The Lion King | Becoming a Man
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In this video I explore, through a Freudian perspective the archetypal story of growing up and becoming a man. How does Simba the Lion move through the different stages of childhood and masculinity to eventually become a man?
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This movie hits the feels in every way possible, story, characters, relationships, score, animation
It's a freaking masterpiece
This was the first cinematic experience I had as a child when I was 4 years old, my grandparents took my sister and I to see it. When the latest version was in the cinema, out of having nothing to do in particular this day I asked my 4 year old daughter if she would like to go to the cinema. The Lion King was playing and she agreed, wasn't till we were getting out of the car that it dawned on me that this is her first time at the cinema to see this same story I experienced. The themes of the film and my personal connection with it hit me so hard watching it and I even welled up in my seat, was such a beautiful moment I shared with my daughter.
my brother & i r twins & we were born in 1994 when it came out. we were due in february 1995 but we were preemies. our dad said we were so tiny that we fit in his hand. our doctors thought we werent gonna make it but they took good care of us & we did :) im glad the 3d version let us see it in theaters
you probably dont care but if you're stoned like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my girlfriend lately :)
@Armando Nicolas definitely, have been watching on instaflixxer for since november myself :)
@Armando Nicolas yea, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :D
It always bothered me that Simba felt so guilty about Mufasa’s death without reason, but there is a reason within the movie for it, and it’s super subtle, but it has to do with his roar. When Scar tells him to wait by the tree, he tells Simba to work on that little roar of his, and while he’s alone that’s exactly what he does, and in one point he manages to roar so loud it echoes. At this time Scar gives the hyenas the signal to start the stampede, so now Simba ties his echoing roar to the stampede, hence why he feels so guilty!
I never saw it as subtle. I always thought that was evident. He roared loud, therefore he scared the herd and started the stampede.
Great point. It's also worth noting Scar shouldn't know about Simba's "little roar", after all Scar didn't reveal himself at the elephant graveyard. If he did, he would give away his connection to the hyenas.
(Un)fortunately Simba was too naive to realize this.
There are other bigger reasons as well. Remember, Simba was a kid and he was easily manipulated by Scar, who told him it was his fault. This is very easy to do with young children. Also self-blame is a part of grief. There are plenty of reasons for why Simba blamed himself.
I think it's way more obvious than that: if Simba hadn't been in the gorge when the stampede happened, he wouldn't need to be rescued and therefor Mufasa wouldn't have died trying to save him. Simba says, "The wildebeest, and he tried to save me...". They make it clear that Simba blames himself because he was the reason Mufasa ran into that stampede in the first place (at least that's what he believes, not knowing Scar's role in it all)
Simba really trusted Scar. When he found Simba next to Mufasa's body, he did not show anger, but compassion, and told him to run away. In Simba's eyes, the only reasonable thing to do was to listen to him, an adult he deemed trustworthy. Simba believed that if Scar hadn't told him to leave immediately, he wouldn't have survived. Simba felt like he was a disappointment to Mufasa prior to his death (because of his recklessness) and his fantasy of becoming the king became a reality, but in the worst way possible. He couldn't bear it, so he escaped. This, combined with all the other reasons mentioned in this thread, is why Scar's plan worked perfectly. He had anticipated everything: he preyed on his ingenuity, on his grief and on the bond he and Simba had.
Scar's motives go beyond his lust for power and are rooted in the troubled relationship with his brother: there are complex psychological issues at play here. His lack of remorse, his ability to mimic emotions, the premeditation and the manipulative behaviour make him a repulsive character and a very realistic and undoubtedly great villain.
Some like Solomon born in the shadow of his father end up feeling lost and unchallenged , which means he just indulges his passions and immediate wants thereby feeling weak and helpless. He ended up destroying the kingdom built by his father. What i am saying is that men need to build their own kingdoms in their own way and not rely on the glory of the father's accomplishment. You have to go and establish a separate identity from them. Build your own life- learn, work, invest, love, and eventually create a family. You live for your son , not your father.
This really is a perfect film in its retelling of the story of the hero. As jordan peterson says, it's the oldest story of mankind, and thus echos through every person that lives it or sees it.
I’m still not over mufasa’s death. 😔😔😔
:(
He lives in you!
I don't think we ever will be
This hits a bit too close to home. Thank you
I find myself as Simba the escapist again at 31, as I did at 23, and 16, and 11. But each in a different way, and Mufasa and how he looks in me has shown himself differently each time. Thank you for being my crazy baboon, Storytellers!
I was 6 when I first saw this. When Mufasa died I wanted to cry as losing a parent was one of my greatest fears. But I never let myself because even then I felt society's toxic pressure to make sure I was tough. I'm 29 now and while watching this decided to reach back and I found tremendous sadness still lurking there from this scene and cried my fucking eyes out in repayment to myself. Get fucked, society. You deserve everything you get.
You are the escapist
Did you sue Disney for 1 billion dollars?
Absolutely amazing video, a real shame about the copy rights taking so long to clear out, but worth the wait either way. Keep up the good work!
Fantastic video! It's such a shame this doesn't have that many views because this hit the nail on the head perfectly. I was actually going to do a similar video myself - analyzing The Lion King to show that masculinity is not toxic - but I suppose I might have to make a new spin on my version or just try to spread your essay far and wide. Anyway, great analysis.
I think that is a good angle - toxic masculinity. In ACT I Simba represents the toxic masculinity, and in ACT III he embodies the non-toxic, good kind of masculinity.
Am I the only one who think the creator misinterpreted the first half of the movie? Simba ran away because Scar manipulated him into thinking that his fathers death was his fault. Simba was a little kid who trusted his twisted uncle. Secondly, nowhere in the movie does Simba wants his dad to die so he can take his place as king. Simba thinks that being king is not having much responsibility. Mufasa tells him otherwise.
I agree. Simba doesn't connect the reality that to become king, first his dad must die. He's too innocent. A combination of the timing of his echoing roar, his father getting killed while saving him and scar's skillful manipulation trick his young mind into believing it's his fault.
This was one of my absolute favorite movies as a kid, this and Jurassic Park and Batman '89. I knew I had taste as a kid. 😆 This movie is so deep and emotionally resonant, it's unbelievable. Disney doesn't make stuff like this anymore, and it's really sad. The perfect example of this is how the 2019 remake essentially tries to wear the empty husk of the greatness of the original.
This is a really good analysis. You are different from other RUclips film-analysers. There's a lot of depth and structure to your thoughts and you connect them to existing philosophy/writing. Perfect!
Man finally I can watch this video! Damn those copyright issues Great content as always
This is a movie i can watch now at 26 and still enjoy. Maybe i enjoy it even more now lol great video!
my brother & i r twins & we’re 26 too. we were born in 1994 when it came out. we were due in february 95 but we were preemies. our dad said we were so tiny that we fit in his hand. our doctors thought we werent gonna make it but they took good care of us & we did
My dad's power was thunder...my power is power itself will power
There needs to be more video essays on The Lion King. I'm hoping with the 25 year anniversary and the update coming next year that we'll start to get more. I would love to see more retrospectives on the film, particularly the astronomical financial success and legacy the film has. It is still the highest grossing 2D animated film of all time. The stage show adaptation is the 3rd longest running stage show of all time, and as of December 2017....it had grossed $8.1 Billion globally, making the stage show the highest grossing entertainment property in history.
Next year the remake is 100% going to become the highest grossing 3D animated film of all time....and it honestly has a shot at being the highest grossing film of all time PERIOD. It is the only upcoming film that has a shot at Avatar.
The Lion King, as a singular film with the legacy of the stage show and remake on top of what the original film accomplished....may easily be argued as the single most successful film of all time.
at this point i expect you have watched the remake
This is a really solid reading. I appreciate the way you explained why Simba felt as guilty as he did, I've been trying to put those thoughts into words for years. The Jordan Peterson quote caught me off-guard because I don't care for him politically, but I do see the appeal of his philosophy when it's broken down to the basic elements of assuming responsibility and agency and not wallowing in self-indulgence. Self-actualization should definitely be a major goal in a person's life. At the same time, it seems to be typically pushed as a male coming of age narrative, and it's difficult for me to figure out where I fit into that. How do I learn how to grow up for my own sake and not for the sole purpose of conforming to the roles pushed on me? What do I center my life around as someone who aspires to neither manhood nor womanhood? Shouldn't the journey of personal growth and maturity be a universal one and not bent to benefit a particular group of people? I don't know if I'm really making sense, I just think there's a lot to unpack here.
As someone that has consumed a good chunk of JBP, i was ready to leap into the comments and compare this reading to him. Luckily i didn't have to, since the reading went on to mention him by name. I get the gut feeling that most of your exposure to JBP has been mediated through... media, and i urge you to go look him up directly, so as to get a clear picture of how much of his appeal is political, and how much of it is philosofical, or his views on psychology. If your knowledge of him match my expectations of your knowledge of him, i expect you to be surprised.
Maybe you'll find that you can't stand that his premises often are based on "biological truth" (men tend to be more this, women tend to be more that, generally), and that's up to you, but please listen to him directly, and use your own judgement on his ideas.
I admit that I haven't had any direct exposure to his work and I'd never want to make any absolute statements about him since I am not well-informed enough. That said, I don't feel particularly interested in seeking him out. If people get something good out of the things he says, that's great. It's just that I personally feel like I can find that elsewhere from someone who's more my type of person. Maybe I'll be curious about him at some point, but not currently.
Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Carl Jung? He is the prime inspiration and source for JBP's ideas on psychology and philosophy ( I mean, JBP considers himself a member of the Jungian School of Psychology). He was the guy who invented the concepts of Persona and Shadow, Introvert and Extrovert, Collective Unconcious, (essentially) Archythype (as is understood today) and many many others. If you are interested in JBP´s ideas and concepts but dislike his political baggage, maybe Jung is who you're searching for. If you're even a little interested I would recommend reading Demian by Hermann Hesse, a nice exposition to his philosophy in a (amazingly well-written) novel.
You put it perfectly. Jordan Peterson has atrocious views on race and sex, but outside of that I think he does a good job of phrasing big concepts in a way that is easily digestible and mainstream friendly.
@@Wearysiren3 What are the atrocious views on race and sex? I have yet to hear him say anything "atrocious" of either.
Wonderful analysis, wonderful movie. I like how you pointed out the archetypical nature of the story. Thank you
I understand if you never analyze another Disney property again after they suspended your video, but hot damn I'm glad to have seen this! Beautiful stuff. Thank you for persevering.
So do people not know that most of what Freud said has been disproven. I think this movie has more to do with shame. Simba feels shame for not being a strong as his father. He feels guilt for his death not because of any rational belief but because what if he was stronger and faster and smarter like his father. And his father would not have died. Rafiki reminds him that although the injury was in the past the pain can still remain. Instead of writing or hiding from the pain you must go back to it. And then going back to and facing his pain he realizes the qualities he needs to be just like his father. He understands his father was not simply perfect but ruled justly despite his pain. And then accepts the death of his father and understands that his father gave him the virtues inside of him to lead as his father dead and is once again reborn.
That was beautiful thank you stanger in the world
WOWWWWW what a detailed analysis. Really great, just a feedback, it would be nice to get proper subtitles inorder to understand the names that you talk about. Great work.
4:12 I think it being conscious would be contradicted by how Simba asks Mufasa if they'll always be together after he and Nala were saved from the hyenas.
It is sometimes difficult to understand what you are saying.
dude i'm not even a native English speaker and i find him easy to understand.
Just gotta do your best to feel through it. His video essays are worth it, in my opinion. It's just English with an accent. :)
Taymanator0051 both the narrator and Visboer Anton are dutch so I don't get it why he can't understand the narrator
Wouter Strik
He mompelt a beetje, like the big fat snoek that I caught yesterday. He could articulate somewhat better...
I just realized how his roar symbolizes agression. Simba believed his roar caused the stampede, which is why he tosses aside this agression as he thinks he can't control it. In the end, when the clears the clouds, it's done through a roar - a healthy display of controlled agression.
I want to see this video straight out of the gate, but I was privatized. I’m glad I can finally see it.
Looks like you had to go through your own heroes journey to get this video back
Send this to Confused Matthew!!! :D
Is he still relevant? Lol
Well - Samba from the same theory of being a teen would internalize his father’s death and didn’t scar messaging also guide him to internalize it?
I'm so glad that I can watch it now after all! You make great videos!
So far the only videoessay on youtube that gets it right
Dude, I love all your videos!
take a shot every time he says “infantile omnipotence”
Yeah its almost like repetition for the sake of emphasis...or sumthin'
daniel I read that as he said that
daniel I read that as he said it
My Favorite disney flick
I always love your videos.
Very good analysis. Great video!
Amazing analysis man!
so is competition good ?
Brilliant video!
ok but did we needs to quote jordan peterson
How do you get away with using clips from movies and TV without breaching copyright?
Great video!!
Awesome analysis!
Happy 30th anniversary to Disney's THE LION KING (1994)
I wish 0:26-0:32 could be done to me. That would feel so good
HELP! SEND LINK TO SONG USED @ 7:33! WHERE CAN I FIND IT?!? 👀👀👀
Its part of the lion king OST. just search for that :/
Elon Approves It's not, though. It's a cover of one of the tracks. Those tracks are pretty similar too, so it could be a cover of "All That the Light Touches," "Kings of the Past," or "Remember," and only if they use the track titles from the complete soundtrack.
Gia Williams FOUND IT: ruclips.net/video/rLIOLGTfbjI/видео.html
Great video. 👌
I was so excited when this came up in my notifications... then I clicked on it and it said it was taken down for copyright infringement. The Lion King of all movies, since it's based a lot on hamlet and stories from the bible. That's transformative, but a great video essay isn't? Whatever, good to see it finally up. Top notch as always my friends, save your father from the belly of the whale!
Papillon Effect ﾚaa
And it's a copy of Kimba the white lion created by the same guy behind Astro boy.
My problem here is Simba suffers trauma. Imagine your dad was the protector of the only home you've ever known and he dies trying to save you and you believe and are told by an authority figure that this is your fault. You feel guilty. You feel sadness and pain. You feel craven fear. What will your mother say? How will the community treat you now that it's vulnerable thanks to you? For a child, this is an incredible amount of shit to deal with, and that's before we add in murderous hyenas. No one ever addresses this trauma at all. No one helps Simba heal. Or Pumbaa and Timon for that matter. Pumbaa is an outcast from society, embarrassed and ridiculed and isolated for something he literally can't help, and Timon has been kicked out of his home for his clumsy attempts to improve his living conditions rather than cower in fear in a hole his whole life. These are all people dealing with self worth and abandonment issues, ostracized and alone. What they've done is create a safe space where they can mask the deep, consuming, pain no one is helping them with. This isn't about escaping responsibility. It's a defense mechanism needed because society doesn't care. Nala's love for Simba later in this is clearly contingent on how useful he is in solving her problem. Thus all three of these people have to ignore their problems and charge into battle, risking their lives. That's how the movie says you become a man: realize life sucks and provide anyway, no matter what.
Amazing channel man! I just ran into it and i'm glad i did. I love mythology and i've been getting into it recently through Jordan Peterson. Thanks for the great content!
You're so fucking talanted! Keep producing!
Thank you made me think a little
Great video, mate!
Although, maybe normalize your audio to being all the same output levels.
Fantastic.
Please make a video of the Little Mermaid 1989 too :) Would love to see your thoughts of that classic too :)
Awesome! ❤
Unfortunately there are many things that make me think this film is quite discriminatory. The main message of the film is that breaking the social order is doomed. So everyone’s got a meant place and I don’t live under that belief. Besides that, the film was shown in times of Bush...
Thank you for this video! So good.
nice
Great video and excellent use of a jordan peterson quote
I sense Jordan Peterson in you
Was this inspired by Jordan Petereson's work?
Sean Green he kind of just stole it from Petersons’s 2017 class Personality and its Transformations, but it’s cool.
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Hi
Citing Jordan Peterson really didn't age well...
Maybe you should look into what he actually says instead of believing sensationalized articles that have no actual proof to back up their claims. Is this about the alt-right? Well, the alt-right does not like Peterson, since he openly advocates against any kinds of identity politics - including those of the radical right. You just need to look into things yourself for once. Give me one article that doesn't quote him without the necessary context and still links him to something detestable. As of yet, I have not found a single one that holds up to scrutiny. Or listen to the man himself for a change instead of only reading about what he supposedly says and believes.
Sorry I triggered you, bro. This video was re-uploaded a day or two after Peterson made a comment about how Alek Minassian's van attack in Toronto wouldn't have happened it if he had a girlfriend and that "enforced monogamy" would be a solution to these types of attacks.
I n c e l s .
I admit that I was very angry when I typed this, but it's hard not to get pissed at misrepresentation, especially when it's done so consistently by the media in order to drag somebody's reputation through the mud. I apologize in advance for how long this is going to get, but I'll be doing a lot of quoting and I want to point a few things out. I'd like to know what you think after reading this.
I'm not entirely sure what you think "enforced monogamy" means and I get why the word "enforced" would have a certain ring to it if you're not familiar with the term. All Peterson really said here is that it's pretty likely that the guy would've been happier and would not have resorted to violence, had he been in a relationship. And that's basically all enforced monogamy really means.
I'll quote somebody else who explained it better than me:
' “enforced monogamy” does not mean government-enforced monogamy. “Enforced monogamy” means socially-promoted, culturally-inculcated monogamy, as opposed to genetic monogamy - evolutionarily-dictated monogamy, which does exist in some species (but does not exist in humans). This distinction has been present in anthropological and scientific literature for decades. '
When Peterson mentions this term, it's not him wanting to force marriage or monogamy on anybody, be it through the government or any other means (he'd actually be completely against the government having that much power, as he's also against the government dictating the speech of its citizens). Using this long and scientifically established term doesn't make him a "custodian of the patriarchy"; he's just pointing something out that we've had scientific evidence for for decades: monogamous pair bonding makes men less violent.
Here are two papers on this:
www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07418825.2016.1216153
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1111/0735-2751.00110
Here are some quotes from the former:
' “men who transition to a monogamous, or less competitive, mode of sexual behavior (fewer partners since last wave), reduce their risk for violence. The same results were not replicated for females. Further, results were not accounted for by marital status or other more readily accepted explanations of violence. Findings suggest that competition for sex be further examined as a potential cause of male violence.” '
And here some quotes from the latter:
“Evolutionary psychological theory of male criminality
In their comprehensive study of homicide form the evolutionary psychological perspective, Daly and Wilson (1988: 137-161) note that humans throughout their evolutionary history were effectively polygynous. In a polygynous breeding system, some males monopolize reproductive access to all females while other males are left out; in such a system, some males don't get to reproduce at all while almost all females do. This inequality of reproductive success (or fitness variance) between males and females makes males of species with polygynous breeding systems (such as humans) highly competitive in their effort not to be left out of the reproductive game. This intrasexual competition among men leads to a high level of violence among them, and the large number of homicides between men (compared to the number of homicides between women) is a direct result of this intrasexual competition and violence.”
And finally, here‘s an actual quote from Peterson on the matter:
“So, let’s summarize. Men get frustrated when they are not competitive in the sexual marketplace (note: the fact that they DO get frustrated does not mean that they SHOULD get frustrated. Pointing out the existence of something is not the same as justifying its existence). Frustrated men tend to become dangerous, particularly if they are young. The dangerousness of frustrated young men (even if that frustration stems from their own incompetence) has to be regulated socially. The manifold social conventions tilting most societies toward monogamy constitute such regulation.
That’s all.
No recommendation of police-state assignation of woman to man (or, for that matter, man to woman).
No arbitrary dealing out of damsels to incels.
Nothing scandalous (all innuendo and suggestive editing to the contrary).
Just the plain, bare, common-sense facts: socially-enforced monogamous conventions decrease male violence. In addition (and not trivially) they also help provide mothers with comparatively reliable male partners, and increase the probability that stable, father-intact homes will exist for children.”
Themaragorn People no longer have the time nor the brain capacity to read things in context or god forbid using a mental exercise where you look at a problem and coming up with a solution they know only works as a theory because humans don't need to listen to their baser instincts. I'm not a guy that takes his words as gospel I actually disagree with him on a number of issues but I am not going to be mentally challenged if I only watch late night hosts or people I agree with. Yes sometimes it just feels good to hear someone be on the same page as you and is even smarter than you. But people will now get offended by a different view point. And one thing I do agree with is that the left are making it sound like every straight white man has had an easy life for thousands of years when the truth is only a select few had a decent life and the rest either worked shitty jobs to death, starved or got sent to war or got killed if they refused. It's not about playing the victim but to create true equality you can't punish people for what their older long dead family members did. It's why I said in 2013 that if the left keeps up the PC raids eventually you will have a big generation of men not understanding what they should do, or don't even know how to improve things cause 1 mistake and you are put in the modern day equivalents of the public guillotine on twitter. Which people laughed at me for saying since "people don't take the internet that seriously" and look now, not talking about the Rosanne thing but people have been fired for comments, tweets and fb post. A right wing dad got her daughter fired for posting Trump articles on her facebook wall, it didn't go national but the local newspaper covered it and since then people have been afraid to post anything political online in our semi small town.
Turns out racists get fired when they say racist things on public platforms. It's the damn LEFTISTS faults!!!
Kan!
I consume a lot of content by jordan Peterson. I was suprised to hear him being refrenced here. Also Its interesting to see what you overlook in the themes of movies as a kid.
4:07
When reading the lyrics, saying, “Oh, I just can’t Wait ‘til dad dies”, is that like in some other kind of language, like UK English?
I don't remember those lines.
It’s a parody
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Hearing the songs in English is so weird...
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Suddenly out of nowhere there's a Jordan Peterson platitude. Ew.
Bilbo Baggins Agreed!
Marksmen16 are y’all “literally shaking” ? Lol pathetic
Did I hear Jordan Peterson? nice job
I was following along until you brought in Jordan "Well spoken but full of shit" Peterson for no real reason.
You lost me at Jordan Peterson
Why?
Then you’re immature
This movie's story was ripped off from kimba the lion look it up.
no.
@@alfredokusuma9511 ok
@@kapslock8008 'this movie story was ripped off from kimba the white lion' okay. maybe you should read kimba first correctly then comeback, here ..
@@alfredokusuma9511 It's also Shakespeare's Hamlet.
Simba isn’t a man though, he’s an animal. Great analysis, nevertheless.
This video, like much of J Peterson's statements, seems to assume too much regard for fictitious scenarios. Media is a good way of stating philosophy, but that doesn't make the underlying philosophy inherently correct just because it made it into a film. These kinds of over-emphasis upon fictitious case studies makes every statement therein seem less grounded in reality. Seems counterproductive to me.
Well, an interpretation is an interpretation. It isn't inherently correct. It's just one way of looking at and discussing a piece of work.