I’ve studied this case for years, and this documentary does give more insight. Thank you to the Franks and Loeb for the photos and the letters. I hope Bobby is at peace and that his death will continue to help solve others.
Two spoiled rich kids who thought they were above the law and because of their wealth thought they were safe...they turned out to be pretty stupid considering how VERY smart they thought they were...
There a HUGE difference between being smart & being full of hubris. The fact is they were EXTREMELY smart. You don’t get into ANY college let alone one like U of C at 14 and not be genius level smart. Hubris on the other hand while a condition that you’ll find among people of high intelligence it had nothing to do with being smart. They made things more difficult than it needed to be and were arrogant about it. That’s what got them caught not any lack of intelligence.
Pure evil. That's your explanation. It takes all shapes, and forms, but it is insidious, in this world. And, if they hadn't murdered one of their own, they could have picked some random child, murdered him, and walked away. They probably would've become serial killers. Really scary.
What a psychopath to feed a mother bird and her babies only to return the next day to kill them all(and to also dig up the tree that housed them). His parents failed massively bringing up their son to become such a monster 😬
@TaurusMoon-hu3pd while I 100% agree with that to an extent I believes these two men were bought up right from birth with a huge sense of entitlement and superiority that gave them an arrogance beyond belief which resulted in their lack of empathy towards others
@rdred8693 AIPAC would have been proud of them especially in the way (true to their racial traditions) they both tried to sheet home the responsibility to the other party.
The home of Bobby Franks that is shown, is how it looks now. It is condos, 4 of them I think. It is a beautiful structure. The fence of the Loeb's home is still there. The garage that Leopold said his car was in, is still there. However, the Loeb and Leopold homes have been torn down. With some research, you can see pictures of their homes. Loeb had the BIGGEST and he was the richest.
My stepfather knew Bobby Franks. He and his father brought turkey to the The Chicago Home for Jewish Orphans every Thanksgiving. My stepfather lived at the orphan home at that time.
Darrow was ahead of his time - the original Affluenza Defense, the first Abuse Excuse . Truly an innovative advocate. I’ve always found it funny (if anything about this case can actually be considered funny) that after all of Darrow’s soaring oratory, the judge actually ruled, “Yeah, I just think they’re too young to be executed. I’m gonna go with age.”
It always amazes me at how you have people who are extremely intelligent and seemingly have everything and think they can get away with a crime like this. Thankfully hubris always overrides intelligence. They made things way more difficult & overly complicated than it needed to be. That hubris also led them to not get rid of the key evidence. They could’ve easily overcome the glasses but keeping the typewriter & letter was their nail in their coffins.
Arrogance & Entitlement 1920s to 2020s and its still the same. Look at what is happening [on a larger scale] in Palestine this minute. And the whole world sits and watches.
I found a dumpy old dusty book from the 1960s on this case in a tiny Oklahoma rural library in 1980 when I was 9 yrs old, stuck there visiting great-grandparents during a summer break from school. I became absolutely obsessed with the case. Fast-forward 10 yrs, I'm a freshman in college. This case, incredibly, came up in conversation the 1st time my new boyfriend & I had dinner w/his mom & her (lawyer) husband. The step-dad made us stop at Blockbuster on the way back from dinner, where he rented a VCR and the movie 'Compulsion,' which he made us watch immediately in their hotel room with his extensive commentary on Clarence Darrow's closing argument. Crazy how this story captivates so many to the point that it has had a serious impact on our lives.
Leopold really was a sick young man. Anyone who discover a nest of rare birds, care for them lovingly, then return the next day and kill them, thats the epitome of warped thinking. Soulless.
I have just watched the two killers, Leopoldo and Loeb murder of Bobby Franks. Well after watching this case of 1924 the story is so similar to the Lyle and Erik case where they murdered their parents in1989. Jose and Kitty Menendez. Amazing that the cases are so similar of what happened after they were sentenced life in prison, and not hanged. Similarities that were so joined together. Watch this programme and you will see how the two cases came together after they were sentenced! 😮
It was a good documentary, but please do not smile and sound giddy when describing the terrible nature of murderers, and the horrific death of a child. That was a little disturbing, to have some of the presenters sound so happy about this case.
I remember back in the 1960s When I Was A Just A Kid, Watching The Movie 🍿, Compultion (1960) . That's When I First Also Heard about The Evil Murder of Bobby Franks. What a Terrible Thing to do To a Child. As I Felt Then, As I Still Feel Now, I Think Both Leopold and Loeb Should've Definitely Received The Death Penalty For What They Did To Poor Bobby Franks. At least Richard Loeb Was Paid For His Part in The Murder, Very Violently. They Were Nothing But 2 Cold Hearted Lowlife Child Murders. R.I.P. Robert Franks 🙏🏻🌹 God Bless/Rest His Soul. 👍🏻
Charlevoix rang a bell. It’s where Jon Benet Ramsey’s family were going to originally go the morning JBR was found dead. Turns out the Loeb estate and the Ramsey one are an eight minute drive from each other.
Charlevoix, is a BEAUTIFUL place. Some of the Loeb family members still live there. That section is not open to the public. Weddings and other events are still held in other areas of the estate.
@ They had some kind of second home in Charlevoix. This video mentions it in the first few minutes. ruclips.net/video/_VS0yEC1bl4/видео.htmlsi=QejyONT10px87MJH It was bought by John and Patsy, then sold by Patsy (not sure why John was left out) after JBRs death.
What's interesting is in watching two docs on this film there's over 5 angry posts exclaiming how they would have not gotten the same defense. There's no anger that they might have been kyllers only that they wouldn't have gotten the same defense. I think you're just race-bayting.
Everyone always comments about the way they look, but their attorneys tell them not to react and to stare straight ahead. The only time you see emotion is when they're on the witness stand or standing before the judge.
That little boy was viciously r@ped, how Clarence Darrow managed to keep the physical evidence of that out of Court is beyond me. I don't believe this "Perfect Murder" theory, l think it was a clumsy stupid crime. R.l.P. Bobby 🌹
No. Bobby Franks was not sexually assaulted. The coroner determined that. This was not a sex killing. Franks was just unlucky. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and Loeb knew him.
Fascinating & well-made documentary. I'd heard the names Leopold & Loeb before but don't remember how - maybe a song... I didn't know anything about this story. Before their time, in the worst possible way.
Michigander here, my grandpa was friends with a butler's son who worked for the Loeb family, who had nothing but nice things to say about the entire family and Master Richard, going as far to say he left this earth unconvinced that Loeb was involved in this horrific unnecessary crime.
They said they didn’t know until that day of the murder who they were going to kill and yet they had typed a letter the day before with the boys address on it
This documentary focusses more on these two disgusting pigs than the poor baby that was murdered and his family. And don’t believe for a moment Leopold died of a “heart attack”! How can someone die of a heart attack if they don’t have one?
Is this the first known case of which would be known as, "The OJ defense" (no matter what you do (with fame, $, and arrogance), you can buy your way out?
I think the erroneous, subconscious assumption is deeply rooted in our culture: 'My pleasure is more important than your wellbeing.' After all the bravado, they're common, conscienceless narcissists. 'Since I'm superior, the rules don't apply to me.' Wonder, how many of our social problems originate with these people?
The narrator said it all, if they were poor, they would have hung! Ain't no "Parole" later, once you've been hung! Justice is blind, but it can aparently count! Count $$$!
As an internet detective, hearing that someone's glasses were in a remote area that HE knew, WOULD make him a suspect, not exclude him. It's an area he was obviously familiar with. AND you live a baseballs throw from his house?
As they mentioned, if you were paying attention, the glasses could’ve easily been explained away. The glasses in of themselves didn’t point to guilt; they only led to someone that needed to be investigated and/or questioned. It was the typewriter, the rental car, the letter & their story that got them. If they had gotten rid of the typewriter and not tried to make things difficult by renting a car they would’ve gotten away with it because at the end of the day the glasses didn’t mean a whole lot, at least not as much as the other evidence. Also, being a baseballs throw away didn’t mean a whole lot here either. Not only am I from Chicago but I was born at the university hospital where they were in school. I went to high school a few blocks away from where they lived. The Kenwood/ Hyde Park neighborhood are right next to Bronzville which had a COMPLETELY different class of people living there even in 1924. They also live “a baseballs throw” away.
@@kenyattaclay7666 The eye glasses were the beginning of their investigation. Only 3 were made with a certain type of of hindge. One belonged to a woman, the other belonged to a man that was out of town and the other pair belonged to Leopold. I am from Chicago also and have heard about and researched this case.
@ as I said & they mentioned in the documentary, at the end of the day the glasses weren’t that important or at least as Maya’s people want to put on them. If you have researched this case as you say you have then you know that he was out there all the time. Yes they were rare because of the hinge. Yes it put him on the list of people to talk to but just like the other two people because of his activities out in that area that evidence would’ve led to nowhere had they not made so many other mistakes. The typewriter is the most important pice of evidence because that is what they used to type the note. The typewriter, NOT the glasses is the proverbial smoking gun.
@ also, if you have studied this like you say you have then you’d also know they were ready to charge one of Frank’s teachers for the murder. It wasn’t until they found the letter that they became suspicious of them because the glasses had no real evidentiary value because of his leading bird watching groups at that spot.
I'm looking at this video 📹 about this criminal case in May 15th , 1921 in Chicago, Illinois and those murderous thugs should be imprisonment for the rest of their lives without parole or pardon 😳.
It 13:37. The male commentator refers to the nudity of the victim, inspiring the idea that the person was gay and a predator… Most people do not know that 97% of predators are self identified as heterosexual, and are usually people who know the victim. In other words, predators are generally heterosexual and many times the sex of the victim is unimportant to them. This comment was inappropriate to say the least.
Whatever the sex of the victim, that is what a predator basically does - hunts the victim. Leopold and Loeb also happened to be in a gay relationship. I didn't find it inappropriate at all.
Those were the ideas of that time, doesn't mean we have to agree with it. But it seems we haven't learned a bit from those times accusing people of being predators who don't present as a hetero normative. That is what bothers me personally.
It's strange that kidnap doesn't get spelled the way it should be, namely kidnab. It maybe does not come across as 'harsh' enough that way. But it WOULD be the logical like that.
6 months of planning and that was the best they could do eh? A weird mess fell apart in like one day? It’s not funny and I’m not trying to be flippant, their crime was horrible. It’s just wild that these two were supposed to be geniuses but they were just so… dumb.
For me is not a surprised that Leopold had been m*lested. Back then predators generally went unpunished because the victims were too afraid to say anything or if they did they wouldn’t be believed. Plus, it was such a taboo subject. a child could not accuse an adult of having taken advantage of them
48:30 come on now, if you look at Robbie Franks' school records he most certainly WAS NOT 'doing his homework' and most certainly WAS 'worrying his mother.' He was a little Loeb in the making. Which of course doesn't mean he deserved to be murd*red but certainly does shed light on how these little rich boys were being 'raised' in that community.
I think you said the exact same thing on another video. Not everyone is out here trying to steal stuff from another video. If you don't like it, move along and don't watch. Stick with the American Experience videos than.
I’ve studied this case for years, and this documentary does give more insight. Thank you to the Franks and Loeb for the photos and the letters. I hope Bobby is at peace and that his death will continue to help solve others.
Gosh, such a story!
What frustrates me most is that none of them had ever expressed any shade of guilt or remorse.
So inhuman!
Leopold, felt some remorse. He wrote a book, 99 years plus life, he express some regrets.
@@Imissyoulou ….. no, Leopold wanted parole but he never felt anything, much less remorse.
@@Jasper7182009 He stated in the book, that he was ashamed of what happened and how he hurt all of the families involved.
gladly your generation is first learning this, keeps history alive
@@Imissyoulouregretted being caught, or?
Another high quality documentary! Thank you PBS!
This was very well put together little documentary. I really found it interesting❤
we are glad you approve hun
RIP Bobby Franks and to all his family. ❤
Murder creates lasting pain, doesn’t it?
He should never have been allowed to leave prison!!!
No justice for the Frank's family😢
Two spoiled rich kids who thought they were above the law and because of their wealth thought they were safe...they turned out to be pretty stupid considering how VERY smart they thought they were...
There a HUGE difference between being smart & being full of hubris. The fact is they were EXTREMELY smart. You don’t get into ANY college let alone one like U of C at 14 and not be genius level smart.
Hubris on the other hand while a condition that you’ll find among people of high intelligence it had nothing to do with being smart. They made things more difficult than it needed to be and were arrogant about it. That’s what got them caught not any lack of intelligence.
I thought exactly that.
@@kenyattaclay7666awkward back door rebuttal? I’m intrigued.
You mean the difference between being stupid and dumb?
Need more from you
@@kenyattaclay7666In my experience very academically gifted people don't have much common sense
HI IQ PEOPLE USUALLY LACK WISDOM BECAUSE THEY ARE SO ARROGANT.
I wasn't signed into RUclips when I came across this channel. I had a very hard time finding it. I'm so thankful I did
ok
Its because it goes against the narrative of today..
Pure evil. That's your explanation. It takes all shapes, and forms, but it is insidious, in this world. And, if they hadn't murdered one of their own, they could have picked some random child, murdered him, and walked away. They probably would've become serial killers. Really scary.
Good point. They were sociopaths.
@@rongenung
Spoilt, arrogant and entitled.
Isn't it odd they picked a child because they knew a man would overpower them
What a psychopath to feed a mother bird and her babies only to return the next day to kill them all(and to also dig up the tree that housed them). His parents failed massively bringing up their son to become such a monster 😬
He was born that way. He had a massive bird display that was in the a history museum. I think it is in the Museum of Science and Industry.
I understand your emotion there, Littlemouse884. But they were born psychopaths. Their brains are wired this way from birth.
@@Imissyoulou💯agree. Some are born wired wrong.
@TaurusMoon-hu3pd while I 100% agree with that to an extent I believes these two men were bought up right from birth with a huge sense of entitlement and superiority that gave them an arrogance beyond belief which resulted in their lack of empathy towards others
Psychopath without conscience
The diligence of the man at the eyeglass company was astounding.
It was mandatory that those 2 were caught.
Two self-absorbed members of the tribe. If they hadn't been rich they would have hanged in two seconds.
Aipac would have been outraged.
@rdred8693
AIPAC would have been proud of them especially in the way (true to their racial traditions) they both tried to sheet home the responsibility to the other party.
A high quality piece.
Kudos. This is a super well put together documentary. I live abroad but my heart is always with The Windy City of my birth. Thank you.
The home of Bobby Franks that is shown, is how it looks now. It is condos, 4 of them I think. It is a beautiful structure. The fence of the Loeb's home is still there. The garage that Leopold said his car was in, is still there. However, the Loeb and Leopold homes have been torn down. With some research, you can see pictures of their homes. Loeb had the BIGGEST and he was the richest.
I totally agree with you! It feels like they lack empathy and are not aware of the consequences of their actions. That insensitivity is reprehensible!
My stepfather knew Bobby Franks. He and his father brought turkey to the The Chicago Home for Jewish Orphans every Thanksgiving. My stepfather lived at the orphan home at that time.
Bobby continue resting in peace.
I think he's unlikely to do anything else for the foreseeable furure
Darrow was ahead of his time - the original Affluenza Defense, the first Abuse Excuse . Truly an innovative advocate. I’ve always found it funny (if anything about this case can actually be considered funny) that after all of Darrow’s soaring oratory, the judge actually ruled, “Yeah, I just think they’re too young to be executed. I’m gonna go with age.”
It always amazes me at how you have people who are extremely intelligent and seemingly have everything and think they can get away with a crime like this. Thankfully hubris always overrides intelligence. They made things way more difficult & overly complicated than it needed to be. That hubris also led them to not get rid of the key evidence. They could’ve easily overcome the glasses but keeping the typewriter & letter was their nail in their coffins.
They need a challenge cos they’re bored with normalcy
But they thought they were so much smarter and clever than those dumb cops.
@ that’s what hubris is.
I believe they were sociopaths.
Arrogance &
Entitlement
1920s to 2020s and its still the same.
Look at what is happening [on a larger scale] in Palestine this minute.
And the whole world sits and watches.
RIP
Bobby Franks
🙏
Such a well put together documentary. It was fascinating, so glad I stumbled upon it.
Just bc one is wealthy doesn’t mean they’re a good person
It's an indication of the opposite, in many cases.
and a decade before the world tried solving the major problem of similiar hebrews
True......just look at Donald Trump
Yup. Look at the Clintons and all the people they've murdered
@@DavidChavez-gf2om idiot. Trump won. Get over it
Man servant thought he was helping his young 'master' by claiming," They didn't have the car that night, I did". 😂
The Hitchcock film Rope was 'inspired' by this case.
“Rope” is my favorite Alfred Hitchcock movie.
Thank you. Right when I saw them in this documentary I suddenly thought of "Rope". Interesting fact, thanks for telling us.
I found a dumpy old dusty book from the 1960s on this case in a tiny Oklahoma rural library in 1980 when I was 9 yrs old, stuck there visiting great-grandparents during a summer break from school. I became absolutely obsessed with the case. Fast-forward 10 yrs, I'm a freshman in college. This case, incredibly, came up in conversation the 1st time my new boyfriend & I had dinner w/his mom & her (lawyer) husband. The step-dad made us stop at Blockbuster on the way back from dinner, where he rented a VCR and the movie 'Compulsion,' which he made us watch immediately in their hotel room with his extensive commentary on Clarence Darrow's closing argument. Crazy how this story captivates so many to the point that it has had a serious impact on our lives.
Excellent video. I have seen a few on these 2 and this one contained some new details.
They may have escaped justice in this life, but non escapes God's justice, which is far worse
It makes you wonder how anyone could represent those 2 scumbags.
It's always about privilege. Nothing changes.
There is a thin line between genius and insanity!
Leopold really was a sick young man. Anyone who discover a nest of rare birds, care for them lovingly, then return the next day and kill them, thats the epitome of warped thinking. Soulless.
I have just watched the two killers, Leopoldo and Loeb murder of Bobby Franks. Well after watching this case of 1924 the story is so similar to the Lyle and Erik case where they murdered their parents in1989. Jose and Kitty Menendez. Amazing that the cases are so similar of what happened after they were sentenced life in prison, and not hanged. Similarities that were so joined together. Watch this programme and you will see how the two cases came together after they were sentenced! 😮
A life sentence plus 99 years for the kidnapping, is out on parole !!???
It was a good documentary, but please do not smile and sound giddy when describing the terrible nature of murderers, and the horrific death of a child. That was a little disturbing, to have some of the presenters sound so happy about this case.
Richard Loeb was a distant cousin of Bobby Franks, and lived across the street from him.
Second cousin.
I remember back in the 1960s When I Was A Just A Kid, Watching The Movie 🍿, Compultion (1960) .
That's When I First Also Heard about The Evil Murder of Bobby Franks.
What a Terrible Thing to do To a Child.
As I Felt Then,
As I Still Feel Now,
I Think Both
Leopold and Loeb
Should've Definitely Received The Death Penalty For What They Did To Poor Bobby Franks.
At least Richard Loeb Was Paid For His Part in The Murder, Very Violently.
They Were Nothing But 2 Cold Hearted Lowlife Child Murders.
R.I.P.
Robert Franks 🙏🏻🌹
God Bless/Rest His Soul. 👍🏻
Yep both trash. This is the thing with rich people children. Parents never raise them producing narcissist and psychopaths
@@brianpress1392I saw that movie. Chilling
Both psychopaths 🤦🏽♀️
Charlevoix rang a bell. It’s where Jon Benet Ramsey’s family were going to originally go the morning JBR was found dead. Turns out the Loeb estate and the Ramsey one are an eight minute drive from each other.
Charlevoix, is a BEAUTIFUL place. Some of the Loeb family members still live there. That section is not open to the public. Weddings and other events are still held in other areas of the estate.
JBR and her family lived in Colorado ... were the Ramsey family driving out of state?
@ They had some kind of second home in Charlevoix. This video mentions it in the first few minutes. ruclips.net/video/_VS0yEC1bl4/видео.htmlsi=QejyONT10px87MJH It was bought by John and Patsy, then sold by Patsy (not sure why John was left out) after JBRs death.
@@heatherbeach4696they were flying there on a private plane. Probably had to get to that house and hide evidence.
What monters they were. Poor little Bobby, a victim of psychotic-affluenza.
So very sad for the parents
Subbed 👍🏼
EDIT: wondering if CPD would have been as eager to solve this case, had the victim been of a “lower” socioeconomic status? 🤷🏻♀️
No, of course not. Money talks
No one cares for the poor.
Hell no. They were RICH, Jewish, and lived in an elite neighborhood.
Of course they would.They got lucky,with the glasses,and Sven the witness.The case was solved quickly,because of that,not because the family was rich.
What's interesting is in watching two docs on this film there's over 5 angry posts exclaiming how they would have not gotten the same defense. There's no anger that they might have been kyllers only that they wouldn't have gotten the same defense. I think you're just race-bayting.
Fascinating... Thanks
Neither one should ever have been released from prison
This young boy was brutally murdered
Death penalty for
Premeditated Murder😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Everyone always comments about the way they look, but their attorneys tell them not to react and to stare straight ahead. The only time you see emotion is when they're on the witness stand or standing before the judge.
That little boy was viciously r@ped, how Clarence Darrow managed to keep the physical evidence of that out of Court is beyond me. I don't believe this "Perfect Murder" theory, l think it was a clumsy stupid crime. R.l.P. Bobby 🌹
No. Bobby Franks was not sexually assaulted. The coroner determined that. This was not a sex killing. Franks was just unlucky. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and Loeb knew him.
Fascinating & well-made documentary. I'd heard the names Leopold & Loeb before but don't remember how - maybe a song... I didn't know anything about this story. Before their time, in the worst possible way.
They're mentioned in Seinfeld.
Monster's rich spoiled pure evils 😡😠🤬
Is it just me, or were the 1920’s wild AF
Feel most postwar decades are, people act out thinking they just overcame something and that adrenaline brings out the BS
They were referred to as the "Roaring 20s"
@ The obvious bot weighed in. Do you think I’m stupid?
@ derp.
Terrible disgusting story with every day psychopaths.
10,000 in 1924 strangely only inflates to around 185,000 today.
[Edit]
And WHY are the presenters smiling?
Michigander here, my grandpa was friends with a butler's son who worked for the Loeb family, who had nothing but nice things to say about the entire family and Master Richard, going as far to say he left this earth unconvinced that Loeb was involved in this horrific unnecessary crime.
So, Nathan kills a rare bird. He prefers it dead than alive. First he feeds it, then kills it !
I knew he was guilty as soon as i heard he killed that bird that was so rare. Then cut down the tree for his collection. Cared for nothing but himself
Those short pants the young boys wore are called knickers. My brother wore them and how he hated them!
They aren't that intelligent cause they got caught for one. and two, they lack common sense.
Common sense would have told them not to do that. Many murderers get caught.
I agree
They said they didn’t know until that day of the murder who they were going to kill and yet they had typed a letter the day before with the boys address on it
This documentary focusses more on these two disgusting pigs than the poor baby that was murdered and his family. And don’t believe for a moment Leopold died of a “heart attack”! How can someone die of a heart attack if they don’t have one?
Is this the first known case of which would be known as, "The OJ defense" (no matter what you do (with fame, $, and arrogance), you can buy your way out?
No. They pleaded guilty and we're sentenced to prison for life. OJ went scot free after butchering two people.
The combination of a couple of sociopaths together equaled murder. Poor Bobby Franks.
Crazzzy that they were able to get out of the Death penalty
I think the erroneous, subconscious assumption is deeply rooted in our culture: 'My pleasure is more important than your wellbeing.' After all the bravado, they're common, conscienceless narcissists. 'Since I'm superior, the rules don't apply to me.' Wonder, how many of our social problems originate with these people?
Excellent point. Poor Bobby Franks 🖤😪
That study of the shapes of their heads fell in line with 'The Eugenics ideology" that was pushed at the time.
Some people are so smart that they are crazy.
The narrator said it all, if they were poor, they would have hung!
Ain't no "Parole" later, once you've been hung!
Justice is blind, but it can aparently count!
Count $$$!
Nathan Leopold had dead eyes.
He should have got the penalty, then he would not have been set free! Child killer!!
As an internet detective, hearing that someone's glasses were in a remote area that HE knew, WOULD make him a suspect, not exclude him. It's an area he was obviously familiar with. AND you live a baseballs throw from his house?
As they mentioned, if you were paying attention, the glasses could’ve easily been explained away. The glasses in of themselves didn’t point to guilt; they only led to someone that needed to be investigated and/or questioned. It was the typewriter, the rental car, the letter & their story that got them. If they had gotten rid of the typewriter and not tried to make things difficult by renting a car they would’ve gotten away with it because at the end of the day the glasses didn’t mean a whole lot, at least not as much as the other evidence.
Also, being a baseballs throw away didn’t mean a whole lot here either. Not only am I from Chicago but I was born at the university hospital where they were in school. I went to high school a few blocks away from where they lived. The Kenwood/ Hyde Park neighborhood are right next to Bronzville which had a COMPLETELY different class of people living there even in 1924. They also live “a baseballs throw” away.
@@kenyattaclay7666 The eye glasses were the beginning of their investigation. Only 3 were made with a certain type of of hindge. One belonged to a woman, the other belonged to a man that was out of town and the other pair belonged to Leopold. I am from Chicago also and have heard about and researched this case.
@ as I said & they mentioned in the documentary, at the end of the day the glasses weren’t that important or at least as Maya’s people want to put on them. If you have researched this case as you say you have then you know that he was out there all the time. Yes they were rare because of the hinge. Yes it put him on the list of people to talk to but just like the other two people because of his activities out in that area that evidence would’ve led to nowhere had they not made so many other mistakes. The typewriter is the most important pice of evidence because that is what they used to type the note. The typewriter, NOT the glasses is the proverbial smoking gun.
@ also, if you have studied this like you say you have then you’d also know they were ready to charge one of Frank’s teachers for the murder. It wasn’t until they found the letter that they became suspicious of them because the glasses had no real evidentiary value because of his leading bird watching groups at that spot.
I'm looking at this video 📹 about this criminal case in May 15th , 1921 in Chicago, Illinois and those murderous thugs should be imprisonment for the rest of their lives without parole or pardon 😳.
They let him out??? My mind is boggled.
Thank you
Props to that inmate with the shanck..,
Beware the unibrow😮😂😂😂😂😂
Menendez brothers idols
They were monsters.
It reminds me of an Alfred Hitchcock film : “The rope”.
It always helps to have a few millions.
Why steal if you're rich? Or is that a family trait?😊
A releligious/cultural one
Because they were a couple of extremely wealthy but bored rich kids who had everything but it wasn't enough
No contacts in those days 😂 41:55
The fact that she said they had servants as if was normal shows how w ppl minds work
Most "w" people didn't have servants. Only rich ones. Don't judge all w people like that lol😊
What songs and movies was about this?
Nothing is perfect on Earth. Thats for our Creator. Everything comes to light, even the darkest, tho they cant enter it.
I remember those rich mean evil 😈 thugs!
That unibrow is creepy
"Wearing their 'Sunday best'?" They were Jewish!
Ok, Sabbath best.
They were Bobby Franks' schoolfriends.
Were they Jewish?
I feel so sorry for Roberts parents . What a nightmare.
Last sentence told by the woman at the end of the video is BS.
It 13:37. The male commentator refers to the nudity of the victim, inspiring the idea that the person was gay and a predator… Most people do not know that 97% of predators are self identified as heterosexual, and are usually people who know the victim. In other words, predators are generally heterosexual and many times the sex of the victim is unimportant to them. This comment was inappropriate to say the least.
Whatever the sex of the victim, that is what a predator basically does - hunts the victim. Leopold and Loeb also happened to be in a gay relationship. I didn't find it inappropriate at all.
Those were the ideas of that time, doesn't mean we have to agree with it.
But it seems we haven't learned a bit from those times accusing people of being predators who don't present as a hetero normative. That is what bothers me personally.
What is being described is the assumption and belief of that time period!
There’s an eerie parallel between these two and the two Columbine perpetrators, and how they psychologically coalesced for something wicked
It's strange that kidnap doesn't get spelled the way it should be, namely kidnab. It maybe does not come across as 'harsh' enough that way. But it WOULD be the logical like that.
6 months of planning and that was the best they could do eh? A weird mess fell apart in like one day?
It’s not funny and I’m not trying to be flippant, their crime was horrible. It’s just wild that these two were supposed to be geniuses but they were just so… dumb.
Sounds like a sex crime to me
You didn’t watch it all did you?
@@annegiorgio5602Of course not😂
Well, it doesn't mean they needed to abuse the victim to make it a sex crime of sorts. It may have been arousing for those two sick individuals.
For me is not a surprised that Leopold had been m*lested. Back then predators generally went unpunished because the victims were too afraid to say anything or if they did they wouldn’t be believed. Plus, it was such a taboo subject. a child could not accuse an adult of having taken advantage of them
Poor Warbles 🪺!!!
Bobby was Dick’s cousin.
48:30 come on now, if you look at Robbie Franks' school records he most certainly WAS NOT 'doing his homework' and most certainly WAS 'worrying his mother.' He was a little Loeb in the making. Which of course doesn't mean he deserved to be murd*red but certainly does shed light on how these little rich boys were being 'raised' in that community.
Leopold endures eternal justice if he didn't repent.
That's why the victim was placed in the area. Leopold was fimiliar with the area.
Two docs on the same subject. I think this is cut from the American Experience version
I think you said the exact same thing on another video. Not everyone is out here trying to steal stuff from another video. If you don't like it, move along and don't watch. Stick with the American Experience videos than.
I read the book it was great
a real gay lover who hate the society; a question: they rape to boby??? A great documentary. The Rope movie was tight
Why didn't they get them an attorney?
'perfect crime' ? clowns