Probably thinks that a single 1st hand experience is automatically a common experience amongst many or are desperate to make it so to make themselves feel more normal and 'in touch' rather than being in the bubble and just a fragment of society that gets to be privileged unlike 90% of the population does.
One of the most egocentric and delusional people to ever enter mainstream politics in this country. One of the very few things the tories ever got right during their time in power is getting rid of her as prime minster so quickly
the kid 6 minutes in genuinely looks like he has no idea why he’s a tory, like he just rolled out of bed and into a nice clean ironed shirt and trousers and ended up at their conference, incapable of not stumbling into his own pained half mumbled critiques of neoliberalism.. he needs a splash of cold water on his face, a hug, a mars bar, and a new group of friends bless him
Just funny to see him almost connect the dots. "How many consultants do we need"? But also he's a neoliberal, or at least supports neoliberal parties? Vv odd
He's actually giving things a thought, instead of most small-c conservatives around the world who just parrot narratives and cliches. I don't know what he's doing in that party.
Same. For a brief moment, while Corbyn was in charge of the Labour Party, I felt some hope; some postivity, enthusiasm, and engagement with politics. Having once felt that, I now know it is possible to feel that way (who knew?) and I'd like some more of that.
(Most) charity is just an example of failure of the apparatus of the state, in properly protecting it's most vulnerable citizens. The mark of a successful and effective society is how it looks after those at the lowest rungs; unable to look after themselves; regardless of whether that's temporarily, or not. Efficient, and effective taxation should be sufficient to provide for the most essential needs of the most vulnerable. Instead, charities provide for the most frivolous of needs, of the least deserving. A cushy, 6 figure directorship, to captain a workforce comprised of unpaid volunteers, and underpaid support staff, here... Lucrative tax write-offs, prestigious galas events and networking opportunities there... Plus, whilst the champagne flows, the shams pose; pain of others massage their egos... All just placebos, that conceals stables of high horses; on which they deludely gallop & gallivant through fields of philanthropic fame; masked raid by highway rob us, blind cloak pockets lined; barely hide misanthropic disdain...
Yes he sort of contradicted himself by saying " alot of people involved in charity are Conservatives " and then went onto describe others as ' scroungers'.
It's that old question - who is more charitable - the millionaire who can give 10k and not notice It's gone, or someone giving the £10 they can barely afford, to someone who needs it even more than they do?
@@rothwellaudio not necessarily. If I tell you about something that happened to me last Wednesday, that's an anecdote. If I tell you that last Wednesday I was robbed, and that the thief happened to be foreign, and then I extrapolate from there that all foreigners are thieves, then I'm relying on anecdotal evidence to make my point. And it's a logical fallacy.
@@bigman7933 A judgement based on one's own experience isn't anecdotal, and I have no interest in being your pal. Find some other mug for that arduous task.
11:43 I've worked for charities for my entire career so far, and his assertion that you’ll find more Tories in charitable organisations than other groups doesn’t hold true at all. But in so far as Tories do like charity, I think that has something to do with charities filling the void left by public services. Tories like charities filling that gap because they feel it justifies/mitigates the stripping away of public funding.
Yes, there is a lot about British behaviour traits that is insincere, dishonest, derogatory and aggressive all under the guise of being 'polite'. I find it an indicator of untrustworthiness.
Keep going Owen. Thanks a million for your energy and incitefulness. Yes, you're dead right the real UK socialists need to 'get their act together' asap. Big hug. X
As the right are forced into consensus around the fact that privatisation has failed, they will either blame it on Blair (attempted) or invent a distancing terminology to describe the same thing.
Working in charities, I've met those Tories. They're not compassionate to society and solely care for their own rugged individualism. Not even their own subordinates.
I think we’ve all met these ones. Tories love charity because it does the work that the state SHOULD be doing whilst paying the CEO and management of said charity an eye-watering amount. The sector is an economy all of its own and built on the plight of others.
Didn’t Labour spend billions on an illegal war in Iraq, murdering our troops and civilians in the process??? Have the weapons of mass destruction been found yet? Did Labour show “compassion” for our troops and the civilians murdered by the Labour Party and their supporters???
To the lady who said that it's not about tactics, it's about strategy. Well, while strategy is the action plan that takes you where you want to go, the tactics are the individual steps and actions that will get you there.
It takes more than charisma; yep to be a top tory you have to be a crook; someone without any compassion for others and who willingly sells out their country for their party and their own private profit.
That seems like a brilliant starting point. You can’t change where you start from. To be considering why you’re there rather than just forging dogma around it is all you can ask of a human being.
It's not a petit boutgeoisie. They're the poor billionaires. They're full-on billionaires that just happen to not have that much money. But it's a state. Their break is coming soon.
I’d wager he’s used cash in hand builders to do work on one of his houses and taken advantage of the cheaper rates they can afford to charge through tax evasion.
Kemi banging on about some 'cultures being more valid' than others... conveniently leaves out any mention those who criminalise LGBTQ+ people....also driven by extreme religious dogma
“How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the 20th century.” ― Aneurin Bevan
Are Labour MP’s not people of enormous privilege too? Rayner is a long throw away from her ‘humble upbringing’ - she is trying to pull the ladder up behind her with the right to buy pulling.
I'm an American, and these "benefits scrounger" talking points are making me roll my eyes. It sounds exactly like people who fall on the "welfare queen" trope. These people don't realize that the identity of Tories (and Republicans here) is rich, hateful, old people who care about profit above all else.
Glad you found a way to cover this despite being locked out. The Tories always bring that "rich drunk aunt falling into the buffet at the wedding" energy. Always fun.
Bow tie guy has a real handle on benefit scroungers but not tax evasion. Omg . How are the prisons and police numbers doing from the party of lawr and orde 😅
To be expected, the wealthy and big business playing the system is fine but the ones who need the money and would spend it in the economy rather than horde is not 😡
Excellent work Owen. I do love your visits to the Tory conferences. A shame some of the characters we see at the Labour ones these days are interchangeable with this lot. 🙏🚩✊
Awesome thanks. Brilliant content. They super rich they middle class professionals English people Tory supporters Thomas. Actually Conservative conference in England yes.
Owen Jones outside Tory conference. The Tory in the bow tie was saying a Tory is someone who looks down on other people. The sort of people who look through or talk at you.
'As a woman with no children i would like to speak on womens bahalf and say we dont need maternity. It stops us from working" Talk about paying a couple months tax so a citizen that that will give at least 50 years of economic output and say its bad for the economy and tax system, how about you get rid of all expenses for MP's and cut their pay 🤷🏻♂️
Tories keep saying we should have been more 'low tax'. They had the tax regime which was the bare minimum to keep the country 'running'. The point is that the rich should pay more ... but they won't agree.
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Owen, aways great to see you taking the fight to the Tory CONference muppets! Thanks. Let us not forget that those who appointed Truss will be appointing the next Tory leader, using the same insightful ignorance! It's political malfunction, live!
Its funny and sad to see some of the people interviewed being sooo deluded... Like the guy talking about Liz Truss... Which world are these people living in?
They seemed more friendly toward you than the Labour conference.
The labour party is a toxic cesspit unfortunately
Yeah because they're not in power atm lol. They kind of have to be.
tho labour at least let him in
Nobody hates lefists more than the Labour Right.
The Lieber Party don’t like Owen
13:33 "it's not anecdotal, it's my own experiences"
Yeah mate, that's literally anecdotal evidence 😂
Probably thinks that a single 1st hand experience is automatically a common experience amongst many or are desperate to make it so to make themselves feel more normal and 'in touch' rather than being in the bubble and just a fragment of society that gets to be privileged unlike 90% of the population does.
Anecdotal like 'lived experience'
crazy how he doesn't know any statistics yet is politically active
Liz Truss saying the Conservatives would be elected if she was the leader is completely INSANE
She lives in a make believe world conjured up in her own head.
Lettuce Liz is the reason why tories lost.
Exactly, how could she possibly think that when she couldn't even keep her own seat?
One of the most egocentric and delusional people to ever enter mainstream politics in this country. One of the very few things the tories ever got right during their time in power is getting rid of her as prime minster so quickly
I agree she truly is useless
"you've asked me that because I'm a woman"... "As a woman I believe that..."
She was so passive aggressive..
Trouble is workers have rights, if they had no rights lots more would be in work, roll of serfdom.
@@matthewn1805I think I get it
@@ru76224 Also had unusally long thumbs.
Glad someone else picked up on that.
the kid 6 minutes in genuinely looks like he has no idea why he’s a tory, like he just rolled out of bed and into a nice clean ironed shirt and trousers and ended up at their conference, incapable of not stumbling into his own pained half mumbled critiques of neoliberalism.. he needs a splash of cold water on his face, a hug, a mars bar, and a new group of friends bless him
Yeah I got the feeling he's just grown up in a Tory family and isn't very invested himself and only follows it because it's all he knows.
@@firepit1432a bit like 99.9% of people do the irony
@@firepit1432 I was thinking the exact same.
No clue 😂
Mars bar 😂
The young guy at around 5 minutes with his GCSE Politics knowledge 😂
He probably knows more than the potential leaders then!
His knowledge is quite something despite his young age.
I think you're being little generous 😂
Just funny to see him almost connect the dots. "How many consultants do we need"? But also he's a neoliberal, or at least supports neoliberal parties? Vv odd
He's actually giving things a thought, instead of most small-c conservatives around the world who just parrot narratives and cliches. I don't know what he's doing in that party.
Spot on that a Tory said people voted for something different and got exactly the same 😂
😂
looks like the torys have to become better liars😂
I despise the very existence of Tories. They're the absolute scourge of society.
I despise the very existence of Tories. They're the absolute scourge of society.
I despise the very existence of Tories. They're the absolute scourge of society.
I miss Corbyn so much. Either Party are now horrid.
Unfortunately America will not be pleased if Jeremy corbyn runs
Eto
I meant to say me to
Same. For a brief moment, while Corbyn was in charge of the Labour Party, I felt some hope; some postivity, enthusiasm, and engagement with politics. Having once felt that, I now know it is possible to feel that way (who knew?) and I'd like some more of that.
Corbyn was unelectable.
"We're more charitable"
What about benefits
"WE DON'T LIKE POOR PEOPLE!!!" 😆💀
(Most) charity is just an example of failure of the apparatus of the state, in properly protecting it's most vulnerable citizens. The mark of a successful and effective society is how it looks after those at the lowest rungs; unable to look after themselves; regardless of whether that's temporarily, or not.
Efficient, and effective taxation should be sufficient to provide for the most essential needs of the most vulnerable.
Instead, charities provide for the most frivolous of needs, of the least deserving. A cushy, 6 figure directorship, to captain a workforce comprised of unpaid volunteers, and underpaid support staff, here... Lucrative tax write-offs, prestigious galas events and networking opportunities there... Plus, whilst the champagne flows, the shams pose; pain of others massage their egos... All just placebos, that conceals stables of high horses; on which they deludely gallop & gallivant through fields of philanthropic fame; masked raid by highway rob us, blind cloak pockets lined; barely hide misanthropic disdain...
Yes he sort of contradicted himself by saying " alot of people involved in charity are Conservatives " and then went onto describe others as ' scroungers'.
@@JimmyDreadNDMSSounds like a John Cooper Clarke poem. If you write this from scratch then you should look for a literary agent.
It's that old question - who is more charitable - the millionaire who can give 10k and not notice It's gone, or someone giving the £10 they can barely afford, to someone who needs it even more than they do?
@markwelch3564 But the millionaire said they gave 10k but they put it into a trust they owned. Claimed back expenses and got a tax reclaim from it
"The electorate didn't get a chance to vote on Liz Truss"; er.......they did. She lost her seat.
"it's not anecdotal, it's just my personal experience"...
Wtf does this guy think "anecdotal" means?!
Anecdotal means relying on other people's experience.
@@rothwellaudio not necessarily. If I tell you about something that happened to me last Wednesday, that's an anecdote. If I tell you that last Wednesday I was robbed, and that the thief happened to be foreign, and then I extrapolate from there that all foreigners are thieves, then I'm relying on anecdotal evidence to make my point. And it's a logical fallacy.
@@rothwellaudiosuggest you look in a dictionary pal
@@bigman7933 A judgement based on one's own experience isn't anecdotal, and I have no interest in being your pal. Find some other mug for that arduous task.
Salty 🤣😭@@rothwellaudio
"Why did they lose?"
Running the whole country into the ground might have had something to do with it.
Covid and lockdowns, as supported by all parties, crashing the economy, has a lot to do with the decline.
14 years of incompetence may have something to do with it.
Sure he (i.e. Mr 5:00) still has a lot to learn about economics but a bit harsh to presume that all of his 14 years have been that bad 😂
Not to mention the graft and corruption......!
More malevolence, really.
Fab to see Labour become so low in the polls in less than 3 months 😂
The line between people at the LP conference & these clowns is getting extremely blurry
It’s also cold and miserable inside the conference.
@Owen Jones Thank you for holding these people to account as our mainstream media doesn't.
Typical Tory = Workers have too many rights
And yet you'll find she may be a high earner, but still a worker nonetheless 😂
You're a legend, Owen! Keep up the great work, bro!
11:43 I've worked for charities for my entire career so far, and his assertion that you’ll find more Tories in charitable organisations than other groups doesn’t hold true at all.
But in so far as Tories do like charity, I think that has something to do with charities filling the void left by public services. Tories like charities filling that gap because they feel it justifies/mitigates the stripping away of public funding.
it would be a Better democracy if Mps were held Accountable for their broken promises
Well said
How true we are sold a pup every time.
I would add whoever is made PM should be someone who isn't a multi millionaire
Taking cash on the quiet. Do you mean like Kwasi Kwarteng ( £10 k per day), Matt Hancock (£6k per day) and the ex Blackpool mp - Scott Benton(?)
lol i love the polite british rudeness "it was actually lovely talking to you have fun talking to other people" (now F off) 😃😃
Yes, there is a lot about British behaviour traits that is insincere, dishonest, derogatory and aggressive all under the guise of being 'polite'. I find it an indicator of untrustworthiness.
@@desmondrathbone435 They are snide.
Keep going Owen. Thanks a million for your energy and incitefulness. Yes, you're dead right the real UK socialists need to 'get their act together' asap. Big hug. X
Kwangozitation? That's PRIVATIZATION, son.
As the right are forced into consensus around the fact that privatisation has failed, they will either blame it on Blair (attempted) or invent a distancing terminology to describe the same thing.
Privatise and deregulate: the Tory modus operandi
Absolutely astonished by the young guy who hasn't quite realised that he's making arguments for socialism yet
Working in charities, I've met those Tories. They're not compassionate to society and solely care for their own rugged individualism. Not even their own subordinates.
I can imagine. They think going to a soup kitchen to feed the poor makes up for the complicity in making those people poor in the first place.
I think we’ve all met these ones. Tories love charity because it does the work that the state SHOULD be doing whilst paying the CEO and management of said charity an eye-watering amount. The sector is an economy all of its own and built on the plight of others.
Didn’t Labour spend billions on an illegal war in Iraq, murdering our troops and civilians in the process??? Have the weapons of mass destruction been found yet? Did Labour show “compassion” for our troops and the civilians murdered by the Labour Party and their supporters???
Omg!😂I've NEVER loved Owen more!😂brilliant
may you always be forever blessed!
"As a worker, it's very important that you don't have rights" - eh?
That woman was insane.
Bonkers.
To the lady who said that it's not about tactics, it's about strategy. Well, while strategy is the action plan that takes you where you want to go, the tactics are the individual steps and actions that will get you there.
Yes, Kemi, let the corporations run the country. Like Argentina. How's that going?
Yup. A huge drop in living standards, it’s an absolute disaster.
Funny how that's not making the news isn't it? We can't be seeing the result of batshit hard right demagoguery, it might put us off.
No thanks
Already a reality unfortunately.
Hearing Liz Truss still praising Milei was just wild
It takes more than charisma; yep to be a top tory you have to be a crook; someone without any compassion for others and who willingly sells out their country for their party and their own private profit.
Excellent as usual Mr Jones. Thank you.
Its not anecdotal its my personal account ... So you mean anecdotal then? 🤔
Exactly, so full of himself he really really can't see it. Maybe if he watches this...
Give him an extra 5 minutes he'll be talking about his non-anecdotal experience of Haitians with dogs.
Funny how he started avoiding the topic when Owen push back with statistics🤣
Owens Jones at a Tory conference is something not to be missed.
That kid doesn’t know why he’s a Tory.
That seems like a brilliant starting point. You can’t change where you start from. To be considering why you’re there rather than just forging dogma around it is all you can ask of a human being.
his parents' views?
1:15 what a beautiful lad... wish Owen gave him a big kiss and more
Is it me or do they all seem a bit delusional?
No matter how bad Labour seem, this lot are even worse!
The woman who said people voted for change and now they have ended up with a government who are very similar was spot on
Even if she is a Tory
We should have installed Corbyn by any means necessary, elections be damned. This situation was inevitable otherwise.
"Its not anecdotal, its my own experience". Doh!
This is genuinely really interesting, especially from a journalistic perspective.
Bow tie guy complaining about small traders claiming benefits. I'd wager those small traders vote conservative. Classic petite bourgeoisie.
It's not a petit boutgeoisie. They're the poor billionaires. They're full-on billionaires that just happen to not have that much money. But it's a state. Their break is coming soon.
Plenty of big employers reliant on benefits supporting their employees low wages.
Working tax credits.
The Tories dodging taxes is the same thing.
I’d wager he’s used cash in hand builders to do work on one of his houses and taken advantage of the cheaper rates they can afford to charge through tax evasion.
Kemi banging on about some 'cultures being more valid' than others... conveniently leaves out any mention those who criminalise LGBTQ+ people....also driven by extreme religious dogma
They have not learned anything!
Not one word on foreign policy. Israel, Palestine, Ukraine.
"I believe that as workers we shouldn't have rights " that's like turkeys voting for christmas😂
Is that woman in the pink okay? She seems like she's on the verge of a breakdown.
It was a strategy to not answer questions properly not tactics... because as we know those aren't the same things 😂😂😂😂
pulsing with pink anger!!
she did give of the vibe of needing a brown paper bag to breathe into yes,....
@@nathanielgrant3909lmao 😂
They lost because they were corrupt.
Thieves, bandits and plunderers of the public purse !!!
And dishonest. And incompetent. And selfish and cruel
Are you all talking about Labour?
I am sorry! Just how the f..k do Champagne Socialist, lead by Kier Starver, differ from their fellow Tory Arseholes?!
“How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the 20th century.” ― Aneurin Bevan
You can hear him saying it in is accent.🤩
And now the Labour Party, also
Are Labour MP’s not people of enormous privilege too? Rayner is a long throw away from her ‘humble upbringing’ - she is trying to pull the ladder up behind her with the right to buy pulling.
I'm an American, and these "benefits scrounger" talking points are making me roll my eyes. It sounds exactly like people who fall on the "welfare queen" trope. These people don't realize that the identity of Tories (and Republicans here) is rich, hateful, old people who care about profit above all else.
Yeah. They always tack on this thing at the end where they “therefore create jobs and prosperity”, which is clearly their real aim, isn’t it?
@@markym5002It’s all about ‘shareholder value’, which equates to destroying everything for a quick buck
both are from the Reagan/Thatcher era.
theres a reason those two leaders are worshiped in their respective countries
Please don't forget rich, hateful young people (Tories) as demonstrated in this video.
What a stereotype "rich hateful old people" way to pack so many prejudices into one sentence lol
Tory "i dont think workers should have rights"
Who TF are these people 😂😂😂
Tory supporting business owners! (Not all business owners)
Dear me, two Tory conferences in as many weeks. The little red Tory-boy must be bored if he goes to the blue Tory one as well.
Spot on again Owen
Horrible people don't want the poor to have the same benefits as themselves.
I like Owen and I was a bit dismayed when he started knocking Labour.
Turns out he was right.
When did the penny drop, out of interest, Colin?
Corbyn never said anything untrue about Israel.
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Boy he sure does
It's amazing, no one thought that 12 years of austerity, Brexit, and the Covid Crisis had anything to do with the Tory's demise.
Great work as always Owen.
The hard cut between bow-tie man and the hybrid creature known as George Ozzy Osbourne was an immaculate editorial choice
Thanks
Glad you found a way to cover this despite being locked out. The Tories always bring that "rich drunk aunt falling into the buffet at the wedding" energy. Always fun.
great work again, owen!
At least we’ve found our next Mental Gymnastics Olympic squad.
Yas, look forward to this every year
Bow tie guy has a real handle on benefit scroungers but not tax evasion. Omg . How are the prisons and police numbers doing from the party of lawr and orde 😅
To be expected, the wealthy and big business playing the system is fine but the ones who need the money and would spend it in the economy rather than horde is not 😡
"What did we do wrong? we wasn't far right enough" lol
Excellent work Owen. I do love your visits to the Tory conferences. A shame some of the characters we see at the Labour ones these days are interchangeable with this lot. 🙏🚩✊
Love your Party Conference films. Congrats on your nuptuals
Love getting information on British politics!
Oh dear Kemi Bad Enoch. The burden of regulation is too high? Tell that to those hurt, affected and bereaved by Grenfell.
The facts show that she completely wrong.
Owen you really are brave soul
The Tory party conference reminds of the unedifying metaphor of a dog eating its own vomit
What is it about ‘the party faithful’ that ensures a complete inability for self-reflection?
That woman thinks she knows what she is talking about and yet is completely uninformed lol
If Kemi Badenoch thinks that government is a bad thing, why does she (and the others) want to be in government?!
“It is not anecdotal, it is my experience” 🤦♂️😆
"It's not anecdotal, it's my own experiences."
Facepalmed so hard my head left my shoulders and is now passing the International Space Station.
It's so depressing to think about the seesaw of labour and tories for the rest of my life.
Or the alternative: a nosedive into reform
@@denisethemenace more like both when Farage joins the Tories to become leader
Owen Jones❤.
"more generous, and more caring." THAT'S the right idea!
Go on our Owen 💪🏼
You legend 🪴
Sending lots of money to Ukraine and Israel
Badenoch and Jenrick, that’s like having having an alcoholic run a pub!
Awesome thanks. Brilliant content. They super rich they middle class professionals English people Tory supporters Thomas. Actually Conservative conference in England yes.
They wouldn't let you in! Quelle surprise!!!
I'd have stood there pointing and laughing until i passed out.
Owen Jones outside Tory conference. The Tory in the bow tie was saying a Tory is someone who looks down on other people. The sort of people who look through or talk at you.
'As a woman with no children i would like to speak on womens bahalf and say we dont need maternity. It stops us from working"
Talk about paying a couple months tax so a citizen that that will give at least 50 years of economic output and say its bad for the economy and tax system, how about you get rid of all expenses for MP's and cut their pay 🤷🏻♂️
Party of family values.
Tories keep saying we should have been more 'low tax'. They had the tax regime which was the bare minimum to keep the country 'running'. The point is that the rich should pay more ... but they won't agree.
Oh gutted , 😂 glad you still there tho man , I absolutely couldn't stomach it .
12:20 people like those born into unearned wealth and the monarchy for example? Or is he just talking about the plebs?
A thriving middle East would lead to thriving west. Instead peace means poverty to these warmongers.
They all look puffed up and self satisfied after their south of France holidays etc...
Dear Owen and everyone love Colin
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Owen, aways great to see you taking the fight to the Tory CONference muppets! Thanks. Let us not forget that those who appointed Truss will be appointing the next Tory leader, using the same insightful ignorance! It's political malfunction, live!
Owen:"How can you regain the Public's trust?"
Tories:"We left the EU,and now we should leave the Planet"
Just adore you Owen!!! 😂 🇬🇧🇵🇸 X
I don't get scared too much, but "young Tories" do really scare me.
Not letting you in? That's like kicking a puppy. Mind you, they prolly do that for fun too!
The conference of denial.
Its funny and sad to see some of the people interviewed being sooo deluded... Like the guy talking about Liz Truss... Which world are these people living in?