Stealing My Own Bike - 7 Bike Locks Vs Angle Grinder

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @marleyward3478
    @marleyward3478 Год назад +51

    Speaking as a a former sketchy person, The best way to secure your bike, especially in a high theft area such as mine, is this patent pending threefold combo:
    1: Heavy U-lock around the back wheel and frame, with the additional cable to secure the front wheel
    2: Have a bike that doesn’t look appealing to steal. If you’re loaded and can afford multiple bikes, get a used one that does the job off Craigslist to use for like, around town purposes or it it’ll locked up out of your sight for a while. If , like me, you can’t afford multiple bikes, get something used but solid, ideally with cosmetic damage that doesn’t affect its ability to help you get around.
    Sometimes you can stop there. Inexpensive bike with good a lock that takes longer to get past isn’t as worth it to them. Still though, to be extra sure, throw in
    step 3: Lock it up close to, but not on the same rack as a more expensive, less or equally secure bike. Sounds cold but if there’s a better, easier score nearby you’re less likely to be a target. Avoiding the same rack is just in case they pull up in a truck/van and boost the whole thing.

  • @angelmtzmtz8799
    @angelmtzmtz8799 Год назад +79

    I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! ruclips.net/user/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!

  • @BingoBangoBabyInc
    @BingoBangoBabyInc 2 года назад +358

    After this Francis is going to quit RUclips, Attacus is going to shut down, Lawrence is going to retire from racing, Backyard Bike Shop closes it's doors and the UK is going to have the most dangerous bike heist crew since The Italian Job.

    • @Jimmidoesstuff
      @Jimmidoesstuff 2 года назад +30

      You were only supposed to cut the bloody lock off.

    • @balloney2175
      @balloney2175 2 года назад +6

      There must be a law that stealing bike is like stealing a car. Please try to understand that riding a bike or ebike minimizes Earth's global warming.

    • @gabriutube
      @gabriutube 2 года назад

      Il primo 😂

  • @Jimmidoesstuff
    @Jimmidoesstuff 2 года назад +166

    That was great fun to make. More of these please, Francis.

    • @kamucho
      @kamucho 2 года назад

      Agreed

    • @rufusgillespie9940
      @rufusgillespie9940 2 года назад +1

      Who are your and how do you know his name?

    • @ABoxIsMyHome
      @ABoxIsMyHome 2 года назад +2

      @@rufusgillespie9940 lol its the channel name

  • @sharewolf10173
    @sharewolf10173 2 года назад +12

    A bike lock that smokes then EXPLODEDS if you try to cut it! Killing the bike thief! Someone should invent that. At least a exploding dye pack.

  • @jamesfindlay8690
    @jamesfindlay8690 2 года назад +197

    If your employer or HR tells you not to bring your bike into your workplace or office, kindly show them this video

    • @Jimmidoesstuff
      @Jimmidoesstuff 2 года назад +7

      😂😂😂😂

    • @SprezzaturaLifestyle
      @SprezzaturaLifestyle 2 года назад +3

      why would any employer even have a say in how you get to work?

    • @esoekidjo
      @esoekidjo 2 года назад +11

      @@SprezzaturaLifestyle they don’t. But they can if you try bringing your bike up the stairs or elevator and stall it next to your desk.

    • @uncrunch398
      @uncrunch398 Год назад +2

      @@esoekidjo They should at least explain why, and listen to ideas how to mitigate that / those concern(s) so someone can get to work via their preferred method and not have to worry about whether they can leave the same way. Everybody who has means and control of a destination should consider what they can do to help make it an easier choice to do what it takes to lighten traffic, clean the air and get where you need to go timely. Even install machines to quickly clean tires without damage if tracking muck is an issue.

  • @LewisfromYouTube
    @LewisfromYouTube 2 года назад +155

    Hey Francis,
    I used to work for a British Bicycle Lock company so I know pretty much the ins and outs of the tests.
    Sold secure only give Sold Secure Diamond if a lock can defeat an angle grinder and huge steel cable cutters for a certain amount of time (I don’t think it’s that long mind.)
    Sold Secure Gold approval doesn’t use an angle grinder or steel cable cutters.
    EU standard ART is a lot stricter. ART3 is their Gold and ART4 is diamond…VERY hard to get that approval.
    When I was working there, we always talked about layered protection. A Cable lock, D-lock and a Wheel lock if you can fit onto your bike.
    No lock is angle grinder proof (may be the new Hiplok but they will just cut the bike OR the post that it’s locked too like you did and sell the parts.)
    All you want to do is slow them down, and make them be seen.
    But cyclists need to insure their bikes as well, it’s the best way to cover your bike!

    • @amyx231
      @amyx231 2 года назад +26

      You don’t need to be secure against angle grinders. You just need to be parked near a comparable bike with a lesser lock. :P

    • @mikekrasovec6390
      @mikekrasovec6390 2 года назад +1

      @@amyx231 don't assume that a meth addict bike thief is going to have the same logic as yourself.

    • @lisat9707
      @lisat9707 2 года назад +20

      Wow. That's very interesting! I use a 2 part system for locking mine up in my shed. I will be adding a alarm in future for the door.
      The thing that impressed me on that massive lock is the smoke created.
      Cable locks could easily contain a tube of Dye that when cut stains the thieves hands. Or a wire that when cut short circuits and triggers an alarm.
      All D locks could have a added coating that Stinks and makes coloured smoke when an angle grinder is used. A liquid stink bomb chamber for thieves that succeed

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 2 года назад +4

      @@lisat9707 but the "two-part system" he suggested really isn't. A cable lock is a completely worthless waste of time, money & effort. Why?
      Use a second more secure option like another u-lock or chain.
      Better yet, utilize a better lock. The Altor SAF lock has been available for a few years now. It's grinder proof. Expensive, heavy and a bit challenging to use, but it's a great solution.

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 2 года назад +3

      @Sister Mary Clements many bicycle commuters ride to the same spot each day to lock and leave their bikes while in school or at work. This is the situation for which the Altor lock is intended.
      It's 13 lbs., not 500. You might want to get on the bike, climb some hills and work on the free weights if 13 lbs. is too much for you.
      Good luck with that.

  • @karlaldinger3017
    @karlaldinger3017 2 года назад +82

    That last part where they cut through the bike is critical. Most things you lock it to, are far more weak for an angle grinder than a hardened U-lock. What you lock it to matters.

    • @Raz0rking
      @Raz0rking 2 года назад +14

      When commenting on Lock Picking Lawyer vids about secure locks, I often use the phrase "At some point the lock is so good, the robber just puts a stone through the window or breaks the door down"

    • @neilfulcher9298
      @neilfulcher9298 Год назад +7

      absolutely correct! the tool that most "professional" bike thieves rely on most is a van into which they lift the bike and lock into after cutting through the railing or fence that the bike was attached to. they can then remove the lock at their leisure in their workshop. BTW they look like fairly standard cutting discs, much better ones are available.
      A bike lock can only do 2 things
      1) send the casual thief off to steal someone else's bike.
      2) demonstrate to your insurance company that you've taken reasonable precautions to prevent your bike from being stolen.
      If I owned a bike that was expensive enough to warrant a £250 lock, I doubt I would ever get off it in public.

  • @TheArchBodom
    @TheArchBodom Год назад +97

    I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.

  • @Keule_from_Mars
    @Keule_from_Mars 2 года назад +362

    The LockPickingLawyer doesn't need noisy Tools and is still quicker. Even without cutting up the Bike 😆.

    • @PierreAlainMaire
      @PierreAlainMaire 2 года назад

      Exactly !

    • @synik224
      @synik224 2 года назад +7

      Please send all locks to him and see if he can beat the times

    • @PierreAlainMaire
      @PierreAlainMaire 2 года назад +7

      I think he did all of them,@@synik224 . Around 30 seconds for the hardest (with disc retainer)...

    • @darrengarvie8832
      @darrengarvie8832 2 года назад +2

      Was going to say the lock picking lawyer can have any lock open in seconds with out any tools just his pick set.

    • @LewisfromYouTube
      @LewisfromYouTube 2 года назад +50

      Problem is you need to be as skilled and experienced as him…not many opportunists are.

  • @ranxxerox6407
    @ranxxerox6407 2 года назад +87

    hmmm on second thoughts, would the bike thief just angle grind through the bike stand that you are locked against? So effectively shifting the attack from the lock itself?🤥

    • @antreaskonstantinou8585
      @antreaskonstantinou8585 2 года назад

      8:41
      Not effectively shifting though😂

    • @OrangeCrusader
      @OrangeCrusader 2 года назад +9

      Past that, I've heard of some lockups being pre-cut/looking bolted down but loose, so they wouldn't have to bother with doing the cut there/then at all.

    • @mikekrasovec6390
      @mikekrasovec6390 2 года назад +5

      @@OrangeCrusader or street poles which aren't securely anchored into concrete. Many are just jammed into dirt or broke from the concrete and simply stuffed back into the hole.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 2 года назад +1

      There's no point having a diamond rated chain lock if you lock it to a fence that's easier to cut.

    • @mikekrasovec6390
      @mikekrasovec6390 2 года назад +3

      @@tconnolly9820 an extra secure lock still limits the options for thieves even if they can cut through the thing locked to easier than the lock. Yes it is far better to lock your bike to a thick and heavy pole which is solidly connected to the ground... That said bike locks have reached a point of diminishing returns in that street poles and bike racks are typically much easier to cut through than the best locks. Also thieves can steal parts off of bikes such as the crankset, handlebars, fork, seat... as they are typically not secured by bolts which require a weird security wrench that thieves are unlikely to have. In addition some bike thieves have been known to cut through the bike frame to steal the rest of the bike. In addition thieves are known to purposefully destroy bikes that are secured with locks that are better than their tools. Bike locks are imperfect and there is typically a way around them. That said the imperfect compromise of leaving your bike unlocked or not being able to ever leave it are often worse.

  • @hitmanh1101
    @hitmanh1101 2 года назад +10

    Really interesting... so basically if you're out, lock up your bike next to one that isn't locked and don't leave it for long, especially in urban areas.
    My wife recalls being at uni in Scotland, and her friend having lost the key to her bike lock, sat in the middle of a town centre with a hacksaw cutting through the lock 🔐. Not one person challenged her. Took 10 mins apparently!!!

  • @caramel7123
    @caramel7123 2 года назад +4

    Thank you guys for this review. I need a REAL theft difficulty level lock for the sport bike I’m going to get. Most thieves who steal motorcycles research what is needed to remove a lock. If not adequate they’ll just come back with something serious to get the job done like angle grinders.

  • @mje1625
    @mje1625 7 месяцев назад +1

    NEVER did I think a video about the strength of various bike locks could be so damn entertaining. I laughed my ass off!

  • @UKGBManny
    @UKGBManny 2 года назад +13

    Shocking and as a roofer i know you can also get diamond edged blades for the angle grinder 😅. I was also thinking, I'm guessing the bike thief wouldn't care about public property and would just cut the metal railing the bike was locked to? Note to self never leave my bike anywhere!!. 🤣🤣 Thanks for info.

    • @caesiumx1334
      @caesiumx1334 2 года назад +1

      I know right.. I keep seeing this stuff and it's like... well, I never want to leave my bike for more then a few within my range of sight XD Granted for the occasional suburbs store I may leave it at a few times a year, and in remote trailhead entrances where it's may be the only bike there in both cases, there's probably low chances that anyone prepped to steal a bike with some kind of lock will be around right then. But still... lol

  • @merseypicsvids
    @merseypicsvids 2 года назад +11

    Nick, a great bike mechanic and also a pretty handy bike thief.

  • @palmer3977
    @palmer3977 2 года назад +9

    Wrong discs, try a diamond disc it will cut through the £250 D lock.

  • @dcltdw
    @dcltdw 2 года назад +44

    Here's hoping Kryptonite sees this and casually sends you a NYC lock. "Here you go, mates. Good luck with that."

    • @oseqq
      @oseqq 2 года назад +1

      Same with Abus and their GRANIT XPlus 540.

    • @otozinclus3593
      @otozinclus3593 2 года назад

      They get cutted fast too. Its just about getting spme more seconds in hope someone scares them away

    • @SprezzaturaLifestyle
      @SprezzaturaLifestyle 2 года назад +2

      any lock except for the hiplok d1000 doesn't withstand angle grinder attacks.
      they are designed to withstand bolt cutters and other kinds of attacks.

    • @otozinclus3593
      @otozinclus3593 2 года назад

      @@SprezzaturaLifestyle No lock withstands an angle grinder

    • @SprezzaturaLifestyle
      @SprezzaturaLifestyle 2 года назад +5

      ​@@otozinclus3593​Well, no lock withstands a small hand saw either if you saw long enough. For a thick lock you would have to saw probably for hours but eventually you get through. The Hiplok D1000 does withstand angle grinders for 20 minutes or so. Long enough to get the battery of an angle grinder empty. Also you would have to change discs multiple times for even cutting half through. Good enough for almost any situation.

  • @invalice123
    @invalice123 2 года назад +2

    The ending with Emily talking and someone coming past on the busted bike. Gold.

  • @kamucho
    @kamucho 2 года назад +4

    You might have been stealing bikes….but Bella was there stealing hearts ♥️

  • @blazinmonsta
    @blazinmonsta 2 года назад +10

    Absolutely incredible. Sunday entertainment at its finest!

  • @DanielDLParr
    @DanielDLParr 2 года назад +10

    Mr Cade, you should try one of the hand held hydraulic cutter. They can cut through the Kryptonite D locks in about 8 squeezes of the handle and they are silent.

    • @carriebartkowiak
      @carriebartkowiak 2 года назад

      Well.....crap.

    • @gaveuponfindinganame
      @gaveuponfindinganame 2 года назад

      Not the case with the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit ruclips.net/video/jXoS_HB1I3o/видео.html

    • @laz.7288
      @laz.7288 2 года назад

      don't give them any ideas

    • @paulwheeless1080
      @paulwheeless1080 2 года назад

      Kryptonite NY Fahgettaboutit U-lock broke the cutters in the Lockpicking Lawyer's hydraulic cutter test

    • @gdcodurham.
      @gdcodurham. 2 года назад

      Where can you get them.???

  • @martinlum7166
    @martinlum7166 2 года назад +2

    The balaclava doesn't conceal your identity especially with the Backyard t-shirt and those glasses. Informative and entertaining. Thanks .

  • @christopherthuraisingham5083
    @christopherthuraisingham5083 2 года назад +1

    The final comments were really funny... Loved the video... Didn't realize how weak all these locks were. Wow.

  • @TheNeelonRokk
    @TheNeelonRokk 2 года назад +7

    Sooooo, you guys invented the dropper frame... that was some quality content and laughs. 🤣

  • @bennyhill4131
    @bennyhill4131 2 года назад +2

    Tony would've been absolutely STELLAR as the thief in this vid tbh! Geordie accent and cutters! Primo content!!

  • @vuaeco
    @vuaeco 2 года назад +6

    For the "diamond lock", get a diamond 5-inch round blade (the one used for masonry). It will get through that lock like butter and you don't even have to change a single blade.

    • @meauvedrun9669
      @meauvedrun9669 2 года назад +6

      Stop telling the thieves how to succeed 🤦‍♂️

    • @djtaylorutube
      @djtaylorutube 2 года назад +5

      @@meauvedrun9669 Tell lock makers how to make a better lock! Security through obscurity is not security.

    • @gdcodurham.
      @gdcodurham. 2 года назад +2

      Bike thieves know what there doing

    • @mreyesonthelies4386
      @mreyesonthelies4386 Год назад

      Do you have a RUclips video doing it, or are you just full of hot air?

    • @agentzapdos4960
      @agentzapdos4960 Год назад

      Even if they made an uncuttable lock, they can just spray the works with canned air and hit it with a hammer.

  • @kevinlyon9501
    @kevinlyon9501 2 года назад +6

    Wonder how much quicker you'd be with a diamond metal wheel cutting disc on the grinder. Sad for the bike though. For cafe stops I just find an expensive bike that is not locked up and lock mine next to it.

  • @JC-pt2tw
    @JC-pt2tw 2 года назад +5

    This was really fun to watch. But yes, try the Abus and Kryptonite's

  • @fijikimbo
    @fijikimbo 2 года назад

    Just bikepacked through Normandy..had the Hiplock Z lock on the outside of the Tailfin…. Seemingly 4 hours of rain and bit of sand grit renders the dials useless anyway. No longer secures… will see how their returns policy fairs….
    Top Content!!! 😁👊🏻

  • @maikelmolto8986
    @maikelmolto8986 Год назад +1

    While watching this video I get an advertisment shown for a very compact hydraulic 12ton bolt cutter. Thank you YT for this kind of customer service! You really understand our needs. 😀🤣😆🤣😆

  • @kidkarbon4775
    @kidkarbon4775 2 года назад +2

    If you get a sizzor jack between any D-lock and open it (jacking against the sides of the lock, not the length, ie..not key section to bend) it will break the lock as they are not designed to have strength in this plane..
    When I lost the key to my Kryptonite lock that's how we opened it, no real noise and scary fast

  • @Durwood71
    @Durwood71 Год назад +2

    Moral of the story is that if someone really wants to steal your bike, they will. A good lock might slow them down, but it won't stop them. As a last resort, they can simply cut the frame in half and sell the components.

  • @aloys234
    @aloys234 2 года назад +33

    I feel like no matter what I do I may as well always consider my bike stolen 😭

    • @chenyang9303
      @chenyang9303 2 года назад +6

      buy a folding bike and take it into your home and workplace. Don't ride a bike to any place you are not allowed to bring it inside with you

    • @caesiumx1334
      @caesiumx1334 2 года назад +8

      @@chenyang9303 That would defeat my entire purpose of having a bike sadly...

    • @johnstack5008
      @johnstack5008 2 года назад

      @@caesiumx1334 I've got a folding e-bike. I would never leave it locked outside.

    • @teeambird2079
      @teeambird2079 Год назад +1

      @@caesiumx1334I have a bike that i take into my workplace everyday and take into my apartment and it still serves the purpose of a bike. I just don’t leave it unattended and the rare case I do it will have two locks on it

    • @jc2685
      @jc2685 Год назад

      @teeambird2079 which locks have you got? In the market for one

  • @rodcosta3603
    @rodcosta3603 2 года назад +3

    This 💯% kicks Antiques Road Show into touch! 😁👌🏻

  • @deej1976
    @deej1976 2 года назад +3

    Next video, Nick shows us how to repair a cut bike frame with a toilet roll and double-sided sticky tape!

  • @DIY-DaddyO
    @DIY-DaddyO 2 года назад +4

    Also we need to intervene more and stand up to these bike thieves and look out for one another’s bikes.

  • @jornmulder
    @jornmulder 7 месяцев назад +2

    always put the lock also true the wheel ! they can cut the bike like that, but they not gonna cut in a wheel.

  • @brianho6625
    @brianho6625 2 года назад +2

    Time0830
    When using portable griding machine. The steel railing tube / steel flat bar seems weaker than the heavy duty U-type lock.
    The professional way is to create a 30mm gaps from the railing tube / flat bar (cutting twice to the railing / flat bar by grider machine instead of cutting the heavy duty lock directly)...
    I bet less than 60 seconds, the bike able to detached from the railing in good condition.
    My mountain bike was stolen with less than 60 mintues parking (I am reviewing better secure locks). The police told me that I should park at location somewhere within CCTV range (I.e. outside a shop). Thieves usually avoid location with CCTV.

  • @randylahey7343
    @randylahey7343 2 года назад +2

    I have a disc brake lock that emits a 120 decibel alarm, if you even jiggle the bike it goes off, it’s seriously piercing. I think that with a decent lock is about as good of a deterrent as you can get. Nothing is fully theft proof but criminals don’t like attention.

  • @ELITECMDR666
    @ELITECMDR666 2 года назад +1

    Decided to watch this as I'm getting an ebike, got a Kryptonite U lock with extra long wire for the front wheel. I'm impressed with that unreleased lock.
    The end of the video: I know of an easier way was priceless 🤣🤣🤣

  • @blahqwe
    @blahqwe 2 года назад +5

    I won't condone cutting the frame, although, that was hilarious.

  • @marcoangeletti_
    @marcoangeletti_ Год назад

    after all, Hiplok D100 again did it and saved the bike... before it was cut, I mean. Looking forward to have one with me daily as I'm into the restoration and transformation of an old glory into a commuter.
    Great video folks, I'm still PMSL!!!

  • @billyponsonby
    @billyponsonby Месяц назад

    The guy who says ‘toolage’ also calls everything metal, ‘some kind of metal’. Thanks for sharing.

  • @smartnothard2400
    @smartnothard2400 2 года назад

    By far the funniest video of 2022 so far!

  • @DonzLockz
    @DonzLockz Год назад

    These more common ways to pinch a bike are way more fun to watch. Loved the video. Cutting the bike was not expected but he got it in the end.😂👍

  • @SpeedRunningHobo
    @SpeedRunningHobo Год назад +1

    The last one: at that point, you're not locking your bike, you're biking your lock.

  • @TurnbuckleTrivia
    @TurnbuckleTrivia 2 года назад +2

    8:42 absolutely howling !!😂😂😂

  • @boxrick1
    @boxrick1 2 года назад +5

    You gonna give Kryponite New York a go?

  • @mountainbikingfortherestofus
    @mountainbikingfortherestofus 2 года назад +9

    The moral of the story, do not leave your bike unattended, ever.

    • @DanaTheInsane
      @DanaTheInsane Год назад

      There will come a day when you have to piss

    • @JackCrossSama
      @JackCrossSama 7 месяцев назад

      @@DanaTheInsane for how many hours?

  • @aubreyxengland
    @aubreyxengland 2 года назад +1

    absolute mad lads. I love it

  • @CyclingMikey
    @CyclingMikey 2 года назад

    I've been waiting for this one!

  • @Alex-to8es
    @Alex-to8es 2 года назад +1

    Should have got an OnGuard Brute as an comparison, it is 16-17mm of hardened steel but only £30. It is pretty heavy to lug around though, but can't image that last lock was light, and the "gold" chain one wasn't worth having!

  • @brianpurcell9058
    @brianpurcell9058 2 года назад +1

    Lol ! Although Nick could wear that balaclava when he's cutting a carbon stem !!! 🤣

  • @kevinmills3329
    @kevinmills3329 2 года назад +7

    Depending on how you position the chain and lock will depend on how difficult it is to defeat. Making it fixed like a vice makes grinders more effective but making it float will make everything jump around making the locking system difficult to cut making it more effective.

    • @lmaoroflcopter
      @lmaoroflcopter 2 года назад +5

      They literally had it loosely fit against a fence. A thief will just apply tension to the chain and cut it like they did in under a minute.

  • @ellon118
    @ellon118 2 года назад +7

    Great video Francis, as jimmy said it would have been good to see a kryptonite New York lock go through the same test as they are popular. Cheers

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 2 года назад +3

      The Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit NY lock can be cut in under a minute with today's grinders. It used to be the gold standard and took over 10 minutes. Then grinders got better and better so now it offers very little security.

  • @frxcryptotradesmen5306
    @frxcryptotradesmen5306 2 года назад +2

    Well lads have u tested the kryptonite lock and recorded it

  • @stevephipps3242
    @stevephipps3242 2 года назад +6

    As usual, a great video. As others have suggested - could you retest the same locks by attempting to pick them. Cue the Lock Picking Lawyer or UK equivalent. The barrel is the weakest component of all these locks, rendering the whole point of locking up your bike futile, especially in the wrong location.

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 2 года назад +6

      "As others have suggested.."
      Yeah, others with NO CLUE as to how bicycles are stolen! Ask your nearest cop or police station how many bicycles are stolen due to picked locks. The answer is zero. None are stolen by picking. LPL has done a HUGE disservice to the world by giving people the impression that thieves will pick your lock to steal your bike.
      I purchased a 7-pin cylinder lock pick and attempted to pick several old locks I have. I haven't been able to pick a single one. The whole, "gate #1 is open" rigamarole is pure BS. I've disassembled & rekeyed 7-pin cylinder locks, so I know how they work and what's involved to pick them. It is not NEARLY as easy to do as LPL says it is.
      I left a 7-pin cylinder lock with a locksmith for over a month and he couldn't pick it.
      But that's not really the point, because it doesn't matter if locksmiths can pick locks. It's like saying, "Your home alarm installer can defeat your alarm, so these systems are useless!" No they aren't.
      Again, thieves aren't picking locks. They're using brute force. So LPL and the whole worry about picking is a lot of hot air.

    • @tconnolly9820
      @tconnolly9820 2 года назад +2

      @@dudeonbike800 Absolutely true. Lock picking in any case happens so rarely it is statistically insignificant.

  • @nathanciminelli5900
    @nathanciminelli5900 2 года назад +1

    I personally use the Abus Granit XPlus 540, U-Lock, Key

  • @diggitydogg1864
    @diggitydogg1864 2 года назад

    I'm disappointed your first 4 locks were the cheapest you could find instead of testing REAL locks. But y'all are quite entertaining lmao, thanks for the video and the laughs! Cheers!

    • @Cade_Media
      @Cade_Media  2 года назад +1

      Those are locks people will actually buy though.
      Could film round 2 with some heavyweight locks though, it's an expensive video to make!

    • @diggitydogg1864
      @diggitydogg1864 2 года назад

      @@Cade_Media you're right, I've just never purchased a bottom of the barrel lock and expected it to be anything other than a visual deterrent, but some people inflate their expectations and like the whole cheap part. A round two would be cool, but again, you're right lol those locks are not cheap! I have a couple myself (Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit 1415 & Abus Bordo GRANIT X Plus 6500) so I can attest to the ridiculous price some of us pay for what probably turns out to be nothing more than the appearance of security lol and a few more minutes before our bike wanders off.

  • @me1976ac
    @me1976ac 2 года назад +1

    Francis, Do a video about using a garden pressure sprayer for inflation of tubeless tyres, I recently had great success using one to seat a stubborn tubeless tyre, might make interesting content and help people out who don't have access to a compressor.👍😉

    • @Cade_Media
      @Cade_Media  2 года назад

      What, using a pressure washer?!

    • @me1976ac
      @me1976ac 2 года назад

      No, using a garden sprayer that you'd using to apply weedkiller etc.pump to charge type and you can put it back to how it was afterwards, this link is how it's done it worked for me but I did wrap some ptfe around the valve to get a better seal. ruclips.net/video/bxNWiLQKxOs/видео.html

  • @BsktImp
    @BsktImp 2 года назад +1

    Good vid. Had to 🤣 though; reminds me of a group of public school sixth-formers doing a project.

  • @michaelb.9257
    @michaelb.9257 2 года назад

    Love the Flensburger beer in the background :D

  • @richarddunne9802
    @richarddunne9802 Год назад

    I once left a very decent Trek bicycle locked in Dublin city centre for two weeks, after a bit of a late Saturday night and then being very busy with college. It was a very silly thing to do and I really didn't expect it to be there when I went in, but it was! My Abus Bordo lock had the marks of bolt-cutters in it, so obviously someone tried and failed. When I got a very good bike, worth about e1000, I bought a second, newer-generation Bordo lock and I would use both of them every time, as well as a cheap coil lock. That was e180 worth of locks, but that's what you need for a good bike! I feel anxious when I see the locks many people have on their bikes, like I could walk away with it myself in a few seconds, if I was so inclined.

  • @guycozon
    @guycozon 2 года назад +1

    The D1000 is designed to resist angle grinders, so not really surprising (although good to confirm that the manufacturers claims hold up). Would be interested to see if it holds up to more advanced non-angle grinder attacks that thieves use, like a bottle jacks, freeze spray & hammer or drilling the lock cylinder.

    • @SprezzaturaLifestyle
      @SprezzaturaLifestyle 2 года назад +2

      diamon testing also test other methods of attack, so it should resist all of those you menitoned

  • @filipskrzypczynski7833
    @filipskrzypczynski7833 2 года назад

    The most funny and profesional test of bike locks i have ever seen.

  • @a1yallop
    @a1yallop 2 года назад +1

    Brilliant. I want one of those £250 D locks. Great video Francis.

    • @TheGtspider
      @TheGtspider 2 года назад +1

      Hello. Well if you want one of the Hiplok D1000 anti angle grinder locks, then you are going to have to wait a long long long time. I pre ordered one at least nine months ago, paid the 250 quid about 4 months ago and am still waiting. What I did not know they are made in China as all Hiplok products are and guess what, they are being held up at felixstowe because of the strike. I do not know when I will get the Lock, communication from Hiplok is not brill.
      I would say near Christmas. They have sold out as far as I know and you cant preorder anymore. Why they dont make them here in Britain is any ones Guess. The actual lock seems to be very good, look at the videos on line etc, I would have thought that any thief would not bother if they know and reconise the lock, but it would be very easy to cut the hollow steel u poles which most places have to lock your bike to, then take the bike away and use an acetale cutter or lock picker to remove the lock. Sorry to be pesamistic.
      Regards Graham Tarling

  • @ElonMuckX
    @ElonMuckX 2 года назад +2

    First rule of bike thieves, don’t use your real names, especially when “members of the public” are around…………”this all looks completely normal, Francis.”
    3:23 even a siren didn’t deter these bike thieves!!!

  • @shyrahman4506
    @shyrahman4506 2 года назад +1

    Nearly 2 years ago I had my Cervelo S5 stolen fm my work place bike shed I had 2 locks 🔒 to the bike and they still cut the locks

  • @Funcentric
    @Funcentric 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for this. After having done this, would you say that the difference between the Silver rated Hiplok and Gold are negligible? Both resist against the bolt cutters in the same way and when an angle grinder is used, they're basically the same, right? So conclusion is save your money and get the silver, it'll be lighter and thieves probably can't tell the difference between silver and gold anyway and wouldn't really avoid breaking into it based on the two ratings?

  • @Mike_5
    @Mike_5 2 года назад

    This was what we needed to see - nice one

  • @SethJayson
    @SethJayson 2 года назад

    you can nip through the cheap cable lock a few strands at a time with a pocket-sized wire nippers and be through in

  • @connorchong6215
    @connorchong6215 2 года назад

    Hilarious i use the same face shield as Nick at work in the ER. Great vid as always!

  • @ilovebooks76
    @ilovebooks76 Год назад

    I was told that the bike locks are more of a deterrent. then for making your bike secure. you want to make it seem like the hardest one to seal out of everyone else's so having multiple locks is the best way to go. it cafe wheel lock a ulock and maybe a change or bar lock and put it in a high traffic area.

  • @georgecolon2786
    @georgecolon2786 Месяц назад

    Try cutting the ABUS U-Lock Granit Super Extreme 2500/165HB230.. See how it goes with that amazing U lock..

  • @jolive3743
    @jolive3743 2 года назад +1

    got mine back thanks to a £12 gps, only difficult part was sitting in the Police station saying ''i have the location and i'm going round there now, are you gonna come with me or shall i just go it alone?''.......prick that nicked my bike actually cleaned it, which was nice.

  • @sharonrae429
    @sharonrae429 2 года назад

    Hilarious, the best youtube video yet

  • @derandiheissst
    @derandiheissst 2 года назад +1

    Great video! I suspect a real thief would have simply cut through the fence and not the frame of the bike 😊

  • @peteross4587
    @peteross4587 2 года назад

    I've cut through a NY Fahgettaboudit in under a minute (I'm in the bike biz and we have to deal with abandoned bikes from time to time). This new hiplock looks very promising. People need to be aware what they lock it up to tho. Sometimes the lock itself isn't the weakest point.

    • @agentzapdos4960
      @agentzapdos4960 Год назад

      As shown in the video, the bike itself can always be cut through if the thief already has an angle grinder.

  • @pouncerminned863
    @pouncerminned863 Год назад

    i like how dude's head just blends into the white sky at 7:31 mark

  • @dudeonbike800
    @dudeonbike800 2 года назад +2

    "Oh no, they'll cut the bike rack!"
    So let's be sure our bike racks are replaced or upgraded with better materials!
    "They'll just cut the frame!"
    Then use your brain and lock your bike better! Don't just hang the u-lock over your top tube and walk away! Run the lock through your head tube so you're taking advantage of a thicker frame tube AND a fork steerer tube inside it! Or lock through your rear wheel between your chain and seat stays! This secures your rear wheel AND frame with one shot. A spoked wheel is MUCH harder to cut, as spoke tension will pull the rim together and squeeze the grinder wheel. Also, tire beads are a PITA to cut through.
    Again, use your brains to make your bike harder to steal!

  • @arcoulant87
    @arcoulant87 2 года назад

    Best one yet ! How many tube can you cut out of a bike and still ride it ?

  • @ArmTheCreative
    @ArmTheCreative 8 месяцев назад

    I take off pedals, seat, and the front wheel axle pin. I put them in my backpack. The front wheel is tied with the cable. They can’t ride off into the sunset without a complete bike, so don’t make it easy. However, of course, if they REALLY want it, they WILL take it.

  • @agentzapdos4960
    @agentzapdos4960 Год назад

    Even that diamond lock at the end would have been defeated by a car jack. Some bike thieves have miniature car jacks that they use to break D-locks in less than 15 seconds.

  • @BakeryWizard13
    @BakeryWizard13 10 месяцев назад

    I've always seen a bike lock as more of a deterrent to prevent crimes of opportunity. Of course in the area I live I don't think we have professional bike thieves just roving around with angle grinders or even bolt cutters. I imagine in a big city, or in Europe where bikes are a lot more common you would really feel the need to invest in a ridiculously strong bike lock.

  • @reflexreaction3797
    @reflexreaction3797 Год назад

    I have an idea, possibly for another startup or whoever wants to invest their time, etc. Shops and other establishments should (could) enable anyone entering to connect their mobile phone directly to a relevant live camera outside. So while in the shop they can keep an eye on their bike. Of course another option is hiring an attendant who will confront anyone trying to use any tools on any bike. So should it still happen, the owner will be compensated.

  • @afrosaratoga2572
    @afrosaratoga2572 Год назад

    Everyone in the comments: No one picks locks nowadays to steal a bike...
    The Lockpicking Lawyer: Hello there.

  • @markjthomson
    @markjthomson 2 года назад

    Those Z locks can also be shimmed with a coke can... they are an expensive joke! Did you consider rapid freeze and a hammer for the D lock, quick and quiet... and the last one... GOLD! I think you would have to cut through both sides of the prototype lock as well as it locks both sides.

  • @madeforstreets
    @madeforstreets 2 года назад +1

    STEAL THE BIKE 🚲
    - No it's to heavy 🤣🤣🤣
    This is so much fun, i hope the guy with the mask, doesn't take it off, finally something funny 😂😂😂
    - Stay Blessed -
    🙏❤✌

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 2 года назад

    Professional thieves come in a van, carry large bolt cutters (36" or even 42"), an angle grinder, screwdriver and in some cases cordless drill, sledgehammer and freeze spray.
    They will always attack the weakest link (pun intended) in your security.
    Most common D-Locks can be cut with the really big bolt cutters in under 20 seconds and even they cannot be cut that way (around 16-18mm thick hardened steel is the minimum) will withstand an angle grinder for less than a minute (some key, but expensive exceptions such as the Hiplock D1000). Chains need to be welded links, hexagonal in shape and a minimum of 16mm thick otherwise the bolt cutters will work very quickly or an angle grinder even quicker. Cable locks are completely useless
    Chains need padlocks, so if the chain is too thick a thief looks to break the padlock. Most padlocks last seconds under attack from a bolt cutter, angle grinder or if the padlock is on the floor, sledgehammer. There are some exceptional solid ones though both expensive and heavy.
    Finally, you need to consider what the chain or D-lock is attached to: often street furniture, some form of wall or ground anchor or bike rack. Bike racks are almost always useless against grinders or bolt cutters and if they are cover they also provide cover for the bike thief! Street signposts are mostly useless - if the professional thief also has a set of stepladders in the van they can easily lift a bike over the top of the post, at worst having to cut the thin metal of the sign. The solid metal bike locking points on most high streets are very good. As for ground or wall anchors for home, if you bought it at B&Q or similar DIY store forget it, the bike will be gone in seconds.
    The reality is that there is no bike lock system commercially available which a determined thief cannot beat. As the Lock Picking Lawyer shows on his YT channel (brilliant and utterly terrifying if you own an expensive bike) every lock can be picked, often in less than a minute. Even without lock picking no locking system can survive a determined attack by professional thieves all you can do is make it difficult, time consuming and noisy for the thief so that they will go elsewhere rather than bother with your bike.
    There is only one universal truth - if a thief cannot see your bike they cannot steal it. But if you put it in a communal bike store or easily accessible shed you might as well put up a neon sign "bike for free - help yourself"

  • @luisrivas9678
    @luisrivas9678 2 года назад

    very nice video guys! I enjoyed

  • @naofumii464
    @naofumii464 2 года назад +1

    INFORMATIVE AND ENTERTAINING, I LIKE YOUR VIDEO MATE👍🏻. I just got my fat-tyre bike stolen this morning, and the lock was a 5-digit combination lock. They broke into my garage and my sister heard a loud banging when they close the garage's door. I chased after the thief and thank god, i managed to got it back!! SO, YEAH IF YOU WANNA REALLY SECURELY LOCK YOUR BIKE, USE MORE LOCKS: DISK LOCK (2 FRONT& 2REAR), FRAME LOCK (WRAP IT AROUND REAR TYRE AND FRAME TO A POLE)👍🏻

  • @grahambell9831
    @grahambell9831 2 года назад

    Great test folks ! also an enjoyable few minutes being naughty critters 😉 with cutters and angle grinders 👍

  • @TheFoxholeLife
    @TheFoxholeLife 2 года назад

    LockPickingLawyer: This is the Lock Picking Lawyer, and I today I am going to show you how to open bicycle locks with a twig or a shim.

  • @forgingluck
    @forgingluck Год назад +1

    That C tube stunt 😂

  • @notkaty
    @notkaty 2 года назад +1

    That D1000 was a monster

  • @chrisstanley1708
    @chrisstanley1708 2 года назад

    I have a hip lock chain we caught a thief trying to cut through. He wasn’t able to get through the padlock. Managed to get through the chain once but not a second in order to to remove the lock. I still use it just not the compromised ring. Really couldn’t recommend it more. Both an abus and kyptonite lock cut through and bikes stolen

    • @Mirkkko
      @Mirkkko 2 года назад

      Hiplock Gold owner here. Any of the well made, but still budget, Kryptonite locks such as the Series 4 1090 outperform the Hiplock by a huge margin. The round shackles on the Hiplock make it easy to place an angle grinder. Kryptonite has solved that. Also, Kryptonite uses much better, hardened steel than Hiplock does. Still use the Hiplock for better convenience. Just because your ABUS/Kryptonite locks have been cut, doesn't mean they are inferior. Depends on equipment (diamond angle grinder discs, etc.) and many other factors.

  • @billyyank5807
    @billyyank5807 2 года назад +1

    Angle grinders are loud and draw a lot of attention. Most bikes are stolen when unlocked.

  • @abmong
    @abmong 10 месяцев назад

    Quantity has a quality all its own. With locks maybe it's better to have 2 or 3. Even the most expensive ones, all they can do is buy time, better to supplement it with an alarm.
    Having 2-3 or more mid tier locks might be better than one top tier one.

  • @ranxxerox6407
    @ranxxerox6407 2 года назад

    This is the best funny video EVER!!!! also scary too I think someone likes to wear a balaclava!!! 🤣🤣🤣