We Drove America’s Worst Reviewed Car Again
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
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We drove the Vinfast VF8 to see if it's still the worst car for sale in America.
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Respect to donut for giving the new company props and now doing this to make sure people don’t just assume the worst from the first video. A classy move they didn’t have to do.
People don't assume the worst from "the first video", people assume the worst because VinFast is a terrible company that tries to bully people into giving them good reviews. There's a reason why every major auto publication destroyed the car/brand in every review you could find.
Oh, they HAD to do it.
Reviews are huge and if they don't address the issues they're doomed.
The fact that they're listening and actively addressing, and reaching out to the reviewers, is a huge leap forward for manufacturers of... well... anything, admittedly.
My father was an engineer and he would often write to manufacturers about some products, and even offered design changes. On a couple of occasions the companies actually listened and either adopted the suggested changes or similar alterations. OFC, my father never received any recompense other than a few free 'updated' products to get his feedback.
@@amzarnacht6710Vinfast had to, Donut didn’t.
Why do people think Vinfast fixed these issues because Donut reviewed it?
@@Florida_Fishing_Is_Supreme They may not have, but the review was among others and complaints youtube couch potatoes did not see. Such corrections were probably already on the table and the company intelligently reached out to public reviewers to make their updates visible, to quell some of the negative impressions.
I have to give them major props 4 responding with solutions.
it's still way overpriced for what it is. the ioniq comes with 7 year warranty and way more stock features. plus, it's from a reputable brand with nationwide dealership support and a 15 year parts availability. AND IT'S $11K LESS!
@@StanleyKubick1 I wouldn't really call hyundai "reputable"
@@smmsak15 Reputable is probably a poor choice in words. Maybe “More well known?” Which helps you know for sure what you’ll get.
@@StanleyKubick1yah. Model y performance is $52k
Still overpriced as hell, you have to be crazy to buy it and watch it lose value like crazy. Buy the car that will hold some value if you got a budget like that.
My mates and I were just talking about how most industries are following the modern gaming route:
- Get a product out as early as possible to please investors
- The 'early adopters' become guinea pigs
- Updates are rolled out as the product get's ironed out
This is the modern world of everything being online and competition being fiercer than ever. Most people should really avoid the earliest releases of tech and wait for positive reports or significant patches.
This is aboutely not true and claiming ''most industries'' do this is just a blatant lie. The overwhelming majority of consumer products have gone through several rounds of quality assurance testing before they touch the market.
@@kilojoule11 Most software reliant industries are following suit. It obviously doesn't apply to anything else. Can't tell you anything I've owned with software that hasn't required an update with bug fixes, in the last 10 years. The earliest radiation therapy machines were released with software bugs, and killed many people because they cut corners, but go on about these quality assurance tests meaning anything, even in fields that hold peoples lifes in their hands.
@@kilojoule11OP should have said the tech industry and industries that primarily use technological innovation. Especially when it comes to markets where the consumers are businesses/government. It may not be the most prevalent in general consumer markets (aside from the obvious, gaming,) but its still a MAJOR issue that can have some really bad fallout if the product isnt up to snuff.
(Example: government forces civil engineering department to implement new third-party software to organize projects only for the software to literally delete all of the local and cloud storage for a project. Really happened, a 60 million dollar project just gone. All documentation, everything.)
You would be correct if it wasn't for competition not being that fierce for the most part. Most companies that are doing this are companies that have been around for a long time that have established customer bases. What I'd really love is to see statistics on selling something quickly as opposed to selling something finished.
Being an early tech adopter/essentially a beta teater is one thing. I’d be willing to check out some crazy new phone tech if it was interesting enough however for my vehicle absolutely not lol. Give me something time tested from a reputable manufacturer, not paying north of $50k to beta test nothin 😂
I owned an ID 4 2022 (I like it!) and just test drove a VF9 of my friend in early Feb 2024. I'd say they're pretty good (like 8/10 and better than my expectation) and my friend said they will keep improving/updating as that's their mentality. Maybe wait for a few years to purchase if you're not in hurry
Thanks. From to Vietnam
A subscription based, $2500 mattress cover is the last thing anyone needs. Some sponsors should just be told to go pound sand.
That’s how much that thing cost, holy hell. And it’s subscription based, wtf
unreal.
Absolutely floored by this product... There's no way people have this
Good catch
The Hacksmith has been pushing this thing for years. It's cool in theory, but holy muffins that price tag. Things need to stop being subscription based fr
aye respect to a car company that actually wants to improve
Not hard to improve when you're already at the bottom. A ride so shitty, it's not difficult to improve with 10% stiffer springs and 10% dampers with better rebounding and compression. But it'll still be shit. You can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.
Lol respect to a communist company? You serious?
I mean they could be like american car companies and not give a fuck. @@DroneStrike1776
...its a car company not the entire country@@chan6565
@@chan6565what’s wrong with that?
I own a Vinfast VF9 in Vietnam now. I'm happy with the improvements of Vinfast in the update of software and replace the error equipment in the car. The price to buy a car in Vietnam is not cheap, but we are willing to give them a chance to serve us. Most Vinfast VF9's owners are happy with our choice.
Just came from a trip to Ho Chih Minh, VN a few weeks ago. Can confirm, this brand is everywhere there.
Because there is a huge imported tax for EV cars other than Vinfast😅
@@willykingston of course, VN Gov need to support VN company
@@viethuy6950
True but you miss a point. VinFast is primarily an electric vehicle manufacturer, but a significant portion of their cars are operated by the taxi company Xanh SM, which is also owned by Vingroup. This business model allows Vingroup to profit from the taxi industry while promoting their electric cars and motobikes. Customers are smart. Supporting a domestic brand is great, but functionality and affordability are key for Vietnamese car buyers.
@@willykingstonI mean america is doing the same thing with the chicken tax and harley tax
So fair enough I guess
The company also has a taxi line that uses Tiffany blue Vinfast in the city, its also pretty affordable for Vietnamese as well
The most important question is whether or not this unit was made for press. Press units vs off-the-lot units are often wildly different. It's why Consumer Reports doesn't use press units. They buy from dealerships.
Gm did that with the vega
I mean I could buy them making sure their press cars have the best possible fit and finish on the parts. I don't think it would make sense for the things they talked about in this video, software and suspension parts, to be different from the production models.
Seems weird how the car was garbage last time and it’s good now after donut got a big paycheck.
@@clumsygarage1578it's literally not possible to make all of the updates they demonstrated if the vehicle is already in production. Either it's a press vehicle or it's a pre-production unit and they're using it for development. If it's a press car this would be BAD news.
@@Hawk7886 you mean software updates are impossible?
To be fair, for a five year old company it’s really impressive that they were able to fix most of the problems of the first car in that short amount of time.
It would only be impressive if they did it behind the scenes during validation. The fact they released an unsafe product and let unsuspecting consumers validate it is flat out inexcusable.
@@joek.8247 What is really more inexcusable is Tesla releasing a Beta level truck to new owners. I saw recent reports that is that it's letting water through into storage compartments.
1000% agreed
The car is still very flawed. Even Tesla, who is known for releasing unfinished products, builds much better "new" cars. The VF8 is clearly an unfinished design both in software and hardware. I mean, just look at how heavy the car is. Most EV's in the same size class are around 4,400lbs. The VF8 is a hefty 5,700lbs!
@@joek.8247 being the first car company in their country is already pretty incredible. Designing and mass producing a modern car requires an enormous amount of resources & institutional knowledge as well as creation of supply chains and sourcing myriad types of skilled labor. That's pretty tough if your country doesn't have a domestic car industry.
Maybe it's not a perfect car yet, but the way they reacted to the feedback they were given the first time around gives me hope for what VinFast can be.
I respect the hell out of them taking in the feedback and trying to do their best to fix it
Honestly it's nice to see how fast they responded to this.
I have a good friend who used to work chassis division for various companies, this was his usual process...
They would actually purchase 2 or more vehicles that they wanted their car to be like. They would reverse engineer the things they loved about the vehicle they purchased. IDK what the VINFAST's process is, but it seems like they're starting from the ground-up.
I'd recommend to VINFAST that they try reverse-engineering cars that they'd like to compare to. NOT to a point of ripping it off, but to see why their ride feels so much more different... Sometimes it's something as dumb as just a different supplier for suspension parts.
Keep it up Vinfast. It's not an easy market to break into.
Electric cars are just another way for the globalist. Billionaires to take away your rights and freedoms. They hate that gas gives you autonomy. They want you to connect it to the grid. They want you to have cameras and microphones around you at all times so they can basically spy on you and monitor what you’re doing and what you’re saying at all times every electric car is a spy, mobile covered in cameras and everywhere you drive it’s recorded everything you say in your car is recorded and given to the government why on earth when anybody want that? Plus at best you get 10 years out of your car before you have to buy a new battery pack and that’s if you barely drive it if you’re someone who actually drives your car every day you might only get 3 to 5 years before you need a new battery pack, which is the price of a new car basically, why would you want that?
When Jerry said he is getting old in the ad i thought he was leaving Donut. I almost had a heart attack.
When he was super new to the channel I might have given him a bit of hate, mostly cuz I just like the hosts already and was just not welcoming. Nowadays I'd also have a heart attack if he announces his departure.
Sorry Jer Bear! You're cool as fudge!!
I was just kinda annoyed he said he was getting old when he's 10 years younger than me 😢
@@FaintAcrobathe’s actually 35-45, he’s just goofy
Then he said he is 25... i thought he was at least 30... o.o
I prefer the guy from science garage so i dont mind if jerry leaves cuz i never understand shit he says and his jokes kinda comes off as cringe
Just came back from back to back Vinvast VF8/Tesla Y test drives. Surprisingly, other than the very slight delay in throttle/pedal(0.2s maybe), driving experience and ride quality are quite comparable. And surprisingly, I got only speed limit and lane departure alerts during the 20 min VF8 test drive, both of which CAN be turned off. VF8 feels more like traditional cars, sure, the gear shift is a bit weird looking compared to Tesla's, and parking assistant grid is less refined on LED screen compared to Tesla, I actually gave VF8 a solid 7.5 overall compare to Tesla 8, but the fact Vinfast fixed so many software issues so quickly deserves some credits. Currently in Canada Tesla has 6.09% on 48 month lease while Vinfast is 2.99%@48 months. I am still a bit away from making a decision but right now considering services/warranty/rates/experience, I can't say that even with Tesla's reputation/history, it's a clearly winner compared to relatively unkonwn Vinfast. I'd say give it a test drive yourself if you can instead of solely relying on other people's feedbacks.
i like this comment, it's very good compare
I am more to Tesla since recently their accident occurred which caused lost of lives entire family riding VINFAST due to speeding in residential area after attending a party and pple speculate it’s due to lost of control and electric malfunction/lithium which is known for this type of car.I am still on gas pedaling cars.Talking about of environment /air quality what about Lithium (toxic) disposal?
How about if they run out of Lithium when times comes everywhere is EV.
If you can't afford a car almost in full, you should be buying a cheap beater.
People are so stupid nowadays. Auto loans just steal your money. You lose money on your auto since it depreciates, then you pay interest on your depreciated asset.
😂
I’ve watched the blindspot section like 3 times and it almost looks like the blind spot monitor- monitors ONLY the blind spot. It seemingly doesn’t light up if the vehicle is within sight of the mirrors or looking without turning back. Saving you from having to turn all the way to check the blind spot but not spanning the entire side of vehicle. Excited to see how many of these make to the roads of the Midwest.
Honestly respect to Vinfast for taking in the feedback and responding with solutions
holy shit. In their home country, anyone who dares to review badly about them will be bullied or even investigated by the police as a criminal. In the US, this mafia company acts like a nice guy. So fucking deluding company!
There's still issues though. If you check out of spec reviews they just bought one (which was a hassle) and it's been acting weird already 😂
@@powrich12my Teslas still have issues and they have been doing this since 2012. Tuning takes time.
@@Epitin I never said it didn't. Just saying I'd never buy a vinfast.
@@powrich12 even as a Viet, I wouldnt buy it either
It's commendable to see Vinfast addressing the issues and taking feedback seriously. However, it still seems like there's room for improvement, especially considering the price point. It needs a unique identity to truly compete.
As I aware, selling price is much less then 52K$. Leased price for VF8 2023 is now just from 249$/month with zero down payment
Are you using ChatGPT to summarize the video? Cause this comment reads like ChatGPT summarizing the video. And of course since you have a checkmark you'll get likes anyways.
For $53,000, it doesn't even drive better than my 2019 Mazda3 AWD hatchback for half the price. That's $26,500 I saved for gas. 30mpg combined, 35-36hwy, that's plenty of mileage to cover in a car that's way more reliable. 2nd most reliable brand in 2019. The VF is a gimmick trying to be a car.
@@dobfhometv3275that's because no one is buying them.
Besides the Miata and the RX, Mazda is pretty lame though. Feels like a brand made for feminists.
To be fair, Vinfast has a lot of potential to improve and grow. They did an excellent job in manufacturing gasoline cars for the Vietnamese market and have a pretty good reputation. Even some Vinfast was in the VIP motorcade when Joe Biden visited Vietnam last year. But in my opinion, the 53k$ price tag is a bit too much for the American market. 45k$ is the best suited price range for the VF8. But there are some reasons for the high prices. Taxes, import fee for some high tech stuff, shipping from Vietnam to the US,.....But i think when Vinfast comes into serial production in the North Carolina factory then the price will be reduced for the US market consumers. Still, respect for Vinfast🇻🇳🇻🇳
Hello from Taiwan. Yet it is still a communist dictatorship country, why should we trust them again? Is it not enough with North corea, China, Venezuela, Russia???
Do you believe in cars made in a country that has no basis for car manufacturing? The brand is from Vietnam, but the components inside are all made in China.
@@user-xh4cl1je8d even tesla uses chinese batteries so why not eh?
China is still the biggest electric car battery manufacturer bro, but vf is also tryin to create their own battery, 100% made in Vietnam🔥
@@user-xh4cl1je8d When we finally can made car after so much time of researching, you just said that it from China? Come on man, we are trying
The Dodge Neon had significant suspension problems when it first came out. Dodge benchmarked the Honda Civic, but by doing so they made the rear suspension WAY too soft and it would bottom out frequently. Dodge quickly recalibrated the suspension and improve it the next model year. Vinfast has improved in a very short time which is great. Keep going.
Plot twist: Vinfast forgot to do consumer testing so they're just making changes and sending it to donut on a monthly basis
the US market is probably very far off from the vietnamese one (pretty bumpy & dusty roads with motorbikes everywhere left and right, you better never change lane unannounced and you need extra blinkers on the sides...). Also that's the explanation behind the price; here in Vietnam imported cars are more expensive, making the Vinfast EVs somewhat competitive in the domestic market. And I swear that even with that price, there are plenty of new riches from the newborn middle-class who are all for the pride of a national domestic brand
Vinfast might actually be abusing RUclipsrs for free Quality Controls 😂😂😂
@@something3194As an American, I'd like to support Vietnamese homegrown exports and I'm in the market for an EV. But Vinfast's price point is at the upper end of my price range - higher, really. I'd like a basic EV, good mechanical/electrical design, OK styling, minimal tech frills at a mass consumer price. Pushbutton controls for the basics with no dependence on a big touchscreen display to drive. The touchscreen can be there, but I'd still better be able to get home even if the screen is smashed by careless passenger trying to stow their tennis racket or whatever.
@@SansNeural it's fine, no hurry; when the electricity will be green in both countries maybe this can make any sense
@@SansNeurali think You should wait for Vinfast VF5,6,7 or VF3 in the future
Almost had a head on collision in a Golf 6 rental car that, with my full force turning the wheel, would not let me get back unto my lane on a country road. Option to turn this of was hidden deep inside the menus of the infotainment system. Never drove a car with lane assist before. No one at the rental dealer told us this.
All the electronic safety stuff is absolutely worthless. If you cant drive safely without it you shouldnt have a license imo. That stuff is dangerous.
Electric cars are worthless.
Drove a few car with land keeping or centring assist feature on Subaru and Toyota. Both don't have this problem. And they both have a button on the steering wheel can quickly switch it on and off. I don't think this safety features are worthless. It had safer me from hitting wild animals and it makes change lane easily on a busy highway as well.
@@123123boobiesnot blaming you, but it does help to read the user manual in a new car you’re unfamiliar with, at least a quick glance at the controls and such
@@123123boobies They have lot of lessons to learn from the aviation world more like. Operator assist is the only way to achieve higher vehicle safety standards, but you're right that blindly taking away controls is a bad idea.
Yoo hats off to the manufacturer and Donut for doing it again, it goes to show they listen to customers ❤
9:04 it's actually an image of a VF7, which is available for Vietnam market recently. Since it has a mostly similar engine, platform, suspension to VF8 and a smaller size, a lighter body; the driving experience and performance seems to be improved. Will be an interesting comparison to the model Y then.
It's primarily developed for the Vietnamese market, where a Tesla costs 200% more than USDM. And seeing as it's been developed in Vietnam, it's probably much harder to develop the blind spot detection software because of the chaotic traffic and road layouts in the cities. Lots of motorcycles lane splitting and no highway in city centre. Perfect car for Hanoi or Saigon, they need electric cars and cleaner air more than ever.
Your information is way off. It was NOT developed in Vietnam for Vietnamese market. It was developed by the Chinese to Sell to US market.
@@poolbum BS
@@poolbum poor information
@@poolbum Vinfast is part of a huge Vietnamese conglomerate. China has its own EV industry, they'd rather sell their own cars than develop a new brand in Vietnam. Vietnam barely had an automotive industry and most Vietnamese drove motorcycles because of high import taxes on cars so Vinfast was founded to develop a domestic brand.
@@poolbumlmao what crack are you on
I give em props for being a company that fixes issues though that somthing most companies are missing
I own a Vinfast VF8. I watched this video before I purchased one. I took everyone of the complaints and didn't find one when I went for a second test drive. I don't regret buying one.
Thanks 🙏
How much did you pay for it?
Where do you live? Curious what you paid.
How much u paid
yea tell us man!
Man I love this channel! It’s one of the reasons I started my own channel! Keep it up guys and gals
What do you mean by started own channel ?
As a start up company, Vinfast listened to your reviews and worked seriously (in a short time) to fix almost errors. If they can make a totally new car (and they are building a factory in North Carolina and want to sell cars globally), I trust they will continuously improve it. Look at the first generations of Tesla and Cybertruck now, there are still many problems to be fixed. Hope you guys can make the 3rd video to check the model of 2024/2025. I respect Vinfast's ambition and determination (a company from a war-torn country in the past) to enter high demanding markets like US and I wish them big success!
If you're honest with yourself, for the same price, no one is insane enough to pick Vinfast over Tesla. Vinfast is objectively worse in everyway.
@@weiyang88yeah why would anyone buy crappy ass cars like vinfast when it costs same as tesla lol
@@august4215 I mean if we are being completely honest, nobody should buy a Vinfast but you also absolutely shouldn't buy a Tesla. It may not be as bad as Vinfast but its like comparing shit and garbage. Teslas have the worst tech and worst driver assist in the industry bar none except for maybe Vinfast. Full Self Driving/Auto-Pilot is completely fake and made up and is just generic driver assist that is significantly worse than everyone else trying to do the same thing. Elon lied about FSD as badly as Elizabeth Holmes did Theranos's blood machine. He should be in prison with her for the comments he made to pump and dump the stock - saying things like we can do all this NOW when he knew none of the features existed. They just lied and said it could do stuff it couldn't. And there is no path forward for fixing it without firing Elon and starting over. Also, anyone who bought one in the last two years might as well put a sign in their back window that says "I am a proud Nazi which is why I bought a Tesla". Everyone that bought one before that isn't a Musk fanboy or a Nazi is likely desperately embarrassed and wants to get rid of it.
@@august4215because Teslas are pretty crappy as well. Plus I think the American market is more for the prestige. Most of these cars will be sold in Vietnam,China, Southeast Asia. Especially when the price comes down
@@MrJimheeren Cant be crappier than vinfast lol even rivian is better alternative than this vietnam junk
Major respect for them responding. Have you noticed how customer service is now designed to frustrate customers. The fact they responded is huge. And if I could buy a vehicle from an emerging economy I would. It's the best way to help a country less developed than Japan, China, USA. So the fact it's not up to par with legacy automakers is to be expected. If it gets a chance at all like I believe it will, that's huge and a big accomplishment. I'm a Production Engineer. Going into production for QC is way more difficult than any layman could comprehend. So good job to this company..
The chimes are probably needed for just how crazy the traffic in Vietnam is. but it would be even crazier in Vietnam,
Not really, most cars in southeast asia don't have monitoring features yet people don't constantly crash into eachother.
Nice job of being honest and giving props of how they fixed it. Hopefully they continue to improve, and will be there 100%.
I've got a '21 VW and its warning chimes are somewhat annoying, though it pops up a message on the dash as to what the chime was about - cold temp, lane assist.
The lane assist can be annoying as it alerts to 'keep in center of lane' when staying there, or when going through areas like construction where the lines have been removed but are still visible. It does have a bit of a pull if you drift or try to change lanes, but that is easily overcome and doesn't affect driving other than a slight need to put more pressure on steering where you want to go. Sometimes it doesn't turn off when using the turn signal when nothing's in the blind spot.
I’m surprised by VinFast’s marketing and sales strategies in the US, compared to Canada.
Up North, it is less expensive than an equivalent Hyundai Ioniq 5, Nissan Ariya, Subaru Solterra or Tesla Model Y (an AWD Model Y costs $10 000 more). It also has a stellar warranty, competitive finance and leasing deals and is available immediately (something that can’t be said for some rivals).
I have actually seen quite a few on the roads already, so their strategy seems to be paying off. But it’s odd that it isn’t replicated in the US.
Still, I have to say that I’m impressed by the improvements that VinFast carried out on the VF8, especially considering the timeframe!
Interesting, I'm assuming the price points have something to do with the costs associated with importing a car to Canada versus the US markets. As James and Nolan pointed out, the car seems like it is competitive in that slightly less expensive/less luxury range, so it's good to hear that they have a market where they're able to meet that price point.
@@susan_beaverImport duties seem to be lower in the US than in Canada (although this context is reversed for vehicles assembled in China), so it’s puzzling.
But the automotive press hasn’t been as harsh regarding VinFasts in Canada compared to the US and the company has been very active on social media and at auto shows, like the one that just took place in Montréal (they had the VF3, VF6, VF7, VF8, VF9 and a pickup concept displayed and accessible).
They are present in Canada’s 3 core markets (British Columbia, Ontario and Québec) with dealerships in the main metropolitan areas that are very receptive to EVs, too. Paired with more competitive pricing, all this helps!
I’m just interested to see how their new models will fare!
US has tariffs on Chinese and VN EVs. To protect Tesla.
May be they will provide 7500$ off at the dealership! Consumer will feel happy he got deal!
They're actually leasing these cheap, about $300, I saw somewhere, quite a bit less than a model Y.
I’ve had my VF8 since Sept 2023 and love it! VinFast has been really good about software updates and bug fixes too. And for those that still think the battery is under subscription: WRONG! They scrapped that program before the VF8 even became available to Canadian consumers.
I just love how much you guys have gotten out of the anime blast effects over the years, still fun somehow
Good for them! The car world can be too gatekeepy at times. New ideas from new places is something that should be celebrated. Same with companies owning their mistakes and quickly addressing them.
I drove by their dealership. They do have some nice looking vehicles.
Watch out for the BYD 4x4 suv is a dumpster fire, especially the weak frames bendable.
Worst car? It has V8 in the model name! How could it be bad???
Because it doesn't have one haha
An electric car with “v8” in its name is bad.
The brand also named vin fast. Vin diesel?? Fast and furious?? How could anyone hate this brand???
It’s electric “V8” engine
Lol
Given that 10-15 years ago almost no one in Vietnam owned a car at all(most things there were motorcycles/scooter based on the consumer level) this is a hell of an achievement and they’re improving really rapidly.
15 years wasnt that long ago and vietnam wasnt that poor. They have a bunch of taxes to prevent people from owning cars because they didn’t have the infrastructure to support a lot of cars. A $40k car in the US translates to $120k in Vietnam.
@@lucidgosu1492not infrastructure, but like china had little homegrown and both states despise the west.
Thailand is the same with car taxing. @@lucidgosu1492
Didn’t Top Gear drive across Vietnam on motorcycles?
yes but even back then there were cars
I’d like to see James and Nolan do a long term/reliability review of the Vinfast, if any issues come up.
I saw one on the way to work yesterday broke down on a trailer. You have no idea how much I laughed
Still, this is fully developed from an emerging development country, having them in the US shores is a great achievement already. BYD cars didn’t make it here or Dacia or Perodua or Luxgen. Kudos to my Vietnamese brothers!! Hope all these issues get fixed!
I'm tempted to agree, but it's not really a great achievement if "no one" buys them.
@@SansNeural tôi đồng ý. Vinfast cần thêm thời gian và nguồn lực tài chính.
I'm just concerned because they keep arresting anyone who criticized vinfast, and white people don't like cracking down on free sleech
The US is a second world country, it's just rich, I guess it's an achievement to get there just because of the market, but that price isn't even slightly competitive so not sure what the point is, if they were obviously trying to be the cheapest option and undercut everyone else this car would make sense
For other brands, they need sales, not like Vinfast, which imports Chinese components and assembles them then arrogantly brings them to the US. VF8 is full of errors and has to be used as a taxi in Vietnam.😅😅
Keep doing videos about Vinfast EVs, it would be really nice to see their improvement.
If a company willing to listen to criticisms and make their products better then they should be welcomed.
Oh no, vinfast is a company that only imports components from China for assembly, they do not own any technology, vf8 sells very poorly in Vietnam because of many errors, vinfast has to be used as a taxi.😅😅
@@vivuphuongnam😂 dốt nát
@@longphinguyen419 vinno😅😅
@@vivuphuongnam fake news, you always sabotage VF
@@vivuphuongnamDistorted information, individualistic thinking, poor understanding
I purchased the NFT a year or so back hoping for the VF9. Maybe it will hit the market here in the US soon. But I am concerned that I never own the battery and I can only lease the battery. That adds too much cost.
The fact that this is the worst reviewed car just shows how far cars have come. I mean that Yugo video really captured the essence of how far and how fast.
I am glad they were able to fix some of the major issues so quickly. I do however don't like the business model of selling cars that are not ready yet.
I have an Ioniq 5 and I purchased it after I saw many reviews on it and the fact it got Car and Driver EV of the year pretty much sealed the deal for me. And yeah, it is an excellent car and hasn't had any issues since I purchased it. If I had a car like the VinFast I would have given up on the brand and never purchased one again.
Props for asking for another review. And great job to Donut for coming back to this.
9:00 - the LEAF has an "Eco" mode that basically just dulls throttle response. It helps you stop lurching off the line, and ultimately extends range a few percent.
Honestly the amount of improvement is impressive. Big respect VF and good luck going forward 🏆🏆
For other brands, they need sales, not like Vinfast, which imports Chinese components and assembles them then arrogantly brings them to the US. VF8 is full of errors and has to be used as a taxi in Vietnam.😅😅
@@vivuphuongnam xe chạy taxi là xe lỗi à, phát biểu ngu vậy😂
@@nguyenminhtan4187 xe lỗi bán ế phải vác qua chạy taxi, ok.😅😅
@@vivuphuongnambắt được 1 con 3 dòng kẻ đang đi chống phá Việt Nam 😂
@@vivuphuongnam??? Xe lỗi mang đi taxi, tư duy đần độn gì đây
There are 3 things guarantee in life
1) Death
2) Taxes
3) *Donut destroying another engine*
Pretty cool that VinFast actually cares, and cool for Donut Media for participating.
In Vietnam, Vin Fast is gradually asserting its position. Vinfast has almost all product segments from vf3, vf5,6,7,8,9; Environmentally friendly buses. I have experienced taxis and electric buses and found it really progressive. Now suburban farmers seem to be showing that they are suitable for electric cars with a range of about 300km.
I like this car company, doing their best and listening to the audience! Not a lot of company’s do that!! 🎉
Go criticise the car in vietnam,or their fanpage, Im sure little pink (vf fan) will harrass, bully, insult you, even call police to punish you
For other brands, they need sales, not like Vinfast, which imports Chinese components and assembles them then arrogantly brings them to the US. VF8 is full of errors and has to be used as a taxi in Vietnam.😅
@@vivuphuongnam tây k hiểu rỏ về vinphet, củng k có youtuber vn nào làm video tiếng anh nói về cái xấu của vf để họ hiểu, cách tốt nhất cứ để họ mua trải nghiệm bị gì thì tập hợp lại đâm đơn kiện cho dễ 😆
@@vivuphuongnamI dont know why you spend so much time to day bad things about Vinfast but I’m a Vinfast user and I love all Vinfast products. They are beautiful and safe. I bet you are a Vietnam betrayer living in somewhere outside Vietnam. And you just understand nothing about my country
@@binhuc5122nó thoát chết trên biển nên nó đã mang theo oán hờn vậy đó mà
Tangible improvements are always great to see from a manufacturer, especially one that's so new like Vinfast. I hope they keep improving!
I’m not sure if this is still a deal they have but for a while Vinfast was offering a $0 lease and $249 a month on the vf8. I could put up with a lot for that price.
I was thinking “oh here we go, donut got bought for their opinion” however I am glad to see you gave an honest evaluation. There is a lot people on RUclips who can be bought.
Good to see they’re listening and working on it!
If you give bad review in VN you’re in trouble
@@samboh8096ha, honest reviews are always welcome, not the things that come from your dirty mind.
@@thinhxuan5918 tự hào quá Việt nam ơi !!!! 😂
@@samboh8096 k tự hào thái quá nhưng cũng không lan truyền những gì sai trái nhé bạn:)) khôn lên mũi để ngửi chứ không phải để dắt
@@samboh8096 chê có lý do và kiến thức khác với chê theo kiểu lan truyền thông tin sai nhé Deadass 💀
i live a couple miles away from their main factory and used to practice driving on the nearby expressway. they were still testing some models many months, even over a year after public release and sale, driving a couple at a time up and down the same expressway. old models with gas engines were sold for cheap to locals, while early electric models that didnt sell fast enough became taxis for a brand new sister company.
every car need to drive 5-10km for testing before ship.
Vietnamese here. If Vinfast's parent conglomerate Vingroup ever opens a gaming studio/publisher, it'd fit right in with the modern AAA scene with this business model
Jeramiah being 24 years old and having the knowledge and experience of a mechanic with that many years experience is insane. Fair play J!
He’s in his 30’s lol
I 100% thought he was almost 35 not 25. Lol
He's like 47-48. You can see the required disclosure in some sponsored segments.
Lol I legit been questioning my whole reality. I'm like damn I'm not shit as a 34 year old lol
He's not 24. It's a joke
The fact that you guys get upset about the car not allowing you to change lanes unless the blinker is on is so weird to me. In Denmark, all new cars with ACTIVE lane keeping assist will not allow you to change lanes unless you use the blinker. That is the default setting. Also - how else would the system know if the lane change was intentional or because of lack of attention, sleeping at the wheel or the likes?
You CAN change lanes without using the indicator, but it will require you to overcome the force put by the lane assist to keep you in lane. Can be done, but much easier if you just use the indicator. Which you are also required to do by law in almost any situation anyways.
VF8 lane keep assistant can do what you say. And it always active every unlock than driver can tweak if they dont want. Vf8 safety standard is for euro market
And besides you turn off most ADAS by stepping on the brake anyway, which is also absolutely needed when you want to dodge those obstacles
No. You got it wrong. Lane keeping should NOT yank me back if I actively change lanes while driving fast. Vf8 scares me to death many times
I drove this in December 2023 and I had zero complaints. I actually enjoyed it, and did not experience what you guys experienced.
It felt connected, the throttle response was a little delayed, however it wasn’t annoying or dangerous. I could live with it. Very comfortable, no chimes,
Ok vinfast bot
@@YangwanAuto LOL I’m obviously not a bot LOL. But sure whatever you say
@@YangwanAuto Oh so people comment their experience with their car is consider a "bot"?
Right, every single auto journalist who has ever driven it is just blatantly lying. That’s totally believable
@@ProjectCovenant In which sentence did the man said :"You journalists are fucking liars, my car felt great, therefore you're wrong"?
The “no lane change, without blinker” thing, is actually very common
Imagine an accident happens right in front of you or some other obstruction on the highway and when you go to switch lanes to avoid it your car stops you from doing that because you didn't have your blinker on and sends you head on into it lol
VF8 does NOT do that. It's like a magnet keeping you in lane if you let go of the wheel, but a magnet that any weakling can push past.
@@NoseyNick Oh, if it's like that then that's not too bad. Their first video on it made it seem like you would go to turn and the car would jerk you back into the lane unless you had a turn signal
Imagine if everyone drove without having their head up their kazoo, what a concept to be capable of using the turn signal in any situation.
@@craigfreeman9280 You've never been in an emergency situation?
@@craigfreeman9280 Ok bozo, keep feeling invincible until you are the one in that situation.
I am from Wales 🏴 and I am a huge fan of your channel, always great content. Keeps me entertained 🎉
Same here
Same! Cymru am byth
Actually, I'm very ok with requiring turn signals for lane changes. Furthermore, require turning on the headlights before shifting to drive at night.
I love how you use the Tesla reverse VESS sound as a censor bleep.
Just read the dude who commented on a follow up video for the Vinfast, boy was I in for a treat 😂
Just to mention VF8 has a substantial curb weight of 5.732 Ibs while the model Y only has 4.363 Ibs. For those two similar segment SUV, that 1369 Ibs gap really mean something. VF8 might not as quick as Model Y and also has less range but it supposed to be better in terms of build quality. And I believe heavier means safer for most cases.
“ heavier “ doesn’t translate to more safety. Vinfast were dead last on safety ranking under EuroNcap
@@minhnguyen-fr5zq Well to be honest I would rather sit in a "less safe Vinfast vehicle" than a 5 stars NCAP Daihatsu trash can.
And also if size and weight doesn't matter then a 5 stars NCAP Toyota Corolla is way safer than a 1 star NCAP Jeep Wrangler.
@@sontranxuan4587 let’s have a proper comments instead behaving like wild animals bashing other brand to justify. You are very toxic
Heavier is better ? are you sure
@@miennam2296chắc
There should be a documentary on the rise and fall of Hoonigan and Donut media… from producing some of the most badass car content on the internet to reviewing cheap Vietnamese cars and selling subscription based mattresses…
I think that company are doing pretty good, they are just starting out with barely any knowledge and money, went back and changed actual parts, I think that puts them higher on the board, hopefully they continue to improve
To be honest . They made a very very fast update to this vehicle . If they can keep quality high & find ways to improve their production of this platform then im very optimistic about the vietnamese auto industry
Oh no, vinfast is a company that only imports components from China for assembly, they do not own any technology, vf8 sells very poorly in Vietnam because of many errors, vinfast has to be used as a taxi.😂
Wow a manufacturer that listens to their audience. I wouldn't buy anything remotely similar to this car but I would be more than willing to support Vinfast in their future
You better listen when you're not selling any cars. No one is buying Vinfast. For $53,000, there's more reputable car brands, why would anyone even look at Vinfast?
@@DroneStrike1776 so...basically i shouldn't listen to you since there are more reliable suggestions in the market rather than giving 0 clue about your statement
@@hyperlesso5048 dude kinda proved my point in his “argument”
I mean, some other companies would just sue Donut or straight up block them from all media and pretend they don't exist. Fixing so much stuff in the car in about 5 months is pretty impressive
The lane switch resistance is a safety feature. Like lane drifting. Shouldn’t switch without using your blinker regardless. It’s a flaw. But a flaw on the driver. Makes that feature useless now. A bad driver would dislike that more than bad one who doesn’t.
It's crazy that they fixed most of the problems in such a short time
For other brands, they need sales, not like Vinfast, which imports Chinese components and assembles them then arrogantly brings them to the US. VF8 is full of errors and has to be used as a taxi in Vietnam.😅😅
@@vivuphuongnam chỉ có 3 que mới rảnh vậy thôi. đmm
@@vivuphuongnamashamed of the Vietnamese people like you. Vinfast is safer than most of Korean and Japanese cars in Vietnam. Have been proved by real accidents. And thousands of Vietnamese engineers are trying to improve their products
@@vivuphuongnam đúng là mắc cười cho con chó vện vàng, rảnh quá sao không kiếm j làm có ích hơn đi😂
@@binhuc5122 oh no, funny.😅😅
As a professional truck driver that watches all too many cars change lanes without turn signals I personally think a car that doesn't let you change lanes without using your turn signal is a wonderful idea. God forbid we obey the laws that make the road safer. You know what's dangerous changing lanes without using your turn signals Nolan.
Except when the manufacturer gets sued into oblivion because someone couldn’t veer into another lane in an emergency and gets in a wreck that could have been avoided.
Our town has been overrun with California drivers. I whole heartedly agree
great
Yes. This. Glad someone has some common sense.
You're right. When changing lanes, you must turn on the turn signal to ensure safety. This is a smart safety function that supports the driver. When the driver changes lanes but forgets to turn on the turn signal, the steering system becomes a bit stiff and the vehicle warns the driver to pay more attention.
"We fixed your car"
*Removes breaks*
*Mischievous laughing in the corner*
Glad you guys invested in the “anime transition VFX pack” 😊
Tôi đang sử dụng vf8 tại Việt Nam và chiếc xe của tôi là 1 trong những chiếc vf8 đầu tiên lăn bánh. Tôi nhận thấy càng sử dụng xe càng tốt hơn, sau mỗi bản cập nhật phần mềm xe vận hành trơn tru và thú vị hơn. Trước đó tôi đã từng sử dụng nhiều chiếc xe khác của các hãng Nhật Hàn Mỹ và tôi vẫn thấy VF8 tốt hơn. Nếu có góp ý thì tôi chỉ góp ý hãng nên điều chỉnh hệ thống treo 1 chút để mang lại trải nghiệm tốt hơn cho khách hàng, hệ thống treo hiện tại chưa tối ưu lắm nhưng với tôi vẫn khá oki.
I hope you’re able to translate this. It’s great to see what actual owners think of the car! As someone who hadn’t heard about Vinfast before (and isn’t available in my country) overly negative reviews aren’t all that helpful. It’s exiting to see the changes that they have made in such a short time!
@@nics9840 I am using vf8 in Vietnam and my car is one of the first vf8 to roll. I find that the more I use the car, the better it gets, with each software update the car operates more smoothly and more enjoyable. Before that I had used many other cars from Japanese, Korean and American brands and I still found the VF8 better. If I have any suggestions, I would only suggest that the company should adjust the suspension system a bit to bring a better experience to customers. The current suspension system is not very optimal but for me it is still quite ok.
HA HA HA HA really ???
@@nics9840huyhoangnguyen6994: I'm currently using VF8 in Vietnam, my car is one of the 1st gen (TL: the same gen with "the worst car ever reviewed in America"). After each update, the car becomes smother and more fun to drive. I'd drove cars from other brands before, still I found Vinfast better. The only problem I have is with the suspension as it needs to be tuned. Right now, the suspension system is not optimal, but I guess it's fine enough for me.
@@miennam2296guess so. EV can update the software like how computer update OS, so if anything went wrong by the software, it can easily be fixed without recalling to factories.
I wish more car companies would listen to the consumer like this.
It’s really impressive that Vinfast, a relatively new brand, already has the ability to rapidly fix and improve their products from customer feedback, which is something that a lot of legacy car manufacturers do not do unfortunately.
Hey, the fact they even responded and took steps to correct different areas of concern...IM IMPRESSED. Here is hoping for them to continue to get better (just look at Kia and Hyundai from back in the 80's)
It's excellent that Vinfast paid attention to Donut's feedback on the most recent test drive and made some adjustments in response. Since Vinfast is a new and developing EV manufacturer, they need make the most improvements possible to maintain their position and win over customers. However, pay attention to them once more this time. THE SUSPENSION
Both your videos (the old one and this one) are correct. I'm driving VF8 for almost 6 months. After few firmware upgrades and it's now more reliable and stable.
Thank you!
Did they replace the shocks and springs in yours?
@@m3chan1zr nope, I replaced it. They only do software update and also some recall to replace parts.
I give them respect for reaching out and trying to improve
I have one very major issue with every single electric vehicle I have seen reviewed. Every single thing is on that ridiculous and even dangerous screen in the middle of the dash. Get rid. Install a speedometer and a simple state of charge display in front of the driver. Get controls out of the screen and back to usable controls. Changing the heater settings should not require eyes off the road. Stereos should be stand alone with buttons and dials that can be operated by touch alone. The biggest two bugbears for me is first, electric operation of the door latches. Go back to mechanical. Second, get the computer out of headlamp and wiper operation. There is no need for the computer to be deciding whether headlights can be on or not. Don't claim computers are necessary for things like automatic headlamps. Ford offered automatic headlamps and automatic high beam control with fully manual operation if desired a full 50 years ago. The system worked and still does.
Random idea for the ad spot, they should have a graphic of a different donut car for the ad spot timer
I kinda think it’s hilarious that it won’t let you change lanes without using your blinker lmao, that would actually fix a lot of crappy driving and near misses I have to deal with on the road every day
BMW Driver Rehab Program
until theres a accident or hazard right in front of you and it drives you right into it
@@dirtrider88 Yep, until you strike a stopped vehicle/pedestrian, etc. because it doesn't "let" you turn the damn car. This kind of electronic nanny-crap is absolute garbage.
@@oskar6661 I think they should allow the driver to adjust the intensity according to their preference. But even the strongest setting should allow a lane change such as when trying to avoid an obstacle.
i wish the VF8 had a blueprint because i actually love the design
i love the fact that they blurred the license plate on the tesla but in 1 shot you can still see it at 7:51
I just got back from Vietnam and want to report Vinfast cars are EVERYWHERE in Saigon, seemed like about one out of ten cars on the road. I’d guess that pricing makes a lot more sense for the quality as it works out for their domestic sales.
In Vietnam rn Vinfast is the only EV that you should buy since it has a nation-wide charging network. And their price is competitively since they’re made in Vietnam.
Actually when they start to rolling out cars on the market, every other brands in Vietnam have to change alot, add more features to their car, better services… and it’s a good thing.
Everywhere in Saigon ??? Ha ha ha ha
@@miennam2296I guess it's not wrong, you just don't know 'bout it.
@@miennam2296he's not wrong although it's true that more than half of them have yellow license plate
I live in HCMC, and 'everywhere' is a lol. 80% Vin cars are Taxi vehicles by Vingroup. No one wants to buy Vin cars because petrol using cars and smart phones were a lesson learnt.
This is how companies SHOULD respond to criticism! Bravo Vinfast.
Should have complained about who owns their stock
Not really, if the Donut guys were in VN, they would have been jailed by the communist government (who are the homies of VinFast)
Oh no, vinfast is a company that only imports components from China for assembly, they do not own any technology, vf8 sells very poorly in Vietnam because of many errors, vinfast has to be used as a taxi.😅😅
@@vivuphuongnam You are a trash commenter. You copy/paste your comment 100 times here.
@@vivuphuongnam fake news, you always sabotage VF
You should be indicating when you turn and switch lanes anyway so the "lane assist" shouldn't be a problem for people who know how to drive
So nobody is talking about the plate blurring on the Tesla but at 7:52 you can also clearly see the plate 8WDB402 not blurred out
$42K and $52K are not in the same price range.
Maybe if you got that James money, but that's a 20% increase in price.
He’s got like 8 Bugattis
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YES IT IS. Options alone can literally make that much of a difference in a car purchase. It often becomes this car with options or this more expensive car with more standard features etc. Try using some brain cells before writing dumb comments which make it obvious you don't have a clue.
Tesla come with everything included. The comparison for this car would be the model Y long range@@cenciende9401
@@cenciende9401 Quit trying to act so smart, your entitled ass probably has never had to make a car payment, 10k extra can make a car payment go from payable to something that's taking all of your extra monthly income.
Dear Donut,
What happened to bringing my car back for a re-test? 😅
About pricing of 52k, that’s the top of the line Plus trim. Eco trim starts at 46k.
However, there’s a lease promotion going on now till end of this month 1/31/2024 with $250/month for Eco and $299/month for plus trim. That was why I picked up my second VF8.
For the record, my 1st VF8 reviewed by you guys was from the first 999 batch City Edition with annoying issues.
My second VF8 is the Standard long range edition which like you concluded a much better improvement over City Edition. 😊
VF does listen to complaints and acts quickly. Thank you for giving them a 2nd chance!
Cheers!
Hey Donut! Can you make a video about drag racing like it's history,rules,terms and rivalry. Thanks!❤