No it also depends on the martial art and the training process. For example the karate guard with hands down isn't effective today when there are more evolved martial arts.
@@TomRiddle-2 I train Karate and I can tell you guard is the most basic technique you learn, and it's not with the hands down, in fact it always keeps in position at the level of your chest even when you switch from technique to technique.
@@TomRiddle-2 I think you Really didn't understand karate, A true karate master is a master of distance control and is always prepared to counter attacking is never unprotected.
Fantastic Video and I love the fact that you used clips of Karate Combat as well as MMA, Knockdown Karate, and Sport Karate to showcase these techniques.
these are awesome clips, I mostly use boxing but lately i have become obsessed with gleaning from karate so thank you for putting this together it is super helpful
Back in the early 70s I had a Karate instructor named Walt Bone. I believe that's him getting a stiff one in the face at 6:00. I remember him having a broken nose and competing anyway with face protection. You want to read a good vintage era karate book, read Who Killed Walt Bone.
Was always like this when I was growing up. Actually it’s a really important point in terms of combat effectiveness. Gloves change the game *a lot*. They allow a much wider variety of hand strikes and different types of guard like peek-a-boo. Karate on the other hand assumes no gloves so favours straight punches, which are less risky to the striker, body shots, and emphasises hand conditioning and a longer guard. This is what the mma/Muay Thai is everything crowd don’t like to admit. Gloves allow unrealistic striking.
I don't like karate at least the new one where's they only allowed punch and kick and removed all the other components like throws, join lock and grappling yeah you heard me right because the old ways of karate are designed for self defense.
@@TheAnsonysc it is very much a must, if you dont spar you will not actually be able to use any of the moves you have learnt against a resisting opponent, the chaos of real fights quickly out does people who only drill technique. There is so much footage of people that practice martial arts that don't spar being run to the ground by combat sports athletes, both in the ring and in the streets.
Great video. In the thumbnail for this there's 3 people punching. The middle one is Machida, but couldn't make out the other two either side. Anyone know? Thanks.
amazing!! switched from JKA + Kyoukushin to a local Shaolin Sanda to try out full contact rules, although im still gonna practice Kyokushin tho, i hope i can learn to use the techniques in the video on my sparring!
Karate had the right idea when it came to to their punching technique. Body and hip rotation, lat/back involvement and punching with mostly the strong first 2 knuckles of the hand. Karate punching isn't the best defensively and multi-angled striking isn't as emphasized but I found that training it's style of punching developed such an amazing base of power and allowed me to punch heavy bags and other hard things with not a worry in the world aside from maybe overuse injury and the occasional cuts and misaligned punches. Also, where's the overhand?
i agree! but i thought the overhand was the “mawashi tsuki” at 8:19. just a different name. please correct me if im wrong though! either way, this punch feels so good when you pull it off 😂
@@RoadRunne I suppose Karate simply didn't have a name to describe what an overhand punch is, or doesn't really bother distinguishing them, and the timestamp you showed me is definitely an overhand. But they are different from hooks or "Mawashi Tsuki", mainly in the way they come towards the opponent. With the overhand usually going straight towards an opponent while hooks usually go around and into the opponent. And yeah, I can agree. Especially for short people like me (157cm), the overhand is easily one of the most powerful and satisfying punches to land. So much body rotation and involvement comes into the strike that it's insane.
@@joh_kun5530 That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for educating me! Nice to find people on here who hold good knowledge to share on this subject. I’m still relatively new so I have a lot to learn. I was also taught that “Mawashi Tsuki” was a “roundhouse punch” or hook. If there is a name for the overhand, I would love to learn what it is one day. Either way, it’s a great punch which I certainly intend on keeping in my arsenal haha. And I definitely relate as a shorter build. As you said, you can generate a lot of power with it. Thanks for your time and efforts to form a well thought out response sir. I appreciate the learning opportunity
@@stanclark3992 The internal musculature...being what? The hips? Lats? Shoulders? Core rotation? What internal musculature to allow for the rotation that generates the power that Karate is supposed to be known for? And uhh, don't you think people who put their hips and legs with their punches have the spirit and mental intent to knock the daylights out of anyone? Also, I don't know about you, but I don't even train karate but I have the punching mechanics down, specifically in the Kata. In a basic Karate Kata punch, you are supposed to twist your hips then bring it back to center, or add the hip rotation, involve the back with your punch to pull it forth and use the back even further for the Hikite. And even with the sideways stance if you have eyes to see, you can notice a lot of these Shotokan masters adds involvement with the hips and legs to their rear hand power strikes. By the way, if "True" Karate has no hip rotation, I don't want True Karate. Give me Kyokushin, Uechi-Ryu, Motobu-Ryu or Kudo instead if it turns out that they aren't "True Karate". Hip rotation with Kyokushin punches is even more emphasized thanks to the more squared off stance, and you see how that school of karate produces so many great power punches. Go to those schools and see what's up there.
Karate is the grandfather of modern striking. Karate used to fight against muay thai and would win and lose but because of these matches kickboxing was eventually born. The first kickboxing fighters were all karatekas, eventually kickboxing would be influenced by muay thai and boxing but karate is it's roots. Karate, boxing and muay thai are the 3 styles where every striking style comes from.
@@theursidaepugilist The sideways and in-and-out stance that Karate and a lot of other modern East Asian TCMs tend to be known for could also be attributed to Savate, which is one of the earlier widespread kick-based martial arts to become global. Although there are many "styles" of Karate, a more squared, flat footed stance and heavier emphasis on wrestling was likely more common in the older times of Karate. After all, for self defense purposes that style was the most practical for most people. Choki Motobu or Mas Oyama are good examples of this.
A punch of a properly trained karateka usually sends an opponent death it's not even something to compare,it just most people don't consider it, I remember knocking out a black belt sempai and I was just a beginner,he passed out thank God he quickly recovered
That's only if the Karateka has gone through years of hand hardening training and punches with all his might in the most vulnerable parts of the body. I've seen footage of Karatekas using their spearhand and actually stabbing their fingers through the flesh of a pig carcass, but there's no way a beginner could get close to that without shattering their fingers, not even close.
@@mrd2392 look up kyokushin tameshiwari, theres a video of old school kyokushin karatekas breaking bricks, glass bottles, baseball bats and fruit with their hands and legs. The ones that impressed me the most was the part where a karateka pierces an entire watermelon with a spearhead, and then another karateka piercing a pig carcass with a spear hand. Yes people probably did break their fingers often practicing it, but some of them actually attained the ability to do it effectively.
There are some exceptions in karate and very dependent on some incredible individuals. I give western boxing the edge in punching and evading blows. Mr. Miyagi said, And I am paraphrasing. Don't be standing in one spot when the strike is coming your way!"
@@Karubitea yeah but that’s most if not all of what most people joining a Karate class will be doing. Standing still, until they either learn about combat sports, quit fighting or continue standing still
@@JeremyConners Yes they do that in class because it's teaching fundamentals. It's not meant to be taken literally into combat just like how you don't literally do push-ups in combat. In full contact sparring you can visibly see how its applied. Karate Combat is a great example.
@@JeremyConners But the fundamental training being restrictive is important because it easier to place restrictions and teach the right way, than to let them go into live fighting straightaway where they just compound bad habits that are harder to unlearn down the road. To your second point, it's fine if not all people learning Karate don't get good at fighting. There are people of all kinds who take on martial arts for various reasons. Just like how some people take on Boxing for fitness reasons, so do some people who take on Karate. And it's fine. The people who are truly interested in combat will proceed on their own to learn the parts useful for combat.
Yes, I still have a scar 50 years later front getting punched above the eye in a competition. Blood everywhere, they put a butterfly bandage on it and then I was taken to a table where Sensei Nishiyama gave his approval for me to keep fighting. We did not use gloves and nobody got penalized for hard contact to the body only to the face. Of course, I suffered other injuries common in karate training; a big black eye after getting knocked down, broken fingers and broken toes and various facial cuts. My karate buddy had his retina detachment by a round house kick to the face. I wish I could see a match between Frank Smith (60's & 70's JKA legendary fighter) and Lyoto Machida. But it can never happen. I like what Lyoto Machida and his brother have done to make a karate fighter much more rounded . Lyoto defeated some of the best fighters the UFC could throw at him. Lyoto's dad trained with many karate masters including Nishiyama Sensei.
I train in Goju-Ryu, and I was always confused why we practiced our tsukis with one hand stuck to our side (hikite). My sensei said that we train so we could end a fight with one punch, with the hikite being the hand that pulls an opponent's arm out of the way. The techique being sharp and straight is to give the maximum amount of power and speed to theoretically end a fight if you hit someone in the right spot. In short, it's a self defense strike. When i started to box, my coach said that every blow can be a knockout as well as a setup, or viceversa. That's why in combat sports, people practice boxing for their punches simply because there are more practical options for a fight, while karate focuses heavily into perfecting a strike so it may end a fight as soon as possible.
Dans ces attitudes des combats ,il faut appliquer La théorie SENSEN NO SEN ;IL FAUT attaquer quand l'adversaire pense À ATTAQUER donc il ne faut pas laisser réfléchir à son attaque ou contre attaque. Il faut que vous rentriez avant son attaque Jun zuki Ken kyu ,même s'il se trouve à mi-chemin.Lancez"frappez dans le vide ,il serait touché. Propulser votre corps par le pied arrière, comme le départ de 100m en Athlètisme.
Great video! but Today Shotokan karate is more mainstream this video shows how kyokushin karate can be powerful. Also Those MMA clips almost have 0 techniques application Punches thrown In the clips are either muay thai or boxing
Why doesn’t at least one style of karate incorporate western boxing into their system? Imagine the effectiveness of an adult karate practitioner who has been training western boxing style punches,starting as a child, along with the karate kicks, the quick jumping in and out striking range, the sweeps,etc. It would be awesome. With UFC Champion Chuck Liddell we saw the effectiveness of a karate practitioner who grew up also doing folkstyle wrestling. I want to see the same with a karate/western boxing hybrid in high level MMA.
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The thing people forget is, if any kind of punch from any kind of martial art hits you with reasonable power it can enact damage. Am not daring to offend karate as I used to do it but tribalism in the arts is not good.
Search Kamae Dachi. That defensive posture is similar to the old stance of bareknuckle boxing and you can find it in old karate manuals such as Karate Jutsu Kumite from Motobu Choki.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 i have to search the books ;i’m a fan of karate timing and kicks I also like the blitz and the straight punches But to me dropping to the waist the non punching hand is an huge risk Yes karatekas have insane footwork but if someone catch you you’re with no protection of arms hand ,is a clean hit Of course you have not to take the hand glued to the face but at the face level with your arms tight to te body The guard that i see named kamae dachi seem good for the situation but the problem to me is when you punch when you attack I don’t understand maybe the balance but i’m suspicius
Less emphasis on striking the head, and easier to intercept takedowns by moving your arms closer to a position where you can take an underhook (The sideways stance does conflict with this since it makes people more prone to leg-attack takedowns and leg kicks). It also does move your hand closer to the hip which'd allow for more power when striking the body and allows you to extend your rangefinding and jabbing hand further than with a more squared and hands up stance.. This style is however, better for fighters who are taller and with a longer reach, as it is easier to lean away or roll from a punch and allow longer range weapons to attack.
Maybe you noticed that all the movies from karate competition are from the old good time many years ago when karate was karate not that modern jumping for 3 minutes with the points for touching opponent. These movies are wonderful showing all beauty of karate fight: concentration and hit not as it is now jumping jumping touching touching...winer!
Esto sería mucho mejor si viajese a Chumbilvicas a participar del Takanakuy para revalidar su cinturón negro del décimo primer DAN. Haber si le sirve efectivamente el KARATE .
I am 2 nd dan gojuryu karate an i also trained muay thay und boxing and so one. The problem of karate is no cover of the head. Its good to stop an agressor by shoot him outvfrom the hip. Gyakuztuki, before the agressor see whats comming. But in the fight COVER YOUR HEAD!❤
Please do a video of "Aikido is an effective martial art that will make a 100lbs girl able to defeat a 250lbs muscle man without using a gun". I know its impossible, but please try.
The best Fighter is the one who knows how to work his own Weaknesses, if you don't have Power Punch refine your technique like Floyd did and fight Defensively.
Im a karate guy and there is so much bs in karate thats the problem. Even kyokushin was becoming more and more unrealistic w the no head punch rule. Most succesful karate fighters learned boxing
I like karate I train Hawaiian kenpo I do understand that not all karate is the same it's kind of like trying to learn sambo in america but it just ain't russian sambo.
The fundamental difference is they don't have advanced mechanics of modern boxing such as bob & weave, shoulder roll with pivot, peek a boo, shuffle and so on.
Its all about a coordination of smaller muscles working together...the Western ego is verychildish and thinks only in isolated use of bigger muscles and aggression
@@theursidaepugilist obviously we start from the gross to get to the subtle, from technique to no technique ,from ego to no ego....all a process of refinement , that is the way! A good example, of which there are many , may be found in the development of Morehei Ueshiba or even Bruce Lee if he had not sacrificed himself in Hollywood and its evil mandates!
for example Floyd Mayweather no matter how long he trains boxing he will never have Roberto Durán Power Punch, Some guys are just born with Power Punch.
Karate or any any form of striking can be efective the main down fall is the lack of protecting the head for mma the chin is straight up in the air and they only move back and forward which is easy to time karate is good when thats the sport or rule set but try to use it on a real figjter and your going to sleep trust me iv never seen a karate figjter win a title ever! They do ok but never end up on top leoto in the ufc is the perfect exsample did well but couldnt beat the best or stay on top no wresling or boxing skills hed just blitz fwd and never protect his head if you want to be a good fighter learn to protect your self while you strike, put me in a ring with any karate fighter any! Theyr going to sleep i garantee it!!!!!!
A boxing punch may seem more effective because it originates from the chin and works on a similar principle to a karate punch, and its faster. When I see karate practitioners using their punch, I imagine them facing a boxer who could easily neutralize them. The karate punch is too visible, and karate practitioners are not accustomed to keeping their chin down, tend to overreach to reach their target distance, or even jump, which can cause them to have one foot off the ground upon impact, reducing the effectiveness of their punch. Can someone change my opinion, please?
Every style has its' drawbacks, and boxing is no exception. Boxers do not condition their hands for no protection fighting, they train and fight with no shirts, they have no grappling whatsoever, and they have no kicks at all. Is boxing superior in a boxing ring? Of course it is. But in the outside world, Karate practitioners are trained to use weapons like sticks and poles, and also take downs. It really depends on the situation. But why do people compare boxing and Karate competitions? They have entirely different rule sets. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
Boxing is deeper regarding punching, no doubt. But real traditional shotokan for example has throw downs, kicks knees, palm strikes, elbows, chops, forearm strikes, sweeps and joint locks... If karate is trained fully, I think a boxer is way more limited
@@blockmasterscott yes Karatekas tend to have fewer hand injuries because of their good hand conditioning however boxers are good in and out of the ring; they can be in and out of your range when need be. There is always room for improving a martial art.
He was the teacher of my teacher also. Ray Dalke was my Sensei. I was fortunate to do all my belt exams with Nishiyama Sensei and be a student in the classes he taught at summer camp in San Diego. That was a good era for bringing karate to the U.S. and Nishiyama was the best. He dedicated his entire life to teaching karate and taught all over the world.
Karate striking techniques are great, but the footwork is too linear and planted. Sparring with a traditional karate fighter is like fighting a monorail. They are great at rushing forward and throwing strong strikes from up close but very weak at circling or conserving energy. If you can't get out of the way or try to brawl with them at close range you're dead. But if you can angle out, strike, and keep circling they take a while to recover from rushing in and tire out after one or two rushes. Strike a traditional karate fighter from side steps, circle, keep them constantly turning, and bait out the rushes until they are breathing heavy. Don't take them head on! Machida uses karate strikes, but his footwork when he isn't striking is 100% boxing.
That is true, many karate people are "railtrack fighters". I think that comes from the prevalence of the Shotokan style, which is extremely linear. In theory, there's an extensive footwork curriculum in karate but in practice it's thrown out the window. I guess it's the tournament one shot competition format. They wanna rush in, land the blow and get the point. What happens after that, they don't care.
I can say that it is overall a pretty reliable style and stance for people who are naturally explosive or have great reach with both the legs and the arms. Modern shotokan and kenpo footwork with a prevalent bounce alleviates some of the inflexibility of the traditional stances, and allows a karateka to go in and out of striking range. Very true that it does fall apart against great and multiangled pressure, and is massively disadvantageous if the practicioner ever finds themselves pinned to a clinch or wrestled.
No funciona , tienen razón las personas , solo funcionan las peleas de la provincia Chumbivilcas en las peleas del Takanakuy. Eso sí es el verdadero Karate. Ya comprendió usted ,el karate estilizado que practican en Japón no sirven para , allá en Japón en la Región de Okinawa si practican el verdadero Karate que es casi parecido al Takanakuy
I love when someone says Muay Thai power or Boxing/ Karate power, Power Punch is genetic look Ko power is a natural talent some people it's born with Power in his hands others not.
Nah ! Boxing punch is more precision and faster than karate punch but karate punch is more powerful than boxing punch ! It’s more like one hit one kill !
@@brazenbull5501 I know but karate punch is another story of that ! Boxing punch is like taekwondo kick which is so fast and so accurate while karate punch is like Muay Thai kick, one hit one down or die ! Game over !
remember kids all Martial Art can be effective, It all depends on the Athlete and always maintain an open mind you can learn much this way.
No it also depends on the martial art and the training process. For example the karate guard with hands down isn't effective today when there are more evolved martial arts.
@@TomRiddle-2 I train Karate and I can tell you guard is the most basic technique you learn, and it's not with the hands down, in fact it always keeps in position at the level of your chest even when you switch from technique to technique.
Observe when you throw a punch the other hand is not protecting the chin, instead it is down on the stomach. That was I pointing out.
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@@TomRiddle-2 I think you Really didn't understand karate, A true karate master is a master of distance control and is always prepared to counter attacking is never unprotected.
Fantastic Video and I love the fact that you used clips of Karate Combat as well as MMA, Knockdown Karate, and Sport Karate to showcase these techniques.
these are awesome clips, I mostly use boxing but lately i have become obsessed with gleaning from karate so thank you for putting this together it is super helpful
i love this era where martial arts are borrowing and mixing from each other, there are really no losers in it
Back in the early 70s I had a Karate instructor named Walt Bone. I believe that's him getting a stiff one in the face at 6:00. I remember him having a broken nose and competing anyway with face protection. You want to read a good vintage era karate book, read Who Killed Walt Bone.
@Mr. Derpface Woman Guy No no. Walt Bone has been dead for years.
Old school fighters were and are the hardest 😎
Where did you find karate matches with bare knuckle punches to the face? That’s extremely rare
Was always like this when I was growing up. Actually it’s a really important point in terms of combat effectiveness. Gloves change the game *a lot*. They allow a much wider variety of hand strikes and different types of guard like peek-a-boo. Karate on the other hand assumes no gloves so favours straight punches, which are less risky to the striker, body shots, and emphasises hand conditioning and a longer guard. This is what the mma/Muay Thai is everything crowd don’t like to admit. Gloves allow unrealistic striking.
I think it's called Seidokaikan?
It’s just Kumite ain’t it, but from the 80’s where it was full contact. Not like this Olympic tapping crap you see.
@@vashthefortress actually this is old JKA rule fights, seidokaikan is a bit different
Originally muay thaï didn't use gloves. They would just wrap their hands in ropes.
Great examples. You got all my favourite ones in there!
The nerve of some people to say karate doesn't work.
Because many teacher dont teach a hard sparring.
They make,blue and Brown belt who Never doing hard sparring.
I don't like karate at least the new one where's they only allowed punch and kick and removed all the other components like throws, join lock and grappling yeah you heard me right because the old ways of karate are designed for self defense.
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616 you must see : seidokaikan karaté , shidokan, pankido, Kudo.
@@TheKickeur Is it a must & does it necessary? If not, why need it?
@@TheAnsonysc it is very much a must, if you dont spar you will not actually be able to use any of the moves you have learnt against a resisting opponent, the chaos of real fights quickly out does people who only drill technique. There is so much footage of people that practice martial arts that don't spar being run to the ground by combat sports athletes, both in the ring and in the streets.
Morio higaonna young,was very dangerous !
These bare knuckle punches looked ridiculously brutal 😮
Karate + Jiu-Jitsu = 💥
Great video. In the thumbnail for this there's 3 people punching. The middle one is Machida, but couldn't make out the other two either side. Anyone know? Thanks.
amazing!! switched from JKA + Kyoukushin to a local Shaolin Sanda to try out full contact rules, although im still gonna practice Kyokushin tho, i hope i can learn to use the techniques in the video on my sparring!
06:22 kagi-zuki (鉤突き. kagi 鉤 means hook). Not kagE.
Love the sportsmanship @5:42
Karate had the right idea when it came to to their punching technique. Body and hip rotation, lat/back involvement and punching with mostly the strong first 2 knuckles of the hand. Karate punching isn't the best defensively and multi-angled striking isn't as emphasized but I found that training it's style of punching developed such an amazing base of power and allowed me to punch heavy bags and other hard things with not a worry in the world aside from maybe overuse injury and the occasional cuts and misaligned punches. Also, where's the overhand?
i agree! but i thought the overhand was the “mawashi tsuki” at 8:19. just a different name. please correct me if im wrong though! either way, this punch feels so good when you pull it off 😂
@@RoadRunne I suppose Karate simply didn't have a name to describe what an overhand punch is, or doesn't really bother distinguishing them, and the timestamp you showed me is definitely an overhand. But they are different from hooks or "Mawashi Tsuki", mainly in the way they come towards the opponent. With the overhand usually going straight towards an opponent while hooks usually go around and into the opponent.
And yeah, I can agree. Especially for short people like me (157cm), the overhand is easily one of the most powerful and satisfying punches to land. So much body rotation and involvement comes into the strike that it's insane.
@@joh_kun5530 That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for educating me! Nice to find people on here who hold good knowledge to share on this subject. I’m still relatively new so I have a lot to learn. I was also taught that “Mawashi Tsuki” was a “roundhouse punch” or hook. If there is a name for the overhand, I would love to learn what it is one day. Either way, it’s a great punch which I certainly intend on keeping in my arsenal haha. And I definitely relate as a shorter build. As you said, you can generate a lot of power with it. Thanks for your time and efforts to form a well thought out response sir. I appreciate the learning opportunity
@@stanclark3992 why it doesn't work against anyone with training, usually.
@@stanclark3992 The internal musculature...being what? The hips? Lats? Shoulders? Core rotation? What internal musculature to allow for the rotation that generates the power that Karate is supposed to be known for? And uhh, don't you think people who put their hips and legs with their punches have the spirit and mental intent to knock the daylights out of anyone? Also, I don't know about you, but I don't even train karate but I have the punching mechanics down, specifically in the Kata. In a basic Karate Kata punch, you are supposed to twist your hips then bring it back to center, or add the hip rotation, involve the back with your punch to pull it forth and use the back even further for the Hikite. And even with the sideways stance if you have eyes to see, you can notice a lot of these Shotokan masters adds involvement with the hips and legs to their rear hand power strikes.
By the way, if "True" Karate has no hip rotation, I don't want True Karate. Give me Kyokushin, Uechi-Ryu, Motobu-Ryu or Kudo instead if it turns out that they aren't "True Karate". Hip rotation with Kyokushin punches is even more emphasized thanks to the more squared off stance, and you see how that school of karate produces so many great power punches. Go to those schools and see what's up there.
Kyoji Horiguchi is my hero
Karate is the grandfather of modern striking.
Karate used to fight against muay thai and would win and lose but because of these matches kickboxing was eventually born.
The first kickboxing fighters were all karatekas, eventually kickboxing would be influenced by muay thai and boxing but karate is it's roots.
Karate, boxing and muay thai are the 3 styles where every striking style comes from.
That probably go to boxing as modern karate was influenced by boxing but karate had huge influence on striking with kickboxing.
@@theursidaepugilist The sideways and in-and-out stance that Karate and a lot of other modern East Asian TCMs tend to be known for could also be attributed to Savate, which is one of the earlier widespread kick-based martial arts to become global.
Although there are many "styles" of Karate, a more squared, flat footed stance and heavier emphasis on wrestling was likely more common in the older times of Karate. After all, for self defense purposes that style was the most practical for most people. Choki Motobu or Mas Oyama are good examples of this.
"Karate is the grandfather of modern striking."
I think you misspelled boxing mate.
That was really nice seeing the end of Heian Sandan used in application! 👍
Katsunori kikuno was rocking Tony Ferguson with that same punch
I’m an ex boxer and coach,this is interesting and looks effective 👏
A punch of a properly trained karateka usually sends an opponent death it's not even something to compare,it just most people don't consider it, I remember knocking out a black belt sempai and I was just a beginner,he passed out thank God he quickly recovered
That's only if the Karateka has gone through years of hand hardening training and punches with all his might in the most vulnerable parts of the body. I've seen footage of Karatekas using their spearhand and actually stabbing their fingers through the flesh of a pig carcass, but there's no way a beginner could get close to that without shattering their fingers, not even close.
@@DavidHernandez-dk1zs bro,people stop train spear hand because of too many broken fingers
@@mrd2392 look up kyokushin tameshiwari, theres a video of old school kyokushin karatekas breaking bricks, glass bottles, baseball bats and fruit with their hands and legs. The ones that impressed me the most was the part where a karateka pierces an entire watermelon with a spearhead, and then another karateka piercing a pig carcass with a spear hand. Yes people probably did break their fingers often practicing it, but some of them actually attained the ability to do it effectively.
@@DavidHernandez-dk1zs yeah, some not all. That is why they dont do that anymore
And after that many people will say “karate is not working”😅?
What style of Karate is it which is seen here with punches to the face, with the participants wearing a gi? Thanks.
Mostly shotokan, but under JKA rules. Way cooler than WKF (the light touch point tournaments with red/blue gloves and belts)
There are some exceptions in karate and very dependent on some incredible individuals. I give western boxing the edge in punching and evading blows. Mr. Miyagi said, And I am paraphrasing. Don't be standing in one spot when the strike is coming your way!"
They don't stand in one spot in actual fighting. The stances are only emphasized during training to build strong fundamentals.
@@Karubitea yeah but that’s most if not all of what most people joining a Karate class will be doing. Standing still, until they either learn about combat sports, quit fighting or continue standing still
@@JeremyConners Yes they do that in class because it's teaching fundamentals. It's not meant to be taken literally into combat just like how you don't literally do push-ups in combat. In full contact sparring you can visibly see how its applied. Karate Combat is a great example.
@@JeremyConners But the fundamental training being restrictive is important because it easier to place restrictions and teach the right way, than to let them go into live fighting straightaway where they just compound bad habits that are harder to unlearn down the road.
To your second point, it's fine if not all people learning Karate don't get good at fighting. There are people of all kinds who take on martial arts for various reasons. Just like how some people take on Boxing for fitness reasons, so do some people who take on Karate. And it's fine. The people who are truly interested in combat will proceed on their own to learn the parts useful for combat.
@@Karubitea that was really well put, except that first bit. There’s usually a middle ground between immediate live practice and… practice.
That speed thou...even a fly would died
Excellent video!
Make one pf the kicks pls
Old JKA tournies are brutal. I'd imagine some of those fighters dropped a tooth or two.
Yes, I still have a scar 50 years later front getting punched above the eye in a competition. Blood everywhere, they put a butterfly bandage on it and then I was taken to a table where Sensei Nishiyama gave his approval for me to keep fighting. We did not use gloves and nobody got penalized for hard contact to the body only to the face. Of course, I suffered other injuries common in karate training; a big black eye after getting knocked down, broken fingers and broken toes and various facial cuts. My karate buddy had his retina detachment by a round house kick to the face. I wish I could see a match between Frank Smith (60's & 70's JKA legendary fighter) and Lyoto Machida. But it can never happen. I like what Lyoto Machida and his brother have done to make a karate fighter much more rounded . Lyoto defeated some of the best fighters the UFC could throw at him. Lyoto's dad trained with many karate masters including Nishiyama Sensei.
Thé question is not only to generate power but then to rearm quickly. Therefore the ideal is to find a balance between those two criteria
Essence of tiger drop, right here
I train in Goju-Ryu, and I was always confused why we practiced our tsukis with one hand stuck to our side (hikite).
My sensei said that we train so we could end a fight with one punch, with the hikite being the hand that pulls an opponent's arm out of the way. The techique being sharp and straight is to give the maximum amount of power and speed to theoretically end a fight if you hit someone in the right spot.
In short, it's a self defense strike. When i started to box, my coach said that every blow can be a knockout as well as a setup, or viceversa.
That's why in combat sports, people practice boxing for their punches simply because there are more practical options for a fight, while karate focuses heavily into perfecting a strike so it may end a fight as soon as possible.
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Im a black belt Karate shotokan and proud!
I love karate, I love boxing. My style in MMA is karate boxing
Isn’t that kick-boxing?
@@jtcruz125 yeah but like it is but like you know it is but is the same but like you see the difference is that you the thing like you know
Amazing power punch 👍🏻
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What is the name of the song? Great motivational Shotokan video
I do kickboxing and holy molly the guy from karate his defense n punch bend me every time I don’t like sparring with him
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Gsp was the best he leart to do it all in the end but started with karate it was his art but he was smart enpugh to know he had to learn more ❤
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As a Kyokushin and Grappler, I love this video. Osu!
Great video
Karate punch is not the fastest or the most precision but karate punch is the most powerful punch in the world !
Dans ces attitudes des combats ,il faut appliquer La théorie SENSEN NO SEN ;IL FAUT attaquer quand l'adversaire pense À ATTAQUER donc il ne faut pas laisser réfléchir à son attaque ou contre attaque. Il faut que vous rentriez avant son attaque Jun zuki Ken kyu ,même s'il se trouve à mi-chemin.Lancez"frappez dans le vide ,il serait touché. Propulser votre corps par le pied arrière, comme le départ de 100m en Athlètisme.
Great video! but Today Shotokan karate is more mainstream this video shows how kyokushin karate can be powerful. Also Those MMA clips almost have 0 techniques application Punches thrown In the clips are either muay thai or boxing
Karate is actually more useful in small glove fighting vs w big boxing gloves
Why doesn’t at least one style of karate incorporate western boxing into their system? Imagine the effectiveness of an adult karate practitioner who has been training western boxing style punches,starting as a child, along with the karate kicks, the quick jumping in and out striking range, the sweeps,etc. It would be awesome.
With UFC Champion Chuck Liddell we saw the effectiveness of a karate practitioner who grew up also
doing folkstyle wrestling. I want to see the same with a karate/western boxing hybrid in high level MMA.
Thats literally Robert Whittaker.
Boxing punch is short range as well as rotational. Karate idea is not to punch but to stick in a straight line to extend the range
It’s called Kickboxing
Kiikushikai karate has boxing and Thai boxing very effective
Japanese Kickboxing basically
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The thing people forget is, if any kind of punch from any kind of martial art hits you with reasonable power it can enact damage. Am not daring to offend karate as I used to do it but tribalism in the arts is not good.
I don’t understand why in karate you don’t have the hand high to parry or protect the face from kicks and punches
Search Kamae Dachi. That defensive posture is similar to the old stance of bareknuckle boxing and you can find it in old karate manuals such as Karate Jutsu Kumite from Motobu Choki.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 i have to search the books ;i’m a fan of karate timing and kicks
I also like the blitz and the straight punches
But to me dropping to the waist the non punching hand is an huge risk
Yes karatekas have insane footwork but if someone catch you you’re with no protection of arms hand ,is a clean hit
Of course you have not to take the hand glued to the face but at the face level with your arms tight to te body
The guard that i see named kamae dachi seem good for the situation but the problem to me is when you punch when you attack
I don’t understand maybe the balance but i’m suspicius
Less emphasis on striking the head, and easier to intercept takedowns by moving your arms closer to a position where you can take an underhook (The sideways stance does conflict with this since it makes people more prone to leg-attack takedowns and leg kicks). It also does move your hand closer to the hip which'd allow for more power when striking the body and allows you to extend your rangefinding and jabbing hand further than with a more squared and hands up stance..
This style is however, better for fighters who are taller and with a longer reach, as it is easier to lean away or roll from a punch and allow longer range weapons to attack.
It's like the old Irish boxing that you see pictures of. You see it in MMA when the two guys approach each other, they often have the lead hand out.
@@joh_kun5530 that’s what i need thanks
The Martial art of Firearms is far superior. But it is a good idea for every man to know how to handle himself if caught with no firearm.
Maybe you noticed that all the movies from karate competition are from the old good time many years ago when karate was karate not that modern jumping for 3 minutes with the points for touching opponent. These movies are wonderful showing all beauty of karate fight: concentration and hit not as it is now jumping jumping touching touching...winer!
You're right as one can be right. I hate this jumping point scoring kumite so much I can't tell you...
@@ottokarvonschnallenburg2572 thanks many!
Any fool can punch without control it takes a master to be in control and affective...ego is the obstacle!
Esto sería mucho mejor si viajese a Chumbilvicas a participar del Takanakuy para revalidar su cinturón negro del décimo primer DAN. Haber si le sirve efectivamente el KARATE .
Tsuki. And only Kudo and Kyokushin that works.
一拳就打跌人，原來係來自黑帶高階的空手道，專打對方的,下巴，頸側尼D脆弱容易暈低的弱點，真是聰明。一恨水恨力。
How about a Muay Thai kick?
I am 2 nd dan gojuryu karate an i also trained muay thay und boxing and so one. The problem of karate is no cover of the head. Its good to stop an agressor by shoot him outvfrom the hip. Gyakuztuki, before the agressor see whats comming. But in the fight COVER YOUR HEAD!❤
オリンピック種目の組手？？ノンノン！これが伝統派の組手よ
K1 is the only real karate left and real karate is basically just modern kickboxing
Karate is just a watered down version of the tang hands. It’s lost it’s punching power.
Please do a video of "Aikido is an effective martial art that will make a 100lbs girl able to defeat a 250lbs muscle man without using a gun". I know its impossible, but please try.
The best Fighter is the one who knows how to work his own Weaknesses, if you don't have Power Punch refine your technique like Floyd did and fight Defensively.
Im a karate guy and there is so much bs in karate thats the problem. Even kyokushin was becoming more and more unrealistic w the no head punch rule. Most succesful karate fighters learned boxing
Karate is almost all about counter striking.
We call this kudo no ?
Boxing is more Affective
I like karate I train Hawaiian kenpo I do understand that not all karate is the same it's kind of like trying to learn sambo in america but it just ain't russian sambo.
walking in a straight line, no upper body movement, hands by their waists, chin up, WTF is this???
So boxing?
The fundamental difference is they don't have advanced mechanics of modern boxing such as bob & weave, shoulder roll with pivot, peek a boo, shuffle and so on.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 I see the striking aspect only
the hardedst puches are karate punches
Its all about a coordination of smaller muscles working together...the Western ego is verychildish and thinks only in isolated use of bigger muscles and aggression
You talking about boxing,wrestling,savate,hema,fencing non of them use isolation of big muscles what would you be talking about?
@@theursidaepugilist obviously we start from the gross to get to the subtle, from technique to no technique ,from ego to no ego....all a process of refinement , that is the way!
A good example, of which there are many , may be found in the development of Morehei Ueshiba or even Bruce Lee if he had not sacrificed himself in Hollywood and its evil mandates!
@@tonykuli Still didn't answer where is this western ego martial art?
the mma is using boxing basics, twist from the hips--not karate punches
Let's test it against a boxer.
Did Karate for a long time but hitting an opponent who is on the ground is the signature from a Coward 😒
Unless your ensuring the person is not a threat.
for example Floyd Mayweather no matter how long he trains boxing he will never have Roberto Durán Power Punch, Some guys are just born with Power Punch.
Arent alot of these fouls? The full force head shots? I competed in point karate u werent allowed to do that
after seeing jones get rattled by a karate punch shit....that is all the proof i need to see lol
Half of these knock.outs would not be such if hand ward would be higher, and most of them are just jabs
Karate or any any form of striking can be efective the main down fall is the lack of protecting the head for mma the chin is straight up in the air and they only move back and forward which is easy to time karate is good when thats the sport or rule set but try to use it on a real figjter and your going to sleep trust me iv never seen a karate figjter win a title ever! They do ok but never end up on top leoto in the ufc is the perfect exsample did well but couldnt beat the best or stay on top no wresling or boxing skills hed just blitz fwd and never protect his head if you want to be a good fighter learn to protect your self while you strike, put me in a ring with any karate fighter any! Theyr going to sleep i garantee it!!!!!!
so, you have to run and punch--okay
A boxing punch may seem more effective because it originates from the chin and works on a similar principle to a karate punch, and its faster. When I see karate practitioners using their punch, I imagine them facing a boxer who could easily neutralize them. The karate punch is too visible, and karate practitioners are not accustomed to keeping their chin down, tend to overreach to reach their target distance, or even jump, which can cause them to have one foot off the ground upon impact, reducing the effectiveness of their punch. Can someone change my opinion, please?
Boxing is superior to karatepunches. Karate is to limited to striking sports as muay thai and boxing
Every style has its' drawbacks, and boxing is no exception. Boxers do not condition their hands for no protection fighting, they train and fight with no shirts, they have no grappling whatsoever, and they have no kicks at all.
Is boxing superior in a boxing ring? Of course it is. But in the outside world, Karate practitioners are trained to use weapons like sticks and poles, and also take downs.
It really depends on the situation. But why do people compare boxing and Karate competitions? They have entirely different rule sets. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
You will change your opinion after you receive those strikes you so underestimate to your face, neck, and solar plexus
Boxing is deeper regarding punching, no doubt. But real traditional shotokan for example has throw downs, kicks knees, palm strikes, elbows, chops, forearm strikes, sweeps and joint locks... If karate is trained fully, I think a boxer is way more limited
@@blockmasterscott yes Karatekas tend to have fewer hand injuries because of their good hand conditioning however boxers are good in and out of the ring; they can be in and out of your range when need be. There is always room for improving a martial art.
Shout out to Hidetaka Nishiyama, He was the teacher of my teacher. Dude was a demigod 😂❤
He was the teacher of my teacher also. Ray Dalke was my Sensei. I was fortunate to do all my belt exams with Nishiyama Sensei and be a student in the classes he taught at summer camp in San Diego. That was a good era for bringing karate to the U.S. and Nishiyama was the best. He dedicated his entire life to teaching karate and taught all over the world.
Karate striking techniques are great, but the footwork is too linear and planted. Sparring with a traditional karate fighter is like fighting a monorail. They are great at rushing forward and throwing strong strikes from up close but very weak at circling or conserving energy. If you can't get out of the way or try to brawl with them at close range you're dead. But if you can angle out, strike, and keep circling they take a while to recover from rushing in and tire out after one or two rushes. Strike a traditional karate fighter from side steps, circle, keep them constantly turning, and bait out the rushes until they are breathing heavy. Don't take them head on!
Machida uses karate strikes, but his footwork when he isn't striking is 100% boxing.
That is true, many karate people are "railtrack fighters". I think that comes from the prevalence of the Shotokan style, which is extremely linear. In theory, there's an extensive footwork curriculum in karate but in practice it's thrown out the window. I guess it's the tournament one shot competition format. They wanna rush in, land the blow and get the point. What happens after that, they don't care.
I can say that it is overall a pretty reliable style and stance for people who are naturally explosive or have great reach with both the legs and the arms. Modern shotokan and kenpo footwork with a prevalent bounce alleviates some of the inflexibility of the traditional stances, and allows a karateka to go in and out of striking range.
Very true that it does fall apart against great and multiangled pressure, and is massively disadvantageous if the practicioner ever finds themselves pinned to a clinch or wrestled.
No funciona , tienen razón las personas , solo funcionan las peleas de la provincia Chumbivilcas en las peleas del Takanakuy.
Eso sí es el verdadero Karate.
Ya comprendió usted ,el karate estilizado que practican en Japón no sirven para , allá en Japón en la Región de Okinawa si practican el verdadero Karate que es casi parecido al Takanakuy
Some of these strikes are not Karate strikes they are just straight rights like in boxing.
Let me tell you, boxe doesn't owns the copyrights of the straight punches. Also, all striking martial arts have straight punches.
All martial arts have similiarities
Karate came before boxing.
@@someshwarmurmu817 Has anyone ever heard of Pankration ?
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kata doesn't generate power--looks good, but no power
But not matched with boxing
I love when someone says Muay Thai power or Boxing/ Karate power, Power Punch is genetic look Ko power is a natural talent some people it's born with Power in his hands others not.
It's not tsuki its a jab from boxing
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Lots of punches little power
It is stupid and lying to call boxing techniques karate🥊No🥋
all off balance!!! that could not go up against boxing
I don’t doubt Karate teaches you powerful punches, it’s just that boxing is so much better when it comes to learning how to punch.
Nah ! Boxing punch is more precision and faster than karate punch but karate punch is more powerful than boxing punch ! It’s more like one hit one kill !
@@blackangel1690 disagree. You can vary how you throw your punch. Boxing teaches you all of that.
@@brazenbull5501 I know but karate punch is another story of that ! Boxing punch is like taekwondo kick which is so fast and so accurate while karate punch is like Muay Thai kick, one hit one down or die ! Game over !
@@blackangel1690 you can do that with boxing too
@@brazenbull5501 Yes, but it not more powerful than karate punch !