Jordan Peterson - Simba and Nala's Reunion
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- The Lion King has been well-received partly because it did a good job of distilling and retelling the eternal stories of human culture. In his 2017 course on Personality and its Transformations, Mister Peterson used characters from the film to illustrate Jungian archetypes.
I have done a thorough post-edit of his lecture and added animations from the movie itself to the best of my ability, as a means for better consumption.
Source: • 2017 Personality 07: C...
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"Like some basement dweller with cheeto dust all over his chest" DAAAAAMMMNNNNN
I don’t eat Cheetos.
lol
I think thats part of a Bill Burr joke?
Me: “The Lion King is a fun movie about lions and other animals.”
Jordan Peterson: “The Lion King is an archetypical story about why men need to grow the hell up and accept responsibility for their society, roughly speaking.”
Jordan Peterson, responding to that idea: “That’s an interesting thought”
Well... The Lion King IS a coming of age story for Simba.
😂 roughly speaking.,
Hamlet + Kimba: The White Lion = The Lion King
@@ObiTrev Yep. But only take the early arc of the exile/sale to a zoo of Kimba and the return to his pride/homeland, and ignore the rest of the Kimba series.
Wouldn't it be lovely if the film industry started providing the option on the DVD: "enable Jordan Peterson commentary" Just hilarious!
LMAO
This would be good or even better than most commentaries imo.
Fetch, that’s a brilliant idea
After enough movies with JPs commentary they should just send you a clinical psychology degree.
@@jarrodwidiger5472 indeed...
Me watching the lion king as a child: “wow that was a good film”
Me watching the lion king as an adult with Jordan Peterson annotations: “I’m a failure and I’m wasting my life”
Well how’s your life going now.. since hearing this lecture.. I hope your not wasting anymore time.. life is fleeting.. “ What gives you value?”..
So basically what you have to do is to abandon your own will and to be a slave to your biological instincts and do exactly what everybody else expects you to. Let your brain and body fill your mind with happy chemicals at the site of a hot young woman before your mind has matured and your hormones have begun to diminish and you can begin to think clearly. Then you are chained to the responsibility of raising a family, and paying the bankers every month for your death pledge (mortgage) and by the time you are middle-aged and the hormones have gone, gravity and the elements have taken its toll on your woman and you finally have the consciousness to go; wait a minute? Then at last your midlife crisis can finally kick in.
lmao I love how Jordan always stares intently at one of his students and makes them uncomfortable.
iWillWakeYouUp Dominance
Big lobster energy
Wish I could get stared at just for the opportunity to learn directly from him lmao
I bet they are fiddling with their phone... teachers hate that.
He doesn't speak to an audience, he speaks to individuals. Think again.
This would be the worst best man speech ever.
I lold
lollllllll
or the best worst man speech ever
Or the best...
This is the best comment ever 😂😂😂
teachers nowadays: "You're all special snowflakes"
Peterson: "You're useless and should feel that way"
And that youre not living up to your full potential, take on the world cuz you're stronger than you think
@@a.bagasm.7253 You're not stronger than you think but you can be stronger than you can ever imagine.
@@--------352 a distinction without a difference
I know which teacher I'd pick!
Where are these teachers nowadays you are talking about? Lol
I could listen to this man break down grass growing
“And once that grass realizes that only the truly malevolent can digest cellulose- he can transcend the suffering of the poor nutrient soil, manifest his inner monster, and become USEFUL, and that’s EXACTLY RIGHT”
Never take Jordan to the cinema with you
ALWAYS take Jordan to the cinema with you.
ALWAYS take Jordan to the cinema with you
Always take you to the Jordan with cinema
It depends, if you have seen the movie before and you are intrested in A Deep explenation about it then you can take him with you.
I want to take Jardan everywhere with me 🙏🏻
"women tend to like men who are useful." welp, that takes me out of the running.
:D
William Thompson what is the lesson in that statement? Maybe you can learn it before it’s too late for you.
William Thompson
Useful can mean many actions daredevil is blind ffs. Many men are orphans ...
Boy bye
Hold your head up high and don't rely on anyone else.
The Lion King is essentialy the story of a son who lost his father and without his guidance he run away from home and responsability to go around with his friends living life without a care. The reunion with Nala was important because through her, he discover love and through love he remember that life has its responsability. One of the great things about relationships is that they drive us to be better, to be more responsable, one of the reasons a boy want to become a man is to take care of his loved one. That is of course if we're talking about a healthy relationship. The relationship with the wrong person can of course ruin someone.
its furry hamlet
How many Nala's are walking around the Western world?
There is zero emphasis on self-improvement for women - they are the selection mechanism according to Peterson - all they have to do is show up.
@@JoBlakeLisbon not really. young girls are forced to mature faster because they're put in nurturing roles to younger children at fairly young ages, typically in preparation for motherhood (babysitting, being role models/caretakers for younger relatives, helping their mothers around the house, etc). boys can get away with goofing off more because they're not expected to be competent caretakers at young ages. they get a longer period to grow into it.
@@georgespiggott5615 Where are these mature young women you speak of? Have you walked out of your front door any time recently? Did you know that to 'force' a minor to babysit is actually a crime in virtually all Western countries.
Peterson's view of women is embarrassingly tradcon - he completely neglects the fact that women will throw down with a hot guy without caring at all if he's 'useful'. For all of his psycho babble he knows next to nothing about women - he married the girl across the street for God's sake. I'd bet he's slept with less than five women in his entire life. He literally has no clue what happens in the modern sexual marketplace and his view of women as an anima figure, devoid of their own need for improvement is so far out of touch with reality, it's unbelievable nobody has called him out.
@@JoBlakeLisbon clearly you and I spend time with very different women. and girls are made to baby sit all the time. that's not a crime, and if an 11 year old is told to babysit for a few hours she's not going to call the cops on her parents, even if she really doesn't want to do it.
i also think you're off base with your idea of a "sexual marketplace." if you view sex as a transaction, you're inevitably going to find fault with your partner because you'll be more worried about getting what you want/"paid for" instead of making the experience enjoyable for yourself and the other party. sex is something you do to have fun with an attractive person, or with someone you care about, or to have a child with a partner.
i definitely agree that it's wrong to view women as just anima characters, because everyone has their own inner journey and Peterson is ignoring that here. but he's coming from a male point of view, and not paying attention to the female point of view. we all make assumptions that the other sex has it easy but each have their own struggles and flaws. boiling it all down to who fucks who is a bit of an oversimplification.
"They have a romp, and Simba more or less pins her... And she licks him... And that's not good."
It makes no sense she’s flirting but the idiot falls for it
@Rick O'Shay Surely Thumper's episode with his lady-friend in Bambi would qualify? Or the spaghetti scene in Lady & the Tramp?
@Rick O'Shay "Merely hypnotizing"? Well, if giggling, puffing up her tail and fur, singing, sashaying up to him and snuffling his nose, fluttering her eyelashes, laying him down and flicking his ear is a form of hypnotism, maybe so. But I feel you may have missed some signals in the past.
LOL
Realize your potential
1. Realize your potential. 2. Adopt the necessary responsibility to actualize it. 3. Prolonging your adolescence will come to bite you in the end. 4. Stop running away from yourself. 5. Become competent and allow someone to steer you back on your path if you become lost. GREAT LESSONS HERE!
@Mary Antonio Its what growing up used to be like. What you said and what Peterson describes isn't incompatible at all. Trauma happens in life and there's a lot of way's to deal with eat. The final step is dealing with it, accepting it and growing up. The plot focuses on that, Simba's journey and his character growth which happens to have 3 phases: child, teen, adult. Have you seen Inside out? Its really similar in that way, with joy trying to avoid dealing with sadness and trauma, which is actually needed as a human being with a family and living in society in order to be supported and grow from it.
@Mary Antonio I think he doesn't recognize teen simba because it only appears in a flash of second during the hakuna matata song. What we see in the video he analizes is adult simba (he has a mane, a distinct characteristic of adult male lions). What JP describes as pathetic is what today would be a basement dueling manchild or a directionless thirty-year-old stoner. Someone who should have already made it past adolescence but isn't quite there in adulthood.
Nala appears now as a young adult female and then JP describes the guilt trip she makes on him. Rhe term "dopey friends" is unnecesary as they helped him through a rough experience. The thing is he needs to step up to the conflict that he has been avoiding and finish growing up, that is what the plot conveys (making it clear that his friends will follow him and support him which JP doesn't state).
In another video he also analyses the cloud scene (which happens immidiately afterwards). This is the event that causes him to be determined to return.
Regardless, in the end Simba goes back to the pride, confronts scar and battles him by himself, effectively fullfiling his destiny and realizing he is now an adult.
I agree he only analyses a side of the story, thats because he is giving a lecture in this topic in particular. Thats the purpose behind it.
@Mary Antonio Mary Antonio
I don't believe what you say to be incompatible with the abstraction at all. Please remember this is a lecture about Jungian archetypes.
1. "He is were he is because of his past and his friends" That doesn't mean he is incapable of growth or that his lack of motivation is justified, its understandable, thats for sure.
2. I mean regardless as in "whatever his final motivations may be". The context is meaningful to the plot, just not to the archetype.
@Mary Antonio Quite the read there. Oh well lets just agree to disagree. Maybe my own take on things (and having been an appaling creature in the past) doesn't let me see why excluding that is bad, but I get your point.
You could also compare the situation Simba was in to most 20-30 demographic living with their parents or extending adolescence due to the housing and job market being really bad, consumerism being pushed onto people daily and other stuff that are part of today's context.
The thing is once you realize the context is shit you no longer remain a mere victim of destiny (scar exiling simba) or the system. Once one becomes conscious there is a choice.
*video plays of Simba talking and smiling*
JP: Look at him, he’s all resentful and useless.
😹😹😹👏
I thought it was kind of weird the way he framed it… it’s more he’s excited to see her and only breaks off again when she starts talking about responsibility
this is just jordan peterson ripping on simba for 12 minutes straight
Jordan Peterson just made me think way harder about The Lion King than I thought I would....
"She licks him. That's not so good."
idk why i laughed as hard as i did
Nathan Hansberry 😂
😹
Probably over a million dollars of student debt sitting there in class while I am here watching for free... Nice
Hockett Josh it feels good!
Not to mention some of those kids probably don’t care what he’s saying but I’m sponging everything
winning
i know. i know
johnmann how do you even fare in life by making assumptions like that?
"The self is the thing that remains constant across transformations." Jordan never fails with words.
Damn, timon was ready to die for pumba.
e val79 a brothers love knows no bounds
mrigue56 I don’t know if Peterson noticed that one, I think it’s worth talking about.
@@annaliseaudrey963 You think letting your friend get murdered to save your "independent" safety is the stronger thing to do?
Amadeus lol the comments gone
For pumbas ass
It's amazing how Peterson effortlessly can extract the lessons out of these stories. I'm watching this on my phone like I'm in the classroom lol
@Rick O'Shay what does this have to do with feminism?
@Rick O'Shay I don't believe that's what he's saying here. The main idea is to grow up and accept responsibility for your life and your mission. When you do that, people will appear in your life to help you, and one in particular may be a long-term romantic partner. He was saying that generally, a guy who is just wandering along, directionless through life is generally unattractive to women...when he accepts his purpose/responsibility his life improves across the board, including intimate relationships. Nala doesn't represent feminism here, as she's working towards her community's survival, not complaining about the gender roles in the lion hierarchy. If anything, she represents traditional values by wanting a man to stand up and lead the pride.
Only on Jordan Peterson can make people talk about lion hierarchy’s in the comments
Its Superbad
Mary Antonio You really seem like a victim seeker... very emotional. The fact is that Simba WAS avoiding his responsibilities. He was taught by Pumbaa and Timon to do just that. If you keep on worrying on whether or not you’re wanted, you really have a long way to go, even if you do adopt responsibility, which is exactly what the story is trying to portray. But if you must, continue whining about it being “never enough, you asshole”.
Now you know why, 2D animation is the golden age of disney and these CGI remakes are so shallow.
In the last 5 years Disney has been pouring concrete over strong archetypal stories turning buzzing ecosystems into barren parking lots devoid of life.
the orig toy story trilogy was good. Problem rests with CEO Robert Iger, where shifting modern ideological norms became more important than the old m.o. of adding depth to classic tales.
The irony
Man, I feel my money for tuition would have actually been justified if I had Dr. Peterson as a professor.
I agree 100%
@@zviyeri9117 hes back
I love this series. I can't believe how much insight and perspective Ive gained on life from Jordan's ability to clearly express the tendencies of human nature, social and societal structure throughout The Lion King... I'm almost embarrassed by it.
CodeManJenkins
Really? This is pretty basic stuff. I'm a little embarrassed that this is a university course.
@@SamIAm-kz4hg The ability to explain things in a manner in which the subject can be interpreted/explained easily is a sign of true knowledge on the matter. I think this lecture was very well done.
@@cilantro_4839
"The ability to explain things in a manner in which the subject can be interpreted/explained easily is a sign of true knowledge on the matter."
No it's not! What are you smoking? That makes ZERO sense. I can interpret/explain this in a very different way just as easily as he does. It does not mean I have "knowledge on the matter". It means I have an OPINION on the matter. Nothing else. My original criticism of Peterson stands. There are other interpretations of the meaning behind the things he discusses that are just as valid. He does himself (and students) a disservice when he presents his interpretation as "the right one". And no one who interprets things like this with any kind of professionalism would make the mistake of presenting they way he does. Many kids aren't sophisticated enough to see this. It is typical "top down" teaching that is exactly what is wrong here. Art is open to interpretation. That's why it's art.
I am a teacher, and have been for over 30 years. I always ask my students what they think. And I invariably get a take on things that is something I've never thought of that is just as valid as my own views. This used to happen to me when I taught Romeo and Juliet many times.
The only thing he is teaching kids is that "there is a right answer and I have it. And if you have a different one you are wrong."
This is simply bad teaching at its finest.
@@SamIAm-kz4hg Calm down, Caillou. It's a saying, supposedly quoted by Einstein. But I'm lead to believe it actually derives from the Fench saying, "c'est qui se conçoit bien s'énonce clairement." And I don't mean do be rude, but how doesn't it make any sense to you? Have you recently had a medical examination? Your cognitive abilities appear to be lacking. If you can explain a subject simply and precisely, you obviously have knowledge on that subject. (How else would you be able to explain it?) I'm not saying he is correct, but he could be. Simply because he was able to make comprehensible points that could be backed to a degree. (Ex. He examined body language, facial expressions, music, etc.)
Obviously what he's saying here is an "opinion" (It's really an interpretation, but I digress.) However, when it comes to human psychology, and the study of our social framework, most of it really is based on interpretation. We interpret statistical data to our best degree, observe correlations, and use information from the past. A lot of these questions don't have true answers, they're really just "best guesses" when it comes down to it. If you are really mad that he didn't explore 10 more interpretations for each slide, okay I guess.
He also never said any of the thing's in the last portion, but okay. This is a JORDAN PETERSON analysis. If 5 students chimed in during every slide, this video would have been hours. I'm sure they had an open discussion or an assignment about the presentation afterwards, it would be silly to assume they just went home and never touched the topic again.
And I mean, nothing he said here was that crazy. I'm sure it's pretty universally agreed upon that TLK is a story about a young, spoiled lion, who goes through a traumatic experience, runs away from his responsibilities, realizes that he shouldn't do that, and then goes back fights the villan and wins. I'd doubt many people would fight that sentiment. Just because he didn't ask his class "You guys agree that Nala looks pretty hot here? Doesn't automatically mean he's a horrible teacher. What if he was looking at the facial expressions of his students and they were in agreement with him? I'm sure if one of them raised their hand and asked "Actually I think..." they'd have an open discussion. Just because you don't outwardly ask does not mean you are a totalitarian dictator against discourse.
@@cilantro_4839
Whoa! Relax. try not to get so triggered!
"but how doesn't it make any sense to you?"
The ability to explain something does not mean you have knowledge. I can explain to you how a bicycle works: "It has engines and wings". This has nothing to do with whether I have real knowledge on the subject.
I stopped reading after that. If logic isn't something you are familiar with then I'm not interested in speaking with you.
Simba thought he was responsible for his father's tragedy. It was guilt not uselessness that held him back. He didn't think he'd be welcomed back anyway. Plus Scar lied to him as a cub. After learning the truth he took pride rock back.
Christopher Pariona True, it was guilt, but he allowed his guilt to imprison him to make him useless. He surrounded himself with friends who told him not to deal with it, to literally not worry about it.
Same story as batman
Maybe it was guilt that he wasn't able to save his dad, which then made him afraid that he was useless to anyone. So the guilt about being useless made him stay away and not take risks and therefore indeed made him useless in the end.
You're talking about a cartoon lion.
Simba felt useless because of him feeling guilty
Ah the wise words of Kermit the Incarnate.
LOL you made my day!!
Damn you, now I can’t un-hear that every time he talks
True
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Man I miss Jordan B. Peterson so much, specially at these times when chaos takes over
" she's an anima figure in part because she's actually does shame him.
She's the gateway to higher consciousness, she makes him self conscious and rightly so.
She's also a psychological figure because imagine that when a young man is establish in relationship with a young woman and he's enamored with her (he's falling in love with her), he projects an ideal on to her and that ideal is going to be partially fulfill by the relationship. But he projects an ideal on to her because otherwise he wouldn't be attracted to her and then the ideal judges him and so that's makes him feel all self conscious and useless which is useful because he is useless and should feel that way. And so it's part of the impetus to growing up. You need necessity in order to mature you because to mature is to take on responsibility and you're not going to feel that impetus unless adopting that responsibility has some sort of pay off and that's exactly what's going to happen.
I think the economic and biological reason is women are in the position of having to take care of infants primarily and an infant is a very heavy load and so even if a woman whose extraordinarily competent is going to find herself substantially limited in her possibilities if she has an infant. And so then she's looking around for someone who'll pick up part of the load and you're not gonna pick up part of the load if you're completely useless.
And so it's in the woman's best interest
not to have 2 children, roughly speaking.
As a literal basement dweller this hits home for me. And I've probably got a few justifications for my "absolutely useless life" that I need to identify and discard.
Thanks for the good talk internet dad. I needed to hear that.
@butterflysisters step 1 is admit you have a problem right?
@butterflysisters I don't see that quote as about this god or that god. It's about power greater than ourselves. It basically means that you need to have something solid in your life that will act as first step you can always stand on. One would say religions are pretty much natural tools people go to because it is relatively low effort than for example designing your greater power on your own. However following organised faith will eventually lead to doubts and contradictions. That's why it is about higher power. Don't name it, just acknowledge it's existence, that you are being here for a reason, there is a path you follow that makes sense. Interesting is that it is all about our brains ;)
Well that is the way I see it.
Problem with basement dwellers reaches it's peak when spoken dwellers know exactly what's wrong with them and that doesn't change a thing ;)
@butterflysisters Well, nope. Please don't tell me you don't believe that people of other religions can win with alcoholism :) I am aware of 12steps and quite well aware of Christian religion. Been myself for probably around 20 years. At some point and enough questions one starts to think ;)
If however you find that there is only one true religion and only one salvation and all others are wrong then I'll simply thank you for conversation because there is no common ground for us.
Have a good life though ;)
Man. This hits home.
It’s been a year. How we doing?
So glad you are doing this series! You're editing is well paced, not distracting from the lecture which is perfect for this type of video. Haven't seen the Lion King in a long time so this helps me follow along better in the lecture!
6:12 Dammit Jordan, give a guy a warning please! My mom walked in
In the immortal words of Red Green: If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy
I am amazed how many lessons I learned form watching this series
He's able to take high concepts and break them down so eloquently without abusing "big" words
Amazing
This bloody film always makes me cry. And I'm 58 for godsakes! Always found it odd that I love the film because it has no Humans in it. Yet my favourite character is Rafiki.
So you're saying, you're a furry?
Deciduous Capybara this comment is way too underrated.
Deciduous Capybara I understood that reference
*"So you're saying we should kill all lions?"*
Deciduous Capybara well that depends on what you mean by “furry”.
Simba is definitely a furry, yes.
Simba: I love you!
Nala: I love you too! I just wish our dad was here to see us...
Simba: Yeah... WAIT!? O.U.R. dad?
Nala: Well, there were only 2 males in mom's pride and I'm definitely not Scar's kid...
Simba (V1): WTF!!
Simba (V2): Meh! Incest is wincest!
Cast your votes for the ending...
LOL!!!
V2
omg you just omg what why! trouble is...youre right!
V2
V1
11:00 "psychotherapy can be replaced with a supreme moral effort"
This brings more power to the scene where he pins Nala. They land on top of each other and a cymbal crashes, a drum gets hit, and the main chorus remerges; there is visible and auditory weight to it that helps emphasize it’s importance. So far Nala has been pinning a naive and childish Simba, but now he finally pins her. This shows his potential to become the strong, competent leader Nala seeings in him. In seeing who he could become Nala sees the guy that she cares about and gives him that face.
this guy is truly amazing, apt and timing are not expressive and strong enough words for me to get across the synchronicity of me watching this video now , today specifically today...wow!!!
6:13 bro you know its go time. All seriousness I was obsessed with the lion king when I was a child. So entranced with it from an extremely young age. It is still my favorite movie of all time. Even hearing just a snip it of "can you feel the love tonight" brings me back into to child hood. And there couldn't be a more inspiring animal to look up to in this sense than a lion.
A lecture based on my favorite movie? Best professor ever!
I think, Simba did nothing wrong during the story. Hakuna Matata stage surely did look like falling into naiveness but on the other side, he needed to grown up, and to get some life expierence. Then, Nala showed up and showed him what is he missing with his lifestyle. He rejects her, which is absolutely correct, because at first you have to keep your sovereignty. Then he goes and asks himself some questions. And the rest of the movie is pretty much the happy ending.
This is one of the greatest things I’ve ever seen. The Lion King meets JORDAN PETERSON!!!
5:05 You wanna know why she missed him.
She has been wandering the jungle alone for ages.
He is the first male lion she encounters since puberty.
At this point I dont think she cares anymore. ;-)
@Furfag McDeer yeah but who wants scar?
@@ebi_tempura Not Nala. Originally, the film was going to have Scar choose Nala as his queen. They animated the story boards for this and it can be found on RUclips. Nala rejects him publically and then Scar kicks her out, which is what prompts her to find Simba. They took that part out though because it was creepy.
Brilliant. This man is brilliant, dude! Deep insight. What a gift!
What it's like to be Jordan Peterson Jr, watching cartoons with Dad.
Nathan Lane, actor who plays Timon also played Snowbell in Stuart Little, which is from the same director of The Lion King, Rob Minkoff.
1:19 he was totally going to say "Why do I always have to save your ass"
I hope everyone who had the privilege of hearing this man's lectures in person appreciates how lucky they were.
"GO FOR THE JUGULAR! THE JUGULAR!" LMAOOOOO
I love when he hones into a student and speaks to them directly to the group. As a way to gauge if he is getting his message across, speaking brilliantly whilst simultaneously studying your response. He’s mad.
When you just wanna watch the movie but Jordan Peterson comes over
Absolutely fantastic portrait
I'm actually laughing at the fact that peterson sounds like Timon lmao
You know the man's a legend when he teaches you most profound things in life through cartoons.
Some of us are teachers, masters, and leaders...He is a teacher. His role is great in the phase it was played.
Thank you for the editing and delivery.
That guy leaving the room 9:10, man I'd just piss myself until this guy completes his lecture does he now know....
simba had wide eyes to make him cute and loveable
I hate to change the comment number from 420, but the music in that fight scene is dope.
Thank you for editing in the clips!
I can understand the part about the woman wanting a man who is useful. But the same applies the other way around: if the woman is not useful as well, if she does not provide a sense of gentleness and love within the relationship or family, but is the constant source of contrived drama, then it can hardly be considered a true communion between a man and a woman. The relationship between a man and a woman should not be a one-way street where the man is the only one providing and investing into it. The woman does provide the ability to give birth to children, but that is only one component to the whole thing. The question is what more can she provide to the man?
@butterflysisters In a normal situation, without a doubt. The only problem being that we are not living in normal times, and people are not behaving normally nor maturely. That sort of dynamic which you described is possible when the woman is not working a 40-hour-a-week job and has not been inculcated with values that tell her she has to achieve the same business success as a man.
@butterflysisters That is heartening to hear that you desire to be a mother. But finding women such as you is a rarity.
This is the moment when I realize I am Timone and all my friends grew up and got married and had kids I'm still here like "I remember when I used to have friends". I need a Pumba.
I don’t think there’s anything innately wrong with being impulsive and/or giving in to your desires. Pumbaa and Timon are clearly happy with the life they’ve chosen. Granted they’re single, but lot of what this guy says requires the preconceived notion that all women require a man to provide for them. If you can find a woman (or man) to spend your life with that values being young at heart you’ll have a very fulfilling life.
Yes they are happh but they are not useful to society, but whatever floats your boat if you find that fulfilling more power to you, just make sure thats the path you want to follow because if you find out it's not it might be too late for some people and they become resentful torwards everybody else. . . There is a place for people that have to live their lives impulsively due to circumstances. . . Mostly in third world countries, in america you have a lot of options to not follow that road if you choose not to
@@Garo10 yes its like being stuck in a child phase.
Being hedonistic will eventually become boring. Its kierkegard here essentially. Simba needs both hakuna matata and principle and order. A balance. If he goes over to one side or the other, it would consume him.
Now you made me want to watch lion king again
I bet Jordan Peterson was just a teenager bingeing on Disney movies who thought 'Crap. How am I ever gonna make a career out of this?'
I specifically loved the part where he talks about communicating with the higher self as it is a guide. I think that part alone is in this lecture is so eye opening
I left a message like 20 years ago, never heard back
One thing I just cannot understand!!?? Dude in yellow took a bathroom break in the middle of this, wtf?
Maybe he really needed to go?? Lol
You cant understand why someone goes to the bathroom?
The Nala bedroom eyes got to him...
maybe he was holding it the whole time and reached his limit😂
He's gotta rub one out, obviously.
Best reunion ever!! Its cute!! Nala is so cute!!!..and its a cute relationship Nala is right he is king and he needs to put the past behing him and face his future
xxx❤❤❤
Let's pretend this is genius, when really it's Psych 101.
Maybe but the genius part is how it's being taught.
I had teachers who did this sort of thing 20 years ago.
@@squamish4244 you'd be surprised how many teachers DON'T teach like this. The education system has only gotten worse anyway.
I wouldn't say that. There is a lot of stuff they can help kids with these days that they never could before.
@@squamish4244 mary mary miss contrary...wondered why nobody likes her.
simba just got "poor little meow meow'd" so hard 🤣
Strange how Jordan continually refers to Timon and Pumbaa as "dopey" when they took the responsibility upon themselves to adopt a child that wandered onto their doorstep, and raise him into young adulthood without anyone asking them to. Roughly 10-12 years of time and effort raising a lion (which they weren't designed to do, by the way) as a virtual gay couple and what thanks do they get as soon as a female walks into the room and starts seducing people?
Oh no...they're just his DOPEY friends that aren't worth a damn.
And then people wonder why dudes are walking away from relationships and marriage. Sheesh.
Scappo Offcourse calm down, bro. He's using them and the whole movie as analogy/metaphor. He has no vendetta against your beloved fictional friends.
this is actually such a good point...
In real life, Timon and Pumbaa are the roommates in the bachelor pad or fraternity who help Simba cover the bills, but only play video games/drink beers/get in trouble with him, until the girl he grew up with comes back to town from going to a different high school, and how she's hot and wants him and he wants her so he moves out and gets a better job and...
Well, you get the point.
Timon and Pumba were afraid of Simba at first. Their kind hearts have nothing to do with the fact of they being dopey ultimately. The entire Hakunna Matata thing pretty much is about just getting high in life, getting the connotation properly. They became the influence Simba needed to get of his back, had them being a protective figure or not in his life.
What an amazing class.. I wished my engineering class like this hahaha 🤣
I'm not going to say Mr. Peterson is wrong, but his analyzation is very one-sided. He doesn't really understand Simba's perspective at all. He's too busy judging him to really see things from his side. What's so brilliant about these scenes is they are not one-sided, each character is fully represented. It is a complex, dynamic interaction, in the same ways as "the real world".
It seems pretty typical that viewers identify with Nala and the pride but they do not identify with Simba. Why is that? Simba is the star of the film, why does everyone sit in judgement of Simba while thinking of themselves as sitting beside the other characters? This is a weird aspect of human behavior that I think deserves some study. Wouldn't it make more sense to identify with the lead character? Why is judging the lead character the most common analysis?
Love the ending song. nice soothing voice.
Your videos are excellent, and I would ask just one thing, please link the songs you are using because they sound so good.
Ben H. Song is part of the movie
This analysis is all well and good in a fair society that doesn't completely destroy men culturally, economically and psychologically...
"There is something seductive in her look despite the fact that she is a lioness" Wow... That's just... Wow
What
Lion King: An innocent Disney story about a naive Lion growing up without family
Jordan Peterson: I have a different theory
Nala is a dom, change my mind.
What's a dom?
Knees
Ah my bad
More like a switch...she liked that he pinned her finally haha
She’s strong, willing to show her strength, competitive but also receptive and ultimately when the opportunity presented nurturing, caring and quintessentially feminine.
A dom would be a woman whom rejects submissive behavior from herself and insists upon it in others
She's not a dom. She just doesn't want to have to wait to be the sub, so she gets it started.
I'm loving it! Really wanna watch the Lion King with my kids right now, but I'll probably end up pausing it every few minutes to explain Peterson's analysis..they'd be like, "what is wrong with you!".heha
You know we in trouble when you have to explain cartoons to college kids 😂
My fuckkn god thats soo deep.. thanks for that profond teaching man
11:22 what the hell is a 5th grader doing in his class?
He smart af
@@Garo10 😂 he's figured life out
I'm so glad I know this commentary as an adult and didn't hear this as a young child because this would have just been..something else...LOL Love Peterson! haha
Outro music please?
I want to see that video again,again and again
That's 12 minute video reflect something that can be applied in any thing (work,study,relationship, spirituality)for stepping into the next level . Again the ending was very important.
Again JP is great because nobody can describe such things in such funny and simple way.
That needs no telling that jordan peterson knew what he was talking about as " if you can describe something In the simplest way then you have known it perfectly".
so..... Simba had a "Come to Jesus" moment?
Jean Gentry - Roughly speaking, yes.
NO. It's all IN HIM."He lives in you".
11:03 - 11:58 "Jung said that psychotherapy could be replaced by a supreme moral effort." (guided by the Self)
that's exactly what happened to me
So good so dense and deep 🙏
Astoundingly well articuleted as well ☀️
So you're saying the female lion is an anima figure?
Outro song is the ending of the live version of /c/o/t/d by Coaltar of the Deepers
Youre awesome thank you
This is the OG toxic archetype for the OG toxic relationship. It's disheartening to see its poisonous barb in the hearts of smart, helpful people like Jordan Peterson (fortunately for him, he's hypercompetent, so it wasn't enough to stop him).
If Nala is stronger than Simba (at least at this moment in the story), she can just take Scar out herself - it came down to a 1v1 anyway. If she still has to up her skills and attitude, she still has less progress to make than Simba, which means an earlier end to Scar's reign.
Better yet, don't let it devolve to a duel, and just use several lions and lionesses to take him out when he's separated from the hyenas. I'm sure it would be a lot easier to get Simba onboard for that, and with little or no shaming or seduction needed.
"Let's hide between infants [real or potential] and shame men into doing the hard work we could do ourselves" is the motto of weak women who have even less business reproducing than I do.
You picked an awesome lesson. I mean, I don't really know how well that would work in a lion pride, what with needing a man and everything, but It certainly works in our society.
Original Ganster toxic archetype?
@@GenoSkill As in the oldest and first one (that I know, off the top of my head), yes.
My thoughts exactly - why the emphasis on Simba's responsibility> Ok - he wants more, he realises this and it's a good thing but the disgust with which Peterson treats him is actually shocking given he's apparently a psychotherapist. Simba watched his own father die as he was being rescued and Scar convinced him that it was all his fault - this is treason and major trauma. Peterson doesn't even consider this in his analysis.
In the end Peterson is just another TradCon and I suspect a very average academic - his record of publishing is actually quite poor. he certainly has some useful lessons but he's essentially one of the few academics who bothered with social media and he has reaped the rewards for doing so. He is very well suited to the medium.
Nala forced him into an uncomfortable self reflection process so that he could become the best possible version of himself. We should all be so lucky.
But let’s face it what the hell is everyone else doing about it ?? Why’s he the only one who has to change things ?
It’s a story all about him really his psychology and it’s just like batman begins
Yep Jordan missed that analogy. How do we all get real ? The route to real masculinity eg iron John
I just want his commentary on all my Disney movies.
Simba =John Lennon
Nala=yoko
Timon & Pumba McCartney & Ringo
Then who's Harrison?
Alex The Only no George..? Haha
Harrison is Rafiki. The truly illuminated
Nala's way too strong and good to be Yoko Ono
Accept that Nala was a good force in Simba's life.
My man spoke about a 60sec lion king clip and go ham lecturing. Fuck it sign me up
-daddy?
-yes Jaime?
-why the Lion is our symbol?
-well...em...because of nobility and...pride and honor and...
-but I watched Lion King, where Simba and his sister Nala are...
-yes Jaime, you got the point. Good night.
(10 years later, Jaime to Cersei, during some pelvic exercises): For so long I thought Lion is about trust between family members, but guess what sister, I just realized it's about incest.
Jaime's ancestors were VERY incestuous before his generation.