Why Pink Floyd's Roger Waters was disappointed when he met John Lennon?
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Why Pink Floyd's Roger Waters was disappointed when he met John Lennon?
Former Pink Floyd bassist and singer Roger Waters Speaks on John Lennon Regret, Says Beatles Icon Acted 'Quite Snotty When They Met.
Did You Know: Pink Floyd’s Piper & Beatles’ Sgt Pepper’s Were Recorded in the Same Studio at the Same Time
Roger Waters:
I think John Lennon’s first solo album will always be in my top five. Neil Young is a big favorite of mine. His performance in that film was stunning. I think a great singer-songwriter is the best part of the musical spectrum. I was watching the last waltz because I’ll be filming. I was struck by the rawness of The Band’s Big Pink.
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Both Lennon and Waters were the most acerbic and moody members of their respective bands, so it's no wonder they didn't get along. Either way, they were both geniuses, and you can see some influence of Lennon on Roger's lyrics.
Yeah, let's not forget that Pink Floyd weren't famous at this stage. Wonder whether Lennon followed the group in the 70s, as they reached mega fame? Wonder if he even remembered any meeting ?
they were both ego maniacs who werent very nice people.
Waters is a journeyman
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The irony is that Paul M and David Gilmour became close friends. The Beatles were known for not liking outsiders in their working environment.
I desagree. Actually they were very open worinkg with others. Examples there are many, just listen the songs and see the photos of them with company.
That is a good parallel. Paul and David are the friendly ones, so it makes sense they became friends, but John and Roger were the jerks (I love them both, but they can sometimes be jerks) so it is funny that they clashed. I think if they powered through some initial awkward encounters, then they would have gotten along eventually. They were all musical geniuses.
I don't agree, they would regularly invite friends into the studio and their circle.
David Crosby from CS and N, the stones, the monkees, Donovan, clapton, Billy Preston to name a few
@@petef7323 exactly, they played with clapton, roy orbison, some of the rolling stones, billy preston, etc. They had to. Coz, in part, their creativity and economic success depended on exploring the world, hanging out with people, getting to know them and so on.
They did not allow themselves to be close off with the world.
@@petef7323 When THEY invited somebody is another matter and it wasn't as frequent as you think. Billy Preston and Clapton were the only times they collaborated with an outside musician (not counting orchestras) Pink Floyd were not friends with the Beatles and were given the Beatle freeze out. None of the band would dare bring a non-musician personal friend to the studio. They didn't even like when Brian Epstein would pop in. That's why the other three had such a hard time with Yoko's presence during the white album.
Well, I wouldn't blame the Fab at all. After all, they were at work, they were on the clock and fully absorbed in the process. This was no socializing time. Besides, who were the Pink Floyd in those days? Their golden time was still yet to come.
Totally agree! The Floyd should have counted themselves privileged that The Beatles even gave them the time of day. lol
Concur.Monsieur Gilmour just waiting in the wings for the real Floyd ascension to glory.
In 1967 the beatles were on top of the world and pink floyd was a little known underground band. They were worlds apart at that time.
Pink never went worldwide, they aren't known EVERYWHERE, They had one hit, well thats all I remember so perception is reality
@@samsung-ok4ki - I like both bands but am a much bigger fan of The Beatles, who I basically worship but the other comment is correct. Pink Floyd are one of the most popular and best-known bands in history. "Darkside of the Moon" is in the top ten selling albums of all time.
@@samsung-ok4ki Are you on drugs or were you on drugs. Pink Floyd had one hit and were unknown? 😂 That's actually comical. And today more guitarists are influenced by David Gilmour than the Beatles or Floyd's Roger Waters. The Beatles may be a household name but no more than Jimi Hendrix or Pink Floyd. Roger was and is to this day a nutjob and Pink Floyd was glad to see him part.
@@HooksBill No so if you are in an elevator in Taiwan, they can tell you right away when its a Beatles or Elvis song, Pink Floyd they never heard of, they had a good run but short
@@samsung-ok4ki Short? They made music for almost 50 years......
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At first I thought it was the typical Indian accented robot but I think you’re right. It’s more “Meh-he-can”. It sounds a lot like the fake voice True Lies character Harry Tasker recorded on the mini tape machine just before his wife Helen danced at the command of the voice on the tape. This episode and site gets a thumbs down from me since this creator has that disgusting robot voice.
"Which one's Pink?" - John Lennon.
It...is ...so...wonderful...to..have..a ...computer...narrate... John and Roger in the same room and it went bad? What a surprise.
It's a miracle when Roger is the in the same room with anyone and it gies good. Not to mention John had fair share of problems with a lot of people he worked with anyway 🤣
It sounds like a bad Captain Kirk impression.
yeahh when there’s two people with a dry and sarcastic sense of humor they tend to clash. there can be only 1
@@mr.dr.prof.patrick7284 not to mention when one is so full of himself he thought he should be recognized by the biggest band in the world at the time when his band had hardly done anything yet 🤣 of course the Beatles ignored them they had charts to top 🤣 plus this was their period of experimenting and writing fuller songs AND depending on what time of year, their manager may have already died
As a somewhat “Acerbic” person myself, my encounters with people like that often start not so well. But, once guards are let down they can turn out to be your best buddies.
Now imagine if you’re working on intensely private work and some cats just come in. I’ve seen this first hand and most don’t like it. Most artists don’t want uninvited people in the studio.
@@mumbles215 especially ones they don’t really know.
I have no idea what this was about, but Lennon was the sort who butted heads with people just to size them up. Not one of his better traits. But to get in his good graces you had to stand up to him.
@@mumbles215 tell that to yoko 😆
Congrats on being an acrobat.
Pretty boring .silly voice and keeps repeating itself🙄
I wish RUclipsr's would stop using robot voices for their videos.
Especially robots with thick Mediterranean accents.
Amen. If your voice sucks, just get a friend to record it. It's not rocket-science.
What.do.you.mean.human? We.are.just.like.you.
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Pink Floyd were actually mentioned in the 1968 Hunter Davis biography of The Beatles. It's mentioned that they stopped into the studio. This was probably not a very formal introduction and The Beatles probably just thought they were just another group of the many they probably met. This may have been a huge deal for Pink Floyd but not one for the fab four.
Yeah I Know...
And They Weren't "PINK FLOYD" Yet...
So It's Not Like John Blew Them Off
Right After They Made 'Dark Side Of The Moon'
@@madpeace1764 They couldn't make dark side of the moon till The Beatles made Pepper then the White Album. That's where Floyd got many ideas. Musical and lyrical themes.
And without Pet Sounds, the Beatles couldn’t have made those albums.
@@JFK-ir7yz Pet Sounds was a masterpiece!
@@JFK-ir7yz @JFK35 517 Sure they could have. Brian is a one trick pony especially lyrically, no depth. Great melodies? Sure, God Only Knows for one. Now imagine Wilson writing something like Tomorrow Never Knows, Blackbird, Helter Skelter, Across the Universe.....LOL...yeah, The Beatles needed Brian Wilson...sure thing. That is pop culture mythology reinforced by McCartney's faux modesty.
Just saw this title. WHO FOOKIN’ CARES? !
They can go and be disappointed all they want, McCartney has been on record as saying Dark Side of the Moon is one of his favorite albums
See that. They should do some research before they go and open up their mouths about The Beatles.
Paul and Linda were meant to be on Dark Side, they recorded spoken word pieces but were left off because they were too recognisable amongst the other voices so it was distracting
The video is not talking about Pink Floyd being dissaponted, Roger specifically did not like his meeting with Lennon. They are too similar to like each other.
@@garychambers5850 are you really trying to police what he can and can't say about a band and person you've never met
Venus and Mars seems to show this influence.
Those 2 albums were made in the same year 1967 but the music was t0taly different
I lean towards Sgt it was and still ls one of the best albums ever made
Not a "Pink Floyd" fan. I have no clue as to what they recorded at Abbey Road. I do like some of their songs. They are a great band. 🌟🎸
Right after The Beatles finished in Studio 2, The Zombies recorded much of their classic album Odessey and Oracle in the same studio using the same sound engineer Geoff Emerick and some of The Beatles' instruments including Lennon's mellotron and an electric harpsichord. Pepper, Piper, & Oddessey, all classics -- what was in the water at Abbey Road Studio that summer?
and Piper is far superior to Dark Side.
@@eugenedevere7687 We may be in the minority, but I agree.
One sad takeaway from all this is the realization that the Beatles were friends and truly loved / cared for each other ( even though they could have some wicked fights ), and Pink Floyd weren’t. As a Pink Floyd fan that’s kind of difficult to hear, but the fact is that right now you have two old men who don’t seem to give a damn about each other, and another doing his own thing. I believe Gilmour has said that he didn’t have any friends in the band - more of a working relationship.
I'm a HUGE Floyd fan and a (practicing) musician/guitarist. Dave is probably my favorite guitarist of all time and a significant influence on me as a musician. But I've seen a lot (many, many) of his interviews and I don't think he and I would be friends if I were a peer in his circle. I think he can be (frequently) cold and impersonal. I suspect Rick or Nick may say they were friends; it's Dave who limits things. That...and as much as I love Dave as a guitarist, and a part of Floyd, the answer to "by the way, which one's Pink?", is undoubtedly Roger Waters. Not the same vibe without Roger...not even close.
David and Rick were true friends the whole time. Nick and Roger could get along.
Funny. I've always got the impression Roger was the odd one out. It seems to me he was eccentric and emotionally insecure. With little social antenna's. One may say John Lennon was likewise, but he could also be charming at times.
@@entropy_sci After the bullshit Dave and the other members of the band copped after Waters spat the dummy and threw his toys out of the cot, it left a mark on those other members. Fook Waters and his self entitled persona. Dave still has a good repertoire with Nick Mason, so it's all good with those two.
There are of course other elements to the band's relationships, but that is for another time.
@@entropy_sci I did not get that impression of Gilmour at all, he got along very well with Rick, especially later and Nick too. He also got along very well with Roger UNTIL after Dark Side....then the MASSIVE egos kicked in, especially Roger who now fancied himself far more important than just merely a rock star. At this age, with not too many years left, I don't blame Gilmour one single bit in surrounding himself with those people he wants to be around and doing the type of music he wants to. I also don't blame him for not wanting to be around Roger, he is a very difficult person, by most accounts, and seems angry and disaffected most of the time. Watch the films behind the scenes of his last 2 tours, Gilmour is very happy, very outgoing, and surrounded by many friends and family where as Roger seems to take himself far more seriously.
Nicely speaking of John Lennon and Roger Waters 💚. They were very similar, if not identical, in their EGO's !!! GOD blessed both of them with a tremendous TALENT !!! Jerry.🗽
That is typical John. We love him anyway.
As if John Lennon would be impressed by meeting an unknown band like Pink Floyd.
That's why he probabaly had the attitude. He had no idea who these guys were. And who knows how long *The Beatles* were recording
in the Studio, They could've been their all day. They were probabaly in no mood to entertain... Hey later on Paul (McCartney) became really good
friends with *David Gilmour* ..Paul McCartney and David Gilmour, however, must have struck up a friendship. They saw a *Led Zeppelin* concert together They would not just stay in touch. Macca invited Gilmour to particulate in his projects several times. They played on each others records. David played with Paul at the "Cavern" club. Recorded lead
guitar on Paul's hit ' _No More Lonely Nights"_
@@garychambers5850 Fast forward a few years when Floyd were back at Abbey Road Recording DSOTM, I think Lennon would have been impressed.
John actually went and saw PF live in 1967. Not sure Roger was aware of that. And of course, we all know what an asshole Roger can be.
@@KeithSpinneyMusic Isn't that on film? The great technicolour dream or something at the Alexandra Palace? Both PF and JL are on that, so Roger probably did know..... and yes.
I forget which show it was back in the day--I think it was Johnny Carson--John Lennon recommended Pink Floyd to the audience as a band whom he thought was doing interesting stuff.
I mean what were they supposed to do, stop the session and have some tea and crackers? The fact that they got close enough to have an interaction as an unknown band and even got to sit in on a session seems like proof to me that The Beatles were somewhat down to Earth.
seems like you certainly have your mind made up based on absolutely zero facts... nothing like cognitive bias to lead your life there Marco
Lennon had a super dry sense of humor. I think many misunderstood his humor for being snooty. I thought he was hysterically funny but very very dry!!
I wouldn't have thought they would have had much in common. The Beatles were slumming around rough clubs in Liverpool and Hamburg when they were teenagers, they're basically scallies made good. Whereas Pink Floyd always came across as very middle-class, brought up in big houses with gardeners and attending independent schools.
David Gilmour and Paul McCartney have worked together quite well. The Beatles didn't know The Floyd from Adam and Waters and Lennon were not the friendliest of people.
Both Waters and Lennon are my heroes. It doesn’t matter if they didn’t get along. They both contributed a lot to the music industry.
Stelly dan,such a great band,they are genious!!!👍
Fagen especially,a great artist,singer and keyboard player.👍
Dude, they didn't get with their own bandmates... Still, really cool that we had them.
true. they were both really smart writers
i respect them as musicians but both were/are complete POS as people. RW still defends all bloody dictatorships in the world and lennon beated all his GFs and was a major c...nt as well as RW
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When i see a star i pretend to not know who they are and go about my business.
The person who I would go out of my way to meet has not yet been born. I have friends who stood in line to meet and greet Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson. I went to the car and waited for them to get done. I enjoy their music and I understand they were nice dudes but I don't want to meet them any more than they want to meet me. I'd feel the same if it was a world leader , philosopher , artist or performer.
If it's a modern star, I probably DON'T know who they are. LL Cool J came into a store I worked at back in the '90s. I didn't know who he was and just went on with my work.
Early Pink Floyd's off the wall 🧱 music didn't inspired The BEATLES ! In other hand The BEATLES inspired Pink Floyd, to become one of the best and monumental band in the history of Rock music ! All credits go to The BEATLES, for producing so many great BANDS !!! 👍🇺🇸*Jerry.🗽
The Beatles......and everyone else lag way behind.
@@elizajohn5 Hi, very true my friend !!! Thank you !!! 💚🥣🍺👍🇺🇸* Jerry.🗽
@@elizajohn5The Beatles in my opinion, are very overrated. Shine On You Crazy Diamond alone destroys most of their songs. Don’t get me wrong, I like them, but when people say they’re the best band of all time, I don’t see that at all. Are they the most iconic, probably, but the best? Nah.
Well, that was a huge waste of time.
I ran into Peter Jenner at a Billy Bragg concert (I think around 1990-1991), I had no idea who I was talking to at first, he was talking a lot about Syd and Floyd’s early days. We talked for quite awhile, I was a little taken aback when he told me who he was…he told me about bits and pieces of the recording of Piper and how the Beatles were right next door at Abbey Road and that they were very interested in Syd and how creative he was, and peaked in from time to time while the Floyd were recording.
I always watched Peter Jennings do the news as a kid.
The truly sad thing to me is that at the time just a couple years before Lennon’ murder, he seemed to be really changing and becoming less abrasive and more of a family man and sweet man. I’ve always been more of a McCartney guy but to this day the murder of Lennon is still such a tragedy on so many levels.
Absolutely! He was re-emerging after years away, there was a whole new audience eager to see him and it would’ve been great to see his take on the music scene
I think that's right. He was taking more responsibility for the media fueled feud, and very honest and introspective. I think we missed a lot on what he had to say.
Absolutely. He seemed to be really working hard on himself and becoming the man he probably always wanted to be. He is the one celebrity who does not cease to fascinate me.
Over a decade isn’t a couple of years
Who ?
It's only natural to have competitive attitudes towards each other. With the Beatles' enormous success, and meeting them in studio while creating another hit album with fresh ideas. Then "the pink floyd" walks in. Their songs are not about "love". Their first hit single Arnold Layne is about a clothesline thief. On the evening of 21 March 1967 They were brought together in Abbey Road and exchanged hellos. And paul and john went to see them at the Music & Art event, listening to "Interstellar Overdrive". So they were all very aware of each other and their talents. Lennon was a very down to earth guy, and Waters is a show off sort. There is a place for all, and I like ALL of their albums!!!
I don’t if it was so much competitive attitude, I’ve worked in studios at the top level for many years and cats don’t want others cats coming into your session when not invited. Geoff Emerick talked about this meeting in his book It was all Norman Smith. He just brought them in. Those dudes were trying to work. Often times people don’t want others hearing unfinished work for many reasons. Plus Floyd were unknowns. Certainly they were like who the F are these people in our sessions. They were largely closed session. Emericks book is a great read.
@@mumbles215 I'm verifying that in three source books(that I have) the meeting did actually take place. I DO NOT support anyone's political views but my own. The "Get Back" footage we finally get to see, was only 24 months after the '67 meeting, we can see the atmosphere where all beatles plus outsiders are cramping their style. WE all have our right to OUR own opinions. My truth, I was 8 years old, seeing the Roof-top performance. And own Every Solo album plus Every studio album Of all four Beatles and all five Floyd's... My Truth...
No reason to be adversary man. I read a book by someone who was there at this meeting and that’s what he said. Also, there is no such thing as “my truth”. There is only ONE truth ever. Only and ever. This nonsense that everyone has their own truth is nonsense. Because the “truth” means FACTS and these facts don’t change from person to person. The truth is nobody will even know what the Beatles felt unless they were specifically asked about it (which I don’t think they ever were publicly) so it’s all speculation what they’ve felt about it. Human nature played out as it usually does in that situation. One I have personally witnessed with the famous artists I have worked with.
@@mumbles215 You're full of nothing but Bull Shit. You have no point except to show your ignorance, telling anyone else what to think or that they are not entitled to their own view OR TRUTH...THIS IS MY TRUTH..
Had it not been Floyd's *first* album then the meeting with the Beatles may have been different.
Why should The Beatles have been interested? The Beatles were tired of meeting new people and Pink Floyd were largely unknown and unproven in 1967. Having said that, love both The Beatles and Pink Floyd!
what robot narrates these videos? lol
pink floyd is a great band, but beatles will always be #1
Pink Floyd made Animals, the Beatles didn't. Spot of trouble.
Tell that to the led zeppelin fanbase.
@@wr7662 not only that but syd barret even made punk and so many other genres. If you know you know.
@@wr7662 better than pepper, revolver, white album? dont think so. gilmour himself said beatles are best lol
@@grahamjarman Gilmour was wrong.
The Beatles liked so much what PF were doing Over in the other studio Room,that they made and put a Song a lá The Piper at the Gates, on their Sgt Peppers album.
What song are you referring to? Only A Northern Sing was recorded for Pepper, but wasn't issued until Yellow Submarine.
@@MarkMikelVideos both Good Morning and Mr Kite have elements that i would associate with Barretts Floyd, and yes, northern Song as well.
Even Peter Greens Albatross Didnt escape later on. But the Beatles were an influence to almost everyone as well.
@@sun6moon9 it was the other way around, in syd barrett's autobiography it said he was always sneaking into studio 2 to listen to the Beatles.
The Beatles are unique and unreachable
The Stones are better.
Dark side of the moon, Animals and wish you were here are unapproachable by any band before or since.
@@ArmandoMPR not even close
@@richardlecomte6839 dark side , animals, and the wall....I can't say enough about how great they are....ive tried for decades to warm to wish you were here, but it just never makes me think anything other than it is completely overrated. I know every note etc....just never got what people love about it....with that being said, the 3 I mentioned are among my favorite classic rock albums ever....enlighten me please...what the hell have I been missing...I like Gilmours playing on shine on you crazy diamond...I like welcome to the machine...overall it just seems to be missing something
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Yeah, compared to the other two for sure.
I personally put Amused to death in the top 4 at least.
Waters makes several references to yoko oh-no in his albums.Also touches on Lennons themes such as his Mother, absent Father + anti war.☮ I would say Roger was influenced by John more than you think.
Very broad themes.
@@TheJayson8899 Like "The kid in the corner looked at the priest
And fingered his pale-blue Japanese guitar"(RW, amused to death.) refrencing julians negative experience of yoko. I have seen in print That after his fathers death:
Yoko took him to a room where all his fathers instrument's where, and said 'choose any one you want'. He choose a decorated blue japanese theme guitar.
which she replied, 'You can have any but that one'.
.."The bitch said something mystical"(RW, pro's & cons )
who know?
I think a more interesting meeting would’ve been if Lennon and Waters met while they were recording Dark Side of the Moon. I think Lennon would’ve been amazed at what the Floyd were doing.
One fact is that the Floyd’s engineer was Alan Parsons and he’d worked on the Abbey Road album as well
Funny you mentioned that I was thinking the same thing that if the Beatles heard Dark Side of the Moon
John Lennon said Dark side was a pretentious piece of wankery
Alan worked on the "Get Back" sessions as well.
@@twistedgamer9167 And he was right.
@@twistedgamer9167 Proof?
I'm sure when he met Lennon pink Floyd was NOT a HUGE act.... THEY grew very slowky
Big enough for the Beatles to go and watch them at the UFO club
@@doscwolny2221 Floyd did NOT have a gold album until 3 years AFTER the beatles broke up ..., BUT They did have a as long as the beatles were AROUND record of non success and member changes.....And , how the hell would You expect Lennon or Dylan or Elvis to HAVE BEEN TO HIM anyway
@@bobbybrooks4826 where did I say they had a gold standard album at that point. They were still a jam band. What I said is correct! And I never said they had anywhere near the instant success as the Beatles.
What is wrong with you myopic fanboys/girls.
In fact I rate the Beatles as the greatest followed by Floyd and then Zep.
Why is your idea of success based on big selling albums?
Eg , the velvet underground and love didn’t sell heaps but just like Floyd and the Beatles still revolutionary
@@doscwolny2221 if You know about the Beatles Then You know that John had a peculiar personality due to a bizarro dad and absent mother...Dealing with who he was as a solo act and just Dealing with his success was a Lot.. AND, with all that he was dead JUst 7 years after pink Floyd became a official member of the club with Their gold album. If he came off snotty obviously John didnt like his stuff or know HIS stuff because he wasnt a EVIL person or an asshole, just moré complex... AND,it's REALLY not good form to put down Your betters especially based on minor things
@@bobbybrooks4826 I’m sorry but just when exactly did I put down the Beatles. I talked facts, you talked emotions. Why?
At what point am I attacking the Beatles.
A 2 yr old James Hetfield met Lennon in Abbey Road....John ignored him....What a jerk!!!
Waters these days is nothing more than a crank with some pretty nasty views.
When was Roger Waters ever not disappointed
When he looks in the mirror I imagine.
@@mondoseguendo6113 wouldn't argue that..... Of course we never know lol
Mccartney was great and still is great. Lennon was better and still is.
Roger doesn't like too many people. If he likes you count yourself lucky.
I like his work but I couldn't care less if he or any other artist liked me.
@@Cincinnatus1869 it's self evident that he doesn't either lol
or maybe take a deep look at yourself lol.
Arnold Layne / Candy And A Currant Bun, SHOWED the brilliance Floyd were capable of.
I consider the Piper at the Gates of Dawn an absolute masterpiece. I met the Floyd when they were playing their best psychedelic music and they were nice. Check!
@@BTS4990 all of PF’s records are different, and PatGoD is an enigmatic and wild beginning to the greatest art rock band of all time
@@BTS4990 The same applies to DSOTM. There is only 1 good song on it Money. Wish You Were here is the real Deal.
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@@eugenedevere7687 Your is entitled to have a subjective opinion. But I am glad you were not in charge at the time. DSOTM is as an album nothing but a timeless masterpiece. It totally changed production standards. It was without competition the champion album of the 70ties and is still as actual. No latter album can be compared. That is not an opinion but a mere fact
STILL holds the record for being on the charts longer than any other album.@@taccamine8312
Pink Floyd were nothing until David Gilmour joined an wrote Dark Side Of The Moon & Wish You Were Here (and The Wall) ..and certainly nothing Floyd did pre-Gilmour is even remotely comparable with the Beatles
LoL sarcasm😉
I love Pink Floyd, but it just shows you the quality of the songwriting and musicianship of the Beatles and those around them... that Sgt. Pepper was being worked on at the same time as Piper. Sgt. Pepper is clearly superior in every way.
True but it does have a lot of crap on it.
Sgt Pepper's is a band at its peak, Piper is a debut album. You really can't compare. It would be like comparing Please Please Me with Dark Side of The Moon. I'll say tho, I think Piper is more psychedelic than Sgt Pepper's
@@MKMousanz Well yeah I definitely agree... bands go through a creative journey, and it's common for their juices to only really get flowing a few albums in. I didn't mean to make any comparisons, but I guess I did. Having said that... I usually prefer 60s/70s bands later output. For the Beatles, my fav albums are the White album and Abbey Road. For Pink Floyd, Animals and Wish You Were Here. :-) Cheers.
Mystery Tour is The Beatles really trippin out.@@MKMousanz
Working class lads from Liverpool or posh boys I know which I prefer. Pink Floyd are bs
John Lennon stopped and signed an autograph for the man who shot him. Roger Waters spat on the fans that bought a ticket to his concert.
And then John asked him if there was anything else he wanted
And John put Yoko on the mic for fans who bought tickets for his concert! 🙄
@@timheine5816 Pretty sure George wasn't the biggest fan of John. And Roger and Nick have always been close. A little DD on your part would make your arguments reliable. 😉
@@johnsimpson7776 Geez, someone's got a woody for Roger!!!!
@@johnsimpson7776 George wasn't the biggest fan of Paul either when you get right down to it George could out-snark John ruclips.net/video/JHzyFaiJM0M/видео.html
Who is Roger Waters…
What did he expect? They didn’t know him, and they had been mobbed by all of humanity for the previous 3 or 4 years at that point. They were probably like get this dude out of here so we can get back to work
Oh, the mumbling, heavy french accent REALLY helped here 🙄
It’s funny, as one gets older any semblance of ego diminishes into a more self effacing outlook. This obviously hasn’t happened to Waters, whose ego seems to continue to grow in his own sad mind. Never mind, he’s only a musician!
not anymore....he now politician and educator he explain and condemn how jews are killing innocent Palestinians over the land that they stole from the rightful owner
I’ll take him over fake John any day.
Waters is undoubtedly one of the best songwriters ever and the pink Floyd albums from echoes to the wall are unbelievable , but as a person he is a self deluded clown , on the wall tour he spat at a crowd member , and later describing this as the whole thing is false once you do stadium tours and become commercial, how things have changed ! And as for Lennon who matches waters in song writing , his band the Beatles changed music pink Floyd were part of music , Lennon had his beliefs same as waters has its a shame both great artists ended up their own arses
Is he a narcissist perhaps, albeit a greatly talented one?
@@soakedbearrd what does even fake John means 💀
Yeah well... at least Lennon didn't fucking lip sync.
Poor Roger. He caught John at a "bad time." LOL
that pesky ole LSD eh?
Apparently McCartney and Gilmour are friends. With the egos and attitude though, you could see how Watters and Lennon might not gel. I could see Harrison and Wright being pals, and Mason and Starr seem very much alike.
Lennon was frequently spotted at the UFO club in London where Pink Floyd were the 'house band' at the time. I don't think you can read anything into that meeting.
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I'm pretty sure John was like that most of the time, at least in the 1960s. That was just his personality. I don't think he meant to be rude or anything like that. The fact that Roger was also a bit like this didn't help either.
It was the fault of Norman Smith for bursting in with Pink Floyd in tow when the Beatles were not expecting the visit and were preoccupied with recording Rita. Plus they (Beatles) were not very comfortable with people they didnt know showing up at their recording sessions. Paul thought Floyd was a very interesting band, he was very aware of them and thought they would be ones to take 'progressive music" to new levels. Whereas the Beatles were done with the big production except for Walrus they really were down another alley with their next real album, White Album. Floyd, King Crimson, Yes and a few others would do very well with those types of albums in the future.The Beatles as a band never really went down further down the road with that unless you want to count John's avant garde stuff with yoko and Revolution 9 which was really just self indulgent of John. He should have kept it on his solo stuff with Yoko.
Where the hell do they get these narrator's from with their monotone speach thats unbearable to listen to geez if you dont have any better than this please leave this to people that know what they are doing i could barely listen to this while typing this comment i surely couldn't make it to the end.
1. The Beatles were musical geniuses and they were WORKING. Would you walk into Picasso's studio while he was painting and inspired and expect him to stop and chat with you? Everyone wanted to talk to The Beatles, if they kept stopping they would lose creative momentum and we wouldn't have Sgt Peppers.
2. Roger Waters is a prick. EVERYONE says he is a prick. He argues with everyone and no one can stand to work with him. I know people that have worked with him only for a few hours and they say he is a prick. I know someone whose husband was in a band with him for decades and she says he was absolutely impossible to work with or get along with.
I don't care who respects or appreciates whom. Completely irrelevant. Both bands made great and memorable music..
Sorry Roger Waters, I love Pink Floyd but you're not as talented as the Beatles.
You didn't create songs like they did.
Also what Roger Waters has to realize is his solo career campred to John Lennon's is so much different.
You can really tell a musician's talent after they go solo (what they can do ) and Roger Waters put out garbage John Lennon didn't. Also the way waters said "he didn't fancy any of them" ( The Beatles) he says it in a way that would describe a musician that has no talent( and believe me Roger Waters doesn't believe the Beatles have no talent ,he knows John Lennon is a genius.
Also none of those bands, Led Zeppelin The Beatles Pink Floyd ...they don't fancy each other they might have their own personal old musician they like from the twenties or whatever ,but no other rock band back than really pays attention to another band and fancy's them .
Also Roger waters could not sing like the Beatles or Lennon. Roger Waters couldn't sing after he went solo John Lennon could.
yeah true true, but you gotta admit, both bands were a "sum is greater than the parts" situation. John wrote some really great, but also some really garbage solo, Paul wrote numerous, entire albums that were garbage... George, had some junkers lol, but relatively speaking, fairly consistent. Gilmour and Rogers solo stuff though... almost all of it is a ahrd pass for me haha so I agree there. IN the Beatles, John and Paul were maybe the most consistent songwriters ever. I'm a massive, massive fan of both bands, but the Beatles solo careers weren't at all the same calibre of the Beatles. Of course, they all wrote some major gems solo too.
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As much as I enjoyed the Beatles, Pink Floyd got way further out there, right where I wanted to go. Genius.
The Beatles were a boyband. To be perfectly honest with you Doug, I don't even begin to comprehend how anyone could have the guts, lack of brain-cells or personality to compare those hacks who sang about yellow submarines to the legends who created The Wall.
@@00Discourse00 lol, tell me you're ignorant without telling me you're ignorant
@@littlemissmello If you were offended by my comment, I'm actually really sorry that you mistook me for someone who would give even a slight moment to consider the opinions of a person that would falsely attribute A: a band as a valid replacement for a personality and B: the collective innovations and achievements of generations of artists to the boy-band that wrote the song, nay, the masterpiece "I want to hold your hand" truly, a veritable bounty of thoughts and ideas to contemplate and explore, I haven't a clue how you have even a moment to spare to Laugh Out Loud, let alone write such a comment for someone like me, who doesn't value it even slightly. Have a wonderful day, Molly or whatever your username was.
@@00Discourse00 well that's all a bit much, don't you think? hahaha, lots of opinions there. Both about me and the band you're dragging. I don't recall saying they single handedly did anything but pretending their musical impact stopped with I Want To Hold Your Hand is somewhat disingenuous.
Furthermore, I'll refer you to my previous comment.
Have a nice weekend!
@@00Discourse00 Very dishonest comment, I could say to you I find ridiculous that people compare the band who made Seamus and Small Species... to the band who made Abbey Road. Quit the bullshit and assume you know jack shit about The Beatles. And I tell you this as a huge Floyd fan, check my profile picture for evidence of this
I think he was disappointed, because John's nose was no where not in the same league😂 DPA, RAM IT!
From one day to the next we can all be very different in terms of our personalities 🤷
Anyone know the name of the instrumental that plays 00:25 onwards?
Does anybody really care what Roger Water thinks about John Lennon?
Yes, many (obviously)
If folks don't get why a comprehensive educated northerner might feel ill-at-ease around a Cambridge grammar school educated southerner then they need to do a lot more research into UK class politics and the north/south divide.
Two of the most important musicians of the 20th Century in the same control room. WOW!
If roger waters actually said all of that, why didn’t you just show him saying all of that instead of narrating it
Waters who ??
This robot sounds almost human.
I didn't know about Pink Floyd until the spring of 1973 when everyone was talking about Dark Side Of The Moon, which is the 4th best selling album of all time, behind Michael Jackson's _Thriller_ AC/DCs _Back In Black_ and Meatloafs _Bat Out Of Hell._
The irony is TDSOTM is not a very good album but the sound engineering is superb. Wish You Were Here is 20 x better and more innovative.
@@eugenedevere7687 That's a valid comment. The best thing about Dark Side is the sound quality but it's not as consistently good as Wish You Were Here. I really don't like the alarm bells on Dark Side. That can be a bit annoying to you neighbors in an apartment building.
@@eugenedevere7687 "Not a very good album" lmao
I always wondered who was buying meatloaf albums cuz I don't know one person that listens to them
Roger was wondering who the hell is this Billy guy? Where is Paul/
What;s incredible is that PATGOD is actually better then Pepper
I think not.
I like both Pepper and Piper, but I remember from my school days that the 'cool kids' preferred Piper.
Roger Waters looks far better as an older man than he did in the 60s and 70s
he looks decidedly more Richard Gere-ish.
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I think it was Ray Davies who described McCartney and Lennon this way:
“McCartney was one of the most competitive people I ever met! Lennon wasn’t competitive at all. He just thought everyone else was shit.”
I love Pink Floyd, but they were nobodies in '67 and it's not like the most popular band on the planet can share tea with every up and coming band. Waters isn't exactly a amiable person; I do respect his self-awareness in admitting he has some responsibility for the disappointing encounter.
If you want to keep admiring your heroes, best to keep them at a distance and don't look too deeply.
I’m sure there were a lot more people disappointed by meeting waters than Lennon honestly
Indeed! I was thinking how disappointed Lennon must have been meeting waters but then realizing that he probably had no expectations to be met.
@@johnmcbarron7282 Leonard Nimoy met Roger Waters?
@@MarkMikelVideos Thank you auto correct
Despite Waters' reputation as a control freak and egotistical dick, I've heard nothing but good things from fans who've met him. I always hear he's courteous, patient and has a sense of humour. Look up the video of someone asking him to sign Pulse.
I'd say all of Roger's ex wives could be added to that list of people.
Elvis also had a bad impression of John Lennon
From the moment they were number one, no one could enter the studio without an appointment. Then they invited friends but only on certain occasions and only they decided who. The problem here was that Norman Smith had stopped working with them so he was no longer welcome. It was an ill-advised decision on Smith's part to show up as it created a climate of tension as Waters says at the end.
Storm in a teacup. The Beatles were in the middle of a recording session Lennon would have too much on his mind to be meeting people. If they met in a restaurant, they'd probably have had an interesting conversation.
I do believe that Paul, George & Ringo all worked with Gilmour at one time or another but none ever worked with Waters. Think that says a lot..
Jeff Beck did though. I think that says a lot.
Excellent point!
@@Cincinnatus1869 So did Eric Clapton, who also had close ties to the Beatles and played on a track. Never many degrees of separation, even if a collab didn't directly happen.
@@Cincinnatus1869 Are you really comparing the songwriting talent/fame of Paul to someone like Jeff Beck who couldn't sing or write lyrics? ya ..ok.
Also, are you aware that Paul rescinded Jeff's invitation to play on Paul's Rockestra all-star jam because Jeff wouldn't shut his mouth when Paul told him what to play.
Now Beck can never say he played with a BEATLE!
@@lornestein7248 I'm comparing them in any way.
To expect our hero's to always be amicable and pleasant is not realistic, however I think Roger Waters (like John Lennon) is using his fame for the public enlightenment of us all especially for the abused and downtrodden I love his music and the fact he lends meaning to his words YOU ARE GREAT ROGER DONT STOP
Don't like his anti Israel stance. We are gonna need Israel when world War three gets underway.
Muy buen aporte y la verdad no sabía que cuando Pink Floyd estaba grabando junto a Syd Barret el disco "The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn", y The Beatles, grabando "sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band". Si diré mi comentario muy personal y honesto. Pink Floyd nadie puede negar su excelente calidad musical, acá estaban prácticamente debutando con su disco, pero The Beatles estaba grabando lo que es considerado el disco del siglo. Muchos han comentado de Jhon Lennon, que no siempre cayó bien, y de esto y lo otro... pero hay que dejar bien claro, que The Beatles, esta claramente por sobre Pink Floyd. the Beatles desde el año 1962 revolucionaron toda la música a nivel planetario y para siempre. Pink Floyd fueron influenciados por sus pares británicos. The Beatles no por nada y a la fecha, definitivamente NO EXISTE nada comparable a ellos musicalmente hablando. Los 4 chicos de Liverpool, marcaron, marcan y seguirán marcando un estilo que de no ser por ellos, simplemente no hubieran existido Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Queen, etc. The Beatles algo así como Jesús, las otras bandas discípulos... Obviamente sin ofender, pero es la realidad guste a quien guste. Bye and good luck !!!
Nunca mejor dicho.
Lennon would of loved to wrote animals
Let's call a spade a spade here folks, lennon and McCartney wrote over 600 songs but DSOTM WYWH animals and the wall were masterpieces not to mention amused to death..my opinion if that was a floyd album it would of been the best
'if that was a Floyd album it would have been the best'. I agree 100%. I believe the same applies to all Roger's solo work. The Roger haters who say it's all crap are the same people who'd be calling it brilliant if it was released by the Floyd as was.
@craigherriot4026 agree 100% pros and cons is an absolute masterpiece, I love that album!!
But yeah amused to death never got the recognition it deserved, I wish it did, such a beautiful album
Crazy to think he wrote that album in 1992 and it was so far ahead of its time everything he wrote about is happening now 30 years later...wild!!
I'm going to see DSOTM redux Monday in London, I can't wait 🤗
I met Jason Bonham back in 1990? on his first US tour, bumped into his entire band in an outdoor men's room (Baity's W-S, NC). he was very nice, shook my hand. And also met Joe Strummer & Paul Simenon(another accident) outside of Carmichael Auditorium in Chapel-Hill, NC (UNC-CH campus). Their bus pulled up in front and they walked in(no security) for a soundcheck, very humble guys, great show that night.
@@BTS4990 wow, David Essex was huge, not familiar with Glen Michael...
@@earlbrackett6508 was George Micheal in there too ?
Roger Waters would be disappointed if he met himself, that's the type of dude he is.
I think Roger was disappointed when he met everyone lol
Other way round I think
@@realtruth4804 most likely true. I can't lie I think Roger might be a bit of a jerk .
I wonder how disappointing Waters can be.
The Beatles and John Lennon were quite competitive about being considered number 1... it is one of the things that drove them... and in any event, they were quite busy making a masterpiece
At that point Floyd had been playing at The UFO club quite a bit, and the Beatles had seen them, but I doubt the Beatles even considered Floyd to be in the running for number 1. They likely saw them as an oddity.
@@mikeemmons4062 at that time (from what I’ve heard ) the Beatles were more concerned with The Beach Boys and the Stones.
@@markalexander4884 Especially the Beach Boys. Brian Wilson was really pushing the music, and The Wrecking Crew were some of the best players in the world.
@@markalexander4884 The Beatles were never concerned with the Stones. And why should they?
@@markalexander4884 McCartney felt a bit competetiive with Wilson, but the Beatles and Stones were friends
Exactly turned out to be true, they were just another group
Little did John Lennon know at the time but Syd Barrett would turn be the famed psychedelic genius and Roger Waters would write an album (Dark Side Of The Moon) that would eclipse any of the Beatles albums.
Well, I think Roger is disappointed with everyone he meets. Lol...
The Beatles were at that time already schooled performers and a huge success. Pink Floyd sure were progressive and artsy, the Beatles could not guess how interesting they were.
Little did the 4 motherf*ckers know that the Pink Floyd were out of this world, unlike the Bugs...o dear, the Beetles. Lol
The beatles were boring dudes who wrote cutesy songs. Floyd is cerebral music with substance.
@@rabidgoon You're on crack. Every Pink Floyd song sounds the same. Space sounding synthesizer here, lyrics referencing a wall there and there you have the basic blueprints to a Pink Floyd song.There's no two same sounding Beatles songs. From Within You, Without you, to Happiness Is A Warm Gun, to All You Need Is Love, to I Am The Walrus. You get a variety of melodies, tempos, lyrics, song structures and instruments. Besides everything Pink Floyd did the beatles did first and better.
@@rabidgoon If you think The Beatles only did cutesy songs then you haven't listened to their music after 1965 enough. Look up A Day in the Life for an example. I've never heard another song anything like it.
@@CJA-jf8db lol, Do you think their later material is underground and hard to access? I’ve heard everything they’ve done. Including their later attempts at being interesting.
Which one's Pink?
Personalities don’t matter. Bruised egos don’t matter. What matters is that Waters is carrying on Lennon’s legacy of using his fame and considerable popular influence to call attention to the blight of war and imperialism. His music and lyrics, like John’s, speak to our common humanity and ability to overcome hatred and division. That’s all that matters. ✌️ ❤️
Only hes a shill for many of the people who are behind all the madness and he doesn't even realize
@@fredstriker2042 From what I have heard of his opinions he doesn't seem to support American foreign policy.
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@@keirbateman267 I stand corrected, he has been waking up of late and actually embarrassed American media the other day calling out their hypocrisy. If everyone would realize the left right narrative is a game they have used against us, you can THEN see right through their manipulation and propaganda
@@keirbateman267 But he does support Russia's and China's foreign policy. Hmmmm!! I wonder what his political leaning is!
Meanwhile, David has only had nice things to say about the members of the Beatles.
David also said his wife writes some of the recent PF songs. she's more yoko than yoko ono.
@@davedoogan6650 what an uninformed and sexist take. Wife leave ya, buddy?
Waters seems to have snide comments about a lot of people, envy is not a good trait in a person.