Hasbro "Never Wanted Power Rangers"
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The Power Rangers project at Netflix is cancelled and now the depths of Hasbro's disdain for this franchise are becoming clear.
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I still don't understand why corporations buy things they don't want.
EDIT: As explained in the video, it was because Goldner saw the toy sales of the 2017 movie and decided for some reason to buy the franchise, without really thinking about what that entailed.
I swear, megacorp CEOs really are just disconnected from reality.
Tax Write Offs
To prevent their competitors from buying it and profitting off it?
In this case it was a deluded CEO going rogue.
Entertainment One and PR were both Goldner disasters Hasbro tried to salvage.
Also, a strong case for why you don't let fans wholly manage properties.
The video uploader literally explained in the video that the old CEO Goldner wanted it so he pushed to buy it. You guys really need to start watching an entire video before posting comments like this..
So a rich guy buys something without thinking of the consequences (cough x cough)
It’s unbelievable how mismanaged PR was and initially, we thought it’d be a step up from the Disney Era.
Guess for once in their post-Renaissance life, Disney handled an IP they didn’t create better than the other owner. Talk about a rare sentence when it comes to Disney in the last twenty years. They did alright with PR better than Hasbro did and there’s plenty of reasons to criticise the way Disney managed the brand.
Let's not forget the brief period when Saban got the rights back. Megaforce was a massive waste of everyone's time and effort, especially for an anniversary series.
And what's sad is that, even if they didn't want it (or eOne, for that matter, but that's beyond this video), Hasbro COULD have salvaged it. We could have gotten articulated Megazords that didn't suck (instead we got ones that did), and Lightning collection could have been a great substitute for those who couldn't find/afford the Figurarts of various teams, and fill in the gaps where Bandai failed, which again, did not happen. But they didn't.
And it's not like they really could if they wanted to either at this stage. Given how badly they treat every other line they own -- Star Wars is constantly being given lazy releases and awful Haslabs, ML has copious mold reuse, MLP had a reboot of mixed to negative response, Indiana Jones and G.I. Joe are frequently given the shaft and Transformers has QC issues out the wazoo coupled with fans getting more and more pissed off about Legacy's treatment of certain characters (and that's before them frequently overlooking Play-Doh, Mr. Potato Head, PJ Masks, Peppa Pig, the board games, Furby; or Jem not getting a new line of toys despite getting a comic in recent years) -- It's probably for the best they just farm toy manufacture to Playmates going forward (even though outside of TMNT, Playmates themselves are getting worse).
One of the biggest benefits of PR being owned by Disney is that, after the first few years, they didn't really care what the Staff did with it, as long as it stayed within the proposed budget. I say this because after seeing what's happened with Saban Round 2 and Hasbro (or Netflix, more accurately), corporate meddling always seems to be the biggest issue PR has to face.
Mismanaged my foot. This brand has been nothing but a trojan horse money pit scam since 95.
Even TJ admitted it falls apart whenever money or effort is put into it because it can't return the investment.
It's mis managed bc it doesn't earn money. Their figures are dog water - Dino Fury showed promise but that was it.
I may be a huge Transformers fan, but lately I feel sympathy for the fans of Power Rangers, along with RWBY fans cause of what's happening to their favorite franchises lately
RWBY still has fans?
@@UncannyEXP yes, actually
I'm one of those fans since the battle between Blake vs Mikasa
RWBY has always been trash though
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271
Never seen the actual show, just seen Chibi, Arrowfell, and fight scenes
It says a lot about the series when the best part is the manga anthology (which was completely written by RWBY fans).
It’s a depressing time to be a PR fan. Here’s to hoping that Hasbro can get their shit together and give it the Beast Wars treatment it so desperately needs.
Beast wars Toys are pretty half assed
2017 did that and bombed hard.
Make a Prequel Should with a Young Zordon, & Young Rita as a Mini-Series.
@wolfman210 because it was a Power Rangers movie with a few minutes of power rangers and a dozen or so minutes of zord stuff.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 How so? They were pretty revolutionary for Hasbro at the time. Also when I say Beast Wars treatment, I’m talking about the brand in general, not just the toys.
It kind of hurts to see a beloved franchise get treated like crap but that’s show business and life goes on
No, that's reckless expenditure, and it's a sign that whoever made the purchasing decisions shouldn't be in charge of purchasing decisions.
Good thing we have super Sentai
@@galaxycamerata Yep, megacorps are so disconnected from reality at higher levels. It's so fascinating how rich/wealthy people can be so bad at making value judgements, until one realizes that 90% of the time they just got handed that amount of money through privilege.
It hurts because Power Rangers was finally getting respect as a geek property. 20 years ago it didn't have nearly the respect of things like TMNT or Transformers.
@@theotakux5959 and it probably will never have respect as a franchise lol
This is why I have been wondering where the Power Rangers and transformers crossover was. Those are the two biggest toy franchises that I know of.
Honestly? That one has probably more to do with the comic rights being owned by different companies than Hasbro's apathy towards PR.
I don't think we'll see a potential crossover between the two unless by some chance Skybound gets the rights but who know if that'll happen.
@@tomhur1 There was a PR/Justice League crossover and a Turtles one when IDW had the rights to both it and Transformers.
Rights weren't the issue.
@@tomhur1 either that or boom Studios gets the rights to Transformers, but like with boom Studios, giving up Power Rangers comics, I doubt that Skybound will give up Transformers. I just want volcanicus done as the original Megazord, whether there’s a comic tied to it or not.
@@wolfman210 Yeah but still, negotiations between TWO different companies can be...tricky.
@@tomhur1 If IDW and BOOM could get Paramount to agree to do a Turtles crossover the only reason a Transformers one didn't happen is Hasbro nixed it.
The QC issues could probably be chalked up to moving production to Malaysia. True, you don't see a Classified Duke with Roadblock's legs, but there was one wave--the Lt. Falcon/Cover Girl one--that everyone noticed a sharp decline in quality. S.H. Figuarts too; Bandai had to reissue the "Boy from the Future" Trunks because the original run (produced in Malaysia) would fall apart in your hands.
And I honestly think one of the biggest problems Power Rangers as a whole has is the specter of Mighty Morphin. Yes, the die-hards want Dino Thunder, Ninja Storm, and Time Force, but the larger percentage of the public only acknowledges the OG team. That's all that sells, so that's all Hasbro cared about (their "last hurrah" of LC Remastered being--gasp!--ANOTHER set of MMPR figures was not a coincidence).
And yeah, that same "only the first ones matter" mindset is why G1 is king in Transformers land. AND G.I. Joe.
We didn't even get the thunder zords in ZAP... Instead Galaxy was the last release. They showed off the tiger thunder zord but we're never getting it
Star Wars as well. There's a reason Disney keeps stretching the OT timeline with things like Mando,Ahsoka and Andor.
@@wolfman210 It is VERY telling that six years out, we haven't received a Rey with her yellow saber, or new versions of Poe and Finn. Meanwhile Hasbro is out here making every background rando Mando with even a second of screentime.
Transfomrers has to adventags in this case, one each new era is very different and can set itself apart more than one season of Power Rangers to the next. Also they tend to keep things going for about 3 years so it can gain a loyal generation of fans, Power rangers changes so quickly that it's harder to hold onto an audience.
@@wolfman210 the ot timeline was stretched in the Old expand universe as with galactic civil war not coming to an end until three years before the invasion by the Vong.
Reminds me of how the muppets franchise was treated by disney
"Was" it still is
I think the idea of people internally sabotaging Power Rangers is just insane. People are risking their jobs to... spite a company they work for? I don't see ground level workers like those in factories caring one way or another, and people in charge? Maybe they'll try less, but actively sabotaging the brand? The evidence is very circumstantial at best.
All that said... yeah, the idea that Hasbro didn't want Power Rangers checks out in terms of how they've handled the brand as a whole. They've clearly not known what to do with it, and the attempt at a more mature reboot akin to the 2017 movie makes sense given they likely didn't want to *just* appeal to kids anymore. Hasbro struggles a lot with making their stuff more wide-appealing, and Power Rangers is basically that on hard mode. I'm on board for something new, because, I agree, Power Rangers has been doing the same thing for decades and as a result, everything's just disposable. I want the brand to succeed, but I don't know if it will ever do anything but tread water ever again.
It’s so petty. Imagine being mad at sentai. One of the most innocent forms of kids entertainment of a cast of cool teens in colorful uniforms and doing karate.
they wanted MMPR but not the entire franchise
Nah they didn't want it period. But atleast MMPR sells so they tried to salvage something from it.
I think that going animated would be a great way to revive this brand.
Power Rangers being a cartoon series would work.
That runs into the same problem Hasbro has been having with PR since the beginning.
Why do that when Transformers does the same thing but better?
@@wolfman210Because Transformers has always been animated outside of Bayverse. PR has never been animated, giving them a chance to take a new spin on it
@@tyestancil2783 Again, why put effort and money into a risk when you have something that already does what an animated PR would do and is already very successful?
People asked why Hasbro bought PR in the first place because they already had Transformers that shares the same target demographic and is successful and the justification PR fans gave was that PR is live action so it gives Hasbro something new.
This supposedly was also the reason Hasbro didn't do articulated Megazords. If people wanted that they'd just buy a Transformer making it redundant.
I'm an older fan (41), and even as a kid, I never liked cartoons. Still don't. I would probably skip an animated series. The real, practical effects and monsters are what keep me hooked, even as an old head.
I’m curious. If Hasbro wants to get Power Rangers back on track, why don’t they and Takara do some negotiations with Bandai for the rights for Sentai footage? Takara’s already on good terms with Bandai because of that whole Dream Together thing (is that still a thing?), so why not have them back Hasbro up?
Also, if they could score the likeness rights for the GoBots as they originally were through those negotiations, that’d be greeeeat.
Takara has nothing to do with Super Sentai. Super Sentai is a Toei IP. Bandai has a licensing agreement from Toei to do the Sentai/Kamen Rider toyline.
Seems like it would make more sense to team up with Shout! Factory (who has been licensing many of the Sentai and Kamen Rider shows in the West) and go in a partnership with them. Get permission from Toei/Bandai to do Rider/Sentai toylines in the west. Shout! releases Rider/Sentai shows and then has then air on Discovery Family (a Hasbro/Discovery joint venture).
Not to mention Super Sentai and Kamen Rider is Bandai's biggest and best toyline for childrens. Bandai and Takara Tomy is only on a "limited" good terms. Bandai letting Takara Tomy produce Super Sentai Toys for the west is the equivalent of KFC handing over their Fried Chicken Recipe to McDonald's. And as said already, the Super Sentai brand is co-owned by Toei. We all know how Stingy Toei is with their IP.
The current CEO is pretty terrible. There have been many questionable decisions under his reign.
Just like how Hasbro "never wanted" Indiana Jones?
OOF...
A company known for brand crushing anything that even slightly threatens their transformers line
I'd Rather Import Super Sentai on a Streaming Site, & Sell Toys under that name.
That's how it was before Hasbro bought Power Rangers. It's just that Bandai produce the toys, and someone just distribute them to the west.
Last time I checked the 2017 movie toys as well as Super Ninja Steel toys shelf warmed like crazy and didn't sell well. I'm also not entirely sure if the PR formula is bad and doesn't work anymore. Given that reports say the shows did do well on Netflix.
One thing I feel that isn't often mentioned when it comes to some of the more recent Power Rangers series is that Super Sentai has also had some problems and a lot of the shows they've been pumping out would probably not work for Power Rangers series.
TouQger - Trains are a hell of a lot more popular in Japan than in the west. Trying to make a train themed ranger team likely wouldn't work.
Kyuranger - Had a far too bloated cast of rangers, hence why Hasbro pretty much only used the zord footage from it.
Lupinranger Vs. Patoranger - Hasbro has stated their reasons why already.
Kiramager - This might actually work, though the toys would likely have a lot of issues due to translucent plastic.
Zenkaiger - They'd basically have to redo every shot of the gears due to the numbers, not to mention all the sentai only teams and the megazords emerging from what look like the old toy boxes.
Donbrothers - The heavy use of CGI for two characters along with theming it around the legend of Momotaro would likely make an adaptation a major issue.
King-Ohger - Like Kiramager, might have a chance, but the costumes and the insect theming might be a bit iffy.
Boonboomger - IMO, this season has the worst suits in the series and I'm kinda iffy on the zord designs.
Power Rangers is a cancer Super Sentai can do without.
This is something I've mentioned a few times in past Power Ranger videos, it's why Bandai America invested in the development of Kyuranger, because so many Sentais used themes and styles that wouldn't work for in the US, so they wanted to direct things to make sure that didn't happen. Then they lose the license before they got to adapt Kyuranger.
From Zenkaiger onwards Sentai really became unadaptable for PR.
Donbrothers for example just like Shinkenger has a setting too deep in japanese culture that simply doesn't work in a western setting. And the characters' private lives are more highlighted than the action scenes.
I can’t lie, I did grow up on Disney era power rangers. It was a cool time up until my father gaslit me midway into mystic force which eventually lead me to sentai. It feels like I’m on a boat that was similar to a boat I used to ride on but currently that copy boat is just erupting into flames. Honestly I more wish people who owned pr would just treat it in a way that had sentai as a base. Like yeah PR has it’s big perfect moments but because it never broke out of what everyone thought it was, I feel like that was one of the silent factors that helped do it in. I’m sure PR will continue, at this point it’s more just how the rest of it does anything to warrant the love it used to have
I think Hasbro actually got a bargain by purchasing the entire Power Rangers franchise. They just horribly mismanaged it in every way possible. Goldner had the right idea and knew what he was doing. Cocks has no idea what he's doing.
It always did feel like Hasbro treated Power Rangers like a redheaded stepchild. Honestly though Power Rangers had been on life support for a long time and it made it 30 years and survived many close cancellations calls before. So well I'm not all that upset that it's going away for a while because there is a chance it will come back they just have to think of a new way to apporch the franchise.
Make a good story, and the merch will sell itself; every bandai property sees this (See: Gundam Seed Freedom just for one example THIS YEAR), but that's never quite how Hasbro's handled that where the toy lines sales and the TV story quality tend to be dis-staffed from one-another to varying degrees.
I keep disagreeing when TJ says the brand was on life support from Wild force, as that's partially true and partially not since it was intended to be cancelled there and yet kept going because merch sales and ratings were 'good enough' to not see cancellation under Disney in any immediate sense. the inflection point I more consider Overdrive/Jungle fury as that's where Disney stopped letting the IP just run its course and intended it to be concluded; whereas before it was at the very least self-sustaining. But reduced budgeting certainly doomed Overdrive as they didn't have the funds to properly adapt Boukenger's thematic adventure arc, and with Bandai America starting to make PR-original molds for everything instead of just importing the japanese versions (at an increase to cost at that due to the R&D they now had to do themselves), they toy sales were never going to improve again as they were just inferior to what could be imported. I don't consider Overdrive the series that damned the franchise as others do, but it is certainly where everything started to go wrong, with Jungle Fury from my view being the real one to drive the nail in the coffin with how genuinely bad It did when it could've been the one to help it recover from a stumble. Which RPM itself did, only too little too late as attention had truly fallen off by that point so many people missed out on it; and the saban revival just leading the franchise to double down on its errors year over year with no intelligent attempts to correct the mistakes.
Which is where we get to What was NOT discussed here; something I don't think Hasbro or even bandai america after Saban brought the show back ever really considered; that due to the 2010 production hiatus a LOT of people who previously cared about Power Rangers found out and began watching Super sentai if they hadn't before to fill that vacated niche; thus from that point onward Power Rangers production was ALSO in competition with the Japanese-originating product PR was based on in ways it HAD NOT BEEN Before...or at least to the same degree. Every year we ended up getting inferior versions of the toys that japan had, so that same collectors market that hasbro would usually bank on for sales whales never would materialize (and NOT helped at all by the MMPR nostalgia pandering Saban/bandai america and Hasbro never escaped); buyers would go and grab the japanese toys, which by that point would usually be on discount to costs with shipping acting equivalent in expense to the 'new US-original' version that would end up inferior. The ONE time Bandai america then tried to bring over the japanese product again (i.e. making available the DX Shinken-oh for a short time) the attempt floundered because their release was marked up for the trouble as a limited item...when we could still import the japanese version at clearance prices; so of course that wasn't going to work.
And that likewise not helped that we finally got the sentai set imports. Shout Factory's quality control may be bad and only gotten worse to the point the most recent Abaranger and Dekaranger sets translation is complete garbage worse than any previous fansub for those series; but with PR dead this year and those imported series now on Tubi there's been people discovering those now for the first time and drawing those active compare contrasts to the more recent content, and thus finding such modern productions even more wanting as one sees the lack in quality on the PR side wasn't necessarily found in the budget, but in the writing. If the PR staff wanted to, they could have done more straight, less expensive direct adaptations; they just needed to do right by the source material in doing so...and Modern PR never seemed to want to ever do that. Every time they were lobbed a softball like that, they struck out.
The sole exception to that until VERY Recently was the lightning collection, as those kinds of legacy figures were NOT something that Bandai japan was doing, and even Japanese fans of Sentai were importing the figures TO Japan for their favorite teams. Hasbro had several opportunities to bank on that correctly...and Hasbro Squandered that due to the spiteful QC conduct. But the second Bandai's shokugan division started producing the Super shodo sentai figures at 4", and boxed the sets as full TEAMS, not individually and with loads of accessories? Well even with the cost of those, The writing was on the wall. So couple that with just truly plain awful writing that would not make it so what merch was made for the current-run series would actually SELL, with the people who cared repeatedly showcasing where the franchise was going wrong through proxy of the sentai series which either didn't make the same mistakes or screwed up in wholly different but preventable ways which were not learned from...well it was clear that there was no adult in the room of the production staffs directing attention as what they were adapting was treated as a joke. The same year the disasters of Cosmic Fury and 'Once and always' happened, we also had King-ohger available as a starkest contrast of what the PR Staff kept CLAIMING they wanted to do with the franchise only to repeatedly screw it up...and toei's staff were actually putting into practice themselves. And to be fair, there haven't been many GOOD Super Sentai series the last decade...but even when they adapted a good one they'd still turn it into a terrible story while they were acting as if they made the superior version. That's pride and arrogance showcasing they didn't know where the franchise's strengths were, and not make something that TJ called wrote and formulaic engaging to fans new and old. I didn't hate what the series became because of a perpetuation of the formula, I stopped watching because I kept hating the characters put INTO the formula, the repeated spitting on the Graves (in the case of the whole zedd clone debacle of Dino/Cosmic fury, that being quite literal as the sin that will NEVER be forgiven) of what had come before, and the refusal to stop resetting the way they handled it back to how it was in 1993 when the franchise from 1994 to 2009 DID evolve beyond that first season in how it handled its story and characters...that we just didn't see anymore in the 2011 revival where disrespect to those same matters was far more common.
PR's target audience has never cared about Sentai. It's pure delusion to think Sentai stole PR fans. The truth is PR just couldn't keep up with domestic brands like Marvel and Transformers.
For hell sake, HOW G.I JOE AND GOSHTBUSTER ARE MORE A PRIORITY THAN POWER RANGERS ???!
Because they both make Hasbro money which PR failed to do.
@@wolfman210 Maybe if they mades toys this will make money. Cosmic Fury must be the lowest toyline ever
Yet UK gets no Ghost Busters anything by Hasbro after the 2016 movie for years yet gets PR stuff still and other company ghostbuster hits uk still.
I never cared for Ghostbusters.
I used to be into G.I. Joe now I don't as much anymore, not after what happened to the live action movies.
And this is why for years I told people you will never see a PR haslab. Hasbro hated this franchise, and it was always last on their list of priorities.
There was a Power Bow and Axe Haslab leaked, but didn't materialize.
Those of us that are also wrestling saw sane happen when WWF/WWE bought WCW and barely did anything with it besides of burying most WCW wrestlers for sake of Vince's ego.
it also feel like a form of abandonment in retaliation of the EXTREMELLY japanese theme of zenkaiser-kinghoger
it was clear that hasbro board of directors has no idea what a toy is (or a roleplay manual, or a trading card game, honestly), but this, this has been TONKA level of mismanagement, but on a semi-planetwide scale.
go-busters give the chance to do full on combiner prototyping, which gives surefire way to have thing tested without the pushback, and they do 2 non-combining, barelly articulated figures. the second morpher was degraded to baby's-first-nerf-gun
and I'm ready to bet my right testicles that during the "what to do with the show next" there was talking of fully CGI megazords
hasbro has been shooting themselves in the foot since combiner wars, and at this point is cutting into their baseline, why are they still going?
Considering how heavily the 2017 movie toys shelfwarmed in my areas, I find it hard to believe that they could have sold so well. The movie itself being so poorly recieved by audiences also makes me incredibly skeptical. Surely, one would have helped the other at least a little bit?
2017 wasn't poorly received. Not every audience. From my perspective, you have fans who still thought it was "successful" when the reality was, despite favorable reception from fans/audiences, it just didn't do well on the financial box office front.
Hence why, fans are still holding on to a "sequel" to 2017. It won't happen.
1. The cast are too old now to pass off as believable TWA.
2. The cast have made it big elsewhere in other films/shows
3. Saban is not around anymore to take control of the franchise like he did 30 years ago.
4. Hasbro owns PR now
5. Lionsgate no longer makes DVDs of recent shows since after Ninja Steel. Nor do they have the right to make another PR movie even with Hasbro.
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Majority of audiences didn't respond well to 2017. If they did, the movie wouldn't have ended its run grossing less than MORBIUS lol
It's just crazy because Hasbro could have just got a partnership with Bandai Japan and just got the molds for those megazords. They didn't even need to make changes. It's just weird. The news that Hasbro didn't want Power Rangers has been out for years since Goldner passed away. I even said this under the other video two weeks ago.
You have to wonder what Brian Goldner was doing at the end there with these purchases.
He was trying to turn Hasbro into a multi media company like Disney.
PR was also supposedly bought to give Hasbro an in house superhero ip to be less reliant on the Marvel license.
The best thing Hasbro did for Power Rangers was let Boom do it's thing with the comics but now...I don't know if the comics are going to last after they finish Darkest Hour. Right now I hope Robert Kirkman comes to save Power Ragers but I admit that would be a pipe dream.
At this point just sell the series to Toei
Why would Toei want to buy Power Rangers? Its like Wendy's buying the burgers back from the customers. XD
@@bryanmerel because it’s their property technically Saban and every other company that owned PR just Leeched off of their success
@jaydenjohnson4221 what i mean is, THEY DON'T NEED TO. The Power Ranger Brand is simply a license to localize super sentai, but nothing is stopping any company from buying the rights to broadcast the supersentai brand and be dubed on their local language. Case in point, the South Korean Super Sentai Dub.
Does Toei even care about the "powerful rangers" to begin with
@@0047sssss doesn't affect them one bit. Globalisation have shown them Fans will eat Super Sentai as a fun sub, even without them lifting a Finger. The Power Ranger IP needs the Tokasatsu more, not the other way arround.
I'm not a power rangers fan yes I liked it as a kid
However it really does annoy me to see these companies get the rights to IPS they don't care about
15:52 just to clarify, this is not a PR exclusive problem. Beyblade Burst released by Hasbro also suffered this. Even Transformers of the recent years has this amount of QC problems. Rise of The Beast Studio Series Voyager Class Optimus Prime feels like an unfinished design. Bumblebee movie Studio Series Voyager Class Megatron has a laughable excuse for transformation. This is not a case of Power Ranger sabotage, this is a Wide Spread Hasbro QC problem.
Ah, yes, the classic trend of every Hasbro property except for Transformers and GIJOE getting the short end of the stick.
Power Rangers can now, unfortunately, join Beyblade, Nerf, and Star Wars fans in the Hasbro Neglect corner.
Hasbro probably does too much with Nerf and Star Wars, especially compared to their other properties. They didn't even make any Jem toys for that terrible movie! What was the point of making a movie based on a toyline if you're not selling the toys in question?!
I hope Lego or takara buy Hasbro some day
is that even a good idea
On what planet is Hasbro neglecting Star Wars? lol
They ain't neglecting Star Wars, even thought they probably should given how badly that line's being treated and the fans constantly wanting better but not getting it.
Also you say G.I. Joe isn't getting the short end of the stick? Hasbro really wants to forget the line even exists half the time, and puts out figures because the fans refuse to let them forget. Hell even Transformers is getting short-shafted to the point where Lego's doing a better job than either Hasbro or Tomy, and Lego's stuff is even more collectible than the actual mass retail figures that are trying to be collectible. Add to that, the line's been having QC issues since Earthrise and they've never sorted that out to this day (one wonders how much of that is COVID-related, versus being out of spite like it was with PR).
Hasbro is a joke. What a disgraceful way to treat Power Rangers. I hope Saban or even Disney gets the rights back.
I’m afraid the two wouldn’t do any good. We know how it went when the former got the franchise back, and the latter would cancel the show, no matter how good a series turns out to be, plus it’s not been looking good for Disney lately.
As dumb as it sounds, the best thing they could do for Power Rangers that makes the most sense (and I’m surprised they haven’t done it already)
Is to put them in Fortnite.
Either give them the mighty morphin suits or an original look like they did for TMNT.
Give them a small collab to generate hype, heck if they really wanted to go crazy they could put them in the battle pass and theme the whole season around Power Rangers
TJ's term for PR been on life support give me image.
That when Megaforce /Super Megaforce was airing; PR was having close heart attacks due how witters of the season boiled it's anniversary season thin, not real meat on story and show makers burning Sentai material as if they were burning evidence from they screw ups.
But yeah, bit shame how PR has been treated this couple years though I have understood that while on show and toy side were bit of train wreck, PR had highlight time on comic pages.
Shit, maybe sell it back to Bandai at this point
Bandai America already burned their bridge with bandai Japan. It'll just be more garbage
Not even joking, I think PR would do really well if Disney was interested again
They'd just try to turn it into a lesbian brand and make it lame
They have Marvel and Star Wars, why on earth would they want PR again?
@@wolfman210 well it's Disney. Purchasing franchises and expanding their brands is very much like them. Even if they ruin those franchises. But also yes you're right, Disney already struggles managing Marvel and Star Wars and therefore wouldn't benefit from PR since it'd be completely neglected.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Are you idiot or crazy because that doesn't make any sense.
Well this is kinda depressing. I remember being so hyped when Hasbro bought Power Rangers because it was another franchise I liked becoming a part of the Hasbro family. I even went so far as to put Power Rangers in my personal Hasbro Shared Universe fanfic I'm building...
And now hearing that the company never wanted it makes me feel...awkward about doing it. I don't wanna just back out now since I've already laid the groundwork for it in my fanfic and I have a lot of cool and fun ideas for it, but it still feels weird doing it now...
I'm in the exact same boat, but I'm going forward with it because I just really like what I came up with.
I say keep going. Don't let's going on stop you.
Bruh power rangers getting treated almost as bad as valve treat's teamfortress2
At least PR isn't infested with bots everywhere.
Have you seen their acting?
This just blows. As a power rangers fan i hope it gets better
Hopefully this gets more Ranger fans into Super Sentai and eventually Kamen Rider.
reminds me on how power rangers was treated by disney after a while.
You know, this raises the exact same question that happened during the Disney era:
If Hasbro never wanted Power Rangers, why the Hell did they buy it?!
We did go over that in the video, the previous CEO liked it based on the toy sales in 2017, but the new CEO saw it as a waste.
@@TJOmega Oh sorry, I must have missed that. Anyway to me, that makes no sense.
If the previous CEO liked it based on toy sales, why is Hasbro just now saying that they never wanted it in the first place?
@@aualga Disney didn't buy it, they got it as part of a package deal with Fox Family's assets and Sally Campbell convinced them to keep it going as a way to get into the boys' toy market.
As for Hasbro: Goldner bought it without consulting Hasbro first.
Hasbro itself always had misgivings about both the Power Rangers and Entrainment One purchase.
But Goldner sold it to them by saying they could grow the franchise to rival the MCU and use it as leverage against Disney over the Marvel license.
In other words Goldner was deluded.
@@aualga Again, explained in the video. The previous CEO bought the franchise without running it by Research and Development, who would have to handle the franchise. THEY didn't want it, the sudden workload would be huge.
Disney didn’t buy Power Rangers. They bought the company that owned Power Rangers. It was mostly just to get the family channel and the rights to air MLB on ABC IIRC. Getting PR was just a byproduct of the transaction hence the neglect.
Really? The movie toys sold well?! I thought everyone hated those designs…
The Power Rangers franchise being dead is like saying super sentai is ending because there ruining out of ideas for a themed season. I really hope playmates does a better job with power rangers then Hasbro.😥🙁🙁
Never said it was dead, just that it's current owner doesn't want to invest in it.
@@TJOmega Okay I got you, but it's still sad that power rangers fan though Hasbro was going to fix the franchise better then Bandai America and Saban.
Playmates will probably treat PR as badly as Hasbro or worse. Especially if you got employees who are TMNT fans and you put some of them on it.
Plus Playmates has TMNT. A proven brand with a legacy of shows, films, video games, comics and merch. There’s also their recent fumbling of their third go at Star Trek...
@@rayvenkman2087 I just realized what you said is so true.🤔😞
@@rayvenkman2087 So basically same situation as Hasbro.
I hope we get the new season of power ranger's super sentai
Its a shame that one my favorite childhood series has been done so dirty 😔
Thank for the video. Sadly Hasbro has a bad habit of buying thing it does not completely understand or buy it for a reason that makes little sense. Avalon Hill is one of the older examples Hasbro bought Avalon Hill for their computer game division which had never produced a successful computer game. They were primarily a roleplaying and board game company.
I thought the movie toys failed .......
Hasbro really need to sort out their priorities and stop giving us Power Rangers fans more of their job, because this is ridiculous.
What I don't understand is how Power Rangers fan struggles to put two and two together, that the reason Hasbro is Struggling with Power Rangers is because the Super Sentai IP is OWNED by Bandai. Buying Power Rangers only grants them the right to localize and distribute the SUPER SENTAI SHOW, not any of the molds of the toys, atleast not without buying it for a Hefty price. What further put this in conflict is that Hasbro is partnered with Takara Tomy, Bandai's biggest Rival Company in Japan. Meaning, unlike with the Transformers, wich is honestly a subsidiary of Diaclone, Hasbro would have conflict asking Takara to design Power Rangers toys for them less Takara breach some Copy Rights of Bandai, atleast, not for cheap. Meaning Hasbro has to, either design the toys on their own, or pay Bandai a premium just to print a mold of the toys. Making the production of any of the Power Ranger toys MORE EXPENSIVE than it needs.
Bandai of America actually found out a long time ago it was cheaper to make their own versions of the toys rather than license the Bandai of Japan molds, they had been doing so since Operation Overdrive, so cost of redeveloping the toys was never an issue.
@TJOmega it will be an issue if you don't have the same "Bandai Engineers". Also, that doesn't make any financial sense. Why would you redesign your own company's product from the ground up if the moulds are already there? Especially for the Zords, all they had to do was redesign stickers and Electronics in English, change the packaging from Japanese Super Sentai to Americanized PR, and boom, profit.
@@bryanmerel Not boom, profit. The Japanese versions of the toys are usually more complex in engineering and sometimes larger than what was Bandai of America released in the US once they adopted this strategy, larger parts means more material, more involved engineering means more cost to assemble. You're also not accounting for licensing the molds, which is avoided by remaking the toys. The example is from Samurai, the last time the Japanese toy was brought over the US. That was done as an exclusive to Toys R Us because it cost $60 to sell, compared to the US version of the toy that only cost $30. At the end of the day, it's a franchise that needs kids to be able to afford the popular toys, which doesn't happen if they're asking $60 for the Japanese version of the mold.
@TJOmega the factor that the transaction of it being Bandai to Bandai is still there. It is also steps less to compress and simplify an already existing toymold wich i asume all the things Bandai of America has to do. Unlike with Hasbro who HAVE TO BUY the designs from Bandai of Japan before they can even do any tweaks, worst if they don't want to buy the toy assets that means they'll have to design the Zords from the ground up, wich Takara would have some complications assisting them with considering Bandai and Takara are rival branda in Japan.
@TJOmega my point is, it's dumb for Hasbro to buy the PR ip to begin with. What they practically did was buy the rights to broadcast Bandai and Toei's toy advertisements FOR THEM. Pretty much the equivalent of Disney, trying to buy the streaming rights for a Batman show. Sure they can broadcast it, but they can never smoothly produce product for it without massive amounts of redandunt legal expences and headache.
If they were just gonna do this to the brand... Then when would they even buy it in the first place?! At this point just go back to Sentai adaptions and at this point just go back to reusing the japanese molds of the Sentai toys. Give the rights back to Bandai.
The CEO behind the buying of PR is not the same CEO running the company now. The previous guy had a plan for the franchise, but then he died, and his successor did not have the same level of interest in it.
The idea I heard for the Netflix show/movie sounded terrible anyway, so... maybe a silver lining there.
"Like how Bruce Wayne is Batman"? Like how Peter Parker is Spider-Man, or Steve Rogers is Captain America, or Thor Odinson is Thor? Hasbro's partner needs that memo.
Steve Rogers and Peter Parker are still Captain America and Spider-Man there's just another person using the mantle too currently and Jane Foster hasn't been Thor for years.
@@wolfman210 and 2 people using the same name is also confusing, especially in the same continuity , so yeah, they still need that memo.
@@NerdRahtio It's also nothing new at Marvel.
We've had two Captain Americas * Bucky Barnes and John Walker * and Spider-Men * Ben Reily and Miguel O'Hara * before.
Miles Morales is just as much Spider-Man as Peter Parker. Stay mad. Cry harder.
@@Cdr2002 Then i guess Terry McGinnis, Jean-Paul Valley, Dick Greyson and Luke Fox are all Batman too. It is NOT good for the brand having 17,000 characters with the same name.
I wouldn't give up completely. Power Ranger have been cancel before, and it always find some kind of way to come back in the public. So it possible the same could happen in the future.
As the song goes, No One Can Ever Take Them Down (the Power Is On Their Si~i~i~ide).
I wouldn’t absolve Cox, the new CEO, from weirdness or terrible decisions either. Hasbro has a dysfunctional culture at the top and serious disconnect from its consumers.
Collectors are neither Hasbro's only consumers nor their most important.
Well, at least they're honest.
Fans need to unite and tweet till they NEED TO DO IT. That's the only way. I am an international fan by the way
PR being the #1 action figure brand in 2017 blows my mind. I remember seeing alot of movie toys on clearance and toysrus couldn't sell those Lion Fire MegaZord sets after slashing the price to hell.
I remember Ebay would send me notifications about them every day
I bought the smaller Hasbro Megazord and got the BD15 upgrade stickers for it. It's a fun shelf piece, not expecting it to be a high grade collectors item.
1007 DAILY STREAK?! Damn dude! Congrats on keeping up.
Saban will buy it back next year again for the third time
WELL THEN WHY DID YOU ASK FOR IT
There's a very big and probably easy fix for the toy problem.
Just import the toys from Japan.
Power rangers is having a hard time because the world that made PR successful in the beginning does not exist anymore. Children's television pretty much only exists on 3 cable channels and streaming services. The afterschool and Saturday morning programming blocks that helped so many of us discover shows we woukdnt have normally watched are GONE replaced with informercials and Judge Judy Reruns.
And even if a kid has cable, cartoon network and nickelodeon frequently bury anything that isnt SpongeBob or Teen Titans Go in the 5 am sunday morning death slot.
Even in the 90s PR was struggling dude. Beetleborgs was outperforming Zeo and Turbo. Heck Zeo ditched the Zyu suits because MMPR itself fell off hard after season two.
So, neither the largest American media company * Disney * or the largest American toy company * Hasbro * could make PR work now.
And the fandom still delusionally insists all PR needs to be big again is "someone who cares" and even more money sunk in it.
The Disney era worked quite well, they just decided they didn't want it, and Hasbro stopped caring about PR before Cosmic Fury even came out, Hasbro's PR run was doomed the second the CEO changed.
@@LiMe251 Yeah, It worked so well Disney decided it would be better to just outright buy both Marvel and Star Wars then continue investing in it.
And WHY do you think they gave up on Cosmic Fury? Because as Cocks has said the franchise wasn't performing up to par given Hasbro's investment in it.
Like I said before, this fandom is deluded and thinks that if companies just continue sinking money into this property that it will magically become profitable and successful despite it burning four companies now that tried it.
Power Rangers is a Lost Cause, & We Migrate to Sentai.
I remember trying to get a job at Hasbro years ago, before they got Power Rangers a couple years after. Looking at the news now, it made me wish I could've done better (don't know how, but yeah), and maybe gotten into their Power Rangers division. But then again, after getting to the part about one guy getting laid off for demanding they make sure they got the right paint...I guess I would've been let go like that person. So yeah, Power Rangers had always been special to me, it's a shame to see them being this unwanted all this time.
If only PR continued adapting the current Sentai seasons... I think it would be great.... For example not adapting lupinranger vs patranger, kingohger etc... 😢😢😢😢
if only haim saban told disney that power rangers weren't for sale when they bought saban entertainment back in the day
Pretty sure the story goes Disney bought Fox Kids block, in doing so also purchased Saban’s company, which in turn was power rangers. They never intended to buy power rangers at all.
20:46 "The same old thing over & over." Okay to be fair the same exact thing can be said about The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. How many times are they going to rehash the same 4 characters for over 30 years?
It was better with Bandai despite the zord toys breaking in America versions.
Man Hasbro just closing off Power Rangers is just sad that's not getting lot of love and dedication it needs, I feel the power rangers fans pain it just sucks
Can toei buy the power rangers franchise from hasbro already toei is better handling power rangers ip rather than hasbro
2:53 The original post was from Jinsakuu himself. He posted it on twitter. I think what they mean by the reboot being based on the 2017 movie they mean it would have a similar style and tone to that film. Probably done a lot better though.
Sad News! My 11yr old dipped into PR for a while, he loved PR Dino Fury and tried hard to get most of the toys, but Transformers is his first love and has been since aged 3.
Kind of sad to see it go, but it really has been a long time coming and it has already shifted many hands since the Saban days. Although for both Power Rangers and Super Sentai that its market has reached its limit everywhere and likely needs to go on a long hiatus. Probably what would be best is for there to be nothing new at all for at least 5-10 years and start over under a different company that can bring it back from the ground up.
I disagree that the reason the 2017 movie toys sold well was because they were different. They sold well because say it with me........ MARKETING. The 2017 movie was promoted to hell and back. You literally said it in the beginning of the video. The live action series is a commercial for the toys. If there's no toys what exactly is the show promoting!?!? If there's no marketing for the live action what exactly are kids going to want to bug their parents to buy?!?!? You even brought up how hard it would be to find specific megazords but others was abundant. If I'm some 8 year old and I'm looking for the cheetah Zord and can't find it in person I'm going to be one sad kid and may even lose interest in the show. Hasbro did everything so backwards. Why would you make the 4 auxillary zords abundant and then create a scarcity of the main body megazord and then wonder why nothing is selling?!?!? Power Rangers main issue since Disney bought was has been MARKETING. We know this because when Was Saban got PR back in 2011 Samurai did really well. Why?!? Because Saban did a phenomenal job marketing the show, teaming up with Boom studios, making their presence known at Comic Con, etc. We was getting Power Ranger reveals at one of the largest nerd conventions in the world for Samurai and Megaforce....... Surprisingly both sold well for Saban.
I said this under another video, as a long time Power Ranger/Super Sentai fan. The problem that's always been an issue for this brand is the mishandling of the series. It's reason why the show has been hanging on by a thread since wild force. Saban original run had the formula down to a T. Disney forgot that Power Rangers tv show is a commercial for the toys so they neglected the toy side and we saw this with how bad the toys was after SPM and Saban fully left the brand. Bandai America just didn't care and we saw some of the worst megazords/figures in the entire series (until we got that cosmic fury brick megazord) overdrive megazords was so bad compared to it's Sentai counterpart that I remember back on forums how people was asking for a refund and going to get the Boukenger Megazord. I specifically remember the red dump truck being awful. Disney then wondered "why can't we turn a profit" BECAUSE Y'ALL FORGOT ABOUT THE TOYS.
Then Saban got the series back and Power Rangers Samurai was a smash hit for them. Remember we got the Red Ranger float back in the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade something that didn't happen in 10 years. They was riding a high and then sold the tv rights to Nickelodeon and then Nickelodeon proceeded to kill all momentum the series gained by having some of the worst TV air dates ever. But again this is the network that airs SpongeBob 24/7 a day.
Then Saban/Nickelodeon sold the entire brand to Hasbro and Hasbro proceeded to kill the brand slowly. They did the exact opposite of Disney. They forgot that the TV show is a commercial for the toys. So while they was creating all these lightning figures and ZAP projects they was neglecting the show. Then Goldner passed away and they really started to show their ass by not even selling toys of the show they had produced. Like wtf. How would kids know what's the new toy if what they see isn't in the show.
What makes it worst Hasbro had Netflix remove all the old Power Rangers from the streaming service so what kid is going to know who the heck is the Blue wild force ranger when the current show blue ranger animal motif is a gorilla???? How can you make a show like Beast Morphers and even make the second season hyping up the Beast X King Megazord and then DON'T RELEASE THE HYPED MEGAZORD TOY. Like come on this is marketing 101, this is stuff you learn if you take a marketing class in high school. You make a product, you promote the product, you sell the product. They was upset Cosmic Fury didn't perform well from what I heard.......... They didn't even produce action figures for this show. They made a freaking brick megazord and didn't do anything else. What do you expect.
TL;DR this issue isn't as complex as most people make it. The mistakes Hasbro made are as clear as day and idk why people keep trying to use the excuse that PR has been on life support or that the brand has always performed bad when neither Disney nor Hasbro even supported the brand right. They always did the opposite of what they should be doing
I swear to god if hasbro would just finally hire me i would be able to fix everything involved with power rangers. Easily make it profitable, if not the most profitable like in 2017.
Speaking of chopping up teams… the folks Hasbro lay offs are usually the designers and artists, so they can keep the suits. Ditching talent to purchase more IP for them to work out is self defeating.
Soon, hasbro can get rid of us pesky customers. Not much left for me. Especially knowing that hasbro doesn't care about any of its products.
there are a lot of similarities between hasbro's treatment of power rangers and the way they treated jurassic park and world, they just didn't care, glad power rangers at least the toys are getting worked on by different company soon, reminds me how happy i was when mattel got the rights for jurassic after the shit job hasbro did in 2015 - 2016.
I think they should adapt King-Ohger instead
Their outta luck 😢for now it seems . Especially if hasbro wants cheap and not wanting to spend $
I don't know why they didn't just do combiner wars style mega zords
I had no idea Power Rangers were doing so bad, I remember them milking it on Nick as a kid.
Tho I will say, Power Ranger fans are lucky they didn't get a Netflix original series, things could've went pretty bad
This whole franchise has been coasting on its cheapness to produce since 95.
After MMPR season 2 the franchise has steadily declined. Ditching the ZyuRanger suits in Zeo and the cast change midway through Turbo were both desperate attempts by Saban to keep it going in the 90s. Then In Space and Lost Galaxy had strong ratings thanks to the late 90s sci-fi boom Star Wars' revival caused so it barely avoided the reaper's axe.
The franchise is a trojan horse.
Hasbro and Netflix have the same ideologies, so they may have wanted that.
@@NerdRahtio I was mainly talking about how not caring Netflix original adaptations can be, be it bad dialogue or style over substance
@@SammySinner6 we would have gotten an approach like hideaki hanno went for the Shin films, just, completelly disregarding the original material
@@serPomiz the difference between a Netflix adaptation and a Shin film is that the Shin film would be actually good lol
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I feel like MrCooper's comment about the QC issues being intentional is VERY SUS, and I'm slamming that X to Doubt button so hard.
There might be some truth to what's being said, but I think some folks are too emotionally charged & trying to rationalize stuff in their heads that, and this has happened in my lifetime, folks just make things up & present as fact rather than opinion & will fight anyone on it.
I've also been burned by folks like Chris & Josh in the past so, I take what they say with a grain of salt anyway.
I do agree with TJ - I hope the franchise does get better before it gets worse.
After watching this and getting to the toy section, I'm now lookin at my Andros/Astronema pack and my Psycho Green Ranger for any errors.
Even the Alien Figures was odd like Eye Guy all his Eye Pupils was one colour just like the 90's bandai version. They was not like that on the show think they could a bit more eye pupil colour into a all white plastic figure that cost alot more than the bandai original figure cost.
Did the movie toys do good or was it dino charge that did extremely well? Remember there were toys cancled from the movie lineup
Once again the Power Rangers brand is shit on by people who don't want or care about it...
how hard is it to produce quality toys? like you said, 3 production lines. one that's aimed towards kids, one that is the 6 inch figures (do it how they do Marvel and GI Joe stuff), and one that involves the Megazords. Hasbro engineers can make the Bayformers work, yet they can't make Megazords work and have LOTS of articulation?
It’s even worse when you consider John Warden perfected SCRAMBLE POWER at general retail and yet he turned the mainline Megazords into LEGO wannabes. Most Megazords are simple enough to work with that system
They didn’t even try. The plastic quality was atrocious on all the Zords, skipped a lot of them, and barely distributed them
Oh. So to quote MST3K "THEY JUST DIDN'T CARE"
That’s not true the reason the reboot got pushed of for so long is because Power Rangers Cosmic Fury was also expensive to make
I hope power rangers gets a complete series dvd set. If they never wanted it then why buy it? Cosmic Fury did not even have ranger toys. Just the zords & morpher.
It's actually kind of sad seeing TJ's video of him being excited for what Hasbro could not long after them buying Power Rangers as a whole, only to come to now with how the franchise is being handled now.
And it's actually sad, they actually seemed to care back then too, with them going back and adapting Go-Busters to make Beast Morphers whilst starting the Lightning Collection which had some smarts to avoid doing teams as Waves and have them be an assortment of Rangers throughout the years since that way wouldn't sell, even with great pushes to show Power Rangers is more than the dinosaurs then ninjas, seven Ranger colours show they remember it for.
How you'd come back after halting the brand and having your frustrations with it become known, I have no idea other than apologising for underestimating how much you've jerked the fans around because you were only half-hearting it for most of the time, which is never going to happen, just them announcing some new show, movie, or continuation of toys at best, if at all.
I know there are still plenty of actors that still care as well, but losing Jason David Frank really felt like the last real soul of the Power Rangers franchise was lost.