Jordan Peterson - Simba's Carefree Adolescence
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- The Lion King has been well-received partly because it did a good job of distilling and retelling the eternal stories of human culture. In his 2017 course on Personality and its Transformations, Mister Peterson used characters from the film to illustrate Jungian archetypes.
I have done a thorough post-edit of his lecture and added animations from the movie itself to the best of my ability, as a means for better consumption.
Source: • 2017 Personality 07: C...
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I'm not sure the writers even knew how deep this is
Lol
Thats the Point of his book maps of meaning, you should read it
some of them knew some part of it. But yeah, none of them knew all, this was made by various hands.
He makes that point referring to Ayn Rand and the writers of Frozen. A truly good story that follows the archetypal structure correctly can’t be predicted by the writer other than the general story and the writer learns along with the hero. With Frozen and other stories that buck archetypal structures the agenda of the author has to come first ruining creative possibilities and fitting stories to their own pre thoughts instead of letting the story flow naturally to where the archetypes of reality and human experience take it
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"Trust that some childlike exploration and a bit of manifestation of faith might get you to the next place". That really struck a chord! Wow
I would love to hear Jordan Peterson analysing the Land Before Time
that would be amazing man, in fact Im gonna look it up see if hes done it already
How can you possibly know this movie in that much detail, yet you can't remember that hakuna matata means "no worries" and that the lion kings name is Mufasa?! 😂
because it's not important to the philosophical side of the movie, would be my guess
@@carismo9502 Exactly, he knows the narrative structure more than the specifics of this version of it.
Hahaha exactly. Still a great analysis.
He knows them well, but is embarrassed
Perhaps using that as a "tool" to more deeply draw in the attention of the entire audience?
In the strictest sense, people DON"T own property in the US--they just rent it from the government via property tax. If you have to pay yearly property tax or have the property taken from you, then you don't truly own it to begin with.
Yes in USA people do not think in terms of many generations. When an ordinary Smith build a house it is of cartoon and even a low class cathegory tornado will crush it. Govt do not make invests more than 100 years ahead. Because they do not have stabil ethnic structure. Leader thinks if I build smth many 100 years ahead a foreign culture will come and destroy it why to even bother
Dude thanks for these uploads, its a rare occasion when someone learns so much about life in general and at the same time hit right in the feels!!
Honesty and trust are the two main components we had in Sweden before the massimmigration from the thirld world. Now we have nothing of that left and the country is falling apart.
“Yeah, hakuna-matata, right, which basically means ‘do whatever you want and tomorrow will take care of itself’ or something”
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I really enjoy listening to Peterson, but I love the philosophy of "hakuna matata" even more :D
One of the things that strikes me is how harsh mr Peterson is on simba in these clips, he really seems to hate the bourgeois and spoilt simba and I believe he deserves more positive regard.
Simba doesn't deserve any positive regard until he goes back to his pride. Running away from his problems and leaving his pride in the hands of scar does not deserve any positive regard.
@@chrisguzek1096 I would argue he deserves positive regard for being a sentient being with feelings.
Adolescence? I think that Mr. Peterson didn't pay enough attention to Timon and Pumba's philosophy: "Hakuna Matata, what a wonderful phrase!" with an emphasis on "Hakuna Matata - ain't no passing craze!"
As I remember, Timon and Pumba solved problems on their own, but they did it in their own relaxed manner instead of marry women! be responsible! bla bla bla tiranny, death etc.
"How pathetic can you get, he's sated, he's got this pathetic self-satisfied, naive, clueless, unconscious grin on his face."
I understand that within the context of the story, where Simba has an antagonist to face, but oh, wow... Full troll mode enabled against a cartoon character.
thank you!
Colombia has a lot of natural resources... :(
cocaína
@@gerardsta3397 respect bro
How lucky are those guys there seeing and listening to this man everyday. Or dare I say... privileged? They have a Jordan Peterson live-seeing privilege.
they pay 8000 dollars a year for it
@@hongers9 that's not much, my liberal University UH Manoa never taught lesson like i have learned just from watching Jordan Peterson on RUclips, and i had to pay ~ 20k per year and still paying off the loans.
6:00 That is quite an interesting thought. In communism a lot of equality was forced upon the people including women's rights to work and lead and in that sense the communist Eastern Europe & Soviet Union was far ahead of the West where women were still traditionally oppressed. I would also say that women were quite revered and cared for in nazi Germany where motherhood was seen as highly important in the preservation and expansion of the race (Germans never pressed their women into menial labor jobs for the lack of men that served at the front line like Americans did - just think of Rosie the Riveter). So I don't think it's necessarily true that dictatorships oppress women first or more or that would be the hallmark of dictatorships. Free expression of ideas and expressing disagreement without fear of repercussions seems a much better quantity to measure.
Several years ago I read a journal from a German girl reflecting on education and how it had affected her female friends. This was during Hitler’s rise. She had been sent away outside the country for education, and many of her friends went to public German school. When she came back, she recalled that several of her friends were pregnant and said that they were having babies for Hitler. There’s a point of valuing motherhood where it goes too far.
People in my country need to listen to this and understand it. Of course they won't, they won't believe it and it won't interest them. I've known for a long time about the corruption that the mistreatment of women unravels and the curse of having a lot of natural resources. Better said, I've intuit it for a long time, but had no back up or proper language for it. I did not know about the Dutch disease. I thank this video for preventing me for becoming insane out of cognitive dissonance: seeing things happening around me that are obvious while having everyone deny them.
4:18 how to protect yourself from ideological posession
18 people didnt understand what he was talking about.
When Jordan Peterson says that meerkats are "cool things", does he mean cool as in what Pong was back in the day or cool as in lobster cool?
Hakuna Matata means "no worries" which is like a second line of the song(lol), it's a Swahili phrase from Africa. It doesn't mean "do what you want and not care". You can have responsibility and not worry too, remember that in the end of the cartoon Timon and Pumba came to aid Simba and even risk their lives just to help their friend. JP doesn't do them justice at all and his interpretation of this part falls flat in my opinion. Maybe if instead of considering himself an all-knowing master of the universe and writing books titled "RULES FOR LIFE" he would research into worry and conflict-less philosophies like Zen and Taoism he wouldn't end up a clinically depressed drug addict with a frown nailed to his face raising an army of disciples who will arguably end up in the same boat. Sorry for being harsh, i'm just feeling bad for Timon and Pumba i guess.
Damn. You feel so bad for the verbal lashing that fictional characters have to go through, to the extent that you are willing to accuse a man of raising future-drug addicts who will become depressed. Go fuck yourself, man.
5:00 if only feminists could see this part of the video
6:36 me, a dutch person watching this
....Hey!
Somehow this video made me think of my old idea that, money should have an expiry date. When I now thought of it in very very simple way... its like if in an ancient culture ... or why not animals. A "rich" individual gets all the food he needs.. or can get.. well any amount you can imagine. There is only a limited time he/she can use it. After awhile you just have to go get fresh food. The same could be implemented in money. You have to spend it if you wish to gain all the value of it.. and when he/she spends it, the money will circulate and everyone will profit.
How's a poor person ever going to save up enough currency to make a substantial purchase if it keeps expiring out from under them?
Wouldn't that cause hyperinflation because assets, land and real objects, would be worth so much more than currency because they don't expire?
Can't you get around this by passing down businesses and land and other valuable objects, which probably accounts for most sizable estates anyway?
Rich people will always find ways to avoid such things while poor people usually have no recourse because they can't afford a lawyer and accountant. I agree with trying to have an incentive to invest but it would be better to add financial education at the high school level.
Yeah.. I agree the idea might be full of flaws.
Money does "expire" in value. Inflation.
to me, this doesn't seem to solve any problems.
there are not many people, that just save their money like dagobert duck, in order to decrease the moneyflow and hence the wealth of all people.
What people do with their savings is investing it, usually buying stocks and so giving companies the possibility to make use of it and produce goods.
So the money is flowing anyway.
+Fandrie Koh: True. But the impact of that is usually on the poor, who try to save money, non on the rich, who _create_ fake money to exploit the poor. They _create_ inflation and they _benefit_ from it.
Jordan, you know the character names and species, stop lying
song at the end?
5:16 - and the NYT says Dr. Peterson is a misogynist....
That's an interesting idea, but I'd counter with human nature and the "biological clock" argument. Some women actually want to have babies. Religion and politics aside, there is a biological imperative that we reproduce, and most don't completely ignore that. As Dr. Peterson points out, even in extremely equality-driven economies, like Sweden, you still see a remarkable disparity of career choice between men and women. Sure, you see a population deceleration, and possibly periodic contraction, but I don't see that alone leading to societal collapse. Nuclear family dissolution seems to be a far greater factor in that.
In order to answer that, I'd need to better understand what you mean by "the West is dying off." What do you mean by "the West?" That could mean a lot of things. Are you referring to the geographic regions of Western Europe and North America? Do you mean the ideology of "the West", the economic philosophy, culture? The answer to that could also answer my next question: what do you mean by "dying off?" Do you mean the way of life is changing, or the populations are actually decreasing (more old people dying than new babies born to replace them)?
Back to your original question, I don't see the necessary correlation between negative birthrates and "societal collapse." I would frame societal collapse as the breakdown in societal function and morality, which we are seeing, but I don't see how declining birthrates exclusively causes that. However decreased birthrates coupled with an invasive, in-congruent & non-conforming ideology that out-reproduces it can absolutely lead to cultural changes, which could be seen by the original population as societal collapse.
You have no idea the depths of truth that are in that statement of Western collapse.
Why can't we have more good movies like this? no instead we get trash like Frozen, Tangled, Coco and god knows what other garbage that comes out of Pixar and Disney Animation these days. The last great movie was probably WALL-E and to an extent Up but that was almost 10 years ago! WTF Disney, another Frozen?
Wtf are you talking about... Coco is goddamn amazing.
My lifestory is so similar to lionking its uncanny.
so a man want to be happy? is that so wrong? can a man NOT have worries? is it so wrong?
hey, can somebody tell me the name of the end credits song please.
no
What's the outro song?
I thought Scar couldn’t establish a reasonable relationship with the lionesses because he’s gay.
Simpba?
7:50 what ? haha i think he just looks happy XD
I'd call this a bliss of ignorance.
Hmm saoudi Arabia has a good economical growth though women.
Thanks for posting this video. I love Jordan Peterson but this portrayal of this situation, i specifically disagree.
Yes to women's rights. Women need to have more power and control.
mrzack888 I hope that is a joke!
In the US they do have more
More than who? And why should they?
Over themselves not other people or men
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Listen to these malcontent bitches... They've got half the money & all the pussy, & they still ain't happy! Shhheeesh. 😏
Who the fuck dislikes this?
Whoooo I'm the 420'th like XD
Peterson hating on simba being happy proves he's a miserable person.