I am hopeful for Vietnam industry. I am very much reminded of the Hyundai story, having myself been the proud owner of a first generation Hyundai Excel, the sub-$7k 1986 "powerhouse" lol. It was deemed a joke of poor quality at the time. Fast forward, and look at Hyundai today! I hope for as successful a growth and improvement trajectory for Vinfast. Honestly, my Excel experience was instructive. As much as several details aggravated me,---rubbery imprecise manual shifter, anemic acceleration that forced me to shut off a/c when starting from a traffic light, just to keep up with traffic, to the unsupportive bucket seats, that little car nevertheless was still going "fine" when I sold it after 182K miles on the odo.
Hyundai Excel was the cheapest car you could buy when it came out. Yugo was cheaper but you couldn't go anywhere with Yugo as it was often no-go. haha This VinFast is 52K+, more expensive than Tesla Y. If VinFast wanted to be like Hyundai, the Vinfast VF8 shouldn't cost more than 30K.
@@mspsysagreed. I think Tesla set a model in the ev world of releasing more expensive models first, as the technology is new, and they seek to cover rnd costs. It seems the other car companies are following Tesla's lead. But maybe they shouldn't in this case. Vinfast has a concept for a very simple, sub-$20k car that is cute as a Tonka Truck. Depending on range, I'd consider buying it. A simple vehicle will be far easier to them to iron out the wrinkles from.
@@michaelanders6161 VinFast is only able to compete and sell cars in Vietnam due to insane 65% tax/tariff imposed on imported vehicles. Toyota Corolla costs almost $80K in Vietnam, making it real easy for VinFast to stay profitable in the domestic market. Chinese EV makers are flooding the EU market right now. Since 2021, Chinese EV market share grew by 361%!! While the Chinese EV makers had to survive & become good w/o any government subsidy, which is allowing them to dominate the EU market now, VinFast is nothing but a vapor ware, only staying in existence due to government subsidy.
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
As someone who got in on the 2019 Ioniq EV $0 down $99/mo lease deal, I feel like this is the next logical step, despite the flaws. :-) What a deal! Hopefully an OTA update comes quickly to solve some of these issues...
Have you purchased the car after the lease? I bet they offered you money on 2022 for returning the vehicle because it was the height of the used car prices! Such a good purchase by the way!
Hey Kyle, I have watched your reviewed on VF8. I think you should take it easy on VF8 bro. I know there are a lot of big car companies out there that have a lot of problems too. They keep having recall issues all the time. I have owned many different brands of cars in the past because I love to switch cars every few years. They all have problems and I have to bring them in to get it fixed. Vinfast is a newcomer, I personally think they are doing a very good job. They did listen and fixed most of the problems in a short period. Therefore, I think you should take it easy and stop looking down on them bro. I start to feel that you are a little bit bias against them. You can give them feedback so they can fix the problem but please try to say in a nicer way. lol ,,, Hence, they are building their manufacturer in the U.S and that's mean they are creating jobs for us. It is all Positive. Peace Bro.
How much does a VinFast car cost? 49000 is dollars 2023 VinFast VF 8 Features Specs Base MSRP Excludes Destination Fee How much is the Tesla Model Y out the door? Pricing starts at $43,990. A maximum range of up to 310 miles, the latest tech, and a starting price under $40k (if you qualify for the federal EV tax credit) give the Tesla Model Y enough mainstream appeal to be the best-selling electric vehicle in the United States. No brainer, vicious competition
@@ldgnotebook Tesla Model Y is just an iPad on Wheels. It’s cheap for a REASON. Did you see the luxury features on the VF8 vs the Model Y? Apple Car Play/Android Auto/Alexa, HUD, moonroof that opens/closes, has electric sunshade cover, blind spot indicator, to name a few..
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
I will give Vinfast some slack here given my ownership experience with Tesla M3. When I got it in 2019, the screen would freeze periodically, there were random loose bolts making noise, the cabin experience wasn't great (still isn't) and autopilot basically tried to kill me countless times! And without showrooms in Texas, it was a very bad buying experience. I know a lot has changed since but compared to that, your VF8 experience is much better.
That is what Tesla owners always try to forget, they just got used to all the failures The Model 3 had extremely loud wind and road noises, failed wishbone suspension, skewed trunk lids and so much more. The Model X, a 85k car had wild issues the first months, the doors were outright dangerous. In fact all Teslas have and still have wild issues, like auto-break, not functioning rain detection, tanking charging curves + the model specific failures
If a new brand is starting out and has flaky software, I think that can be okay as long as the buyers are informed up-front and the price reflects that. However, nothing should be delivered unless the key elements of being a car work reliably. The safety features are obviously needed - you can't have the brakes freeze due to software issues. But also important is the ability to charge (at all), and the ability to lock/unlock the car. That's the one function which I would absolutely say is a no-go issue for this car at the moment. You can deal with most of the other stuff being fixed "eventually".
It’s not a horrible car they seemed to have made improvements. Two of my family members got VF8s because of the lease rates. It’s dirt cheap! But FFS the dealer experience was less than stellar.. As I mentioned the word of mouth element is so so important with a start up brand
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
What a great video to warn all to avoid Vinfast vehicles. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole after this video. Will watch the upcoming videos to confirm my initial impression. Thank God Jordan's stepping up while Kyle bails on her and her sweet dog.
39:40 When Kyle said "Little dude in a yellow jacket" I nearly lost it. Probably the funniest thing I've heard all week. Was he talking about the man in the yellow hat or curious George?? Props to Francie for not completely loosing it.
Loving the huge effort from you Francie and Kyle! Definitely lookikg forward to move videos of the Vinfast cause I know they are watching you guys and, who knows, will improve things, or not 😊
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
@@BenDover-zd5fcand you think you are better than a multi billionaire founder and chairman of the biggest conglomerate of a whole country? Give me a break. You are making a fool out of your self. Hilariously. Know your place little tadpole.
This is a great demonstration of how dependent we have become on software, that bad software overshadows even decent hardware, and how hard it is to make software good, let alone great. Thanks for the candid and honest review.
Love how Kyle is so calm when this vs go wrong. also love when Kyle can "I'm doin a video with you sell me a car or won't sell me a car" and it has significant clout! I kinda feel like this is hazing for Francie because no one expects the car to perform and she may be the one stranded.
Even though it is a 5-year-old car manufacturer, it improves according to customer requirements very quickly. I find they respect customers more than some other brands. I think their future versions will have a difference groundbreaking. But the company's gasoline-powered cars are excellent. Most users only have trouble with Vinfast's electric vehicles because electric vehicles are a product they have only recently produced
This was very nice and interesting video. Thank you so kuch Kyle and Francie for this video. Can't wait for the charging tests and most importantly the road trip video. Hopefully Francie's roadtrip went well on this interesting car.
It looks like you guys bought the vehicle right off Hwy 64 in SW Raleigh. I'm very excited you guys got the VinFast whirlwind experience. It seems to have plenty to go over both good and very bad. Looking forward to more on this. Watching this makes me glad I still have a much more analog vehicle. Imagine having this vehicle in 10 or 12 years from now and all of the problems with so many computer-controlled interfaces. All new vehicles made now are stupidly overly complicated in fact. No thanks... lol
1:07:15 - This is why I hate this trend of cars pushing ALL controls to a stupid tablet! It's a cost-cutting measure, plain and simple. Give us buttons!
I can't stop laughing. I purchased the VF 8 Plus and after 9 months, VInfast bought it back! So we had a 9 month test drive. For 9 months, nothing but charging problems and critical failures. For charging i used the Vinfast charger to charged my Tesla S and never had a failure. The VF8 wouldn't charge more than 10 minutes and then fail. The car would not remember any of the driver settings, so every time we drove it we had to turn off all the warnings and chimes and the car continued to throw warnings and errors. We took one road trip that was a nightmare! needless to say it was a long 9 months. OTA updates that were promised, never happened and Vinfast came to get the car twice to do the software updates in the shop. Anyway after getting all of our money back we have the Kia EV9 and love it! Now i am going to sell my 2014 Tesla S to buy a R1S. I love the Tesla, great ride, power and all of the tech works great. but the R1S looks like a great replacement.
This video shows one thing for sure. Vinfast needs to work on their software, which for many laymen drivers will definitely be a deal breaker for digitally unprofessional people.
It'd probably still be around in Vietnam. North America? Who knows, depends on how deep their pockets are. Hyundai were ridiculed back in the day too for the Pony.
This is going to be fun.....well for us :) FYI - Price here in Montreal,Canada is $805/month, base ECO model, 36 month lease, $0 down, 16k/yr This includes government rebates of $7800 O U C H, no deal here!!!! No thank you.
*The EV is like a smartphone/laptop computer. When you do something that interferes with the EV, it will have a software meltdown. The EV had been fine until after the EVgo charging stations had the connection issues, which probably interfered with the EV software. Of course, all you need to do is to reset it just like a smartphone. If I were you, I would never have used any public charging stations that look bad or are damaged.*
My daughter bought a '23 Lexus UX250 hybrid. She had it or 3 days when she realized it didn't have a power lift gate and it was important to her for what she does. They said it couldn't be returned after 2 days. She's looking into an aftermarket power hatch - very expensive. I could hardly believe any Lexus doesn't have a power lift gate.
That's baffling to me that for some people the auto open and close back hatch is a must have. My parents have a 2018 nissan rogue with that feature and it really sucks to use most of the time. It's insanely slow both opening and closing, and if you try to force it by hand it will break. It's hard to get used to for most people, and The only thing about it that's helpful is being able to remotely open it. I personally prefer the ol reliable hand operated rear hatch like my 2021 kia soul has. 5 times faster to use and it doesn't have 100 different parts that will be broken in 10 years. Also no offense to your daughter, but how the hell do you buy an expensive car without checking for things like that if it's what she wanted?!
1:07:20 Just love it when everything is on touch screens and hidden submenus (sarcasm) instead having quick to use buttons/nobs. Really makes every manufacturer’s bugs shine like a sore thumb when they stop working while driving. Both Chevrolet and Fords we have do those issues losing USB/Bluetooth connections or just freezing the media center up and have to restart, though my favourite is when it’s too cold and the Chevrolet’s digital stuff stops working, along with the ABS and TC. Lol truly remarkable after the flaming Vinfast received when they first came to North America over their reliability and they’ve still not figured it out. I wouldn’t give this brand to my worst enemy (waste of money), laughable they’re designing a pickup when they still can’t get a handle on what they have.
The media center screen in my 2021 kia soul never has issues with bluetooth/usb connections. If it did I would have been taking it back to the dealer. Part of the reason to get a modern new car is to at least have a good media center already built in! Not surprising ford and chevy still can't figure out good software after 20 years of mediocre software in their vehicles. Ford Sync was one of the worst things ever created.
Francie faffing around with that second cable was a classic. VinFast selling a car to OOS was probably their worst PR decision ever made. VinFast life appears to suck! I'll stick with Tesla.
55:43 Funny I had the same reaction when I read what car you bought in the title. The car looks great, it's everything else that gives me that reaction.😂😂😂
You changed your mind, so did I. I was actually the one who hit "dislike" when I saw the title of your previous video about VF8. But now I have become a subscriber to your channel. I think there will be many Vietnamese people who will do the same as me 😅
This experience is what (way too) many people think dealing with Tesla is like. When in fact Tesla in general has a more pleasant and hassle-free buying experience than any other car company on the planet. Bet Vinfast has a PR department 😢
There is never an end of early adopters not you guys but customers. They will leave to a new brand when one gets big. But that is funny it never ends. Like android when Apple was the established phone. Or Tesla and now rivian now vinfast
I bought a used lemon law Bolt, the cheapest EV money could buy last year. The current Vinfast lease deal is actually a third cheaper per month than my car. For a brand new pretty big EV SUV stickered at nearly 50 grand, that's an insane deal, even if the car is mediocre at best. I'd have taken the chance on it for sure.
The golden rule don't buy first year car. There always problems first year and maybe second year. Wait til a least 3 years. EVGO sucks. the broken chargers need to be fixed ASAP
Yeah buddy you took it to them instead of them paying you and giving you meals you decided to give them money instead! Ha take that man! Wait what? lol. All seriousness good to do it this way.
Looking forward to all the videos that will be coming. The lease deal seems great... But $46K for this car???? why would you not just get a Model Y? or ID4.
My experience with Electricfied America is to avoid the 350 KW chargers. I own Ford lighting, it to is internally limited to about 150 KWs. The sometimes the 350 KW chargers work and I see a charge rate of about 162KWs. Other times they limit me to about 67 KWs. Their 150 KW chargers are more dependable, and I see an average charge rate of about 123 KWs. By the way, the key fobs were to close the vehicle to test if the doors were locked or not. Almost every vehicle sold today would have reacted the same way this vehicle did, including my Ford.
@harriettanthony7352 The check is in the mail. They will call you after the Summer. They will respect you in the morning. They'll just put the head in. Und so weiter.
This reminds me of the story about George Clooney leaving a voicemail about problems with his Tesla. On a different topic we have lots of information about Tesla hardware but we know very little about the software.
@@gocnhinvutru what is the range of VF8 48K? Model Y RWD is 455 Km. How about VF8? Before driving a car, you should confirm the information you have first. If you can't accept the information, you won't go for the next step
yes, of course, it is hard to accept a new car brand with that price. Not like Huyndai or Kia did before. But they will dubut some cheaper models. I just wana say please drive it before compare. If you only like Tesla, EV6, Ioniq, Bz4x, then not thing I ca comment more@@Honest888-e4g
I’m rooting for Vinfast because they are setting up manufacturing here in the US, but they priced this way too high😭. Why would I buy this over the Model Y, VW ID4, Kia Ev6, etc when it’s the same price or even higher….also they need to convert to NACS!
It’s great that he got the car for her, but he didn’t buy the car. He leased it which is a rental agreement unless it’s a „finance lease“ which is uncommon.
I think Vietnam is making the right move at this time to invest in EVs. I guess they will have time to iron out the flaws and become a respectable player in the long run. If they had to compete at making ICE, they probably wouldn't be able to win globally. Ev's aren't easy, but they are a lot easier than ICE.
39:43 The number of factors required for Kyle to not be familiar with Nancy Drew but be able to reference Encyclopedia Brown yet still somehow confuse him with Curious George is actually impressive
@@chungloankenny Because he MUST TAKE the cross-country trip to San-Francisco and he stayed FOUR days in SC even though he was promised by the dealer that he gets the car on Thursday, then it becomes Friday, then Saturday, then Monday and still not ready. What kind of dealer does thing like that? Your ears were punched when you were young so you can't understand human's explanation?
A cross country trip won't tell the whole story? What counts as a "true" owner? Not leasing the car? Weird statement to make with little to no merit as to what a "True" anything is.
@@JonathanRootDFrancie deserves to be treated so much better than this. Sticking her with an unproven vehicle with known reliability problems for a long roadtrip home. That's a real loser move, Kyle. That's not hazing, that's endangerment.
Green ages the worst of all colors. Think 80s forest green 90s teal green 00s dark green 10s lime green. Silver is the best for age. Put a silver beside a green car of any era and the silver car will look newer.
For whatever weird reason I’m more excited about this series than any of your other recent videos. OK I was probably more excited for the cyber truck stuff but other than that one this seems super interesting.
It tells you the VIN, all the time, by loudly beeping it at you in morse code. Some reviewers incorrectly said those were "warning beeps," but actually it is a feature so that you never forget the VIN. EVER.
hey, you guide good. if I am review this car..... you can hear a lot of FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFF PHO-FRANKYYYYYYYY---- 3/10 IS STILL TOO HIGH.... - I WILL GIVE IT -3/10 CAR FOR FREE i AM STILL DON'T WANT IT.
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VINfast got a bunch of people in the comments section 👀
*They are all paid commie to say good about them or attack other who dislike Vinfast.*
You got that right! Vinfast can provided 1000's of comments as you wished. SCAM
@@jaybui7506 and who hire you to attack VF?
@@jaybui7506get a life. Also, tell your parents stop taking SSI from the US.
@@lanpncz useless vfast
Kyle, don’t know where/how you found Francie but she is like a breath of fresh air for the channel! You go girl!
he has a skill for finding the ladies haha
Is this new grilfiend?
I am hopeful for Vietnam industry. I am very much reminded of the Hyundai story, having myself been the proud owner of a first generation Hyundai Excel, the sub-$7k 1986 "powerhouse" lol.
It was deemed a joke of poor quality at the time. Fast forward, and look at Hyundai today! I hope for as successful a growth and improvement trajectory for Vinfast.
Honestly, my Excel experience was instructive. As much as several details aggravated me,---rubbery imprecise manual shifter, anemic acceleration that forced me to shut off a/c when starting from a traffic light, just to keep up with traffic, to the unsupportive bucket seats, that little car nevertheless was still going "fine" when I sold it after 182K miles on the odo.
Very well said, I do remember how much we laughed at Hyundai & Kia too lol
Hyundai Excel was the cheapest car you could buy when it came out. Yugo was cheaper but you couldn't go anywhere with Yugo as it was often no-go. haha This VinFast is 52K+, more expensive than Tesla Y. If VinFast wanted to be like Hyundai, the Vinfast VF8 shouldn't cost more than 30K.
@@mspsysagreed. I think Tesla set a model in the ev world of releasing more expensive models first, as the technology is new, and they seek to cover rnd costs. It seems the other car companies are following Tesla's lead. But maybe they shouldn't in this case. Vinfast has a concept for a very simple, sub-$20k car that is cute as a Tonka Truck. Depending on range, I'd consider buying it. A simple vehicle will be far easier to them to iron out the wrinkles from.
@@michaelanders6161 VinFast is only able to compete and sell cars in Vietnam due to insane 65% tax/tariff imposed on imported vehicles. Toyota Corolla costs almost $80K in Vietnam, making it real easy for VinFast to stay profitable in the domestic market. Chinese EV makers are flooding the EU market right now. Since 2021, Chinese EV market share grew by 361%!! While the Chinese EV makers had to survive & become good w/o any government subsidy, which is allowing them to dominate the EU market now, VinFast is nothing but a vapor ware, only staying in existence due to government subsidy.
Thank you for your words of encouragement
Yay Francie!!! I am so happy for you. You seem so happy. I was so happy to have my very own EV.
You’re the best Diane!!!
@@heyfrancie You too!!!
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
For all the challenges, I still think it looks like a very promising car and company. Only positive vibes for VinFast from me. Great video!
As someone who got in on the 2019 Ioniq EV $0 down $99/mo lease deal, I feel like this is the next logical step, despite the flaws. :-) What a deal! Hopefully an OTA update comes quickly to solve some of these issues...
That is a fucking deal holyshit😮
Have you purchased the car after the lease? I bet they offered you money on 2022 for returning the vehicle because it was the height of the used car prices! Such a good purchase by the way!
Hard to believe that! 0$ down and $99/mo? Sounds like one of their commercials. Hey if you say so.
@@daviidfm923
Ever wondered why VinFast cars are so much CHEAPER to lease than purchase???
@@BenDover-zd5fc they are not tho. It’s like 50k.
Hey Kyle, I have watched your reviewed on VF8. I think you should take it easy on VF8 bro. I know there are a lot of big car companies out there that have a lot of problems too. They keep having recall issues all the time. I have owned many different brands of cars in the past because I love to switch cars every few years. They all have problems and I have to bring them in to get it fixed. Vinfast is a newcomer, I personally think they are doing a very good job. They did listen and fixed most of the problems in a short period. Therefore, I think you should take it easy and stop looking down on them bro. I start to feel that you are a little bit bias against them. You can give them feedback so they can fix the problem but please try to say in a nicer way. lol ,,, Hence, they are building their manufacturer in the U.S and that's mean they are creating jobs for us. It is all Positive. Peace Bro.
this is good comment
How much does a VinFast car cost? 49000 is dollars
2023 VinFast VF 8 Features Specs
Base MSRP Excludes Destination Fee
How much is the Tesla Model Y out the door?
Pricing starts at $43,990. A maximum range of up to 310 miles, the latest tech, and a starting price under $40k (if you qualify for the federal EV tax credit) give the Tesla Model Y enough mainstream appeal to be the best-selling electric vehicle in the United States.
No brainer, vicious competition
@@ldgnotebook Tesla Model Y is just an iPad on Wheels. It’s cheap for a REASON.
Did you see the luxury features on the VF8 vs the Model Y? Apple Car Play/Android Auto/Alexa, HUD, moonroof that opens/closes, has electric sunshade cover, blind spot indicator, to name a few..
Based on this video. It doesn’t seem that bad. When I first got my Tesla model 3 I had a lot of screen lockups where I had to do resets while driving.
Not that bad? Your kidding right?
@@flattire707 The car moved under its own power and accepted a charge. Yes, that is better than what I was expecting, lol.
@@Johnny_Socko compare the price to other car with the same price
@@flattire707The first year 2012 Model S software was really bad. Lots of glitches and lockups
The mini carpet in the frunk is so you can store the DC cover you've ripped off in and it doesn't rattle as much ;)
How long will it take for VinFast to cancel the Lease? LOL
They better not!
Khi bạn trả pin cho họ. Họ thu lại và tái chế nó.
when you return the battery to them. They collect and recycle it
Lol!
@@tutrieu3838unrelated and said twice
Great Francie, like you new ride, might turn to be better than expected, lets all hope it all works once the software is updated.
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
@@BenDover-zd5fc What...hahaha.
It's nice this vehicle actually comes in various colours. There are current models that are only available in black, white, silver and grey only.
I will give Vinfast some slack here given my ownership experience with Tesla M3. When I got it in 2019, the screen would freeze periodically, there were random loose bolts making noise, the cabin experience wasn't great (still isn't) and autopilot basically tried to kill me countless times! And without showrooms in Texas, it was a very bad buying experience. I know a lot has changed since but compared to that, your VF8 experience is much better.
That is what Tesla owners always try to forget, they just got used to all the failures
The Model 3 had extremely loud wind and road noises, failed wishbone suspension, skewed trunk lids and so much more.
The Model X, a 85k car had wild issues the first months, the doors were outright dangerous. In fact all Teslas have and still have wild issues, like auto-break, not functioning rain detection, tanking charging curves + the model specific failures
If a new brand is starting out and has flaky software, I think that can be okay as long as the buyers are informed up-front and the price reflects that. However, nothing should be delivered unless the key elements of being a car work reliably. The safety features are obviously needed - you can't have the brakes freeze due to software issues. But also important is the ability to charge (at all), and the ability to lock/unlock the car. That's the one function which I would absolutely say is a no-go issue for this car at the moment. You can deal with most of the other stuff being fixed "eventually".
It’s not a horrible car they seemed to have made improvements. Two of my family members got VF8s because of the lease rates. It’s dirt cheap! But FFS the dealer experience was less than stellar.. As I mentioned the word of mouth element is so so important with a start up brand
Frustrated Kyle is the best Kyle. Lol
Frustrated Kyle stresses me out, imagining myself as Francie, like "augh! Gotta get Kyle to the airport and the f*ing car is not working!"
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
What a great video to warn all to avoid Vinfast vehicles. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole after this video. Will watch the upcoming videos to confirm my initial impression. Thank God Jordan's stepping up while Kyle bails on her and her sweet dog.
39:40 When Kyle said "Little dude in a yellow jacket" I nearly lost it. Probably the funniest thing I've heard all week. Was he talking about the man in the yellow hat or curious George?? Props to Francie for not completely loosing it.
Loving the huge effort from you Francie and Kyle! Definitely lookikg forward to move videos of the Vinfast cause I know they are watching you guys and, who knows, will improve things, or not 😊
Dedicated to Chairman of Vinfast P N Vuong:
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.”
@@BenDover-zd5fcand you think you are better than a multi billionaire founder and chairman of the biggest conglomerate of a whole country? Give me a break. You are making a fool out of your self. Hilariously. Know your place little tadpole.
This is a great demonstration of how dependent we have become on software, that bad software overshadows even decent hardware, and how hard it is to make software good, let alone great. Thanks for the candid and honest review.
I am still rooting for the underdog
Love how Kyle is so calm when this vs go wrong. also love when Kyle can "I'm doin a video with you sell me a car or won't sell me a car" and it has significant clout! I kinda feel like this is hazing for Francie because no one expects the car to perform and she may be the one stranded.
Even though it is a 5-year-old car manufacturer, it improves according to customer requirements very quickly. I find they respect customers more than some other brands. I think their future versions will have a difference groundbreaking. But the company's gasoline-powered cars are excellent. Most users only have trouble with Vinfast's electric vehicles because electric vehicles are a product they have only recently produced
Can't wait to see what other adventures or misadventures you guys have with the VF8.
This was very nice and interesting video. Thank you so kuch Kyle and Francie for this video. Can't wait for the charging tests and most importantly the road trip video. Hopefully Francie's roadtrip went well on this interesting car.
congrats on the Vin-slow purchase, that living on the edge
Even in Vietnam, we dont believe in Vingroup and vinfast
That’s 😂
Don't equate the word WE , "WE" not you . I think you're just a lost person
Francie, you're a trooper, putting up with Kyle's OOS hazing! Hope you lucked out and got a good build quality one.
The bit about the baby was my favorite OOS thing ever 😂
Well, Francie this vehicle will definitely provide a sense of adventure that no Rivian could duplicate 😊
It looks like you guys bought the vehicle right off Hwy 64 in SW Raleigh. I'm very excited you guys got the VinFast whirlwind experience. It seems to have plenty to go over both good and very bad. Looking forward to more on this. Watching this makes me glad I still have a much more analog vehicle. Imagine having this vehicle in 10 or 12 years from now and all of the problems with so many computer-controlled interfaces. All new vehicles made now are stupidly overly complicated in fact. No thanks... lol
1:07:15 - This is why I hate this trend of cars pushing ALL controls to a stupid tablet! It's a cost-cutting measure, plain and simple. Give us buttons!
I can't stop laughing. I purchased the VF 8 Plus and after 9 months, VInfast bought it back! So we had a 9 month test drive. For 9 months, nothing but charging problems and critical failures. For charging i used the Vinfast charger to charged my Tesla S and never had a failure. The VF8 wouldn't charge more than 10 minutes and then fail. The car would not remember any of the driver settings, so every time we drove it we had to turn off all the warnings and chimes and the car continued to throw warnings and errors. We took one road trip that was a nightmare! needless to say it was a long 9 months. OTA updates that were promised, never happened and Vinfast came to get the car twice to do the software updates in the shop. Anyway after getting all of our money back we have the Kia EV9 and love it! Now i am going to sell my 2014 Tesla S to buy a R1S. I love the Tesla, great ride, power and all of the tech works great. but the R1S looks like a great replacement.
Well said!
This video shows one thing for sure. Vinfast needs to work on their software, which for many laymen drivers will definitely be a deal breaker for digitally unprofessional people.
They are working very hard bro, you will see if you follow review from owner
I'm pulling for Vietnam, and I hope the car pleasantly surprises you guys.
We literally charged at that same EVgo charger with our Bolt just 6 days before you were there! We ate at the IHOP.
This green is actually looking nice. Genesis vibes
I love the VF8 model
So what the update on this Vinfast v8? Did she survive her road trip? Or did it break down?
🤔
Will the company still be there 3 years from now?
It'd probably still be around in Vietnam. North America? Who knows, depends on how deep their pockets are. Hyundai were ridiculed back in the day too for the Pony.
I’m looking to lease the plus version. The reason I’m here. Looking for as many videos as possible
I have been driving an VF8 for over 14 months. You need to checkout the vehicle with your own eyes and drive test.
This is going to be fun.....well for us :) FYI - Price here in Montreal,Canada is $805/month, base ECO model, 36 month lease, $0 down, 16k/yr This includes government rebates of $7800 O U C H, no deal here!!!! No thank you.
22:29 Is that beef jerky shoved between the rear view mirror and windshield?
I wondered about that too! Some sort of sun shield?!
Good looking car, my favourite colour!
*The EV is like a smartphone/laptop computer. When you do something that interferes with the EV, it will have a software meltdown. The EV had been fine until after the EVgo charging stations had the connection issues, which probably interfered with the EV software. Of course, all you need to do is to reset it just like a smartphone. If I were you, I would never have used any public charging stations that look bad or are damaged.*
My daughter bought a '23 Lexus UX250 hybrid. She had it or 3 days when she realized it didn't have a power lift gate and it was important to her for what she does. They said it couldn't be returned after 2 days. She's looking into an aftermarket power hatch - very expensive. I could hardly believe any Lexus doesn't have a power lift gate.
That's baffling to me that for some people the auto open and close back hatch is a must have. My parents have a 2018 nissan rogue with that feature and it really sucks to use most of the time. It's insanely slow both opening and closing, and if you try to force it by hand it will break. It's hard to get used to for most people, and The only thing about it that's helpful is being able to remotely open it. I personally prefer the ol reliable hand operated rear hatch like my 2021 kia soul has. 5 times faster to use and it doesn't have 100 different parts that will be broken in 10 years.
Also no offense to your daughter, but how the hell do you buy an expensive car without checking for things like that if it's what she wanted?!
It's awesome looking car. They just need to get all the bugs out
@davidhanna92
They'll never get all the bugs out of it.
1:07:20 Just love it when everything is on touch screens and hidden submenus (sarcasm) instead having quick to use buttons/nobs. Really makes every manufacturer’s bugs shine like a sore thumb when they stop working while driving. Both Chevrolet and Fords we have do those issues losing USB/Bluetooth connections or just freezing the media center up and have to restart, though my favourite is when it’s too cold and the Chevrolet’s digital stuff stops working, along with the ABS and TC. Lol truly remarkable after the flaming Vinfast received when they first came to North America over their reliability and they’ve still not figured it out. I wouldn’t give this brand to my worst enemy (waste of money), laughable they’re designing a pickup when they still can’t get a handle on what they have.
The media center screen in my 2021 kia soul never has issues with bluetooth/usb connections. If it did I would have been taking it back to the dealer. Part of the reason to get a modern new car is to at least have a good media center already built in! Not surprising ford and chevy still can't figure out good software after 20 years of mediocre software in their vehicles. Ford Sync was one of the worst things ever created.
It’s going to be fun watching all the Vinfast shill-bots try to trash Kyle and Francie in the comments of every video for the next 3 years.
Francie faffing around with that second cable was a classic. VinFast selling a car to OOS was probably their worst PR decision ever made. VinFast life appears to suck! I'll stick with Tesla.
55:43 Funny I had the same reaction when I read what car you bought in the title. The car looks great, it's everything else that gives me that reaction.😂😂😂
You changed your mind, so did I. I was actually the one who hit "dislike" when I saw the title of your previous video about VF8. But now I have become a subscriber to your channel. I think there will be many Vietnamese people who will do the same as me 😅
Don´t interupt here before she can reach to answer. Here voice is by the way more natural to listen to. Thanks for sharing
This experience is what (way too) many people think dealing with Tesla is like.
When in fact Tesla in general has a more pleasant and hassle-free buying experience than any other car company on the planet.
Bet Vinfast has a PR department 😢
There is never an end of early adopters not you guys but customers. They will leave to a new brand when one gets big. But that is funny it never ends.
Like android when Apple was the established phone.
Or Tesla and now rivian now vinfast
I bought a used lemon law Bolt, the cheapest EV money could buy last year. The current Vinfast lease deal is actually a third cheaper per month than my car. For a brand new pretty big EV SUV stickered at nearly 50 grand, that's an insane deal, even if the car is mediocre at best. I'd have taken the chance on it for sure.
The golden rule don't buy first year car. There always problems first year and maybe second year. Wait til a least 3 years. EVGO sucks. the broken chargers need to be fixed ASAP
Been watching your videos for years. Either Frank pumping some iron or car is so dull I am paying more attention to Franks curves more than car.
“Keep an eye on the car, I’ll keep an eye on the charger.”
Keeps eye on car.
What a lemon VF8!
I would first drive the first hour in inner city streets to make sure the steering wheel won't come off. You guys went for the freaking freeway
More Francie videos!
When the English singer Craig David wrote the song "7 days" who knew he was talking about the VinFast buying experience!! 😆
What happened to Francie's Rivian that she ordered?
Yeah buddy you took it to them instead of them paying you and giving you meals you decided to give them money instead! Ha take that man! Wait what? lol. All seriousness good to do it this way.
Looking forward to all the videos that will be coming.
The lease deal seems great... But $46K for this car???? why would you not just get a Model Y? or ID4.
Is it me or does the VF8 have a close resemblance to the 2015 Lincoln MKX ?
It does!
How is the selling experience of a used Vinfast?
My experience with Electricfied America is to avoid the 350 KW chargers. I own Ford lighting, it to is internally limited to about 150 KWs. The sometimes the 350 KW chargers work and I see a charge rate of about 162KWs. Other times they limit me to about 67 KWs. Their 150 KW chargers are more dependable, and I see an average charge rate of about 123 KWs.
By the way, the key fobs were to close the vehicle to test if the doors were locked or not. Almost every vehicle sold today would have reacted the same way this vehicle did, including my Ford.
Too close to the vehicle? I think not. Where is the receive antenna? You are not going to overload the front end of a receiver at those power levels.
How is service going to be handled in Memphis? Does Vinfast have a plan outside of the Raleigh area?
VinFast SAYS it will have mobile service, after the Tesla business model
@harriettanthony7352 The check is in the mail. They will call you after the Summer. They will respect you in the morning. They'll just put the head in. Und so weiter.
Vinfast, reaffirming that the only good thing coming out of Vietnam is Pho and Bhan Mi.....
Thing is you can live without whatever Pho is here in the USA, and never miss it.
This reminds me of the story about George Clooney leaving a voicemail about problems with his Tesla. On a different topic we have lots of information about Tesla hardware but we know very little about the software.
Sooo.., the earlier today shot in the Tesla you have that bag covering a camera right? lol
⚠ i love PHO! but, i wouldn't buy a Vinfast! I love lasagna. But, i wouldn't buy any Italian POS! I love fish n chips..but, won' buy..
VF8 48K, Model Y 43K, so which one do you choose?
Have you ever driven it?
@@gocnhinvutru yes I do driving Model Y. But 48K and 43K model Y which one you choose? Just that simple, is that okay?
@@gocnhinvutru what is the range of VF8 48K? Model Y RWD is 455 Km. How about VF8? Before driving a car, you should confirm the information you have first. If you can't accept the information, you won't go for the next step
yes, of course, it is hard to accept a new car brand with that price. Not like Huyndai or Kia did before. But they will dubut some cheaper models. I just wana say please drive it before compare. If you only like Tesla, EV6, Ioniq, Bz4x, then not thing I ca comment more@@Honest888-e4g
I’m rooting for Vinfast because they are setting up manufacturing here in the US, but they priced this way too high😭. Why would I buy this over the Model Y, VW ID4, Kia Ev6, etc when it’s the same price or even higher….also they need to convert to NACS!
They should pay you to buy it back so you will stop showing people how crappy it is.
Amen!
No one would vandalize charging stations surely.
Tesla better be getting any better idea that Vinfast has come up and intergrate them fast unlike the old GM.
You are brave to buy this car.
Bravo, Pho!
Ignorance is BLISS, sometime!!!
Looking forward to this one if you have any problems where will you take it to get it service
Very excited to follow along!
The steering wheel airbag also the one from the mini definitely have an in with the bmw suplliers
Mad respects for buying the car. In a world of auto-influencers that go by wined & dined by companies, that's really something!
Thumbs up. Kyle sticks to the bare ass, butt naked truth as he sees it..
The car is a definitely a write off for him. 😂
I really doubt he buys any of the cars he uses for videos…
@@stevemcgowen it looks an awful lot like one that gets passed around Canada 😂
It’s great that he got the car for her, but he didn’t buy the car. He leased it which is a rental agreement unless it’s a „finance lease“ which is uncommon.
I think Vietnam is making the right move at this time to invest in EVs.
I guess they will have time to iron out the flaws and become a respectable player in the long run. If they had to compete at making ICE, they probably wouldn't be able to win globally. Ev's aren't easy, but they are a lot easier than ICE.
Hey Francie... I enjoy your sense of humour. Don't ever lose it.
I have a feeling with this vehicle you may need it ... often.
Best of luck.
39:43 The number of factors required for Kyle to not be familiar with Nancy Drew but be able to reference Encyclopedia Brown yet still somehow confuse him with Curious George is actually impressive
Underrated comment.
“Curious George doesn’t solve mysteries he’s just a funny monkey”. -Francie 2024 best of year winner
No cap! Bussin!
There are some deep profound issues here. I require time to process.... ROFL
Only owners tell true reviews. Driving short time won’t tell the whole story
Exactly
He'll make story .trust me . why he try so bad to buy a car that they don't want to deliver ????
@@chungloankenny Because he MUST TAKE the cross-country trip to San-Francisco and he stayed FOUR days in SC even though he was promised by the dealer that he gets the car on Thursday, then it becomes Friday, then Saturday, then Monday and still not ready. What kind of dealer does thing like that? Your ears were punched when you were young so you can't understand human's explanation?
Give him a month to drive the car. There will be plenty of news, i'm afraid it will be bad news like others buyers in Vietnam. I'm sure.
A cross country trip won't tell the whole story? What counts as a "true" owner? Not leasing the car? Weird statement to make with little to no merit as to what a "True" anything is.
I like how Francie is genuinely happy about getting a new car to drive and so appreciative.
For how long?
Kyle does not want to be caught dead in the Vinfast. So…. Francie gets to drive it. Lol!
That's so messed up what he did to Francie
#guineapig
I don’t blame him. Too me it denotes a fleet car image!
@@JonathanRootD #hazing
@@JonathanRootDFrancie deserves to be treated so much better than this. Sticking her with an unproven vehicle with known reliability problems for a long roadtrip home. That's a real loser move, Kyle. That's not hazing, that's endangerment.
I hope it works out for Francie! LOL Nancy Drew, come on Kyle!
Not a big fan either….. can’t read
Francie has such a great personality. She is a great addition to Out of Spec.
Totally agree, she's great. Hope the Vinfast experience isn't too bad for her!
Yes, she is great
Where's Melissa?
@@femolevsky Who?
Kyle is clearly trying to make Francie quit by lumbering her with the VinFast! :D
Imma watch the hell out of Francie’s VinFast videos.
I really like that green! I wish that more manufacturers had green as an option.
Kia has an amazing green they are stingy with. We'd love a EV6 in that Kia green.
Yeah! The color is awesome
British racing green!
Porsche has some great greens as well. Irish, British Racing Green, Fjord Green, Ice green, Oak green metallic etc. soo good!
Green ages the worst of all colors. Think 80s forest green 90s teal green 00s dark green 10s lime green. Silver is the best for age. Put a silver beside a green car of any era and the silver car will look newer.
For whatever weird reason I’m more excited about this series than any of your other recent videos. OK I was probably more excited for the cyber truck stuff but other than that one this seems super interesting.
So do you get the VIN fast when you purchase your VinFast? 🤣
Looks like it, we saw it on the Monroney window sticker you showed us🙂
It tells you the VIN, all the time, by loudly beeping it at you in morse code. Some reviewers incorrectly said those were "warning beeps," but actually it is a feature so that you never forget the VIN. EVER.
@@roadfordays 🤣
you're a VINNER then, same as when you vote for Trump!
although tis a commie car, but these commies hate China so they are friends now
Dude! I’m 25 minutes into the video and still listening to a rant that could have been covered in 5.
I've really been looking forward to this. Good luck, Francie!
Francie has mentioned in the past she wants a BMW EV. This will be quite a contrast.
hey, you guide good. if I am review this car..... you can hear a lot of FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFF PHO-FRANKYYYYYYYY---- 3/10 IS STILL TOO HIGH.... - I WILL GIVE IT -3/10 CAR FOR FREE i AM STILL DON'T WANT IT.
@40:00
“She solves mysteries!” “Oh like the little dude in the yellow jacket? Curious George!”
Had me roooollin 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not me thinking he was gonna say Hardy boys. Mf said curious George 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Insert rock.
Yehehe
Well....this video made up my mind! Thank you for an honest review!