to Durango one day and see the D&SNG in service. Loved the video!
kinda weird seeing that train pass a BURGER KING...........
@97trainman on This trip, they're just props... back in 1949, that would have been the drinking water for the locomotive crew.
now correct me if I'm wrong. but back then before the d&s was a thing. the rail was not heavy enough for the 2-8-2s that currently reside there. back then. the engines used were the c class 2-8-0s. I know that's hard to do when the majority of your stuff is mikados. but they do have 315 to make it ultra realistic
+Southern The K-28's, such as the one seen here, would have been able to traverse the line to Silverton by this point. The even bigger K-36's and K-37's would not be able to move beyond Rockwood until the 1980's (I've seen photos of a 490 in the Hermosa Valley in the late 60's).
My understanding is the K-36's and K-37's used to like to bind up on
some of the tight curves in the Animas River Canyon. That was later
corrected, allowing them to traverse the branch in its entirety. In this
case, a K-27 would have been more prototypical power than a K-28 as
they were mostly reserved for the the San Juans and other passenger
trains out on the mainline not branch line mixed freight service.
Question: Did the 1949 -ish locomotives have the mechanical operated bell ringer or were they using the fireman's "hand power" on a bell cord ? ?
Good question…. I’d think by that point they did, I’ll have to look a little more.
At 7:46, 473's engineer went Cass.
Wow - I didn't know they had a Burger King in 1949. ;) Just kidding - very nice video!! :)
what are the water bags for?
the video is cut off a 4:08. Was she stopping for services or was it just pure difficulty making it up the grade?
Water stop to allow for more run-bys between there and Tank Creek.
Interesting. Something was off the entire video, like being just barely off focus. I can't put my finger on it
Alas, the Nikon D90 was a still camera first and foremost... Plus, it's 720 resolution seems like a potato today. Heck, when it came out (and it was the first DSLR to shoot video) it was already behind in the resolution.
It is 473's whistles because the loco is 473.
Hallo! Was bedeutet die 1949 in deinem Titel? Grüsse aus Deutschland! Jens
The train was representing a 1949 era train that would be traversing these rails then.
Not wierd its cool
Really great footage.
But to really be 1949, those freight cars should have the flying Rio Grande logo instead of the round one.
I believe its 476
lol XD I know what you mean!
Is that actually the 476 or is it the 473?
478
@WhyAyeMann ~ water stop
I much prefer D&S and C&TS locomotives when they're wearing Rio Grande paint, I wish they'd wear their original markings more often, in fact when you think about it, why do they even bother putting their names on the equipment? it's not like anyone actually thinks they built them, and other than markings on the rolling stock both railroads operate their equipment just as D&RGW would have.
It seems like a waste of time and paint to keep switching back and forth every time there's a photo session, why not just keep them in their D&RGW liveries?
Advertising! If you show someone your family photo with Durango and Silverton, or Cumbres and Toltec, it makes it easier for people who see that family's photo to figure out where to ride that train.
More like 2012, but who noticed??? Nice video though.
one of THE dombest things D&RGW ever did in 1973 approx. was to tear out the track from Durango to Chama
That track oughta be restored THEN Colorado & New Mexico USA would have the longest 3 foot gauge in NA
I'd do it to Farmington, NM too
microbusss In light of my recent visit to both railways I wondered the same thing. But then I thought why not do what West Virginia has done, make rail trails!
No passengers would ride that willingly, too many slow 20MPH miles and no real scenery.
1949, eh. Try 2009.