Well now, who changed their story? Who got a paid hotel room with Natalie and spent the night with her? Who fits the profile of a killer; Robert or the Captain of the Splendour? Hmmm. And, where the heck was Walken during all of this?
When I worked for Topsail Unlimited in Marina Del Rey One of my Side Jobs was Cleaning 🧼 & Painting Celebrities Boats & I worked on Their Boat before she died and met her in person!
The only thing you need to know is that he didn't want the lights turned on, or any search of the water done immediately after the disappearance. That tells you everything.
Totally agree. As he invited Walen, he had his coart perfectly planned The long argument to justify his jealousy and make everyone think Natalie was cheating on him. See how he spoke. Telling he loved her and both loved each other. Then he said he realized that everything changes in a minute. Shame on him as he did not call for her. Or even jump into the water to find her desperately. Now he doesn't show any tear, shock or feeling miserably for losing Natalie. No one acts as cold as him. We don't trust Wagner. It took him long. He justified the argue and made Nataly the guilty. Why he invited walker? Easy. To have the tremendous argue and push Natalie into the water. He is cold in his comments. As a sociopath behavior. He caught up with. Hypocrict. We had all and in a sudden I had nothing. His words. But never shared a tear if felt guilty for not getting hel or himself swim and looked for her. He knew the bad weather. He did not lise any detail.
He told the captain that Natalie was "missing" and told him not to call anyone... Many clues and still NO arrest, no punishment for the rich and famous.
And why did the captain, his charter, hes in charge, not overrule Wagner when he never believed that Wood would take that dingy? His story stinks just as much as Wagners. I think he knows what happened as well, and his changing his story years later for money no doubt, is only half the truth.
How could Wagner not call for help immediately upon realizing Natalie was missing? How did he just leave the body of the wife he claimed to love who had just drown and fly home leaving the boat caretaker to identify her? That is so reprehensible I cannot fathom it. I sat holding the hand of my husband who had been in a coma for 8 days, when they removed his respirator. I asked to stay alone with him in his hospital room until he took his last breath two hours later. I accompanied his body downstairs to the hospital morgue. The next day at the mortuary I was asked to identify him and I spent another 20 minutes alone with him without hesitation. My closest friend was with me and could have done it for me but that was my husband and companion for 45 years and I went by myself glad to have more time to say goodbye. Never in a million years would I have flown back home and left someone else to do any of this. That is cowardly at the very least.
I am truly sorry for the loss of your beloved husband. I cannot even imagine your grief and devastation at losing your lifelong partner. It speaks volumes about your character and how you treated your husband in life and in death. It also speaks volumes about Robert Wagner's character, or lack thereof, how he treated his wife in life and death. Two words that I don't use very often describe what I feel he did: morally reprehensible. God bless you and your husband, for I know that someday you two will be reunited for eternity.🙏❤
More than cowardly, but completely callous and cold-hearted. A heart of stone. Indeed, Psychopathic. It’s a blessing to be married that long, and a heartache when they’re gone because a part of you is missing. Thanks for sharing your story.
This woman will always have a special place in my heart. My mother passed when I was young and I don't remember her that well. I asked my father once what she looked like and he asked, "Do you know who Natalie Wood is ?" I had just seen "West Side Story" in school and said I did. He said. "Your mother looked just like Natalie Wood". I was so proud. Now every time I see Natalie in a movie or a picture, I smile and think of my mother and her. RIP, Natalie, Mom and Dad.
Have a similar store about my dad. My dad took his own life when I was 2 years old. I ask Grandma, who he looked like and she said they always thought he looked like Michael Landon. I have always had a soft spot in my heart for him❤ I understand your story, may your mom and my dad RIP
@@marilynwillett804 I believe that person is wondering why they wouldn't know for themselves if the person's mother looked like a famous actress because of pictures. The pictures would tell them, themselves that their mother looked like her indeed, instead of just the father saying she looked like the actress. I would think the same thing and find it a bit sad that they don't even have a picture of their mom 😢
I remember back in the day almost everyone suspected Robert Wagner had something to do with it. No one could understand how she ended up on a boat at night surrounded by dark water. The very situation that was the most terrifying to her. We all cried that day. She was very gifted and was such a beautiful human being.
@@justme880 Natalie Wood escaped the abusive Robert Wagner once, it's tragic he was able to sweet talk her into marrying him a second time. It cost her her life.
Everyone but that detective doing the investigation saying I had no reason to suspect this, that or the other thing. Uhhh 🤔🤔A dead body and a bs story ????
The fact that both Wagner and Walken immediately left the place in a chopper, not even willing to identify and escort the body, displays their cowardice. Both did not love her, both only used her for their ego.
That's one assumption. It's also possible Wagner was deeply traumatised and needed to withdraw and Walken helped him, people react differently to shock you're being very judgy without knowing anything. None of us can know for sure but even Natalie's family say Wagner loved her deeply. If they say that it's probably true right
@@annnee6818 No....the family doesn't want to look into the possibility that Wagner, the girls' stepfather, had a hand in their mother's death. It may be they just can't face it. Lane, Natalie's sister, didn't want to believe it at first, but finally had to conclude he really did do it.
@@cynthiamclellan6745Just because you fight doesn't mean you don't love each other... and how do you quantify HOW MUCH he or she loved the other??? Jealousy, anger, and rage can cause even the most circumspect person to sublimate that love in the moment, and cause them to act inappropriately. Add sufficient quantities of alcohol to the mix and it's easier to step over that precipice. However Natalie's death was caused, it's tragic--and worst of all: preventable.
She was the only woman on a boat with 3 men who were all drinking and she's the only one who goes missing. All 3 of those men know more than they're saying. They probably got their stories straight while they were drinking scotch and not calling for help.
Very Mysendrist take but yeah these guys all are talking ILL ab eachother which makes me think at least 2 of them know the full true story. Definitely not all 3 men tho. That just wouldn’t make sense to why one of them wouldn’t want to come out looking innocent.
He is ABSOLUTELY GUILTY AF. We need to get past the era of history where domestic violence is just swept under the rug and ignored. Poor, poor Natalie.
100% agree, it's an outrage Robert Wagner totally got away with killing Natalie Wood, using his star power and expensive lawyers to intimidate police into backing off. As the husband, police should have openly and fully investigated him as the prime suspect in her highly suspicious death from day one - if they had, poor Natalie might have got justice. Wagner is 92 now, and highly unlikely to face justice - in this world anyway. But I absolutely believe some very ugly karma is coming for him. He has a haunted look in his eyes since she died. Living with something so heinous on your conscious as drowning the mother of your children, can't be easy. He fully deserves every moment of torment he gets, in this world and the next!
I was a teenager in Marina Del Rey when this happened. My dad knew Robert Wagner, and I must say Robert Wagner was absolutely an extremely charming man (a red flag to me). He had a lot of power in the entire area. Everyone in the Marina also knew Dennis Davern, and what I do remember is that after he talked to the tabloids he was persona non grata in the Marina. It felt to me like he was frozen out of the boating community to the point he probably just had to leave. I think most people at the time sided with Robert Wagner and believed him. I thought it was very suspicious. I couldn't believe that Natalie would have gotten in the dingy to go to shore no matter how angry she might have been - especially on the far side of Catalina. Catalina is pretty remote, and the far side of Catalina is much rougher than Avalon harbor, where they had been the night before. I was around boats all the time and it would have scared me, especially on a November night - and I'm not afraid of the water at all.
I also lived in Marina del Rey at age 21 on the beach. Used to see stunning Bo Derek come jogging by the shore line. I remember swimming when the undertow pulled me under so severely I was glad to be less than shoulder deep to safely escape ! 🙀 Never went swimming in that area ever again, only Santa Monica Beach. 😺
@@nicvanorton6795 - The only thing I noticed was they seemed to give him a lot of sympathy, so at that time I didn't see him being treated any differently than before. When people talked, it was about how tragic it was, with no one seriously thinking Robert Wagner had anything to do with it. There was a lot of gossip against Dennis Davern, that he just wanted a payday out of it by selling stories to the tabloids.
@@SweetChicagoGator - Wasn't it a great place, though? The marina itself had such a different feel than it does now. Everyone came there and was welcomed. Now it feels like it's mainly for the super rich, and all the "peon" normal people aren't welcome. Back then everyone enjoyed it and "normal" people could afford a boat even if it was just a Hobie Cat or a dingy. It was so busy on beautiful days. I agree about the beach right there, it's not exactly a good swimming beach in my opinion either. My dad owned and ran the fuel dock so we saw so many celebrities constantly. I never got to see Bo Derek running on the beach though 😀😏😊
I believe Robert beat and then pushed her overboard to drown her because it was her greatest fear. I believe Robert Wagner is a wolf in sheeps clothing, he just knew his popularity would get him off any charges.
Hard to get over her saying she not only feared water, but, "dark water, sea water". My mom (who has since passed) really loved Natalie Wood. She even kind of resembled her and also at one point had a boat and would often go to the Channel Islands. My mom always felt Natalie's death was foul play.
I can't speak to how your mom felt, nor how accurate she was. But as for Natalie and her fear of dark water... That certainly didn't get in the way of her yachting lifestyle!
Natalie was murdered. Also I am sickened by Christopher Walken's silence. I really liked him as an actor, but this taints him very badly. He knows exactly what happened.
I was talking to this guy who seemed very nice, one, over a random discussion, he yelled at me. He then came back apologizing but if there is something that I have learned over these documentaries and people around me, never allow the smallest form of violence snd anger ussue. I just stopped everything that day.
Getting into an argument and then smashing a wine bottle on a table is a very scary, violent act that he denied doing at first. He admitted it later. Smashing a wine bottle and holding a broken glass bottle is no “argument”.
Smashing a wine bottle on a table is scary? He didn't smash it at or on her. THAT would be scary. From what I heard in this video, she had just as violent a temper as he did and didn't seem to fear him since I would bet she could be just as "violent" back.
@@mortimerbrewster3671arguing with someone holding what could potentially become a weapon IS scary. You can't tell me someone who is yelling at you and holding a sharp object wouldn't be intimidating.
@@moniqueloomis9772 No not at all otherwise they would have ALL LOOKED ALIKE like they do today, high brows big fat duck mouth lips, no more lovely irish faces, everyone deeply tanned. in those days, Crawfood, or Bette Davis or any actress all retained their individual appearance.
Considering the gruesome story being told I think your comment about the people being beautiful back is somewhat off color, though I know you meant well.
His behaviour that night just doesnt add up to what he is saying, its not normal for your wife to go missing from a boat at night and be so blasé about it and insist not to send a search party to look for her. This alone speaks volumes!!
the most suspicious is the fact they waited three hours before calling the life guard. Even if you believed she went in the dinghy you know the waters are rough a normal person would call the coast guard as soon as you saw that both Natalie and the dingy were missing.
I believe and always have believed that Robert Wagner killed Natalie. Why in the world would she go alone out into a dingey ? Not to mention she's terrified of dark waters. I know myself how she felt about the water. I'm very afraid and the thought of what she went through makes me sick. He will never pay here simply because of who he is but there is another judgment day on the way. We loved you Natalie and I hope you are resting in peace.
What if she wanted to get away from the water and tried to get in the dinghy to go back to shore? I haven’t watched this episode in a really long time. It’s a very shady situation.
He did it, got away with it and gave the best performance of his life. A husband who is worried about his missing wife would pull out ALL the stops to find her! He most certainly wouldn't just sit down with a bottle of scotch as though nothing happened. He was just buying time... Also, what husband would fly off in a helicopter and not identify the body of the woman he so called loved and not say his last good-bye? A guilty coward that's who... Look in his eyes when he talks, you can tell he's lying.
@@randomvintagefilm273 process of elimination of all other possible scenarios plus a huge factor is his behavior immediately afterwards and then over the years after. Not one thing he did or said was consistent with how any reasonable person would expect one in his position to act.
@@randomvintagefilm273 By not calling the police after she is missing for a few hours? Distracting them by telling to surch on land and not in the water?
I believe it's too late Wagner's too old by the time it shows up He's guilty he maybe gone. I don't care what anyone says you got money guilt is wiped clean....it's all sickening.
They all sat there drinking scotch while she's in the dark in open water!? Not calling anyone until hours later!?(if that's what happened) They are all guilty!
yes it is really hard to imagine walken, even if he did not know the circumstances, hearing that his close friend and costar was missing off the boat at nite and not going into full panic search mode, instead just calmly drinking.
@@joejones9520 Was Walken drinking Scotch too? Maybe I didn't hear correctly but I thought it was just RJ and the other guy. Last I heard of Walken is that he went to his room when Natalie went to hers.
@@60misst the stories are extremely confusing and conflicting but the main truth Ive gleaned about Walken is that he definitely was awake and present when it was announced by either Wagner or Davern that Natalie was missing. After that he may have gone to bed, he may have stayed up drinking, it's not clear but nothing has led me to believe he did not know she was missing early on, an hr/hrs before it was reported and before she was found.
Natalie Wood was terrified of water because when she was 5 years old, her own mother plotted with a director to film her drowning in a flash flood, without telling her about the scene, because they wanted her fear to look real on film.
@@granny58 Her mother was horrible ... I've read how she forced the very young Natalie to behave flirtatiously w/powerful men in the industry - and to sit on their laps whenever possible. Terrible woman.
Yeah, the movie title was The Green Promise (1949). She was injured and struggling in the water after a prop bridge collapsed but the director didn't say "Cut!" because they wanted to use the take for a dramatic scene. Her wrist was broken and she was still flailing in white water rapid conditions.
Fascinating. She has a specific fear of dark water, sea water and expresses it in an interview. Then she dies in that specific way. I wonder if she had a premonition of her death?
Yes, Natalie was remembering the chart she planned before coming to this earthly realm. Natalie also knew immediately the first time she saw Robert that they would marry someday.
I'm terrified of the ocean, the lake even a pond. It's like going into the dark abyss, so I totally get exactly what she meant when she said she didn't like dark water. No way would someone who's terrified by dark water would throw herself in the ocean.
but she was not so terrified to avoid boating trips. It was an accident, she tripped trying to tie the dinghy. She fell into the water already unconscious. Still, Robert Wagner, did not tell all. Maybe he feels guilty that he didnt look for her any more
@@Orangecat693 that is what I am saying. The dinghy was banging against the boat, it was said. And Natalie had had a few drinks. It was claimed that she slipped, hit her head and was already unconscious when she fell into the water. On the other hand, people out there on other boats claimed to have heard s.o. scream for help but didnt believe. On such boats the engines are noisy and the music and the laughter do the rest
I don't believe Natalie got into the dingy< Scared of him, scared of dark water. Robert Wagner covered up the circumstances that led to her unbelievable death. He didn't call for help right away then has the gall to seem devastated with the sudden news. So sad
totally agree. as someone who struggles with the same fear, no way NO WAY would I ever get into a rocky dingy in the middle of the night... ever. the thought of her floating in that water is terrifying to me, to think about... no way did she get into that dingy by herself. 100%.
Also, Wagner didn’t go identify her body; the Boat Captain did. His account made sense, and was partially corroborated when the two witnesses came forward many years later and they placed/saw both Wagner and Wood on the back of the boat, just as the Captain said…and then it went silent. Their fighting stopped abruptly. And given that earlier, she ask the Captain to take her over to Avalon, why in the world would she go there alone, late at night, and had been drinking? That was a stupid fabrication on Wagner’s part. He’s guilty as sin.
@@bliss4383 100% right, Robert Wagner's version of events on the boat that night simply isn't credible, and his conduct since his wife's death - including refusing to submit to police interviews - strongly suggests guilt. I think after 9 years Natalie was heartily sick of Wagner's controlling ways and jealous rages like embarrassing her in front of her co-star, Oscar-winner Christopher Walken. I believe she had made comments to RJ about divorce, and he wasn't going to let her leave the marriage alive. It's the classic 'If I can't have you, no one else can'. Poor Natalie made the mistake so many abuse victims make, she didn't get herself away to a safe location before leaving/threatening to leave him. He was then able to stop her rejecting him, by inflicting the cruellest death imaginable on her. The bruises on her face and body tell an ugly story. How he could push her into the sea at night, knowing how terrified of dark water she was, abandon her to her lonely fate and sit drinking whisky for over an hour before raising the alarm, I do not know. Robert Wagner doesn't have a heart - he has a swinging brick! It's sickening he got away with killing his wife, just because he's a celebrity.
She was so beautiful, and a great actor. “Splendor in the Grass” is one of my favorite films … she was mesmerizing with those dark brown eyes. I have never believed her death was an accident. Something’s been rotten in Denmark for decades since her “accidental” drowning demise.
@@dawnbailey824yes she plays a very good part in that film . Obviously all her films were good . But as you say that film was brilliant. And memorable . So yes I agree with you on that one .
This was a crime of passion, fueled by alcohol. Sometimes, when people tell their partner that they're going to leave them or the relationship is over, the other one goes berserk.Because of his wealth and celebrity, the police tiptoed around him and basically let him off the hook. Once again proving rich people can beat the legal system. Walken is a young guy and his career is exploding; he doesn't want to get caught up in a love triangle or scandal that could taint his career.
That’s exactly what happened. I was going to comment but you have said what I wanted to say. Bottom line Wagner done it. Either passion or he was tired of the fighting and didn’t want to go through a divorce. I think that he hit her that night too.
Jealousy and money will rip a relationship to shreds more than anything else. My late husband suspected his wife of seeing someone else and in a state of jealous rage wiretapped their phones. She found out and ended the marriage and he swore he'd never let jealousy affect his life like that again.
It makes me sick how these double standards play out. If the facts were exactly the same and this happened to an ordinary citizen, the man would have been arrested immediately!
I remember when this happened & remember telling my parents that Robert Wagner had something to do with it. Anyone who's scared of the water (my mother was also) would never NEVER put themselves in a position especially at night, a stormy night, to secure a dingy or go ashore in her nightgown & socks!! Their fear of the water would prevent that!! Wagner is responsible, he killed her, maybe accidentally but regardless he got away with it
@@harperstacey9604 they have been brainwashed. She has been painted as the adulterer and she was not around to defend herself. He had pushed Natalie’s sister out of the picture so all they heard were his lies.
@@ninabobina2006 If your wife's sister were accusing you of murdering her, knowing you had nothing to do with her death, wouldn't you push her aside too? I wouldn't hesitate.
Most telling was A. leaving the scene without identifying the body and B. waiting hours before alerting anyone she was missing while drinking scotch. GUILTY.
There’s no way she went out there on her own. Years ago, I remember watch Turner Classic Movies and they had a sweet tribute to Natalie Wood narrated by Robert Redford and it spoke of their friendship and working together on set. He said something that always stood out to me and that was how he had no clue about Natalie’s deep seated fear of water when he and her were goofing off on the set of Inside Daisy Clover, and he jokingly picked her up and jumped into the water with her and he said she had such a visceral reaction that he had never seen from her before. He had no clue about her fear until that point and said that he never forgot the look of sheer terror on her face. That story is why I will never believe that she went out by herself. I can imagine that they had an argument and Wagner pretended to be calm, lured her out of the cabin by asking her to hold a flashlight or lantern up for him so that he could see well enough to secure the dingy better and that’s when he made his move. I think that would explain why she had put a coat on as she had intended to go outside the cabin, only she hadn’t been going out there to get the dingy and she hadn’t gone alone-at least that’s my theory. I always get chills hearing about the passing boat passengers who claim they heard a man mockingly saying “Oh hold on, we’re coming to get you.” I definitely think it was Wagner and he had lured Natalie to bring the light closer to him while he was trying to tie the dingy but in reality was untying it from the boat and then he either pretended to slip or trip and grab onto her arm (which could explain the bruising) before throwing her overboard, he could’ve done this so that if she survived or anyone came to help he could claim it was simply an accident and his clumsiness was the result of a night of drinking. I think the fact that he waited so long to call the police is extremely damning, I bet he waited so long to give the dingy enough time to float away from the boat so that he could claim she just disappeared and that the injuries on her body could be more easily explained away by struggling in the open water.
Excellent theory! It was premeditated, he lured Natalie out to help him tie up the dingy and then made his move. Never wanting lights or a search team shows his guilt.
What's especially sickening is her children believe her death to be an accident, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a psycho who wants money, or to spread lies. While I agree that there are some folks out there who want a shock-story, the circumstances related to Natalie's death are just too odd and unsettling for her death to be a simple accident.
@@TheLauraVEffect Well, if it is sickening how manipulative he is, sure, but I don't find his children's behavior sickening. We clearly hear here a biased representation of the story, clearly one-sided and manipulative itself. Maybe because of this documentary it is so "obvious" that he is the killer, when in reality something else may have happened which is hidden here but is not for his children? I don't know. I do not have any desire to judge his children in this situation as I am assuming they have more information or at least they want to believe otherwise, and I would understand them in both cases.
@@enigma8147 Basic critical thinking skills would have to be lacking to deem him innocent. A person without his social status would have been sent to jail after obtaining all of the tremendous amounts of circumstantial evidence.
Robert Wagner: I feel guilty of not being there for her. Also Robert Wagner: Nah let's leave it for a few hours, maybe she'll turn up. He killed her, no doubt in my mind.
I have always believed that Robert Wagner was responsible for Natalie Wood’s death, and that Christopher Walken and Davern knew the truth, but covered up for Wagner.
Because one of the theories about that night is that Natalie caught Chris and Robert in bed. Supposedly, Natalie was going to leave Robert for Chris, i guess not best pleased about finding them in bed together. @@gbonkers666
People on shore that night heard screams, sound amplifies over water, and 3 men on the boat heard nothing? Natalie couldn’t swim, feared water. Robert Wagner, Christopher Walken and The Captain know the truth.
My half brother is a celebrity, my mother, a writer/producer/actress in film and tv..from my own personal experience, i must comment I think most celebrities are pretentious, narcissistic, sadistic.. such a pity for the family members and friends! Natalie lost her life 💔
What's most scary is his memoir and how callously he talks about her death, presenting himself as innocent, loving and caring. He's a monster who doesn't regret what he did. The more sociopathic a perpetrator is, the more they try to control the narrative and manipulate their audience by talking about "love" and "heart" and stuff. The title of his memoir disgusts me, just like his voice. It's pure hypocrisy and 100% dishonest.
I've always hated wagner ever since i heard the captains version of events and witnesses. he clearly had no intention of trying to rescue her and just let her drown. a true psychopath with no empathy for his own wife and child R.I.P Natalie.
Dennis Davern could have defied Wagner and called harbor patrol,so as much as a friend he claimed to be Natalie's friend In the book "goodbye Natalie, goodbye splendour"he failed her too but unlike Wagner,he does feel guilt
@@addiesadler9377 he was essentially kept “captive” in Wagner’s home so that he could meet nor talk with anyone. This man had to identify Natalie’s body that morning because Wagner REFUSED. What a great husband.
@@ninabobina2006 yes and Davern said identifying Natalie's body was very traumatic..he said all he could remember was her eyes.. I guess the morgue attendants didn't bother to try and close them.. Wagner didn't even view her at the funeral home and he had hired a professional makeup artist and hair stylist..I heard she looked great.. but he didn't want to see her.. wonder why..most people want closure that way
@@addiesadler9377 I think he was a coward did not want to cross RJ. His guilt is On going and that is the punishment he lives. Shame RW doesn't have a conscious.
100% but it’s even sadder because apparently Natalie told her sister Lana that it was “better to go with the devil you know” when she told her she got back together with Wagner.
@@Lizzie-ve7kt Wow, that really is sad - and chilling. That philosophy wound up costing her her life. I never trusted Robert Wagner, something cruel and ruthless behind his eyes. I think sadly life had taught Natalie to expect abuse from males. They were tough times for women. When Natalie was 16, she suffered a brutal prolonged rape by Kirk Douglas. He'd lured her to a hotel suite at the Chateau Marmont LA with talk of an audition for a movie role. She emerged hours later, and got into her Mom's car in silence, bloody, bruised and shaking. It was the Summer of 1955, and there was no question of reporting the vicious rape. Kirk Douglas was a world famous movie star and director at the height of his powers, with his own movie production company. Publicly accusing such a powerful man would have ended Natalie's career, not his. Things have improved somewhat for women in the decades since, but the Harvey Weinstein scandal makes you wonder quite how much.
I cannot believe a man who claimed to love Natalie so much…would make sure she died in the one way that surely tortured her beyond belief. He used her BIGGEST LIFELONG FEAR against her. That’s just the lowest of the low. He spoke with police that day for essentially five minutes and then they let him go home because he was “obviously distraught”. He never spoke of it again, not to the police and not to anyone. If he had nothing to hide, why wait 3 hours before calling the shore and the Coast Guard? Why REFUSE to help search, why refuse to speak to the public and the media, or the police, as well as Natalie’s friends and families? He knew Natalie was in that water. The biggest fear of her life since childhood. How could he?? To hear her screams and her begging for help, and then having him just TAUNT her. That’s so cruel and heartless. Does that happen with people like us…everyday average citizens? He never spoke with them again. When Wagner left that dock, he insisted that Dennis Davern identify the body, and from there kept Davern basically a prisoner in Wagner’s home! Lana was the only one asking him questions continuously, and he kicked her out of Natalie’s children’s lives. When Lana asked Natalie WHY she’d go back to RJ, Natalie’s response was, “sometimes the Devil you know is better than the devil you don’t.” That poor woman.
Yeah I agree. I think it’s obvious her husband had a lot to do with it. I mean listen to his words. He said “us” and “we had to fight to protect it (what they had together)” he said this about their love and I think it’s telling and controlling language. Listen to his words 13:52. Just my thoughts 🤷♀️
It’s said allegedly she had caught him in compromising position with Christoper Walker. Years before the reason they broke up is allegedly because she caught him with his butler, who he wouldn’t let go at her insistence. They say in Hollywood he was bi sexual. I think he made up some crazy excuse about what she saw with his personal butler he wouldn’t let go of and she took him back. It was odd that he had this personal butler, who needs a butler unless you are royalty. . You don’t usually hear about any younger Hollywood guy at that time having a personal butler, he wasn’t royalty, and he allegedly had this unnaturally close relationship with the guy. She had asked him to get rid of him and yet he would never get rid of the guy. He lived with them. People always assumed he was jealous of Walken and her, but seems like it might have been the other way around. They say she was devastated when she caught him the first time with the butler, because she really loved him. I think that is why she took him back. She loved him so much and wanted to believe the excuses he gave her. I think he may be more closeted because of the times, he knew that would hurt his career so he likely married her as a cover for being gay. Rock Hudson was gay and he got married to his secretary to try and squash the rumors. She was such a beautiful woman and had such a rough time in Hollywood. They also said she was brutally raped by a famous director and by Kirk Douglas when she was a teenager. She also had a mother that had mental issues. Her mother had been told by a sort of psychic she would have a tragic accident in water, so Natalie and her mother were afraid of water because of the psychic saying that. She nearly drowned on a set when there was a accident as a child.
@@marciajones2993 the story about Wagner and the “butler”, Lana said in her book that that fight between RJ and Natalie did happen and that she had walked in on them. Things started getting violent and Natalie ran out of the house to a neighbor’s. The child of the people that lived there said she did show up there yelling for help and to please let her in, and they did. RJ came looking for her and the neighbors told him she was inside but she said she didn’t want to see him and stayed the night there. I don’t believe the Wagner and Walken rumor at all, but I don’t think Lana would lie about all of the allegations she made in her book about that marriage. Wagner is a pompous narc.
I always believed he killed her and used her biggest fear to do it ,she ended up in the water because he did it ,I believe he battered her first then did it
I can't imagine this to be ANYTHING else but an alcohol-fueled accidental crime of passion ... and a legacy of horrible cowardice. I liked Wagner before, but this sordid affair soured everything. RJW's remorse may have been genuine, but refusal to ID Natalie's body, accompany her, ANYTHING is a measure of him as a man. There too many lies that were exposed after the fact. There were no reasons for smaller lies but to cover for the big one. Claim that a woman who was publicly terrified of dark sea water would go to investigate in the middle of the night is as absurd as claiming that someone with severe vertigo would go reach over the edge of a lighthouse to adjust a loose flapping flag.
Christopher walken was also on the boat, right? Sometimes people get inspired to pick a target when they are with someone else, like goading each other. What if they both had something to do with it and she lost her life?
You hear about some cruise ships where someone went missing - some were suicidal and others were pushed off it’s scary and he got away with it and at his age it’s sort of too late he will die and take it to the grave. I hope he rots in where the devil lives
Its so obvious that he pushed her into the water and then untied the dinghy himself. Then he came up with the ridiculous story of Natalie leaving the boat in the middle of the night and forced everyone else on board to stick to the script. Robert Wagner may not be punished in this life, but trust he will pay for his actions karmically.
I can understand not wanting to see his wife in that condition but he could have accompanied Dennis Deverne and at least stayed with her until she was sent back to LA.
She also had a terrifying incident happen to her on set when she was a child actress. She was walking on a set bridge over water for one of her scenes and the bridge failed and she dropped down into the water and ever since then she had a very justified fear of deep, dark water.
Whenever I think about Wood’s death I’m reminded of that old movie A Kiss Before Dying. In that movie Wagner’s character throws his pregnant girlfriend from the roof of a building & makes it look like an accident. The irony has never been lost on me.
Here's another coincidence concerning a Robert only its Robert Blake. Plays a killer in the movie "In Cold Blood" and then kills his grifrer wife 39 years later and got a way with it. His best role ever! Oscar worthy!
Could her sister get police evidence of domestic abuse. Robert is guilty because he didn't look for her ASAP, AND She was scared to death of black water and swimming.
@@christinejackson950 no, he wasnt involved in her death and didnt know anymore that night than Wagner led him to believe. Im sure he's put the pieces together since though.
he IS NOT(!) a ''good actor'' - he is poor one. And if you look at him ATTENTIVELLY you'll see that he LIES. his face is LYING, his eyes are LYING. he is JUST ANOTHER ''j''... ''r.j.'' or ''o.j.'' - them BOTH ''j'' 's belong to jail (at least)
@@christinejackson950 yes walken??? Guess Hollywood comes first!! 😇😇 Not anymore?? We all know how PR machines work now🧐. Movies, movie stars these days ?? Mean nothing if I feel I want to watch fantasy i.e. movies I will. Unfortunately Hollywood, has become to controversial... Too woke. Will smith episode? I totally lost respect for anything to do with actor's nominations, will smith assaulted a man in front of millions, and was never prosecuted?? How would that work in the general public??? Disgraceful? Money and celebrity above the law??
she had never operated it other than taking over the wheel in open water, she could never have put it in the water, she had zero interest in stuff like that and always let others handle it.
I have read and watched a lot about this case. In several places they say their first marriage ended because she walked in on Wagner in a compromising position with a man. Speculation is that she may have seen Wagner with Walken or Wagner was jealous of Walken and Wood. Something is fishy here and I hope for her family's sake they resolve this and find the truth. Natalie was a beautiful woman who you felt like you knew. She seemed warm and caring and while glamorous also accessible. I remember the day she was found, and I felt so sad that she was cheated out of many years of life, watching her kids get married, more films, etc. It was heartbreaking and still is upsetting to me all these years later.
You're right about why she divorced him in 1962. The manager of the Harbor Reef restaurant who thought Walken and RJ might have been flirting, was gay and some thought he was just seeing what he wanted to see. I don't think the two men were flirting with each other.
From everything I've been hearing all these years I think it's plain to see that he is guilty and yet he's still walking around all these years acting so innocent. I get sick everytime I hear him talk about her.
If you weren't there, Robert Wagner, then how can you insist "it was an accident." Wouldn't the correct response be to say I have no idea what happened." ?
Yep and the detectives just took his word for it. Didn’t separate the men and bring them in for questioning once on shore. Anyone else would’ve been a suspect but because he is a celebrity he gets away with celebrity privilege.
Yes, I agree….that’s EXACTLY what happened & I honestly suspect that’s why he’ll NEVER be held accountable. Major injustice to Natalie & her family but ultimately God will be the judge & that’s something NO ONE can escape.
Its so crazy that she did an interview saying how afraid she was of dark water and then it ends like that. The witness statements don’t make any sense.
100% Robert Wagner put her in that dark water to die the death she had always feared. He's an abusive monster who killed his wife in a jealous rage over her flirtation with the younger, sexier Christopher Walken. His story about her going on deck alone in the dark, in her nightclothes, to 'tie up a banging dinghy', then slipping, knocking herself out and falling in the sea, is pure invention. Neither of the other two men on board that night heard any such 'banging dinghy'. And besides, if a job needed to be done on deck, Natalie would have instructed her employee to do it, not gone up in her nightie and done it herself! No one has confirmed Wagner's explanation, it's a total fairy tale. Witnesses saw the couple's final confrontation on the deck, and bruises on her face and body confirm the ugly truth. A toxic combination of jealous rage, revenge, fear of abandonment and alcohol, combined to fuel his violent and ultimately fatal attack on his petite wife. After 9 years, the couple's second marriage was on the rocks, and Natalie was talking about divorce. Abuse victims are frequently killed after they leave, or threaten to leave, their abuser. I don't believe this highly suspicious spousal death is any different. That Wagner waited over an hour before he raised the alarm that she was missing from the boat, ludicrously claiming she'd taken the dinghy to shore, alone in the dark, confirms his callous disregard for her safety. I think he wanted her dead because she no longer wanted him - the classic 'If I can't have you, no one else will'. It's outrageous Robert Wagner was able to intimidate police with his star power and expensive lawyers. Law enforcement should have investigated him as prime suspect in his wife's suspicious death from day one. If they had only done their jobs properly, Natalie might have got the justice she so deserved! #JusticeForNatalie
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Knowing how afraid Natalie was of water, it surprises me that she was on a yacht that was surrounded by water. But I think actually being IN the water was what she was afraid of
Wagner is 93 years old and Natalie was murdered at age 43. He has lived 50 more years than Natalie. How can he still be walking free 42 years after her death? No one saw him pull her by her ankles and roll her unconscious body into the freezing ocean ~ so? Months before that trip to Catalina, she told him she was going to divorce him a second time so this was intentional homicide, 1981 Thanksgiving weekend was the weekend Natalie had to die. He was afraid his bisexuality would finally be known by everyone. After marrying him in December 1957 in Arizona, she "kicked" him out of the house for which she paid in autumn 1961, divorce was finalized in 1962. The cause of the divorce was she awoke in the middle of the night only to walk in on him having sex with his British gay butler, David Cavendish. It's difficult to believe she remarried him, telling, when asked by her sister Lana, the reason was, "It's better to be with the devil you know than others you dont know." I've been told he has been protected and I ask, by whom? Who would protect this arrogant, bisexual lying murderer? He had been seeing his current wife, Jill Oppenheimer (St John, for movies) for months if not years. Their first "official" date, 1982 Valentines Day, was about 2 1/2 months after "the love of his life" died. Prior to being elected, the newest LA County District Attorney pledged to convene a grand jury to discover the evidence to bring him to trial. I've called his office, speaking to one of his assistants but haven't had a call returned. In 2018, Robert Wagner was named a person of interest in the ongoing investigation into Wood's death. Currently, nothing has been done.
If he cared he would of search frantically the minute she was gone! Knowing how scared she was of the water! Who sits and drinks?It’s sounds like a cover up!
Robert Wagner definitely had something to do with Natalie Wood's death. It was not accidental. Wood's intense fear of the water makes all possible theories of an accidental drowning unlikely. Wagner's immediate action to corroborate all stories points to a cover up. Wagner's lying about having had a fight with Wood shows deception. I think Walken and the captain felt extremely pressured by Wagner to go along with one story. Kudos to the captain for eventually speaking out despite his making a profit from telling the truth. Walken seems like he just wanted to avoid getting involved. Walken likely witnessed the fighting between Wagner & Wood but he probably did not see how Wood actually ended up in the water so decided to stay out of it. Shame that Wagner was never held accountable. Fact that Wagner refuses to speak with investigators now speaks volumes.
Lies, lies, lies!!! He was angry and hit her, she fell into the water. Your wife is 'missing' and you break open a bottle of Scotch and don't call for help???? Wow. Pieces of my heart... Right. 💔
that captain is inconsistent. i remember him going on tv years ago, and saying that after she went overboard, he wanted to help her, but wagner told him, "just leave her." that was one of the things that i always remembered from that account; it had really stood out to me. and why would the witness just now come out 30yrs later?
To me, there IS something very unsettling about Chris Walken..I just don't know what to think. In those good old Hollywood days Celebrities were propped up on pedestals no matter the condition. Remember Dean Martin always had a rock glass in his hand. When I was 8 yrs old I was watching him on black and white television, I thought " oh THAT'S what adults do when they have a problem. They have a drink and they sit there and figure it out."
@@c.joyceb.8991 He does but feels it isnt his best interesr. Unless Wagner or Walker have a dearhbed come to Jesus confession the truth will never come out.
I am petrified of water especially sea water. I would have NEVER got into a dingy into the darkness of the night or even daylight)). I can't hardly breath just thinking about it. So I absolutely don't think Natalie Wood would have ever gotten into the dingy...I just can't grasp her doing that. I do believe that Robert Wagner is his guilty as guilty could be. And they I hope they find it out. Rip Natalie Woods
I was gonna write the same thing. I am terrified of the sea. No freaking way she got on a dingy by herself having staff who could take her anywhere she wanted
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Well now, who changed their story? Who got a paid hotel room with Natalie and spent the night with her? Who fits the profile of a killer; Robert or the Captain of the Splendour? Hmmm. And, where the heck was Walken during all of this?
@Sam Lee accident death is a Hollywood Gold mine
When I worked for Topsail Unlimited in Marina Del Rey One of my Side Jobs was Cleaning 🧼 & Painting Celebrities Boats & I worked on Their Boat before she died and met her in person!
RJ...RJ...RJ you & I both know what happened your cowardness is the killer
2 mice swim, 1 mouse Drown but the other mouse keeps padding turning that cream into butter!!
The only thing you need to know is that he didn't want the lights turned on, or any search of the water done immediately after the disappearance. That tells you everything.
Totally agree. As he invited Walen, he had his coart perfectly planned The long argument to justify his jealousy and make everyone think Natalie was cheating on him. See how he spoke. Telling he loved her and both loved each other. Then he said he realized that everything changes in a minute. Shame on him as he did not call for her. Or even jump into the water to find her desperately. Now he doesn't show any tear, shock or feeling miserably for losing Natalie. No one acts as cold as him. We don't trust Wagner. It took him long. He justified the argue and made Nataly the guilty. Why he invited walker? Easy. To have the tremendous argue and push Natalie into the water. He is cold in his comments. As a sociopath behavior. He caught up with. Hypocrict. We had all and in a sudden I had nothing. His words. But never shared a tear if felt guilty for not getting hel or himself swim and looked for her. He knew the bad weather. He did not lise any detail.
RIP 🙏 Natalie you are loved and missed
Smells pretty guilty
Excellent point! There is only one reason he didn’t want lights on or a search in the water. He wanted her dead.
Yes and for anyone who dismisses Darren ,at least he’s passed 2 lie detector tests ,something RJ won’t touch w a ten foot pole
He told the captain that Natalie was "missing" and told him not to call anyone... Many clues and still NO arrest, no punishment for the rich and famous.
MGTOW
@Afterlife7377 Huh?
According to some guy 35 years later that had money coming to him after revising this story
And why did the captain, his charter, hes in charge, not overrule Wagner when he never believed that Wood would take that dingy? His story stinks just as much as Wagners. I think he knows what happened as well, and his changing his story years later for money no doubt, is only half the truth.
Wagner owned the yacht. The captain was also a family bodyguard. He was paid off or threatened. IMHO. @@paulinegallagher7821
How could Wagner not call for help immediately upon realizing Natalie was missing? How did he just leave the body of the wife he claimed to love who had just drown and fly home leaving the boat caretaker to identify her? That is so reprehensible I cannot fathom it. I sat holding the hand of my husband who had been in a coma for 8 days, when they removed his respirator. I asked to stay alone with him in his hospital room until he took his last breath two hours later. I accompanied his body downstairs to the hospital morgue. The next day at the mortuary I was asked to identify him and I spent another 20 minutes alone with him without hesitation. My closest friend was with me and could have done it for me but that was my husband and companion for 45 years and I went by myself glad to have more time to say goodbye. Never in a million years would I have flown back home and left someone else to do any of this. That is cowardly at the very least.
I am truly sorry for the loss of your beloved husband. I cannot even imagine your grief and devastation at losing your lifelong partner. It speaks volumes about your character and how you treated your husband in life and in death. It also speaks volumes about Robert Wagner's character, or lack thereof, how he treated his wife in life and death. Two words that I don't use very often describe what I feel he did: morally reprehensible.
God bless you and your husband, for I know that someday you two will be reunited for eternity.🙏❤
You loved him and he knows it where is. I am so sorry for your loss. May God give you peace. YOu are a good Woman
@@eileenstasczak6606 May he rest in Peace
he hit her or pushed her in the water or both and knew it would ruin his life if it got out so he let her drown.
More than cowardly, but completely callous and cold-hearted. A heart of stone. Indeed, Psychopathic.
It’s a blessing to be married that long, and a heartache when they’re gone because a part of you is missing. Thanks for sharing your story.
This woman will always have a special place in my heart. My mother passed when I was young and I don't remember her that well. I asked my father once what she looked like and he asked, "Do you know who Natalie Wood is ?" I had just seen "West Side Story" in school and said I did. He said. "Your mother looked just like Natalie Wood". I was so proud. Now every time I see Natalie in a movie or a picture, I smile and think of my mother and her. RIP, Natalie, Mom and Dad.
He killed her !!! He hit her knocked her out and carefully slid her body over the side of the boat into the water!! All lying !!!
Do you have photos of your mom? Do they look alike? That’s really sweet! I love this story. You’ll see your mom and dad again someday ❤
Have a similar store about my dad. My dad took his own life when I was 2 years old. I ask Grandma, who he looked like and she said they always thought he looked like Michael Landon. I have always had a soft spot in my heart for him❤
I understand your story, may your mom and my dad RIP
This isn't 1824 I'm sure there are photos of her.
@@marilynwillett804 I believe that person is wondering why they wouldn't know for themselves if the person's mother looked like a famous actress because of pictures. The pictures would tell them, themselves that their mother looked like her indeed, instead of just the father saying she looked like the actress. I would think the same thing and find it a bit sad that they don't even have a picture of their mom 😢
For someone who is scared of dark waters I don't believe that she did this on her own
Definitely not
AGREE WITH YOU
We will probably not know "the entire truth" til Robert Wagoner passes on...
🙏 RIP NATALIE WOOD 🙏
Yeah obviously not. Her worst nightmare came true. 😞
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Never tell someone your greatest fear.
That's very good advice!👍
My greatest fear is being a multi millionaire
@@Moon_Presence 🙄
@ just noisy! What a stupid things just be brave don’t be a chicken
My greatest fear is getting a billion dollars and living happily till 120yo
I remember back in the day almost everyone suspected Robert Wagner had something to do with it. No one could understand how she ended up on a boat at night surrounded by dark water. The very situation that was the most terrifying to her. We all cried that day. She was very gifted and was such a beautiful human being.
@@justme880 Natalie Wood escaped the abusive Robert Wagner once, it's tragic he was able to sweet talk her into marrying him a second time. It cost her her life.
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Everyone but that detective doing the investigation saying I had no reason to suspect this, that or the other thing. Uhhh 🤔🤔A dead body and a bs story ????
Did you look at the evidence of this case? It points to her death being accidental.
Sometimes all that drinking is a recipe for disaster.
The fact that both Wagner and Walken immediately left the place in a chopper, not even willing to identify and escort the body, displays their cowardice. Both did not love her, both only used her for their ego.
That's one assumption. It's also possible Wagner was deeply traumatised and needed to withdraw and Walken helped him, people react differently to shock you're being very judgy without knowing anything. None of us can know for sure but even Natalie's family say Wagner loved her deeply. If they say that it's probably true right
@@annnee6818 No....the family doesn't want to look into the possibility that Wagner, the girls' stepfather, had a hand in their mother's death. It may be they just can't face it. Lane, Natalie's sister, didn't want to believe it at first, but finally had to conclude he really did do it.
Years later I still can't shake this exact sentiment. 😢
@@annnee6818Why did they fight all the time? - maybe he didn't love her deeply
@@cynthiamclellan6745Just because you fight doesn't mean you don't love each other... and how do you quantify HOW MUCH he or she loved the other???
Jealousy, anger, and rage can cause even the most circumspect person to sublimate that love in the moment, and cause them to act inappropriately. Add sufficient quantities of alcohol to the mix and it's easier to step over that precipice.
However Natalie's death was caused, it's tragic--and worst of all: preventable.
She was the only woman on a boat with 3 men who were all drinking and she's the only one who goes missing. All 3 of those men know more than they're saying. They probably got their stories straight while they were drinking scotch and not calling for help.
Exactly. Why didn’t Wagner let the Capt search for her? Why did no me report it.those are the answers the cops should be searching for
Wow .. men always guilty!! Unbelievable
Jonathan Hart never tried to solve this case
Dude say he was scared for his life. Christopher Walken is a tool. He is a coward.😞
Very Mysendrist take but yeah these guys all are talking ILL ab eachother which makes me think at least 2 of them know the full true story. Definitely not all 3 men tho. That just wouldn’t make sense to why one of them wouldn’t want to come out looking innocent.
He is ABSOLUTELY GUILTY AF. We need to get past the era of history where domestic violence is just swept under the rug and ignored. Poor, poor Natalie.
@@pmcguinness3041 as f*ck
@@pmcguinness3041 as f....k
Were u there?
how do you know, were you there? You want him to be guilty to make you feel better.
100% agree, it's an outrage Robert Wagner totally got away with killing Natalie Wood, using his star power and expensive lawyers to intimidate police into backing off.
As the husband, police should have openly and fully investigated him as the prime suspect in her highly suspicious death from day one - if they had, poor Natalie might have got justice. Wagner is 92 now, and highly unlikely to face justice - in this world anyway. But I absolutely believe some very ugly karma is coming for him.
He has a haunted look in his eyes since she died. Living with something so heinous on your conscious as drowning the mother of your children, can't be easy. He fully deserves every moment of torment he gets, in this world and the next!
I was a teenager in Marina Del Rey when this happened. My dad knew Robert Wagner, and I must say Robert Wagner was absolutely an extremely charming man (a red flag to me). He had a lot of power in the entire area. Everyone in the Marina also knew Dennis Davern, and what I do remember is that after he talked to the tabloids he was persona non grata in the Marina. It felt to me like he was frozen out of the boating community to the point he probably just had to leave. I think most people at the time sided with Robert Wagner and believed him. I thought it was very suspicious. I couldn't believe that Natalie would have gotten in the dingy to go to shore no matter how angry she might have been - especially on the far side of Catalina. Catalina is pretty remote, and the far side of Catalina is much rougher than Avalon harbor, where they had been the night before. I was around boats all the time and it would have scared me, especially on a November night - and I'm not afraid of the water at all.
Did the people in the marina treat Wagner any differently after this?
I also lived in Marina del Rey at age 21 on the beach. Used to see stunning Bo Derek come jogging by the shore line. I remember swimming when the undertow pulled me under so severely I was glad to be less than shoulder deep to safely escape ! 🙀
Never went swimming in that area ever again, only Santa Monica Beach. 😺
@@nicvanorton6795 - The only thing I noticed was they seemed to give him a lot of sympathy, so at that time I didn't see him being treated any differently than before. When people talked, it was about how tragic it was, with no one seriously thinking Robert Wagner had anything to do with it. There was a lot of gossip against Dennis Davern, that he just wanted a payday out of it by selling stories to the tabloids.
@@SweetChicagoGator - Wasn't it a great place, though? The marina itself had such a different feel than it does now. Everyone came there and was welcomed. Now it feels like it's mainly for the super rich, and all the "peon" normal people aren't welcome. Back then everyone enjoyed it and "normal" people could afford a boat even if it was just a Hobie Cat or a dingy. It was so busy on beautiful days. I agree about the beach right there, it's not exactly a good swimming beach in my opinion either.
My dad owned and ran the fuel dock so we saw so many celebrities constantly. I never got to see Bo Derek running on the beach though 😀😏😊
@@litehold1144 Interesting, seems like celebrities are above suspicion on things like this more often than not.
I saw her with her children once when Wagner was filming a movie in Old Tucson. Seriously, she was even more stunning in real life. Just stunning!
that's not what matters.
Just imagine dying the very way you feared the most.... Very cruel
Yes and I believe he murdered her in the way he knew would be most terrifying and horrific for her… truly a nightmare. God rest her soul.
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He wanted her to suffer I believe.
I think he knows and other’s know if he did it he will face a holy God so in love and fighting like cats and dogs investigate
I believe Robert beat and then pushed her overboard to drown her because it was her greatest fear. I believe Robert Wagner is a wolf in sheeps clothing, he just knew his popularity would get him off any charges.
Hard to get over her saying she not only feared water, but, "dark water, sea water". My mom (who has since passed) really loved Natalie Wood. She even kind of resembled her and also at one point had a boat and would often go to the Channel Islands. My mom always felt Natalie's death was foul play.
true, maybe as a sailor/or there was a incident in a prevous existence
Your mom sounds like a smart woman.
You are beautiful
I can't speak to how your mom felt, nor how accurate she was. But as for Natalie and her fear of dark water... That certainly didn't get in the way of her yachting lifestyle!
@@williamanthony9090 you can't find no evidence of her being on the water alone. None!
Natalie was murdered. Also I am sickened by Christopher Walken's silence. I really liked him as an actor, but this taints him very badly. He knows exactly what happened.
Yup!
Pow!
Exactly
Same. There's no reason he can't come forward now and be honest about what happened.
He wasn’t silent. He spoke to the police voluntarily multiple times. It’s in the vid.
I was talking to this guy who seemed very nice, one, over a random discussion, he yelled at me. He then came back apologizing but if there is something that I have learned over these documentaries and people around me, never allow the smallest form of violence snd anger ussue. I just stopped everything that day.
Getting into an argument and then smashing a wine bottle on a table is a very scary, violent act that he denied doing at first. He admitted it later. Smashing a wine bottle and holding a broken glass bottle is no “argument”.
Smashing a wine bottle on a table is scary? He didn't smash it at or on her. THAT would be scary. From what I heard in this video, she had just as violent a temper as he did and didn't seem to fear him since I would bet she could be just as "violent" back.
Then why did he deny deny deny it?
@@mortimerbrewster3671arguing with someone holding what could potentially become a weapon IS scary. You can't tell me someone who is yelling at you and holding a sharp object wouldn't be intimidating.
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Smashing a wine bottle IS A VIOLENT ACT!
What else can you call it?
Please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
People were so beautiful back then..no lip fillers or cheek implants or botox..just authentic, natural beauty..RIP beautiful Natalie Wood..
Sorry to burst your bubble, but cosmetic surgeries that you spoke about have been around for centuries. 😕
@Monique Loomis ,exactly they must didn't go overboard( no pun intended)like today
@@moniqueloomis9772 No not at all otherwise they would have ALL LOOKED ALIKE like they do today, high brows big fat duck mouth lips, no more lovely irish faces, everyone deeply tanned. in those days, Crawfood, or Bette Davis or any actress all retained their individual appearance.
Considering the gruesome story being told I think your comment about the people being beautiful back is somewhat off color, though I know you meant well.
@@marilynwillett804 Agreed, but also look at Judy Garland and others, it started long before 😢
His behaviour that night just doesnt add up to what he is saying, its not normal for your wife to go missing from a boat at night and be so blasé about it and insist not to send a search party to look for her. This alone speaks volumes!!
The interview with Robert Wagner is his greatest acting achievement. He's guilty in my book, he even has this guilty air around him .
the most suspicious is the fact they waited three hours before calling the life guard. Even if you believed she went in the dinghy you know the waters are rough a normal person would call the coast guard as soon as you saw that both Natalie and the dingy were missing.
They all probably thought she made it to shore. They were wrong.
Only these were not normal people, they were big celebrities that usually guard their privacy. And Wagner probably thought she was in town.
They probably passed out
I believe and always have believed that Robert Wagner killed Natalie. Why in the world would she go alone out into a dingey ? Not to mention she's terrified of dark waters. I know myself how she felt about the water. I'm very afraid and the thought of what she went through makes me sick. He will never pay here simply because of who he is but there is another judgment day on the way. We loved you Natalie and I hope you are resting in peace.
Yep he's old now, so not much longer and he will have to face the music.
What if she wanted to get away from the water and tried to get in the dinghy to go back to shore? I haven’t watched this episode in a really long time. It’s a very shady situation.
@@JanetSmith900 she didnt know how to put it in the water or start it or dock it; no chance.
Jesus told Nicodemus '' You must be born again to enter heaven''.
I agree
No woman ever stops a screaming fight by going totally silent
He did it, got away with it and gave the best performance of his life. A husband who is worried about his missing wife would pull out ALL the stops to find her! He most certainly wouldn't just sit down with a bottle of scotch as though nothing happened. He was just buying time... Also, what husband would fly off in a helicopter and not identify the body of the woman he so called loved and not say his last good-bye? A guilty coward that's who... Look in his eyes when he talks, you can tell he's lying.
Precisely!
Agreed
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@@gilbertotongco8895 ''about'' whATT??!!... Lmaoooo 😂
It's astonishing Wagner got away with this all these years. Mind-boggling.
What proof do you have to convict this man?
@@randomvintagefilm273 process of elimination of all other possible scenarios plus a huge factor is his behavior immediately afterwards and then over the years after. Not one thing he did or said was consistent with how any reasonable person would expect one in his position to act.
@@randomvintagefilm273 By not calling the police after she is missing for a few hours? Distracting them by telling to surch on land and not in the water?
@@randomvintagefilm273 And by having her terrified asking neighbors to help her in the middle of the night.
I believe it's too late Wagner's too old by the time it shows up He's guilty he maybe gone. I don't care what anyone says you got money guilt is wiped clean....it's all sickening.
An innocent man doesn't need to tell others what to say during police interviews, and even less to write a book to convince others of their innocence.
OJ wrote a book too.
Why did he keep the boat captain at his house for a year?
@@HappyPlace5-bi2xe to keep him from talking
She was beautiful and talented. Very sad that her death still remains a mystery.
It’s no mystery. Wagner killed her.
There is nothing strange or mysterious about Natalie's death. He did it. It's so obvious.
Exactly
exactly its bigger ppl protecting him
yeah, and he got away with it, but heavens above will definitely punish him. he is old now so judgement for him is coming very soon!
The problem is they can't prove it. They can't prove how he did it.
right
They all sat there drinking scotch while she's in the dark in open water!? Not calling anyone until hours later!?(if that's what happened) They are all guilty!
shaddup
yes it is really hard to imagine walken, even if he did not know the circumstances, hearing that his close friend and costar was missing off the boat at nite and not going into full panic search mode, instead just calmly drinking.
Absolutely!!!
@@joejones9520 Was Walken drinking Scotch too? Maybe I didn't hear correctly but I thought it was just RJ and the other guy. Last I heard of Walken is that he went to his room when Natalie went to hers.
@@60misst the stories are extremely confusing and conflicting but the main truth Ive gleaned about Walken is that he definitely was awake and present when it was announced by either Wagner or Davern that Natalie was missing. After that he may have gone to bed, he may have stayed up drinking, it's not clear but nothing has led me to believe he did not know she was missing early on, an hr/hrs before it was reported and before she was found.
Natalie Wood was terrified of water because when she was 5 years old, her own mother plotted with a director to film her drowning in a flash flood, without telling her about the scene, because they wanted her fear to look real on film.
That's horrible
@@granny58 Her mother was horrible ... I've read how she forced the very young Natalie to behave flirtatiously w/powerful men in the industry - and to sit on their laps whenever possible. Terrible woman.
that's just deplorable. Who did the mother think she was, Joan Crawford?
That's just HORRIBLE!!! 😢 What a TERRIBLE Mother!!
Yeah, the movie title was The Green Promise (1949). She was injured and struggling in the water after a prop bridge collapsed but the director didn't say "Cut!" because they wanted to use the take for a dramatic scene. Her wrist was broken and she was still flailing in white water rapid conditions.
Fascinating. She has a specific fear of dark water, sea water and expresses it in an interview. Then she dies in that specific way. I wonder if she had a premonition of her death?
Yes, Natalie was remembering the chart she planned before coming to this earthly realm. Natalie also knew immediately the first time she saw Robert that they would marry someday.
The fear was from some incident during filming when she was a child iirc.
First comment that made sense. Wow how chilling
Robert Wagner knows exactly what happened.
So does Walken
@@LinDuhLou plausible. They were both on the boat!
Rumor has it she caught Wagner and Walken "together"
And he will take the truth to his grave.
Of course he does. He knows he lost his wife when she accidentally drowned in the ocean.
I'm terrified of the ocean, the lake even a pond. It's like going into the dark abyss, so I totally get exactly what she meant when she said she didn't like dark water. No way would someone who's terrified by dark water would throw herself in the ocean.
but she was not so terrified to avoid boating trips. It was an accident, she tripped trying to tie the dinghy. She fell into the water already unconscious. Still, Robert Wagner, did not tell all. Maybe he feels guilty that he didnt look for her any more
You don’t know what happened you weren’t there. Natalia Woods is dead. Leave her to R.I.P. No evidence anyone pushed her. 💙
@@brittalbach416 If she was that afraid of water, she would not have bent over to tie the dingy..I mean what reason did she have to tie the dingy?
@@Orangecat693 that is what I am saying. The dinghy was banging against the boat, it was said. And Natalie had had a few drinks. It was claimed that she slipped, hit her head and was already unconscious when she fell into the water. On the other hand, people out there on other boats claimed to have heard s.o. scream for help but didnt believe. On such boats the engines are noisy and the music and the laughter do the rest
Tabby Cat.... Would you go out in a boat in the ocean, lake or pond?
I don't believe Natalie got into the dingy< Scared of him, scared of dark water. Robert Wagner covered up the circumstances that led to her unbelievable death. He didn't call for help right away then has the gall to seem devastated with the sudden news. So sad
totally agree. as someone who struggles with the same fear, no way NO WAY would I ever get into a rocky dingy in the middle of the night... ever. the thought of her floating in that water is terrifying to me, to think about... no way did she get into that dingy by herself. 100%.
Insightful, just want to add he’s a trained actor who can be someone or something he’s not, like innocent.
Also, Wagner didn’t go identify her body; the Boat Captain did. His account made sense, and was partially corroborated when the two witnesses came forward many years later and they placed/saw both Wagner and Wood on the back of the boat, just as the Captain said…and then it went silent. Their fighting stopped abruptly. And given that earlier, she ask the Captain to take her over to Avalon, why in the world would she go there alone, late at night, and had been drinking? That was a stupid fabrication on Wagner’s part. He’s guilty as sin.
@@bliss4383 100% right, Robert Wagner's version of events on the boat that night simply isn't credible, and his conduct since his wife's death - including refusing to submit to police interviews - strongly suggests guilt.
I think after 9 years Natalie was heartily sick of Wagner's controlling ways and jealous rages like embarrassing her in front of her co-star, Oscar-winner Christopher Walken. I believe she had made comments to RJ about divorce, and he wasn't going to let her leave the marriage alive. It's the classic 'If I can't have you, no one else can'.
Poor Natalie made the mistake so many abuse victims make, she didn't get herself away to a safe location before leaving/threatening to leave him. He was then able to stop her rejecting him, by inflicting the cruellest death imaginable on her. The bruises on her face and body tell an ugly story. How he could push her into the sea at night, knowing how terrified of dark water she was, abandon her to her lonely fate and sit drinking whisky for over an hour before raising the alarm, I do not know. Robert Wagner doesn't have a heart - he has a swinging brick! It's sickening he got away with killing his wife, just because he's a celebrity.
Wagner wouldn't let the boat Capt search for her body.
He's lying.
She was so beautiful, and a great actor. “Splendor in the Grass” is one of my favorite films … she was mesmerizing with those dark brown eyes. I have never believed her death was an accident. Something’s been rotten in Denmark for decades since her “accidental” drowning demise.
This property is condemned is my favorite movie of hers!
@@dawnbailey824yes she plays a very good part in that film . Obviously all her films were good . But as you say that film was brilliant. And memorable . So yes I agree with you on that one .
did it happen in Denmark?
also, "Brainstorm", her last film..
@@kenh3344
This was a crime of passion, fueled by alcohol. Sometimes, when people tell their partner that they're going to leave them or the relationship is over, the other one goes berserk.Because of his wealth and celebrity, the police tiptoed around him and basically let him off the hook. Once again proving rich people can beat the legal system.
Walken is a young guy and his career is exploding; he doesn't want to get caught up in a love triangle or scandal that could taint his career.
Yep. I agree 100%
O J was guilty, police must have known him to be very guilty !
@@myvonne6687brak dowodów
Został oczyszczony z zarzutów
A żona utonęła 😢
That’s exactly what happened. I was going to comment but you have said what I wanted to say. Bottom line Wagner done it. Either passion or he was tired of the fighting and didn’t want to go through a divorce. I think that he hit her that night too.
@@JohnDavis-yz9nq - there’s no way she got into a dinghy in the middle of the night in November in her pajamas on her own. That defies logic.
Jealousy and money will rip a relationship to shreds more than anything else. My late husband suspected his wife of seeing someone else and in a state of jealous rage wiretapped their phones. She found out and ended the marriage and he swore he'd never let jealousy affect his life like that again.
I worked with a wiretapper at a phone company and he tapped his teenage daughters' line. No respect for her rights.
It makes me sick how these double standards play out. If the facts were exactly the same and this happened to an ordinary citizen, the man would have been arrested immediately!
but the witnesses initially lied ! So that's Davern's fault !
It’s like you didn’t even watch the video.
It is so clear how it happened and who took part in it. So sad that some people in Hollywood are being protected from getting prosecuted
I remember when this happened & remember telling my parents that Robert Wagner had something to do with it. Anyone who's scared of the water (my mother was also) would never NEVER put themselves in a position especially at night, a stormy night, to secure a dingy or go ashore in her nightgown & socks!! Their fear of the water would prevent that!! Wagner is responsible, he killed her, maybe accidentally but regardless he got away with it
He killed her in a jealous rage.. and he got away with it.
If he did it, how can he face their children? From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@harperstacey9604 they have been brainwashed. She has been painted as the adulterer and she was not around to defend herself. He had pushed Natalie’s sister out of the picture so all they heard were his lies.
@@ninabobina2006 Natalie Wood should have never remarried Robert Wagner. From Ms. Harper Stacey.
@@ninabobina2006 If your wife's sister were accusing you of murdering her, knowing you had nothing to do with her death, wouldn't you push her aside too? I wouldn't hesitate.
@@kevinmalone3210 he killed her 💯
Most telling was A. leaving the scene without identifying the body and B. waiting hours before alerting anyone she was missing while drinking scotch. GUILTY.
Very guilty action.
Please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
@@lastdayschapel7427please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
Good luck proving a guilty verdict on that armchair detective
C. Remaining safely and silently married to Jill for all these years. I wonder what she knows and if she has been ‘bought’.
The moment I heard about her death on the news, I did not believe it was an accident.
Whenever it happens at sea and the partner acts weird it's homicide
I'm in my 70's and remember very well when this happened -- MOST people thought Wagner was guilty! The circumstances were just waaay too suspicious!
There’s no way she went out there on her own. Years ago, I remember watch Turner Classic Movies and they had a sweet tribute to Natalie Wood narrated by Robert Redford and it spoke of their friendship and working together on set. He said something that always stood out to me and that was how he had no clue about Natalie’s deep seated fear of water when he and her were goofing off on the set of Inside Daisy Clover, and he jokingly picked her up and jumped into the water with her and he said she had such a visceral reaction that he had never seen from her before. He had no clue about her fear until that point and said that he never forgot the look of sheer terror on her face. That story is why I will never believe that she went out by herself. I can imagine that they had an argument and Wagner pretended to be calm, lured her out of the cabin by asking her to hold a flashlight or lantern up for him so that he could see well enough to secure the dingy better and that’s when he made his move. I think that would explain why she had put a coat on as she had intended to go outside the cabin, only she hadn’t been going out there to get the dingy and she hadn’t gone alone-at least that’s my theory. I always get chills hearing about the passing boat passengers who claim they heard a man mockingly saying “Oh hold on, we’re coming to get you.” I definitely think it was Wagner and he had lured Natalie to bring the light closer to him while he was trying to tie the dingy but in reality was untying it from the boat and then he either pretended to slip or trip and grab onto her arm (which could explain the bruising) before throwing her overboard, he could’ve done this so that if she survived or anyone came to help he could claim it was simply an accident and his clumsiness was the result of a night of drinking. I think the fact that he waited so long to call the police is extremely damning, I bet he waited so long to give the dingy enough time to float away from the boat so that he could claim she just disappeared and that the injuries on her body could be more easily explained away by struggling in the open water.
That is the best theory and insight I’ve heard. I believe you are 100% correct. You would make a great detective!
That’s exactly what I was thinking !
Excellent theory! It was premeditated, he lured Natalie out to help him tie up the dingy and then made his move. Never wanting lights or a search team shows his guilt.
Best theory I have ever heard and seems on point.
Please sign petition LA Cornor Natalie Wood
What's especially sickening is her children believe her death to be an accident, and that anyone who thinks otherwise is a psycho who wants money, or to spread lies. While I agree that there are some folks out there who want a shock-story, the circumstances related to Natalie's death are just too odd and unsettling for her death to be a simple accident.
why is it sickening if Wagner is their father and they want to believe him instead?
That makes me mad can they not see the truth, I suppose he has won them over sad😢😢
@@enigma8147Because it shows how well he can manipulate people, which doesn't stop.... not even with his own children.
@@TheLauraVEffect Well, if it is sickening how manipulative he is, sure, but I don't find his children's behavior sickening. We clearly hear here a biased representation of the story, clearly one-sided and manipulative itself. Maybe because of this documentary it is so "obvious" that he is the killer, when in reality something else may have happened which is hidden here but is not for his children? I don't know. I do not have any desire to judge his children in this situation as I am assuming they have more information or at least they want to believe otherwise, and I would understand them in both cases.
@@enigma8147 Basic critical thinking skills would have to be lacking to deem him innocent. A person without his social status would have been sent to jail after obtaining all of the tremendous amounts of circumstantial evidence.
RIP
Natalie Wood
(1938-1981)
Robert Wagner: I feel guilty of not being there for her.
Also Robert Wagner: Nah let's leave it for a few hours, maybe she'll turn up.
He killed her, no doubt in my mind.
I saw his left eye twitch when he said the word " guilty."
@@lastdayschapel7427 just something not right about him.
Yep. I dont doubt it either.
Not only Simpson got away with the crime he committed with her wife but also Robert Wagner.
I have always believed that Robert Wagner was responsible for Natalie Wood’s death, and that Christopher Walken and Davern knew the truth, but covered up for Wagner.
Why would they do that?
Because one of the theories about that night is that Natalie caught Chris and Robert in bed.
Supposedly, Natalie was going to leave Robert for Chris, i guess not best pleased about finding them in bed together.
@@gbonkers666
People on shore that night heard screams, sound amplifies over water, and 3 men on the boat heard nothing? Natalie couldn’t swim, feared water. Robert Wagner, Christopher Walken and The Captain know the truth.
My half brother is a celebrity, my mother, a writer/producer/actress in film and tv..from my own personal experience, i must comment I think most celebrities are pretentious, narcissistic, sadistic.. such a pity for the family members and friends! Natalie lost her life 💔
Certainly narcisistic!
What's most scary is his memoir and how callously he talks about her death, presenting himself as innocent, loving and caring. He's a monster who doesn't regret what he did.
The more sociopathic a perpetrator is, the more they try to control the narrative and manipulate their audience by talking about "love" and "heart" and stuff. The title of his memoir disgusts me, just like his voice.
It's pure hypocrisy and 100% dishonest.
Who's your half brother? If you diamond me asking.
Yes charming people can have a dark side.
Totally agree with you
Poor judgement in inviting C. Walken onto the boat. Way too much alcohol.
I've always hated wagner ever since i heard the captains version of events and witnesses. he clearly had no intention of trying to rescue her and just let her drown. a true psychopath with no empathy for his own wife and child R.I.P Natalie.
A Costin
Same here.
Dennis Davern could have defied Wagner and called harbor patrol,so as much as a friend he claimed to be Natalie's friend In the book "goodbye Natalie, goodbye splendour"he failed her too but unlike Wagner,he does feel guilt
@@addiesadler9377 he was essentially kept “captive” in Wagner’s home so that he could meet nor talk with anyone. This man had to identify Natalie’s body that morning because Wagner REFUSED. What a great husband.
@@ninabobina2006 yes and Davern said identifying Natalie's body was very traumatic..he said all he could remember was her eyes.. I guess the morgue attendants didn't bother to try and close them.. Wagner didn't even view her at the funeral home and he had hired a professional makeup artist and hair stylist..I heard she looked great.. but he didn't want to see her.. wonder why..most people want closure that way
@@addiesadler9377 I think he was a coward did not want to cross RJ. His guilt is On going and that is the punishment he lives. Shame RW doesn't have a conscious.
I think that when someone walks out on you like he did you should ever go back even if you still love them let it go, seriously.
Agreed, marrying Wagner a second time was a huge mistake, that literally cost Natalie Wood her life.
100% but it’s even sadder because apparently Natalie told her sister Lana that it was “better to go with the devil you know” when she told her she got back together with Wagner.
@@Lizzie-ve7kt Wow, that really is sad - and chilling. That philosophy wound up costing her her life. I never trusted Robert Wagner, something cruel and ruthless behind his eyes. I think sadly life had taught Natalie to expect abuse from males.
They were tough times for women. When Natalie was 16, she suffered a brutal prolonged rape by Kirk Douglas. He'd lured her to a hotel suite at the Chateau Marmont LA with talk of an audition for a movie role. She emerged hours later, and got into her Mom's car in silence, bloody, bruised and shaking.
It was the Summer of 1955, and there was no question of reporting the vicious rape. Kirk Douglas was a world famous movie star and director at the height of his powers, with his own movie production company. Publicly accusing such a powerful man would have ended Natalie's career, not his.
Things have improved somewhat for women in the decades since, but the Harvey Weinstein scandal makes you wonder quite how much.
The thing that upsets me even more is that Chris Walken didn't speak up. He was there too.
He didn't want to get involved.
I still remember the day the news came out about Natalie Wood’s death. And her husband never escaped the suspicion of her “accidental” death.
I cannot believe a man who claimed to love Natalie so much…would make sure she died in the one way that surely tortured her beyond belief. He used her BIGGEST LIFELONG FEAR against her. That’s just the lowest of the low.
He spoke with police that day for essentially five minutes and then they let him go home because he was “obviously distraught”. He never spoke of it again, not to the police and not to anyone. If he had nothing to hide, why wait 3 hours before calling the shore and the Coast Guard? Why REFUSE to help search, why refuse to speak to the public and the media, or the police, as well as Natalie’s friends and families? He knew Natalie was in that water. The biggest fear of her life since childhood. How could he?? To hear her screams and her begging for help, and then having him just TAUNT her. That’s so cruel and heartless. Does that happen with people like us…everyday average citizens? He never spoke with them again. When Wagner left that dock, he insisted that Dennis Davern identify the body, and from there kept Davern basically a prisoner in Wagner’s home! Lana was the only one asking him questions continuously, and he kicked her out of Natalie’s children’s lives.
When Lana asked Natalie WHY she’d go back to RJ, Natalie’s response was, “sometimes the Devil you know is better than the devil you don’t.” That poor woman.
Yeah I agree. I think it’s obvious her husband had a lot to do with it. I mean listen to his words. He said “us” and “we had to fight to protect it (what they had together)” he said this about their love and I think it’s telling and controlling language. Listen to his words 13:52. Just my thoughts 🤷♀️
It’s said allegedly she had caught him in compromising position with Christoper Walker. Years before the reason they broke up is allegedly because she caught him with his butler, who he wouldn’t let go at her insistence. They say in Hollywood he was bi sexual. I think he made up some crazy excuse about what she saw with his personal butler he wouldn’t let go of and she took him back. It was odd that he had this personal butler, who needs a butler unless you are royalty. . You don’t usually hear about any younger Hollywood guy at that time having a personal butler, he wasn’t royalty, and he allegedly had this unnaturally close relationship with the guy. She had asked him to get rid of him and yet he would never get rid of the guy. He lived with them.
People always assumed he was jealous of Walken and her, but seems like it might have been the other way around. They say she was devastated when she caught him the first time with the butler, because she really loved him. I think that is why she took him back. She loved him so much and wanted to believe the excuses he gave her. I think he may be more closeted because of the times, he knew that would hurt his career so he likely married her as a cover for being gay.
Rock Hudson was gay and he got married to his secretary to try and squash the rumors. She was such a beautiful woman and had such a rough time in Hollywood. They also said she was brutally raped by a famous director and by Kirk Douglas when she was a teenager. She also had a mother that had mental issues.
Her mother had been told by a sort of psychic she would have a tragic accident in water, so Natalie and her mother were afraid of water because of the psychic saying that. She nearly drowned on a set when there was a accident as a child.
@@foxibot Allegedly doesn’t work in a court of law. Things do happen. When people don’t know the answers, they make things up. R.I.P Natalie Woods.💙
Yup, cannot get any lower than this
@@marciajones2993 the story about Wagner and the “butler”, Lana said in her book that that fight between RJ and Natalie did happen and that she had walked in on them. Things started getting violent and Natalie ran out of the house to a neighbor’s. The child of the people that lived there said she did show up there yelling for help and to please let her in, and they did. RJ came looking for her and the neighbors told him she was inside but she said she didn’t want to see him and stayed the night there.
I don’t believe the Wagner and Walken rumor at all, but I don’t think Lana would lie about all of the allegations she made in her book about that marriage. Wagner is a pompous narc.
This woman was so talented so gifted and beautiful. This woman deserves justice.
Any woman deserve justice regardless of hoe she look
Talented or not gifted or not beautiful or not everyone deserves justice!!!!!
I always believed he killed her and used her biggest fear to do it ,she ended up in the water because he did it ,I believe he battered her first then did it
That is exactly how they do it,… use the ultimate vulnerability 😭
I can't imagine this to be ANYTHING else but an alcohol-fueled accidental crime of passion ... and a legacy of horrible cowardice.
I liked Wagner before, but this sordid affair soured everything. RJW's remorse may have been genuine, but refusal to ID Natalie's body, accompany her, ANYTHING is a measure of him as a man. There too many lies that were exposed after the fact. There were no reasons for smaller lies but to cover for the big one. Claim that a woman who was publicly terrified of dark sea water would go to investigate in the middle of the night is as absurd as claiming that someone with severe vertigo would go reach over the edge of a lighthouse to adjust a loose flapping flag.
Yeah I don’t think she did this herself. I think he hit her and while Panicking he pushed her into the sea. It’s so sus.
@Sam Lee How very sad for Natalie
Christopher walken was also on the boat, right? Sometimes people get inspired to pick a target when they are with someone else, like goading each other. What if they both had something to do with it and she lost her life?
You hear about some cruise ships where someone went missing - some were suicidal and others were pushed off it’s scary and he got away with it and at his age it’s sort of too late he will die and take it to the grave. I hope he rots in where the devil lives
The things people in Hollywood get away with is insane!
Robert Blake got away with murdering his wife.
Hush Money
Oj "the black glove doesn't fit" simpson
Yes, the entitlement and hush money is repulsive- it will sadly never change. People / cops / most of society - stupidly obsessed with money and fame.
He’s so arrogant it’s disgusting
Its so obvious that he pushed her into the water and then untied the dinghy himself. Then he came up with the ridiculous story of Natalie leaving the boat in the middle of the night and forced everyone else on board to stick to the script. Robert Wagner may not be punished in this life, but trust he will pay for his actions karmically.
Only God knows the truth.
"We were so in love and we had everything" yet he leaves his wife without seeing the body. That is utterly impossible for a man that loves his wife.
I can understand not wanting to see his wife in that condition but he could have accompanied Dennis Deverne and at least stayed with her until she was sent back to LA.
I sometimes wonder if Natalie had a premonition about how she would die given her fear and aversion towards dark water. Poor Natalie.
her mother took her when she was younger, to a psychic who foretold of her dying in water.
She also had a terrifying incident happen to her on set when she was a child actress. She was walking on a set bridge over water for one of her scenes and the bridge failed and she dropped down into the water and ever since then she had a very justified fear of deep, dark water.
Yes - a gypsy told her mom she would be famous & beware of drowning in water.
First dean then Mineola I would have been terrified if I was next
Christopher Walken surely knows a lot. I can’t believe he hasn’t say anything.
I really think he was asleep or in his cabin where he doesn't actually know.
People on another boat heard them arguing. I don't buy it.
@@addicted367 I agree, Addicted...Walken had to have heard
@@Orangecat693 ... or addicted Walken fell asleep
Prettyfunny, another coward afraid of Wagner.
It's haunting, not just with poor Natalie, but the several strange deaths surrounding the actors in "Rebel Without a Cause"
Exactly!
I know about James Dean and Natalie obviously but who else?
@@missbraindamage Sal Mineo was stabbed to death in the 70s
ROBERT WAGNER AND C. WALKEN KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED THAT NIGHT . R.I.P. NATALIE.
Whenever I think about Wood’s death I’m reminded of that old movie A Kiss Before Dying. In that movie Wagner’s character throws his pregnant girlfriend from the roof of a building & makes it look like an accident. The irony has never been lost on me.
Here's another coincidence concerning a Robert only its Robert Blake. Plays a killer in the movie "In Cold Blood" and then kills his grifrer wife 39 years later and got a way with it. His best role ever! Oscar worthy!
Would love to know Christopher Walken’s side of the story.
”It’s the only evidence of domestic violence investigators have found”.
Well, just that one is pretty big in and of itself.
Could her sister get police evidence of domestic abuse. Robert is guilty because he didn't look for her ASAP, AND She was scared to death of black water and swimming.
how he flinches when he says she slipped is making him a suspect
One thing you can say about Wagner: he's a good actor. If you get what I mean.
Toshay,but what about WAlken....
@@christinejackson950 no, he wasnt involved in her death and didnt know anymore that night than Wagner led him to believe. Im sure he's put the pieces together since though.
yes, more handsome than good actor but he acted well here, yes
he IS NOT(!) a ''good actor'' - he is poor one. And if you look at him ATTENTIVELLY you'll see that he LIES. his face is LYING, his eyes are LYING. he is JUST ANOTHER ''j''... ''r.j.'' or ''o.j.'' - them BOTH ''j'' 's belong to jail (at least)
@@christinejackson950 yes walken??? Guess Hollywood comes first!! 😇😇 Not anymore?? We all know how PR machines work now🧐. Movies, movie stars these days ?? Mean nothing if I feel I want to watch fantasy i.e. movies I will. Unfortunately Hollywood, has become to controversial... Too woke. Will smith episode? I totally lost respect for anything to do with actor's nominations, will smith assaulted a man in front of millions, and was never prosecuted?? How would that work in the general public??? Disgraceful? Money and celebrity above the law??
Yes as someone who was scared of dark water, she never wouldhave gone in a dinghy
Right, and not at night.
she had never operated it other than taking over the wheel in open water, she could never have put it in the water, she had zero interest in stuff like that and always let others handle it.
I have read and watched a lot about this case. In several places they say their first marriage ended because she walked in on Wagner in a compromising position with a man. Speculation is that she may have seen Wagner with Walken or Wagner was jealous of Walken and Wood. Something is fishy here and I hope for her family's sake they resolve this and find the truth. Natalie was a beautiful woman who you felt like you knew. She seemed warm and caring and while glamorous also accessible. I remember the day she was found, and I felt so sad that she was cheated out of many years of life, watching her kids get married, more films, etc. It was heartbreaking and still is upsetting to me all these years later.
I believe this also. And walken has never spoken about it either publicly.
You're right about why she divorced him in 1962. The manager of the Harbor Reef restaurant who thought Walken and RJ might have been flirting, was gay and some thought he was just seeing what he wanted to see. I don't think the two men were flirting with each other.
Makes sence.sense..
Didn't need 2 let her or make her die
We'll never be sure.
wagner was jealous of her and walken, he and walken were not hooking up, walken is not gay.
This is so mad! Charge everyone on the boat for negligence. WOW.
If Wagner told the skipper that he wasn't allowed to put the search lights on after she went missing - that alone speaks volumes.
I agree. When I come home from work at 9pm my husband has the garage driveway lights on for me. 🤔
Yes & why wasn't Gilligan questioned?
See
Ask him why?
He probably didn't want bad publicity and thought Natalie went to the restaurants or hotel. But he was stupid doing that.
From everything I've been hearing all these years I think it's plain to see that he is guilty and yet he's still walking around all these years acting so innocent. I get sick everytime I hear him talk about her.
And yet he raised her (then 12-year-old) daughter by another man as his…..
So what!! He still killed her! @@Quaker-tc8ue
I would like to know if she had hand marks around her neck or broken hyoid bone.
Read Natasha Gregson Wagner’s book, “More Than Love.’
@@austx290
If you weren't there, Robert Wagner, then how can you insist "it was an accident." Wouldn't the correct response be to say I have no idea what happened." ?
Yep and the detectives just took his word for it. Didn’t separate the men and bring them in for questioning once on shore. Anyone else would’ve been a suspect but because he is a celebrity he gets away with celebrity privilege.
Good point.
wagner has been lying for the past 40 years. any other man would have been made accountable but celebrity and money protects people like him.
Yes - they say Kirk Douglas was another
Yes, I agree….that’s EXACTLY what happened & I honestly suspect that’s why he’ll NEVER be held accountable. Major injustice to Natalie & her family but ultimately God will be the judge & that’s something NO ONE can escape.
@@lgempet2869 agree. there will be no escaping god's law👍👍
Exactly.
And it was actually Natalie’s money coz his career isn’t actually illustrious. He’s only “someone “ in the tv screens.
He'll live his life out fully. Never pays the price.
He did it.
Her family should sue him in civil court.
He's the devil.
Walken knew too.
I never believed it was an accident from day one and always thought Robert Wagner was the one that killed her..
Its so crazy that she did an interview saying how afraid she was of dark water and then it ends like that. The witness statements don’t make any sense.
she had recently made a movie in which her character was shown drowned floating face down, inside of a flooded ship though.
He killed her and didn’t pay any price. Such an evil person
I believe this too! I adored her and I guess I would like to see Justice done!!🤨
100% Robert Wagner put her in that dark water to die the death she had always feared. He's an abusive monster who killed his wife in a jealous rage over her flirtation with the younger, sexier Christopher Walken. His story about her going on deck alone in the dark, in her nightclothes, to 'tie up a banging dinghy', then slipping, knocking herself out and falling in the sea, is pure invention.
Neither of the other two men on board that night heard any such 'banging dinghy'. And besides, if a job needed to be done on deck, Natalie would have instructed her employee to do it, not gone up in her nightie and done it herself! No one has confirmed Wagner's explanation, it's a total fairy tale. Witnesses saw the couple's final confrontation on the deck, and bruises on her face and body confirm the ugly truth. A toxic combination of jealous rage, revenge, fear of abandonment and alcohol, combined to fuel his violent and ultimately fatal attack on his petite wife.
After 9 years, the couple's second marriage was on the rocks, and Natalie was talking about divorce. Abuse victims are frequently killed after they leave, or threaten to leave, their abuser. I don't believe this highly suspicious spousal death is any different. That Wagner waited over an hour before he raised the alarm that she was missing from the boat, ludicrously claiming she'd taken the dinghy to shore, alone in the dark, confirms his callous disregard for her safety. I think he wanted her dead because she no longer wanted him - the classic 'If I can't have you, no one else will'.
It's outrageous Robert Wagner was able to intimidate police with his star power and expensive lawyers. Law enforcement should have investigated him as prime suspect in his wife's suspicious death from day one. If they had only done their jobs properly, Natalie might have got the justice she so deserved! #JusticeForNatalie
Unfortunately, he never will pay the price!! Hollywood!! Fans!! Hollywood fans, in this day and age ? Know the PR! Recognise Hollywood is a fantasy 😇 they are just doing their job as actors, many do a great job. But remember it's a job? And the great spin?🤣🤣🤣
Everyone pays for their wrong deeds on earth and on judgement day.
@@Angel-tw3ko eventually, yes
Knowing how afraid Natalie was of water, it surprises me that she was on a yacht that was surrounded by water. But I think actually being IN the water was what she was afraid of
Wagner is 93 years old and Natalie was murdered at age 43. He has lived 50 more years than Natalie. How can he still be walking free 42 years after her death?
No one saw him pull her by her ankles and roll her unconscious body into the freezing ocean ~ so? Months before that trip to Catalina, she told him she was going to divorce him a second time so this was intentional homicide, 1981 Thanksgiving weekend was the weekend Natalie had to die. He was afraid his bisexuality would finally be known by everyone. After marrying him in December 1957 in Arizona, she "kicked" him out of the house for which she paid in autumn 1961, divorce was finalized in 1962. The cause of the divorce was she awoke in the middle of the night only to walk in on him having sex with his British gay butler, David Cavendish. It's difficult to believe she remarried him, telling, when asked by her sister Lana, the reason was, "It's better to be with the devil you know than others you dont know." I've been told he has been protected and I ask, by whom? Who would protect this arrogant, bisexual lying murderer? He had been seeing his current wife, Jill Oppenheimer (St John, for movies) for months if not years. Their first "official" date, 1982 Valentines Day, was about 2 1/2 months after "the love of his life" died. Prior to being elected, the newest LA County District Attorney pledged to convene a grand jury to discover the evidence to bring him to trial. I've called his office, speaking to one of his assistants but haven't had a call returned.
In 2018, Robert Wagner was named a person of interest in the ongoing investigation into Wood's death. Currently, nothing has been done.
If he cared he would of search frantically the minute she was gone! Knowing how scared she was of the water! Who sits and drinks?It’s sounds like a cover up!
Sounds as if he was toasting himself and her disappearance.
Well, all of them toasted then because they all knew at that point she was missing and did nothing
I think he pushed her in in a drunken rage. It must be a terrible burden to live with, but he’s an actor.
A burden how long ago did this happen and now reporter could uncover the real story. Don’t think so. Hollywood covered it up.
@@jonkline709
Conspiracy theorist that didn't make any sense.
It must have been a terrible death. And he is still alive and never had to accept the punishment he deserves.
I thought the same, but where is the dinghy? He said that the dinghy was also gone?
Right?
Robert Wagner definitely had something to do with Natalie Wood's death.
It was not accidental.
Wood's intense fear of the water makes all possible theories of an accidental drowning unlikely.
Wagner's immediate action to corroborate all stories points to a cover up.
Wagner's lying about having had a fight with Wood shows deception.
I think Walken and the captain felt extremely pressured by Wagner to go along with one story.
Kudos to the captain for eventually speaking out despite his making a profit from telling the truth.
Walken seems like he just wanted to avoid getting involved.
Walken likely witnessed the fighting between Wagner & Wood but he probably did not see how Wood actually ended up in the water so decided to stay out of it.
Shame that Wagner was never held accountable.
Fact that Wagner refuses to speak with investigators now speaks volumes.
Lies, lies, lies!!!
He was angry and hit her, she fell into the water.
Your wife is 'missing' and you break open a bottle of Scotch and don't call for help???? Wow.
Pieces of my heart... Right. 💔
So if that is the scenario then he would have untied the dinghy to let it loose to make it appear she could have taken off in it?
that captain is inconsistent. i remember him going on tv years ago, and saying that after she went overboard, he wanted to help her, but wagner told him, "just leave her." that was one of the things that i always remembered from that account; it had really stood out to me.
and why would the witness just now come out 30yrs later?
@Sam Lee why don’t you get a life ? Robert Wagner would’ve been the last person in the world to harm her.
Sunny DAze Don’t be so sure about that. She had a dozen fresh bruises on her body per the coroners report
Alcohol played a part with him..
@@sunnydaze2359 TROLL BS
He is totally inconsistent and unreliable and motivated any which way the wind blows for money I think.
To me, there IS something very unsettling about Chris Walken..I just don't know what to think. In those good old Hollywood days Celebrities were propped up on pedestals no matter the condition. Remember Dean Martin always had a rock glass in his hand. When I was 8 yrs old I was watching him on black and white television, I thought " oh THAT'S what adults do when they have a problem. They have a drink and they sit there and figure it out."
I have always liked Chris Walken veeery much😍❤️💎
He knows what happened.
@@c.joyceb.8991 He does but feels it isnt his best interesr. Unless Wagner or Walker have a dearhbed come to Jesus confession the truth will never come out.
Natalie Wood will forever haunt me. To be THAT afraid of water, shes absolutely NOT going out on a dinghy in the dark. No way dude.
She was so beautiful!
8:50 yes she's was
Naturally beauty
I truly believe that alcohol played a huge part in what happened this night.
most murders in usa occur under influence of alcohol.
100%
Oh yes
That’s why having alcohol or a mini bar on a boat is scary to me too many people have drowned due to alcohol related deaths
Alcohol and drugs drives people crazy
This case has always been in the back of my mind since it happened. I always wanted to know how much Walken knew.
I do want to ask one sincere question . Who isn't afraid of dark deep water ??
Good point. We'd probably all be scared if we ended up in it!
Really. Ask anyone in the Navy as they look over the side of their ship.
I am petrified of water especially sea water. I would have NEVER got into a dingy into the darkness of the night or even daylight)). I can't hardly breath just thinking about it. So I absolutely don't think Natalie Wood would have ever gotten into the dingy...I just can't grasp her doing that. I do believe that Robert Wagner is his guilty as guilty could be. And they I hope they find it out. Rip Natalie Woods
the only possible way they can learn more about what happened is if Wagner confesses. All clues have been long investigated.
I was gonna write the same thing. I am terrified of the sea. No freaking way she got on a dingy by herself having staff who could take her anywhere she wanted
jones no not all!!!
@@FreedomofSpeech865 Same here. No way she did that. In her nightgown. In the rain. Please
Her poor sister...horrible to have to carry such injustice all your life..
It's one of those cases that unfortunately will never get solved she was definitely murdered though. 🇬🇧