Right, and I don't believe she was gonna leave her husband either. Not for one minute! She's a lying hypocrite. It would've been a no brainer for me. Anna was a beautiful woman. With no BS baggage, drama, or ultimatums. The other gal wasn't even near Anna's league. This guy was a idiot.
I can't feel sorry for a woman who moves her boyfriend into the home she shares with her husband. The only innocent party here was Anna. Too bad she was used by a pair of misfits.
I was in relationship, I travel to u.s. and he saying stay there and he would marry me but he have narcisstic behavior and i tell myself nah something wrong with him.. so i leave then he call me and break up so i say okay.. then 1year after he marry someone.. i realize he was playing me.. you could imagine that i stay and ruin my visa.. smh.. i glad that i come home when i realize something was wrong
Imagine going to Walmart on your wedding day and waiting while he buys your wedding ring, then after wedding plans fall through going through a McDonald's drive-thru in your wedding dress ... unbelievable.
5:24 Why he didn't ask her for the money? I hope he rots in jail, Michele your life would be miserable, you pulled the trigger, because you pressured him! 09-10-2024
How anyone could consider him charismatic or charming is completely beyond me. He had absolutely nothing endearing about him. A stocky cold psychopath! 😮
I know they said “Portland” in the story, but the area looks rural as hell. Those people/women don’t see interesting individuals their entire lives, so anyone who’s sliiiiightly different may appear as “charming” or as standing out.
Wayyyy too many terrible people in the military whose behavior disturbingly goes unchecked and ignored simply because of their military background. Unfortunately, the military and police departments draw these very types of people, and despite the higher ups of these entities KNOWING this, they still have a weak AF screening process…if you can even really call it that.
War heros leave many people dead, usually in wars they know nothing about and started for no reason! Soldiers rape and leave many babies behind! I know that governments gave in 60s and 70s some crap, don’t know name to make soldiers more aggressive even lethal. It happens all over and I don’t know to what point, must have increased throughout decades and centuries! Sorry, had to say this. Be Well
@@rhondadavis1483me too ugh heartbreaking 💔 what a shameful American the dude is. She came here for a better life and she got wedding day mcd’s 💔 shameful 😢
She never thought that she would enconter the Babba-Yagah/Boogie-man at the other side of the world. Would have been better if she gave attention to her good-angel giving her a signal when she end up in the wrong city first time in the US, but the allure of US citizenship, override it even on the twisted 'wedding-day' being taken to McDonald's in the wedding gown. He deserves Gulag
It’s hilarious how Michelle thinks that she can give any ultimatum when she is still married herself. I don’t believe that she didn’t know what was gonna happen. And I don’t understand why he couldn’t just send Anna home. There was no reason that she needed to die. Michelle really didn’t think maybe Will is lying to us both and I should have a conversation with her to find out if he’s truly tried to break it off with her or not. the fact that she sent her a message wanting to share will that’s so desperate.
Yep! They are both garbage people. The only victims in this situation were Anna and Michelle’s husband. I’ve seen this story done by another news outlet and Michelle was twisted and manipulative. She should have to pay for her actions in some way, because she has no conscience and won’t ever feel anything but contempt for the actual victims in this sad situation.
She was complicit and masterminded the whole thing. The guy said he would break up with the girl but Michelle said it wasn't good enough. I personally knew a guy in their circle and he told me all about it right after it happened. He even had to testify and give statements. I had even briefly met will when he was a bouncer at the peacock and before he started driving taxi. I had left Corvallis in 2015 but I likely would have been mixed up in that stuff if I hadn't because we all would have known each other in taxi circles. But the way I understand the story is that Michelle put will up to this and she was complicit after the fact but played all ends against the middle to save her own self from going to prison
@@blueunicornhere Just because you know people in that circle doesn’t mean you know the truth. Rumors fly and stories get twisted and the more people that pass the story along, the more distorted these rumors become. Didn’t you play the game “telephone” as a kid? Did you not learn anything from it?
@@carolinawestern3875Bank is the right word. The Russian lady was looking for Money and the United States of America. Not shallow like American women are
When his friend said that Will would always have women coming up to him and sitting down next to him and start talking with him,i think someone's been smoking the funny stuff 🤣
@@semicharmedlife311came here to say this. The vast majority of sociopaths are VERY “charming”, because they know how to use that charm, weaponize it, draw people in, and it makes people more comfortable & easier to manipulate. And then when they DO do something terrible to someone, you see people refusing to believe it, and victims can tend to have a very hard time being believed, even by people they consider friends & loved ones, because all they’ve seen that person be is “the nice guy”, and that can’t reconcile that with what they’re being told is actually happening. Seen it happen to others, and experienced it, myself, too many times.
A boyhood friend, had zero connection with his best friend's gf? And male friends can only help with a crime if they have a personal conflict with the same target? I can't stand defense lawyers.
‘He deserves better than this, he put his life on the line for 5 years now’, his father unabashedly says while his son brutally murdered a young woman. What about her life?
The part where she had the gall to act like a victim and saying she almost killed herself bec it was “hard”. Somebody died and she had a hand in it. But of course, it’s hard for her bec people assume she’s involved.
That woman 1000000% knew what was happening. I’m not saying she pulled the trigger or did the actual act but she’s guilty about being a part of it. I’d put my life on that!
Whatever, dude. You aren’t a detective , weren’t in the courtroom, and you didn’t see the evidence. If there had been enough, she would be behind bars too. These brief videos are only snapshots of the bigger picture, bro…but hey, if you think you know more than the judge, police officers and detectives, join the circus and become a fortune telling psychic. 🙄
Michelle is just so desperate. Like, move on. You move him into your home with your husband, and he meets someone else and then you do this jealous girlfriend act because he's 'moved on' and then you start making all these demands. He may have made demands of her to leave her husband but come on... You can't demand something from someone when you have your own thing going on. Controlling and jealous. And he's an idiot for getting an innocent person involved in the games and playing people against eachother.
You are very arsh with her but to him you just call him idiot. When he is a murdered and he LIED ALL THE TIME to both - actually, he lied his life off to everyone he has ever put his eyes on.
It must have really fed his ego to be causing this much drams. Women, don't give men the satisfaction of you being so dramatic! Keep your dignity (I'm a woman. Ignore the username).
Alexes, remembering looking for her mom, broke me. My mom as a baby in 1919, remembers missing her sister Beulah 5 who was burned to death in their backyard, from flame from burn barrel
Michell is the reason Anna is dead,if she wasn’t in his life they would be happy together,have her man at home and giving another deadlines,like she is a model of some sort.she should be in jail also.
Chandra, if you think that Anna and Will “would be happy together” if Michelle wasn’t involved, you’re wrong. He was a pathological liar and a sociopathic narcissist before Anna even came along. I can guarantee that they would never have been “happy”….narcissists are toxic, dangerous, evil and are incapable of anything other than destruction.
No ! Michelle and that man were meant to be bc there are both evil. She should have divorced her husband and Anna would’ve find love with someone else. Instead she chose to make stupid ultimatum and that idiot killed that poor woman.
1:44:32 I'm sure the family doesn't want to believe it, but if he served in war to that degree, chances are he is very capable of unaliving someone. Considering his awards and service, he most likely has. Multiple times.
I think those 2 friends enjoy it, and volunteer to go to the other side of the world to do it, as many times as they wanted under the cover of a uniform. It would be great if those far away families knew where they end up, wearing another kind of uniform, and realized that they too had some sort of justice for their loved ones. Sorry not to be explicit, big-broth3r is reading.
I can’t comprehend the enormity of the loss. She stole these women out of their lives, and then played with the minds of the families. Why do people like this guy even exist. The rage I feel knowing he was released from prison after 2 violent rapes. This was made inevitable by that action.
Evil, evil Michelle - she skips easily through the fact that she was/is married. She should be in prison just like her lover. In the end they all lost but the only one who deserves sympathy is poor, sweet Ana.
Final case - that the young woman's body was singled out to be posed in a wheelbarrow at the front of the house like that, revealed motive. The murders were about her. The killer had a personal connection with her, and violent rage against her. It took 11 long years, but Pape and Smith finally got justice - they are behind bars, where they belong. Their families' devotion and refusal to face their crimes, offers some clue to how they became two such dangerously entitled young men. They even felt entitled to commit multiple murders. My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones. Nut finally, the system came good and the killers were incarcerated for life.
Will's an idiot for loving Michelle, while Michelle was playing him and her husband. And now hes behind bars, she got away with being an accessory and decided to just stay with her husband.
Just because he saved someone years and years later doesn’t mean he wasn’t in a jealous rage and killed her. Perhaps the saving of the guy was to relieve the guilt for killing her.
red flags: 1. referring to 6pm as eighteen hundred 2. lying about being in the military (see above for cringe) 3. flying over a girlfriend from russia to stay under your roof 4. demanding the insurance company extend your already overdue payments. girl. you’re in danger.
24 hour time is NOT a military invention, it is just useful. You convey the information without any confusion about AM or PM. Consider different time zones across a globe, not just your small world if that seems confusing to you. Red Flag right there for you.
It is insane how two women will fight for a man that clearly couldn't give a sh*t about being faithful to either one. If I ever found out my man was seeing a side chick I would drop him in a heartbeat. Sadly if Anna had just packed her bags and moved back home the moment Michelle told her the situation she'd still be alive.
Just imagine that her Baaba-Yaga/Boogie-man, lived on the other side of the world, where serial-killers roam free on highways and byways, until a good angel trips them, all because she was under the allure that in the US the grass was greener.
Just because your a war hero and you fake cry when you get released does not make you innocent... and just because your sister and your mommy says your innocent don't make it so...RIP BECKY, VICKY AND JOHN 🙏🙏
It’s crazy how desperate of love some people are. How did Michelle not leave Will when she found out Will has another girlfriend? She even let Anna stay in their house for almost two weeks, probably heard them being intimate and didn’t care enough to leave him.
Ohh damn Michelle...it's tough for you living in scrutiny...think about that girl died by the hand of that same person she dreamt of living a beautiful life with😑
They're guilty. Nobody else had a motive and they couldn't get rid of the girl knowing that the mother and stepfather knew that those two guys were there going on a hike with the daughter. So they had to get rid of the whole family.
It's always amazing when women fight over a dude you'd have to put a paperbag over his head to sleep with! It should've been him they went after, not each other.
Reading these comments, most are negative and most are incredibly critical rather than having any kind of empathy or grace. You think, how can these horrific crimes happen, how can people be so cruel, the roles we as a society play in fostering these situations and people. But then you read the comments, and it becomes less and less of a mystery in some regard. This pertains to a lot of these videos and it's not just this channel either. There's more blame and hate toward survivors, victims, family, all number of innocent people, rather than at the convicted killers. I really hope this is something I've just started to begin noticing rather than a growing trend from terminally online or out-of-touch people. If this specific cross-section of people were to represent society as a whole, or even a large amount, I'd no longer wonder why or how these cases come to be. May all the victims rest in peace, and may all the survivors and those affected find healing.
I’ve had the same thought. Unfortunately the negative comments seem to get the most likes. I think RUclips should do what yahoo does and let us see the downvotes side by side. Not having that info is distorting
3rd story...the 2 boys were on the way to church🙄 but, they went to play video games instead. trying to hard to put a halo on them😇 stupid criminal decisions that ruins the lives of all the families and friends involved😢
After listening to those mothers who lost their children to that monster, I don’t know how anyone can be against capital punishment. How can our justice system be such a failure? This guy raped two women and only did 10 years?!? Absolutely shameful and disgusting
*That Michelle may not have pulled the trigger but she was definitely the “trigger” that got Anna killed. She’s got Anna’s blood on her hands as much as the person who actually shot the victim to death.*
People choose killing instead of divorce for financial gain.But why did he do it?Just because his other gf who was still with her husband gave an ultimatum. Why can't nice people end up with other nice people.That poor girl.RIP
God. There really is nothing like the love a mother has for their child. It absolutely breaks my heart watching footage of mothers putting out flyers for their missing children, begging whoever has them to let them come home... You just know that there is a hole in their soul that will never be filled. Rest In Sweetest Peace 🕊️
The gall of that woman asking Will to choose between her and Anna when she's still married living with her husband. Wtf?? Lol.
IKR just Evil 😠
Right, and I don't believe she was gonna leave her husband either. Not for one minute! She's a lying hypocrite. It would've been a no brainer for me. Anna was a beautiful woman. With no BS baggage, drama, or ultimatums. The other gal wasn't even near Anna's league. This guy was a idiot.
That's what I was thinking
@@carolinawestern3875agree
She knew and she is evil.
I can't feel sorry for a woman who moves her boyfriend into the home she shares with her husband. The only innocent party here was Anna. Too bad she was used by a pair of misfits.
Well, they didn't make it clear if her husband knew she moved in her side dude, so he could be innocent too
Me either. This lady was married. Get a divorce BEFORE you start anything else. It doesn’t matter of husband knows . Anna Is innocent.
I didn’t feel bad for her at all. She was immoral. And I do believe she pressured him to get rid of her. She also didn’t care how.
@@muvah74 wicked attraction.
That sounds ver complicated; prob nothing close to what you have dealt with nor should speak on
The first story is so stupid... just break up with the girl and send her home 😢 she didnt need to die.
Thank You
Exactly what I said
Yup..
I was in relationship, I travel to u.s. and he saying stay there and he would marry me but he have narcisstic behavior and i tell myself nah something wrong with him.. so i leave then he call me and break up so i say okay.. then 1year after he marry someone.. i realize he was playing me.. you could imagine that i stay and ruin my visa.. smh.. i glad that i come home when i realize something was wrong
Omg why would the other woman even appear on camera? She should be mortified to have been in this relationship with this loser to begin with.
Imagine going to Walmart on your wedding day and waiting while he buys your wedding ring, then after wedding plans fall through going through a McDonald's drive-thru in your wedding dress ... unbelievable.
So sad for her.. she believed in love and was senselessly murdered
Not exactly a princess story is it ? She deserved better 😮
Michelle Chavez is deeply disingenuous. When asked why she lied to the police was, "i don't know, I wasn't thinking" Really?!
you were definately thinking enough to lie (Michelle)🤦♀
Oh, she was thinking, all right.
Michelle was no prize. Still with her husband yet giving deadlines to another man. 🤦🏻♀️
The fruit of sin is always bizarre
It was a very nervy thing to do, he allowed it...Strange arrangement they had
Lol
Exactly like what ???
funny how thw woman in every case I hear either gets off scott free or getting less time
Michelle and Will deserved each other. Poor Ana got strung along.
Imagine killing someone you claim to love just to pay a late insurance bill. Unreal
So sick
Makes me want to stay single
@@sherrymanning1116 It’s a helluva lot better than being in a relationship that isn’t healthy.
5:24 Why he didn't ask her for the money? I hope he rots in jail, Michele your life would be miserable, you pulled the trigger, because you pressured him!
09-10-2024
How anyone could consider him charismatic or charming is completely beyond me. He had absolutely nothing endearing about him. A stocky cold psychopath! 😮
You’ve never met him. Narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths can be extremely charismatic and charming.
I know they said “Portland” in the story, but the area looks rural as hell. Those people/women don’t see interesting individuals their entire lives, so anyone who’s sliiiiightly different may appear as “charming” or as standing out.
@@bitteralmonds666you are assuming ppl that live in rural areas never travel the world or live somewhere else? That’s an assumption that isn’t true.
Stocky is being generous 🐷
Did you know him? A photo doesn't show the Charisma of a person.
I don’t know what beautiful Anna saw in that dude. She could’ve done way better.
I guess the expression "love is blind" is real. I don't get it either.
It's giving "meal ticket to America" (green card) vibes.
@@meseknowsbest3144You nailed it. She never got the chance to even get a work permit. I guess she was working under the table.
Precisely my reaction. That guy was a schlub.
Maybe many people in Russia have no standards?
3rd story: Being a war hero doesn't mean you're not a bad dude.
Wayyyy too many terrible people in the military whose behavior disturbingly goes unchecked and ignored simply because of their military background. Unfortunately, the military and police departments draw these very types of people, and despite the higher ups of these entities KNOWING this, they still have a weak AF screening process…if you can even really call it that.
War heros leave many people dead, usually in wars they know nothing about and started for no reason! Soldiers rape and leave many babies behind! I know that governments gave in 60s and 70s some crap, don’t know name to make soldiers more aggressive even lethal. It happens all over and I don’t know to what point, must have increased throughout decades and centuries! Sorry, had to say this. Be Well
Most of the times it means exactly that. A WAR hero is a killer that killed and was not killed himself.
Yea they killed her ,it was very plain to see smh…..
Most serial killers have prior military service
Poor Anna! Her "wedding"... 😭😭
That blurry video of her in her wedding dress in the McDonald’s drive thru😢She deserved so much better
@@betsylaughlin8652yes she did. It broke my heart also. 😢
@@rhondadavis1483me too ugh heartbreaking 💔 what a shameful American the dude is. She came here for a better life and she got wedding day mcd’s 💔 shameful 😢
She never thought that she would enconter the Babba-Yagah/Boogie-man at the other side of the world. Would have been better if she gave attention to her good-angel giving her a signal when she end up in the wrong city first time in the US, but the allure of US citizenship, override it even on the twisted 'wedding-day' being taken to McDonald's in the wedding gown. He deserves Gulag
...yet she chose him😊 ...internet is a bad place for your first ' dates' ... she made poor choice, leaving a good job and a fairly secure home 🎉😮
It’s hilarious how Michelle thinks that she can give any ultimatum when she is still married herself. I don’t believe that she didn’t know what was gonna happen. And I don’t understand why he couldn’t just send Anna home. There was no reason that she needed to die. Michelle really didn’t think maybe Will is lying to us both and I should have a conversation with her to find out if he’s truly tried to break it off with her or not. the fact that she sent her a message wanting to share will that’s so desperate.
She can. But I think she is involved.
@@goongalay Agreed. I think she got away with being an accomplice.
Cheaters mentality and logic ia one of a kind😅
@@AlexisRoark she practically forced the guy to do it. or was a great motivator to do it. either way she was involved.
@@AlexisRoarkk
Michelle wasn't the crazy EX, she was just crazy.
Fundamentaly bad human being. 👍
She should be jailed.
Why the HELL she would be on this show is also evidence of her narcissist crazy.
Sandra’s escape! Wow. She has real guts. 👏😘
100% accurate!
Anyone else not completely convinced that Michelle had nothing to do with her boyfriend killing her rival?
Yep! They are both garbage people. The only victims in this situation were Anna and Michelle’s husband. I’ve seen this story done by another news outlet and Michelle was twisted and manipulative. She should have to pay for her actions in some way, because she has no conscience and won’t ever feel anything but contempt for the actual victims in this sad situation.
I’m sure she had an idea of what happened.
I fully believe she had her hands all in it. Accessory before, during and after the fact.
She was complicit and masterminded the whole thing. The guy said he would break up with the girl but Michelle said it wasn't good enough.
I personally knew a guy in their circle and he told me all about it right after it happened. He even had to testify and give statements.
I had even briefly met will when he was a bouncer at the peacock and before he started driving taxi.
I had left Corvallis in 2015 but I likely would have been mixed up in that stuff if I hadn't because we all would have known each other in taxi circles.
But the way I understand the story is that Michelle put will up to this and she was complicit after the fact but played all ends against the middle to save her own self from going to prison
@@blueunicornhere Just because you know people in that circle doesn’t mean you know the truth. Rumors fly and stories get twisted and the more people that pass the story along, the more distorted these rumors become. Didn’t you play the game “telephone” as a kid? Did you not learn anything from it?
She smiles as she answers all the questions as though she is enjoying the fact that she wasn’t caught
YEP!!
Facts!
Its called dupers delight. She knew. She wanted this lady dead and she is evil.
BINGO.
especially when she talks about wanting Anna to go
After taking one look at him, I would've been on the next flight back to Russia.
😆😆
IKR!? And to have 2 women basically fighting over you… I don’t get it!
Sometimes someone has a very charismatic personality.
American women think like that. That it all has to do with looks, when it really don't. Women from some other countries don't bank it all on that.
@@carolinawestern3875Bank is the right word. The Russian lady was looking for Money and the United States of America. Not shallow like American women are
When his friend said that Will would always have women coming up to him and sitting down next to him and start talking with him,i think someone's been smoking the funny stuff 🤣
😂😂😂
Lol
I bet they thought he was harmless because he looked like a short teddy bear.
No one is "safe".
😂😂😂
His friends are very “charismatic” too 😅 and not very bright. There is no such thing as an American Soldier being stationed in Russia. 🤦🏻♀️
Things must be really bad in the dating scene a 25yrs guy that looks like 40yrs has 2 women basically fighting over him.
Right?!
@@RebeccaSurber-vw5wi And he wasn't even rich.
Can you imagine if he was.
Jeez
Greasy stinky dude, come on Bruh
Right! He looks gross! Perfect match for Michelle though. It's obvious there's something wrong with her coz her husband didn't even want her!
My thoughts exactly lol
Sometimes CHARMING means someone has a hidden scary side.
Will discarded Anna as if she worth nothing.
RIP Anna.
Many of the most adept sociopaths in criminal history are often described as "charming". 👍
Absolutely! Sometimes “charming” means a person has the ability to play to whatever audience is in front of them…
@@semicharmedlife311
Thank you for scientific explanation.
@@semicharmedlife311
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True. psyhopaths are like Oscar winner actors.
@@semicharmedlife311came here to say this.
The vast majority of sociopaths are VERY “charming”, because they know how to use that charm, weaponize it, draw people in, and it makes people more comfortable & easier to manipulate.
And then when they DO do something terrible to someone, you see people refusing to believe it, and victims can tend to have a very hard time being believed, even by people they consider friends & loved ones, because all they’ve seen that person be is “the nice guy”, and that can’t reconcile that with what they’re being told is actually happening.
Seen it happen to others, and experienced it, myself, too many times.
He killed innocent harmless people and deprived their families of them. But when it comes to him; he wanted to avoid the death penalty; what a coward
I'm sure she had arms ;)
@@paranormalbaconghost H was missing, thank you!
A boyhood friend, had zero connection with his best friend's gf? And male friends can only help with a crime if they have a personal conflict with the same target? I can't stand defense lawyers.
I don't care how bad it got for Michelle it was a hell of a lot worse for Anna. RIP Anna you deserved so much better.
He said to the detectives “ I have no reason to lie to you guys “
Thanks pal, that’s some assurance coming from a Pathological liar and Sociopath.
from psychology point of view it exactly means you are lying. an innocent person does not make such a statement at all.
If the universe is just, Michelle should be living a pretty terrible life right now.
‘He deserves better than this, he put his life on the line for 5 years now’, his father unabashedly says while his son brutally murdered a young woman. What about her life?
lol, this guy is mental. he really went on the internet looking for time travel like he's Napoleon Dynamite or something 😂
LMAO
Michelle likes power and control and herself, that's it
Fundamentally bad human being. 👍
Yes!
I literally snorted when the she was asked what she wanted, and she was like “very simple-to be happy”🙄She is so fundamentally disingenuous.
The part where she had the gall to act like a victim and saying she almost killed herself bec it was “hard”. Somebody died and she had a hand in it. But of course, it’s hard for her bec people assume she’s involved.
She knew what he was capable of
So thankful all 4 girls bodies were found. I can’t believe he blamed each victim! Disgusting.
Poor William Reece-it’s miraculous he survived being almost murdrref by all those women and girls. Clearly it was self defense🙄
I think it’s more of a competition for Michelle rather than being in love with Will. I don’t see him as much of a catch.
I love the way they did Michelle dirty with those multiple zoomed in stills of her crazy eyes.
He’s FAR from being a catch don’t see how women were attracted to him smh 🤦♀️
True story there
@@StephRich888 The same thing can be said about Michelle, she's no head turner. They were both made for each other, both are the criminals here.
@@StephRich888, exactly! Like, am I missing something here? Even if he did have charisma, he is not physically attractive.
That woman 1000000% knew what was happening. I’m not saying she pulled the trigger or did the actual act but she’s guilty about being a part of it. I’d put my life on that!
Whatever, dude. You aren’t a detective , weren’t in the courtroom, and you didn’t see the evidence. If there had been enough, she would be behind bars too. These brief videos are only snapshots of the bigger picture, bro…but hey, if you think you know more than the judge, police officers and detectives, join the circus and become a fortune telling psychic. 🙄
Yawn. Tell us you don’t understand how the legal system works without telling us.
You’d put your life on that? Such a batty thing to say
RIP Becky, Vicky&John Sorry you had to go through this.
Chilling when you realise those murderers where teenagers...
He was a Marine…come on, the Marines have standards. Will couldn’t run to the refrigerator.
I was thinking the same. 🤔
How did army guy not see that Will was full of it?
Stationed in Russia? I didn’t know us military have bases in Russia 🤷♂️
@@bennguyen8424 they don’t. Maybe he meant he was conceived in Chernobyl. 🤣
@@bennguyen8424lmao I thought the same thing.
Michelle is just so desperate. Like, move on. You move him into your home with your husband, and he meets someone else and then you do this jealous girlfriend act because he's 'moved on' and then you start making all these demands. He may have made demands of her to leave her husband but come on... You can't demand something from someone when you have your own thing going on. Controlling and jealous. And he's an idiot for getting an innocent person involved in the games and playing people against eachother.
Exactly.to take all that time to do those evil things is just unimaginable 😢
She was in no position to be making those demands. Will should have been the one giving her the ultimatum.
You are very arsh with her but to him you just call him idiot. When he is a murdered and he LIED ALL THE TIME to both - actually, he lied his life off to everyone he has ever put his eyes on.
It must have really fed his ego to be causing this much drams.
Women, don't give men the satisfaction of you being so dramatic! Keep your dignity (I'm a woman. Ignore the username).
Alexes, remembering looking for her mom, broke me. My mom as a baby in 1919, remembers missing her sister Beulah 5 who was burned to death in their backyard, from flame from burn barrel
Dear Lord how awful!!😢 That is so terribly sad!!
Wow that is truly heartbreaking 💔
That’s just terrible! 😢
I am so so sorry! God rest Beulah's precious soul and visit her loved ones and grant you healing of soul and consolation. Lord have mercy. ☦️😞❤️
How utterly devastating. Rest in Peace to little Beaulah. 🖤💐🖤
For the detective and the prosecutor to notice two dots on Will’s head is incredibly observant on their part.
Michell is the reason Anna is dead,if she wasn’t in his life they would be happy together,have her man at home and giving another deadlines,like she is a model of some sort.she should be in jail also.
absolutely! she should be in jail
@@aminaoyakhire something is wrong with you as well.
Chandra, if you think that Anna and Will “would be happy together” if Michelle wasn’t involved, you’re wrong. He was a pathological liar and a sociopathic narcissist before Anna even came along. I can guarantee that they would never have been “happy”….narcissists are toxic, dangerous, evil and are incapable of anything other than destruction.
No ! Michelle and that man were meant to be bc there are both evil. She should have divorced her husband and Anna would’ve find love with someone else. Instead she chose to make stupid ultimatum and that idiot killed that poor woman.
The first story of Anna, she should’ve known God’s first sign to her when she mixed up the cities - GO BACK HOME!
So true 😢
Yessssss 😮
Totally agree, Maine is far better than Oregon and better men too👍
Amen. I had a similar situation happen, but I listened to the sign. So here I am.
But no one actually thinks that way.
Wow. Giving her the ring of another woman. That is dirty
1:44:32 I'm sure the family doesn't want to believe it, but if he served in war to that degree, chances are he is very capable of unaliving someone. Considering his awards and service, he most likely has. Multiple times.
I think those 2 friends enjoy it, and volunteer to go to the other side of the world to do it, as many times as they wanted under the cover of a uniform. It would be great if those far away families knew where they end up, wearing another kind of uniform, and realized that they too had some sort of justice for their loved ones. Sorry not to be explicit, big-broth3r is reading.
The thought of that little baby looking under the bed and table saying "mommy?" broke my heart ☹
I can’t comprehend the enormity of the loss. She stole these women out of their lives, and then played with the minds of the families. Why do people like this guy even exist. The rage I feel knowing he was released from prison after 2 violent rapes. This was made inevitable by that action.
I do like the compilation episodes, but come on 48 Hours, let’s start from the beginning and work our way through the entire series!
Evil, evil Michelle - she skips easily through the fact that she was/is married. She should be in prison just like her lover. In the end they all lost but the only one who deserves sympathy is poor, sweet Ana.
And michele’s husband. What a mess.
Final case - that the young woman's body was singled out to be posed in a wheelbarrow at the front of the house like that, revealed motive. The murders were about her. The killer had a personal connection with her, and violent rage against her.
It took 11 long years, but Pape and Smith finally got justice - they are behind bars, where they belong. Their families' devotion and refusal to face their crimes, offers some clue to how they became two such dangerously entitled young men. They even felt entitled to commit multiple murders.
My heart goes out to the victims' loved ones. Nut finally, the system came good and the killers were incarcerated for life.
This criminal and Michelle are good together a perfect match. Too bad for her, he was caught!
Both fundamentally bad human beings. 👍
Seriously
Will's an idiot for loving Michelle, while Michelle was playing him and her husband. And now hes behind bars, she got away with being an accessory and decided to just stay with her husband.
This Michelle is giving me extreme scary vibes.
I pity Michelle's children, shell be shortly on the lookout for another man...and start the story again
Just because he saved someone years and years later doesn’t mean he wasn’t in a jealous rage and killed her. Perhaps the saving of the guy was to relieve the guilt for killing her.
Not so bright, leaving your trash where you left the body.
red flags:
1. referring to 6pm as eighteen hundred
2. lying about being in the military (see above for cringe)
3. flying over a girlfriend from russia to stay under your roof
4. demanding the insurance company extend your already overdue payments.
girl. you’re in danger.
First, Michel is not a girl. For about 20 years yet 😂Second she demanded and obviously made Anna killed.. and robbed
@@EnglishEllyum huh
What is wrong with using military time? I work in health care, and I think in military time.
24 hour time is NOT a military invention, it is just useful. You convey the information without any confusion about AM or PM. Consider different time zones across a globe, not just your small world if that seems confusing to you. Red Flag right there for you.
i think the indication is that he is pretentious for using that system, trying to look smart. Pretty common among neckbeards. @briankale5977
6 minutes in after upload!! I watch 48 Hours on auto play every day. Cannot get enough!!
Same!
Same and dateline
@@supercellgenius9302 yes. Dateline plays live 24/7 on RUclips too
I am with my people
Michelle wanted the best of both worlds…..boyfriend and husband 😒😒.
not sure he qualified as the “best” 🤢😂
Maybe two losers are better than one! 😂
And Will was something so special that these women were fighting over him? What's wrong with these people.
Blind
Possible citizen ship might be the reason for Anna.
@@LeiaThePrincess1 as some Russian commentator pointed out, very unlikely for a girl from Moscow. There is generally a high standard of life.
Low self esteem
Sure victim blame them most of them were minors with the exception of Anna 🙄
Michele is dangerous! Anna RIP 🕊️🪽😢 peace sweet angel!
It is insane how two women will fight for a man that clearly couldn't give a sh*t about being faithful to either one. If I ever found out my man was seeing a side chick I would drop him in a heartbeat. Sadly if Anna had just packed her bags and moved back home the moment Michelle told her the situation she'd still be alive.
Just imagine that her Baaba-Yaga/Boogie-man, lived on the other side of the world, where serial-killers roam free on highways and byways, until a good angel trips them, all because she was under the allure that in the US the grass was greener.
Michelle is so fake.
She only cried when it was about herself
I do not like her, nor trust her. She is not innocent in all of this!
She loves HERSELF,she’s the type u literally stay tf away from and never open ur life up to.
Just because your a war hero and you fake cry when you get released does not make you innocent... and just because your sister and your mommy says your innocent don't make it so...RIP BECKY, VICKY AND JOHN 🙏🙏
It’s crazy how desperate of love some people are. How did Michelle not leave Will when she found out Will has another girlfriend? She even let Anna stay in their house for almost two weeks, probably heard them being intimate and didn’t care enough to leave him.
Michelle was cheating on her husband. She can’t leave him caz she was doing the same thing as he was doing.
RIP Ana
Ohh damn Michelle...it's tough for you living in scrutiny...think about that girl died by the hand of that same person she dreamt of living a beautiful life with😑
When two narcissistics meet and hook up. I know that term is thrown around and Way over used. However, Michelle and Will are definitely narcissists.
This woman(Michelle) seems a bit shady, and a bit cold it seems. But they both had motive, although I cant imagine killing someone, over someone.....😮
Will is extremely concerned about his car insurance. Like, life or death levels of concern. 🤔
But not concerned enough to go out and get a job!
Too many replays… we need more of the new episodes 🤔
They're guilty. Nobody else had a motive and they couldn't get rid of the girl knowing that the mother and stepfather knew that those two guys were there going on a hike with the daughter. So they had to get rid of the whole family.
It's always amazing when women fight over a dude you'd have to put a paperbag over his head to sleep with! It should've been him they went after, not each other.
😂
Michelle is so full of herself!!
Hes walking around with blood on his bald head omg
The dating pool in Oregon must be incredibly slim…
And what's your state/country?
@@kittygoesWOOF This happened in the state of Oregon USA.
@@donnaengel6413 ...... I asked what your state or country is, not where the case took place.
Stop asking people watching a true crime marathon where they live, lol
@@kittygoesWOOF Why would you need to know that? I thought you were asking where the crime took place.
Being played by a man is beyond traumatic.
poor Anna R.I.P.
That first story was messy
Reading these comments, most are negative and most are incredibly critical rather than having any kind of empathy or grace. You think, how can these horrific crimes happen, how can people be so cruel, the roles we as a society play in fostering these situations and people. But then you read the comments, and it becomes less and less of a mystery in some regard.
This pertains to a lot of these videos and it's not just this channel either. There's more blame and hate toward survivors, victims, family, all number of innocent people, rather than at the convicted killers. I really hope this is something I've just started to begin noticing rather than a growing trend from terminally online or out-of-touch people. If this specific cross-section of people were to represent society as a whole, or even a large amount, I'd no longer wonder why or how these cases come to be.
May all the victims rest in peace, and may all the survivors and those affected find healing.
I’ve had the same thought. Unfortunately the negative comments seem to get the most likes. I think RUclips should do what yahoo does and let us see the downvotes side by side. Not having that info is distorting
And dollars to donuts 🍩 if she wasn’t involved she at the very least knew… and who kills somebody and leaves all that garbage?
Forgiveness is not to live in a cage of rage… that statement is so true and so hard to swallow!
“My son couldn’t have killed anyone, he’s in the military..” 😶
That first episode … these people are crazy losers.
Anna was beautiful.
He's crazy not choosing her
3rd story...the 2 boys were on the way to church🙄 but, they went to play video games instead. trying to hard to put a halo on them😇 stupid criminal decisions that ruins the lives of all the families and friends involved😢
Poor Anna 😢
After listening to those mothers who lost their children to that monster, I don’t know how anyone can be against capital punishment. How can our justice system be such a failure? This guy raped two women and only did 10 years?!? Absolutely shameful and disgusting
Both Michelle and the guy are evil monsters. Anna could have lived if she remained in Russia. God rest her soul😢😢😢😢
*That Michelle may not have pulled the trigger but she was definitely the “trigger” that got Anna killed. She’s got Anna’s blood on her hands as much as the person who actually shot the victim to death.*
Happy Sabbath day everyone ❤
109 times, keep it up itll be 110.
Its only sabbath day to heretics. SDA? Gal1:8
I seen this episode already.why they kept repeating it?
It’s a compilation video
People choose killing instead of divorce for financial gain.But why did he do it?Just because his other gf who was still with her husband gave an ultimatum.
Why can't nice people end up with other nice people.That poor girl.RIP
I had already wachted these three episodes, but I'm glad I watched this Marathon because 48 Hours is Awesome!
I honestly believe that once someone has been convicted of rape , they shouldn't be allowed to walk free ever.
Oh a new binge episode!😄
The second story is heartbreaking. Especially of the little girl that kept looking for her mom even under the bed.
Amazing who women will fight over.
God. There really is nothing like the love a mother has for their child. It absolutely breaks my heart watching footage of mothers putting out flyers for their missing children, begging whoever has them to let them come home... You just know that there is a hole in their soul that will never be filled. Rest In Sweetest Peace 🕊️
This is a good reason to never even give a man any attention if he is with another woman.
Why pay taxes when they don't protect us
He believes in time travel and he buys children's toys for himself. What?
And he left trash with her?
These two guys are guilty 100% no doubt about it.
The story about Anna was covered on Mr.Ballens channel. As soon as I seen the KFC receipt, I knew
It’s a shame that people don’t understand that fighting in Afghanistan and being obsessed with someone, and killing them are not the same things.
Laura's mother is one great lady❤
Will's best friend: No he's not necessarily a player.
Will: literally played two women to death.