Harley Davidson Pan America Off Road Test Ride w/Jake the Garden Snake
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2022
- One of the coolest parts of this year's Get On ADV Fest was the opportunity to do an extended Harley Davidson Pan America off road test ride. We took the Harley Pan America up into the hills above the Mojave desert and rode around on gravel and sand for almost a full hour. This extended Pan America test ride was a fantastic experience, and I was continually impressed with how much off road testing we were allowed to do on these brand new adventure bikes.
My overall Harley Davidson Pan America review is a pretty positive one. I was continually impressed with the Pan American off road. It did everything I asked of it and more. It's a very comfortable and capable adventure motorcycle with a ton of amazing features like adaptive ride height and multiple ride modes. It was great to get the Pan Am out in the dirt and the sand and really get a feel for what it's like off road.
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Whenever I see one in stock at the dealer I don't have time for a test ride. I definitely want to see what all the hype is about. Awesome demo, Thanks!
Nice to finally see a test ride off road 👍🏻
I had a normal Harley but then rode a pan am and decided that’s the bike for me and bought one that day. Super fun bike in a bunch of different environments
Happy to hear you're enjoying it!
@@DorkintheRoad thank you! Can’t wait to see more content on your Norden
You made it look easy on the two track, what a good ride!!!
That looks like a blast!
What a great place for a ride, looking forward to giving that bike a try 👍
i think that concrete "Road" up on the mountain side is actually a covered aqueduct. i've seen similiar situation in southern california near the sierra nevada mountains on another motorcycle channel. plus you passed several manhole cover mounds on the way up. my guess is that's why that road was cut in in the first place.
Since it's their first attempt to do this kind of bike,I think they did a great job.
I've drove the Pan America and I was quite surprised!🤘🤘🤘
Never test rode one. I would defiantly like to do one day. And, what a great location to do test ride, normally demo ride will take only small section of dirt / gravel. Seems very capable machine. Great video.
Nice Video!
Sometime your line chooses itself-Yes it does, and woe be unto those who try to fight it. I’d like to see one of these Dirt Glides in person. All the shops near me sell out too fast. Thanks for the video!
Cool !
So cool !! Did the street ride at Tourtech and banged second in sport mode and the front wheel left the ground too ! They really do need to look into that :)
So, this review should be titled "Harley Davidson Pan America Special Off Road Test Ride w/Jake the Garden Snake" That is a $4K difference, omitting one word. Won't nitpick about the included "options". Options like laced wheels, etc. That you pay extra for.
The heated everything, the plush everything, Harley aimed at the R1250GS for Plush, but they didn't hit the mark, nor the tough as hell rep that the BMW has earned, but they did match the price tag.
However, the lowering, only on the Special, IS interesting. It might make the Pan America Special a gateway bike to the BMW, once you learn to ride a taller bike and no longer need the crutch of a seat that lowers when you stop. Except no one will by your used Pan America at anything near a foot in the door for the R1250GS. First owner Pan America's don't sell until the price drops below 30%. Even with milage below 2K miles.
It has torque and HP near the BMW. Ground clearance. Suspension travel.
Harley hit a nitch that no one wants to fill. No cruiser rider wants it. ADV people that want to be outrider Harley folks are very few. Trying to hang at Sturgis as a Pan America rider is like "Nice. You tried and failed. Come back next year with a real Harley. And don't park near my bike."
So, for the same price, you can buy a brand. BMW is well respected in the ADV world. Harley is well respected in the Cruiser world. An ADV in the Harley world is not respected. And it's just not that great at its price point. And many dealers can't even work on them properly. And the stock, plain, Pan America sux.
Sorry for the spew, it is just that this bike has been a pain in our rear end since it came out. People keep coming to us, hoping we can work on it, since the only dealer that works on them is four hundred miles away, and it's just not friendly to wrenching. Not that the BMW is friendly, but parts are readily available.
I ride a 600lbs V-Strom 1000 and I only really notice its weight when I've dropped it. But the ground clearance and suspension travel are foremost in my mind as I ride.
The 2023 V-Strom 1050DE, compared to my 2018 1000XT, has an additional one inch of ground clearance and four additional inches of suspension travel AND comes with a twenty-one-inch front tire at nearly half the price tag of the loaded Pan America Special, with options.
Lol
I like mine. It is more capable off road then I am at this point. I have the stock tires on it know and they are awful on dirt and sand. So far only one problem is the lower radiator hose is not in the correct location. Which is a bummer since it was supposed to be solved in the 2021 model. My 2022 and several others are having issues as well. Being an owner of one I watch the blogs and forums. A small percentage are having major problems, others like me minor. My friend has a 2021 one of the first. Had 2 warranty problems. Since they have been fixed no problems.
You are definitely my internet riding buddy. You are the only other person I know that thinks it looks like a Cylon.
I test rode a standard edition as soon as it hit the local dealer. On pavement the throttle had no problem scaring the crap out of me. It also seemed competent on the 5 kms of gravel forest service road I took it on.
I only test rode it out of pandemic boredom, and I expected to hate it. Except for the neutral to first gear thunk, it was very un-Harley like in feel and sound. For that type of bike, it didn's suck at all. And I am NOT into big bikes, even for the street.
For competitor bikes, in addition to the GSA and Tiger 1200, I would list the Ducati multistradas. 19/17 set ups, crapload of power and technology, and steep pricing.
Looks like you had fun!
At 6:45, thats the L.A. aqueduct, supplying Los Angeles with its water. In Jawbone it was in those big pipes you saw.
Good review. You going to be doing any winter camping?
Was Justin there with Harley? Good guy and the whole crew. Glad to see you’re getting a nice long ride.
HD should demonstrate riding in other locations. Not everyone lives in Western US and get to experience such wide open riding areas. I'd like to see the bike on the East coast. The TAT and MABDR come to mind.
I like the test rides, but would like more how to videos.
He's not a Mason's ADV or an Awesome Players aircraft mechanic. He pays people to add his farkles. I suspect he can change his own oil.
My Pan America only made it 3 months before it started having mechanical issues. Intake manifold gasket started leaking and now a problem with the variable valve system. I love the bike but hate the poor reliability.
My Pan America Special was a great bike until the engine blew at almost 5k exactly. Then after Harley replaced the motor, it was never right again, plagued with electrical issues. Hopefully, they have figured out the problems. Great bike on the Highway, not really built well enough for off-road. I have owned both Pan America Special and a BMW GSA, no comparison.
That’s a drag but something I’ve wondered about. Feel the same about the GSA. Rode both in Sturgis 2020 with a longer ride on the GSA. Felt perfect to me but very limited experience.
It's not built for off road??? Maybe you can't ride it off road. Way to much information out there to counter your opinion.
Sucks you had problems with yours, I love mine, it's been solid.
@@grayghost1423 Yeah, you are probably right. Unfortunately, I wasn't riding it right. I only owned it for about 3 months. And it was only running for about a month of that time. I'm not accustomed to spending so much time at the shop with a bike. I'm glad yours has been solid. My Pan America Special was the most significant financial hardship I have ever had with a Motorcycle. And for someone that has ridden On and Off-Road almost every day for the last 20 years. That's a big deal.
@@AdventureGlide did they buy if back? What were you doing wrong, you said you didn't ride it right?
@@grayghost1423 They purchased the bike back for MSRP. I lost about $8k on exhaust, tune, skid plates, luggage, intake, Tires, tall seat, and Uhaul rentals to bring the bike back to the dealer. When the engine blew, it cost me $2k to haul the bike back to Northern Nevada from Tehachapi, Ca. If I knew what I did wrong, I would have tried to adjust my riding style. Lol. I rode it like I had all my bikes in the past. My Pan America had so many issues. My buddy also bought one at the same time I did and had more problems with the suspension than I did. He kept cooking the suspension solenoids.
Mine melted the wiring harness going down to the front fork tubes. The issue with that is the wiring harness going to the front fork tube is hard-wired in, and they replaced the front left lower fork tube twice. I never rode the bike after the second fork tube replacement. I was done with it at that point. There are a few videos on my channel from when it completely shorted out in Lamoille canyon. Luckily, I was able to coast into phone service. Lol. The Pan America is a beautiful bike and a ton of fun to ride. But the build quality is nowhere near on par. Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, or BMW. All you have to do is look at the engine up close and see all the loose wiring strung around the cylinders. My Pan America was a nightmare. Officially the biggest POS I have ever owned. I hope yours stays solid and you get lots of fun miles out of it.
you are lucky to have the opportunity to take that run! she's a big heavy bike, but it looks like hd did a really good job....what do you think of that bike compared to the africa twin? cheers bro!
I still prefer Honda's reliability but the HD had a ton of cool features that my AT definitely didn't have.
What do you think about this bike for a 5'7" rider, is it possible?
I don’t know why that wouldn’t work. Good review. Nice little ride too. Thanks for sharing.
I don't really get the Cylon reference, and I watched both old and new BSG. I'm trying, I just don't see it. To me, its shape looks like a Gazelle or maybe an Impala off of the Chevy Impala logo.
Has anyone had a PA which wasn't plagued by problems? They seem like fun bikes but I don't know anyone who's had one that didn't spend more time at the dealership than riding it.
No issues, off and on road. And the 3 guys I know that ride them have the same experience.
@@grayghost1423add me to the list, no issues besides the starter noise which has since been covered under warranty
2" up 1" back risers make the pan am perfect. Got mine from A1
Neat they had you guys actually off pavement. Little surprised honestly for Harley. Good test ride.
Yeah I'm still blown away we got such a good test ride off road
I heard the center stands were tearing out the case because the case is magnesium and the stands bolted to the case. I'm hearing this from service center friends.
I have witnessed this personally. And people come to me to get it fixed and Harley parts are slower in delivery than Trump. IE it ain't happening. Nuthin but promises.
Nope, never heard of this. I did check the bolts to my side stand and retorqued them.
@@grayghost1423 I did here this from friends that works for the local dealer around me. I'd assume that maybe by next year this problem would be resolved.
@@dougmate2378 the reason I address this, is that it's second had information, a friend knows someone story's. I've seen 2 with problems, and thats what gets the attention. And those 2 were bought back from HD. The 21s seem worse, at least HD has stood by them.
Love my Pan Am.
Me too, and it's fun to Smoke the GS riders.
Great video as usual! question! from a fellow big guy to a a fellow big guy. I know your AT was a 16 I don't recall if youve had a video on the newer ones I don't think. So be that as it may I'm contemplating a new AT just LOVE the design and I secretly want the DCT... Kinda.. I think! BUT That Pan America looks pretty darn sick too! Ian has me almost thing GS but thats pretty pricey. Simple comparison or opinion AT to Pan Am whats your thoughts?
I wouldn't get this over a Honda. Reliability is no contest and capabilities are similar enough
I test rode one last fall and it was very powerful but I felt the gearbox was very clunky ( maybe it was just the one I rode ) also didn't care for the layout of controls. I wear a large glove and felt awkward trying to reach controls with keeping my hands completely on the grips. Idk just my thoughts.
As cool as test riding is it’s just not for me. I’m a short guy and I just gotta do the research and sit on bikes and make a choice. If I was taller I wouldn’t worry about it as much.
All right I get it. I wanted to poo poo this bike when it first came out, but I guess if you're going for the big GS this thing is something to consider
I was more impressed than I wanted to be
Get the GS. Skip this thing. You cannot fix it, you cannot maintain this, and many Harley dealers will sell it to you and then say they cannot perform typical maintenance on it and have to wait for a HD Pan Am specialist to come by to to work on it.
You know why people like to hate on this bike? Cause HD made a great bike and it smokes the competition on and of road. This is good for everyone, it forces the manufacturers to up the current offerings. I own one, it's a great motorcycle. There are some that have had issues, and if they couldn't sort it, they bought it back. Most don't have any problems just like mine.
@@D.E.X the GS has its ills too.