Litelok X1 & Litelok X3 review | Real world angle-grinder test

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024

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  • @bennettsbikesocial
    @bennettsbikesocial  Месяц назад +1

    Check out the NEW security video, with all the latest locks tested here: ruclips.net/video/JVqNCv_p7Ug/видео.htmlsi=dN7iHJtP6iDG2UcL

  • @stevewoods9437
    @stevewoods9437 Год назад +298

    It's amazing that its that two British companies are pushing the tech use in the portable lock market forwards whilst the likes of Kryptonite and Abus haven't done anything despite being huge with loads of resource available. Angle grinders are the biggest threat now so its great to see some decent protection against them starting to appear. Great video John

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +9

      Thanks very much! Cheers, John

    • @BD90..
      @BD90.. Год назад +16

      They have not bothered if they don't need to spend anything if anyone just buys their old stuff. This is great to see more inovation and not just a new lock using old outdated tech.

    • @stumpworm
      @stumpworm Год назад +4

      @@bennettsbikesocial How long will a diamond cutting wheel that won't wear down take to finish the lock?

    • @amococ2487
      @amococ2487 Год назад +14

      @Michael Conlogue diamond wheels are not very good at all on metal strangely. I use them on tiles daily, but even cutting through a bit of aluminium will be far quicker with a metal cutting disc.

    • @stumpworm
      @stumpworm Год назад +5

      @@amococ2487 That is reassuring, thank you for the info.

  • @martinpalm5
    @martinpalm5 3 месяца назад +12

    5 years in jail for stealing a bike would fix this issue much faster.

  • @andrewlim3842
    @andrewlim3842 Год назад +62

    Another brilliant video. No marketing fluff, just an objective test with results demonstrated. It's good to see manufacturers are slowly gaining ground against the angle grinders, I'll be getting one of these once I upgrade to a motorbike that's worth more than the lock 😂

  • @bc312070
    @bc312070 Год назад +18

    Don't ya just love it when a product like this comes out to help honest paying riders!
    Another kick in the Gonads to the 'Toerags'

  • @aussie8114
    @aussie8114 7 месяцев назад +7

    Good that you tested drilling it. Hardly any lock reviews do this yet it normally takes about 10 seconds to drill out a cylinder. Far quieter than grinding too. This looks like an excellent lock.

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 5 месяцев назад +3

      It is. I locked up my Tern Verge X11 (£2500). To go in waitrose. When I came out some toerag had been trying to grind it. I knocked him out with my ergon saddle.

  • @bennettsbikesocial
    @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +71

    Please note that the Litelok X3 is actually £249.99, not £279.99 as I said in the video. Cheers, John

    • @gravel_slope
      @gravel_slope Год назад +3

      the X3 does not exist on the european website?

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +4

      It's pretty much hand-assembled, so they've delayed production slightly to keep up with the X1 apparently. It'll be on the site shortly. Cheers, John

    • @ilovephotography1254
      @ilovephotography1254 Год назад +1

      Thanks for another fine torture test demo. The X3 is up for preorder in the US. ETA is expected in February of 23. Priced at $300.

    • @maxh1376
      @maxh1376 Год назад

      @@bennettsbikesocial do you have any idea when they will be available? Bike recently got stolen and recovered and this looks like a must have to make sure it doesn't happen again. I'm planning on putting around the front tire of my 2020 Africa twin, I hope it fits!

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад

      Sorry to hear that! Preorders should be live shortly, then available around February I think.

  • @ewanburnett3956
    @ewanburnett3956 10 дней назад +2

    Got an X1 Moto coming as it's the best I could afford, that will be the 8th security device I have on my motorbike. What sort of world are we living in where you need multiple security devices sad times. Thanks for your test though very reassuring and helpful

    • @Sanderus
      @Sanderus День назад

      I believe my whole bike is worth less than either of the angle grinder resistant locks. And the result could be the thief cutting through the frame. :-/

  • @Grim_Beard
    @Grim_Beard Год назад +21

    Thanks for the very thorough test, John. In fairness to LPL, he has often said that on-street thefts are generally brute-force attacks and very unlikely to involve anything but the most basic 'picking' tools and techniques.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +4

      He used to, but seems to have stopped now, sadly.

    • @Grim_Beard
      @Grim_Beard Год назад +4

      @@bennettsbikesocial I'd guess it got too repetitive, even for someone who has a few 'catchphrases'.

    • @dyurchyk
      @dyurchyk Год назад +1

      ​@@bennettsbikesocial LPL keeps saying it, but in different words: "it requires special tools and skills and is probably beyond a novice picker".
      Additionally, thieves (assuming they're rational) are supposed to use the easiest way to steal, which was a grinder attack. If this lock is a game changer, a new method will prevail. It might be a lock picking or something else, like a garage door opener hacking. So it would be unwise to completely ignore the pick resistance of your locks.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +5

      @@dyurchyk Pick resistance isn't ignored - it's part of the certification for Sold Secure. We'll continue to keep trying to engage with LPL, but he seems pretty busy with his shop.

    • @dasy2k1
      @dasy2k1 6 месяцев назад

      At the end of the day the only lock manipulation attacks (not full picking) I've heard of thieves actually using are things like comb picks, raking, bump keys and shimming of padlocks (along with snapping euro cylinders)
      I have never heard of any common thief using skilled picking as an attack unless they are the super specialised type that tends to steal artwork or jewellery from vaults

  • @maxgusatz5644
    @maxgusatz5644 Год назад +17

    Good for you John, you’re a very genuine and upfront biker bloke fighting all the BS and gits out there. 👍

  • @capybara931
    @capybara931 Год назад +19

    In the world of RUclips videos, you are the Litelok X3 John. Thank you yet again for an absolutely amazingly informative video. Keep up the great work.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +3

      Thanks so much! All the best, John

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 Год назад

      ​@@bennettsbikesocialso did it take less then 10 mins for x3

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад

      @@geegee8625 Did you watch the video?

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 Год назад

      @@bennettsbikesocial yes but in video you never gave the time

  • @spocksvulcanbrain
    @spocksvulcanbrain Год назад +76

    Litelok should make a series of chains using the same material so you can use this lock to link the chain to a fixed immovable point so the bike can't be picked up. Since the weakest link is usually the chain, I think that would be a good business decision. Another product of similar inability to cut through.

    • @mmm357m
      @mmm357m Год назад +8

      I have an x3 and it's so short and narrow the only place I can use it wolthout a chain is through the spokes. doesn't fit around either wheel, or through either brake disk. bit disappointed the spokes are now the fairly easy to cut weak spot

    • @Bunter1815
      @Bunter1815 Год назад +1

      ​@@mmm357m yes I've found the same, too much clutter around the disk to feed it through and not wide enough to get the rim and the tyre through. Trying to decide whether to return it or to strip the protective rubber and coat with bright tape.

    • @chuck1622
      @chuck1622 Год назад

      @@Bunter1815 Just throwing this idea out there, haven’t thought it through enough to pick it apart. How about modifying it to fit through an area in the brake disc or hub by cutting through the straight part of one side of the U, then grind down the diameter thickness of each side of the cut enough so that each cut side can just fit through the hole in the hub or discs, and then meet in the middle, where accessibility of a tool is near impossible. The ground down diameter of the separated sides won’t be able to be exposed by sliding it through one way or the other, because the original thickness is too much to fit through and it’s snuggly butted up against each hole entrance. The tough part would be to get the tolerances just right so it can’t be wiggled to one side or the other to expose the ground down thinner diameter. I dunno in my head it works but would be very specific to your bike and would likely make it useless in other applications.

    • @Bunter1815
      @Bunter1815 Год назад

      @@chuck1622 i just stripped the protective rubber and coated with blue insulation tape.

    • @jeffbridges7009
      @jeffbridges7009 11 месяцев назад +1

      The chain links would need to be as thick as the lock shackle but not a bad idea.

  • @gasmasky01
    @gasmasky01 2 месяца назад +1

    Just got the X3 because of this video hopefully with 4 locks on the bike it can stay safe

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  2 месяца назад +2

      It's going to make it a hell of a lot less tempting to thieves than almost anything parked nearby. Nicely done!

  • @ukrytykrytyk8477
    @ukrytykrytyk8477 Год назад +24

    Great video not only for motorcyclists but also for bicycle owners, especially the more expensive ebikes or cargo bikes. Shame some more established companies have no such locks in their offer.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +2

      Thanks very much! Cheers, John

    • @Raz0rking
      @Raz0rking Год назад +2

      What is an expensive Bike to you? I am waiting for a 2k€ (conventional) bike and plan on splurging on the lock. I think even "cheap" bikes should be well secured.

    • @ukrytykrytyk8477
      @ukrytykrytyk8477 Год назад

      @@Raz0rking One can buy a second hand bike or a new "supermarket quality" bike for a fraction of what you paid, closer to the value of the lock.
      One determines oneself what is "expensive" and "cheap" in comparison to the item secured.
      Don't try finding controversy where there isn't one!

    • @Raz0rking
      @Raz0rking Год назад +2

      @@ukrytykrytyk8477 I aint looking for controversy. Everyone should splurge on a good lock. Imagine you get a bike for 300€ and a lock for 20€ and you get it stolen. One is still out 300+€ because one did skimp on a good lock.

    • @ukrytykrytyk8477
      @ukrytykrytyk8477 Год назад

      @@Raz0rking You're looking for controversy because you are assuming that the only options out there are cheap locks and the most expensive one, while in reality there are many choices.
      Look at SoldSecure clasifications. One can get Gold rated lock for 30-50 euro/pound/dollar which would be adequate for many.

  • @aidanoconnor7299
    @aidanoconnor7299 Год назад +18

    I completely agree on the colouring of the locks. Black is easy to forget about. Countless times I tried to move my bike with a disk lock on that wasn't really brightly coloured, only being saved by having the engine being off. I even wrecked the disk on my current bike when I tried riding with it still attached. For a finish, I've gone with a very bright disk lock with an alarm from Oxford (as well as a big chain). Yes, that alarm is for me as much as deterring any thieves - 2 years and not even a hint of forgetting to take it off. So maybe bright coloured lock and a lock alarm?

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +2

      Good call

    • @mountainbearoutdoors
      @mountainbearoutdoors 8 месяцев назад +1

      know its an old comment but I put a elasticated bungee cable from my lock and loop it over the front brake lever to remind me its on. think we have all tried riding off with a disc lock on before :)

  • @porkscratchings5428
    @porkscratchings5428 Год назад +3

    Glad I saw this, I was just about to buy an X1! X3 is best bet. Crazy we have to spend so much on security out and about and at home for our bikes.
    I’m originally from the Highlands and never locked our houses, left keys in unlocked cars out and about, to town, to the pub, never would get stolen. Moved to London, holy crapola, I had to get pannier bags to hold two chain and locks, two disc locks, had to get Datatag, Tracker just to get my insurance down which was 3 times more to what I paid up North lol. Crazy times we live in now!
    Great vid, thanks for the reassurance now on the X3 👍👍🍻🍻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧

  • @OldDogZeroTricks
    @OldDogZeroTricks Год назад +6

    You work hard for this channel and get a lot of respect from the motorcycle community.
    Off topic, as you have already covered, I look forward to seeing actual reviews of the 2023 Niken GT when it's released and any comparisons to the 2022 and before versions. I've enjoyed your plenty of Niken content over the years.
    As for bike theft, there aren't many things that make my blood boil more, especially seeing thieves in action. It's great seeing them nabbed by the police, though.
    Thanks for your hard work, it doesn't go unnoticed.

  • @MattSwain1
    @MattSwain1 Год назад +22

    Great stuff, I think the X3 is going on my shopping list. I’ve currently got one of the big liteloks which has been a bit disappointing in terms of not being nearly as practical as it looks like it might be. It’s big enough to be awkward to carry but not long enough to attach to a lot of things (bearing in mind that lampposts and railings are usually set back from the kerbside)

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад

      I agree - the Core Moto doesn't roll up tightly enough, which is why I still prefer a chain. Cheers, John

    • @Whatwhat1235
      @Whatwhat1235 Год назад +1

      hiplok d1000 be better

    • @BodybuildingSteve
      @BodybuildingSteve Год назад +4

      @@Whatwhat1235 not for motorbikes

  • @jeffgravitt3732
    @jeffgravitt3732 Год назад +3

    In the case of this product, 4 discs (!) and time, time, time......that's the key, as you've pointed out so often. I really love your videos, John. Thanks, buddy!

  • @ragerider6283
    @ragerider6283 Год назад +14

    Great video & by far the most genuine, reliable & comprehensive security tests around.

  • @rogerNKWYNNVIDS
    @rogerNKWYNNVIDS Месяц назад

    Holly, crop I'm highly impressed. I've never seen a lock defeat an angle grinder. This could be a game changer

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Месяц назад

      Check out the latest video about these locks: ruclips.net/video/JVqNCv_p7Ug/видео.htmlsi=DEyuq-eN6zgpfrkL

  • @RichardPomisel
    @RichardPomisel 4 месяца назад +1

    I have watched several videos testing bike locks. No one has actually done the tests under ALL of the following conditions. 1. Use portable grinder popular with thieves. 2. Include in the tests the time to change out blades and batteries on the portable grinders. In real life that time would add to cutting the locks. 3. Locking the bike locks in a more realistic scenario wrapping the rear wheel, frame and bike rack. 4. Additional second or third lock wrapping around front wheel, frame and bike rack. 5. Steps to take if you encounter thief while in progress.

  • @yorkshirebiker
    @yorkshirebiker Год назад +16

    As always, your reviews are first-rate, John. Massive thanks 👍👍

  • @Moto99-l6v
    @Moto99-l6v 19 дней назад

    With thanks to your hard work testing these locks just done 100 mile trip and you have cost me £300 on the dx1000 thank you 😂 very robust heavy lock to add more pain unlocking even more locks on my bike 👍

  • @Adameftube
    @Adameftube Год назад +32

    Tip I was given to not lose the angle grinder key : It's a good idea to cable-tie the angle grinder spindle key to it's plug to remind you to unplug it when you're swapping discs, so you don't accidentally start it and take your fingers off.

  • @calbrock6302
    @calbrock6302 Год назад +3

    I commute into Manchester City centre daily and I currently have 3 of Oxford hd max disc locks, a crappy ‘alarm’ disc lock and a nice big chain and padlock (that being left in the parkin bay) I’ve tried to make my bike look a royal pain in the arse to pinch! If it’s 30 seconds per lock that’s 2 and half minutes the thieves will have to be going at my bike. I will be buying one of these litelocks!!!

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +1

      You're doing everything right. There'll always be bikes to lock up near that have bugger-all security!

  • @JariJuslin
    @JariJuslin 3 месяца назад +1

    It's nice to see them using Abloy lock mechanisms! They are seriously underrated outside Finland.

    • @JariJuslin
      @JariJuslin Месяц назад

      Lockpicking Lawyer himself uses Abloy, and this is even newer mechanism.
      So picking won't be the weak point of this one.

  • @jameswalker2998
    @jameswalker2998 Год назад +24

    Great to see a British company producing such a top end security product. Well done #litelok

  • @paullupson6824
    @paullupson6824 Год назад +2

    Amazing. That Barronium material is sensational, i'm buying the X3!

  • @Planet_Wax
    @Planet_Wax Год назад +4

    Another brilliant video and great review John. I just love the content you put out.
    Have a great weekend mate, Cheers, Michael.

  • @richardhenry5961
    @richardhenry5961 Месяц назад +1

    Commonsense goes a long way, in how you use your locks to make it as difficult as possible even with a tight budget. Placement & position is everything; where you are going to lock your bike, location. I have a 45yr old 3/4" Hardened Motorcycle Chain with D-Locks. I had 2 attempts in 30yrs, they look at it, then left, because it was to much of a hassle. My camera pick it up that's how I know.

  • @folixmute
    @folixmute Год назад +3

    Very interesting review, good point about brake disks being cut too. Also nice to see a fellow donor, congratulations on reaching 50

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +3

      Thanks! I tried to do platelets, but my veins couldn't handle it. Gutted, as that'd be a fast-track to 100! Cheers, John

  • @a1white
    @a1white Год назад +2

    Great to see and this is on a higher powered mains grinder. Really impressive work from Litelok

  • @andrewvickers4487
    @andrewvickers4487 Год назад +3

    Another chance for some anger management therapy! I always find your testing vids extremely helpful for how thorough and informative they are. Absolutely brilliant, thank you. 👍

  • @andrewmeads6136
    @andrewmeads6136 Год назад +1

    Thanks very much for such an informative and objective assessment. I’ve just ordered an X3. For anyone else who’s interested, it’s worth ordering today as the current pre-order run (which is discounted) expires at midnight.

  • @gordanmoran4549
    @gordanmoran4549 Год назад +2

    Great job ! if Bennetts gave a better renewal price I would still be there, either way thank you for your diligence.

  • @Apollo949
    @Apollo949 Год назад +2

    This was an excellent real-world test, and I'd be happy to use both litelocks. Thanks .

  • @luislaurencio
    @luislaurencio Год назад +1

    This channel is our community gold mine

  • @Trumpets4me
    @Trumpets4me Год назад +3

    Holy cow, just don't loose your key. 👍👍. Brilliant, as is the norm.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +2

      Thanks so much! Cheers, John

    • @dudeonbike800
      @dudeonbike800 Год назад +1

      Why? Register the number - or just write it down - and Litelok can send you a replacement! Or if you're prone to losing one, then order an extra (or 2) when you get your lock so you don't have to go without.
      Come on people!

  • @yardspeed13
    @yardspeed13 Год назад +1

    Just seen this video as part of my research for a decent lock for my partner, her bike was stolen last summer despite being locked and chained in an area with other bikes present that weren't locked at all! The Lock in question was an Oxford Boss alarmed D shackle and Oxford 12mm chain (both quite old admittedly). Anyway, this is an excellent video, no shilling just an honest real world test. This lock has to be on the shortlist, thanks for your Efforts in producing this. Cheers.
    Regarding the colour you could always use some bright yellow vehicle wrap for the time being until they introduce some brighter colours from factory, just an idea.

  • @paulcummings8611
    @paulcummings8611 Год назад +4

    Great review as always truly informative. Pleases keep your other hand well away from the grinder, they can slip.👍

  • @fredthebarber
    @fredthebarber Год назад +1

    I always appreciate you making these videos. Thanks so much!

  • @Bladerunner4511
    @Bladerunner4511 Год назад +1

    Another great and honest test thankyou for all the work you put into these videos to help the biking community all the best

  • @2323233434
    @2323233434 Год назад +1

    Another great informative video , you gents are a true credit to the Motorcycle community, and not just in the UK. Godspeed

  • @chaxologist2024
    @chaxologist2024 Год назад +1

    Congrats on 100K views on the Litelok locks! Good knowing more and more people learning about these locks.
    Wished you showed the Litelok Core Plus Moto against the cable cutters and angle grinder as a worthy upgrade from the Litelok Gold more than just your review on the website.

  • @Aimee-May
    @Aimee-May Год назад +1

    They quoted you on the website and posted this video. Love it😂

  • @BlackThor15
    @BlackThor15 Год назад +2

    Awesome video John, thanks for your research and sharing it! 👍👍

  • @defylifeadventure
    @defylifeadventure Год назад +3

    Looks brilliant if expensive. I imagine people from various countries watch these videos despite the content being more UK specific. It's worth pointing out that in some countries e.g. Spain it isn't legal to lock your bike to street furniture, and unlike the UK, motorcycle parking areas do not have anchors for securing the bike. As such everyone just relies on disc locks. Thought it's worth saying so those on tour don't end up with a ticket for chaining their bikes up.

  • @teneretraveller8980
    @teneretraveller8980 Год назад +1

    Impressive, no doubt about it.
    If we worried about everything we'd never ride and that lock and a disc lock under a cover would be an excellent setup.
    Really good work, thanks for sharing
    Happy, safe travels 👍

  • @a13bkd62
    @a13bkd62 Год назад +2

    There will always be the 'yeah but' brigade but as you point out, in the real world... Appreciate the effort and information. I use an original Litelok with other locks when out, my logic being, the more on my bike the more chance of the scumbags passing me by. Cheers Brady

  • @ticthedog6095
    @ticthedog6095 Год назад

    Thanks for another quality piece of journalism.
    Great to see quality products from a British company.

  • @MotoGoato
    @MotoGoato Год назад +4

    Excellent test and solid content as always ... thank you!! 🙂

  • @meyeame8956
    @meyeame8956 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for covering more than just the solid U part. Nice to see the drilling and hammering tests unlike so many other reviewers.However it would be nice to see the angle grinder against the straight lock portion

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  10 месяцев назад +2

      Sorry! I did do that, but the shackle remains the 'weakest' point. Cheers, John

    • @meyeame8956
      @meyeame8956 10 месяцев назад

      @@bennettsbikesocial Thanks, great to know. The website doesn't even really cover the actual lock portion itself they only focus on shackle grinding so I'm trying to learn more about the whole unit. Appreciate your comment and info thx again.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  10 месяцев назад +1

      Pic in the written review: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/motorcycle-chains-and-locks/litelok-x3-lock-review@@meyeame8956

  • @adamlv1
    @adamlv1 Год назад +1

    It’s not a motorcycle, but I bought my first electric scooter about a year ago. I freakin loved that thing and from the first ride I knew I was going to always have one. I went to Home Depot and bought the biggest lock I could find and it cost me $60. The chain was huge too and I truly knew I had a solid security setup. 6 days after buying my scooter I rode it to Walmart. I chained it to the bike rack and walked inside. I was inside for under 10 minutes to buy 3 items. I know because I arrived at 10 minutes before closing and walked out just as they were locking the doors. I rounded the corner and it was gone. Chain, lock, scooter, all gone. In under 10 minutes. I was devastated. The security in the parking lot didn’t see anything and tried to avoid me when I went to talk to him. The doors were locked to the store and 5 or 6 employees had to try as hard as they could to pretend they didn’t see me banging on the door. So I called the police and waited for over 2 hours for an officer to show up. He treated me like I was the criminal.
    My scooter goes into the store with me now wherever I go. If they don’t like it I don’t shop there. But the only real way you can leave your electric scooter behind anywhere and not worry about it at all is to put an Apple AirTag under the deck board. If it is ever stolen I can track the location of it right up to the front door of the house that it goes and knock on the door and I imagine they puked be so freaked out that they would give it back to me. Either that or the cops could come.

    • @leeroyjeankins7781
      @leeroyjeankins7781 Год назад +4

      Air tags arent worth it because it will notify the thief they are being tracked immediately so they will look for the airtrag and toss it away

    • @Orcinus24x5
      @Orcinus24x5 10 месяцев назад

      As @leeroykeankins7781 mentioned, Airtags can be useless for this task because of the anti-stalking "feature" they have. Tile trackers are much better in this respect because they have an "anti-theft" mode where they will remain silent and not report their presence except to the owner upon request.

  • @sparxxbiggs
    @sparxxbiggs Год назад +1

    great stuff! my bike got stolen last month, then sawed through the bar it was chained to!

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +1

      Sorry to hear that! It is important to find something as solid as possible, but anything is always better than nothing.

  • @jjlad5037
    @jjlad5037 Год назад +1

    Thank you....Just placed my order for the X3. Look forward to trying it out against my HipLok D1000.

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 Год назад +1

      Greedy buggar
      Wants to ride with the 2 best locks worldwide

    • @jjlad5037
      @jjlad5037 Год назад

      @@geegee8625 ..the 'greedy bugger' also has two ebikes.....LOL

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 Год назад

      @@jjlad5037 miiiiii GOD why do you need 2 e bike's

    • @jjlad5037
      @jjlad5037 Год назад

      @@geegee8625 .....Radwagon for cargo hauling. Specialized Turbo Vado 5.0 IGH for trails.

    • @geegee8625
      @geegee8625 Год назад

      @@jjlad5037 damm the rich

  • @LaLa4iZ
    @LaLa4iZ Год назад +1

    Thank you for showing us how they hold up. I Have never used D Locks before but the way you used them on your wheel has opened my eyes, not only the fact that these Locks held up real nice. 10/10. PS I was unsubbed somehow so I resubbed :)

  • @wolfurine
    @wolfurine Год назад +1

    I'm just here (with my bottle of Aldi Magnum Premium) for John's heavy breathing! Cheers John 👍

  • @BrunoAlves-uy3sl
    @BrunoAlves-uy3sl 5 месяцев назад

    The note about not letting people give up of cycling due to theft is real. My wife was super scared to buy a bike because of it. I insisted so hard.

  • @BD90..
    @BD90.. Год назад +2

    Fantastic lock! Great anti pick core too. Well worth the investment on top of insurance. We now have 3 great options on the market for anti angle grinder locks. I might get one as in upgrade to my Kryptonite forgettaboutit D lock. Most locks on the market are rated against Bolt cutters and not grinders so this is great to see. I wish you tested it against the twist attack though. Lesson is if you can lock this lock to your bike....then put it through the wheel not the spokes if it fits and anchor the lock down with a decent security chain.

  • @DavidBridgeTechnology
    @DavidBridgeTechnology Месяц назад

    worth pointing out that cutting the lock may take several disks but if your lock only goes around a wheel spoke, then just cut that spoke and the wheel will still be ridable for a getaway and a new wheel is pretty cheap from a breakers

  • @juanvaca6203
    @juanvaca6203 Год назад +10

    Also I wonder if we will ever see these kind of materials used in security chains, if that happens, it will make it a hell of a lot harder for thieves to steal our bikes!

    • @dlmurray55
      @dlmurray55 Год назад

      it might not work because chains are thin enough to cut with hand tools but I wouldn't know for sure. it would be nice if it worked and they made them that way

    • @artofthereal
      @artofthereal Год назад

      @@dlmurray55 IT looks like it would certainly improve the chain at least.

    • @dlmurray55
      @dlmurray55 Год назад

      @@artofthereal an improvement really wouldn't be an improvement if you can still cut through them with the same tool as you could before

    • @artofthereal
      @artofthereal Год назад

      @@dlmurray55 Go look up the litelok x3 and the angle grinder vids for it and the X1.

    • @dlmurray55
      @dlmurray55 Год назад

      @@artofthereal my point is I can't see them making a chain as thick as a d lock , If you get too thin you will probably be able to cut through it with cutters. Now I could be wrong but I don't have a way to test it. But the thinner you go the less strength it'll have

  • @johnDukemaster
    @johnDukemaster Год назад

    Thank you so very much for making all these tests and films.
    Cheers! John

  • @markscrivener979
    @markscrivener979 Год назад +1

    Fantastically helpful review. I have a combination of chains, disc locks and u-locks for my fazer1000. When out and about I use a U-lock as the mighty fazer has a U-lock holder built under the seat. I’ve actually wondered for a long time whether a U-lock was effective or not. This review certainly helps answer that.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад

      Thanks! Oh for the days of decent storage space under seats! Cheers, John

  • @martinhughes9769
    @martinhughes9769 Год назад +1

    Great video I'm crying 😢 watching you destroy that lock 🔐

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +3

      Got to be done, or it's nothing more than fluff and b@ll@x! Cheers, John

  • @thelockpickinglebowski633
    @thelockpickinglebowski633 6 месяцев назад

    Litelok X3 features an Abloy Sentry disc detainer lock, which requires a special tool with a specific picking tip in order to pick open the lock and a fairly experienced lock picker with fairly in-depth knowledge of the inner workings of the lock can pick it open. Hiplock D1000 features a slider lock, which only requires a thick strong paper clip and a bobby pin in order to pick open the lock and a novice lock picker with fairly basic knowledge of the inner workings of the lock can pick it open.

  • @AndrewBirtles-ez1xz
    @AndrewBirtles-ez1xz Год назад +2

    Why is litelok not recognised as a security deviceby Bennet's insurance

  • @bikeboats6616
    @bikeboats6616 Год назад +2

    As bike owner myself ive seen a bike being taken by a bike gang, and what i saw was that they used metal dimond blades which just took seconds, so mybe worth doing the same test with a more realistic blade like those used by the gangs, but still great video.

  • @buckettraveler8398
    @buckettraveler8398 Год назад +2

    I think you should always use a battery powered grinder, no thief is going to have a corded one to steal a bike. As a construction worker I can confirm that a corded grinder is MUCH BETTER than any battery powered grinder.

  • @bradstudio
    @bradstudio 20 дней назад

    You need a electrical security option that turns the seat and grips into tasers with a loud alarm, flashing lights, and paging system.

  • @Nomad-Drifter
    @Nomad-Drifter 5 месяцев назад

    K19 GSA stolen last Tuesday 11 am gated compound. Cover removed Almax 19mm & squire 65 lock & Oxford big boss disc lock angle ground and gone… tracker removed and dumped…

  • @bsidethecside2283
    @bsidethecside2283 Год назад +3

    Another great test - thank you! I'd be interested to see how these new lock types stand up to different disc types. I've seen one vid where a diamond disc seemed to make short work of the X1 after the normal discs were destroyed and they fell back to the last disc they had (which seemed the most effective tbh). I have to applaud the progress though and great to see this being taken seriously with some real innovation.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +2

      I'm picking one up from ToolStation today... because of prepping for the show though, I don't know how quickly I'll be able to run that test

    • @bsidethecside2283
      @bsidethecside2283 Год назад

      @@bennettsbikesocial Nice one - thanks! If they are effective there, then that's my next lock.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +3

      @@bsidethecside2283 I can tell you that a diamond disc will get through it, but it's not quick, and you need a high-torque mains grinder to make any real progress. There'll always be something that can cut any product, but this is extremely resilient. Cheers, John

    • @bsidethecside2283
      @bsidethecside2283 Год назад

      @@bennettsbikesocial okay, wasn't aware of that. All good info and a slow cut is an unsubtle and brazen attack. Probably on the edge of being realistic as you may well end up rinsing the battery before making the 2 cuts needed for a well positioned D lock . Thanks again!

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +3

      @@bsidethecside2283 No worries! I need to rent a 54V top-end grinder and do some more bench-mark tests when I can, but thieves typically use grinders stolen from vans, so ones not in tip-top condition, and they rarely have their hands on the £400-£500 grinders. Mains grinders can be a lot more powerful, and faster than battery grinders, so it's important to understand that this kind of testing is purely for comparison. Real world attacks tend to take even longer!

  • @manoz6194
    @manoz6194 Год назад +2

    My ebike got stolen on Monday while I nipped into the supermarket for no more than 5 minutes. Had it locked to a bike stand with a kryptonite evolution lock and it seems they got through it very quickly with an angle grinder and they were probably lying in wait. It sucks because I relied on the bike for work. I think this lock would be ideal for me and it is larger than my kryptonite so can lock it to more things and is far stronger.

  • @loneranger5928
    @loneranger5928 Год назад

    Good video, 👍👍I believe there is a lock called the diamond, that is very robust. As far as, I recollect an attempt was made using a portable grinder,and 9 blades which didn't cut through the lock.

  • @dasy2k1
    @dasy2k1 Год назад +2

    Great video, would be interested to see how well it withstands a diamond cutting disc in a grinder however as I believe that's what the more sophisticated thieves are using these days

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад +1

      I've started using the Dewalt Extreme as part of my testing pack - you'll see reference to it in the written security reviews. They can get through grinder-resistant locks without being destroyed, but there still a significant time disadvantage still, compared to normal locks.
      Also, on the majority of chains and anchors I've also tested, the diamond disc is slower than an abrasive cutting disc. All of which means that one tool won't fit all for thieves. Diamond discs aren't being seen in use much at all at the moment, though they don't offer an all-out advantage and their increased cut time for the majority of uses will likely mean they're not that favoured.

  • @1973Grejluder
    @1973Grejluder Год назад

    This was my comment on a woodworking, but I think that owners of bikes can easily find similar places to mark things.
    - - -
    Thieves hate leaving traces, so any prevention should be around that topic !
    For anyone that buys tools the 2 first things you need to buy is a good camera and second an engraver pen.
    When tools get used they tend to get scratches. These scratches can be seing as fingerprints so if you as a owner see there's a deep scratch then take photo. And as prevention take photos every 2 month so that each has an history of how it was used.
    The engraver pen(manual/electrical).
    Find places on your tools that you don't mind getting markings. Do some weird symbols or letters. The axel on the chuck, the trigger, where the batteries sits, the direction switch etc.
    If a tool is stolen then wait 1 month before revealing the markings. Just think about the panich when stolen AND sold tool can be traced back to you.
    The engraver pen(manual/electrical) can also be used with succes on the side of a rim(bicycle/car). Depending on your skills with a pen you can engrave this :
    Landcode(UK=+044)
    //Then Police(101)
    //casenumber.
    This will create a trace from you to thieves without revealing any kind of personal information.

  • @fergusfitzgerald977
    @fergusfitzgerald977 3 месяца назад

    Good work -all we need now is a cheaper version for a normal bicycle - actually you could argue that these should be used by
    people with expensive E bikes !
    For a future video - What about cordless bolt cutters with replaceable blades !
    It's a war isn't it !

  • @strshooter7399
    @strshooter7399 Год назад

    Great review 👍😎. Only been watching a short while, but just super informative and helpful. I happened across you single layer, lined Jean testing from back in March this year. WHOA!!! Excellent, so informative! Whoa, thank you. I’m in my late 60’s, and though I ride so much LESS than what I did in my 30’s, I didn’t realize how crappy my wrangler carpenter jeans were ~ are in a crash/accident/ get off on pavement. I always suspected leathers were the best, and I always wear a full face helmet, full leather gloves, trousers (jeans) and a full sleeved jacket with pads (& boots that cover my ankle bones😉), but somewhere I missed out on how poor jeans are. Thanks for the solid, well present talk. I best get looking for that Litelok X3 lock and a lined pair of jeans… 👍😎

  • @veeken777
    @veeken777 Год назад +1

    For 180squid I built a metal posted secure fence around my bike with anchor and chain.

  • @brianmcintosh4716
    @brianmcintosh4716 Месяц назад

    they need to add a thick layer over the top of the steel with pepper spray so when the angle grinder trys to cut through it it activates the vapor from the blade and heat the person cutting it would be not able to cut through as the pepper spray would be everywhere

  • @billyrubin262
    @billyrubin262 Год назад

    Amazing performance for this lock but many thiefs use a portable blow torch to "soften" the alloy. I had a motorbike stolen likewise with locks on both disc brakes, front and rear.

  • @km55111
    @km55111 10 месяцев назад

    wow i use a Kryptonite 14mm chain right now and after seeing this i immediately ordered one. I cant believe the difference it makes and have been dreading having to leave my bike in a public garage

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  10 месяцев назад

      Keep using the Kryptonite as well if you can, then you're really well covered.
      Cheers,
      John

    • @km55111
      @km55111 10 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the tip! Keep up the great work!@@bennettsbikesocial

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for watching! Cheers, John@@km55111

  • @laurentbarre7887
    @laurentbarre7887 5 месяцев назад +2

    What about cutting the aluminum spoke instead the lock ? Even the frame if needed.... The Tree.... The road sign... Whatever is softer and easy to cut?

    • @ImTheBoss914
      @ImTheBoss914 4 месяца назад

      I have the same question, this lock doesn’t fit over my tire and costed $325. I put it through my disc brakes, however I’d imagine those are way softer than the lock itself…

  • @danielsoucy6688
    @danielsoucy6688 5 месяцев назад

    Litelok and Hiplok are the best on the market for now!!👍

  • @isyt1
    @isyt1 Год назад +2

    2:50 When you’re wanting your full weight on something then your arms need to be straight. Otherwise you’re only putting as much weight as your triceps can withhold. Also you were standing way too close to the lock. You should be balanced so you can take your feet off the ground and pivet.
    Would be keen to see this bit done properly
    3:38 exactly which drill bit was used here? Was it tungsten carbide-tipped drill or cobalt?
    4:10 What blade did you use?

  • @barrynicholas3911
    @barrynicholas3911 Год назад

    A other great review. What you do for us bikers is great keep it up ride safe be safe.
    Look forward to the next one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @MrAlexshellard
    @MrAlexshellard Год назад

    Probably going to get one with some of the money im saving going back to bennet's since my last insurance company didn't care about my data tool tracker, locks or bike safe. Another class video bud!

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Год назад

      Thanks so much! All the best, John

    • @MrAlexshellard
      @MrAlexshellard Год назад

      Update, used my money, you dont have it as an option and now paying more :(

  • @gearjammer3688
    @gearjammer3688 Год назад +1

    Just received my pre order x3. Had to go through spokes on my Kawasaki Versys 1000. Won't fit around wheel. But I can't see any grinder getting in to cut the spoke with the lock in the way.

  • @Lukelbro
    @Lukelbro Год назад

    Great review. It would be great to see you test the OnGuard Brute as it is one the of the cheapest (~£30) locks with a thick diameter shackle (16.8mm) available in the UK

  • @johnmute6865
    @johnmute6865 Год назад +2

    Please inform all your viewers about the horrible wait times and lack of accurate estimation dispatch for the X3. I made my order at the end of January when they mentioned that lock will be dispatched in April. It is now mid May and not only have I not received my order, but they do not even give a moderate estimate of a dispatch period. They say that "sorry the items will be dispatched on purchased order". Any professional manufacturer knows how many orders they have and their production speed and should be able to provide a more accurate date.

    • @Acolyte_of_Cthulhu
      @Acolyte_of_Cthulhu Год назад

      made mine early feb, nothing yet. Soon june.

    • @johnmute6865
      @johnmute6865 Год назад +1

      Oh and to add to that there was an attempted theft on my bike but recovered thanks to GPS tracker. If I had the lock before or went for the hiplock one then this might not have happened 😞

  • @Aetila
    @Aetila Год назад

    I was thinking...these locks could be even thicker at the top where you attacked them lol, it won't create a fitting-problem while it would make an attack more problematic, so they would be forced to try to cut from the side BUT then they can't turn it so they have to cut twice... Great demo video!

  • @bilaalE89
    @bilaalE89 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing video, now if a thief is watching this video they'll go prepared now, 3 grinders spare battery spare cutting disc

  • @rarbiyoutube
    @rarbiyoutube 3 месяца назад

    Hello It takes two cuts if it's attached elsewhere, but you attached in the Rim! Few people do this

  • @shelllavin6988
    @shelllavin6988 Год назад

    Thank you I bought one when I watched this video the lite lok. x1 for my e bike

  • @jakubzagrobelny3731
    @jakubzagrobelny3731 Год назад +1

    If you want to extend range to make it possible to lock bike with sth, you can buy two X3 or X1 and X3 instead of chain.

  • @Acolyte_of_Cthulhu
    @Acolyte_of_Cthulhu Год назад +1

    sooo delivery? people ordered januari and februari is still waiting...

  • @richardburns5925
    @richardburns5925 Год назад

    The only motorbike I've ever ridden was a pedal n pop in the school yard. I'm going to get that X3 for my mountain bike for when I go shopping on it in town, they'll need to cut the bike rack or do two cuts to get it off. It's £249, my mountain bike was 3 grand.

  • @DrHWTse
    @DrHWTse Год назад +2

    I suppose you could have 2 liteloks, one lock to lamp post etc. And the other can link up with it to your bike

  • @nfrl-hs2ly
    @nfrl-hs2ly 6 месяцев назад

    If you're worried about forgetting your lock and damaging your bike, just run a lanyard or ribbon from your lock to your handlebars. As soon as you go to start the bike you'll see the lanyard and remember what it's for.

  • @Frostmoth
    @Frostmoth Год назад

    I watch F9 for the jokes and your channel to learn something practical. Keep it up