Knog SCOUT Bike Tracker & Alarm // Apple AirTag Alternative
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- The Knog SCOUT is a bicycle tracker and alarm that utilises the Apple 'Find My' Network that comes with a few additional features than a standard AirTag.
Links:
Knog Store on Amazon: amzn.to/3ikpCtd
Knog SCOUT Official: bit.ly/3FuETB7
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Technical Specifications:
- Bluetooth compatible (No UWB. No NFC).
- Weight: ~22 grams... (AirTag ~11g)
- USB-C Rechargeable
- Battery Life ~6 months.
- Alarm - 85dB claimed.
- Button to arm/disarm the alarm.
- 'Security' screws are supplied.
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Video Index:
0:00 Intro
0:37 GPLama AirTag Videos
0:50 What's In The Box / Hands-On
2:03 Technical Specifications
2:37 Price
2:43 No Ultra Wideband or NFC
3:25 Arming and Disarming
4:48 SCOUT App Configuration Options
5:18 Apple Find My Network
6:26 Field Testing Bluetooth Range
10:01 Field Testing Alarm Volume
10:38 Anti-Stalking
11:16 My Take on the SCOUT
11:56 SCOUT vs Apple AirTag
12:40 Wrap Up
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I have one and it’s absolutely amazing! I tested it when I did an Ironman Overseas. My partner was able to track me around the whole bike route while racing!
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Thanks for the comprehensive review! It's an interesting alternative to the Air Tag, for sure.
Good to see the sun out in Ballarat. Have a great Christmas 👍✌️😎
That looks like a nice christmas present 🎄🎁 thank you Shane!!!
Looks a fantastic improvement to bike security, especially when paired with a lock. Can see this type of device becoming common place.
Awesome theft deterrent at cafe stops. It looks much stealthier below the bottle cage than comparable Airtag holders
Thanks for the detailed review, Shane. There’s plenty to like about this product, but I’ve had a long history of problems with Knog lights….and I’m certainly not unique on that score. Your comments at the end about early firmware that was sketchy with arming/disarming doesn’t fill me with hope. I’ll sit on the fence for now and see how this plays out for a bit longer.
I hope the Mk.2 revision comes with a spoken voice alarm like "Warning Stolen Bike" to notify bystanders. Since the alarm isn't going to stop a bike thief from riding away with the bike with the alarm on.
The Aussie version will yell “Oi C*&T!”
Even with that I still don't see bystanders intervening. Maybe they'll take a video but that will be the last time the bike is seen. I'm sympathetic to the problem but I'm not going to risk my own safety for a stranger's bike.
imagine if you messed up with your own bike lock and people around you looking at you 🧐 while you're sweating profusely and trying to convince them that it's your own bike 😅😅
@@mike_f for me the Knog Scout would be more about the alarm waking me up in my tent when Bikepacking and someone is sawing through my bike lock in the middle of the night
very cool. i bought air tag my self which i kinda regret a lil as this is such a better upgrade with all the extra stuff. still air tags will do their thing for sure too, better than nothing.
I enjoyed how the ad that was served with this was from Peleton. I guess after past escapades it’s good to see that they’re now indirectly supporting your monetisation.
I love these baseball field tests. 👏
“Field Test”
The alarm is overall a better (from first glance) alarm (much more refined than even the Boomerang Cyclotrac V2) but the downside is that the alarm is not loud. 85 dB is annoying but if you want serious deterrent against at least a would-be/opportunistic thief, an alarm with a siren level of 110-115 dBA at 10 feet distance in open an outdoors environment is much rather called for. Yes there is the liability of hearing damage, but this type of counter-offense should be there by design as a wimpy 85 dBA alarm is going to have a less of a chance of deterring theft or vandalism. I know there's probably a lot of arguments with even just the principal of using anti-theft technology (namely analog purist that much strongly prefer solid locks, cheap throw-away bikes, and insurance), but no argument of theirs will convince technology adopters from test-driving this sort of technology out. And of course, this device is not meant by any means to replace any sort conventional bike security measures, it's just another added layer of security and you obviously can't go wrong with more security layers.
Point is, this device seems more polished than any other equivalent piece of equipment I've seen or tried, but it needs to be even louder (at least have a dedicated alarm piezo/horn and a quieter local feedback piezo so as to not blast your ears off when just controlling the device).
This isn't the only thing I'd ever wish for in a smart bike security transponder-alerter system, I can name a laundry list of specifications that would beat out any bike-oriented alarm systems out of the water.
As an extra test, would be good to see how the ‘cafe alarm’ compares with the Cycliq Fly ones (but not the 12 Sport which doesn’t have the alarm feature).
I use a plastic stem cap mount for mounting my apple AirTag. Looks like a top cap and it’s up high on the bike.
Very useful for bikepacking when your asleep in your tent. It will wake you if someone moves it
Saw the fly go by. 😂
2:00 Spotted! #FlyGate
damn, your bikes got some nice fat tires very nice !
GREAT THANKS
I’m primarily interested in the deterrent potential. Setting off an alarm might be enough to deter a thief because it is obvious that the bike is protected beyond Airtags. And, if locked as well, it will buy me enough time to get outside the cafe or convenience store and stop them. Hopefully I would never need to use the tracking…
You should have brought Max to the park and have him touch the bike to set off the alarm. ;-)
Nice. but I am looking for one that works any any android phone. please any advice on any device for android?
Was disappointed by its range. Unless your 30-50ft in point of sight… it will disconnect. Peace of mind gone.
I’m wondering if I should use an Apple Watch and leave my phone in my backpack with security of the stores i frequent. I wonder if that will notify me if set off? Thanks for your time.
Need an android compatible version
People need understand that not is ‘thief proof’,but just one more thing to make thieves life harder!
Correct!
Hi, GREAT review - Can you answer for me; If it relies on Bluetooth, the range is limited so Ian't there a risk that theft wont be transmitted to your iPhone?
It will connect to ANY iPhone/iDevice with Bluetooth in range and report its location back to the FindMy Network.
I found app constantly disconnected. Even from a few meters away - line of sight but behind glass. Otherwise like the product, but not confident to place bike out of sight!
Hi Shane what handlebar bag are you using on this bike? Do you like it?
Rapha. It's their only bar bag, iirc... should be up on their site.
Hi Shane. I’m thinking about picking one of these up but can I just ask if you had any issues fitting it under your bottle cage? I’m guessing you have Elite cages like me but I read a review that said they struggled to get it to fit on their bike as the supplied security screws weren’t quite long enough? Also are you still using it? Any other problems since the review video? Thanks for your time & keep up the great content.
Knog should be able to answer the one on screw length. I assume if it was a common issue they'd be supplying longer ones now. I used this in the car for a while. It drained about 2x faster than a standard AirTag. Other than that, all good.
Thanks Shane. I’ll shoot Knog an email & see what they say.
wait so i thought the airtag anti stalker feature would notify people within an hour no matter what... (i read somewhere even 15mins possibly)? is the only advantage of the scout the alarm? i assumed if they wernt as precise then the antistalker feature would be relaxed to some degree and i could be less worried about a thief being alerted...
The anti-stalker functionality with this is identical to an AirTag. It's not 15 minutes. Imagine being a luggage handler at an airport if that was the case.... it'd be a nightmare.
Bro did you have to try the SEE SENSE ICON3?
No
Your "rain cover" thing doesn't look as yellow as mine does? Yours is kind of a peach colour? I'm afraid here in the UK we still have firmware 1.1.2. App is a bit annoying if you have multiple bikes/devices scattered around your house/lair: As the far device's connection gets iffy, the app becomes unresponsive and comes back and might need an "up swipe" (or kill -9, depending)
Green screen filter killed the colour. I was going to mask it out… but that would have taken way too long.
I hope they release a version able to fit into the frame or tires
Unlikely given the variances with different frames and tyres. MucOff have a tubeless valve AirTag holder which is interesting but no doubt not all that popular given the mess about installing it.
How is anyone going to hear the alarm inside the bike frame or tyre?
@@brotherfranciz I don’t need an alarm… I actually don’t want one. At least not from the actual tracker and not if it’s too quiet.
@@gplama yep. I have that one installed. Much more stealthy and that’s why the Scout is not an option for me.
Do you know if the anti-stalking features are still active on the scout? I mean of course they are highly appreciated in day to day scenarios. But in regards of releasing your properties in a theft-event they are really not helpful at all. That’s indeed the only reason why I’m currently looking for an AirTag alternative. Otherwise the convenience of it being inside the Apple ecosystem, battery life and overall tracking abilities are reasons enough to stay with the infrastructure of those Bluetooth enabled trackers. If only humans wouldn’t be humans… but than the need for a tracking device would stop as well as the stalking prevention features.
In Europe we have the option of bikefinder(.)com. But because of the mounting mechanism (claw based clamping inside the handlebar) it’s not suitable for my $400 Beast carbon bar 😭
@@whyilovethemoon The anti-stalking on the Scout is identical to an AirTag.
I just wish it was a way to put it in my bike I don’t have the water bottle mount this calls for that area houses a battery for my ebike
There are saddle rail mounts for standard AirTags.
So , if my bike is already stollen , i have chance to see signal on another part of the city ? Or its working not like airtag?
Yes. This works like an AirTag.
If let in silent mode, does this notify the person who take your bike that a "airtag" is following them?
Nope
@@lexx348Could you please double check that for me?
I thought the Edge 1030 or newer also had an alarm like that? No?
My Garnin Edge 530 has an alarm. But, Garmin head units are also easy for a thief to steal or throw away. That makes the alarm OK as a vibration/alert sensor if you are in sight of your bile, but not much good if you are in a shop.
Whenever I lock up my bike to go into a store, I always unclip the Garmin and put it in my pocket. (I have a cheap AliExpress alarm that does the same job and makes a much louder and more annoying noise)
Weird that it needs an app to do its main function…
I'd like to see a false positive test. If it's cable locked to a crowded bike rack and someone is jostling it around to lock their bike, is that going to set it off?
Not quite a false positive test if the motion sensor is moved and the alarm goes off... 🤔 The motion sensitivity can be adjusted... but that's always going to depend on how much movement you want to allow.
@@gplama Okay, not "false positive" but "nuisance alarm". If the alarm gets set off by everyday non-malicious activity, it's just going to be an ignored annoyance like car alarms are for many people.
Would have been good to cover the mounting screws and tool too…
Knog have a few close-up shots over on their website. They’d be a pain to remove if you lost the tool. Maybe they should put a Find My tag on the tool too. 😉
If I were a bike thief I’d buy one for the tool :-)
@@gplama Thanks - probably was worth a mention in the video.
So a thief only has to get the screw tool to be able to remove this device dispose if it and carry on home? Or are the screws and tools individualised per device?… asking for a friend.. ahem.
Assuming it was armed beforehand, the process of trying to remove it will almost certainly move the bike, trigger the alarm and notify the owner.
If someone saw this was on the bike, could they not just disarm it by pressing the button before moving/walking away with the bike?
If the owner was within Bluetooth range, yep. They'd still be able to track it via the Find My network.
@@gplama This is the question I was going to ask actually... I think any situation where I wouldn't be locking the bike I'd be within bluetooth range which kind of makes the whole thing a bit questionable? Does it have any settings to try and limit how far you can be before the disarm button doesn't work?
@@simonrussell734 Within bluetooth range or you can turn off the option to disarm without phone (Answering for future viewers if you already found out)
@@jaimeb.7537 Having a look at the manual now there's more information, it also says that you have to have the phone within about 1m, which solves my original query. (Obviously the Bluetooth range is further than that, this is only for the arm/disarm button to work.) I sort of figured they must have something like that, it just wasn't mentioned in the video.
I've had the Scout for a couple of months now. While the product itself is great the app consistently stops working properly. If I haven't used the alarm for a few days the arm/disarm button on app just disappears, even when its bluetooth connected, and the only way to get it back is to activate the alarm from the Scout (and, yes, I have the latest firmware version - 1.1.3). Its a PITA and unfortunately Knog have not been at all helpful with resolving this issue. Just sayin'.
Killing and restarting the app will probably work too
Can someone help me: is it possible to connect two smartphone to the device? My wife and I share the same cargo bike and want both phone to be connected.
Unlikely. This is a good question for Knog though.
You can't but that's a limitation of the FindMy network and not this device specifically. However this will be supported on iOS 17 which is out in September.
@@someonegreat100 yeah I heard, looks like NSA and CIA will also be able to have access from now on ;) the hard coded limitation to one device was to be sure you are the only one to track it.
Does it cost every month tracking fee
No
How many watts does it save me?
42
I'd say probably -0.0026 as it increases weight and decreases aerodynamics.
All of them. Nicked bike = no watts
If a thief had your bike in his or her garage it would be hard to get it back even with a tracker. because the police can't search private property without a warent. But you could aggressively go on someone's property and take it back yourself.
Is there anything similar for Android
Kind of… but it’s opt-in and has nowhere near the reach of Apple’s Find My Network.
AlterLock work for android but it use Sigfox, so it have a subscription.
Samsung’s tag?
Does it notify a thief that an AirTag is following them?
If they take it with them to a place they frequent often, like their house. At which time you’ll know where it is to send in the hounds.
I just got to the part of the video where you said that haha whoops commented too soon
Bzzz @1:59
Unpaid cameo. 🪰 🤣
Make it for android and you got me
anyone here who got their bike stolen but found it with gps? how did it go?
*This technically isn't GPS. If you jump over to Reddit there's a few stories of people retrieving their bikes (and scooters, and other items) with AirTags.
I am locked out of the App … no customer service … i tried resetting password via email but the App still responded with incorrect credentials … the alarm will not turn off .. very frustrating ,,, removed from bike .. and looking for alternative … the bottom line … you pay for what you get … cheap solution!
Interesting. I am absolutly not interested in making noise, when someone just shakes the bike stand. Noone really cares here, when car or shop alarm launches on the street. Quite the opposite - ppl feel upset. I would prefer a gps tracking of in-bike hidden unit. Sadly, this one is not that, and does not support Android, which is a real pity. So, so far - a physical lock when travelling around 🙂
So this only really works if the bike is stolen while you are in Bluetooth range; otherwise if you are out of Bluetooth range such as a building... when its stolen the thief will get an alert
If you’re out of Bluetooth range, no direct alert. You then use the Find My Network to locate it. And the thief will only get an alert after moving with it for a period of time and returning to a location they frequent (as defined by their iPhone)
Not Android compatible is the biggest fail for me
The fact you own an Android is the fail.
@@dandoesstunts220 🤡
@@dandoesstunts220 lol apple dont even have ant+ lol. I want any plus yo lol
@@bluelineriderlsd3548 wow.. Bluetooth. FANCY!
@@dandoesstunts220 1:1 is fancy. -not
Too bad not useful for Android.
Product that works but unnecessary. Because this product is based on the premise that the bike would be stolen when the cyclist gets off his bike, an event that hasn’t happened in years.
Huh???
Like, normally cyclists are still on the bike when it gets stolen? :/
@@JC-pt2tw See "Casually Explained: Cycling" - ruclips.net/video/5EE8m8mmq1k/видео.html
Beefy lock, proper locking techniques, decent (3 out of 5 rating, 5 being best) security practices, a throwaway bike, and some basic ass insurance is where it's at they say
Happens daily in Japan.