Double Pretender Megatron was worth it for two things; 1: The idea of Frank Welker shouting "SUIT ON! _PRETENDER!_ " 2: Spacewarp's dialogue with him and her bio describing her in ways that sound like she's his wife.
Of Masters and Mayhem was just silly "we're losing the license anyway; might as well go out with a fanwanky bang" fun. Didn't hurt that we had great prose stories like "Life Finds a Way" (the one with the Raptoricons, LOVE those babes), the one that actually touches on the nuances of Bluestreak's character (the PTSD that he distracts himself from by chatting so much) and that tragic one that made Alpha Bravo and Off-Road into actual characters alongside really fun Combiner Wars retools/repaints (still the best Toxitron even after the Evolution one, Impactor and Fractyl are clever mold reuses, and there's something hysterical about G1 Optimus actually being made into both trukk and munky via a repaint of Oilmaster's shell).
I won't argue that CW Megatron was perfect, but I liked it because they went with mostly silver instead of flat gray. That alone gives it a bit of G1 toy vibe that most versions don't have.
I think it's perfect. I have it displayed in the foyer in a glass enclosure along with the CW seekers and a painted background. Megatron is posed with one hand on his hip, looking at Starscream with his coronation crown on (the crown came with CW Starscream) People smile and ask about it literally EVERY time they come in the door, and it's usually, "Oh my god where did you get that Megatron?"
The Legends tank guy cam out as Megatron before it was used for Warpath. It was an IDW Gladiator Megatron with hazard stripes. He came with a lttle Chopshop!
Blisteringly hot take: I want a redo of Titanium Megatron before we get a redo of Animated, G2, Cybertron, or even RID 2001 Megatron. It’s a horrible toy, yes, but I think the design deserves a second chance. I will laugh so hard if the current design team is able to turn the worst figure ever made into a best of the year contender.
RID01 Megatron is CHUG scale already anyway, genuinely slots right in size wise. Granted, not the easiest thing in the world to find, but relatively decent prices for a leader class on the aftermarket
CW Megatron wasn't perfect, but it was the first G1 styled megatron since the Classics Nerf gun one if I'm not mistaken, nowadays it got overshadowed a lot, but at the time it wasn't that bad. For me the list lacks one very important Megatron. The original G1 one. Yes is nostalgic, yes the microchange one was kinda cool, but it never was good as the leader of the decepticons or to be paired with the other transformer toys. He was flimsy, weird proportioned, very thin on parts, unfortunate placed trigger on his robot mode... Lots of thinks you complain about in other ones in the list, specially the MP one, apply to the G1. Maybe not include it in the list proper because first and such... but at least an honorable mention...
I have Combiner Wars Megatron with the DX-9 upgrade kit, and also gave him the blade from Siege Megatron. He is my main Megatron next to MP-10 Optimus.
I really like that weird little machine wars f22 megaplex/megatron thing, it doesn't fit the character it was sold as but still looks like a nice figure to mess around with if you just don't think of it as megs
I always thought that the best bet for a Transformers G.I.Joe crossover would be to focus on figures that already turn into military style vehicles, maybe Hound, Warpath, and the aerial bots for Autobots/Joe, the seekers, Combaticons, and Blitzwing for Decepticons/Cobra.
The cold reality is that bigger names sell better, overriding logical design sense. From a design standpoint, it was obvious the green military jeep (Vamp) should be matched with the green military jeep (Hound), and at least reasonable for the green dune buggy (Striker) to be the blue/grey dune buggy (Beachcomber). However, Bumblebee is one of the three biggest names in modern Transformers, so we instead got a normally yellow car Bumblebee shoehorned into becoming a green dune buggy.
Sad but true, I suppose we can only hope that one day they’ll go back down a more experimental route like in the 90s, though I concede I may be asking to much.
@@BainesMkII Then why did the choose Kupp for Slaughter's Triple T? Kupp isn't exactly an established name in the line. They just throw darts at a board of names and vehicles.
@@cujoedaman The only surprise with Kupp is that he's coming before an Optimus Prime. Beyond Bumblebee and Optimus, the rest of the Autobots are more of an interchangeable grab bag. Kupp is also coming several years into this line, giving Hasbro time to react to consumer reception and criticism. As for the continued lack of an Optimus Prime, that could be a price or scale issue. Hasbro presumably wants Optimus to be both big and iconic, to match Megatron's HISS. That leaves out smaller vehicles like the VAMP or RAM. But the direct counterpart to the HISS is the MOBAT, an even larger tank which would be even more expensive (and likely face even more criticism for being even more hollow). Something like the Flagg is out of the question, while flying vehicles like the Skystriker and Dragonfly may be too much of a stretch for Optimus. That pretty much leaves less popular and/or wonkier options, like the HAVOC or the somewhat dull APC.
I actually like the Machine Wars Megatron, though I did feel the need to remove his stickers. He's cute, and his colors are great. Beast Machines Megatron is also not that bad. In fact, if they changed his gimmick from the neck snapping thing to a firing mouth missile, he'd be pretty good.
We all know titanium is going to be number one without a doubt. Generally, I’ve always liked the variety amongst his toys, but I’d have to say that the original masterpiece figure and the beast machines Mega would have to be my least favorite. One is too clunky and overly complicated and the other one is just squat and dinky compared to the awesome dragon figure from the previous line.
Megs should’ve been given a Nightraven as an Alt Mode instead, maybe give it his IDW Stealth Bomber colors. Or alternatively, have it be his G2 Color Scheme and package him with Old Snake.
I get why people dislike CW Megs, but i still like him. His shoulders are weird, but he still has a nice overall look to him. Was never impressed enough by Siege to replace my CW Megs. Hopefully 86 Megatron is worth doing that.
Thrilling 30/combiner wars Leader megatron I will admit is very janky. But I must say he has a very charming silhouette and a simple but very fun transformation with a really nice tank mode. It's not for everybody, But he does have a charm to him
I do actually like the HISS Tank Megatron, but the complains about it are totally valid. It's worth noting, as you said, all the next ones in the line are somewhat less obsessive about keeping the exact robot mode silhouette for the characters.
I have the combiner wars armada megatron and idk, I love him. The fact that he’s so tall yet so simple makes him such a fun toy to just look at and mess around with. I love complicated transformers, and highly articulated transformers, but sometimes the big, dumb, in your face figures get the job done really well.
@@TheForeverRanger oh totally agree. He’s the current centerpiece on my decepticon shelf because he just looks cool, I love the head and face sculpt, and I moved the fusion cannon around to the side of his arm but simply transforming his forearm so the cannon looks way better that way. Also I know a lotta people have done this but flaring out the tank treads on his back gives a better illusion to the original shoulder tower treads
My hottest of hot takes this year; Combiner Wars Megatron would've been better recived as a voyager, and further I'm convinced it was concived as Voyager for Thrilling 30 the year before but somehow and for some reason it was blew up to leader size, nothing was changed to make it fit the size class better and released in Combiner Wars to pad the Leader price point for that year. Nothing about the figure says Leader Class, but it feels like a Thrilling 30 Voyager Class and nothing will convince me that that wasn't the og intent behind the design. It would have been recived better as a voyager. Nothing will change my mind.
Couldn't disagree with you more on the Combiner War figure. Yes it has issues but that's one of my absolute favorite Megs toys that I have. He just looks awesome to me, I always love a Megs whose fusion cannon doesn't have to come off during transformation, and most importantly I love that they somehow managed to work in actual functioning tank treads instead of the usual fake treads with little wheels underneath.
Ouch, my soul hurt with all the bashing of Most Wanted Megatron... that was a grail figure of mine and I was so happy to get it. I guess I'm the one guy it was made for. lol
16:24 This version of Megatron (the Sylas Breakdown retool) is strangely one I want to acquire Slightly off tangent, aforementioned Breakdown mold would look neat as Movie 07 Ratchet. (In both his green paint scheme and the white and red deco)
I like/love that MP Megatron you mentioned and showed there, but then you mentioned his lankiness/wobblines and I thou: OH YOU HITTED MY skinny point... you are right. I still like the figure.
God, I hated that 07 Voyager Megs. It felt so creaky and janky to handle, and I think kid me got fed up with it, tried to rip the ice chunks off, and then abandoned it in the closet lol. And somehow that mold got like 4 different decos.
i chose the "armada" option for that combiner wars leader class. i like it sure . but you cant pose it at all so he just kinda stands there and thats fine i guess the head looks so good with some light shining through the light pipping so
You’re completely right about that bludgeon , and as for a sword it still has a curve to it. I have tried to straighten it out many many times , I like the idea of samurai Megatron, They should’ve just made a completely new body using the samurai theme
I don't collect a ton of Megatrons, so the only one on the list I have personal experience with is Beast Machines Megatron, and I don't really hate it, or at least I prefer it to a giant head that connects to nothing and runs around on little legs. It's not worth a Mega just because the wings are so long, but it's not bad in its own right.
I think he is done with that series, he still hasn't done PCC Double Clutch, I would love to see him do more, but maybe the stress is getting to him, or he is done with it now
22:00 RID and Armada are still my most favorite designs of Megatron to this very day with the Anime-Demonic-Tyrant-Emperor style and all. But that "Build to Rule" Lego set is completely humiliating! If any version of Meg's designs ever gets the Lego treatment again, it better be Lego official or even "Mega Blocks" instead next time. (No pun intended.)
God, MP-5... I got one in November 2013, and it was a bad sign when I noticed it had two left feet. And that part of the feet were die-cast, so it was not transformable without removing that wrong foot. And then, after just a few months, the tiny, skinny little die-cast spine snapped at the hinge.
I actually don't mind earthrise Megatron as an earth tank. Keep in mind there were only slight changes to the vehicle from siege to earthrise on other characters. Anything more may have been a bit too drastic. Maybe. But as a robot? The head, excessive back pack and awkward weapons are overwhelmingly inconvenient. Add in the already flimsy feet and you have a strong candidate for worst megatron anyway. I can go all day about this and that but the titanium anything will always rank high in all time worst. Many of these were about timing when they were released. As bad as the combiner wars Megatron was, the paint scheme and close enough head scult at retail was cool. Now it's every 3 months...not as cool
One question answered with another: How many times has TJ had to deal with "Here's how we can get a new gun Megatron toy!" as a question or video topic?
Even with all the issues with 2015's Combiner Wars Megatron, it's an affordable Masterpiece-scale Megatron that LOOKS as he should and can turn into a tank. Plus big points for actually having functional treads! So that's what represents the character on my shelf until something better comes along that I can jive with.
I think that the Green Breakdown should have been a Toxictron, not Megatron, or a new character. My god that BM Megatron was bad, I had it as a kid and yikes.
I know this wouldnt have worked with the 3 3/4th scale but i feel like the GIJoe ones should've just done the micro figure thing from the Star Wars bots to save on budget
It’s probably an unpopular opinion, but the original G1 toy should’ve been on this list. It’s a floppy mess, has terrible proportions, and the bot mode suffers too much from the alt mode. Even as a kid, I thought it was one of the weakest TFs we had.
I would argue that Combiner Wars Megatron kicked off the popularity of G1 masterpiece “esque” figures. Sure there were masterpieces before it but this figure made it mainstream and reinvigorated G1 transformers toys
Built to rule Transformer toys made me laugh whenever I saw them in the store. For some reason on the box they always posed the Transformers with one leg forward with the foot turned sideways.
I have the Combiner Wars and the Seige Megatron. Combiner looked like they concentrated too hard on the tank and Seige looks like they didn't know what to do with it. I had the ice megatron and the beast machines ones. Your points are justified. Since I don't think Megatron would disguise himself. I think his alt mode should be based on using his fusion cannon on full power.
I have a soft spot for Movie Megatron since the first movie kind of got me back into the series following Cybertron and he and movie Optimus were my definitives for a long while, but I wasn't a fan of how messy he looked and how...weird it was to transform him.
Fun fact, the HISS Tank Megatron was not designed by the Transformers team, but actually the GI Joe team, just like the other crossovers. That’s why they’re so disappointing.
I would like to see that siege Megatron mold get used at least two more times , with some retooling to create A second type of the decepticon soldier & sparkless bots or zombie transformers
I have nostalgia for combiner wars megatron, it's the one I grew up with and I like how it looks. It's big, and has a presence to it, with real moving treads and a nice swiveling turret. It looks good standing on a shelf. Unfortunately, the posing is abysmal, his legs literally cant move forward. He has good qualities to him but I dont recommend him
Let's just hope the upcoming Studio Series '86 Megatron finally gives us a REALLY good tank Megatron toy. So many of the figures on this list were pretty awful
The reasons for Cybertron’s Most Wanted Megatron being here are pretty silly I think, especially when it’s a well liked mold, and is very clearly a novelty item. It being sold for really cheap during a fire sale isn’t really indicative of the quality of a toy either, same with being a redeco “nobody asked for”. If you need to get rid of items really quickly for cheap, you sell them for half price, and weird repaints used to happen all the time. I think stuff like that made Transformers more fun. There’s definitely some kind of demand for it too, because the figure on its own sells for around $100. A good example would be something like Animated Jackpot. I would never have thought to ask funpub to turn the Animated Jazz mold into him, but they did & it’s pretty awesome.
Beyond all of the other issues with HISS Megatron, I don't like that they didn't make the twin turret the replacement for his arm cannon. Instead they just made the HISS turret part of his backpack in robot mode, and tank mode gets an out-of-place Megatron fusion cannon that can sit on top of the regular turret?
FYI. The first Masterpiece Megatron, MP-05, was designed in that many days. Five. That's why it sucks. Not because Megatron is too hard for Takara to engineer. They were just overcrunched because they had a hundred Bay Movie toys to shit out.
15:36 you don’t like that legends mold as Megatron? It was designed as Megatron. Warpath is the crammed in repaint. I mean you’re entitled to feel how you feel of course, this take just confuses me
I know this is subjective and you've pointed it out in the section itself, but never did I wanna argue with you more than whole part where you were talking about the weird funpub repaints (/lh i'm not mad i'm just baffled) out-there homages and obscure color schemes nobody asked for is a niche in tf collecting that I wish I had the money to get into. that movieverse megatron out of breakdown is so beautiful to me and I so wish I could've gotten that😢
Sorry but, me taking this video seriously.... was kinda 'hurt" out of the gate by picking on Siege Megatron. One of the Best, modern-age, "G1 Megatron" representations. Maybe if he was just referring to the goofy-earthrise remold but, then again, that's not an objectively bad figure either. It has a lot going for it, as it's based on the Siege foundation.
20:36 I wasn't expecting a Digi-Egg in this video, but there it is... Also... is it just me or would the Hiss Tank have looked better with the robot mode in Titanium Megatron colours?
I feel the opposite about Seige/Earthrise Megatron. I don't like any of the Seige figures because they're suppose to be Cybertronian but they are the WORST laziest looking Cybertronian modes I have ever seen in Transformers. A Cybertronian design is suppose to look futuristic, high tech, alien. War Within did that, WfC/FoC did that, Beast Machines did that, Animated did that, even freaking Dawn of Futures Past did it with molds that weren't even originally intended to be that. But Seige, a toy line that was all about Cybertronian designs just gave us lazy pretools that already looked like their eventual Earth modes. Earthrise actually looks better to me because that's the design he was intended to have from the start. The Cybertronian mode is just the Earth mode with barely anything changed on it. Also I've heard horror stories about MP Megatron breaking in half. I'm surprised you didn't mention that. But honestly... Megatron as a gun is always the worst Megatron. The only reason people even want gun Megatron is for accuracy to the G1 cartoon and beyond that it was always a terrible design. I'm going to add Armada Megatron... and I'm putting him here for one reason... I HATE the head design on this figure. If he didn't have the antlers and the head could retract into the torso I would love this design but for some reason they gave him giant antlers that work as a capture claw in vehicle mode but he's a tank when are you ever going to get close enough to use that? It's a dumb weapon. Also it has a pannel that flips out to hide his face but the pannel is useless cause you don't see his face anyway, it's pointed at the ground. They could have used that same gimmick to retract the head into the torso so he doesn't just have an obvious robot head right there. Oh and Galvatron is even worse because they swapped out his nice camo green color scheme for bright white and pink, what's he going to blend in to? Is he planning an assault on Candy Land and needs to blend in with Cotton Candy. I HATE the Galvatron colors on that toy. Megatron only looks bad because of the head but EVERYTHING looks bad when he's repainted into Galvatron. 2007, RotF, DotM, and AoE are all terrible. I hate how he looks. But just so I'm not just complaining about my hate for the movie designs 2007 is also a pain to Transform, it really shouldn't be but it is. RotF has 2 figures and neither are screen accurate because the leader only looks correct in robot mode and the voyager only looks correct in vehicle mode. DotM has limited articulation with his cape on, his left arm can't move at all. The studio series version fixed that issue giving him a cloth cape which he should of had in the first place. And AoE Galvatron is essentually just a cube that folds onto his back, it doesn't really transform it's just shoving his robot mode into a box. TLK I just think his face is ugly but there's a version with a battle mask and this Megatron looks more solid than all the other Megatrons so this is honestly the one good Bay Megatron. Cybertron mode Animated Megatron. The Earth Mode is my favorite figure of the entire toy line but the Cybertron mode. They modeled him as a simplified version of the 2007 movie design and that vehicle mode is so bad even Hasbro themselves have no clue which direction is suppose to be the front or the top. In the show he was animated with the canon facing forward on the under side of the vehicle mode to match where the Earth mode canon would end up but the actual toy was molded with a cockpit on the back of the canon and landing gear on the opposite side so the vehicle mode was completly backwards and upside down from the animation model. I don't really like the Prime design either but the toy is actually fine for what it was. My only real complaint is that we never really got the Unicron possessed version. You could kind of approximate it if you had that Unicron figure that was only avalible in Japan that for some reason was deigned to combine with Optimus or Megatron but even that didn't really look how it did in the show. And I'm surprised to didn't mention Godzilla Megatron which doesn't really look like either of the characters it's meant to represent and just looks like a lazy Grimlock repaint with a different head that is not a Megatron head.
Yeah, Armada Megatron is easily one of the goofiest incarnations of the character. His antlers make him look like a stag beetle and maybe even an insecticon. And his combined mode with Tidal Wave makes it look like it would be impossible to move his arms.
@@Michael-590 In animation it doesn't actually look that bad because Tidal Wave shrinks down when they combine. But the toy the parts are huge and he literally can't move his arms. The toy becomes a statue when they combine. I honestly wish they would just make a smaller Tidal Wave just for the sake of having an animation accurate combined mode that can still articulate.
Eh, you're right about CW Megs, but, at the same time, you're also wrong. Yes, his articulation is pretty limited, and yes, the shoulders do look odd. BUT, the tank mode, imo, looks great, and the DX9 upgrade kit goes a long way to improving how the robot mode looks, and functions. I have the third party KBB Obsidian repaint of the mold, which comes with the DX9 kit in the box, and it transforms the look of the figure, and gives it a commanding shelf presence quite unlike any other mainline Megatron toy
Can't be too harsh on the GI Joe crossover. That was designed by the Joe team and that was their first Transformer figure most of them worked on. With that being considered, I think it turned out great!
Double Pretender Megatron was worth it for two things;
1: The idea of Frank Welker shouting "SUIT ON! _PRETENDER!_ "
2: Spacewarp's dialogue with him and her bio describing her in ways that sound like she's his wife.
Of Masters and Mayhem was just silly "we're losing the license anyway; might as well go out with a fanwanky bang" fun. Didn't hurt that we had great prose stories like "Life Finds a Way" (the one with the Raptoricons, LOVE those babes), the one that actually touches on the nuances of Bluestreak's character (the PTSD that he distracts himself from by chatting so much) and that tragic one that made Alpha Bravo and Off-Road into actual characters alongside really fun Combiner Wars retools/repaints (still the best Toxitron even after the Evolution one, Impactor and Fractyl are clever mold reuses, and there's something hysterical about G1 Optimus actually being made into both trukk and munky via a repaint of Oilmaster's shell).
I won't argue that CW Megatron was perfect, but I liked it because they went with mostly silver instead of flat gray. That alone gives it a bit of G1 toy vibe that most versions don't have.
I think it's perfect. I have it displayed in the foyer in a glass enclosure along with the CW seekers and a painted background. Megatron is posed with one hand on his hip, looking at Starscream with his coronation crown on (the crown came with CW Starscream) People smile and ask about it literally EVERY time they come in the door, and it's usually, "Oh my god where did you get that Megatron?"
It’s a not a true “Worst Megatron Toys” video without mentioning the Titanium G.I. Joe figure.
Truly the worst toy conceived
Not only is that the worst Megatron toy ever, but it's the worst transformers toy ever as well
I would say it's tied with the Armada sideswip/Cybertron runamuck mold@@nucleonegro9762
I had that figure. Every now and again I run into a piece
Ugh. Primus, that figure was a *MONSTROSITY.*
The Legends tank guy cam out as Megatron before it was used for Warpath. It was an IDW Gladiator Megatron with hazard stripes. He came with a lttle Chopshop!
Blisteringly hot take: I want a redo of Titanium Megatron before we get a redo of Animated, G2, Cybertron, or even RID 2001 Megatron. It’s a horrible toy, yes, but I think the design deserves a second chance. I will laugh so hard if the current design team is able to turn the worst figure ever made into a best of the year contender.
Yeah, there's a lot of good designs with bad toys
redo all of titanium
right, I don't hate this idea, but before the others that were mentioned? Fuck no. Also which titanium megs, cause there were 2
RID01 Megatron is CHUG scale already anyway, genuinely slots right in size wise. Granted, not the easiest thing in the world to find, but relatively decent prices for a leader class on the aftermarket
CW Megatron wasn't perfect, but it was the first G1 styled megatron since the Classics Nerf gun one if I'm not mistaken, nowadays it got overshadowed a lot, but at the time it wasn't that bad.
For me the list lacks one very important Megatron. The original G1 one. Yes is nostalgic, yes the microchange one was kinda cool, but it never was good as the leader of the decepticons or to be paired with the other transformer toys. He was flimsy, weird proportioned, very thin on parts, unfortunate placed trigger on his robot mode... Lots of thinks you complain about in other ones in the list, specially the MP one, apply to the G1. Maybe not include it in the list proper because first and such... but at least an honorable mention...
Surprised ROTF Leader Megatron isn't on here, with his strong hand.
I actually like CW Megs.
Same. It’s still my favorite tank style G1 Megs.
Same. The poseability is middling, everything else is pretty fantastic. The tank mode with actual treads in particular.
Its awkward shoulders is my only complaint
Cw Megs is also one of my all time favorites
I have Combiner Wars Megatron with the DX-9 upgrade kit, and also gave him the blade from Siege Megatron. He is my main Megatron next to MP-10 Optimus.
I really like that weird little machine wars f22 megaplex/megatron thing, it doesn't fit the character it was sold as but still looks like a nice figure to mess around with if you just don't think of it as megs
I always thought that the best bet for a Transformers G.I.Joe crossover would be to focus on figures that already turn into military style vehicles, maybe Hound, Warpath, and the aerial bots for Autobots/Joe, the seekers, Combaticons, and Blitzwing for Decepticons/Cobra.
The cold reality is that bigger names sell better, overriding logical design sense. From a design standpoint, it was obvious the green military jeep (Vamp) should be matched with the green military jeep (Hound), and at least reasonable for the green dune buggy (Striker) to be the blue/grey dune buggy (Beachcomber). However, Bumblebee is one of the three biggest names in modern Transformers, so we instead got a normally yellow car Bumblebee shoehorned into becoming a green dune buggy.
Sad but true, I suppose we can only hope that one day they’ll go back down a more experimental route like in the 90s, though I concede I may be asking to much.
The mobile game Eart Wars has the crossovers that hasbro should make
@@BainesMkII Then why did the choose Kupp for Slaughter's Triple T? Kupp isn't exactly an established name in the line.
They just throw darts at a board of names and vehicles.
@@cujoedaman The only surprise with Kupp is that he's coming before an Optimus Prime. Beyond Bumblebee and Optimus, the rest of the Autobots are more of an interchangeable grab bag. Kupp is also coming several years into this line, giving Hasbro time to react to consumer reception and criticism.
As for the continued lack of an Optimus Prime, that could be a price or scale issue. Hasbro presumably wants Optimus to be both big and iconic, to match Megatron's HISS. That leaves out smaller vehicles like the VAMP or RAM. But the direct counterpart to the HISS is the MOBAT, an even larger tank which would be even more expensive (and likely face even more criticism for being even more hollow). Something like the Flagg is out of the question, while flying vehicles like the Skystriker and Dragonfly may be too much of a stretch for Optimus. That pretty much leaves less popular and/or wonkier options, like the HAVOC or the somewhat dull APC.
I know the ice was bad, but I do like the mold for movie 1 Megatron.
I actually like the Machine Wars Megatron, though I did feel the need to remove his stickers. He's cute, and his colors are great. Beast Machines Megatron is also not that bad. In fact, if they changed his gimmick from the neck snapping thing to a firing mouth missile, he'd be pretty good.
I like 2 of them in the video. That Beast machines Megs reminds me of those transforming Digi-eggs from a while back.
Hiss Tank Megatron was the biggest disappointment in 40 years
@@rmgonzalez23 I get what they were going for, but the toy just doesn’t add up it seems.
Hence why I always nicknamed it the P.I.S.S. Tank
Just like with Titanium it's also easy to tell when they hand off a Transformers project to a different team
@@Big-Imagethat’s a good one
@@Alexisilveralso the Star Wars and Marvel crossovers
14:38 nah this Pretender Megatron is actually peak
I think combiner wars meg is pretty good actually. Looks great in both modes. To be fair, I don’t care about play ability
12:00 the legion Megatron was the only one where the ice colors were the repaint rather than the original
We all know titanium is going to be number one without a doubt. Generally, I’ve always liked the variety amongst his toys, but I’d have to say that the original masterpiece figure and the beast machines Mega would have to be my least favorite. One is too clunky and overly complicated and the other one is just squat and dinky compared to the awesome dragon figure from the previous line.
Megs should’ve been given a Nightraven as an Alt Mode instead, maybe give it his IDW Stealth Bomber colors.
Or alternatively, have it be his G2 Color Scheme and package him with Old Snake.
Most Wanted Megatron is one of those figures I always wanted along with that Collection Club Rewind and Cromedome
Ay yo, leave my boy CW Megs alone darnit!
I liked that toy, I agree that he was a bit rickety, his turret swivel felt like it was going to shake itself apart
I understand what your saying about the Megatron Hiss Tank. But overall I was happy with it. Sometimes you just get what you get.
I get why people dislike CW Megs, but i still like him. His shoulders are weird, but he still has a nice overall look to him. Was never impressed enough by Siege to replace my CW Megs.
Hopefully 86 Megatron is worth doing that.
Thrilling 30/combiner wars Leader megatron I will admit is very janky. But I must say he has a very charming silhouette and a simple but very fun transformation with a really nice tank mode. It's not for everybody, But he does have a charm to him
I do actually like the HISS Tank Megatron, but the complains about it are totally valid. It's worth noting, as you said, all the next ones in the line are somewhat less obsessive about keeping the exact robot mode silhouette for the characters.
I have the combiner wars armada megatron and idk, I love him. The fact that he’s so tall yet so simple makes him such a fun toy to just look at and mess around with. I love complicated transformers, and highly articulated transformers, but sometimes the big, dumb, in your face figures get the job done really well.
Works better as Armada than "G1".
@@TheForeverRanger oh totally agree. He’s the current centerpiece on my decepticon shelf because he just looks cool, I love the head and face sculpt, and I moved the fusion cannon around to the side of his arm but simply transforming his forearm so the cannon looks way better that way. Also I know a lotta people have done this but flaring out the tank treads on his back gives a better illusion to the original shoulder tower treads
My hottest of hot takes this year; Combiner Wars Megatron would've been better recived as a voyager, and further I'm convinced it was concived as Voyager for Thrilling 30 the year before but somehow and for some reason it was blew up to leader size, nothing was changed to make it fit the size class better and released in Combiner Wars to pad the Leader price point for that year. Nothing about the figure says Leader Class, but it feels like a Thrilling 30 Voyager Class and nothing will convince me that that wasn't the og intent behind the design. It would have been recived better as a voyager.
Nothing will change my mind.
Couldn't disagree with you more on the Combiner War figure. Yes it has issues but that's one of my absolute favorite Megs toys that I have. He just looks awesome to me, I always love a Megs whose fusion cannon doesn't have to come off during transformation, and most importantly I love that they somehow managed to work in actual functioning tank treads instead of the usual fake treads with little wheels underneath.
Ouch, my soul hurt with all the bashing of Most Wanted Megatron... that was a grail figure of mine and I was so happy to get it. I guess I'm the one guy it was made for. lol
16:24 This version of Megatron (the Sylas Breakdown retool) is strangely one I want to acquire
Slightly off tangent, aforementioned Breakdown mold would look neat as Movie 07 Ratchet. (In both his green paint scheme and the white and red deco)
I like/love that MP Megatron you mentioned and showed there, but then you mentioned his lankiness/wobblines and I thou: OH YOU HITTED MY skinny point... you are right.
I still like the figure.
God, I hated that 07 Voyager Megs. It felt so creaky and janky to handle, and I think kid me got fed up with it, tried to rip the ice chunks off, and then abandoned it in the closet lol. And somehow that mold got like 4 different decos.
This kind of content is fun. Trying to figure out the worst designs on our channel too! Good stuff, TJOmega!
i chose the "armada" option for that combiner wars leader class. i like it sure . but you cant pose it at all so he just kinda stands there and thats fine i guess the head looks so good with some light shining through the light pipping so
22:10 the absolute madman
You’re completely right about that bludgeon , and as for a sword it still has a curve to it. I have tried to straighten it out many many times , I like the idea of samurai Megatron, They should’ve just made a completely new body using the samurai theme
I don't collect a ton of Megatrons, so the only one on the list I have personal experience with is Beast Machines Megatron, and I don't really hate it, or at least I prefer it to a giant head that connects to nothing and runs around on little legs. It's not worth a Mega just because the wings are so long, but it's not bad in its own right.
I know it probably won’t ever happen…but imagine if LEGO actually got the license to do ARMADA Transformers!
I actually like the combinor wars Megatron.
He looks really cool
I like the Siege Megatron mold.
The Earthrise version isn't the worst, it is a bit weak but mainly harmless
Ever thought of covering the Hiss Tank Megatron on Plastic Addict?
I think he is done with that series, he still hasn't done PCC Double Clutch, I would love to see him do more, but maybe the stress is getting to him, or he is done with it now
Combiner War Megatron was the second one i brought for my collection, with Combiner War Skywarp being my first one. I have some foundness for him
8:23 Megatron X.
It should have been Megatron X, the black and red work perfectly, you would've been amazing. You'd have more tank in the robot.
22:00 RID and Armada are still my most favorite designs of Megatron to this very day with the Anime-Demonic-Tyrant-Emperor style and all. But that "Build to Rule" Lego set is completely humiliating! If any version of Meg's designs ever gets the Lego treatment again, it better be Lego official or even "Mega Blocks" instead next time. (No pun intended.)
Damn, there goes my brownie points.
God, MP-5... I got one in November 2013, and it was a bad sign when I noticed it had two left feet. And that part of the feet were die-cast, so it was not transformable without removing that wrong foot. And then, after just a few months, the tiny, skinny little die-cast spine snapped at the hinge.
That's insane
I actually don't mind earthrise Megatron as an earth tank. Keep in mind there were only slight changes to the vehicle from siege to earthrise on other characters. Anything more may have been a bit too drastic. Maybe. But as a robot? The head, excessive back pack and awkward weapons are overwhelmingly inconvenient. Add in the already flimsy feet and you have a strong candidate for worst megatron anyway. I can go all day about this and that but the titanium anything will always rank high in all time worst. Many of these were about timing when they were released. As bad as the combiner wars Megatron was, the paint scheme and close enough head scult at retail was cool. Now it's every 3 months...not as cool
I thought you said Hot Shot was the worst Built To Rule Armada figure.
Does Ultimate Battle Megatron from that 2 pack with optimus count as a worst megatron toy.
wich one you mean? could you post a link to the picture?
I am surprised myself that that specific Megatron toy was not mentioned.
That 2007 movie Megatron was DOPE. Childhood memories lol
I want a revamp of the Combiner Wars take, because it’s got something real good going. The Robosen Megatron shows that.
I've been saying for nearly a decade now, it should have been a Voyager. I'm 100% sure people would like it more if it were.
You totally lost me with Combiner Wars Megs. Looks great. Solid. Working rubber treads. Articulation wasn’t the best but no where near top worst Megs.
That "worst" megs looks like a distant ancestor of kingdom slammer
Big disagree on Combiner wars Megatron. It is still my favorite , despite a couple of flaws.
Anyone else think that Megatron should transform into his Fusion Cannon?
Like, take him Cannon and fuse it with a VTOL Jet.
Honorary mention to D-16, the retroactive original sin.
How?
One question answered with another: How many times has TJ had to deal with "Here's how we can get a new gun Megatron toy!" as a question or video topic?
Are you talking about the studio series' d-16?@@JonCrs10
No, the G1 gun Megatron whose Takara number is referenced by him having it as his actual name.
Even with all the issues with 2015's Combiner Wars Megatron, it's an affordable Masterpiece-scale Megatron that LOOKS as he should and can turn into a tank. Plus big points for actually having functional treads! So that's what represents the character on my shelf until something better comes along that I can jive with.
I think that the Green Breakdown should have been a Toxictron, not Megatron, or a new character. My god that BM Megatron was bad, I had it as a kid and yikes.
We don't talk about titanium Megatron
I know this wouldnt have worked with the 3 3/4th scale but i feel like the GIJoe ones should've just done the micro figure thing from the Star Wars bots to save on budget
It’s probably an unpopular opinion, but the original G1 toy should’ve been on this list. It’s a floppy mess, has terrible proportions, and the bot mode suffers too much from the alt mode. Even as a kid, I thought it was one of the weakest TFs we had.
Guess it gets a pass for being the first Megatron.
Agreed. It's so damned bad.
I wish TJ Omega would bring back Plastic Addict, It would be cool to see him review figs like Combiner Wars Motormaster and Earthrise Megatron
I would argue that Combiner Wars Megatron kicked off the popularity of G1 masterpiece “esque” figures. Sure there were masterpieces before it but this figure made it mainstream and reinvigorated G1 transformers toys
Built to rule Transformer toys made me laugh whenever I saw them in the store. For some reason on the box they always posed the Transformers with one leg forward with the foot turned sideways.
I have the Combiner Wars and the Seige Megatron. Combiner looked like they concentrated too hard on the tank and Seige looks like they didn't know what to do with it. I had the ice megatron and the beast machines ones. Your points are justified. Since I don't think Megatron would disguise himself. I think his alt mode should be based on using his fusion cannon on full power.
BotCon did what Machine Wars Megatron should’ve been: Megaplex but darker grey and black in place of the blue parts
I actually want that bot con Megatron. His cheapest price on eBay is 113 to 130 bucks.
I have a soft spot for Movie Megatron since the first movie kind of got me back into the series following Cybertron and he and movie Optimus were my definitives for a long while, but I wasn't a fan of how messy he looked and how...weird it was to transform him.
Fun fact, the HISS Tank Megatron was not designed by the Transformers team, but actually the GI Joe team, just like the other crossovers. That’s why they’re so disappointing.
Megatron was before Grimlock in the old MP lineup
I would like to see that siege Megatron mold get used at least two more times , with some retooling to create A second type of the decepticon soldier & sparkless bots or zombie transformers
At least the Bludgeon Megs wasn't a recolor of the Siege mould
That first mp looks like a hot mess
I have nostalgia for combiner wars megatron, it's the one I grew up with and I like how it looks. It's big, and has a presence to it, with real moving treads and a nice swiveling turret. It looks good standing on a shelf.
Unfortunately, the posing is abysmal, his legs literally cant move forward. He has good qualities to him but I dont recommend him
Titanium Megatron has good colors tho. Black, purple and grey screams Decepticon.
Let's just hope the upcoming Studio Series '86 Megatron finally gives us a REALLY good tank Megatron toy. So many of the figures on this list were pretty awful
And hopefully a fan mode for his gun mode
I will never understand why they used Prime Breakdown for Megatron AND NOT FOR CANNONBALL.
Can’t help but wonder what would happen if Hasbro made a modern day toy of Titanium Megatron.
The reasons for Cybertron’s Most Wanted Megatron being here are pretty silly I think, especially when it’s a well liked mold, and is very clearly a novelty item. It being sold for really cheap during a fire sale isn’t really indicative of the quality of a toy either, same with being a redeco “nobody asked for”. If you need to get rid of items really quickly for cheap, you sell them for half price, and weird repaints used to happen all the time. I think stuff like that made Transformers more fun. There’s definitely some kind of demand for it too, because the figure on its own sells for around $100.
A good example would be something like Animated Jackpot. I would never have thought to ask funpub to turn the Animated Jazz mold into him, but they did & it’s pretty awesome.
Beyond all of the other issues with HISS Megatron, I don't like that they didn't make the twin turret the replacement for his arm cannon. Instead they just made the HISS turret part of his backpack in robot mode, and tank mode gets an out-of-place Megatron fusion cannon that can sit on top of the regular turret?
Was looking for the Titanium figure, was not disappointed
If it doesn't transform into a gun, then it should be in the list.
FYI. The first Masterpiece Megatron, MP-05, was designed in that many days. Five. That's why it sucks. Not because Megatron is too hard for Takara to engineer. They were just overcrunched because they had a hundred Bay Movie toys to shit out.
There’s nothing wrong with Earthrise Megatron or Combiner Wars 🤷🏻♂️
That Earthrise Megatron. What on earth happened to his head?
HFTD Banzaitron and Sea Spray are two of my childhood favorite figures I love the mold but that is a bad looking Megatron
15:36 you don’t like that legends mold as Megatron? It was designed as Megatron. Warpath is the crammed in repaint. I mean you’re entitled to feel how you feel of course, this take just confuses me
I’m surprised that he didn’t include the leader class revenge of the fallen megatron from 2009
I know this is subjective and you've pointed it out in the section itself, but never did I wanna argue with you more than whole part where you were talking about the weird funpub repaints (/lh i'm not mad i'm just baffled)
out-there homages and obscure color schemes nobody asked for is a niche in tf collecting that I wish I had the money to get into. that movieverse megatron out of breakdown is so beautiful to me and I so wish I could've gotten that😢
We need HasTak to make another go at the War Within design.
Sorry but, me taking this video seriously.... was kinda 'hurt" out of the gate by picking on Siege Megatron. One of the Best, modern-age, "G1 Megatron" representations. Maybe if he was just referring to the goofy-earthrise remold but, then again, that's not an objectively bad figure either. It has a lot going for it, as it's based on the Siege foundation.
I actually like G1 Hiss Tank Megatron. Didn’t like Bumblebee though. I do like Soundwave and I’m looking forward to Kup.
20:36 I wasn't expecting a Digi-Egg in this video, but there it is...
Also... is it just me or would the Hiss Tank have looked better with the robot mode in Titanium Megatron colours?
I feel the opposite about Seige/Earthrise Megatron. I don't like any of the Seige figures because they're suppose to be Cybertronian but they are the WORST laziest looking Cybertronian modes I have ever seen in Transformers.
A Cybertronian design is suppose to look futuristic, high tech, alien. War Within did that, WfC/FoC did that, Beast Machines did that, Animated did that, even freaking Dawn of Futures Past did it with molds that weren't even originally intended to be that. But Seige, a toy line that was all about Cybertronian designs just gave us lazy pretools that already looked like their eventual Earth modes.
Earthrise actually looks better to me because that's the design he was intended to have from the start. The Cybertronian mode is just the Earth mode with barely anything changed on it.
Also I've heard horror stories about MP Megatron breaking in half. I'm surprised you didn't mention that. But honestly... Megatron as a gun is always the worst Megatron. The only reason people even want gun Megatron is for accuracy to the G1 cartoon and beyond that it was always a terrible design.
I'm going to add Armada Megatron... and I'm putting him here for one reason... I HATE the head design on this figure. If he didn't have the antlers and the head could retract into the torso I would love this design but for some reason they gave him giant antlers that work as a capture claw in vehicle mode but he's a tank when are you ever going to get close enough to use that? It's a dumb weapon. Also it has a pannel that flips out to hide his face but the pannel is useless cause you don't see his face anyway, it's pointed at the ground. They could have used that same gimmick to retract the head into the torso so he doesn't just have an obvious robot head right there. Oh and Galvatron is even worse because they swapped out his nice camo green color scheme for bright white and pink, what's he going to blend in to? Is he planning an assault on Candy Land and needs to blend in with Cotton Candy. I HATE the Galvatron colors on that toy. Megatron only looks bad because of the head but EVERYTHING looks bad when he's repainted into Galvatron.
2007, RotF, DotM, and AoE are all terrible. I hate how he looks. But just so I'm not just complaining about my hate for the movie designs 2007 is also a pain to Transform, it really shouldn't be but it is. RotF has 2 figures and neither are screen accurate because the leader only looks correct in robot mode and the voyager only looks correct in vehicle mode. DotM has limited articulation with his cape on, his left arm can't move at all. The studio series version fixed that issue giving him a cloth cape which he should of had in the first place. And AoE Galvatron is essentually just a cube that folds onto his back, it doesn't really transform it's just shoving his robot mode into a box.
TLK I just think his face is ugly but there's a version with a battle mask and this Megatron looks more solid than all the other Megatrons so this is honestly the one good Bay Megatron.
Cybertron mode Animated Megatron. The Earth Mode is my favorite figure of the entire toy line but the Cybertron mode. They modeled him as a simplified version of the 2007 movie design and that vehicle mode is so bad even Hasbro themselves have no clue which direction is suppose to be the front or the top. In the show he was animated with the canon facing forward on the under side of the vehicle mode to match where the Earth mode canon would end up but the actual toy was molded with a cockpit on the back of the canon and landing gear on the opposite side so the vehicle mode was completly backwards and upside down from the animation model.
I don't really like the Prime design either but the toy is actually fine for what it was. My only real complaint is that we never really got the Unicron possessed version. You could kind of approximate it if you had that Unicron figure that was only avalible in Japan that for some reason was deigned to combine with Optimus or Megatron but even that didn't really look how it did in the show.
And I'm surprised to didn't mention Godzilla Megatron which doesn't really look like either of the characters it's meant to represent and just looks like a lazy Grimlock repaint with a different head that is not a Megatron head.
Yeah, Armada Megatron is easily one of the goofiest incarnations of the character. His antlers make him look like a stag beetle and maybe even an insecticon. And his combined mode with Tidal Wave makes it look like it would be impossible to move his arms.
@@Michael-590 In animation it doesn't actually look that bad because Tidal Wave shrinks down when they combine. But the toy the parts are huge and he literally can't move his arms. The toy becomes a statue when they combine. I honestly wish they would just make a smaller Tidal Wave just for the sake of having an animation accurate combined mode that can still articulate.
Eh, you're right about CW Megs, but, at the same time, you're also wrong. Yes, his articulation is pretty limited, and yes, the shoulders do look odd. BUT, the tank mode, imo, looks great, and the DX9 upgrade kit goes a long way to improving how the robot mode looks, and functions. I have the third party KBB Obsidian repaint of the mold, which comes with the DX9 kit in the box, and it transforms the look of the figure, and gives it a commanding shelf presence quite unlike any other mainline Megatron toy
First time seeing GDO Megatron, but I think it looks awesome.
Bludgeon is an awesome figure. But that mold shouldn’t be Megatron
Can't be too harsh on the GI Joe crossover. That was designed by the Joe team and that was their first Transformer figure most of them worked on. With that being considered, I think it turned out great!
That hiss tank is going be the studio 86 megatron lol
MPM Megatron is the best Movie Megatron we’re going to get